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Trump about to turn shit to 11

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>>135419137
YASSSS
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>>135419137

>More childish threats that he cannot back up
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>>135419319
you make $75 a week working for pedophiles.

enjoy.
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>>135419137
Commie bailouts should end anyway.
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>>135419319
"Well the time it is coming for them to get a message of their own, Donald Trump is the ultimate punishment and WE ARE HIS FUCKING EXICUTIONERS, I think it's quite conservitave to say that Tens of Thousands of Men are anxisouly awaiting the words to fall out of the right persons mouth telling us the wait is over, and we can fufill our purpose in life by competing to see who can kill the most communist. We are not weak or gentle or unaware of what is being done to us, we are the same ruthless monsters who mastered the art of warfare before your favorite demographic discovered the wheel, but neither are we the dim-wittied communist revolutionaries or the Islamic Jihadist you fight over today. We are a diciplined, calculating menace waiting for the time to strike. Luckily for us who are anxious for the chance it cannot be far off. We have seen Terrorism, Race Riots, False Flags and now shots fired, we not going to sit here and watch you topple an elected President waiting to see what Democrats prefer to Democracy. We will smash, stab, shoot and bomb you in a manner that will make the Islamic State look civilised by comparison. We slaughter your males, rape your women and leave your children in the company of the pedophilies you've set free upon our streets. If anyone is going to impose an un-elected Government on the continent of North America it's gona be us and the only thing we're going to be more liberal with is the fucking death penalty.
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>>135419319
(((You)))
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>>135419137
>the left has accepted that Obamacare is imperfect and want to suggest a ton of ideas
>but republicans, who have no decent plan that could replace obamacare, keep obstructing any kind of possible remedy and fix and instead stick to "repeal and replace"

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/06/how-democrats-would-fix-obamacare/530376/

Why doesn't Trump just stand down and let debates take their natural course?
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>>135419319
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>>135419483
the time for waiting around is over. suck a dick sharia
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He tried playing nice but they wouldn't have it. They left him no choice.

He will crash Obamacare
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>>135419319
Why are people like you so fuckin stupid? Are you going to be willing to lose 25%-30% of your paycheck for free stitches?

FUCKING REEEEETARD.
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>>135419481
(((Trump)))
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>>135419319
You don't seem to understand that Trump can stop enforcing the Obamacare tax penalty with a simple call to the IRS. No votes needed. No congress needed.
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>>135419137
neat
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>>135419439
>>135419445
>>135419481
>>135419595
>>135419681


Yeah, nobody could possibly be critical of Trump unless they're working for liberals right? The absolute fuckin' state of /pol/ these days lol. Why don't you go to reddit if you want to stick your tongues all the way up Donalds ass?
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PAY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoTQ3aOEz54
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>>135419714
speaking of the IRS, why hasn't the director been removed?
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>>135419137
This is bad news... for Communists.
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>>135419137
>mfw Trump takes away McCain's free healthcare, leaving him to die of cancer
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>>135419137
Wew

This guy just keeps getting better
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>>135419137
Any fellow leafs laughing endlessly at all this healthcare mess the yanks are in?
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>>135419445
1433 my dude
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>>135419843
You're being retarded though.
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>>135419843
Bro anyone who is a liberal on /pol/ is mentally incapable of being a part of society at this point
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>>135419624
The Dems want to fix situations EXACTLY what you Trumpfags keep complaining about (high prescription drug costs, no competition, etc), yet you REFUSE to back down and keep making this a "us vs them" situation.

You want a war when there's no need to. That is why Trumpcucks are the cancer in American politics.
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>>135419843
>Yeah, nobody could possibly be critical of Trump unless they're working for liberals right? The absolute fuckin' state of /pol/ these days lol.

You have a kind of sick desperation in your laugh.
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>>135419319
Says the increasingly nervous man for the 9000th time this year.
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>>135419973
Do you understand the political parties don't matter.

TRUMP IS GOING TO PUT IN HIS PLAN

There is a uniparty in DC controleld by (((them))) that's it. Shut the fuck up you kike smoking piece of shit. I swear ur libkike reasoning gets worse and worse every day.
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>>135419445
So many Commies must die. Sometimes I fear there are simply not enough bullets on this world to complete the task ahead.
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>>135419973
You democrats are the cancer. You won't rest until America is a socialist shithole. The time for talk is over, only your total annihilation will save America.
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>>135419973
Unhide ur flag kike
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>>135419445
Keep dreaming lardass

Corporations biggest benefactor of the welfare state, and we have a corrupted hack born on 3rd claiming he hit a triple, attempting to set his corporations to profit above all else. He gives 2fucks about America.
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Its totally not a rip-off
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>>135420031

>You have a kind of sick desperation in your laugh.

Ladies and gentleman, I give you the man who can ascertain tone and state of mind from a single 'lol' on /pol/
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>>135419973
Is this bait? I admit the repubs keep fucking us on healthcare. But dems keep shoving obamacare down our throats with rates going sky high... I'm not sure why you think the dems are on the working man's side.
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>>135420131
except for Trump doesn't have a health care plan, knows nothing about health care, and continually confuses the concepts of life insurance and health insurance
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>>135419917
but we are STILL IN CANADA.

CANADA.

CANADA FOR FUCKS SAKEARRAFGHFARFHGRFGH
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>>135420278
His health care plan is a COMPLETElY FREE MARKET HEALTH CARE PLAN.

ITS NEVER BEEN TRIED BEFORE FUCKING KIKE.
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>>135420308
much better then bugerland
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>>135420220
>But dems keep shoving obamacare down our throats
No they're not, they want to fix Obamacare and make it efficient and helpful to all.

The problem with Repubs is that they want it out because is signifies Obama's legacy. That's literally the only reason why you Trumpcucks are so triggered.
Of course the Dems, who fought for this for decades, wouldn't give it up without a fight. They're already near the plateau, only thing missing are fixes to the system, and you expect them to jump off?
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>>135419843
>im not a shill guys, i just look and sound completely indistinguishable from one while posting on a board literally engulfed 24/7 by actual, professional shills literally receiving paychecks from soros operatives for shitposting here

If youre not getting paid, that just means youre even more of an idiot
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>>135420496
no it isn't we have worse stabbing crime, worse heroin crisis, a worse AIDS epidemic among whites, no gun rights and total government censorship

everything here is a carbon copy of some awful US consumer brand or literally a US consumer brand

with a shitty socialized failing economy HOW IS THAT BETTER WE NEED TO KILL TRUDEAU
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>>135420514
YOU GUYS KNOW WHY DEMS WANT KIKECARE?!?!?!?!?!?!?

ITS PART OF ALINSKIS PLAN.

Any person advocating for Obamacare is now officially committing treason by posting on this thread.
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>>135419137
hit them in the wallet. its the only thing they fucking understand
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>>135419137
seriously, the GOP establishment was trying to destroy trump with this shitty healthcare bill. it was a poison pill.

we cannot go back to the status quo ante before obamacare, and we cannot stay in the current implosion.

what Trump should do is to push for a single payer/medicare for all solution, which will give him credibility for other causes like the wall, infrastructure etc.
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>>135420633
>i just look and sound completely indistinguishable from one while posting on a board literally engulfed 24/7 by actual, professional shills

Except that isn't true man, you and some others have just decided that there's no such thing as real criticism of Trump among people on /pol/, and that anyone being critical must in fact be a paid troll.

If that's how you feel, then I can completely understand how you see shills in every shadow and behind every corner.
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>>135420747
This
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>>135420514
"if you like your doctor you can keep them! for free!" t. obama

hahaha yeah I guess that does make me feel a little better
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>>135420809
fuck you. you're committing treason. Fuck off rules for radicals share blue shill kike
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>>135420844
leave pol then. you're obviously too stupid to be here if you can't see you're advocating for fucking traitors. suck a dick or shut ur mouth.
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>>135420844
>Trump is childish cause I don't like him
real criticism right there. It's sad that pol doesn't respect your genius and sharp insight
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>>135421017

No faggot, I'm not going anywhere just because your faggoty snowflake ass can't handle the fact that not everyone is in love with Trump.
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>>135419483
>democrats suggest a ton of ideas
Such as?
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>>135421102

I said his threat was childish, like many past threats (Like the comey tapes).
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>>135421136
Read the article dumbass. Trumpcucks are THIS stupid.
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>>135421155
>like the Comey tapes
You mean his threat that literally caused the deep state to have a meltdown? A threat which Comey admitted under oath had kept him awake at night?
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>>135421106
>>135421225

You guys aren't very good at saying anything with any modicum of relevancy.

WE WILL NOT SURRENDER TO THE FALSE SONG OF KIKERY

fuck off with this Saul Alinski single payer nonsense.
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>>135419319
He easily can, just by ending the Obama admin's policies of illegally funneling billions to insurers to help defray the costs of Obamacare.
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>>135420747
I'm not advocating for Obamacare, only pointing out Trump knows nothing about health care, yet I get attacked.
There's a reason why Trump is doing rallies and talking about MS-13 and other shit while this whole health care debacle is going down. It's because he can't add anything to the conversation. If he was really trying to end it, he wouldn't just be calling out Republicans and telling them "you have to get this done." He would be the one actually helping getting it done.
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More like Donald KEK hahaha fuck you stupid faggots
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>>135421155
You mean the threat that got Comey to tell the truth under oath that Loretta Lynch leaned on him to not indict Hillary.
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Kind of funny that none of this effects insurance companies in NY because our state regulations already were ACA tier.
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>>135421342
The only thing you need to know about healthcare is that the government shouldnt be involved in it.
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>>135421225
>read the article
>public option is thier solution
Any real solutions?
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>>135421106
>your faggoty snowflake ass

Oh man, don't call us snowflakes for our elected-the-president-tier mainstream support of Trump.

That hurts our feelings and stops us from ever calling you delicate little snowflakes ever again.

Tell us more about how not banning racism and mean words is a feature of safe spaces, snowflake.
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>>135420633
this 100%
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>>135420739
>we have worse stabbing crime
yes but overall much lower murder rate
>a worse AIDS epidemic among whites
citation plz, also idgaf about fags with AIDS no matter what race, besides our average life expectancy is 4 years higher
>no gun rights and total government censorship
we actually have some gun rights and to claim we have total government censorship is just flat our proposterous, we are one of the freest countries in the world
>everything here is a carbon copy of some awful US consumer brand or literally a US consumer brand
idgaf about "brands" as long as I can get shit that I like and that works
>with a shitty socialized failing economy
citation needed again
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>>135421386
>read the article
No you didn't. Jesus Christ, these are the people who want obamacare out?
I thought /pol/ was full of smart people?
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>>135419137
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>>135419319
>le childish threats
wew lad yeah just a big ol goof nothin to worry bout keep thinkin that way yup
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>>135421410
>This is what trump cucks actually believe
pathetic!
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>>135421342
>>135421338
>>135421225
>>135421155

FUCK UUUUUUUUUUUUU
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>>135421385
That's fine, but then does FICA end?
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>>135419137
What an absolute moran. How did America ever elect this guy?
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>>135419638
With no survivors?
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>>135421718

>moran

Loooooooool
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>>135421545
Thier solution is public option and more bailouts.
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>Democrats will fix Obamacare
>by denying its faults
>or pumping more money into it
>or switching us to the single payer meme
You don't get my (/You), Demoshill
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>>135419843
>he does it for free
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>>135421574
Don't you mean
>pathetic!!!!!11!! I'm so unupset!!!! you're TRIGGERED, YOU ARE

These threads are pure gold
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>>135419137
>7 Years

WTF an we are counting on this retard to save the white race
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>>135419137
Don, please NO!
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what a terrible existence is must be to go on a board for over a year with no effect and spouting retardation.

Doesn't that hurt your soul?
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>>135420747
1. Obamacare
2. Shitted-up ecomony
3. Shitted-up national debt and budget
4. Countless attempts to rob 2A rights, false flags etc
5. Muh bennies (food stamps increased, section 8 vouchers, ruined home market with people turning more towards renting, universal basic income)
6. Common Core, admitted by the designers to destroy "whiteness" in education
7. Handing the keys to western civilization to islam while actively shitting on Christianity, the cornerstone of western civ.
8. D&C extreme - men vs women, whites vs blacks, gop vs dems, family members against each other etc.

Fucking shocking and scary how much and how far these agendas are ALREADY achieved, and how much progress Obammy made in 8 years. "Fundamental transformation of America", indeed.
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>>135420739
Not having 40 million niggers and 60 million spics makes us better...
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>>135421985
I meant 17 years

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2017/07/24/trump-adds-decade-obamacare/506673001/
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>>135419483
Idiot
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>>135420514
Uh yeah no. Democrats and their supporters defend and support that piece of shit. Maybe a handful want to fix it. But God forgive anyone say Obama ever made a mistake. He dindu nuffin.
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>>135419319
>literally Hitler
>childish
which is it?
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>>135419843

Here's the real skinny, you're either (you) farming, or you're a shill because all lefties on pol know the opinion isn't changing ever.

There are still lefties who enjoy pol, but I'd imagine they like the hooligan aspect of it.

So shill or bait. Which is it?
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>>135421106
>snowflake ass can't handle the fact that not everyone is in love with Trump.

do you have hundreds, or thousands of posts in /r/politics?
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>>135420286
fixed it for ya
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>>135421509
>we have worse stabbing crime
>yes
>a worse AIDS epidemic among whites
>b-but our average life expectancy is 4 years higher
>no gun rights and total government censorship
>we actually have some gun rights
>everything here is a carbon copy of some awful US consumer brand or literally a US consumer brand
>idgaf about "brands" as long as I can get shit that I like and that works
>with a shitty socialized failing economy
>s-so

Holy shit, is Canada actually that bad that the shill spent a wall of text on THIS defense?
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>>135420286
>>135422479
Fuck what is this quote from? Is it from watchmen
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>Bailouts
>members of Ccongress

Literally what?
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>>135422612
Yup.
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>>135419445
this. The day of the rope approaches. If 1% of Americans heeded the call we have a 3.3 million man army
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>>135419681
Only ppl Savin money are those who make 800k plus and even then it's 2%
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>>135422038
This bait is terrible no one is this retarded
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>>135421106
This is probably the most immature, childish post I've ever read on this site. Are you a redditor? How much TV do you watch?
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>>135422520
>Holy shit, is Canada actually that bad that the shill spent a wall of text on THIS defense?

yes
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I still don't get the concept of insurance companies. Instead of paying the cost of an operation, the money you pay to your insurance, and depending on the pre existing or risk factor you carry into your plan... you pay a monthly fee and they help you out when you have a medical expense.

So how the fuck do people who work for the insurance companies make money? Like high 30-50k salaries for lower level scum and six figures for the higher ups... where did that money come from? The gov? Or the increased insurance prices to pay for some douches sport car who works for the company.

You would think insurance would be more of a non profit than the fucking red cross.
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>>135420496

Kino photo.

Everyone is looking at someone else.
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>>135422852
If you don't get the concept of insurance companies you need to shut the fuck up about healthcare
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>>135422852
>I still don't get the concept of insurance companies

my dear sweet summer child.
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>>135422852
It's like the casino they know the odds and adjust accordingly.
Also they invest everyones premiums in the market
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>>135422935
I did shut the fuck up about healthcare by not mentioning it. Please elaborate on how insurance companies don't have us by the balls like the banks.

Y u mad bro holy shit.
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>>135419843
>go to reddit


Talking of reddit, you need to go back there.
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>>135420514
If they wanted to fix ACA they'd try working with Republicans to do so. But not a single one of them will ever admit that it needs to be fixed.
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>>135422852
Insurance is a reverse lottery. You buy a ticket so you don't have to pay out the jackpot if you "win".
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>>135423066
because liberalism is a mental illness
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>>135422974
So if than insurance clientele are living longer and knowing it's costly to keep old people living longer, they raise the premiums for everyone even the 25 year old who signed up 3 years ago? Like if I don't smoke or drink or no cancer in the family and I've been a client for 10 years will my rates go up because people start living longer or more people under my insurance companies start getting fat or diabetes?
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>>135419137
>Bailouts for members of congress

what did he mean by this?
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>>135419638
Trump was too generous to both parties trying to make it work. Now we're moving on, and by the time we can come back to it, it's going to be an even bigger dumpster fire.
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Trump said he would repeal and replace on day 1. Why didn't he do that? Why overpromise and underdeliver?
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>>135423316
I'm not a liberal, I just never invested time into learning more about insurance.

>>135423296
Thank you
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>>135423166
Completely untrue.
Republicans don't want to fix it and Democrats admit it needs to be fixed.
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>>135423450
WE CAN'T LET HIM GET HIS MITTS ON THE NEW CLEAR CHODES
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>>135423500
>I'm not a liberal
Why are you using the Democrat flag?
I'm the only one in this thread being called a liberal and I'm not.
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>>135419137
fuck that shit, first force obamacare on all the politicians, the ones who exempted themselves from such a great plan they forced on us. THEN fuck with other shit like bailouts or repeal
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>>135423450
Listen retard....Trump can't do shit till the deep state is gone. The rest of 2017 will be draining the swamp.
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>>135423632
I was trolling an earlier thread, my apologies.
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Going to have to ban insurance...

Insurance is a kike scam. Makes healthcare unaffordable. The only reason healthcare providers can charge such ridiculous high prices is because insurance companies can afford to pay it. Without insurance, healthcare providers would have.to lower prices to affordable levels or go out of business.
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>>135423321
Actuaries take all the info you give them, put you into a risk pool of similar people, then calculate the average payout to people in your risk pool. They then charge premiums that cover this average payout plus whatever margin they are trying to get. If the expected payout changes, they will change your premiums. This is why having insurance cover shit like birth control, tampons, and yearly checkups is so fucking stupid. Why pay that extra margin for something you know is going to happen. It's like buying a losing lottery ticket from the day before.
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>>135423450
he did the same thing people running for political office always do, promise big and fall short
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>>135419137

Context? What are these bailouts he's talking about?
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>>135419481
>Democrats have a ton of ideas
>Republicans keep obstructing

When you lose an election you don't get to make the rules anymore.
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>>135423823
Says the kike shill hiding their flag
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>>135423874
Under obamacare if insurance companies lose money on obamacare plans the government hands them a bunch of money.
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>>135423321
Yes, higher costs are distributed to the entire group.
There are certain discounts if you get a gym membership, don't smoke, but most people buy group insurance through employers so it would be a company program.
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>>135423321
That's how it's working under ACA. Beforehand, if you went to purchase individual insurance, you'd be insured based on the cost of insuring people just like you, much as auto insurance. Group rates for companies worked differently, as they'd look at the company's industry, average age of workers, number and age of family members, claim history, and so on. It's why back in the day, I could buy individual insurance that cost less than my corporate plan.
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>obamacare gives healthcare to people
thats not how it works or ever worked
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Drumpf is a powerless lame duck shit fucking president lmao he's topping off Dubya in the WORST president of all time in less than 6 months lmao
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>>135423730
>pay 175 a month in insurance
>healthy 25 year old didn't smoke or drink and no cancer or heart problems in family
>2100 a year in insurance bills
>get staph infection once and besides my yearly physical I get it treated and over the counter medicine was suggested by the doctor.
>$350 visit including the physical earlier
>$2100 vs $350
>never see a dime of my money.
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>Bailouts for members of congress
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>>135424046
Oh. Thanks anon!
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>>135419917
Yeah im laughing as my moms lifesaving surgery just got bumped because shes not important enough
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>>135419917
Its an endless shit show!!!
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>>135423534
>Democrats admit it needs to be fixed.
Agree with you on the former half of the statement.
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>>135424080
Is individual insurance the same as single payer or whatever it's called?
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>>135424249
Shitty Schumer even said it the other night in front on the Senate
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>>135419843
There's no way you could be a liberal here unless it's your first day or a paid shill. The amount of raw truth and information found here is irrefutable.
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>>135424318
Single payer would make the government the only "Payer" ie medicaid for all and they ccould theoretically negotiate lower costs
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>>135424109
>hasn't started a war
>is doing something about the wetback invasion
I don't even care about the rest desu, repealing Obamacare will happen eventually.
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>>135420496
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>>135424503
>lower taxes please!
The sellout lawyers we ccall politicians better not ruin it.
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>>135423889
says babby who witnessed their first elction cycle. tell me why we're still in the ME kiddo.
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>>135424429
Iam a liberal and I've been coming to /pol/ since the 2012 election for bantz and to remind Conservashit voters that they vote against their interests
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>>135424475
I see. Thanks!
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>>135423730
What profits?
In fact, UnitedHealth announced record-breaking profits in 2015, followed by an even better year this year. In July 2016, UnitedHealth celebrated revenues that quarter totalling $46.5 billion, an increase of $10 billion since the same time last year. And company filings show that UnitedHealth’s CEO Stephen J. Hemsley made over $20 million in 2015. To be fair, that is a pay cut. The previous year, in 2014, Hemsley took home $66 million in compensation.
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>>135419843
>critial
>using name calling as a argument
son, get off the internet and sit in a sandbox
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>>135424503

Not when Dems take back congress in 2018
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About every Western European healthcare system:
>Universal
>~11% of GDP spending
>Everybody covered
>Life expectancy: ~82 years

America:
>Not universal
>~18% of GDP spending
>~90% of people covered
>Life expectancy: ~78 years

Why don't you guys just copy one of the Western European healthcare systems? Better results for less money.
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>>135424624
Because Trump isn't in full control of the governmnet till the deep state is out.

Either you have downs syndrome or you're a shill....pick one.
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>>135422656
those fuckers get paid shitloads to sit around and argue, then not read anything
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>>135424661
>To be fair, that is a pay cut.
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>>135424912
>Because Trump isn't in full control of the governmnet
Do you even understand how our federal gov works?
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>>135424629
Bantz are an entirely different reason. But conservatives aren't a single demographics. You're thinking specifically about the trailer park nigger-tier trash.
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>>135420146
Thats why you don't use bullets, but ovens
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>>135424843
Factor in obesity rates and drug addiction and you'll see why it doesn't work here.
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>>135424912
nigger Trump is part of the fucking deep state, stop fucking making excuses, every fucking time "HURR TRUMP NOT IN CONTROL CANDUNUFFIN" Fuckin weak, we're still over there because the same fucking puppet masters are in control. Is AIPACrightfully registered as a foreign agent yet? Oh yeah, last person that tried that got domed.
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>>135424822
I don't think they have the power
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inb4 nothing happens
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>>135425136
Daaamn you sound rattled.

Sorry you either work for pedophiles or you are a pedophile.


Kill yourself.
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>>135425008
I don't think he ccan cut their pay, although that would be funny
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>>135419137
Why does Trump want to pass some shitty healthcare bill so badly, when Obamacare has been complete poison for the Democrats, and passing new healthcare would make the GOP the bearers of that poison and give the Dems tons of ammo against them in the midterms. Is he bluffing?
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>>135424843
So, in the US, it's still very segregated. If you have a good job, your health might only be 6%. So why would you pay 11% so some nigger can have his too?
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"Based on corporate financial filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, Herman did research on 113 heads of 70 of the largest U.S. health care companies in the last seven years. Cumulatively, he says, these CEOs have earned $9.8 billion since the ACA was first enacted."

But, but it's R&D costs

" The top earner was John Martin, the former CEO of the pharmaceutical company Gilead Sciences, who took home nearly $900 million, Herman says. Gilead makes, among other things, medicines to treat HIV and AIDS, as well as two leading drugs to treat hepatitis C."
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>>135424661
I know you have to pay execs shitloads to keep them from leaving, but goddamn that's a disgusting amount of money
reminds me of the fucker who runs collegeboard
fucking nonprofit paying the top man millions
nonprofits are all scams
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>>135425248
Obamacare is imploding. Obama was siphoning PRIVATE PEOPLES MONEY from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to keep it going.

He cant pass tax reforms until you get rid of the fucking taxes associated with healthcare.
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>>135424822
They're more divided than the Republicunts. They have no unifying agenda except "fuck Blumpf," and they have a lot more to lose in the Senate this cycle. If they recaptured a majority I would expect in the House only. I meant that it will be repealed even if it doesn't happen under Trump because no one likes it.
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>>135425219
I'd love to see them make half of what they do currently
eat shit
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>>135425248
>Is he bluffing?
Maybe, who knows. He changes his tune about it every day from let it fail to we need to pass something.....and back......and forth.....
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>>135419638
IM IN CHARGE HERE
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>>135425398
show ur flag
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>>135419856
>mouse over "embed"
>do you hate fat people?
>yes
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>>135425210
I'm rattled because babbies like yourself don't fucking get it, you think that Trump was going to waltz in there and everything would be fine and dandy. You think he's doing something when the same shit happens still keeps happening, just repackaged so people can think it's different. Drink bleach.
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>>135425248
I was wondering the same thing. Whatever they come up with isn't going to make everyone happy. I think it has more to do with genuinely wanting to improve the state of the country. Rather than the usual re-election tactics.
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>>135425248
I think he is. It accomplished 3 things. (1) it looks like he tried to the people (2) failing to pass anything exposes the fraud in congress by not voting for a change (3) obamacare dies on its own.

Trump is usually ahead of people by a few steps. Wouldn't be out of the possibility that he wants it to implode. He can become a savior after it dies and probably easier to implement what he wants to when it does.
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>>135425473
Im sorry you wont have a job making $75 a week shilling after Trump takes out the fifth column.

Enjoy sleeping at night knowing you are defending pedophiles.
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>>135420188
Why are so many states different?
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>>135424367
Schumer wants bailouts, not fixes.
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>>135425451
I can't, it shows up as Unknown/fake Andorra. I'm American.
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>>135419137
They should just repeal and replace Congress when theyre at it.
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>>135425401
Their personal finances should be investigated.
Pelosi is worth about 50 mill and writes laws that help her husband real estate co.
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>>135420188

Why did Texas get off so lightly?

I see some states are actually getting a cheaper deal too. It would be interesting to see the correlation between the premium growth and the previous charge. Are all these percentages just forcing all the states into the same blanket cost?
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>>135419441
THIS. from the book " Creature From Jekyll Island " - The Name of the Game is BAILOUT !
also called ' Regulatory Capture ' , pay off both R and D ... profit.
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>>135425757
RECALL ELECTIONS
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>>135419483

Democrats obstruct, don't want to admit failure.

Fixing Obamacare would be political suicide for the GOP.

There is no way to justify the bait and switch.

The electorate wants Obamacare repealed.

If the electorate wants Obamacare then why did the Democrats lose the White House, House of Representatives, and the Senate?
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>>135425769
>Their personal finances should be investigated.
careful wishing for this....
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>>135425642
>hurr i don't agree with him he must be a shill working for pedos.

I would ask where I defended pedos, but I can tell your mental capacity isn't quite there.
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>>135422876

Good point mate. That's interesting. What's a Kino photo?

It's a fucking astonishing shot regardless, that should be Photo of the Year.
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>>135420278
He knows more about the free market and how it works then your welfare, commie ass will ever know. If you want "free healthcare" move to Cuba.
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>>135425858
If you defend liberal ideology you're defending pedophiles.
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>>135419137
they will assassinate him
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>>135419319
He actually has the power to force the Congress to use Obamacare, it's pretty much an executive order at this point that's allowing them to bypass ocare rules. Congress can of course pass the legislation to stop this, but that would be political suicide.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/07/28/how-trump-can-win-obamacare-fight-end-friends-and-cronies-exemption-for-congress.html

Don't know about bailouts for insurance companies though.
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>>135425920
ObamaCare = ACA = RomneyCare = an idea Right wing heritage foundation.

ObamaCare is litterally a law made up by conservatives as a response to universal healthcare.
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>>135425248

Obamacare forced people, particularly self employed, to buy insurance. It also taxed those who didn't and others to pay for it.

That's the crux.

GOP eliminates the penalty, the taxes, and the obligation to buy insurance then they're in business.
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>>135419445
>larping this hard
A FUCKING SNAKE
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>>135424843
>About every Western European healthcare system
Yeah, before the Islamic invasions, maybe.
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>>135425920
I'm not defending liberal idealogy you dumbfuck, I originally pointed out Trump did what all political hopefuls do-make big promises to get elected, then not deliver. Your continued fellating of Trump doesn't equal me defending liberals, all of American mainstream politics is corrupt to the core, liberals and conservatives perpetuating the same old horse and pony show.
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>>135426091
You saw John Mccain the other night?

Political ideology doesn't matter when theres 1 party in DC presented as a false duality.

Neocons and Liberals are all the same.
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>>135424222
Might force them to use obamacare
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>>135426172

>6 months into his Presidency

Nice try.
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>>135423874
insurance subsidy payments to keep premiums down. People in congress also want to set up reinsurance funds so local insurers can handle the 5 or 10 insanely expensive people in any given state that blow costs out of the water

>>135419137
Is trump going to force congress to pass single-payer? Is this his endgame?
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>>135419917
t. leaf still in the waiting line for the doctor
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Hope he makes an executive order to repeal Obama care and implement his own healthcare bill.
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>>135419483
well tough shit, maybe you shouldn't have passed the law with 0 republicans on board.
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>>135426322
No he's gonna let Obamacare collapse and stop giving the insurance companies money.
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>>135419445
>We slaughter your males, rape your women and leave your children in the company of the pedophilies you've set free upon our streets.
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>>135424155
The Obamacare tax fine is cheaper than the insurance in my area, so I just go uninsured. I really can't afford either, but the fine hurts less.
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I think it would be nice to have single payer for emergency life/death situations and everything else is personal responsibility.

Does anyone agree!?!
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>>135425909
What happens to FICA in this scenario?

If all welfare is taken away, what happens when terminally ill uninsured people are not refused medical attention? Who pays for it? In the long run, you as rates will keep increasing as this happens.
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>>135426091

- Mitt Romney is unpopular with populist right wing conservatives. He might as well be Hillary Clinton.

- GOP ran 3 successful election cycles on the repeal Obamacare train

- Obama administration's turning point was passing Obamacare.

- It's called OBAMACARE. Might as well be called DemocratHippieCaliforniaCare.

GOP can repeal Obamacare scott free because it's named after a Democrat black dude.
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>>135426373
democrats are great at asking for "bipartisanship hamananahamanahamahahna" when they are the minority, when they become the majority they pass laws which overhaul america's healthcare system without a single republican being on board
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>>135426282
again with the excuses, we can't all forgot about the special prosecutor being appointed immediately when in office, or day one repeal and replace. nice try trying to deflect with that weak ass bullshit. Here's another one "Obama would be stupid to get involved with Syria" turned to "Gotta bomb Syria cuz muh beautiful babies."
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>>135419445
cringe
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>>135426506
Trump got a ceasefire in Syria after 1 meeting with Putin.

Try harder kike shill
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>>135426497
this
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>>135421342
If you ever bothered to listen to him talk about his healthcare plan above your commie screeching, you would know he had the best plan, free market, across state lines, with tax free healthcare savings plans. But no, you have your tongue too far up the government's ass due to your gibsmedats off the backs of people who actually work, to fathom how free markets work. Also, the President can't change it or he would have. The only people who can are Congress, and they are too busy getting tongued by you to want to change anything because they like your subservience and your hand jobs. Just neck yourself.
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>>135425909

Drumpf is a senile piece of fucking shit trust fund baby
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>>135426506
Democrats in January: Russia REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
6 months later, still fucking nothing
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>>135426757

I think you're on the wrong forum bud. Go shill out on reddit, it's easier to convince the retards there.
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McBrain should have had to use Obamacare for his surgery.
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>>135419445
YESSSS SO MUCH THIS
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>>135421715
Lmao pic saved.
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>>135419904
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>>135420188
Based Indiana.
We didn't do Obama care and came up with our own plan and we are doing better than everybody else.
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>>135426506

He bombed an airfield with obsolete, dust gathering cruise missiles which the US will have to replace with new ones.

No one was killed. One bombing.

No other news reports about chemical weapons being used. War in Syria appears to be winding down.

Anti-Trumpers acting like he sent the Marines to invade Iran.
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>>135426578
but he still wasted taxpayer money and continues to do so floundering in the middle east. see you didn't bother refuting the special prosecutor or day one repeal and replace part.

try again brainlet.
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Insurance is gambling. Gambling is always the same. House always comes out on top, most players lose, a small few win. All gambling should be illegal . It is bad for society.
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>>135427153

How's the double mocha frappacinno ur drinking shilling at starbucks right now?

Tell me again why anything you say matters when you don't even know what you're talking about.

Kill yourself.
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>>135427037
He still wasted taxpayer money, whether or not he hurt anyone is irrelevant. Shit, would've rather have him hurt people if he's going to piss money away like that.
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>>135420514

You can't unbake and fix a shitty cake. It's got to be completely repeated and replaced with a deregulated free market.
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>>135426745
>he had the best plan
are you serious? "across state lines" and "HSAs" isn't a plan for universal coverage and cost savings, and that's why "repeal and replace" failed.

"Who knew healthcare could be so complicated?"
>your white messiah said this
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>>135426745
Can someone explain why insurance is not able to be sold across state lines?
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>>135420809
Fuck you and your single payer
credibility in whose eyes the fucking commie socialists trying to sneak it in
i hope they do go single payer and you get to watch your family die because they arent high priority and then you would turn around and blame trump because he gave in and gave the rat fuck commies single payer your full of shit and your flag fools no one
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>>135419843
Not a sane person no. Do the US taxpayers a favor, and remove yourself from the gene-pool.
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Obamacare became law of the Land when Obama won reelection in 2012. This is why Obamacare is repeal is fucking retarded Americans want improvements made on Obamacare not repeal it. Corporate bootlickers are the ones telling us to repeal
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>>135422713
>only poeple hamanha

OH MY FUCKING GOD

you fucking realize that these don't happen in a fucking vacuum. the cost of that is probably being offloaded to the middle tax either trough higher prices of goods or services or lower salaries or some other hidden way we can't see.
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>>135427253
sorry, I don't drink starbucks, i brew my own at home. How do you like it since you obviously go there enough to have that drink memorized? Why should anything you say matter when you keep deflecting and just calling me a shill? Guess i don't understand your brand of ((intelligence))
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>>135427413
also
>hurr durr it's only 2%

YES BECAUSE TAXES NEVER START OUT SMALL
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>>135427370
> unironically votes against his economic interests
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>>135427482
AND THEN BECOME BIG

not like there was this other tax that is like 30% now, but started as 2% only on millionaires that was meant to pay for the war.

FUCKING REEEEETARD
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>>135427472
Show your flag.
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>>135427286
That was what, 60 million dollars? The government spends more than that on contraceptives for robotic squirrels, daily.
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>>135419904
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>>135424843
It would work if we weren't full of shitskins
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HAPPENING STATUS: ITS
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>>135427572
that's the best you fucking got, I'm fucking laffin right now, whatever kid, I'll toss your brainlet ass a bone even though you didn't deserve it.
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>>135426468
>toothpaste anon points out that Obamacare is already the most right-wing possible universal coverage system
>"yeah but it's called OBAMAcare!"
if anything all the GOP whining and shouting is going to end us up with actual single payer or some other kind of seriously socialized system
>well repeal failed, we'd better try to make the best of our freedom-destroying socialized medicine system we're stuck with now
literally where this is going. This is the future you chose
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>>135422783
Except for you.
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>>135419319
Congrats on the (((You)))s faggot
heres another one
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>>135421862
CTR gets paid I thought. It's the Donald worshipers that are defending him online pro-bono.
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>>135427793
I'm laughing too
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>>135424843
Because MUH BIG GUBMINT

of course most of the people who say that are also in favor of mass surveillance and torture, so basically they're fucking scum who just want to oppress people for money

fucking Pinochet Republicans.
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>>135427611
and how much does the ME conflict siphon each year? How much do we give israel every year? Tomahwaks cost about 1 mil a piece, still a lot of fucking money, you have that lying around at home?
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>>135419319
Are you fuckng retarded? The President is giving monthly bailouts to the insurance companies to keep the exchanges going.

It is at his SOLE DISCRETION to continue to pay. He can simply stop paying and Obamacare will implode.

You're a fucking retard and deserve to be raped.
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>>135419917
The state of your health care is deplorable. Your housing market is crashing. You cant ill speak about religion of peace without citation and confinement. Your PM is a cum gargling faggot that licks Soros boot.

Keep throwing stones at glass houses, you piece of shit- your country is next.
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>>135427766
Oh shit. THIS
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>>135425256
>your health might only be 6%
that's not how it works, it all comes out of your paycheck before they even quote your salary, and there's no getting away from that.

Also corporate office drones tend to be the fattest of fat fucks
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>>135419137
Can Trump take away or suspend the legislative branches healthcare? Or tie it to whatever they end up giving the American people? This is the only way I see us getting a semi decent bill.
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>>135427943
Yeah I'm sure you are chuckster,
>a-a-anyone who deosn't agree with my line of thinking is s-s-shareblue s-shill

go warm yourself up some tendies kid, you've worked up quite an appetite.
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>>135428106
meant Chuckles*
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>>135424661
>UnitedHealth celebrated revenues that quarter totalling $46.5 billion, an increase of $10 billion since the same time last year.

To be fair, revinue numbers don't really tell us anything; we know premiums are going up.

What would be good is to know their total profit and the change in their profit margins.
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>>135428082

YES

>>135427766
>>135427943
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>>135428106
Sorry man, Trump wins again. Go fuck yourself.
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>>135425113
Yeah, it's not like the British are a bunch of fat alcoholics or anything... also what are you even talking about, we're more likely to control costs by intervening in these medical problems early rather than waiting for people to end up with diabetes or ODing in the ER
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>>135427954
THis. Conservashits cry about muh big gubmint but turn the other cheek when Repukelishits expand the police state under the guise of "law and order" and faggots like Jeff Sessions try to pull civil assets forfeiture
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ShareBlue-David Brock rolled over to save his own neck. Did he make any deals to save yours?
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>>135419319
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>>135427766
Checked!
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>>135422852
Think Ponzi scheme.
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>>135427410
Bullshit. 'Corporations' prefer a guaranteed check and a consumer who is forced to do business with them. ie, Obamacare. Otherwise they'd have to actually compete for business.

Insurance companies are the niggers of the business world.
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>>135428210
no he doesn't, try again sweetie, the only winning trump does is continuing to pull the wool over your eyes, while this country continues to hemorrhage national debt
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>>135427542
what the fuck are my economic interests
i see that stupid line from liberal shills on here all the fucking time you arent fooling anyone
i dont believe in having to subsidize someone who wont work with my tax dollars because of some commie bullshit theories that only work for the top tier shits who implemented it. if your running around trying to muddy the waters and claim that my economic interests are working for people who wont work then just tell me where you live and i will come and end your miserable leeching progressive life for you
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>>135428253
NHS is crashing
I was thinking more the scandanavian fish eating bike riding ones I see on brochures
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Face it..We gave the republicans a chance..We need a new mission and it's the primaries..We own this party by numbers..Look at the average republican in Congress and tell me they can rally the numbers needed to fend us off...I'm feeling it...
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>>135419137
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Reading as. BAILOUTS will continue as usual.
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>>135428339
Sweetie?

This isn't reddit. Condescending attitudes have no effect on a board when you spout nothing but idiocy.
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>>135428349
>what the fuck are my economic interests
>>135424843
that extra 6% of GDP is going from working people to rich hospital-owning kikes and drug companies
>>
True dat homie, u kno wha i sayin.
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>>135428576
it's a meme you dip, good God you are dense.
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>>135419319
>t.welfare Medicaid leech
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>>135428349
> unironically votes against his economic interests
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>>135428349
> unironically votes against his economic interests
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>>135424843
because the pharma companies and hospitals were already in bed with the government in the 70's. This is corporatism at its finest.
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>>135428664
Go on and fucking do something then, Dixie.
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>>135425712
because the ACA made it a healtchare exchange, the place you see the biggest leap have the fewest options if I recall(meaning the company can pumpfuck those wallets thanks to the mandatory nature of the ACA)
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>>135428901
Shut the fuck up Limey, pop on down to the neighbors house and shove a teabag up your ass.
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>>135428664

>it's a meme
>it's just a prank bro

BOY YOU REALLY DO HAVE A HARD TIME FITTING IN HERE.

You wonder why you can't subvert this board? You're literally too stupid to understand how to fit in.
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>>135427542
My economic interests are to be left the fuck alone. Insurance was fine before the ACA. They just couldn't leave it alone
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>>135428609
go fucking kill yourself you commie nigger lover
you dont know as much as you claim
>muh economic interests
saying that on an anon board means that you are a progressive scumbag shill
u know nothing about my beliefs but what i can see from yours is that i would plant an axe in every one of your families head before i killed you last commie faggots deserve to die and die horribly; just look at it as a streamlined version of single payer that you fucking commies are salivating at the mouth to get
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>>135424843
You realize that the NHS is failing, right? You realize German socialized medicine is failing, right? The higher the population, the more people on welfare, the more socialized medicine overdraws their taxpayer money pool. They begin to borrow from other govt department making them harder to sustain until they, too, fail, which will either result in overtaxed citizens, which will put them in debt and on welfare making it worse, and/or bankrupt the govt, and put them in crushing debt (greece).
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>>135424240
kek
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>>135419137
DRAIN THE SWAMP
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>>135429112
>hurr i fit in here like anybody else

If you don't understand sweetie posting you're not form around here. fuck off faggot.
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>>135419887
Sick burn>>135419904
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>>135428339
Yes. He really does. How does it feel waking up everyday with him in the whitehouse? You failed on every level
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>>135429278
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wait what

is he threatening McCain directly by getting rid of the shekels for his cancer treatment?

fucking genius
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>>135419843
>all the shills responding to you
/pol/ is no different from stormfront

if you don't want to suck donalds dick you clearly must be a retarded shill hurr
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>>135429379
Unfortunately MCBrain is worth about 100 mill
Selling your soul pays
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>>135429364
k thnx I love being in the ME to this day now!
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>>135424109
>lame duck
Hi shareblue hows it like being a wageslave for pedophiles
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>>135429507
How much adderall do you take to shill for hours on end?
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>>135429368
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>>135427766
>HAPPENING STATUS: ITS
punished trump, bois.
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>>135429625
It's ok Agent 47, be proud of ur extra chromosome. I'm sure David Brock is proud.
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>>135422038
almost like he listened to his trainer alinsky to a tee
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>>135429620
all of 'em man, ya got me!
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>>135429716
haha there it is again,
>look everyone i done inferred dis man a shill again!
>no one can not agree with and not be a shill!
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>>135429785
This is ur strategy. Point out the shills and call them out on their retardation.

The Gish Gallop (also known as proof by verbosity[1]) is the fallacious debate tactic of drowning your opponent in a flood of individually-weak arguments in order to prevent rebuttal of the whole argument collection without great effort. The Gish Gallop is a belt-fed version of the on the spot fallacy, as it's unreasonable for anyone to have a well-composed answer immediately available to every argument present in the Gallop. The Gish Gallop is named after creationist Duane Gish, who often abused it.
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>>135429162

I'll fuck your shit up Alt Reich fascist fuckface. Law abiding Americans are well equipped at extinguishing you rascist fascist fucks
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>>135427153
House Republicans call for second special counsel 2 days ago.

Congress and not passed how many new health care bills? 5 or 6 times now?
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The Gish Gallop (also known as proof by verbosity[1]) is the fallacious debate tactic of drowning your opponent in a flood of individually-weak arguments in order to prevent rebuttal of the whole argument collection without great effort. The Gish Gallop is a belt-fed version of the on the spot fallacy, as it's unreasonable for anyone to have a well-composed answer immediately available to every argument present in the Gallop. The Gish Gallop is named after creationist Duane Gish, who often abused it.

Although it takes a trivial amount of effort on the Galloper's part to make each individual point before skipping on to the next (especially if they cite from a pre-concocted list of Gallop arguments), a refutation of the same Gallop may likely take much longer and require significantly more effort (per the basic principle that it's always easier to make a mess than to clean it back up again).

The tedium inherent in untangling a Gish Gallop typically allows for very little "creative license" or vivid rhetoric (in deliberate contrast to the exciting point-dashing central to the Galloping), which in turn risks boring the audience or readers, further loosening the refuter's grip on the crowd.

This is especially true in that the Galloper need only win a single one out of all his component arguments in order to be able to cast doubt on the entire refutation attempt. For this reason, the refuter must achieve a 100% success ratio (with all the yawn-inducing elaboration that goes with such precision). Thus, Gish Galloping is frequently employed (with particularly devastating results) in timed debates. The same is true for any time- or character-limited debate medium, including Twitter and newspaper editorials.
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>>135421106
pathetic. kys faggot
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Examples of Gish Gallops are commonly found online, in crank "list" articles that claim to show "X hundred reasons for (or against) Y". At the highest levels of verbosity, with dozens upon dozens or even hundreds of minor arguments interlocking, each individual "reason" is — upon closer inspection — likely to consist of a few sentences at best.

Gish Gallops are almost always performed with numerous other logical fallacies baked in. The myriad component arguments constituting the Gallop may typically intersperse a few perfectly uncontroversial claims — the basic validity of which are intended to lend undue credence to the Gallop at large — with a devious hodgepodge of half-truths, outright lies, red herrings and straw men — which, if not rebutted as the fallacies they are, pile up into egregious problems for the refuter.

There may also be escape hatches or "gotcha" arguments present in the Gallop, which are — like the Gish Gallop itself — specifically designed to be brief to pose, yet take a long time to unravel and refute.

However, Gish Gallops aren't impossible to defeat — just tricky (not to say near-impossible for the unprepared). Upon closer inspection, many of the allegedly stand-alone component arguments may turn out to be nothing but thinly-veiled repetitions or simple rephrasings of the same basic points — which only makes the list taller, not more correct (hence; "proof by verbosity"). This essential flaw in the Gallop means that a skilled rebuttal of one component argument may in fact be a rebuttal to many.
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>>135429379
Why should McCain get special healthcare, just so he can live longer and sabotage Trump?

Mother fucker should have died while serving the US Navy.
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>>135427338
Repeal and replace failed because Congress didn't follow his plan, the demoshits want single payer and traitor, establishment republicans want him out of office, and won't go along with anything he proposes. Try to keep up instead of parroting msn talking points.
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>>135429868
nice copy and paste of some text that exist somewhere. just because you found it doesn't mean that everyone who doesn't think like you subscribes to that mode of thinking
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>when you threaten to end the subsidies that have kept premiums from exploding in a tweet but think the opposition will get blamed for it
Trump has to have autism, the campaign ad writes itself
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>>135419843
you just responded to a (((jared jew TD soros bot)))
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>>135430038
This is bullshit. I'll argue against your biggest point. Come at me with a million arguments. I would't care.
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First things first, I'm the Donald's biggest fan in the whole entire world. I have a signed autograph, a first edition Trump Steak (unopened!), and 4 bottles of Trump Vodka. Donald Trump is a great American, the greatest! That said, I think he's losing his magic touch lately. When your biggest supporters are a bunch of autistic middle-aged kissless virgins you have to admit you have a slight problem.
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>>135430220

Im on your side, I'm calling out the shills.
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>>135430255
Found the shill.
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>>135430290
I know, just trying to provide you with some insight. Scan their shit, look for the biggest argument and sodomize.
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>>135429975
I've lost count, all they're doing is arguing over trivial bullshit to create drama for political theater.
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>>135428172
That's the kicker - they don't have to disclose that.
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>>135428873
>>135428764

Shills are real
Should have never left being a normie. This timeline is crazy, at least we won with Trump and continued conservative waves.

Carry on, brothers.
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>>135430550
After this is over and Trump has saved mankind the shills are going to look back on this time and they will be so embarrased by their seditious ways they will pretend it never happened.

Karma never forgets though, and their souls will be eternally recycled into cockroaches
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>>135430373
So what you typed 3 times was 100% fake then. Thanks. Go back to being a good goy and watch some CNN.
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