What denomination of Christianity follows the Bible the closest?

Coptic

>>135418128
Oh yeah. Forgot about them. Most likely because they've been deliberately murdered while the msn looked the other way
I was going to say Baptists, Methodists, Church of Scotland
But Coptics is probably correct

>>135418102
Westboro Baptist Church

>>135418265
Aren't they actually Calvinists?

>>135418484
And Calvinists say that you need to use the Bible as the basis for all interpretations about the Bible and God. Thus, it's impossible to follow the Bible any more closely than to literally follow everything in the Bible without outside sources.

>>135418795
But they say that Jesus didn't die for everybody...

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The congregations supporting and supported by Jack t.Chick

>>135418980
No, they say not everyone is destined to be saved.

The difference being, they know that if God is all knowing and all powerful, then there must be a divine plan for everything, and everything is predestined. Which you will recall from your Bible, is what it says. God's plan, etc. Hell, open Revelations and you can read the exact number of people who get saved.

>>135418102
Protestantism.

where do the jehova's witnesses rank in this?

Christianity and Islam are just unauthorized sequels to Judaism.

Catholicism, because Catholics actually put the Bible together in 397 AD. We wouldn't put together and promote a holy text that directly contradicted our own teachings

>>135418102
One with a Christ centric view of salvation. So many most of them. Exception include mormons and jehovah witness which are openly proud of writing their own Bible or ignoring large portions of the New Testament.
>>135418128
Coptic and Eastern Orthodoxy meet my basic definition of Christ centric, but their church writings (think vatican) incorporates Eastern religion concepts like Nirvana and Karma and those little shrines you see in the far east are in everyones home. They were heavily influenced by heathen lands and invasions (like catholic/pagan similarities) and assimilation by buddhist/shinto/hindu, even much of their art (paintings etc) have chinese art styles with large bubble heads.

>>135419574
This. Christianity is about tolerance and Protestantism is the most tolerant branch.

>>135418102
None of them, Christianity is a dead religion. Maybe Christian Identity does.

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>>135418102
There are no denominations. Jesus never wanted "denominations". There is the one true holy catholic apostolic church, and then there are various offshoots/deviations from the truth.

>>135419417
That doesn't make any sense. If everything is predestined then how the hell does prayer work?

>Hey God, you uhh... know that thing you were always planning to do since the beginning of time? Well can you please uhh... do that exactly like you were going to do anyway?

>>135420255
This

>>135418102
Islam

>>135420191
Nah mate. It's about faith, and Protestantism is the only branch that doesn't make it about materialism too.

>>135420255
>One man acts as a conduit to god
Heretical desu.

>>135420195
Church numbers were at similar levels during he enlightenment, and it bounced back- just like it always does. Humanity always has and always will have a longing for a higher power.

>>135418102

a bible believing christian

>>135420358
That too, Orthodoxy is based on leaving money after every ceremonial.

>>135420279
Your prayer is predestined too then, it could be answered later, just saying.

How accurate is this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sj3TvlcVUzo

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>>135418102

Islam

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>>135419175

>>135420440
Implying that Jesus didn't establish a hierarchical structure among his apostles in order to set a precedent for the structure of the Catholic Church (which the apostles started, of course).

If Jesus wanted us to use written texts and nothing else, then he did a horrible job, as Jesus wrote practically nothing. Everything was passed orally, (tradition) which is why Catholics believe in both scripture and tradition.

And tradition, from the beginning, has established a Pope at the head of the Church, and a hierarchical system below him. And I do mean from the beginning, as shown by the writings of Saints from around 90-100 AD (St Iraneus, Clemente of Rome, Ignatius of Antioch, etc).

Christianity desyroyed the Roman Empire.

>>135420191
I can think of no Christian denomination that tolerates unrepentant sin.
>>135420255
A Christ centric Bible based faith is all that matters and therefore there are no denominations.

Why would you wanna follow the whole bible closely?

The OT is not the god of the NT

You wanna swallow the bait the pagans put in there hook, line and sinker?

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>>135420707
>Non-fat women playing D&D
Pssh, I wish

>>135420866
Church hierarchy doesn't make the higher ups closer to god. Church hierarchy is about spreading the faith and missioning.
Unless you're a heretic, then it's about money and power.

>>135418102
Messianic Judaism/Christian Identity

>>135421528
>Old testament written by pagans
>not jews

>>135420552
100% - adding to this with catholic requirements are unbiblical

>>135421616
No one ever said that it makes the higher ups any more important in Gods eyes. However, they do have certain abilities and responsibilities that laymen do not have, just as the apostles did over the other Christians they converted. It was established this way because Gods kingdom is a hierarchy, thusly his kingdom on earth would also be structured as a monarchy (among several other reasons).

>>135421088
No, it didn't. Overexpansion and immigration killed it. If Christianity killed Rome, then why did the Byzantine Empire, an Empire that practically became a Christian theocracy, last for another 1000 years and capture so much land, power, wealth, etc? Or all the other famed Christian European empires (Frankish, Portuguese, Spanish, British, Russian, etc.)?

>>135421768

Jews are Pagans.

Let me explain from my Gnostic Perspective.

The Jews stole the stories from the Hebrew bible which became the OT from the Sumerian Tablets.

The Sumerians worshiped a Pantheon of gods. You know them as the Anunnaki.

Enlil, Enki and their Father Anu.

Well the Jews choose one of them to be their Lord and they claimed he was their Highest god.

Then they said his son is their Messiah.

You have to understand that the Lord of the OT is the Demiurge.

We are talking about an Archon who claims to be God.

>>135420279
Not a calvanist, but you are not supposed to pray like that. Only the lords prayer in secrecy is asked for. As God knows your desires long before you ask for them. Calvanists believe in pre destination which is that everyone is either a member of the elect or a reprobate, and this has been all predetermined before you were born. This is all reached via Jesus' parables on salvation and Theology on the perspective of a lawyer; that being John Calvin.

>>135421528
The God who spoke to Abraham Moses and Noah is literally God. Just like Jesus is literally God in human form, same as the Holy Spirit since Pentecost that dwelleth in believers is literally God.

>>135422521
That means nothing matters at all. You are just the plaything of some deity.

>>135422579

No dude, he is not literally God. He is Literally Enlil and God is literally a word for a Lord.

You are confusing the gods with a little g with the God with a big G.

This is what the Pagans want you to do. Fall into their trap.

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Protestantism to answer your question.

But anyone knowing anything about Church history knows that just following the bible is wrong. But yes, Protestants follow the closest, this is not a good thing though.

>>135422579
>Jesus is literally God in human form

Jesus is the Son of the Creator of All that is.

But Yahshua is the Son of the Demiurge.

You need to figure out the difference fast.

>>135422510
Why did Jesus never mention the fact that the God all his followers were basically Satan then?

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>One Lord, one faith, one baptism.

There's only the Catholic Church, that Christ and His apostles created. Everything else is a Satanic lie.

>>135422579

Hey let me ask you one thing.

And if you dont have an answer then you need to rethink your position.

Ok here goes,

If the Lord of the Garden wanted to banish us from the Garden to keep us from the tree of Life because he was worried that we would gain long lives and have the same longevity as him. Then why would he be the one to send his 'son' here to show us Eternal Life.

At the Last Supper Jesus was trying to show us the Bread of Long Living and the Elixir of Life that would give us that Longevity.

This is why he was crucified.

Not some nonsense pagan idea that he died for our Sins. That comes right out of the OT and the Idea of Original Sin and the Fall of Man.

>>135422910

He did, he said that they were of their father the Devil.

But you have to know that the bible is heavily edited by pagans to make you believe their side of the story.

>>135418102
Protestants

p. sure Jesus didn't set out to create a pedophile ring.

>>135420866
What did Jesus say to his disciples when they debated who was the greatest amongst themselves?

How come not even the Pope has the authority given onto early Christians by Jesus to cast out devils and heal? >>135422677
God is all powerful. Don't confuse knowing what someone will do with that of choosing for them. Just because you predict the idiot will fall off the cliff doesn't mean that the idiot didn't choose to. Also, I am not a Calvanist because he based his theology on code of law; not the code of grace and that of Christ like Luther.

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>>135423212
Why don't Protestants celebrate Mass?

>>135419417

How can he be all powerful and all knowing at the same time?

How can he know everything and change wtv he wants?

If he knows everything then change is not something since he knows the outcome and it would simply be things as they should.

If he can change wtv he wants then he can abandon a cours of event, which he will end up not knowing about, for another cours of events. Meaning he prefers one cours over another. Implying imperfection of knowledge.

squaring-circles

>>135421528
Kek, the God of the Old testament is YHWH.
He is the God who gave the ten commandments to Moses, the same Commandments that Jesus preached.
Jesus Christ was a YHWH worshipper.

>>135423073
>>135422786
>>135422698
Your talmud is wrong schlomo

>>135423354
>celebrate Mass?
that's a funny way of spelling "scoping out which kids to rape that day"

we celebrate the Sabbath as a congregation, much truer to what Christ taught.

>>135423411

Nope, you just havent read enough Gnostic and Sumerian texts to see the Truth of who the Hebrew Lord is.

Your following the Demiurge as God.

Anyone cuck who is Catholic needs to only read this book: https://archive.org/details/Babylon-Mystery-Religion-Ralph-Woodrow

>>135423073
>If the Lord of the Garden wanted to banish us from the Garden to keep us from the tree of Life because he was worried that we would gain long lives and have the same longevity as him.

this doesnt really accurately portray the story at all.

>>135423141
But that wasn't because Moses and everyone else was worshipping satan, it was because the jews of the time of Jesus rejected him and they did not follow the teachings of the old testament god.

>>135423354
looks like idol worship, relics are not Biblical. While they may have cultural significance, God does not reside in them and touching them doesnt put you closer to God.

Catholicism is the bastardization of Christianity

>>135423411

Moses went up mount Sinai to talk to his Lord Enlil. There he got the tablets of destiny. They are the ME's that contained all the rules for civilization.

Your 10 commandments is a dumbed down children's version of the real story.

When Moses came down he saw that his people he saved from slavery in Egypt were worshiping a Golden Calf Idol.

You have to understand that was a Symbol of Marduk.

Marduk was the god of Egypt known as Ra. His name means the Solar Calf.

A golden calf idol is a representation of Marduk the Solar Calf of Utu.

He is the Son of Ea Enki.

He became the Adversary of the one you call Yahweh. If you dont believe me then go read the Book of Abramelin the Mage.

>>135418102
Buddhism

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>>135423519
I thought you guys were like the Early Christians though?

>The earliest surviving account of the celebration of the Eucharist or the Mass in Rome is that of Saint Justin Martyr (died c. 165), in chapter 67 of his First Apology.

>The descriptions of the Mass liturgy in Rome by Hippolytus (died c. 235) and Novatian (died c. 250) are similar to Justin's.

>>135423411
The New Testament contradicts you immediately schlomo.

>>135423212
Pedophilia is just as prevalent among Protestant ministers

>>135423527
Your talmud is wrong schlomo.

>>135423594
Then the LORD God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil; and now, he might stretch out his hand, and take also from the tree of life, and eat, and live forever”— therefore the LORD God sent him out from the garden of Eden, to cultivate the ground from which he was taken. So He drove the man out; and at the east of the garden of Eden He stationed the cherubim and the flaming sword which turned every direction to guard the way to the tree of life.

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>>135423762
>And God wrought by the hand of Paul more than common miracles. so that even napkins or aprons were brought from his body [and put] upon the sick, and the diseases left them, and the wicked spirits went out.

Looks like you don't read the Bible, Prot-boy.

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>>135424070

You are a Saturn worshiping Cuck.

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Why don't Protestants call the Virgin Mary blessed?

>>135423762
"Relics aren't biblical"

What on earth are the statues of cherubim that God COMMANDS the Jews to construct, statues/relics that are to be used in religious ceremonies.

Worshipping statues (golden calf) is my the same as using beautiful things in the pursuit of glorifying God. This is why Catholic Churches are so chock full of beautiful things, because Gods Church should be beautiful.

Take Judas in the NT- when he tried to stop the other disciples from soaping the floor of the area where Jesus would preach from, claiming that Jesus was too humble for it, Jesus condemned him for it.

>>135422521
lol

>Babys are born with heart defects so they die before they're baptised and go to hell.

>people are predestined to commit suicide and go to hell.

you Christians are wacky as fuck.

>>135423232
You are speaking of foreknowlege which Calvinism denies

>>135423807
The *original* Christianity

>>135424495
*is not the same

>>135424376
Ex-Protestant here. Most see it as idol worship.

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>>135424720
Which is pretty strange considering this verse from the Magnificat.

> For he has looked upon the low estate of his bondmaid; for behold, from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.

>>135424266
https://www.gotquestions.org/Christian-relics.html

>>135424291
Nobody is fool kike. Try again next threadbut dont start quoting the talmud because it gives you away.

>>135424985
I think it's the whole statue and iconography thing You guys pray to her, right? If so that's probably part of it.

>>135424500
Sins of the father....
Inb4
>*tips or fedora* heh ahctuuualllyyyy le flying spaghetti derp lel :DD plz upvote!!
Go back to where ye came demon!
>>>r/atheism

>>135424521
Forgive me for my lack of understanding, but how so?

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>>135424992
>posts link to some heretic's bullshit.

No, thanks. Read the Bible, Prot-boy cuck.

>>135418102
Judaism

Orthodox Christianity

>>135424633
See >>135424992
Didnt feel like screen capping,but it has the common Protestant view on relics well written.

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>>135425417
First you claim relics aren't Biblical. I post a verse from Scripture proving you wrong and you link to some heretic's personal opinion on the matter.

>Prot BTFO like usually.

>>135425158
I actually dont know what your talking about.

Because I never read the Talmud.

I am a Gnostic and I read the Nag Hammadi and the Sumerian Texts.

>>135421088
Infighting(civil wars), debased currency, (((them))), plague, uncontrolled immigration, granting citizenship to non-Romans, hiring unreliable mercenaries to do their fighting, giving total power to nutcases, had nothing to do with it.

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>>135425162
>Exodus 25:17-22

>17Thou shalt make also a propitiatory of the purest gold: the length thereof shall be two cubits and a half, and the breadth a cubit and a half. 18Thou shalt make also two cherubims of beaten gold, on the two sides of the oracle. 19Let one cherub be on the one side, and the other on the other. 20Let them cover both sides of the propitiatory, spreading their wings, and covering the oracle, and let them look one towards the other, their faces being turned towards the propitiatory wherewith the ark is to be covered. 21In which thou shalt put the testimony that I will give thee. 22Thence will I give orders, and will speak to thee over the propitiatory, and from the midst of the two cherubims, which shall be upon the ark of the testimony, all things which I will command the children of Israel by thee.

more to follow

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>Numbers 21:8-9

>And the Lord said to him: Make brazen serpent, and set it up for a sign: whosoever being struck shall look on it, shall live. 9Moses therefore made a brazen serpent, and set it up for a sign: which when they that were bitten looked upon, they were healed.

more to follow

>>135425238
Relics arent Biblical period, its idolatry. My faith in Christ isnt somehow stronger by touching a long dead popes skeleton, sorry. By all means keep thinking so, just remain faith in Christ and i'll still call you my brother. This animosity you feel towards Baptists etc is not mutual or reciprocal.

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Be 1st Century Church:

Men could debate and ask questions, women remained silent. Now everyone is silent except for paid staff.

Lord's Supper was a full meal. Now it is a bite of crackers.

Teachers were paid in proportion to their teacher services; now every pastor collects their checks even through youtube does a better job of teaching then they do (done by college professors who already get paid for their services).

Reformation needs to continue.

>>135423232
>Don't confuse knowing what someone will do with that of choosing for them. Just because you predict the idiot will fall off the cliff doesn't mean that the idiot didn't choose to.
Except when you literally create said idiot knowing that he will fall off the cliff.

There's no way around it, predestination makes God evil.

>>135425168
God's knowledge of what will happen in the future. Since it is just him knowing, he did not say cause you to do something but rather he knows what you would do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lKIe5bG6Ew

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>The Apocalypse 8:3-4

>3And another angel came, and stood before the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given to him much incense, that he should offer of the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar, which is before the throne of God. 4And the smoke of the incense of the prayers of the saints ascended up before God from the hand of the angel.

>>135425575
You didnt post a Bible verse, that was a vatican writing. If you want i could post the scripture denying relics, but then i dont care about your idolatry so keep doing it. A house or shack or tent is just as suitable a place to worship with 2+ Christians as a relic filled church.

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>>135418102
>What denomination of Christianity follows the Bible the closest?
>>135419574
>Protestantism.
you're out of your element, donny

the correct answer is missouri synod lutheran

>>135418102
Coptics and Seventh-Day Adventists.

>>135425982
I meant to proclaim that.
>>135425938
That is when we start to understand things that we cannot and are incapable of.

Russian Old Believers and Coptic.

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>>135425922
>Acts 19: 11-12

>11God was performing extraordinary miracles by the hands of Paul, 12so that handkerchiefs or aprons were even carried from his body to the sick, and the diseases left them and the evil spirits went out.

>2 Kings 13:20-21
>20And Eliseus died, and they buried him. And the rovers from Moab came into the land the same year. 21And some that were burying a man, saw the rovers, and cast the body into the sepulchre of Eliseus. And when it had touched the bones of Eliseus, the man came to life, and stood upon his feet.

>Mark 5 24-34
>When she had heard of Jesus, came in the crowd behind him, and touched his garment. 28For she said: If I shall touch but his garment, I shall be whole. 29And forthwith the fountain of her blood was dried up, and she felt in her body that she was healed of the evil. 30And immediately Jesus knowing in himself the virtue that had proceeded from him, turning to the multitude, said: Who hath touched my garments? 31And his disciples said to him: Thou seest the multitude thronging thee, and sayest thou who hath touched me? 32And he looked about to see her who had done this. 33But the woman fearing and trembling, knowing what was done in her, came and fell down before him, and told him all the truth. 34And he said to her: Daughter, thy faith hath made thee whole: go in peace, and be thou whole of thy disease.

It's never too late to abandon your heresies, Prot-boy

>>135420462
I too see a resurgance of the Christian faith coming this century. Heralded by Trump and the permission he represents to have pride in your country, your heritage, your ancestors, and for us, that is a Christian heritage.

I am a new Christian and I'm excited to watch, for the rest of my life, the church grow again.

>>135425880
Later in the OT that serpent statue was being prayed to with incense and offerings. Hezekiah broke this idol into pieces in 2 Kings 18:4

>>135426617
More like that's when you start to realize your concept of God is flawed as fuck.

>>135420195
>said the Jew for the tenth time today

>>135418102
LDS

>>135418258
>Church of Scotland

Their ultra cucked

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>>135418102
>>135418102
Not Catholicism. Catholicism esteems human tradition & culture over that of the ways of God, its basis is rooted upon human decrees, they are unable to argue from the Bible, instead it has to rely on Vatican-sanctioned histories, they use idols, pray through false intercessors like Saints & Mary, even though Jesus alone is the way to the Father, they instituted pagan festivals & holidays, and even presumptuously assume the power to remit sin. In their Catechism they tampered with God's Law -- removed the 2nd commandment, altered the 4th, and split the 10th to preserve the # (fulfilling Daniel 7). The history of Catholicism has been one of Satanic abuse employing political & martial power to exert their will. The only Biblical argument they use for Popery is "Peter is the rock of the church" yet that isn't a justification for Papal hierarchical arrangement whatsoever -- read the books written by Peter, he never in anyway condones such an architecture. Upon the death, resurrection and ascension of Jesus, the Church was small, far-flung, and fragile, and so Peter was raised up to clarify questions and give context to the example laid by Christ to the early church -- so yes, in this way the "church was built on the rock of Peter" which is to say, his teachings & clarifications -- not the man or any man -- Jesus is the foundation on which we must place our faith completely.
Orthodox have many of the same problems as Catholicism.
Faggot-sects of Jesuit-infiltrated "Protestantism" have lost their balls and are no longer standing up against the seat of the Antichrist power which is Popery and most still false sabbath. Although the early Reformers didn't agree on much, they got the ball rolling and agreed that Papacy was illegitimate.

>Comprehensive history of the Reformation & Catholic blasphemy
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLF170B126002E7CB0
https://carm.org/list-of-roman-catholic-false-teachings
https://carm.org/luthers-95-theses

>>135420279
You're doing prayer wrong
It's a practice for your benefit

>>135426734
That translation is wrong. It is Paul's hand and prayers healing which is absolutely biblical. Your last quote literally contradicts your pro-relic belief in it, Jesus tells her it was her faith not her Physically touching him.

>>135418102
Mark 7:1-13King James Version (KJV)

7 Then came together unto him the Pharisees, and certain of the scribes, which came from Jerusalem.

2 And when they saw some of his disciples eat bread with defiled, that is to say, with unwashen, hands, they found fault.

3 For the Pharisees, and all the Jews, except they wash their hands oft, eat not, holding the tradition of the elders.

4 And when they come from the market, except they wash, they eat not. And many other things there be, which they have received to hold, as the washing of cups, and pots, brasen vessels, and of tables.

5 Then the Pharisees and scribes asked him, Why walk not thy disciples according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashen hands?

6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.

7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.

9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.

10 For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death:

11 But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free.

12 And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother;

13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.

Catholics are no different from Jews with their strict adherence to tradition of men. Jesus Christ took issue with them rejecting a single commandment. I wonder how He would react if He learned that Catholics tampered with the commandments.

>>135426858
Amen brother, i'm so happy to hear this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkTC95CZZfY

>>135427048
Ok, then answer me this. What is the biggest rock, what is the smallest thing, and what was the first word spoken in existence?

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>>135426859
That is because they were worshiping it, and burning incense directly to it. Instead or recognizing it as a symbol they thought the statue actually had power.

When you pray before your bed post, prot-boy, are you worshipping it?

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>>135420255
>mfw roman catholicism is in no way Christianity but a continuation of the politcal system of rome.
>mfw roman catholicism has killed more self-confessed christians than Islam
>mfw roman catholics in 500 AD burned Christians from India alive, and their books when they claim apostolic succession from Thomas going back to 52 AD
>mfw catholics give protestants shit for removing books when the catholic church removed 14 books from the bible in 1684 and heavily edited daniel and esther
>mfw roman catholics use military force to exterminate self-confessed christians
>mfw people shill this hard for the central focusing point of apostasy, a one world government, and the globalist conspiracy
>mfw the catholic church invented Islam
>mfw roman catholics were the first ones to sack Constantinople
>mfw the catholic church pushes a pro-islam rhetoric
>mfw the catholic church lets the quran and islamic prayers into its services

>>135418102
west boro baptist, duh

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>>135427458
Her faith compelled her to believe that by touching His garment she would be healed.
The translation isn't wrong either, unlike the KJV that was based on relatively new Masoretic texts put forth by Jewish Rabbis.

>>135427501
The pharasees attacked Christ for performing a miracle on the Sabbath, we too must be careful to not get hung up on non essential. Basically do this >>135420552 and i would call you a brother in Christ. Secondary things are not cause for disunity. John 17:20-23 is Jesus being very clear

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%2017:20-23

Exodus 20:4-6King James Version (KJV)

4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

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>>135427990
None of this is true, especially considering heretics aren't Christian.
What is true, however, is that Dutch Protestants helped the Japanese Shoguns
destroy Christianity in Japan. Prots also sided with the Turks against Christendom.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shimabara_Rebellion

look up Christianity of the east.. not the eastern Orthodox church, but the real church of the east.. the Norsemen where well aware of Christianity long before Rome

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>>135428197
You do know King James was a notorious faggot, right? He also said this faggotry was Christ-like.

>17th century commentators, such as poet Théophile de Viau wrote plainly about the king's relationship. In his poem, Au marquis du Boukinquan, de Viau writes: "Apollo with his songs / debauched young Hyacinthus, ... And it is well known that the king of England / fucks the Duke of Buckingham."

>I, James, am neither a god nor an angel, but a man like any other. Therefore I act like a man and confess to loving those dear to me more than other men. You may be sure that I love the Earl of Buckingham more than anyone else, and more than you who are here assembled. I wish to speak in my own behalf and not to have it thought to be a defect, for Jesus Christ did the same, and therefore I cannot be blamed. Christ had John, and I have George.

>>135427649
Infinite regress makes it so that there will always be a bigger rock, a smaller thing, and never a first word.

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>>135428473
Those Eastern Churches are currently in communion with the Church of Rome and together comprise what is known as the Catholic Church.

>>135427979
>but they were worshipping it
Like this? >>135423902

Look, we disagree, if you love and follow Christ thats enough for me to call you my Christian brother even if you have nothing but hatred for me. Im not seeking your validation.

>>135428503
Didn't answer my question.

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>>135421573

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>>135428317
pretty much all of it is true

there are christians in india that claim apostilic succesion from Thomas, and they were inquisitioned by the portugese roman catholics in 1500 ad, made a typo. Christians in India were burned alive, along with a large portion of their manuscript.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_India#Arrival_of_the_Portuguese_and_Christianity

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiI1Uq2WhRE

>>135428742
What answer were you expecting? "I don't know?"

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>>135428641
They are worshipping the Body and Blood of Christ, not the statues.
As long as you continue to blatantly LIE and attack the Church of Christ I will do nothing other than try to destroy you.
God before man. Take your "friendship" elsewhere.

>>135428317
I sincerely hope you get this hatred from your heart and truly surrender to Christ.

>>135418102
Evangelicals

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>>135420191
get fukt

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>>135429005
>As long as you continue to blatantly LIE and attack the Church of Christ I will do nothing other than try to destroy you.

looking real muslim there anon

the church tries to substitute itself for christ, the catholic church is the antichrist, anti is a greek word for substitute, or in place of.

>>135429005
Thou shalt not kill (LXX; οὐ φονεύσεις), You shall not murder (Hebrew: לֹא תִּרְצָח lo tirṣaḥ) or You shall not kill (KJV), is a moral imperative included as one of the Ten Commandments in the Torah,[1] specifically Exodus 20:13 and Deuteronomy 5:17. The imperative to not kill is in the context of unlawful killing resulting in bloodguilt.[2]

The Hebrew Bible contains numerous prohibitions against unlawful killing, but also contains prescriptive imperatives for lawful killing in the context of warfare, capital punishment, and self-defense
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thou_shalt_not_kill
Are you Catholics going to break another commandment?

>>135429005
Sure sounds like you have nothing but hatred in your heart for everyone who expresses love and service to Christ. I'm praying for you brother.

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>>135429286
careful anon, this one has wet dreams about the horrors of the inquisition

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>>135428868
No, you're a liar, plain and simple. Just look at that pic of yours, that's the Pope looking at a Quran, yet it's supposedly evidence of us allowing the Quran into our religious rites.
The Indians strayed into heresy, and so have you.
Care to explain away the Prot alliance with Muslims and Japanese Shoguns?

>Day of the briquette when?

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>>135429056
>>135429286
>>135429362
>>135429421

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>>135422963
>diddles countless kids
>sponsored by countless elites
>not satanic

As an Anglican I respect catholocism as a faith but the church is in a dark place

>>135420067
>incorporates Eastern religion concepts like Nirvana and Karma and those little shrines you see in the far east are in everyones home. They were heavily influenced by heathen lands and invasions (like catholic/pagan similarities) and assimilation by buddhist/shinto/hindu, even much of their art (paintings etc) have chinese art styles with large bubble heads.
are you seriously this retarded?

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>>135429711
Of course it is.
Vatican II allowed a flood of Prot-entryists, Faggots, and Jews in..
>The gates of hell shall never prevail against the Church,

but it doesn't mean they wont have some marginal successes.
We lose may every battle but the final one.

>>135418102
The one that says Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life. That no one comes to God except through Him. The one that says Jesus is fully God and fully man, that He gives Hid Spirit to those who believe, confess and repent; and that He will return to judge the living and the dead. And that the increase of His government and His peace will never end.

>>135429645
Even liberal pseudo-Christians dont believe that. You got a very twisted idea about Christians somehow. Unrepentant sin (like the kind you promote) is ungodly.

Independent Fundamental Baptism.

Anyone who tells you Orthodox or Catholic is likely of the devil.

>>135430128
And that he died, was buried and rose from the dead and ascended to the right hand of the Father, and forever intercedes for humanity.

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>>135429484
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/9716/christian-clergy-islam
https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/catholic-chapel-in-italy-opened-for-muslim-prayer
>No, you're a liar, plain and simple. Just look at that pic of yours, that's the Pope looking at a Quran, yet it's supposedly evidence of us allowing the Quran into our religious rites.
this is what I like to call frontal lobe brain damage

>The Indians strayed into heresy, and so have you.
>unbroken chain of apostolic succession claimed from the apostle Thomas who traveled to India, and was martyred there.
>strayed into heresy
pick one

>Care to explain away the Prot alliance with Muslims and Japanese Shoguns?
care to explain why the catholic church has a nasty habbit of burning the bible, and people alive for reading the bible?
you wanna answer about the Waldensians, or Albigensians? and their extermination for being self-professed christian who studied and encouraged personal study of the scripture by the catholic churches military campaigns?

>>135429645
>mfw the church sold indulgences, and sold permissions to sin
>mfw the papal chair has been bought by a long line of popes
>mfw pope innocent III killed more christians than every roman cesar put together

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>>135429484
here's a picture of a pope kissing a quran by the way.

>>135429645
>Born as man who was promoted to deity
So Jesus from Mark's gospel?

>>135418102
Armenian orthodox is closest to Christianity as it was in Jesus' time

>>135429862
Influenced culturally =/= godless

I consider eastern orthodox my brothers in Christ. As i've heard it explained they just swapped the words nirvana and heaven or paradise, but it is still the same Christian meaning, it wasnt meant as insulting. care to defend it better? Whats up with all the shrines in houses too?

>>135425751
>and the other on the other
Why can't they write?

>>135418102
Catholics do
but people like to say they don't to make themselves feel better.
It's not an easy thing & sin is everywhere
You end up repenting for everything

>>135430739
That was before Jews mixed with Europeans and produced high verbal IQ Ashkenazim.

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>>135430292
>>135430362

Again, you prove nothing other than your lack of good will.
The exceptions do not prove/diprove the norm. Interfaith prayers, and pagan "holy books" are forbidden with Catholicism. The Albigensians and Waldensians were promoting heresy, not individual Bible reading, their "bibles" were not Bibles, but the vandilization of Sacred Scripture.
The Prots technically had Apostolic succession through their former Catholic beliefs, but forfeited it to Luther and Calvin's heresies.

Now, since I've addressed your concerns, care to explain why Prots sided with the Turks against Christendom, and aided the Japanese Shoguns in eradicating Christianity in Japan? Or are you going to continue to dodge?

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>>135430941
i guess in a way they do follow the bible

>>135430941
https://www.gotquestions.org/Catholic-Biblical.html
Question: "Are Catholic beliefs and practices biblical?"

Answer: The issue concerning any church and its practices should be “Is this biblical?” If a teaching is Biblical (taken in context), it should be embraced. If it is not, it should be rejected. God is more interested in whether a church is doing His will and obeying His Word than whether it can trace a line of succession back to Jesus’ apostles. Jesus was very concerned about abandoning the Word of God to follow the traditions of men (Mark 7:7). Traditions are not inherently invalid…there are some good and valuable traditions. Again, the issue must be whether a doctrine, practice, or tradition is Biblical. How then does the Roman Catholic Church compare with the teachings of the Word of God?

Salvation: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that salvation is by baptismal regeneration and is maintained through the Catholic sacraments unless a willful act of sin is committed that breaks the state of sanctifying grace. The Bible teaches that we are saved by grace which is received through simple faith (Ephesians 2:8-9), and that good works are the result of a change of the heart wrought in salvation (Ephesians 2:10; 2 Corinthians 5:17) and the fruit of that new life in Christ (John 15).

Assurance of salvation: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that salvation cannot be guaranteed or assured. 1 John 5:13 states that the letter of 1 John was written for the purpose of assuring believers of the CERTAINTY of their salvation.

Good Works: The Roman Catholic Church states that Christians are saved by meritorious works (beginning with baptism) and that salvation is maintained by good works (receiving the sacraments, confession of sin to a priest, etc.) The Bible states that Christians are saved by grace through faith, totally apart from works (Titus 3:5; Ephesians 2:8-9; Galatians 3:10-11; Romans 3:19-24).

>>135428956
Sorry for the late reply, but the same answer I gave you.

>>135431226
Prayer: The Roman Catholic Church teaches Catholics to not only pray to God, but also to petition Mary and the saints for their prayers. Contrary to this, we are taught in Scripture to only pray to God (Matthew 6:9; Luke 18:1-7).

Priesthood: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that there is a distinction between the clergy and the “lay people,” whereas the New Testament teaches the priesthood of all believers (1 Peter 2:9).

Sacraments: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that a believer is infused with grace upon reception of the sacraments. Such teaching is nowhere found in Scripture.

Confession: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that unless a believer is hindered, the only way to receive the forgiveness of sins is by confessing them to a priest. Contrary to this, Scripture teaches that confession of sins is to be made to God (1 John 1:9).

Mary: The Roman Catholic Church teaches, among other things, that Mary is the Queen of Heaven, a perpetual virgin, and the co-redemptress who ascended into heaven. In Scripture, she is portrayed as an obedient, believing servant of God, who became the mother of Jesus. None of the other attributes mentioned by the Roman Catholic Church have any basis in the Bible. The idea of Mary being the co-redemptress and another mediator between God and man is not only extra-biblical (found only outside of Scripture), but is also unbiblical (contrary to Scripture). Acts 4:12 declares that Jesus is the only redeemer. 1 Timothy 2:5 proclaims that Jesus is the only mediator between God and men.

>>135429862
Catholicism did borrow many elements from Buddhism, including celibate priests and nuns, repetitive chanting, mantras, rosaries, etc.

>>135431306
Many other examples could be given. These issues alone clearly identify the Catholic Church as being unbiblical. Every Christian denomination has traditions and practices that are not explicitly based on Scripture. That is why Scripture must be the standard of Christian faith and practice. The Word of God is always true and reliable. The same cannot be said of church tradition. Our guideline is to be: “What does Scripture say?” (Romans 4:3; Galatians 4:30; Acts 17:11). 2 Timothy 3:16-17 declares, “All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting, and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.”

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>>135418102
Independent Fundamental Baptist.

>>135431102
Why did Catholics sack Constantinople?

If Protestantism is true, there is no reason to say for sure that Revelation is closed (since nowhere does Scripture say it is). And so the possibility remains that there may be future public revelation--like the Book of Mormon--leading to confusion and chaos among God's people.

The passage from the book of Revelation that warns people not to add or take away from the words of the book clearly refers only to that book (since at the time of its writing there was no single "book" of the whole Bible). Indeed, similar passages exist in Deuteronomy 4 and 13, yet of course, many books were added to the bible after Deuteronomy.

Jude 3 is a more interesting possibility, and in Catholic theology it is plausible to interpret the verse in a way that supports (but not proves) the belief that public revelation is closed. One problem for a protestant seeking to use it alone as a prooftext is the probable dating of Jude itself. Unless Jude were the very last book of the bible to be written, it makes no sense to claim that the inspired author intended his words to mean that no more books of the Bible would come after him. Scholars consider it likely that 2 Peter draws from Jude, which argues for an earlier dating of the letter, probably in the 50's or 60's. Another problem is that Jude's status as Scripture was not universally attested--Luther himself appealed to this fact in his prologue to the four New Testament books he rejected, which included Jude. Since the Church took centuries to accept Jude as Scripture, it is unlikely that one of its statements would have been used to prove the closure of public revelation.

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>>135418102

>>135418484
Not sure, but most Baptists I know are anti-Calvinism.
>t.Baptist

>>135418102
vaude and cathars and francis bacon and french christianism

>>135419622
on the full retard section.

>>135431344
Sweet Mary and Joseph. Will you butthurt protestants ever get over it?

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The Catholic Church compiled the Bible during the Council of Rome.
I quoted several Biblical citations for a few Catholic practices earlier in the thread and they were ignored by Christ hating Protestants?

By the way, what Prot denominations are represented here today?

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Esoteric christianity is the only denomination that isnt filled with autists.

Repent now.

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>>135431547
Actually, I'm going to ignore your guys' questions like you do mine and just hit you with memes? Fair enough?
Lets start.

Here's a Prot teaching his congregation how to polish the shaft.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tr0UpQXYkGs&t=2s

>>135431755
I was thinking the same thing. They're always so quick to judge others on this subject.
Didn't really warrant a reply from me.
As long as somehow holds the core beliefs of the Bible and understands Jesus they'll be okay.
I really don't think we'll be judged as harshly in the afterlife as we are on earth.

>>135418102
Christ followed the Bible perfectly. He gave perfection to the Law and went further.

He is the perfect human being (the good Jew), and he was killed because of this.

Later, he founded His church and gave Peter the keys of the Kingdom.

>>135420255
The Catholic Church doesnt follow the Bible at all, Catholics practise the Babylonian Religion of Ishtar worship, and you're going to burn in Hell with your Jesuit pope.

>This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work. A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous; One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity; (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?) Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil. Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.

>Likewise must the deacons be grave, not doubletongued, not given to much wine, not greedy of filthy lucre; Holding the mystery of the faith in a pure conscience. And let these also first be proved; then let them use the office of a deacon, being found blameless. Even so must their wives be grave, not slanderers, sober, faithful in all things. Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well. For they that have used the office of a deacon well purchase to themselves a good degree, and great boldness in the faith which is in Christ Jesus.

The (((Roman))) Catholic Church makes God want to vomit.

>>135432294

The Catholic-Orthodox Church literally assembled the very bible you cite.

Why do you think you read Revelations and not the Didache?

Do you think God gave the apostles a table of contents on pentecost?

Idiot.

>>135432227
>Later, he founded His church and gave Peter the keys of the Kingdom.
The keys to the kingdom were given to all, the keys are the Word of God. The Word that saves.

Baptists definitely, and my whole family is from Assembly of God protestants.

but the AoG of BR went full retard in the last 10 years along with pretty much all of the protestant branches. Baptists are pretty much the only ones still holding.

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>>135432294
Catholics created the Bible during the Council of Rome.

Are you really this ignorant, or just another Christ-hating Prot liar?

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>>135431102
>Again, you prove nothing other than your lack of good will.
>They are worshipping the Body and Blood of Christ, not the statues.
As long as you continue to blatantly LIE and attack the Church of Christ I will do nothing other than try to destroy you.
> I will do nothing other than try to destroy you.

man, you're like the most intellectually and spiritually dishonest person I'll ever talk to

>care to explain why Prots sided with the Turks against Roman Paganism
probably because of the crusades.
you want to go ahead and address why catholics are aligning with Islam now? take a look at the gospel of Barnabas and the catholic churches stance on it.

>and aided the Japanese Shoguns in eradicating roman paganism in Japan?
because catholicism is not Christianity, but the continuation of the roman empire. they exterminated jesuits because they were crypto jews.

again, you dodged every single point I raised up, and put together 2 non-arguments.

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/9716/christian-clergy-islam
https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/catholic-chapel-in-italy-opened-for-muslim-prayer

islamic prayers are being put into catholic churches

>The exceptions do not prove/diprove the norm. Interfaith prayers, and pagan "holy books" are forbidden with Catholicism.

then go ahead and explain to me why quran verses, and muslim prayers are being allowed in catholic churches, from where I sit you're looking like a real idiot...

>. The Albigensians and Waldensians were promoting heresy, not individual Bible reading, their "bibles" were not Bibles, but the vandilization of Sacred Scripture.

this coming from the ones who defiled the book of Esther and Daniel?

>The Prots technically had Apostolic succession through their former Catholic beliefs, but forfeited it to Luther and Calvin's heresies.
and the Indians had apostolic succession from Thomas going back to 52 AD all the way to 1500AD, until Roman paganism burned them alive, and their records.

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>>135432368
>The Catholic-Orthodox Church literally assembled the very bible you cite.
They didn't write the Bible, papist filth. Your filthy father Constantine and his degenerate Pagan friends turned the Church in Rome into the Roman Church.

Repent or burn you filthy apostate.

>>135432701
>mfw catholics removed 14 books from the bible in 1684 and heavily edited daniel and esther, and doesn't have the integrity to acknowledge it.

jew masons wrote the bible so it's a fairly tale just like holohoax and dinohoax.

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>>135432653

Since you're a Prot, how were you taught to polish the shaft?
>>135432134

>>135418128
Coptic, really? But what bible? I bet their Bible isn't the western one.

>>135432368
>>135432755
You dont even believe the Bible or in God, like the majority of Catholics, and you probably believe in (((evolution))).

You disgust me, Mario.

>>135432134
>gets BTFO by question about why Catholics sacked Constantinople
>changes subject
Catholics, everyone

>>135430717
>As i've heard it explained they just swapped the words nirvana and heaven or paradise
except that they are absolutely different concepts and not connected to eachother.
And there is literally no place for karma in Christianity AT ALL.

And """shrines""" (that are actually just a prayer corner" are common in all Christendom, including catholics, afaik
And all this """cultural influence""" is just a new age assumption with zero credibility. if you want cultural influence on Christianity, look for Egypt.

>>135431326
except that it didnt and it all came from Egypt.
First monastic society was actually in Egypt and pagan priests were celibate, dedicating their entire life to their gods. After Egypt became Christian, the Ascetic traditions transfered to Christian culture. It has no connection to Buddhism and never had an extensive link to Buddhism until age of discoveries.

>>135420059
... that, and the Apocrypha, and y'know, you let priests say what they want on top of it.

>>135422521

Calvinist are idiots because they don't understand that God knowing everything that will happen is not the same as predestination, because God does not exist within time. You have full free will to affect things in the time, and affect the course of the universe.

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Doesn't provide source.
LOL.

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>>135432134
Actually, I'm going to ignore your guys' questions like you do mine and just hit you with memes? Fair enough?

>>135431102
>Or are you going to continue to dodge?

some real dishonest bullshit you got going on here.

>>135432701
>Pagan Catholics cherrypicked the books that went into the Bible
They never wrote a line of scripture, dirty apostate pagan filth. Constantine turned the Church in Rome into the Roman Church.

You degenerate reprobate filth.

Go teach a class on (((evolution))) you shaved ape.

>>135432701
Yeah, he removed the fake scripture.

>>135432892
New king James version is the English version we use.

>>135431556
Because Paul says that he's the last apostle, and the definition of an apostle is someone that was visited by Jesus after His resurrection and chosen to preach.

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>>135433080
what ever you say future muslim.

>>135433141
You don't understand at all
& one thing lots of people seem to forget is the jewish subversion of the church.

>>135432969
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1EM9iZpLeI

>>135431755
Orthodoxy hates the Bible too?

>>135431306
Like how Catholic masses are always repetitions, the same thing with forgiveness by confession by saying 30x 'hail mary', Matthew 6:7 specificly says not vain repetitions.

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>Following the Turkish conquest of Constantinople in 1453 by Mehmet II and the unification of the Middle East under Selim I, Suleiman the Magnificent, the son of Selim, managed to expand Ottoman rule to the Balkans. The Habsburg Empire thus entered into direct conflict with the Ottomans.

At the same time the Protestant Reformation was taking place in numerous areas of northern and central Europe, in harsh opposition to Papal authority and the Holy Roman Empire led by Emperor Charles V. This situation led the Protestants to consider various forms of cooperation and rapprochement (religious, commercial, military) with the Muslim world, in opposition to their common Habsburg enemy.

>During the development of the Reformation, Protestantism and Islam were considered closer to each other than they were to Catholicism: "Islam was seen as closer to Protestantism in banning images from places of worship, in not treating marriage as a sacrament and in rejecting monastic orders"

>Martin Luther also took note of the similarities between Islam and Protestantism in the rejection of idols, although he noted Islam was much more drastic in its complete rejection of images. In On War against the Turk, Luther is actually less critical of the Turks than he is of the Pope, whom he calls an anti-Christ, or the Jews, whom he describes as "the Devil incarnate".[16] He urges his contemporaries to also see the good aspects in the Turks, and refers to some who were favourable to the Ottoman Empire, and "who actually want the Turk to come and rule, because they think that our German people are wild and uncivilized - indeed that they are half-devil and half-man".[

>>135432914
You don't believe (or acknowledge) the evolution? Pardon me as I withdraw gracefully.

>>135433458
If Steven Anderson is considered a "credible source" regarding cathodox in your opinion, then I feel sorry for you.

>>135433463
>Like how Catholic masses are always repetitions, the same thing with forgiveness by confession by saying 30x 'hail mary', Matthew 6:7 specificly says not vain repetitions.
It's a way to purify someones spirit, it's not a bad thing. This way stuff doesn't get repressed.

>>135433286
Mark 9
38John said to Him, “Teacher, we saw someone casting out demons in Your name, and we tried to prevent him because he was not following us.” 39But Jesus said, “Do not hinder him, for there is no one who will perform a miracle in My name, and be able soon afterward to speak evil of Me.

anyone can preach, the gospel is chicken soup for the soul

>>135433363
>You don't understand at all
I got your fucking number, you blasphemous little shit. I know exactly what is going on. You're brainwashed by your cult.

Both my parents were raised Catholic, and it worked, they both rejected the church and never took us. Catholics teach people how to go straight to Hell, boy.

I know the truth because unlike you I've actually read the entire Bible, instead of letting some virgin priest tell me what is supposedly says.

And unlike you, I know exactly where I am going when I die.

>>135433626
He simply states what the Catholics teach and critiques it. If he gets something wrong feel free to point it out.

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>>135433628

>Doesn't know the Mass consists of almost nothing but Scripture
>Doesn't know Christ repeated his prayers in the Garden of Gethsemane

Like how Prots lie and say they are like the Early Christians but don't celebrate the Mass.
>>135423902

>>135433286

Where you do you get this idea that the term apostle is limited only to the original 12 disciples? Can you define what disciple means in Matthew 28:19?

>>135433835
>anyone can preach
never said they couldn't.

>>135433501
>You don't believe (or acknowledge) the evolution? Pardon me as I withdraw gracefully.
You reject the Word of God because of the Jewish fable of (((evolution))).

You dont even believe in God... like most Catholics.

>>135431306

Now tell me where in scripture is says that only scripture is a source of spiritual truth.

I'll wait.

>>135433626
Steven Anderson is going to Heaven while you and your pope are going to burn in Hell.

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>>135433458
celibacy is actually looked on favourably in the bible

matthew 19:12

12 For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.

he is generally right about the bishop having to be married though, but I do generally look at steve anderson as an idiot ever since I saw his sermons against eastern mysticism.

>>135433948
>Where you do you get this idea that the term apostle is limited only to the original 12 disciples?
I don't have that idea, because Jesus later added 70 more apostles. Then he added Paul. Those are the apostles that exist, and Paul was the LAST apostle.

That means Jesus has not shown himself to add to the gospel after that. And I think there is sufficient scriptural evidence not to add to god's word.

>>135433948
Christ anointed 70 disciples.

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>>135433892
>Watch 45 minutes of bullshit just to refute the same often repeated lies.

No, thanks.

>>135434147

Why does Jesus have to show himself for somebody to be an apostle? Can you define what disciple means in Matthew 28:19?

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>>135433982
your definition of apostle is fallacious and gave the impression otherwise.

>>135433892
I already said about monasticism, for example. Christian monasticism began in Egypt and has no influence from Buddhism.

I cant really take a guy seriously, who, for example, compared concept of Theosis to "Hindu bullcrap" and denied to actually get to know, what it actually meant, instead shouting "I DONT WANT TO KNOW ABOUT IT AT ALL, (BECAUSE IT SOUNDS SPOOKY TO ME")
e does good job regarding exposure of non-Christians or other protestants, like Calvinists, but when it comes to Cathodox, he is extremely biased.

>>135433846
I'm not afraid of death one bit.
Don't be so quick to judge.

It's strange you're so angry try to calm down some

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>>135434051
>Now tell me where in scripture is says that only scripture is a source of spiritual truth. I'll wait.

You have to give them time to make something up, edit it into "scripture", and claim it's infallible. Better get lunch first.

>>135424164

The problem is that they would be immortal with sin , gods will is you die you lose your sins and then you become immortal

>>135434051
>5Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.

>6Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
Proverbs 30

>All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
2 Timothy 3:16

Try reading the Bible instead of telling your fap stories to your priest.

>>135434088
>pope
Georgia is orthodox retard

>>135431790
The Roman Catholic Church does not have unity of doctrine and worship. New doctrines have been introduced vs. what early Christians believed: e.g. Immaculate Conception which even Thomas Aquinas argues against in the Summa Theologica, papal infallibility, Filioque. The manner in which Mass is celebrated has changed multiple times from the manner in which early Christians celebrated the Divine Liturgy. The Roman Catholic Church even contradicts its own acceptance of the validity of ecumenical councils (e.g. papal supremacy contradicts the 28th canon of the Council of Chalcedon which elevates the Bishop of New Rome/Constantinople to an equal status with that of the Bishop of Old Rome).

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>>135434602
We do, and we compiled the Bible before you Prots defaced it to mean whatever you want it to.

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Orthodoxy and Old Catholics if they reject the Pope fully.

>>135434051
matthew 16
1The Pharisees and Sadducees came up, and testing Jesus, they asked Him to show them a sign from heaven. 2But He replied to them, “When it is evening, you say, ‘It will be fair weather, for the sky is red.’ 3“And in the morning, ‘There will be a storm today, for the sky is red and threatening.’ Do you know how to discern the appearance of the sky, but cannot discern the signs of the times? 4“An evil and adulterous generation seeks after a sign; and a sign will not be given it, except the sign of Jonah.” And He left them and went away.

5And the disciples came to the other side of the sea, but they had forgotten to bring any bread. 6And Jesus said to them, “Watch out and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees.” 7They began to discuss this among themselves, saying, “He said that because we did not bring any bread.” 8But Jesus, aware of this, said, “You men of little faith, why do you discuss among yourselves that you have no bread? 9“Do you not yet understand or remember the five loaves of the five thousand, and how many baskets full you picked up? 10“Or the seven loaves of the four thousand, and how many large baskets full you picked up? 11“How is it that you do not understand that I did not speak to you concerning bread? But beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees.” 12Then they understood that He did not say to beware of the leaven of bread, but of the teaching of the Pharisees and Sadducees.

roman catholicism is pharisee and sadducees culture.

>>135434277
Because every person that is named an apostle in the Bible are appointed by Jesus Christ. First the twelve disciples are made into apostles and given the power to heal and stuff, then he later adds 70 more apostles according to the Bible, then finally he adds Paul, since most other apostles failed.

There isn’t one. Every sect of Christianity as bastardized the teachings of Christ. Baptists are just as bad as Catholics, just making up shit. I am a Christian but do not participate in any organized form of it because I disagree with every single sect.

Lol, you're going to get as many answers as there are denominations. Everyone thinks they're the most biblical. Personally, I don't know which one is the most biblical, I would just try to be the most biblical follower of Christ I can be.

>>135434484
False prophets and heretics make God angry, which is what you should be concerned about, apostate.

>>135432969
Paradise sounds great though and is biblical.
https://youtu.be/NgriVVhCM3c
>prayer corners
Why is a bed or a chair unacceptable to pray? Why do i need a pic of mary a rosary and incense for Christ to hear me? As in Philippians 4:4-7 says prayer and supplication through thanksgiving is all.

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>>135434725
>Doesn't know what "unity" means.

How're those almost 40,00 denominations working out for you?
Which one do you belong to, or are you like most Prots and too cowardly to say?

>>135434901
Oh Jesus no no English is not made for chanting. Sounds much better in Greek/Russian.

>>135434484
>I'm not afraid of death one bit.
That's because like the majority of Catholics you don't believe in God. It's a cultural thing. You Deus Vult larper shitheel.

This isn't a fucking game, you anonymous scum.

>>135434602

>none of those quotes say scripture in the only source of spiritual truth
>followed with a sanctimonious insult to a simple question

typical protestant reply. Arrogance in ignorance.

>>135434672
Go pray to your icons.

>>135434793

But how do you get from "every person named an apostle in in the Bible is appointed by Jesus" to "every apostle must be appointed by Jesus." That's not a logical leap to make. You're reading into the text what you want it to say instead of letting it speak for itself.

>>135434793
this is wrong

>38John said to Him, “Teacher, we saw someone casting out demons in Your name, and we tried to prevent him because he was not following us.” 39But Jesus said, “Do not hinder him, for there is no one who will perform a miracle in My name, and be able soon afterward to speak evil of Me.

the man who drove out a demon in his name probably never met Jesus.

according to the bible I have the power to heal, and drive out demons because I have faith in christ.

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>>135435111
>implying
Puritans are a literal cancer. Even orthodox Lutherans are better than them.
>pic related triggers puritans

>>135434901
>Paradise sounds great though and is biblical.
I was talking about nirvana.

>Why is a bed or a chair unacceptable to pray?
Its not a requrement in general. But prayer is a dialogue with God, so it should have a special treatment.

>Why do i need a pic of mary a rosary and incense for Christ to hear me?
You dont need it, its largely an addition for pleasant atmosphere.

>>135435073
>>none of those quotes say scripture in the only source of spiritual truth

>Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.

Go take a night course in English, you filthy spic.

>>135435155
You're the one adding to the Bible if you're saying that apostles can be apostles without being appointed by Jesus.

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>>135434851
Where in the Bible does it say to use the Bible as your sole rule of Faith?

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>>135418102
Catholic

>>135435030
Why should I be afraid to die when heaven already knows me?
It's not like I haven't confessed every sin & asked forgiveness.
That's what it means to not be afraid of death that's the power of Jesus.

>>135435443
Matthew 16
1The Pharisees and Sadducees came up, and testing Jesus, they asked Him to show them a sign from heaven. 2But He replied to them, “When it is evening, you say, ‘It will be fair weather, for the sky is red.’ 3“And in the morning, ‘There will be a storm today, for the sky is red and threatening.’ Do you know how to discern the appearance of the sky, but cannot discern the signs of the times? 4“An evil and adulterous generation seeks after a sign; and a sign will not be given it, except the sign of Jonah.” And He left them and went away.

5And the disciples came to the other side of the sea, but they had forgotten to bring any bread. 6And Jesus said to them, “Watch out and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees.” 7They began to discuss this among themselves, saying, “He said that because we did not bring any bread.” 8But Jesus, aware of this, said, “You men of little faith, why do you discuss among yourselves that you have no bread? 9“Do you not yet understand or remember the five loaves of the five thousand, and how many baskets full you picked up? 10“Or the seven loaves of the four thousand, and how many large baskets full you picked up? 11“How is it that you do not understand that I did not speak to you concerning bread? But beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees.” 12Then they understood that He did not say to beware of the leaven of bread, but of the teaching of the Pharisees and Sadducees.

>>135434997
yes, the whore of babylon has many bastard daughters.

>>135435111
I can't stand hypocrites like you. If you have a cross on your chest or in your home you can't say anything about orthodoxy "icons". We pray to God just like you. We have pictures of saints in our churches just like you. I swear the icon shit talk coming from all other churches is prove that they know nothing of orthodoxy.

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>>135435520
>when the catholic church burns joan of arc for being a heretic. and you have the nerve to post her image and say the catholic church follows the bible

and yeah, i guess they do follow the bible in their own way, see pic.

>>135435442

I'm not making a claim here. You're saying that every apostle must be personally appointed by Jesus but that's not what the text says at all.

>>135433982
Except women

>>135435684
>when you believe enlightenment atheist memes
She was burned by the english army.

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>>135435580
>Still can't answer the question.

Where does it say in the Bible that the Bible is the sole rule of Faith??

Answer it, or admit to being the liar you're showing yourself for.

>>135435687
Apostles are those selected to receive the holy spirit as tounges of fire.

>>135435687
Then how can you become an apostle, might I ask?

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>>135418102
Orthodox is literally flawless.
Catholicism cucked.
Evangelicals are pro-Israel.
Christianity is utterly neutral.
Lutheranism is divide and conquer.

>>135434997
Not a Prot

>>135435968

Perhaps a current apostle could appoint a new one, like in Acts 1: 16-17, 26 where the apostles choose a successor after Judas' death.

>>135435527
>It's not like I haven't confessed every sin
Liar. You sin everyday without knowing it. You sin by calling yoyr priest "father". You sin by praying to Mary as an mediator.
>For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

>>135435968
>>135436167

Or better yet in Acts 14:21, 23

“When they had preached the gospel to that city and had made many disciples, they returned to Lystra and to Ico’nium and to Antioch… And when they had appointed elders for them in every church…”

>>135435684
>Roman Catholics burned Joan
it was the English after being captured
>

>>135435403

and where does it say the bible is the only word of God? or that God can no longer speak? In your arrogance you have gagged God and think he is forever silent.

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>>135435520

>>135435778
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_of_Joan_of_Arc
>when you do a 10 page report on joan of arc in G.A.T.E. and did extensive research into her trial in the 5th grade, and one of the charges against her heresies was claiming God was speaking to her. and the one who interrogated her was appointed by the Pope of Rome.

>>135436132
So what are you then?

>>135435622
>If you have a cross on your chest or in your home you can't say anything about orthodoxy "icons". We pray to God just like you. We have pictures of saints in our churches just like you.
I/we have neither.
My mother has crosses because she was raised Catholic, and your idolatry is engrained into the culture.

You pray to saints and to Mary. That is an abomination.

>>135436301
ok, who was her inquisitor? and by whose authority was this cardinal appointed?

>>135435022
Most here dont speak greek or russian, understanding helps greatly.
>>135435360
Youre the only sane monastic here in this thread. Peace be with you.

>>135419417
The number 144,000 I'm pretty sure represents completion, and I don't think it should be taken literally.

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>>135436435
>Extensive research
>In the 5th grade

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>>135436058
This

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>>135418102
The original ones. Catholics and orthodoxes.
The rest is pure kikery and heresy.

>>135435826
>Where does it say in the Bible that the Bible is the sole rule of Faith??
I thought I told you to take an ESL course, Paco.
>So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

>>135436167
Uhm, it says in Acts 1:22 that an apostle has to be a witness of his resurrection. Stop twisting scripture here. You are no apostle.

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>>135435826
and I told you, its in matthew 16, it tells you to not take teachings of pharisees and sadducees .

they corrupt the teachings of the scripture, which is what the catholic church does.

>>135436058
>using a cross to ward off jews and vampires
>not a pagan idolator
You may choose one.

>>135432448

Darn it i have been reading the bible for years and only a while back i understood that the key part is the guide to heaven trough the faith of jesus christ

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>>135436651
you've said a lot of bullshit in order to dodge answering the question.

>Where does it say in the Bible that the Bible is the sole rule of Faith??

Still waiting though.

>>135435622
A tent in a jungle is as suitable for a house of worship as an orthodox church filled with gold icons, holy relics, and priceless art.

>>135436574
>10 page report for G.A.T.E.
i guess it was 20 because i used both sides of the paper.

>>135436626
This, except remove Catholics

>>135436626
>>135432802
>>mfw catholics removed 14 books from the bible in 1684 and heavily edited daniel and esther, and doesn't have the integrity to acknowledge it.

>>135436574
Tbh a 5th grader in GATE is more intelligent than most of pol.
>t.GATE survivor

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This does not at all answer the question:
>Where does it say in the Bible that the Bible is the sole rule of Faith??

Still waiting.

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>>135437020
Still can't provide a source.

>>135436543
I don't understand greek and prefer it over english liturgies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVNmXFdo0Fc&

>>135436919
>you've said a lot of bullshit in order to dodge answering the question.
You're calling scripture bullshit.

I'd knock your teeth out in person, but I wont have to, you'll get what's coming to you.

Literalists. The bible is to be taken literally unless common sense dictates otherwise.

Nothing is beyond God's ability.

>>135436543
well...thank you

>>135437046
Matthew 16:1-12

I know catholics can't read the bible because its heresy, but just try your best.

the word of God is often referred to as bread. teachings that come from outside the bible are leaven, the catholic teachings are the equivalent to the bible as the Talmud is to the Old Testament.

funny enough there's this thing called Karaite Judaism, which reject the Talmud, and are old testament only, this movement is called heretical by the orthodox, hasedic, and ultra-orthodox jews.

this ironically sounds exactly like Catholicism.