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How come Turks aren't Asian anymore?

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>>135406657
They got browned
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>>135406853
When, how, by whom?
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>>135406657
except if you ever meet a turkish person, they look nothing like those on the pictures
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>>135407005
They look like what then?
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Any Turks wanna answer?
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>>135406657
Mandela effect.
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>>135407459
Wtf does that have to do with this

SOMEONE ANSWER
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Because they race mixed for decades and have only a small amount of Turkic DNA left

t. Half Turk (Tatar) half Greek
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>>135407757
Who are they mixed with the most, DNA wise? Armenians? Anatolians? Arabs?
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>>135407060
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLBHxssv_sE
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A better question would be why do they cluster so close to Armenians but so far away from Greeks?
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False premise
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Anatolians who spoke greek and thought themselves as roman gradually converted and start speak turkish and now consist most of turkeys population

The question to be asked is who the fuck are alevi
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>>135407905
Anatolians i think depends where in turkey in eastern part more Armenians Kurds and arabs
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>>135406657
because of your cherrypicking
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>>135408094
I think it's because Anatolian Natives were closely related to Armenians.
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>>135408274
What do Turks look like then?
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>>135407005
haha you niggas think everyone looks beautiful and shit genes are more diverse ffs
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>>135408671
Are Bulgarians Turkic?
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>>135408431
Far more Middle Eastern
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turks are nigger scum
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>>135406657
>How come Turks aren't Asian anymore?

Because Turkey is a European country.

End of thread.
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>>135408948
This is what Turks actually look like.
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In the past we didn't really have demographic invasions but militaristic ones
Turks are mostly anatolian just like spaniards are basically iberians
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>>135409421
Aren't Iberians Celtics?
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>>135406657
Alright, that image makes it official. Greeks are white.
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>>135409602
Greek women look cute.
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>>135406657
only the leaders were asian. the proletariat was anatolian
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>>135406657
Turks are mutts. They are a mix of native Anatolians(indo-european people), Greeks, Iranians, Arabs and Turkic people. And even some Slavic blood, from slavery.
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>>135409543
no
in the peninsula there were three families of diferent tribes each
cels in the west, celtiberians in the middle and iberians in the east
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I guess Europeans came to their country, although the third guy looks at least half-grook, LoL.
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>>135408739
no we are slavic and we hate the turks
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>>135410245
But they are related to Armenians more than any other ethnicity. How come?
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>>135410379
So who has Celtic DNA and who doesn't?
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>>135410410
It's vice versa.
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>>135410412
But aren't the original Bulgars Turkic/Iranic?
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>>135410645
portuguese, galicians, leon and asturians are more celtic
catalans (including the balearic islands and valencia) are iberian
castillans are both
but of course with the romanization these lines became blurred
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>>135406657
Turks are all mixed with Kurds, Persians, Arabs, Greeks, Armenians and Assyrians that they developed this look.
Millions of Turks are just Greco-Armenian rapebabies, directly or passively.

The Turkic Sultans for Example are Turkmens, they heavly mixed, or better said only mixed with Balkan and Caucasus women.

Interestingly the People of the Levante and Mesopotamia heavily mixed with the Seljuks and partially Mongols and Armenians, earlier Greeks and Persians, so that it Comes out they just look the same as Turks, or almost.
You will only find pure Arabs in Saudi Arabia, South and North African Arabs are mostly either didndu or Berber mixed.
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>>135406657
Some million of them are Albanians and Bosnians.
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>>135406657

They aren't people.

>>135407757

>Says he's turk
>german flag

Please kill yourself and take as many Germans as possible with you.
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>>135411140
My Armenian grandmother (rip) would gladly spit in a Turks face. She was a master sergeant and didn't take shit from nobody.
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Because islam prevents strong nationalisic sentiments so all the arab and somalians mudslimes migrated in anatolia during the ottoman empire. Turkey is the image of what is to came to europe.
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>>135406657
>Turks are literally a cucked society.
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>>135406657

Turkish people are actually Greeks who were forced to speak the Turkish language and forced to convert to Islam. REAL Turkic people look like the average Chinese person. Pic related.

Turkish =/= Turkic

>>135410013

I completely agree with you.
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Only coastal anatolia was hellenic, the interior had more diverse tribes.
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>>135411902
Turks started mixing with Scythians, and other Iranic people, around 2000 years ago. Now you can't find any pure Turks unless you look at Eastern Russia.
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>>135412104
Like?
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>>135411705
That's exactly it. Turkey is what all of Europe will eventually look like. It's sad. I'm raising my sons to steer clear. I'm slightly conflicted cus I want my boys to have a good wife, but American girls are all fairly dummies. Which euro country should I send my boys to for a good wife? /pol/ help an oldfag here
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>>135412152

There is a difference between Turkic people and Turkish people.
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>>135412277
I know. Pure Turkic people are almost extinct.
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>>135412210
Australia. Europe is dead unless you try to go for Eastern Europe or Armenia.
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>>135406657
Nice cherry picking on Armenians. This is what they actually look like
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>>135406657
First Turkic people invaded central asia, then Iran, then Anatolia. By that point they were a small Aryanized elite ruling over peasants who mostly spoke Greek. These peasants converted to Islam to avoid paying jizya and gradually adopted the language of the conquerors. When Ataturk came to power he stamped out non-Turkish languages and pushed all the Muslim peoples of Anatolia- Greeks, Circassians, Albanians, Armenians, even Kurds to adopt the Turkish identity of the elites (even though the elites were mostly Turkish-speaking Greeks rather than actual Turks).

In the modern era there are a few chinky turks like that one shitposter who are butthurt because actual Turks are a dying breed in Turkey, being bred out by the retarded Turkish-speaking Greek Muslims that populate most of Turkey.

Needless to say Turkey is a joke of a country.
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>>135411442
>muh heritage
>t. American

There are an estimated 5 million Turks of primarily Armenian descent living in Eastern Turkey who converted to Islam to avoid being genocided 100 years ago.
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>>135412516
Can you explain to us why Turks are more closely related to Armenians than anybody else?
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>>135412188
Celts like galatians, thracians like bythinia, mix of thracians and other tribes like phrygians, lydians and hittites.
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>>135412666
That was many years back.
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>>135406657
Greeks are genetically spearated from turks.
Greeks are closer to italians.
while turks are closer to kurdish and iranians
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>>135412808
Sauce
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>>135412437
Armenians are honorary, for their fight against islam.
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>>135412437
I included the old man for a reason.
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>>135412913
They are literally Christcucks. Fuck Nathaniel and Thaddeus.
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>>135412892
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>>135412660
Because 6000 years ago the Urartian civilization occupied most of anatolia and the armenian highlands. Urartu is where the word "ararat" for mount ararat comes from and the urartu civilization is from where the Armenians got their own culture and civilization when the Indo-European ancestors of the Armenians conquered the Urartians.
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>>135413037
>>135413092
Is this because Turks are related to Scythians?
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>>135410379
>>135410894
Do not Forget that there were Turdetanians in the South, I know they were also Celtoiberians, but they were somewhat different.
Also, on the south and west coast and the Balearic Islands the Phonecians and Greeks settled.
>>135408739
>>135410823
Yes they are originally a Turkic tribe, they even settled near Kashmir and the Hindukush and mixed with some Iranic tribes.
They then advanced to Southern Russia and Ukraine and then settled in the Balkans, on their way they mixed with East Slavs, South Slavs, Thracians, lllyrians, Greeks and Romans.
At first they were lead by a Khan.

But they are not that much related to the Rum and Seljuk Turks that inhabit Turkey

>>135408201
Alevites look quite beautiful, at least the women. They have pale Skin and dark eyes and hair. I guess they are more Iranic.
>>135410553
>>135408094
It is beause the Armenians inhabitated most of Anatolia together with Greeks, many Greeks had to flee, but in Armenian territories Turks settled first and also, the Armenians couldn't flee, because the other side of the Caucasus was filled with Azeri Turks.
They raped,enslaved and married many of them, in the Armenian Genocide, some hundred thousand Armenians were forced to convert to Islam and be turkish, just like the time when Turks reached Eastern Anatolia, they had to have some foothold and base for further expansions in the Region.
Basically everything they settled in was Armenian, as said Greeks fled to Europe.
>>135407459
>>135409070
Could actually be right, they fucked their nigger slaves
>>135407742
Jokes
>>135407905
Mostly Armenians, after that Assyrians,Indo-Iranic peoples and Greeks.
>>135408141
You'll get a KeK good sir.
>>135409125
This
>>135410013
Yes they do. Also Greek has the second most amount of sex nd 66% of the popuation are female, the more you know.
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>>135413395
What does that have to do with Turks being related to Armenians? Or do you mean to tell me that the Indo-European Armenians were related to the Indo-European Anatolians?
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>>135412437
>>135412913
They look like roma gypsies
>honorary
Nothing honorary about these thugs... over the wall they all go
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>>135412746
No, it wasn`t. They were conquered by romans, not the greeks and they were under pax romana. When the eastern roman empire became more helenized they were increasingly more marginalized just like in the balkans where the thraco-daco-roman populatians separated from greeks joining the slavs or continuing as vlachs. Thats why the Byzantine empire crashed, because it was no longer roman(universal) and the major of the population wasn`t willing to fight for the greeks
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>>135408141
kek'd so hard

thanks
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>>135413037
>>135413092
How are there still people who think Armenians are white Europeans lmao
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>>135412746
They were assimiliated and were Greeks (Or Romans if you follow names of that period in Byzantium, they even had some Roman blood), but their DNA was still existant.
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We got Greek'd
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>>135413724
They are Indo-European.
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>>135412104
Those tribes were replaced by Greeks literally.
Pic related. Central Anatolians also have Greek dna.

Also i know who op is. He's that underage butthurt amerifat that i set his tiny anus on fire.
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>>135408948
>>135408948
That's a rare pepe
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>>135413724
They are a mix of Indo-European and Caucasic peoples, that's it, their Country barely is in Europe geographically.
>>135413532
Yes they were related obviously, Anatolians were People like Hittities etc.
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>>135413620
So I have looked into Roman dacia, and they only held half of dacia and only for one or two hundred years.

How did the dacians become Romanians, the only Latin speakers in Eastern Europe?
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>>135411902
You're literally a retarded nigger if you compare a Tuvan shaman to a Turk. Tuvans are even more Turkic than all Central Asians you literally retarded faggot.

>>135413952
Forgot pic.
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>>135413952
When did you set my anus on fire?
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>>135413561
I think we can all agree that many Armenians are too Close to (((them))) and some like the (((Kardashians))) should have been killed in the Armenian Genocide.
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>>135408201
I love when Greeks talk about genetics. You barely know anything about genetics at all.
We have no connection to actual Anatolians.
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>>135413952

Yes, they all commited seppuku, then milions of greeks refugees migrated from alfa centauri. Populations don`t dissapear by the millions just like that, i thought we agreed of this after holohoax.
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>>135414143
Last week when you bought a Kebab made out of his spicy cow meat.
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>>135414241
Jews hate Armenians and side with Turks.
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>>135408431
roaches
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>>135406657
ottoman empire became a melting pot just like whole messapotamia
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>>135414143
Come on fatty. Stop pretending to be someone else. If you're going to be butthurt at least try to not reveal your flag :DDDD
>>135414347
>Gypsy screeching
Explain why central anatolians >>135414092 have Greek dna instead of Anatolian or Armenian dna then.
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>>135414445
No, I mean like when did we meet? You might be confusing me with someone else, but maybe you're right.
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>>135406883
they never were. they're greeks who became so infatuated with asiatic peoples that they took on their culture, religion and language and convinced themselves that they are relatives of the mongols. It's literally weeb: the country
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>>135414397
This is true. Also the Ottoman empire became a holding zone for muslim groups who fled/expelled from Imperial Russia, like the Cirassians and the Tatars.
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>>135411902
eastern turkey is actually western greece but since the revolution was only partly successful and erdogan wants more
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>>135406657
Racemixing for lots of centuries. Not intentional racemixing, though. They simply stand between Europe and Asia. Lots of greek influence in the west, lots of turkic influence from the east and lots of arab influence from the south.
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>>135414053
They Romanized quickly and then retreated into the mountains, were their culture remained isolated and conserved.
Later Goths,Bulgars and others ruled over Wallachia,Moldova,Bessarabia,Dobrudja and Bukowina.
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>>135414549
*yawns*
going to make hundreds of amerimutt hate threads and all of them will get 300+ replies :DDD
>>135414607
Turks from Western Turkey and Eastern Turkey are almost the same.
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>>135414368
I know, but I spoke of that one Special minority.
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>>135414592
yes , we rounded up everyone who was an enemy to europe in order to keep our stranglehold
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>>135412808
>greeks are closer to italians
>italian dna actually greek
wut
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>>135414699
I want to know if it was really me. What were we talking about?
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>>135413939
Only linguistically. They cluster genetically with Semites. See >>135413037 >>135413092


>>135414009
Their Indo-European admixture is negligible
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>>135410553
Armenians are mutts mixed with Iranians, Arabs, Turkic people too.
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>>135413491
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>>135414316
yes you do you weeb faggot
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>>135414788
I was talking about your whore mother's pussy obviously.
Stop replying to me, disgusting amerimutt.
>>135414856
Armenians never mixed with Turkics or Arabs lmao
Maybe Persians.
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>>135413952
go back to mongolia fucking roach
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>>135406657
They're not Turks, they are Anatolians, Greeks and Levantines pretending to be Turks.
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>>135414895
>Yeah you do
LOL
Please talk more and stop hiding behind a meme flag, i know you're either a bakanrapebaby or an amerimutt.
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>>135414846
They cluster near Iranians/Caucasians and Assyrians.
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>>135406657
We fucked dead kike on a stick worshippers so much that we look like Greeks.
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>>135414699
>Turks from Western Turkey and Eastern Turkey are almost the same.

I'd say that is because people usually move within the country, mixing genes even more. Not trying to disrupt your point but, maybe I am not that wrong either (!?)
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>>135414980
If we're indeed not Turks, explain those pictures >>135414092 >>135413772
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>>135414872
I will today out of my personal autism create a new meme that no one cares about:
"Fags that do not want to read Posts that go longer than 1/2 sentence because their brain capacity and Patience is crappy"
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>>135414998
>t. brown hairy greek larping as a fareast steppeherder
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>>135414053

Religion mostly, as the christianity spread the it introduced the latin as church language, mixing it with the local dialects. Like the arab language with islam, religions has a big impact on the culture of a grup of peoples.

Also, south of danube were also dacian provincies, sometimes called moesia, sometimes dacia. They were also thracians that adopted latin and later christianity.
Thats why even if we don`t speak the same language many serbs and bulgarians are our brothers.
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>>135412600
My grandmother was smuggled out of Armenia as a child to France. She was then shipped over to America via the Eastern Orthodox Church. She then married into a family with English roots. So I have a strong British family tree and name but I look traditionally Armenian (dark haired Greek looking). I'm usually accepted into Iranian and Greek circles but they know I'm a third generation who is American more than anything. But I bring plenty of homemade baclava to parties that grandma taught me how to make. Armenian women all want me to come back to their fold and bring my blue eyed boys with me, but I don't want my grand babies to keep inheriting short aremenian genes ;)
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>>135415104
>Get rekt
>Greentext out of butthurt
winning arguments against retards is easy.
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>>135414921
Why the fuck are you so butthurt over a simple question? I was serious and was not trying to get you mad wtf.
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>>135414921
go take a walk in the desert you autistic mongoloid
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>>135406657
Yeah nigga, just pick beautiful people for the pics, cuz fuck ugly faggots kill them all
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>>135415071
He meant to say Turkic.
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>>135406657
>invade territory between Arab mudskins and white lands
>become a mixture of both

Ultimately, it does explain the Ottomans however. They gained the intelligence of white people while retaining the hedonistic decadent retardation of the muzzies. So they were able to easily conquer the Arab world and then proceeded to fuck men for several hundred years.
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>>135415071
Your ruler elites were Turk but got outbreeded and all real Turks were killed over the centuries or they migrated out of the Region.
A possible theory.
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>>135415197
>expecting anything else from roaches
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>>135415194
>posts info that plainly states turks aren't turkic
>lel u got rekt
brown hairy greek gets lots of shitballs stuck in his brown hairy asshole and has his oil wrestling buddy pull on it just like his "mongol" ancestors
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>>135415319
We do have a considerable Turkic heritage too ranging from 25% to 50% (however, Mongoloid dna ranges from 5% to 25%)
>>135415361
That does not explain a shit.
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>>135415234
Turks can't be autistic, only real Europeans and Asians.
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>>135415413
>posts info that plainly states turks aren't turkic
:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Are you actually retarded or something like that?
You said we're Anatolian, yet we're actually related to a central asian people that formed Seljuks more than to the Ancient Anatolians themselves
Tell me, are you an amerimutt or a balkanrapebaby? Your iq seems to be extremely low so you could be either.
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>>135415437
fair point mr denbt collecting kraut
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>>135415491
where do you think North West asia is slick? (hint: stars with "ana" and ends in "tolia"
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>>135415491
you are mongoloids who went to western Greece and said this is mine
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Turks are subhuman nigger scum who rape and chimp out like coons when things don't go their way. They all need to be exterminated.
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>>135415042
Why do Armenians think they're Europeans?
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>>135415247
Merve Boloğur and Hande Erçel are so cute.
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>>135415510
Thanks based Australian
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>>135413724
Because I don't look like either of those fuckers. I got mixed English genes. If I looked like those dudes I would kill myself. I got lucky.
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>>135415361

When a foreign invader ocupies a piece of land, he must also be the one to defend it. So while the original turks were slaughtered by peoples like Tepes, the ones that were under ocupation continued to reproduce. Soon the turkic peoples were no more and they were replaced by those who converted to islam afterwads.
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>>135413398
Scythians were Caucasians, not Mongoloid
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>>135415611
I heard that theory for the first time
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>>135415791
>Gypsyoid screeching
I loved the theory of your irrelevant local lunatic genociding all ""turkics"" (even though an average turk has 25% to 50% c. asian heritage according to my pics) :DDD
Why are rapebabies always retarded?
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>>135415611
Because they are partially Indo-European.
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>>135414368
That's because Armenians can spot Turks and Jews and can identify them for what they are. Jews don't like being called Jews
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>>135415611
Because they are Christian.

The borders of Europe are defined by Christendom as much as geography.
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>>135415806
Ara, I meant that Turks got mixed with Caucasians by mixing with Scythians.
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>>135415791
Yes thanks my orthodox brother.
Same shit with the Balkanrapebaby-idea:
If the Turks raped half of a Balkan countries women, let's say Serbia, then every third was aborted, the other third identified himself as Turk or was considered so and died as Janichar or was expelled, the last third died in the Balkan Wars and both World wars or the Yugoslavian civil war.

>>135415806
>>135413398
Yes, the Scythians and Sarmartians were the ones who would become the Ossetians, Turks are even more closely related to Russians.
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Turkic history and genetic pro here, i'll answer
Turks descended from Turkmens since they're Oghuz. And most of Turkmens do not look like Asians in general because they mixed with Persians/Iranians for centuries. Then Turkmens migrated to Anatolia and mixed with Greeks/Armenians there. They became Turks. I've personally seen some very asiatic looking Turks, but most look like a mix of Caucasians, Meds and Southern Central Asians.
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>>135416349
Why are they so closely related to Armenians out of all people in the world?
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>>135416428
Except that they're not. Turks are mostly related to Northern Caucasian Turkics and Azeris.
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>>135416509
Sauce?
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>>135415949
Erdogan voter spotted, call in airstrike
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>>135415949

As usually the turk can`t debate like a normal persons so he starts screeching.

Actually the turkey has 24% middle eastern j2, 9% arabic j1 and 11% north african E1b. While all the european lineages are under 30% in total.

Certainly not white peoples.
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>>135416634
Logic and Wikipedia
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>>135416703
J2 is northern Middle East, J1 is Semitic
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If you want to see this Kebab live again, autisticly screach or write "Kosovo is Serbia"!!!
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>>135416703
>MUH HAPLOGROUPS
Explain why Kyrgyzes have 70%+ R1a haplogroup yet look nothing like Russians or Slavs.
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>>135416060
>Cluster with Semites
>Indo-Europeans

No, sweetie
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remember that the Turks wrote in runes before converting.

. the Asian looking "Turkic" is the eastern gök-turk empire, they made the chines,Koreans and japans white. and it goes 2 ways..


german,slav and turk are are grandchildren to a yet unidentified empire that wrote in runes and had a griffin as there shield of coat. the runes are so much older then the vikings, but you fags dont have the time to look into it


and when it comes to your "white" greeks. pic related
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>>135417102
Look at their language or check wiktionary.com
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>>135417024
Scythians?
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>>135416970

You have to explain it to them in simple terms.

>>135416985

Kosovo je Srbija!
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>>135417212
Scythians are not related to Kyrgyzes genetically. Kyrgyzes are also over 70% Mongoloid.
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>>135417295
Who are the most Turkic/Mongoloid of all Turks? Yakut?
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>>135417393
yes
unlike other turkics they never interacted with other people.
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>>135417024
Also, R comes from Q, if I remember correctly, and Q is from Central Asia. R1a are folks who migrated north of the Caspian, and R1b are folks who migrated South of the Caspian.
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>135417024
Haplogroups needn't have influence on that, still look at the different men, right is Bashkir,left is Tatar,middle is Kirgis.
In fact Mongoloid genes mostly dominate, most Kirgise look like a Russian with Korean Cousin and Grandfather, or at least like Mongol-Slav-Mixed
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>>135417496
Again, haplogroups are pretty irrelevant.
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>>135417475
That's where I got those "Turkic people" pictures. Yakut seem nice.
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>>135417174
Genetics >>Linguistics

Genetics shows that Armenians cluster with non-Indo-European Turks, Assyrians and Georgians.
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>>135417153
Yeah I think the Uralic-Altaic Lingual similarities and Hunnic invasions should have made it clear.
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>>135417690
armenians don't cluster with us see >>135413037
our closest relatives are some Adygheis who happened to be mixed with Turkics
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>>135406657
Turks are genetically indistinguishable from Armenians. No one is really sure why, but the obvious explanation is that the Turkish invasion of Anatolia was much smaller than historically reported and probably only had a small number of ethnic Turks, primarily in the ruling classes.
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>>135417024

Happa boys. The males took asian women in their harems so the offspring are happa boys even if they maintain their fathers lineage. Same with the ``aryans`` from india. The lineage of the ruling class was preserved while in turkey it was impaled.
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>>135417823
wrong
see >>135414092 >>135413772
elite domination theory was debunked a long time ago, fatty.
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>>135417690
They are Caucasians/Anatolians/Mesopotamians who mixed with Indo-Europeans.
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>>135417823

It was just 10-15% of the population of anatolia at that time. But they were migratory tribes, more walike and less ocupied with sowing th fields so they prevail. Thats why muslim migration is so dangerous today with all the cucks.
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>>135417844
kyrgyz people are not hapa.
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>>135406657
They used to be Asian. They became caucasoid by intermarrying with Arabs and raping white women who they took as slaves and concubines. Most of them still don't look white, and I don't see any basis for considering them so as at best they might have 25% European DNA, and they still speak their Mongoloid steppe language.

They are an enemy squatting in our territory, and Germans were stupid and criminal for allowing them access to more of Europe.
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>>135418118
If I remember correctly, only 250k Turks migrated to Anatolia in the 11th century.
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>>135418386
Wrong. Also migration to anatolia didn't happen in one day. It took 200 years plus mongol invasion.
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>>135418245

It clearly states there that they are East eurasians with R1a lineages. Thats what happa means! East asia + european male lineage.
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>>135418549
Hapa: 50% Asian 50% European
Kyrgyz: 70+% Asian 20-30% European
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>>135418344
Russians should have finished the job.
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>>135406657
Muslims. 2000 years ago. No shit. The asian was bread out of them.
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>>135418386

Yes, and a migratory tribe can mobilize up to 15% of their population for war, while a sedentary population rarely reaches 10%.
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>>135418344
It weren't we Germans, the Anglo-Jew-Mason World Mafia aka the US goverment, cucked us completely after WW2.
What you speak of is a Polish meme, Merkel is doing it in Isreals interest, she executes the Houton-Plan, the plan that should destroy and remove German blood with Africans,Turco-Arab People and others.
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>>135418610
What's the European? Iranic? Slavic?
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>>135418796
Most likely Iranic.
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>>135418610

But the lineage are european. You have one european male mate with an asian waifu. His son also with an asian waifu. Soon he has more asian blood in him even if his ancestors were aryans maybe.
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>>135418344
As an angle proclaimed: "Anatolia is going to be Greek again, of the Turks, 1/3 will be killed, 1/3 will convert to the true orthodox faith and the other 1/3 will return to it's ancenstral Homelands"
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>>135418958
And Greco-Armenian
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>>135419047
Aren't you Serbian and Greek from /ic/ and /hist/?
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>>135419123
Kyrgyzis? Lol
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>>135419188 I thought he meant normal Turks by Happa.
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>>135419047

The way things go with erdogan we won`t have to wait too long. They already isolated themselves while they step on both american and russian nerves. Soon the war could start in midle east betwen turks, kurds and syrians.
Israel doesn`t wants assad to win so the war must go on.
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>>135419145
Nope, I only was in /hist/ 2 times, even if I really should go there more often.
I am Serb and German(That autistic guy mostly debatting with Poles and Turks,look at my Name,maybe you'll recognize me), but Greeks are awesome People for me of Course.
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>>135419575
>>135419509
When will Turks be the minority in Turkey due to Kurdish birth rates?
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What's going on in this thread infidels?
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>>135420207
Explain to us about Turkish history.
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>>135419999

Don`t forget about the millions of refugees that are also in turkey, many of them being kurds.
Also iran has a big kurdish population and as turkey`s regional rival they can arm them and send them acros the border.
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>>135419509
Invading Syria was a bad idea anyway, Turkish Forces rely on mass infantry, air defence and quick motorised Units wth some tanks mixed into that, they Support IS and Assad is going to be angry at them when they meet each other after a breakthrough of the SAA through the FSA lines and reach the Turks.
Also do not Forget the economic part: Turkey is based on Atatürks Reforms that are orieantated almost exclusively on German ideas and Turkey relies on German-EU Money.

Half of Turkey is unemployed, literally, Kurdistan is useless due to constant bombardment and skirmishes, rural Areas are shitholes,youth flees,refugees do illegal work,Islamists spread and Banking dies slowly, China doesn't give a fuck and Iran and Saudi-Arabia wait to eat some Turkey.

Greece has a female Population of 66% and 2nd most sex in the world, economy is shitty, if based Religious-Orthodox-Nationalists take power, Greek Population will explode, EU will be left, Anatolia be swarmed, Balkan People will copy this System.
Army will rise in Quality and numbers,Russia will be an ally,economy will boom through some Exports with cheap currency, future re-selfemployed workers and second biggest trade fleet, the Turks will die.
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>>135420709
Aren't Kurds going to be the majority in 30 years?
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>>135406657
Because the population of Turkey are Anatolian mystery meat LARPIng as Turkics

>According to Cinnioglu et al. (2004), the major components of Y-DNA haplogroups present in Turkey (E3b, G, J, I, L, N, K2, and R1; 94.1%) are shared with European and neighboring Near Eastern populations. Minor share of haplogroups also include those related to Central Asian (C, Q and O; 3.4%), Indian (H, R2; 1.5%) and African (A, E3*, E3a; 1%) affinity.

>Autosomal studies with recent methodology estimate the Central Asian contribution in Turkish people at 13-15%[1][2][3] noting that results may indicate previous population movements (e.g. migration, admixture) or genetic drift, given the fact that Europe and South Asia have some genetic relatedness.

>An autosomal study on Turkish genetics (on 16 individuals) predicted that the weight of Central Asian migration legacy of the Turkish people is estimated at 21.7%.

>Several studies have concluded that the genetic haplogroups indigenous to Western Asia have the largest share in the gene pool of the present-day Turkish population
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>>135419999
They won't, but Kurds will be absolute and sole majority in all territorries they inhabit now, going until shortly before Ankara, also Istanbul Diaspora will increase, just like the Diaspora in Germany and France.
>>135420207
Going on is the intellectual rebirth of Byzantium and plans to restore glory beeing against your childfucking,massacring (((Prophet))).
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>>135421108
See >>135415416 >>135414092 >>135413772
also
>CITING WIKIPEDIA AS A SOURCE
KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK
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>>135406657
Because the Central Asians who conquered Anatolia were small in number in comparison to the population they conquered. It's the same reason why the Normans left an even smaller genetic imprint upon the UK. Bands of warrior elites conquered and ruled over significantly larger groups of peasants.
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>>135421060
Maybe, but before that they'll be Independent and Greece will also do it's part on Population exansion.
By the way, I admire your thirst for Knowledge.
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>>135421233
See links there >>135421207

Why do you fatties always talk out of your asses? Are you actually retarded
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>>135421113
So Turks will flee to Europe after Turkey falls?
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>>135421207
You do realize that you can literally look at the source at the bottom of the page right? Screaming """MUH WIKIPEDIA"""" is not an argument my dear anatolian rapebaby friend
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>>135421207
Pah!
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>>135421113

“When you hear that the Russians have captured the city of Crimea, you should know that the times of the Messiah have started, that his steps are being heard. And when you hear that the Russians have reached the city of Constantinople, you should put on your Shabbat (Sabbath) clothes and don’t take them off, because it means that the Messiah is about to come any minute.”

Jewish plans for turkey aren`t very bright.
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>>135421418
>Hurr durr ur le anatolian
see >>135414998

Also wikipedia is a shit tier source. There's a reason why no one takes it seriously. My retarded subhuman friend.
Are you an Amerimutt by the way? You're as retarded as an Amerimutt.
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>>135421303
If you constantly repeat such a question I bet you are not enjoying a high IQ.
Still there are other sourcess than yours, just to mention.
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>>135413772
>no, no, no those studies with N > 1 are not accurate. Let me just post the DNA results of some random dude. That is much more accurate
pathetic
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>>135421236
Thank you. Tell me more, my Serbo-German friend.
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>>135421543
>Also wikipedia is a shit tier source. There's a reason why no one takes it seriously.
Again, not an argument. Prove it wrong. I cited studies. No amount of your butthurt changes that. All you do is talk

>Are you an Amerimutt by the way? You're as retarded as an Amerimutt.
>HURR DURR U R AMERICAN???.
Again, not an argument.
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>>135421207


Eupedia Home > Genetics > Haplogroups (home) > Haplogroup J2
Haplogroup J2 (Y-DNA)
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Haplogroup J2 (Y-DNA) - Eupedia

Author: Maciamo Hay.
Last update May 2017 (updated history)
Contents

1. Origins

2. Geographic distribution

3. Phylogeny

4. History

4.1 Mediterranean J2a

4.2 Roman J2a-Z435

4.3 Central Asian & Indian J2a

4.4 J2b2-L283 & the Indo-Europeans

4.4 West Asian and South Asian J2b2-Z2432

5. Famous J2 individuals
Origins

Haplogroup J2 is thought to have appeared somewhere in the Middle East towards the end of the last glaciation, between 15,000 and 22,000 years ago. The oldest known J2a samples at present were identified in remains from the Hotu Cave in northern Iran, dating from 9100-8600 BCE (Lazaridis et al. 2016), and from Kotias Klde in Georgia, dating from 7940-7600 BCE (Jones et al. (2015)). This confirms that haplogroup J2 was already found around the Caucasus and the southern Caspian region during the Mesolithic period. The first appearance of J2 during the Neolithic came in the form of a 10,000 year-old J2b sample from Tepe Abdul Hosein in north-western Iran in what was then the Pre-Pottery Neolithic (Broushaki et al. 2016).

Notwithstanding its strong presence in West Asia today, haplogroup J2 does not seem to have been one of the principal lineages associated with the rise and diffusion of cereal farming from the Fertile Crescent and Anatolia to Europe. It is likely that J2 men had settled over most of Anatolia, the South Caucasus and Iran by the end of the Last Glaciation 12,000 years ago. It is possible that J2 hunter-gatherers then goat/sheep herders also lived in the Fertile Crescent during the Neolithic period.


Well well well...
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>>135421363
I donot think so, because when that happens Europe will already be reactionary.
If not, then this huge Invasion will make Europe reactionary.
And because of that, just in like in the angle-prophecy, they will have to flee to Central Asia, probably they'll build their own republic.
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>>135421527
Noice
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>>135421546
>Be a retarded subhuman with no genetic knowledge
>Try to talk
LEL
Do you have a problem with genetic websites? Complain to them. Also the Turk in that pic is mostly related to Turks from Western Turkey.
>>135421673
>Again, not an argument. Prove it wrong. I cited studies. No amount of your butthurt changes that. All you do is talk

I literally sticked all your proofs up your ass by posting actual genetic studies.
You said we're Anatolian, yet we're genetically more related to actual Turkmens than to Ancient Anatolians
You posted a haplogroup study, and haplogroups are useless when it comes to actual genetics. There's a reason why Kyrgyz people mostly have R1a, and Uzbeks mostly have J2 yet they don't look like the people that haplogroups are supposed to represent
And that "central asian" study which says that we carry 21.7% c. asian dna actually means mongoloid dna instead of over all central asian dna as proven in my pics (turks in the pics are 13% to 22% asian yet get 25% to 50% central asian results) which also includes Iranic and ancient indo-european dna

>Not an Argument
stop hiding behind a flag then. why are you afraid?
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>>135414998
Also that ancient anatolian's genetic admixture if anyone's interested
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>>135422364
Why is it that some people in that region get Italian on their DNA test even though they are Anatolian?
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>>135421983

Your mutual dna with the central asians is exactly the R1a and the J2, and it`s because certain tribes moved from midlle east( j2) and north caucasus (R1a) in the central asian steepes.
As a conclusion, the modern turk is a person whose ancentors have been turkified, rather than being an original turks.
Friendly reminder that the greeks adapted in the otoman empire and after its collapse they migrated into greece. Millions of them.
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>>135418792
I'll agree with you that FDR's policies were a net-negative, but there is something seriously wrong with the bulk of Germans. Why would you ally with the Turks during WWI? While you were doing that, they were committing Genocide against the Armenians. Also, why did Hitler incorporate Muslim units? It just makes me sick, the idea of allying with Muslims against other white men. As for Merkel, how many times did your country vote for her? If you're a based German patriot you don't really have a true country anymore.
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>>135422750
>haplogroups
irrelevant
>>135422601
Well. Ancient Anatolians were mostly mediterranean people mixed with west asians to some extent. So it's not a surprise that they're close to Italians/Sardinians.
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>>135407757
small as in 3%
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>>135419047
I wish this would happen. I think part of the problem is that we are too cucked and PC to do what needs to be done. There is this prevalent idea in our governments that it's wrong to forcibly relocate people.
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>>135421983
>I literally sticked all your proofs up your ass by posting actual genetic studies.
You posted meme pictures. That isn't proof. Get over it. Cite studies or fuck off.

>And that "central asian" study which says that we carry 21.7% c. asian dna actually means mongoloid dna instead of over all central asian dna as proven in my pics (turks in the pics are 13% to 22% asian yet get 25% to 50% central asian results) which also includes Iranic and ancient indo-european dna
No it fucking doesn't. Jesus you are retarded.

>The number of subjects in the HGDP populations varies greatly. To avoid the effects of different sample sizes on comparisons of LD decay and haplotype diversity, populations from similar geographic regions were combined, and 48 subjects were selected for each group: Turkish (48), European (14 French, 12 Italian, 8 Tuscan, and 14 Sardinian), Middle Eastern (24 Druze and 24 Palestinian), Central Asian (22 Hazara, 10 Uygur, and 16 Kyrgyz), South Asian (8 Balochi, 8 Brahui, 8 Burusho, 8 Makrani, 8 Pathan, and 8 Sindhi), Northeast Asian (8 Mongola, 8 Tu, 8 Oroqen, 8 Xibo, 8 Daur, and 8 Hezhen), native American (7 Colombian, 8 Surui, 11 Karitiana, 11 Maya, and 11 Pima), and African (11 Bantu, 8 Biaka Pygmy, 8 Mbuti Pygmy, 8 Mandenka, 8 Yoruba, and 5 San).

Again, stop talking out of your ass. Post real proof or stop crying.

>>135422601. Because he is full of shit.
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>>135422930
read >>135421303
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>>135421593
Good, I think that the Iraqi civil war will continue, but not with IS, because the Moral and political Organisation still is not so broke that they would stop everything bombing their Country, but also the goverment is to weak to bring stability, maybe they will have a civil war between sunny Arabs and Kurds vs Shiites.

Syria will stay at war for at least 3 years, until the next American election.
Maybe the American goverment will try to end the war before that so they can have enough popularity to win again.

Independent from that, the longer the war goes, the more the Syrians wll rely on help from Russia and Iran, Iran will probably send more of it's air force, Russia will send more ground troops.
Anyway the Kurds are going to be important for the next 10 years and will organise themselves due to opression in their countries and fighting militias.
Iraqi and Syrian goverment will probably have to rely on their Forces, and they will mobilise and get many volunteers from Kurdistan in Turkey.
IS will die in the next thirty years, like almost all Terrorist Islamist Organisations, due to fatigue in all Muslim countries and western Nationalists rising and pushing for Intervention.
The Kurds will get their Independence, I bet in the next 7 years.
They will probably cause a war in Turkey, they'll get supported by everyone and win after 2-3 years of fighting.
The Turks will probably collapse econpmically and militarily.
In this crucial Moment, Islamists and Nationalists will cause the civil war to go on in Turkey, fought by Kurds west of Ankara and the advancing Kurds.

Cyprus is going to escalate probably.
Greek Nationalists will probably see a threat and Combine this and the now due to international conflicts and internally split EU and the depts owe them as Argument and win.
Population explode, Russia will side with them, economy will recover, Migration to Anatolia will start and Greece invades Turkey in some months, they leave EU and it will collapse.
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>>135423025
>You posted meme pictures. That isn't proof. Get over it. Cite studies or fuck off.
meme pictures? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I posted literal gedmatch results of Turks. Are you going to cry? Go ahead.
>No it fucking doesn't. Jesus you are retarded.
Pic related
>>The number of subjects in the HGDP populations varies greatly. To avoid the effects of different sample sizes on comparisons of LD decay and haplotype diversity, populations from similar geographic regions were combined, and 48 subjects were selected for each group: Turkish (48), European (14 French, 12 Italian, 8 Tuscan, and 14 Sardinian), Middle Eastern (24 Druze and 24 Palestinian), Central Asian (22 Hazara, 10 Uygur, and 16 Kyrgyz), South Asian (8 Balochi, 8 Brahui, 8 Burusho, 8 Makrani, 8 Pathan, and 8 Sindhi), Northeast Asian (8 Mongola, 8 Tu, 8 Oroqen, 8 Xibo, 8 Daur, and 8 Hezhen), native American (7 Colombian, 8 Surui, 11 Karitiana, 11 Maya, and 11 Pima), and African (11 Bantu, 8 Biaka Pygmy, 8 Mbuti Pygmy, 8 Mandenka, 8 Yoruba, and 5 San).

And? What does that actually prove? Hazaras, Uyghurs, Kyrgyzes are way more mongoloid than Turkmens or Uzbeks. Do you think C. Asian is one ethnicity? KEK
>Because he is full of shit.
Nice projecting.
I'm still waiting for you to sperg out and post more wkipedia articles made by hagop hagopyan and post eupedia maps. Go ahead.
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>>135423305
wait actually some Uzbeks are as mongoloid as Hazaras and Uyghurs but nvm my point stands.
I'm going to fuck that retard so hard he won't even forgive this thread :DDD
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>>135422871

The haplogroups show who were the best, the chads, the alpha, who fucked whose women. When you have mongol looking peoples with male lineage of white people, or indians looking with arian haplogroup, it shows that the white race is indeed superior to the poo in the loos or chinks even without the modern technology. You can consider the white race as the chads of the world.
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Conquest, slavery, harems and race-mixing.
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>>135423305
>I posted literal gedmatch results of Turks. Are you going to cry? Go ahead.
FUCKING LMAO. You posted the genetics results of 3 turks, which are extremely cherry-picked. If that's the way science is done in Turkey, it explains why your country is a shithole.

>And? What does that actually prove? Hazaras, Uyghurs, Kyrgyzes are way more mongoloid than Turkmens or Uzbeks. Do you think C. Asian is one ethnicity? KEK
Idiot, there were N=48 samples from both Central, Northeastern, and South Asians. You did not cluster with any of them. Meaning, your claim that """MUUHHH CENTRAL ASIAN DNA""" is bullshit and you are full of shit. Try to think logically. I understand you are butthurt

Again, post a study. Real fucking science, not this /pol/ chart meme shit. Find one that proves your claim right. I'll wait
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>>135423770
>You posted the genetics results of 3 turks

5*
and they're all close to Turkish average. If i indeed cherrypicked them then they would be actually close to central asians than to average turks :DDDDDD
>Idiot, there were N=48 samples from both Central, Northeastern, and South Asians. You did not cluster with any of them. Meaning, your claim that """MUUHHH CENTRAL ASIAN DNA""" is bullshit and you are full of shit. Try to think logically. I understand you are butthurt

I already explained central asians in my other post. also it's pretty clear why we didn't cluster with them because we're a mix of Central Asians and Greeco-Anatolians.
see >>135413037 this genetic chart for example. Hazaras originally descended from Mongols yet they do not cluster with mongols. That's because Hazaras are a mix of Mongolians and Iranic peoples.
>Again, post a study. Real fucking science, not this /pol/ chart meme shit. Find one that proves your claim right. I'll wait.
If you call gedmatch a meme, then you don't know a shit about actual genetics at all. I'm sorry. Maybe you should stick to Eupedia maps or wikipedia. We're obviously not in the same league.
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>>135422848
Thanks.
Yes the bulk of Germans is a manipulated bunch of degenrates and like in every western Country, we the 10% of potential (Right-wing) Radicalists Need to overthrow or undermine this goverment soon and quickly.

The alliance with the Ottoman Empire was something different.
First off the Ottoman Empire was much better than modern day Turkey, especially until 1683.
But the effectiveness has seized and the elegance and wealth was dead(Sick man at the Bosporus).
Kemal Atatürk made it better as a state, but not as a Nation, modern Turkey is worse than earlier Rum tribes.

The Brits gave the Ottomans 3 battleships, funded by public Money, the Turks were proud of their ships, but when they confiscated them again, they became angry, also because they were stealing their lands in Egypt and Arabia.
Germans replaced their ships to make Relations better.

In the war,the Pasha forced some German ships that were allowed to bombard the Russian Black Sea coast to wear Ottoman flags, then Russia declared war and British and French planes started illegally bombarding their Harbours.
Then of Course they were on our side, not because the Kaiser said, but because it was the Situation.

The German Imperial Goverment wanted to have colonies, but the Brits and French had most.
Turkey was a good base to start off an empire.
For the sake of having an ally which later will be a 3rd class protectorate like India anyway, they needed to help them, give Money, help build infrastructure,army,administration and trade.
Germans and German Austrians already dreamed of posessing Anatolia at that time, the Prussian king of Greece for example planned to side with his families alliance, until Odds unwillingly turned.

The Brits already broke the White vs White rule when they send Indians and the Russians brought Tatars.
The German Generals wanted to stop Turkish massacres on Armenians, but had no influence on that because it wasn't the Ottoman army, but the Young Turks.
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>>135424193
>If i indeed cherrypicked them then they would be actually close to central asians than to average turks :DDDDDD
what? Are you legitimately retarded? Or maybe you can't find any Turks that have more central asian admixture. Jesus you are fucking stupid. My god. This is amazing.

>If you call gedmatch a meme, then you don't know a shit about actual genetics at all.
Who is saying gedmatch is a meme? Seriously, how can someone be this stupid. You are posting 5 people from a population 80 million. And you aren't doing this randomly, across regions. You only post the people whose DNA helps make your point. Again, this is not science. If you didn't live in a shithole and weren't retarded you would realize this is textbook confirmation bias
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>>135424193
Also, still waiting on that study to prove your bullshit
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The finns are also people that claim asian/mongoloid ties. The difference betwen turkish population and finnish population is that they actually have asian male lineages, N1c. 61% of finns have asiatic origins, while you have only 4% N. That is the difference between having asian origins and being a melting pot of whatever populations passed through anatolia.
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>>135424926
>what? Are you legitimately retarded? Or maybe you can't find any Turks that have more central asian admixture.
:DDDDDDDDDDDDD
Now you're backpedalling? :DDDD
I posted average Turks, here's a very average Turk that's not too "mongol" by your standards.
check the first population mix :DDD
>Who is saying gedmatch is a meme?
you
>You are posting 5 people from a population 80 million.
Explain why they're very close to average Turks then. I'm waiting. It's not like i posted extremely mongoloid fellows (even though they're between 10% and 22% mongoloid which is average)
>You only post the people whose DNA helps make your point
>WAAAAAAAAAAAAH STOP POSTING PEOPLE'S DNAS THAT DISPROVE MY POINT
qq more
>>135425106
Haplogroups are irrelevant
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>>135424679
First off, I don't agree with the dubious grounds on which the WWI allies declared war on Germany. I also hate Woodrow Wilson in general, and US involvement in WWI was totally unjustified and a net negative for us. That being said, I still don't agree with having an alliance with Islam. Having Turks in Constantinople is an ongoing travesty which must be ended. Germans should have conquered the Ottomans rather than ally with them if they wanted that land for a staging area. Indians have much more in common with western civilization than Islam, and the English still did not treat India as an ally but made it into a colony. But while we're on the topic of India, I happen to know an Indian proverb:
>Once there was a farmer who went out into the field after a long rain, and saw a snake laying in the water, cold and dying. The farmer felt compassion for the snake, which could barely move, and decided to take it into his house and warm it up. The farmer placed the snake by the fire, and nursed it back to health. When the snake was healthy, it bit the farmer and he died. His compassion for the snake was misplaced and unappreciated.

A snake will always be a snake, and does not have the capacity to think as a human does. Dangerous animals need to be kept out.

You see now the Muslims are in your country ransacking it, and they don't care that you helped them during WWI and WWII. They are snakes.
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>>135422848
Merkel was voted for because she used to be a patriotic conservative Christian with some social ideas, she even wanted to cut down TV time for People.
She got cucked when it was to late, but at first People voted for the good Merkel, she helped with Germans in Afghanistan and opposed the lefties.
But now she is insane and the (((American Democrats))) vassal.
But let's look at the voting numbers of her fraction.
Germany has 60 Million People who are allowed to vote, only 2/3 do that, so 40 Million.
She gains 40% of the votes in current statistics, this means 16 Million.
But 1/4th of her alliances Party are not for her direct Party, but for the Bavarian section with a different candidate (They have some Special rule for it).
And 1/4 of her voters are foreigners.
So just 9 Million Germans, slightly more than 10% of the Population want her to rule.
We all know that Hitler had popularity rates up to 93% or higher.

I am even Nationalist and this is a disgrace for me.
I want back the Kaiserreich, the Weimar Republic was just as illegal as the failed Bolshevist Republic, all Jew-lead and not even allowed by the Kaiser.
The Versailles Agreement openly provoked and hurt the Germans. It was not si´gned by the legitemate Goverment but some self declared Democrats, the Kaiser abdicated 1 month later, so they were not the ones to decide anything.
In WW2 there was no peace treaty for the Germans, that is why this is an illegal non-German vassal state, the Alllied troops still occupy us and both WWs aren't finished.

>>135422960
This rule was broken anyway before in the manified destiny settlings and when the Allies illegally send Germans and Poles away from their eastern lands.
It all will happen because only Nationalists will bother voting in the future and threats will clarif lefty-idiotism.
Even in our Country the Nationalconservatives/Nationalists have 7% with rising numbers.
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>>135425504
>I posted average Turks, here's a very average Turk that's not too "mongol" by your standards.
>HURR DURR TRUST ME GUISE I AM NOT BIASED
Nope. Post real science.

>Explain why they're very close to average Turks then.
They cluster closest to the average turk. Big difference. But I understand, nuance is difficult for inbreds like you.

Anyways, getting tired of this nonsense. Stop posting some random dudes from Turkey. I don't care, cite an actual study. If you don't in your next post, I'm just going to assume you can't because you're wrong.
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>>135425876
I know that and thank you for your wiseness.
It was an idea by useless Conservatives, the Anti-Bismarck idiots.
Germany could have easily won WW1 if it was against Austria Hungary, because then Italy and Russia would be the new allies and have no compassion against Germans and the Ottomans would probably try to fight with the Austrians who fought with the French, because the Serbs would be aided by the pro-German Romanians,Greeks,Montenegrins and Bulgarians.
Britain wouldn't even jin because the Germans don't have to do the Schlieffen Plan.
The world would have been much better.

Also the Bosnian muslims were recruited because Croats wanted that and they were pretty White, at least.
The Soveits again also send Muslims into the fields and the muslim Division was mostly just used to fight against communist Partisans, which are responsible for civil massacres on Serbs.
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>>135426028
I also think that monarchy is a good thing, maybe even for us as well.

My concern for Germany is that by the time enough Germans are awake to vote for nationalists, there may not be enough Germans to win elections.

I heard that East Germany was more conservative after having lived under communism for so long. What about secession for East Germany?

Unfortunate that our troops are still in your country. George Washington told us to stay out of foreign affairs, so we have gotten a long way off base from what our founders intended, and it's costing the American tax payer a lot of money. Really WWII is long over, and people need to stop acting as if it is still going on.
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>>135426519
>Nope. Post real science.
Real science as in "please prove my retarded hypothesis that was debunked years ago"?
Then no my friend. Also the guy i posted in my last pic is 8% mongoloid by the way. Turks are 5% to 25% Mongoloid as shown in other pictures.
You as an underage amerisubhuman know nothing about actual science. Stop hiding behind a flag by the way. I want to insult your subhuman country.
>They cluster closest to the average turk. Big difference. But I understand, nuance is difficult for inbreds like you.
Are you trying to speak english?
Now get the fuck out of here. And always remember how i buttfucked you in this thread. And remember when you talk about Turks.
>cite an actual study pls
>POSTS WIKIPEDIA ARTICLES
Please, amerimutt.
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>>135427195
>No study
thanks for admitting you're full of shit.

>You as an underage amerisubhuman know nothing about actual science. Stop hiding behind a flag by the way. I want to insult your subhuman country.
>REEEE YOU ARE AMERICAN.
cry more lel. Not american though. Just gonna have to guess :^)

>Now get the fuck out of here. And always remember how i buttfucked you in this thread.
I'm just going to remember how retarded and butthurt you are. Turks are very good at being homosexuals though. We can both agree on that. Now SHOO SHOO little cockroach
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>>135427562
>you're full of shit
Calling actual gedmatch results "bullshit" won't change the fact that you're retarded and wrong. My friend. Are you going to cry? Cry more. Maybe your tears will magically turn us into hittites.
>:^)
>lel
Holy fuck i'm literally talking to a subhuman :DDD
>u-ur roach
pic related what usually happens to your kind
Now stick to your wiki articles made by hagop hagopistanyan and eupedia maps. Shoo shoo wh*Te subhuman
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>>135426587
Thanks.

Hitler also used Middle Eastern Muslims, and he brought the Mufti of Jerusalem to Germany. I think his logic was "the enemy of my enemy is my friend," but in the case of Islam this is never true. I can understand his alliance with Iranians, since they are mostly secular and Iran literally means "land of the Aryans," but no reason to form an alliance with religious Arab Muzzies. The Soviets were commie reprobates, so of course they ally with Muzzies, as today's commies also do. But the end of that would be that once their mutual enemies are beaten, the Muzzies will turn on the commies.

Things have changed so much since then. I don't think that either the Axis or the Allies really knew what they were getting themselve into, or what the long term consequences of that war could be. None of us ever fully bounced back from that war. We can't have another massive war where it's white men against white men, or western civilization will be permanently lost.
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>>135427833
>MUHHH GEDMATCH
kek cry mooore

>pic related what usually happens to your kind
>thinks I'm white
kek even more retarded then I thought you were. Don't need to be white to hate cockroaches
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>>135428035
>HURR U THINK I'M WHITE??? XDDD
then stop hiding behind a flag.
Nevertheless, since i literally btfo'd you with facts and humiliated you, you're honorary wh*Te, which means that you're subhuman
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>>135428227
>then stop hiding behind a flag.
>REEEE REMOVE FLAG
Like I said, you have to guess, my cockroach friend :^)

>you're honorary wh*Te, which means that you're subhuman
so roaches confirmed for white?
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>>135428371
Again, i don't have to guess. You're honorary wh*Te. Also underage, which makes you double subhuman, inferior to me.
By the way, almost forgot to ask, since you're underage, your mother must be still in her 30s. Will you post your milf mother here for us?
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>>135428663
>roach
>calling anyone inferior
AHAHAHHA
*gasp*
HAHAHAHHA
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>>135428738
Where's your milf mother?
Post your hot milf mother
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>>135421207
>he thinks a pre-Neolithic haplogroup is exclusively """Turkish"""
kys dummy
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