Transgendered should be allowed to serve

My Readiness

>giving the most suicidal community in America guns
Ordinarily I'd say let them serve but I'm afraid trannies would paint the walls with other people's brain matter instead of their own if push comes to shove.

>>135405452
But wouldn't that just alienate them further? Make them more depressed and possibly more suicidal?

>>135404963
their presence would be a distraction in either gender's barracks.

>>135404963
Transgendered have high suicide rate

Military have high suicide rate

Attempting to lower military suicide rate can't be done if they let in trans

>>135404963

they are mentally ill, op. i hope this helps.

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>>135404963
Same arguments made for women, but now add mental illness.
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/09/10/439190586/marine-corps-study-finds-all-male-combat-units-faster-than-mixed-units

This:
http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/26/health/military-suicide-attempts-study/index.html
Plus, the over 40% suicide rate of transgenders puts more soldiers at risk.

>>135404963
logistics, they need constant horomone shots to keep up their mental illness, in a war supply lines may be cut and the last thing people need are mentally ill people with guns going mad without their fucking horomones.

>>135405452
what stops them from doing that now?

your argument is completely baseless

>>135405679
>Same arguments made for women

what was the endgame for the push to have women serve in combat roles anyway? it had to be something other than blind adherence to identity politics right?

>>135405842
But the military pays for viagra, and transgender costs only make up .04% of the military budget

>>135405578
We have too many soldiers who suffer from mental illness and depression as it is, why forcefully add more with transgenders?

People undergoing medical treatment should not be serving.

Since trannies end up under permanent "medical treatment", they can't serve.

Having dilations during combat

>>135404963
Pre-op maybe but never post-op. It's not about the money so much, it's the readiness. Post-op trannies would require too much down time for the op and dilations.

>>135404963
Logistics. If you are too short or too long, you can't serve because the clothes, and equipment is made for people of average size. When people come in all shapes and sizes everything needs to be adjusted accordingly. This comes at a huge cost.

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>>135404963
Do we allow Diabetics to serve in the military? How about people with liver failure? What about PTSD? Chronic medical issues are enough to garner a discharge or disqualification. Without surgery those "troops" still need their hormone replacement. With surgery, those troops also need daily maintenance.

This is not a difficult decision to make or defend. That's the case for the opposing side which has to defend Trannies exploiting enlistment for free transition surgeries. They enter service with the intent to disable themselves.

>>135404963
People with other mental illness can't serve in the military why are trans people so fucking special that they think they can serve?

>>135404963
Because defending the land always has been the duty of men, not faggots.

>>135404963
I'm transgender. Not joking not lying. I've tried to kill myself 4 times and every transgender person I've ever known has attempted it at least once. You want to give them rifles? If I had a gun I'd be dead at my low points.

Not trolling and yes when I was asked publicly about the Trump trans bad I was publicly outraged and yelling about it. Privately it's the right thing. He's saving lives

>>135405915
No, im sure that was it. Equality without the rationale for equality.

>>135405919
Nothing bad happens if you run out of viagra. Plus, f to m trannies can use viagra too

>>135404963

Soldiers are sociopaths and they are being protected from friendly fire rape

>>135405578

Who the fuck cares. If they want to suicide let them do it.

>>135406413
>Publicly i pretend to be outraged
You're a fucking coward. Be honest and tell people you agree with the decision, dont pretend to be outraged. When you do that, you make things worse.

>>135406308

Funny thing is, China is suffering from this problem right now. Since people in China are on the whole no longer starving they're growing to be several inches taller than their previous generation.
This means all their equipment is too small for the modern Chinese man and something dumb like 1/3rd of Chinas entire military spending goes on adjusting equipment sizes so it fits.

>>135405919
Viagra helps with PTSD you idiot, it works on the cardiovascular system. It was originally supposed to be a bloodthinner but everyone loved the side effects

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>>135404963

>>135407050
Do you have proof that that's what it's prescribed for?

>>135404963
A tranny suicidng itself because it's a fucking tranny affects squad morale.
Also most trannies would most likely only use it for the free surgeries and hormones, like many women who get out of basic only to get pregnant before they're deployed.

>>135407251
https://qz.com/1040232/the-us-military-indeed-spends-a-lot-on-viagra-because-it-helps-veterans-with-ptsd/

But goys, if we let them serve, they can die off faster, and we dont risk regular anons. Its win win. We should get all of them to fight.

>>135407251
Do you approve of post-op trannies in the military? I don't care about costs, I care about the physical condition of the soldier. How can a soldier that is in constant pain from the surgery and dilations supposed to serve at 100%?

>>135405452
That's why the army has psychological exams you dip

I say, let them serve as long as they reach the physical and mental standards of other, normal, straight males.

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SERVING YOUR COUNTRY IS A RIGHT

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>>135407734
I suppose I ought to come clean now.
I'm adamantly supportive of the trannie ban, but I decided to false flag a few libshit arguments that I had with some co workers yesterday

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Isn't just ironic as all fuck the same people that call for gun control for "crazy" people are the same people that are ready to arm the most neurotic and insane people in the US.

they should be forced to serve. Maybe then they would find their balls which they hopefully did not cut out already

>>135404963
Mental illness is not allowed in the military.

Op is a faggot. Kys.

Sage in all fields.
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>>135405919

We want to win our wars, not lose them.

>>135404963
Dilation on the battlefield

There is a logical contradiction.

>Transgenderisim, GID, dysphoria, whatever is a serious condition that NEEDS immediate treatement with hormones, and sometimes surgery. Therefore it needs to be covered by insurance, provided to jailed prisoners, and cannot be delayed until after a servicemember's term is over.

>Transgenderisim, ect, is not a disorder. A person with it is fit to fight without any additional continuous logicstic concerns. The massive suicide rate is only from discrimination.

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Why can't we let trannies be POGs?

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>>135404963
>Tell me why transgender people shouldn't be able to serve.

Because 45% of transgender people have attempted suicide and 100% of transgender people have serious mental illness.

>>135404963
Trannies are mentally ill because of their identity disorder whatever teh fuck they call it. They don't let you in the military if you have autism or depression or other shit. Why should trannies get a free pass? Trannies might turn their guns on fellow soldiers if they're under too much pressure or suicide run at the enemy. Trannies can serve if they are denied their tranny surgeries and HRT. The military should never have or want to pay for that shit. Give the money to the black community instead.

>>135405919
Viagra is a net benefit to society helping men fuck and empregnate women; envie creating more taxpayers.
Trannies = total loss.

>>135407734
>I don't care about costs
Get out.

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>>135408968
POGS!

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>>135408968
> yfw no tranny anglican chaplain

>>135406649
>f to m trannies can use viagra too
I don't think thats true. There "penis" a.k.a. a tube of thigh skin with a clit on the end, doesn't become erect naturally, the penis tissue that does that normally isn't found in women. Some of them get a "pump" that they can manually inflate to make it look like an erect dick, but it's still essentially useless as far as fucking is concerned.

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>>135406649
How does that work?

>>135405919
This lie needs to die right now. CNN or the Rand company pulled these estimates out of their ass based on historical data (which doesn't exist, because it hasn't been acceptable up to this point) suggesting that only a small percentage of the attention whores would take advantage of the programs.
The fact is, the moment this is made legal and funded, closer to 100% would take advantage of it.
The fact is that HRT drugs alone cost $1500 per year.
The fact is that also doesn't account for the anti-depressants or other drugs for side effects.
The suggestion is that there are 15500 Trans Soldiers serving right now.
The fact is that 1500 * 15500 is three or four times what CNN/Rand et al are claiming that it would cost.
The fact is that the cost of surgery is what keeps most trans from pursuing it, so stats outside of the military don't compare.
The fact is that if the (elective) surgery were made available and they started going for it, the total cost would quickly climb to over 1 Billion dollars.
The fact is that this 1 Billion only accounts for the specific procedures themselves and don't account for all of the doctors' visits, or potential for complications.
That's not even getting into the costs of lost time for recovery, reduced productivity for deliberately hobbling their physical capability, or potential health complications of not being able to dilate twice a day for two hours at a time because missions requirements come before personal ones and a 14 hour fire-fight won't pause and wait for them to dilate their gaping wound to prevent it from healing. (And what about them getting infections and furballs and shit?)

>>135404963
The mentally ill should not have access to guns.

>>135405578
You say that like its a bad thing?

>>135404963
Put all the psychotic faggot freakazoids in one unit and march them across a mine field.

>>135410058
On Tucker last night a guest said these estimates did not include national guard or reserves, and a congresswoman estimates it at about $1.3 billion in ten years. And of course no mention of the cost of pharmaceuticals, just surgeries. I think 1.3b is too low because the number of trans kids seems to be doubling every year.

>>135408968
POGs still have to go to the field with reduced sanitation and privacy for weeks at a time and they still have to deploy.

Hormones. Testosterone is a huge contributor to building muscle and having high bone density, good things to have on the field to begin with. Means you don't tire as easily and less likely to break a leg. Mix that shit with adrenaline and you have solid soldier material. Being incapable to produce such amounts of testosterone, or systematically reducing production levels makes you more of a liability than an asset.

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>>135409884
OY VEY

easy red pill.

m to f = WATERED DOWN PHYSICAL STANDARD REQUIREMENTS, negating the purpose of their biological maleness.

f to m = novelty value only, still something to fuck.

neither add value to military professionalism, only to muh diversity

trans people and faggots shouldnt exist

>>135410596
my fucking sides

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No one should serve in any govt's military on another man's stolen die via taxes and if they fear for their life, liberty, and pursuit of property that isn't assaulting, lying to, stealing from, or cheating anyone should stop being nogunz, form a militia, or hire a PMC if they wanna defend their land and only their land which they signed and is recorded and recognized upon as theirs unless consensually arbitrating on behalf of another and only that other in defense.

Ancap 1 reporting in

What advantages do trannies bring to the military? NONE, they just bring higher costs down the road. They already have a high suicide rate, no reason to bring them in the US military where even strong men break down. No reason to put other soldiers in risk just because some cunts want moar diversity...

>>135405578
If somthing is broken you try to fix it, you store it in your garage until its fixed by him self or you throw it away.

Example: car with broken brakes
if you are retarded: you go around with broken brakes until you crash into a wall and die.
if you have a brain: you follow the first paragraph.
if you are extra retarded: you blame the wall.

Example: tranny
if you are retarded: you exhibit an ill person around your town until his depression agravates to the point that they commit suicide.
if you have a brain: you follow the first paragraph.
if you are extra retarded: you blame society.

>>135404963
Transgenders get to bill their vagina creating operation to the army while they are serving. This will cost the pentagon 1.3Billion in the next few years.

paid by me and other idiots who actually pay taxes. Funny how those who don't pay taxes are the ones that are outraged

>>135409440
>>I give you money, you should do what I want
>Well the fact that you're trying to financially blackmail me means I'm not going to comply
>>I'm not trying to blackmail you!
>well I'm not doing it
>>Maybe I can get him in legal trouble!

Women serving is bad enough.

>>135410833
What are these type of pictures called. Not gonna lie been looking for them like they are diamonds because they get me as hard as diamonds

>>135410950
100% Delusional disorder.

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>>135410596
IT'S LIKE ANODA SHOAH

>>135404963
Because mentally ill people shouldn't be in the military, isn't that common sense?

>>135404963
>blind in one eye
>not allowed to serve in any way

>want to chop your dick off and think you're a woman, and other people with your disability have a suicide rate of 40%+
>welcome aboard, here's a gun and please don't make your platoon uncomfortable but if you can't help it that's okay

>>135409137
>>135409177
>>135409212
>>135409238
>>135409272
Notice in the comments how all those supporting or braising this moron are other women. With women, feelings trump reality

inb4. one beta male in there too, he acts like a woman in order to fuck this stupid tranny, a sad state of affairs.

>>135407874
I haven't taken a single psychological test. They disqualify that during MEPS with one question: have you had any mental counseling or taken any drugs related to mental illness.
If you answer yes you get DQd

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>>135411025
Girlcuckinggirl.jpg?

Fuck if I know. I'm still waiting for an ancap-on-commie-dping-aNazi futa 69 commission by Shadbase assuming he's not too much a cuck to not go through with it

Pic related who I want the nazi to be