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How did they lose? This has been a reoccurring event for the

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How did they lose? This has been a reoccurring event for the US losing to mere farmers.

Either the US military is incredibly incompetent or all this high tech garbage is actually useless and this really presses the issue of just how long until we're all talking about how US lost the war on terrorism.
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>>135401488
there wasn't any win condition. we were testing technologies in a proxy war. same thing we've been doing in the middle east for a few decades.
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they lost because their population was not supporting them/the conflict.
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they weren't just ordinary rice farmers. They were a professional army with state of the art equipment backed by Russia and China.
Also the US didnt lose. The south was not able to hold onto their country when the US pulled out.
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>A few hundred
At literally no point in the war was this true. There were tens of thousands of Vietcong and Hundreds of thousands of NVA troops.
>With outdated weapons
This is also not true, North Vietnam received Soviet and Chinese hardware, including MiGs and SAM sites, throughout the war.

That being said, The U.S military and the other western nations that took part never really lost a major ground engagement. It was a combination of declining public support due to increased media coverage and a lack of an overall objective for ending North Vietnamese resistance, preventing the military from doing what they needed to do.
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>Australia talking shit about the Vietnam War
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>>135401488
weren't trained to battle in thick rainforests so we napalmed it and left
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>>135401488
>How did they lose?
Vietnamese dog eating magic
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>>135401488
Targets were not clear. If US job was to Raze whole country to the ground they could of have
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The US military is exceptionally well trained (better than any other nation per average) and has the best tech.

But it has become a monstrously bloated/inefficient hellhole that acts as the world police that every other nation leeches off of and despite said leeching nation's demanding less US influence and "imperialism" around the globe will throw a massive bitch fit if the US considered pulling it's troops out and bringing them home and claim they are "avoiding responsibility".
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>>135401758
>rice niggers in a jungle
>professional army
kek
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>>135401488
The only way to win was total annihilation of Vietnam.

Murrica didn't have the balls to do it because of hippy leftist culture.
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>>135401942
Is that Michael Palin on the left?
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>>135402051
cant tell if trolling or educational system at local madrasa has failed you
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>>135401488

>>135401602
That guy was almost right, but just presented the reason and the purpose instead of the reason and an explanation.

>no win condition
>enemies have the home-field advantage
>enemies are willing to strap bombs to women and children for free kills on normies
>enemies can just strap a bomb to some bamboo and deny an area for eternity
>youth pissed off that we're bullying good-natured commies
>boomers pissed off that our K:D ratio isn't higher

All they had to do was wait us out, and that's incredibly easy against an enemy that has to keep something like the American public pleased.
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>>135401488
>Either the US military is incredibly incompetent
Ding Ding Ding
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>>135401942
>Don't mind me I'm just going to wedge crap into my barrel while standing here
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>>135402033
Not really - jungle / rainforest type environments aren't always that easy to burn.
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The high tech garbage is just a military contractor gravy train
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>>135401488
We basically got bored of killing them and then we left.

In the end, they lost like 8 men for every man that we lost.
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The only way to properly treat an insect invasion is to gas the whole house.
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>>135401488
USA's army is designed for war against other great powers. There is no great powers left who would bother waging war with USA so they instead invest their money into growing their economies while USA wastes money on replacing older gen tech by newer and equally pointless ones.
Eventually money runs out and USA loses the war that didn't even happen.

As is, the USA of today should be something akin to Nazi Germany and should just invade the whole world.
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US didn't fight a war of annihilation. They refused on humanitarian grounds to bomb the shit out of Hanoi early in the war, which would have ended it. The US hasn't been game to fight a war properly since they nuked Japan.
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>>135401488
Have you been to Vietnam? Everywhere except for cities is super thick vegetation.

Also the south Vietnamese who America supported went around burning down villages and torturing rural Vietnamese making Việt Cộng get a lot of support so no one could be trusting.
Meanwhile the American campaign was further crippled by not being allowed to invade the north who smuggled weapons and propaganda to the south.
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By not actually capturing cities and villages. We'd swoop and clear it out and leave for it to only get taken back by cong the next day
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>>135401488
>Australian/european education, the thread
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>>135401488
Politicians . If they had kept out of it the army would have wiped them all out.
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The US weren't willing to just bomb the entire population, it's the exact same thing in the middle east. Naturally if NATO just made a big hole out of the entire middle east then a whole lot of problems in the world would be solved, but remember, we're the white humanitarians.
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There's no such thing as a "war on terrorism", its an invention to screen geopolitical maneuvering and resource wars.
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>>135401488
Congress lost the war the armed forces never could.
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It's always retarded constraints if not outright interference by politicians. Fight a war but within these constraints. We tried to play up the body count because we were tactically victorious most of the time, but it didn't matter.
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>>135403037
>bomb the shit out of Hanoi early in the war, which would have ended it.
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>>135403915
But not when it comes to South African Whites, nah they aren't human :^)
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>>135401488
http://www.opsecnews.com/gulf-of-tonkin-incident-false-flag-for-war-in-vietnam/
The Gulf of Tonkin Incident was a false-flag. The Jewmericans are so quick to die for Israel's agenda.
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>>135401488
Because civilized countries like Germany, UK et al fight war in a more or less civilized manner. A formal surrender can be trusted. War against uncivilized nations must NOT be fought in an civilized manner. It must be fought in an uncivilized manner. That means scorched earth, euthanize entire cities ala Tamerlane, genocide is the bargaining chip you use to enforce a surrender. Japan learned this the hard way.

Western nations don't have the will for a REAL war, that's why they lose these sorts of engagements.
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>>135402216
ty for understandng this. u r a good man
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>>135401488
Guerrilla warfare. Only reason the sand niggers have a snowballs chance in hell of sticking around. Also future war is proxy war
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>>135404477
No idea what you are talking about.
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>>135401602
>>135401758
>>135402216
this is what amerisharts tell themselves to cope over their lost neoshekel taxmoney
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>>135405273
No one is helping SA Whites yet all we hear about is the injustices minorities face.
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>>135401488

>Democrats
>stupid rules of engagement
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>>135401488

2 things:

The US army had low morale and was full of conscripts that didn't give a shit and therefore became bad soldiers. Public opinion meant they had to withdraw and hand the task over to the South Vietnamese forces that couldn't handle the job.

Meanwhile the Vietcong fucked them with guerrilla tactics that are impossible to fight against while the North Vietnamese were fighting them in a more conventional war fueled by Russia.

If the US people really cared, the war would have ended with a north and south vietnam.
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>>135402282
Napalm?
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>>135401488
Jesus christ how many times does this thread need to happen? I get its likely bait, but the US militarily absolutely destroyed not only those farmers, but NVA as well. Our political leaders were fucking cucks except for NIxon sometimes and didn't let our military do its job. Military would have ended the war in no time flat if allowed to fight without both hands tied behind its back. At this point in time, the military was largely uncucked, its "failure" in Vietnam was pretty much all because of politics. The military is somewhat incompetent, and mostly always has been. There are still by far the strongest on the planet though. The strength of our military hasn't been a problem since the 1800's and every subsequent fuck up has been pretty much 100% the result of the incompetence of political leaders and the divide caused by the anti-American left. Problem is, its been bad for so long and our demographics are in such a state that the military is now getting pretty cucked. It won't be long before it resembles the rest of this machine.
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