ROME

>>135367528
Counterpoint: the glory and magnificence of the Roman Empire was what inspired men to fight with such discipline that they conquered most of the known world.

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In the end, Rome died from immigrant hoards and career politicians.

>>135368268
I heard it was lead pipes, incest and barbarians that did them in

>>135370279
No, it was pretty much immigrants.

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>>135370374
>muh immigrants

>>135367528

What?

Ancient Rome was mostly wooden, the image of the marble metropolis
in your mind (I assume you meant marble, not cement and concrete? You don't seem that bright) is something out of hollywood movies.

If you're asking if Rome fell because they had a big city, no. It lasted in one form or another for over 2,000 years, and it all started from the city.

Germans. The answer is fucking Germans. It was the first time they destroyed the continent, but as we all know it certainly wasn't the last.

Rodney Stark says the fall of Rome was the best thing that happened to Western Civilization. It had stagnated and gotten degenerate and it lead to the rise of Catholicism.

>>135370527
in late Rome most buildings in cities were made from cement mixed with rock and clay brick

>>135371066
>>135371537
fuck wrong person

>>135371392

Technically he isn't wrong. Once Europe got itself sorted out after the fall of the Western Empire and the last major barbarian migrations which allowed them to consolidate into kingdoms/feudal hierarchy, the advance of technology steadily accelerated.

Tbf though, it's honestly fucking impressive how long the Western Empire held out, and how close it came multiple times to getting the situation back under control, at least for a time.

>>135371066
You realize Romans had concrete right?

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>>135371294
This.

>>135372003
They used it not a a major building material like us, but for mortar and pavement

If you want the answer to your question... read "the idea of a town" Joseph Rykwert

>>135372003
>>135371946

The picture he posted is not late imperial Rome, and there's a marbel temple
in the forefront. Maybe OP just chose a poor picture to go along with the post.

>>135367528
Western Rome; stressed and exploited by barbarian invaders (or immigrants of you prefer) and intruding hordes, the west fell due to its lack of development and sustainability, and the east survived due to its compactness, high production, development, and it's importance to trade.

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>>135367528

Civilization is Anti-Nature at its core, and created by degenerates and freaks, who are so afraid of Nature, they wall themselves off from it. God's word is written in the animals. Modern Humans are mostly abominations. Ugly, weak, stupid. All down to civilization.

>overing everything up in cement and separating the people from the natural world and creating this weird artificial place created by man
it's called a city.