Does the sun create poverty ?

>>135329395
The stupid, insane and psychopathic don't freeze to death every year in warm climates.

>>135329395
australia seems to do ok
so do hong kong, singapore, malaysia and they are all pretty near the equator
but then they are all ex colonies so they got a good start in life

>>135329752
Well the whites do

The abos are the most useless people on the planet

>>135329534
Came here to say pretty much this. If you want to survive you have to know how to get along, build shelter, resources and provide value to other people.

>>135329395

If where you live is a frozen hellhole for half of the year you have to build community trust and be able to plan ahead. When you handle resources wisely and the community works together wealth is generated.

The opposite happens in tropical climates.

>>135329395
There have been papers written about this. I suggest you google. TLDR, an above average temperature is a very mild contributing factor to war. It's not a null factor, but it is so small that can be considered not to have a substantial impact.

Rhodesia used to feed the whole continent of Africa.
Nowadays, Zimbabwe needs western help to feed itself.
All signs point to climate not being as much a defining factor as... other things.

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>>135329395
yes, have you read pic related? very informative desu

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>>135329395
>Rhodesia
>most developed country on Africa
>whites leave
>becomes shithole

>South Africa
>also one of the most developed countries in Africa
>whites no longer run the country
>becomes shithole (whites still run some things so it kinda holds up)

>Australia
>sunny all the fucking time
>has lots of whites
>first world country

Really makes me think...
There is however, a relation with IQ and skin color

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>>135329395
Big if true

>>135332988
Full of misinformation and guesswork too.

The sun makes people into niggers, because black skin can reflect more light.

desu, if you want the whole world to become white, just block out the sun and everybody will evolve to be albino.

>>135335000
even leftists seem to hate it for some reason

year round growing seasons remove need to plan for future and not dying from sleeping in poorly made shelter leads to proliferation of low IQ

high disease rate necessitates higher fertility to ensure genes are passed on due to only 3 out 8 kids reaching adulthood

Whites came in, cured diseases resulting in overpopulation leading to poeverty

>>135329752
It's not about being ex colonies, if anything those times were the worst for then, also remember India. It's all about economic freedom, but hey keep slaving your people UKeked

>>135329395
Have you ever tried to wörk while it's 30°C and up?

>>135338759
that's the best time to work

>>135338951
So as long as your civilization makes it over the AC bump you are in the clear.

>>135338759
I worked for the state outside running a chainsaw in summer in an area that routinely hits 40 C. It's not about how hot it gets, it's about who's running the saw.

>>135329395
Whats the final solution to the (((sun))) problem?

>>135339507
star wars
gas the suns now

>>135330830
>war

You're retarded.

>>135329395
My theory is this, variable climates create an evolutionary push towards planning for the future. In areas where the climate is constant, there is less evolutionary pressure for long term planning.

>>135333077
this

>>135329395
>The South has more Niggers
>Fewer resources like food and water in hot countries

Technically speaking, these are all the results of the Sun.

>>135335105
Black does not reflect, it absorbs, so that sun light does not fuck up your inner organs/DNA.

>>135329395
yes it does
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1500927915096.webm

>>135329395
Anywhere south of the 35N Latitude is POOR, in fact the southern hemisphere (South of the Equator) - except Anglo white majority New Zealand and Australia - are POORER.

>>135329534
Fpbp
People can afford to be lazy in warm climates, you die in the north without enough money throughout the winter for heat. Proven time and time again

>>135329395
>Cold winter selection theory

Anyone have the youtube vid of that danish guy?

>>135339779
>>135342739
this

The sun creates Races that do not prepare for winter.

Look at all the successful tropical nations.
They either have resources that North races can use or have been conquered and are run by north races.

>>135329534
Wouldn't people living in a desert (like Bedouins) need to be extremely resourceful and know the landscape to survive?

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>>135339779
This concept has been around for a long time.

"Out of the original pool of humanity a million years ago, some were lazy, some were energetic.
The lazy and easy-going naturally stayed in the warm climates - the "Garden of Eden," where you can lay around without getting too cold and where coconuts fall on you for food. These people bred more of their own lazy kind. Over the centuries and the thousands of years, these easy-going people stayed in the easy places to survive on the earth, inbred with each other, and produced races of easygoing, lazy people.
On the other hand, some energetic, vigorous, early humans began to move around and migrate over the face of the planet. Some of them arrived in the frozen, semi-arctic sections of Northern Europe.
To survive in such a bitter climate, men needed something more than the qualities of the easy- going people of the warm tropics.
In the storms and blizzards of a brutal winter, those humans who had not foreseen hard times, had not laid by stores for food, and had not built themselves shelters strong enough to withstand the battering of the northern gales, simply died and did not breed.
More importantly, selfish men could not survive in the cold North. Men had to be ready to help each other and be fair to each other to survive in the North.
In the warm climates, a man could survive with a minimum of foresight and with selfish disregard of others. His shelter could be of sticks and mud. His food supply was instantly available. He had no need for stores. He did not suffer if he lacked planning and foresight. He needed little help from other men. "

George Lincoln Rockwell
White Power

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>>135342221
>Fewer resources like food and water in hot countries

What the fuck did you just say?

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>>135339779
>>135344328
"But in the North, selfishness was a luxury man could not afford. Northern European man had to develop foresight and planning to survive the rigors of his environment. He had to learn to build substantial dwellings. He had to exercise and develop abstract mental powers to think in terms of the future not required in the tropics. Those who didn't died, and their qualities died out with them.
A natural selection of men occurred when the energetic ones left the warm climates where man originated, leaving the lazy ones behind.
In the North, man had to think ahead to live.
The foresighted and unselfish people of the north then bred with each other to produce still more foresighted, resourceful and unselfish people, just as you can breed the qualities of aggressiveness and tenaciousness into the bulldog by inbreeding.
Over hundreds of thousands of years, being forced to think and plan ahead, being forced to help his neighbors, the people of the North bred a race of humans in whom the qualities of energy, thought, resourcefulness and unselfishness were paramount.
(It should be pointed out here that Eskimos, who do not exhibit these qualities so much, are relatively recent arrivals in the North, having been driven to the arctic wastes by better men who conquered them and drove them out of more moderate climates in Asia. On the other hand, the geological records show that the Nordic Northern European has inhabited his cold climate for many hundreds of thousands of years.)
The Northern climate thus selected and bred a race of people who had the ability to think ahead; to think in terms of, not the concrete realities of the present moment, but the intangible ideas and conceptions of the storms, difficulties and conditions they would have to deal with in the future.
This was a new kind of thinking for humanity. "

George Lincoln Rockwell
White Power

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OP is a sholva.

He will pay for his blasphemy.

>>135332742
kek'd
best reply

>>135329395

Sun brings life and death. Balance is important.

>>135344279

Bedouins are resource destroyers.
North Africa (besides Egypt along the nile) and the middle east use to be green when it was the classical Christian culture of Rome (northern people and northern culture)

When Islam took it over they grazed their animals and grazed and grazed and grazed. The olive trees on the roads died the pastures eaten and turned to sand the ceder forests chopped to fire wood and burned to nothing.

The Bedouins survive in an environment of their own making. Made to be like the desert they came from. A constant tribal war to control the thin streams and oasis of their wasteland.

>>135333077

Most of the western US is desert.
there was the dust bowl but farmers either learned from it or lost the farm.

Also large parts of Mexico is desert.
Yet they do feed themselves.
Niggers and goatfuckers can't even do what spics can do!
Though yeah most spic farms are run and owned by Spaniards.

>>135346270
Agh! Why haven't we set up a mining colony on Mercury for these people yet? Let them go be somewhere that will require real discipline out of them, and nobody will care if they scar THAT landscape!

>>135339667
I mean I get really angry when it's hot out

>>135347976

False. Only mexicans can own land in mexico. Spaniards don't count.

>>135329395
What about Australia?

>>135329395
obviously, the sun is racists

will unfriend

>>135335000
>>135335333
Also chekt

>>135349875
They have a poverty of culture

>>135332988
Hey look, (((Diamond))). What a coincidence.

>>135329395
California, Texas, and Australia say hello.

>>135329395
It's deforestation that's the problem, doesn't allow the rain to be absorbed into the topsoil, this is all due to bad grazing practices that end up destroying previously arable land.

It's all the 1% muh 1%
herp derp

https://youtu.be/rfQf7_8ir6s

>>135344279
>>135346270
Any idiot can figure out where to go to get certain supplies, or memorize a process to get food. The southern hemisphere is basically push button, get bacon.

It takes a whole other level of abstraction to think about the future. Not just what's over the next hill, but what might be happening on the other side of that hill when you're not actively looking at it. Or how many dried fish you're going to need to survive the winter. Or how to avoid dying stupidly to a predator.

In the southern hemisphere, humans can reproduce a LOT more. You can just let them go outside, mostly unprotected from the elements, any time of the year. A child can probably fend for itself-- pick fruit off trees, catch lizards and dig up roots-- by about ten years old. In the north, in the dead of winter, you've got to be CAREFUL. You can't leave a baby alone for any time at all. The cold can kill so quickly. And you've got to teach them about the seasons, about farming, about hunting, and food preservation. And even an adult probably can't be totally self-reliant-- they have to depend on the rest of the tribe.

In Africa, they have dangers too, predators, diseases, parasites. But life is so easy there that the best strategy to make sure at least some of your kids survive is to just have more.

>>135329395
water is life.

>>135344328
>>135344618
What if, in fact, living in stable societies for millenia, like the ones in the north (i.e., early mastering of agriculture), generates the lazy people the Tropics' inhabitants suposedly are?

Africa is full of dangers: tropical diseases, predators, harsh environments, etc; if anything, blacks should be the opposite of easy goings. It all doesn't sum up for me.

I'd like to further this discussion, as I don't see races as a valid way to determine peoples' capacity and how the Tropics' inhabitants ended up poorer and backwards.

>>135329395
No.
Neanderthal dna creates science, agriculture, math, and everything required for us to survive.

It just so happens that the people that live in the sunniest areas of this planet have the lowest, and in the case of africans literally NO neanderthal dna.

>>135329395
We are a tropical species. Our body shape, even of people in the north, is optimized to LOSE heat to the environment. When we're in our default posture, we're closer in shape to a stick, and flattened out front-to-back. Many of us sleep on our side, straightened out-- possibly to maximize the amount of body surface exposed to the air.

If we didn't invent clothes, we'd have evolved to be much shorter, stockier, and rounder as we moved north. We'd obviously be furry, and our bodies would probably be somewhat more ball-shaped at rest than they are now. We might have gone on all fours and be shaped pretty much like a bear. If we stayed bipedal, it would take a lot more re-engineering. We'd probably move about with our legs bent close to our body. Our at-rest posture would be a squat. We'd have large, floppy bellies, with loose skin that hangs over everything, eliminating crevices that increase surface area, especially around our legs and groin. Doing this rather than just shortening the legs lets us stay mobile. Our chests would be more rounded and barrel-like, literally. We'd be more circular in horizontal cross-section. Our arms would be relatively short, and we'd hold them curled up against our body. They'd probably have folds of fatty skin hanging down from at least the upper arms, again, to minimize surface area and seal in heat.

Although, now that I think about it, this body plan would take a LOT of energy to move around. All that fat and loose skin would get in the way of our normal gait. One of the main advantages that humans have, one big reason we became bipedal, is that our method of movement is very efficient. Walking takes much less energy, because it's basically a controlled fall-- we preserve our momentum to a huge degree as we move along.

It's possible that we could not have migrated northward except by inventing clothes, at least not without becoming a very different animal, adapted to a very different ecological niche.

>>135352517
>It just so happens that
Why doesn't "it just so happens that" the poorest nations are composed of niggas, then?

>>135353161
Not sure Im interpreting you're question right.
If you are asking why the poorest nations arnt made up of nogs, then my response is they are.

>>135329395

>what is Oz

>>135353591
I'm questioning how can you simply dismiss a factor as important as weather in determining how a certain people will evolve. I mean, you're black-or-white-ing something this complex.

>>135335000
still entertaining and provocative nonetheless
dont be such a nihilistic faggot, people will like you more

>>135354180
>weather in determining how a certain people will evolve

That, and Africa having resources everywhere, is why Negroes and Abos are so dumb.

They never had selective pressures like cold environments had, where only the smart survived.

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>>135332988

Nice try kike.

>>135332988
GG&S is basically a big lie that a lot of people desperately want to believe. The reasons go deeper than you think.

The heritability of IQ, and IQ's effect on overall life outcomes is so well-established now as to be nearly undeniable. IQ correlates with eventual income to a HUGE degree. IIRC it's like .7. Most psychometric stuff has a correlation of .4, and that's considered REALLY good. Also, this is (sort of) a logarithmic scale-- .7 isn't just almost double .4. It's something like 8 times as much of an effect. The genetic heritability of IQ is something like .5-- and that's AFTER controlling for the effects of upbringing.

To say that IQ is mostly environmental is basically plugging bananas in your ears and saying "what? I can't hear you! Oh well I guess that means I get to ignore you!"

Why would someone do that? Well...

Let's do this exercise: imagine you're a liberal. I know it's probably setting off your cognitive dissonance like a bitch, but come on. Try to stick with me. I'll try to make it worth it.

No, they don't want to kill all whites (at least most of them don't) and they don't "hate freedom" or "individuality" or anything like that. Get rid of those notions. Try to understand where liberals are REALLY coming from.

OK. Still with me? Good...

As a liberal, the primary moral virtue that motivates you, the thing that makes the world "right," that gives you that shot of dopamine that motivates anyone to do anything not related to an immediate bodily function is *caring*. Caring for one person is OK. Caring for a handful of them is even better. But caring for everyone who's alive or will ever live? That's the best possible good imaginable.

(as a conservative, you probably git a hit of disgust when considering foreigners as part of your "cared-for" in group. That's normal, that's a part of your temperament that's engrained in you genetically, and it's also not at all a bad thing, for reasons I may or may not explain later)

Cont'd...

>>135329395
No. Spain once was the world's richest nations with a world spanning empire and is literally Africa tier and we wuz kangz.

The average IQ of the people is the deciding factor in the wealth of nations. Now how do we start artificial selection of embryos in Africa and teh Middle East to literally save the world?

>>135329534

I'm never able to find a way to phrase this without sounding like a cunt. You hit the nail right on the head anon.

>>135354180
look at detroit. its in ruins and its the africans fault. south africa too.

the Neanderthal genome project found that everyone besides subsaharan africans have neanderthal dna. I dont know where aboriginals fall on that, probably the same as subsaharan africans.

people share 97% of their dna with chimpanzees
that is only a 3% difference
White people on average have 2-4% neanderthal dna.
Its insane to think that doesnt play a vital role.

>>135354180
add on to my last message, detroit is a frozen wasteland half the year and far above desert regions. They are not any more productive than anywhere else in america and probably anywhere in africa too.

>>135355118
Listening senpai...go on

>>135355747
> look at detroit. its in ruins and its the africans fault
How?
> White people on average have 2-4% neanderthal dna
First, I find it weird that the sub-species that lost the evolutionary struggle of surviving can possibly lead to said race becoming in any way better. As for the genetic differences, how can you assure me the genes that make your skin tone change are related to your intelect or other habilities? Yes, I don't believe IQ averages show anytthing worth of quoting on human populations. Measuring the IQ of a gorilla, which is low, doesn't show the gorilla's capability of being intelligent (which it doesn't have). Then, when it comes for nigs, my experience tells there are many of them who are way more inteligent than me, therefore they have this capacity. In conclusion, the lower IQ rates should be due to ambiental factors, don't you think?

>>135356817
Detriot has 98% black population, lessening tho.

>>135357033
So it doesn't have anything to do with rust belt and local economic breakdown?

>>135357033
Anyway, this is 'just' 81%, though.

>>135342712
i get what you're saying but money is not the right word. it's about exorcising the lazy and violent.
it brings true empathy because when the empathy ends, there is death.
people in warm climates do everything they can to fuck each other over because charity means nothing. they have the idea of family and kin, but not the idea of "loving a stranger".
that's what's going to kill us.

>>135356817
neanderthals had a different mindset than homosapains, different technology, different tools.
africans are pure homosapians. You cant possibly sit there and say they are the ones that are ahead, better off, more productive, let alone even capable of surviving on their own.

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>>135329395
lol partially, yes. Some group of japs did a study where they correlated skin color darkness to iq on a map. Hotter areas with the darker people had lower iqs and less levels of economic development. The conjectured that the hotter regions did not apply the same environmental selection pressures on the populations that lived in them. Colder climates have long, cold winters where planning was needed to increase the chanes of surviving. Idiots tended to die more bc they were dumb and couldn't plan through the winter. Warmer climates had their challenges too, but not the same ones that would select for long term planning to the degree that colder climates did. So yeah, the sun is kind of to blame.

>>135357436

Pittsburgh suffered from the rust belt and economic breakdown more than any other city in the entire country. It was literally called "Steel City" (hence, the Pittsburgh Steelers), and the industrial base was completely destroyed. Today, it is one of the safest big cities in America along with Portland, which are both overwhelmingly white.

West Virginia, out of 50 states, is number 49 in wealth and affluence. It is dirt poor. It also happens to be one of the safest places to live in the country, and is 95% white.

Of course economic factors play a role, but nothing is more impactful for biological organisms than biology. Human Neruologcal Uniformity is one of the most proposterous theories ever presented by leftist. it stands in stark opposition to every shred of evidence we have, and is opposed by mountains on observable evidence in every society in the planet. If you're a proponent of HNU you should be presenting a massive level of proof to support your position.

>>135333077
>Bolivia
>white

>>135357961
As a brazilian defender of Kant's morality, I must agree. It amazes me how the biggest catholic country in the world ended this corrupt and immoral
>>135357992
But then, even if we accept that the neanderthal DNA plays a role this big in humans' intelligence, why isn't it holding back europeans, instead of helping them? If neanderthals were in any way more intelligent, they would take control of the continent and not lose, either by genocide or by dilluted DNA in the H. sapiens pool, the evolutionary race in Europe.

>>135332988
>The heritability of IQ, and IQ's effect on overall life outcomes is so well-established now as to be nearly undeniable. IQ correlates with eventual income to a HUGE degree. IIRC it's like .7. Most psychometric stuff has a correlation of .4, and that's considered REALLY good. Also, this is (sort of) a logarithmic scale-- .7 isn't just almost double .4. It's something like 8 times as much of an effect. The genetic heritability of IQ is something like .5-- and that's AFTER controlling for the effects of upbringing.
Could you give us the sources? I really want to finally form my weltanschauung when it comes to this topic.

>>135355118
Ok, so, you love everyone (whether or not the ways you choose to express it are in the other party's best interest). You're just like a mother doting on her children*. You want to protect them from negative emotion. One of the biggest ways you do that is ensuring fairness. I mean, seeing others have something you don't is pretty traumatic, right? It's even worse seeing others become something you can never be. You want people to think... no, you want them to KNOW that they are just as valuable and worthwhile as every other human being who has ever existed. You want them to know it the same way that you yourself "know" it.

So, even if you had some information about them, some damning knowledge about their destiny, it's in the best interest of your temperament to keep that from them. While it is true that everyone has the same moral value, knowing that you're not smart enough to build an airplane, or write for vanity fair, or run a city is really crushing, especially if it goes against their expectations. It makes people upset, angry, and confused. And seeing people that way that makes your soul quiver. Knowing that YOU caused it might break you.

It's not something you can rationalize away. It's not something you can make a deal with. It's just there, in your temperament. You can't think past the impact to realize that knowing these things might cause them to set their sights a little lower, and go on to have happy, useful, honorable lives as a plumber or an electrician. It just hurts too much, and it makes the inside of your skull buzz. That's cognitive dissonance. Yes, Virginia, liberals get it too.

The easiest way to resolve it is to lie to yourself. Deny deny deny.

* (Literally. You're using the same neural pathways for it. And that's not a bad thing in moderation-- the best tough-but-fair teachers are the same way. But they have the discipline and foresight to not burden people with false expectations.)

cont'd

>>135329395
Poverty is the base state of nature. The question is, what causes prosperity?

>>135358434
>Today, Google, Apple, Bosch, Facebook, Uber, Nokia, Autodesk, and IBM are among 1,600 technology firms generating $20.7 billion in annual Pittsburgh payrolls. The area has served as the long-time federal agency headquarters for cyber defense, software engineering, robotics, energy research and the nuclear navy.[13] The area is home to 68 colleges and universities, including research and development leaders Carnegie Mellon University and the University of Pittsburgh.[14] The nation's fifth-largest bank, eight Fortune 500 companies, and six of the top 300 U.S. law firms make their global headquarters in the Pittsburgh area, while RAND, BNY Mellon, Nova, FedEx, Bayer and NIOSH have regional bases that helped Pittsburgh become the sixth-best area for U.S. job growth.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsburgh

I will stick to HNU until something better is presented to me. I don't even believe in races... But please don't call me a kike of something, I'm really interested in learning more about views other than mine, as every other place I have outside 4chan is full of people who agree with me, therefore discussing with them doesn't make sense.

>>135358397
i will forever be torn between my disgust for asians and roof koreans. damn they look good.

>>135358760
why would neanderthal dna hold us back?
we conquered the fucking world several times over.
the only thing that is holding us back are mental issues like being masochists with constant kike propaganda and child hood indoctrination like "muh melting pot".

>>135358760

>the organism with the highest IQ always wins

I'm not sure you understand how evolution works. It's not a race for which organism can have the highest measure of one trait you're considering supreme- it is a question of which organism can best adapt to an environment and reproduce. China was far more
educated and advanced than the Mongols, it didn't stop their entire country from being dominated and ruled by barbarian horse archers. The French have a higher IQ than African muslims, but one group is on the ascension and the other in deep decline. Neanderthals likely had a higher IQ than homo-sapiens, but they were also far less social and had far, far smaller numbers. But it's not as if they were wiped out- they bred with the homo-sapien females and created Europeans and Asians.

At the moment we don't know how much neanderthal admixture influences intellience. What we do know is that no aneanderthalic hominid population has ever invented the wheel or a system of writing.

>>135358760
>Could you give us the sources? I really want to finally form my weltanschauung when it comes to this topic.
This was meant to go to >>135355118

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>Inuits are the peak of human intelligence and societal development

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>>135329395
No OP it has been proven shit skins and niggers create poverty, because they think everything should be free.

Because most hot countrys are full of dumbass niggers who decided to settle there villages and cities tens of kilometers from any natural water source

>>135359722
>It's not a race for which organism can have the highest measure of one trait you're considering supreme
Indeed, I didn't say otherwise.
> Neanderthals likely had a higher IQ than homo-sapiens
Source? Now you made me think something: I always assumed they were stupid! My fault.
> What we do know is that no aneanderthalic hominid population has ever invented the wheel or a system of writing.
I'm pretty sure the sub-saharan empires of Mali and ancient Nubia disprove this. The early equivalence in "great" civilizations throughout history is one of the big things that make me lean towards the so-called HNU. Europe only began to "win the contest" late enough for any genetic / biological difference to be behind this. I subscribe the theory of union in Latin and christianity, and then competition in nation-states (or its earlier forms) to justify the process we're discussing (development of Europe).

>>135358760
>sources?
After story time.

>>135358986
And lie to everyone else too. "Yes, Cletus, you can get rich! Yes, Drayqwondrea, you can be a quantum physicist! Yes, Mary Sue, you can run fifteen fortune five hundred companies and still have time to raise chldren with your rich globe-trotting surgeon husband! Yes, Andretteyukisnowflake, erm can be irt girloid-genderkin if erm wants to! And gir new vagina is *heaves* lovely!" Well, you promised them the world and by damn you gave it to them! (Or at least made yourself believe you did long enough that they'll be out of college by the time reality caves their heads in and turns them into resentful nihilists)

It's not a lie if you really believe it-- but if you force yourself to believe something, you can't rely on anything you say, think or do to be genuine.

And in the end, a radical liberal's core value (assuming they're sincere and aren't just malevolent actors manipulating others) is *comfort*. *NOT LOVE*. If it was love, you'd care about others long-term best interests. But since you only care about comfort, both for yourself and others, you aren't willing to comprehend the truth, even if in the twilit lands at the border of your consciousness, you know it full well. You see it every day, first-hand. But it's just too hard to bear.

Worst of all, caring (trait agreeableness) isn't just about nurturing and protection. It has an aggressive side. It causes you to see the entire world in terms of in-group and out-group. Your in-group is always right, no matter what happens to them. None of their misfortunes are their own fault. They are perfect little angels-- your subconscious, be you male or female, interprets them as precious little babies. And it's a human's duty to protect babies, no matter what.

And what are things that threaten babies?

They're predators. Not a lick of good in them, they have no standing, they're infinitely unwise, infinitely malevolent, infinitely tricksy. They're worthy only of death.

>>135360574
Also this.
>hurr lets walk 10 miles one direction every day for water
While our ancestors did shit like build aqueducts or simply live near the things required for life, niggers chose to live and starve in barren deserts. (AND NO, THAT DOESNT MEAN THEY NEED TO OR CAN COME HERE)

>>135329752
White Australians are descended from people who evolved in a cold climate.

>>135361185
Thanks anon

>>135344279
No, deserts are extreme climates but are constant, it simply limits the amount of people that can live off the place. In the northern hemisphere that limit is only present on winters, so the people can reproduce and survive in big numbers as long as they are able to develop the concept and value of hard work coupled with planing for the future.

>>135360936
>Now you made me think something:
What are you now thinking of?
>HNU
What is hnu?

>Europe only began to "win the contest" late enough for any genetic / biological difference to be behind this.
Maybe since our ancestors lived in an Eden half of the year and spent the other half fighting winter, maybe we didn't need that much advancement? maybe it was simply the wars in recent history that drove us to the level were at now. Look at all of the technology that came out of WWII

>>135329395

Not the sun, just niggers

>>135361342
youre welcome bb

>>135360936

Nubian are not aneanderthalic sub-saharans, East Africans have caucasoid admixture.

Mali is the result of North African and Arabic expansion into the continent. Timbuktu was an islamic trading center established by outsiders, it was not s sub-saharan civilization.

Races don't exist in the same sense that colors dont exist. There is no onjevrive, scientific way where you can
point to one specific wavelength of light and say "okay this is red" then move .00000001% away and say "okay now it's orange". Colors are merely umbrella terms used to refer to the way that humans perceive light. If I said "colors dont exist", I would technically be correct, but obviously that is not the whole story.

Likewise, "races" are unscientific umbrella terms for clusters as shades of genetic differences. The point where one "race" ends and another begins is fairly arbitrary, but the genetic differences that the words reference are extremely real, and as for all primate populations, they affect behavior, cognition, and physical traits. The brain is an organ like the lung or arm, and saying that all primate populations have the same average intelligences is no different from saying they all have the same height or eye color.

You don't seem stupid, so I can't genuinely believe that you think central african pygmies and Australian Aboriginals (who are urged by government information programs to stop sleeping on highways) have the same chance of becoming successful partical physicists as Japanese or Germans do. I think your adherence to the theory of HNU comes from a moral basis, rather than a scientific one.

>>135362057
>Mali
You were right on the others but this was isn't true. Mali was indisputably black African though influenced by Islam later on. Being influenced doesn't invalidate achievement. Remember that Germanics to med influence and Greeks forgot writing for centuries prior to Phoenicians.

>>135362390
*germanics weren't much prior to med influence

>>135360936

>Source? Now you made me think something: I always assumed they were stupid! My fault.

We don't know for certain that neanderthals had higher IQs than homo-sapiens, but it is likely for a number of reasons. In addition to the already mentioned fact that humans with neanderthal admixture tend to have average IQs between one and two standard deviations (15-30 points) over pure homo-sapiens, we also know that neanderthals had cranial capacities of 1600 cubic cm. Not only is that larger than the homo saliens of the time that mixing occurred, that is larger than humans of TODAY, with all of it access to modern nutrition. There is also evidence of neanderthals using complex tools as far back as 100,000 years ago, and possibly even sailing the mediterranean as long as 40,000 years ago, long before homo-sapiens reached similar milestones. This area of research has made insane advancement over just the last 5 years, and I expect the best 5 to be no less enlightening.

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>>135329534
This leaf knows , the first leaf that says something smart this month..
Not only that but evolutionary cold climates force to long term planing in the genetics if you did not planed for winter you get fucked so tribalist people that were retarded were forced to fight and die for resources.

This created a force to evolve during winters and one that purgued retards.

>>135362390

You are incorrect. Mali, like all the west african empires, was a result of the trans-saharan trade routes which started in north africa and the middle east. There was absolutely zero meaningful civilization of any sort in Mali prior to the establishment of the trade routes. The majority of the subjects of the empire were black africans, but it was not their organically emerging civilization/ the rulers and elite were muslims and Timbuktu was an utterly islamic city.

>>135351031

Care to explain Roman Empire VS Viking mud huts with this theory?

>>135361068
So you warn them. Warn them that anyone who ever criticizes them in any way is a "bad" person, someone not to be listened to. Someone whose frame of reference makes them unable or unwilling to see the damage they're causing your students. Anything bad that can be said about them is just like, someone's opinion, man. Someone's bigoted, transphobic, misogynist, transmisogynist opinion.

Everyone has things that are worthy of criticism, and sometimes you need to be able to take that in stride, or better yet, LISTEN to what the other person has to say. This is how you improve. This is what lets you know whether you're doing the right things.

But no, you trained them to spot enemies, like a mother hen teaching her chicks to beware of the circling hawk. No time to think, just act-- your fragile preconceived notions are at stake!

Good job, Mr. Liberal teacher! You've enslaved your students to easy answers and refused to let them adapt to the world that they're going to have to live in. You've made them believe in lies, given them convenient third parties to blame whenever anything in their lives goes wrong, and you've made them utterly incapable of comprehending the truth, because you've told them that anyone who tells them any truth that makes them unCOMfortable is a shitlord with a cache of nazi gold they're trying to protect by making them believe the evidence of their eyes.

What you've done is inoculated them against the truth.

Story's over. You can get back to your normal nazi, alt-right, racist selves now.

>>135363877
I got a little propagandistic towards the end there, but I hope this helps some of you understand the thought process of regular liberals (assuming I was coherent... I probably need to start editing my stuff). They aren't wholly malevolent. There are definitely some real psychopaths among them, like the bikelock guy, but you can see how they can even tolerate that kind of thing when it's directed against the right (wrong) people.

And I hope you can understand why they think they're justified in marginalizing people with the wrong opinions, and I hope I've convinced some of you not to fall into that same cognitive trap.

>>135329395
Because rain is a blessing.

>>135332742
Got em

>>135363921

Good posts, but I hope you realize 99% of the "racist nazis" are just people who understand everything you said, and are not willing to let their children live in a world dominated by those people without trying to fight it. You are as much a "racist nazi" as anyone on this board.

>>135329534
100% dude...these chinks and Hindus that come to Canada can only survive along the border with america...faggots couldn't handle a day in the maritimes or northern bc,ab,sk

>>135358760
Sorry, not for those specific numbers (I heard them deep in a lecture video from youtube, most /pol/acks reading probably know which professor. I'll see if I can dig up the specific link for you).

Search for articles about the minnesota twin study, and the follow-up studies replicating its findings. I'm reading now that they found it was the HERITABILITY of IQ that's 70%, not 50% as I said earlier.

https://www.livescience.com/47288-twin-study-importance-of-genetics.html
https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702304898704577478482432277706
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn1520-iq-is-inherited-suggests-twin-study/

Links if you're lazy.

>>135364334

How well do you think you would do during an Ebola outbreak? The south is harder to live in then the north, I have lived in both.

>>135354316
I don't think you know what 'nihilist' means friend. :o)

>>135364573
I'd fucking die for sure...- thought I was gonna die during the SARS outbreak haha I was working at CBC before they officially announced the outbreak and we had to wear masks and they gave us free immune system booster pills. The name escapes me right now but ya. I'm sure I'd be fucked right now. I'm originally from northern bc but now living in vancouver. I hate life. Can't wait to move back north

>>135364214
I was being facetious. I actually agree that it's important for a society to be somewhat homogeneous. Indiscriminate mixing just destroys the vibrant diversity liberals claim to love.

It was never diversity they liked, though, not in the deepest part of their hearts.

There are a sizable minority of them who are legitimately resentful, and hate the west, hate white people, hate men, and want to build a world that makes those people miserable. They're basically rebelling against their parents. I'm just ignoring them for now-- there's nothing you can say or do with them. They're too far gone to extend any kind of understanding to.

I'm interested in the kind of liberals want to create a world in which nobody is ever *un*comfortable. Where nobody ever feels like they don't belong. People for whom it's about preventing negative emotion, and disregarding the fact that negative emotion is very often accompanied by positive change.

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>>135329395
Maybe genes have something to do with it?

http://science.sciencemag.org/content/309/5741/1720

(2005) Mekel-Bobrov et al., conclude that the gene ASPM is a specific regulator of brain size, and its evolution in the lineage leading to Homo sapiens was driven by strong positive selection. They show that one genetic variant of ASPM in humans arose merely about 5.800 years ago in Eurasia and has since swept to high frequency across Eurasia under strong positive selection.

The gene is almost non-existent in Sub-Saharan Africa.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18292342

(2008) Li JZ et. al., show the distinct population groups of the Earth by genetically testing individuals from each population group and mapping them by their single nucleotide polymorphisms.

Only three groups - South Asians, Central (West) Asians, and East Asians have overlaps while Middle Easterners, Central Asians, and Indian South Asians have genetic contributions from European population groups. There is no genetic continuum between Africans and any other population group alive. The 40.000 years of evolution put between the rest of Mankind and Africans can be shown as the source of this.

This finding is supported by (Lao et. al., 2006; Costas et. al., 2005; Xing et. al., 2010 (1); Xing et. al., 2010 (2); Jakobsson et. al., 2008; Huang et. al., 2011; Paşaniuc et. al., 2010; Huang et. al., 2009; Hao et. al., 2009; Nothnagel et. al., 2009; Chanda et. al., 2012)

>>135363872
Easy. I explain it by saying you're taking the theory from the wrong direction.

It's pretty clear that the need to plan to survive correlates with populations developing a future-time orientation. That's almost too obvious a statement to have to make, but I made it.

I don't claim that's the only way it can happen, nor do I say a cold weather population will always be more advanced than a warm weather one.

If by south you mean equatorial sure

>>135353121
most autistic thing I've read in months

>>135368172
no u

>>135329395
THE SUN IS RAAAAAAYYYYYCCCCIIIIIISSSSSS DESTROY THE SUN REEEEEEEE

>>135370211
I agree. It's up there in the sky, thinks it's so high above us, in its ivory tower, a beacon of whiteness, putting out 99% white light. It's time we knocked it down a few pegs.

>>135332988
:^)

>>135363872
>Viking mud huts
A complete and total meme.

Is the fact that you don't have to prepare for winter what makes the tropics poor for developing civilization?

>>135371473
No. It's the fact that in more hospitable environments, the best reproductive strategy isn't something that requires mental capacity. It's having more children.

This actually creates a selective pressure AGAINST intelligence. The brain is a very complex organ that takes a long time to develop, and a lot of energy. Energy that could be spent getting kids out the door quicker and having more of them.

You can even see the consequences of this in the hip size of women-- black women have large butts, but very thin hips. This lets them run faster and have greater endurance than white women, whose hips are wider.

White women have to pass newborns whose heads are huge. Black babies heads aren't so big, so they can pass through a much smaller aperture.

I'm really tired, but I don't feel like shoring this up. Read about it yourself.

>>135329395
I don't know about that, OP.
Argentina, southern Brazil, Chile, and Uruguay seem to be doing better than everything in the Americas north of them until you his the United States in terms of nominal GDP per capita and GDP PPP per capita.
Then there is Botswana, Namibia, and South Africa, whose nominal GDP and GDP PPP per capita is higher than nearly every country north of it.
Then there is Australia, New Zealand, and Singapore, which have a higher nominal GDP and GDP PPP per capita than anything else in Oceania and Southeast Asia. National economic strength and the wealth of the average inhabitant seems to be the result of cultures that heavily value political stability and the attainment of higher education that would enable those countries that have the manufacturing sector as the sort of base the working class has instead of just simply relying on resource extraction, with the middle and upper class being mostly involved in service industries, information technology, and finance.
What set those countries apart was the fact that they're smart, and the value intelligence. Their greatest drawback is that they were all lead by an elite which valued education, infrastructure development, sciences and economics, but are now almost all liberal democracies with universal sufferage that enables people who don't know much about anything to have influence over the government of their countries.

>>135339667
>no correlation between war and wealth

Okay bucko

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>>135349875
most people live in the moderate/temperate southeast, and those outside of it are coastal

it can still be hot, but there's still seasonal variety

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>>135342507
But that's wrong retard.

Most poor countries are in the Equator, not the "Southern Hemisphere".

>>135360574
http://www.wateraid.org/uk/news/news/why-walk-for-water-your-seven-biggest-questions-answered
Question 1
>>135362057
> Comparing races to colors
I don't think so. Races are a certain biological term applied to animals like dogs and horses. I see no way to, in a strict biological sense, call the H. sapiens' diversity a racial one. Also, I never said there's no genetic diversity in humans, just that these, as you said, "genetic differences" are not enough to justify segregation or any other type of racism based in how a organ as plastic as the brain develops in each individual. I know that in a battle of anecdotal experiences no one wins, but I cannot accept coal-colored people I've come to know and that I recognize as more intelligent than myself could be considered inferior just because of something as trivial as skin tone. It indeed has some moral roots, but I'd be the first one to "convert" if I were presented with irrefutable proof of the total incapacity of said race / ethnicity or wathever of being fully fonctioning humans as we are.
>>135363586
> On Mali and Kush
I agree with >>135362390 anon that influences of Islam over them don't strip their cilization of their merits. As for the Kush, I didn't know they had also neanderthalic DNA, and I will trust you. But anyway, I don't think this would be anything considerable, like the 3% you said whites have. Therefore, I can't consider the latter Empire to be anything other than fully black H. sapiens, just as I can't consider the malians arabs just because of their religion. Eg., the Romans kept being Romans after contacting Greece, Phoenicia, Jews, Germanic tribes, etc, etc.
>>135362772
http://www.tested.com/science/life/454072-why-bigger-neanderthal-brains-didnt-make-them-smarter-humans/
Out of all this article, the interesting part for me was that "interbreeding" betwen H. sapiens and H. neanderthalensi is still a theory. I was already treating this as a fact! My brain is full of bugs...

>>135364533
I've read the first and the last articles (the second one is behind a pay wall), and I won't dispute this. In fact, after reading, I agree with all this. The problem lies in that these genes are not distributed in the same way skin-tone genes are, therefore making any correlation spurious, as these don't mean causation. For example, that sickle-cell anemia "is more common in blacks" is due to the related gene being common in West African populations, which are the most numerous ones. In other words, it doesn't justify in any way the existence of races. Remember, I never said there's no genetical variabilty in H. sapiens populations.

As for the big wall of text you wrote, I agree with you, but I think those radicals you described are not common enough to make any Orwellian SJW dystopia possible. These guys are, for me, upside down nazis, a vocal minory (mainly due to right-wing alarmists), and history shows us that extemism never succeeds.

>>135376640
>>135376640
>I know that in a battle of anecdotal experiences no one wins, but I cannot accept coal-colored people I've come to know and that I recognize as more intelligent than myself could be considered inferior just because of something as trivial as skin tone. It indeed has some moral roots, but I'd be the first one to "convert" if I were presented with irrefutable proof of the total incapacity of said race / ethnicity or wathever of being fully fonctioning humans as we are.
>>>135363586

Stop making it about individuals when its really millions of people. Averages matter when you take in millions from Africa or the Middle east. If those people are dumber more, violent on average. Society as a result will reflect that.

>>135360526
This is the future that awaits every little retarded nigger when the white race finally goes extinct.

Nobody to feed the beast! They will be food for vultures, beetles and maggots - as nature intended it!

It would be so sweet watching them all starve to death I wish I could be there to see it. No whites to keep the parasite alive and well fed!

>>135378764
Yes, I'm not pro immigration, as I agree with the "would you eat some M&M if there was a poisoned one etc." comparison. I'm talking solely about races, and this same biological term does not let a single individual of said race to go beyond the given capacities of its well limited genetic code and phenotypical variability. That's why I'm questioning it, but we still agree in the solution of the real world problem you've presented (if it's not gassing them to death, just letting them outside. We're on /pol/ after all... just to avoid confusion).

>>135349828
castizos you fucking moron

>>135353121
i want my two minutes back please

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>>135329752
Australian people live in the temperate areas actually

>>135330658
>what is Roman Empire, Ottoman Empire, South China, Taiwan, Singapore and Malaysia

>>135333077
It's simple really. Melanin is the root of all evil.