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Charlie Grad is dead.

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Britcucks are child killers in the name of socialism.

https://twitter.com/breaking911/status/890985086518276097
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>>135296167
Why pay to keep a vegetable alive?
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Who the fuck is this nigger and why should I care?
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>>135296167
Hahaah. We won!
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>>135296236
why pay to keep you alive?
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>>135296248
single-payer healthcare, same system where democrats want us to go next. Death panels
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Were going to read about this for years like we did with maddie mccann aren't we.
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>>135296167
Good. Now I can stop hearing about him and his suffering has ended.
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>>135296414
No because in this instance the parents tried time keep the kid alive
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>>135296522
Nice
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>>135296304
>potato nigger
your entire ethnic population has been subsidized by everyone else.
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The kid had a debilitating, incurable, congential disease for which there existed no treatment. Death was inevitable, but the parents, wrought with grief, had deluded themselves into believing that there existed some miracle treatment that would have somehow reversed the damage to his failing organs, restored his sight, restrored his hearing, repaired his atrophied, wasted muscles, and turned him into a normal little boy. It was a complete fantasy from the beginning.

Funniest thing about American's attacking the NHS over this is that they completely fail to twig on yet that had Charlie Gard been born an American, he wouldn't have lasted even 5 months because his parents wouldn't have been able to afford his healthcare in the first place, they would have have to crowdfund it on JustGiving or GoFundMe, which is fast becoming the US' largest healthcare provider lmao
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>>135296167

>allowing the government to decide if your baby dies

Talk about KEKS
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https://youtu.be/04854XqcfCY
Charlie Gard on suicide watch. NHS wins again
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>>135296167
YESSSS

SINGLE PAYER FOR USA WHEN?
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>>135296618
>Funniest thing about American's attacking the NHS over this is that they completely fail to twig on yet that had Charlie Gard been born an American, he wouldn't have lasted even 5 months because his parents wouldn't have been able to afford his healthcare in the first place
baby healthcare is covered under the parents coverage, shove it up your ass britbong
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>>135296373
>death panels
So you think it's kinder to keep a deaf, blind, increasingly brain-dead child alive for the sake of politics and 'muh religion'.

Americans truly are congenitally retarded.
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>>135296167
Ch
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So what was the deal? The British Government wouldn't pay for an experimental treatment which probably wouldn't have worked?

How's that any different than literally anywhere else?

What's the story here?
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>Be Britcucks
>Let Brit baby die
>Keep Muslims on government gibs

Honestly, all of Europe and the UK deserves to be nuked.
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>>135296618

No, we weren't going to reverse his "damage". We were going to use the opportunity to test an experimental treatment on a live patient so we could get data for future patients, but you fucking Brits want to micromanage everything instead of allowing the free market to work freely.

The baby should have been allowed to go to the US, where we would have tortured it with medical procedures and then it would have died, but the family would have been happy and the British commies would have been upset because they were superseded.

Also, fuck you and your monkey country loyalists. USA USA USA
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>>135296794
>Be Ameriturd
>Unironically believe you can cure a vegetarian like Charlie
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>all the money in the world to take care of other people's problems and import criminals
>not a dime to spend on your native born Brits

Pretty telling of what a soulless godless """counry""" the UK has become, almost as disgusting as muslims smell.
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What a sad story. Poor kid.
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>>135296847
>No, we weren't going to reverse his "damage". We were going to use the opportunity to test an experimental treatment on a live patient so we could get data for future patients, but you fucking Brits want to micromanage everything instead of allowing the free market to work freely.
this
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I'm jealous desu. He never had to grow up to hate his society.
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>>135296871
Dumb cunt he couldn't be helped
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Meanwhile MILLIONS of black babies die in Africa every day and nobody gives a shit.

But one white baby dies of a rare disease and everyone loses their mind.

Remind me again how racism doesn't exist, fuckers?
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It's all been posted before. Condolences to the family, this was a tough call but the right one.

If you did even the tiniest bit of research into the whole case, you'd quickly realise that Charlie was doomed to die in infancy before we or Dr Hirano had even heard of him. The whole US doctor thing, was the glimmer of hope for a desperate young family ;_;
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>>135296728
>baby healthcare is covered under the parents coverage
And if they don't have sufficient coverage, then what? The kid deserves o treatment because his parents are dirt poor?
btw it's parent's*, possesive.

>shove it up your ass britbong
Why don't you come do it for me big boy. I've heard your sort are prone to that sort of activity, not that I'm judging - diversity and all that ;)
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>>135296777
>The British Government wouldn't pay for an experimental treatment which probably wouldn't have worked?
Yeah, they preferred giving the money to ahmed so he can lure more english kids in his pedophile ring.
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The government can tell you that your child must die because the chances that he will survive are low and he's in pain.
Socialism yes.
Did Stephan do a video about this yet?
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>>135296248
Basically:
>parents of a terminally ill baby wanted to keep the baby on life support
>NHS doesn't pay for vegetable babies
>parents REEEEEE and try to take baby to US
>Government says no
>parents try to get baby put in hospice at home
>Government says no
>parents try to raise money for extra treatment
>Government says no
>baby dies
>outrage

I understand not paying for the terminally I'll on the taxpayers dime, not the rest. I will always wonder: if the baby was a paki, would NHS have payed for it?
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>>135296864
>Implying I am American
Nice try Ahmed.
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R.I.P
Fucking UK
We bombed the wrong cunts
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>>135296618
It's great when some paki from across the great waters tries to tell us how our insurance works.
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>>135296847
This. You stupid gnarled tooth faggots ruined a chance for some real good to come of this.
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>>135296763
It is the parents' choice, not some faceless bureaucrat.
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>>135296763
>lost your entire empire in one war
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>>135296954
At least try and make your post not look like an obvious troll, schlomo
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you know if this kid was a shit skin he would still be alive now.
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>>135296847
>wanted to subject an infant to painful experimentation and prolong their suffering for the opportunity to use them as a guinea pig
>"WAHHHHHHHH, UNFEELING BRITS, BABY MURDERERS, SOCIALISM RUINS ERRYFING"

Kek
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>>135296167
He died or was killed?
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>>135296961
>And if they don't have sufficient coverage, then what? The kid deserves o treatment because his parents are dirt poor?
they still get treatment at the hospital.

not sure why you think we should be giving homeless people with babies healthcare but ok.
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>>135296763
>So you think it's kinder to keep a deaf, blind, increasingly brain-dead child alive for the sake of politics and 'muh religion'.
if the parents want to do it then by all means, go ahead. but i shouldn't have to pay into a system that keeps a potato alive for another year.
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>>135296763
It should be up to the parents not some unelected fucking bean counter.
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>>135296871
>not a dime to spend on your native born Brits

The baby already had taxpayer money spent on looking after it, even with terminal illness.Why should British taxpayers pay for a multi million £ operation with a <10% sucess rate?

Sorry to break it to you, snowflake, but one life isn't really worth that much.
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American actually think the NHS is a system of murderous death panels and that their for-profit system results in the best outcomes.

kek
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Americans are fucking dumb. You're actually stupid. As per usual you try to shoehorn pakis into an irrelevant situation.

The kid was brain-dead. He was irreparably fucked. It was for the best
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>>135297006
If that kid were a shitskin they would have saved his life. No expense is spared saving an ape, but let the white kid die because??? well fuck white people!
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>>135296954
Because we have the capabilities to save the baby as opposed to Africa where life is worth next to nothing.
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RIP kiddo.

F.

Sucks those kike doctors who don't want to let the rest of the world know how absolutely shit NHS specialty care is didn't let him go. "His best interests" my ass. Fucking sick how a court and doctors can trump a parents wishes. If he was going to die regardless he could at least taken his 10% shot when the window was there instead of being forced to suffer during a court battle. Effective or not, it was his only shot and his parents should have the right to decide his treatment as long as it isn't some completely proven fruitless bullshit.

Even if the treatment didn't save his life he could have saved others with his research data, from a treatment his parents were perfectly able to pay for privately without involving taxpayer funds.

Fuck em. All about image and control and court precedence to maintain control. Then they have the balls to complain about "horrific social media abuse" and cry to the police because they were called baby killers online.

This country is fucked. The people are pussies and the system is an overreacting, overreaching, nanny state bullshit pile.

Can't believe I ever left America and came back to this shit hole. Can't wait to be in Ireland soon at least. The UK deserves everything bad happening to it.
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>>135296777
The government would have paid, and in fact the money had already been raised. The issue was that the treatment was in an extremely early, experimental stage that hadn't even been tested on animals, and the high courts ruled that it was inhumane to subject a blind, deaf, suffering infant to potentially painful, prolonged treatment when his death was already a definite.
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>>135296847
>(((free market)))
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>>135296763
Its the parents choice, not the states.
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F
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>When the hospital was informed that the Professor had new laboratory findings causing him to believe NBT would be more beneficial to Charlie than he had previously opined, GOSH’s hope for Charlie and his parents was that that optimism would be confirmed. It was, therefore, with increasing surprise and disappointment that the hospital listened to the Professor’s fresh evidence to the Court. On 13 July he stated that not only had he not visited the hospital to examine Charlie but in addition, he had not read Charlie’s contemporaneous medical records or viewed Charlie’s brain imaging or read all of the second opinions about Charlie’s condition (obtained from experts all of whom had taken the opportunity to examine him and consider his records) or even read the Judge’s decision made on 11 April. Further, GOSH was concerned to hear the Professor state, for the first time, whilst in the witness box, that he retains a financial interest in some of the NBT compounds he proposed prescribing for Charlie. Devastatingly, the information obtained since 13 July gives no cause for optimism. Rather, it confirms that whilst NBT may well assist others in the future, it cannot and could not have assisted Charlie.

Get angry about "death panels" all you want lads, bend the message to suit your impotent rage. You're wrong and the poor kid had no chance.
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Tell me again why parents shouldn't have the right to try to save their childs life? Money was no issue, but communists would rather the child die than have him slip from their control.

Brits are dead to me. As of right now they are lower to me than the lowest Turkroach.
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>>135297237
>Fucking sick how a court and doctors can trump a parents wishes

Seriously, this is terrifying, damning. Absolutely disgusting.
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>>135296847
kek

>Shoulda given him to Unit 731, stupid le bongs!
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>>135297045
Friendly reminder that Britain actually has a better standard of dental care in the US and few cavities and missing teeth per person on average :^)
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>>135297110
>wanting to advance science to help improve medical procedures that would be used to save others.
>you're going to hurt the baby, just kill it already. why are Americans so retarded
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>>135296167
Politics aside, he was probably going to die soon no matter what.
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The treatment shouldn't have been allowed but the Judges ruling against the baby dying at home was fucking egregious
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>>135297309
>death is preferable to suffering
There's that brilliant abortion logic at work again.
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>>135296954
The issue is more that the parents had the means of giving him a chance but muh single payer NHS told them to sit and spin so he died waiting on legal bullshit in a hospital. Had he just died, nobody would care.
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>>135297110

As socialists, you lot should understand "for the greater good" better than anyone else. This child's "feelings" were inconsequential to the medical data that would have been gained through the proposed treatment. On top of that, the parents WANTED the treatment.

Though, it really is their fault depending on the NHS and freebie medicine plus they aren't married and both appear to be degenerates, so it's not much of a loss in the grand scheme of things.
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>>135297376
He would still be alive if he was a nigger.
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>>135297063
No it's not, because what the parents were proposing was abuse, and when kid's are being abused by their parents they're removed from their custody (not in the US though apparently). They were not in the right mind which was brought on by extreme grief, and obviously, because you're a burger and don't keep up with the news here then you'd know it was actually the parent's decision to turn off his life support after they saw his latest scan and realised there was no hope.
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>>135297237
>Fucking sick how a court and doctors can trump a parents wishes

Because parents are more qualified than doctors to make medical decisions?

Because some random people who chose to shit out a baby have the right to spend my taxes funding million £ operations that are 90% likely to fail?

Do us all a favour and neck yourself you emotional child.
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Press S to spit on his corpse

SSSSSSSS

How dare he oppose the might of the NHS
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>>135297162
>Why should British taxpayers pay for a multi million £ operation with a <10% sucess rate?
source on this?

i dont think you britshits were paying anything and you still denied them.
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>>135296601
>when you cant attack a persons argument you attack the flag
you are not worth keeping alive friend, kill yourself
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>>135297110

>won't even let the parents take their child home to die
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>>135296949
>>135297162
>"Waahhh m-m-muh money"

Meanwhile you spend millions looking after "refugees" and "migrants". The clean up after your numerous terrorist attacks could've payed for his bill, regardless of whether he would die.

Enjoy caring about money before your own people, shitskin lovers.
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>>135296167
huzzah another success of socialized government run Healthcare. Gards parents must be escstatic with how little this whole ordeal cost them.
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>>135297309
Seems reasonable. What's the issue?
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>>135297231
Don't bother, you're arguing with sub-90 IQ non-whites
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>>135297611
He was a waste of money and time. Any rational person would just kill it and have another kid
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>>135297445
Why the fuck shouldn't the treatment have been allowed? I swear you britbongs are lost.
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>>135297354
>>135297160
>>135297158
You all genuinely believe that it should be a parent's choice to subject an infant to prolonged suffering and painful experimentation? Is this why child abuse statistics are off the charts in the US? I didn't realise people were property in the good ol'... oh.... wait.
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>>135297618
They unironically made over a £1million through donations from the public.
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>>135297568
Yes. Don't appeal to authority. Doctors provide a service. As the person receiving the service, they answer to me.
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>>135297581
They'd rather spend it on Tyrone and Muhammed. Doomed morons.
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Brits really suffer from a creepy collective neuroticism with their worship of the state.
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>>135297490

They didn't though, GOSH had already considered the treatment that Dr Hirano, who hadn't even done his homework before naming his price, was offering. It was seen as unsuitable for Charlie because of the extensive brain damage he had already suffered.

Dr Hirano was invited to see Charlie as early as January, but only showed in recent weeks.
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british people are disgusting cowards. letting that baby die so they can feed mohammed the terrorist and give him 3 apartments for all his kids.

please trump nuke that shit hole.
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>>135297172

NHS is a death panel. "GOSH" (what a name for a hospital by the way, THAT'S RIGHT, IT'S A HOSPITAL OR THE HOSPITAL NOT HOSPITAL LIKE YOU FUCKING FAGGOTS SAY IT IS) decided unilaterally what the baby's fate was. It was a death panel and the parents couldn't do shit about it. Your baby dies because we say so, ha ha ha, even the Bannister said it was sad reading.

See, in America, we can go wherever the fuck we want to, get as many opinions as we want, and have whatever done that needs to be done to advance society as a whole.

>inb4 costing a lot of money

Children's hospitals exist to treat issues like this. Shriner's would have covered this kid's shit for free. I know because I'm a Mason.
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>>135296960
Yep. In fact, that it was given so much coverage at all makes me think the whole thing was another psyop.

>Kony
>Snowden leaks
>BLM
>Jade Helm
>Shemitah
>new wave of islamic terrorist attacks over the past 1-2 years
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>>135296167
Charlie Gard was truly a British an hero.
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>>135297611
>it's impossible to oppose both refugees and funding retarded operations
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>>135297748
Now where do they deposit that 1 million pounds to revive their dead baby? The NHS?
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>>135296167
It was a cabbage with no hope of surviving, if i get like that i would want the plug pulled.
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>>135297724
>looking after the third world isnt a waste of time or money

Then let them have another kid, and when that kid has an illness I'll come back to yet again laugh at your endorsement of non-whites in Britain.
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>>135297815
Dumb dumb The kid was brain-dead. There was NO chance of him living a meaningful or satisfying life at all. It was for the best
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>>135296167
Good
why the hell were people making a big fuss about it in the first place?
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Man britbongs just come out of the woodworks to defend the NHS. I swear to God whenever you see a British politician post anything on twitter some bong replies with "hand off muh NHS!"
It's like niggers and SNAP
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>>135297556
It wasn't abuse, it was parents trying to save their child and a faceless communistic government stopping them. There is no justification for britains actions. You all need to fucking burn.
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>>135297914
>Wah if you don't want to waste money on vegetables that means you're anti white
Get fucked, anti-eugenics scum
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>government gets to decide who recieves health care or not

that's retarded you fucking mongs
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>>135297389
reminder that your country has no good tasting food in it.
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>>135297839
Personally I'm glad places like St Jude's exist in America.
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>>135297608
They wouldn't let them take him home because the baby had never even BEEN to that home and they couldn't fit their necessary equipment through their door you fat, burger-gobbling cuck. Do keep up lad.
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>>135297873
Yea, its damn near impossible for the UK considering how cucked you are.
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ITT: britbongs defend the state's capacity to decide who can live or die.
We all know the baby was doomed. But the parents have the freedom to seek out second opinions and to waste their money as they see fit.
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>>135298041
You're not entitled to health care. What are you a communist?
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I wasn't going to repost myself but you lads are being really fucking dense.

This case just isn't that simple, if you actually take more than a minute to look at any of the evidence. It's crushingly sad all around but I think this is the right call.
I feel awful for the child and parents, who have been strung along on false hope really, mostly relating to the absence of this US doctor, Dr Hirano, until this weekend. For example Charlie had not had an MRA scan in months before these recent developments because his parents did not wish him to, perhaps because it would show evidence of a lack of brain growth, which they have repeatedly attempted to deny.
When Charlie was first diagnosed with this disease, Great Ormond Street reached out around the world for help, and Dr Hirano announced himself in the media. The US doctor was invited to the UK back in January by the hospital, but did not respond; and the nucleotide therapy he was proposing in the media had already been considered by the UK team and used in other patients by them in the past, but due to the massive seizures it caused for very limited chance of improvement in his case, it was not deemed suitable.
Even at his most optimistic, Dr Hirano was only saying he could possibly halt the mitochondrial damage with his experimental technique, and made no mention of reversing his brain damage or his other awful conditions.
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>>135296167
Mitochondria are the energy-producing 'motors' inside all living cells - including brain cells and muscle cells.

Study:
Thimerosal-Derived Ethylmercury Is a Mitochondrial Toxin in Human Astrocytes

From the abstract:
"We find that ethylmercury not only inhibits mitochondrial respiration leading to a drop in the steady state membrane potential, but also concurrent with these phenomena increases the formation of superoxide, hydrogen peroxide, and Fenton/Haber-Weiss generated hydroxyl radical. These oxidants increase the levels of cellular aldehyde/ketones. Additionally, we find a five-fold increase in the levels of oxidant damaged mitochondrial DNA bases and increases in the levels of mtDNA nicks and blunt-ended breaks. Highly damaged mitochondria are characterized by having very low membrane potentials, increased superoxide/hydrogen peroxide production, and extensively damaged mtDNA and proteins. These mitochondria appear to have undergone a permeability transition, an observation supported by the five-fold increase in Caspase-3 activity
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>>135298046
>never had Toad in the Hole
Sad!
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>>135297873
>argue its too expensive
>ignore the fact that you're spending 200 grand a year alone on muhammeds family
hmm
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>>135296167
Dibs
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>>135297764
>Doctors provide a service. As the person receiving the service, they answer to me.

Yeah, that's the American way. You literally have TV adverts telling you to "recommend" drugs to your doctors (who are already paid to shill on behalf of pharma corps).
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>>135297568
>you taxes

So you don't fucking know anything about this at all? His medical expenses had all been funded. Fucking commies justifying the murder of a child.
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>>135298123
The government is not an insurance company, I think YOU are the communist
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>>135297799
No. By the time all the legal shit was done, he had too much brain damage. Had he gone in the beginning it's POSSIBLE that he could have come out on the other side. It's not about race, just legal bullshit that comes with single payer that tells you you have to die and you can't take a risk on experimental treatment because reasons.
They should have been allowed to try this long ago without my NHS having them wait around until it was too late.
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>>135296167
>keeping a kid (with no hopes to surivive on his own and have a normal life) alive at all costs and start a media campaign over it
The parents are the assholes here
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>>135298038
>"m-muh monies could be spent on trayvon though!!"
>im anti-eugenics because I dont want shitskins in my country like you do

Yes I'm sure Hitler would be proud. Mental midget
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>>135298046
If our country has no 'good food' by American standards that's probably the reason we have more fucking teeth kek
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>>135297006
Yep, that pretty much sums it up. My understanding is the baby had no chance of survival, but the government walked all over those parents. "Your baby will die in our hospital. Deal with it."
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>>135298116
IPTG: Retards who will defend (((capitalists))) forcing people to live a pointless life so they can sponge as much money out of those families with products and specialities
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As much as I want to do nothing but rail against the NHS, we should also take a moment to say a prayer for the baby and for his parents who are going through the worst, most unimaginable grief a human can experience.
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>>135298224
The government is not forced to give you things you entitled nigger. I almost hate Charlie Gard now because of you retarded American faggots
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>>135298186
So a doctor's opinion is law? If a doctor says I have terminal cancer in britbongistan then i have to die because he said so? I can't go to another doctor and see if he sees alternatives? Sounds like a cucked system to me.
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>>135297992
>Man britbongs just come out of the woodworks to defend the NHS.
Sorry I forgot Americans were the real experts on the NHS
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>>135298254

http://www.gosh.nhs.uk/frequently-asked-questions-about-charlie-gard-court-case

It was always too late, you're being dense mate.
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>>135296167
>>135296373
>>135296414
All of you faggots need to calm down.
What was his medical issue?
Why was it considered untreatable?
Why did Trump's offer to let them come here fizzle out?

I guarantee you the fucker had an ACTUAL TERMINAL ILLNESS and everyone jumped on the "save a white baby" bandwagon with zero knowledge of how it would have even been possible to save him.

Sage thread, btw.

>>135296618
This. Whatever it was that no one knows took his life. Not the medical services (which is yes, fucked up).
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>>135297063
Somehow I doubt if the parents were Schizophrenics your opinion would be the same.
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>>135298033
Trying to save a child that couldn't be saved. He was deaf, blind and rapidly on his way to brain death. People like you shouldn't be allowed to have children if that's how you'd treat them you buffoon.
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>>135298339
I never said it was you dense mother fucker
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>>135297568
>Because parents are more qualified than doctors to make medical decisions?
The state does not own the child. The parents make the decisions. If those decisions are threatening to the child then there is a due process that is used to deal with that.
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>>135298345
>needing to defend a good healthcare system
its obvious its shit and thats why you're here.
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>>135296167
WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU BONGS
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>>135296167
Good. Poor kid was a waste of life, time and money.
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>>135298309
Wow. You unironically defend the state dooming you to die. Britbongs are beyond saving.
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>>135298213
>vegetable child dies
>he was murdered!
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>>135298345
We really dont know much about your healthcare system or all the details for Charlie, but we know damn well its fucking idiotic to keep importing shitskins and you couldn't let a baby stay alive for another week.
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>>135297899
Seeing as the child is gone now, I can't see any other logical course of action than to give back all the money.

Of course they could keep it and use it to create some kind of bullshit 'muh Charlie' foundation. Their true colours will be revealed soon enough.
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>>135298288
Nobody is talking about Trayvon you dumb colonial vermin. White vegetables are a drain on the white race
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>>135298345
Well, you guys and the fucking leafs and aussies always seem to be experts about American politics, so turnabout is fair play.
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>>135296618
yanks irreversibly BTFO yet again by another intellectual brit poster
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>>135298410
Even still you rob the parents of seeing if there was a chance. Should have been their choice.
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>>135296167
>The Doctor Great Ormond Street needs
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>>135296167

F
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>>135298064
why does it matter if they can't get the equipment through the door. what would happen without the equipment, the kid dies? that's the whole fucking point.
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>>135296167
if he was brown then the NHS would have done everything to save him
the absolute state of the UK
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>>135298508
when you have zero quality of life and offer nothing to the nation then yes.
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>>135298511
It's how the whole ordeal was played out. The government was judge jury and executioner. "you're baby is toast. No we won't let you try to save your vegetable. What are you monsters??"
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>>135298467
>The parents make the decisions. If those decisions are threatening to the child then there is a due process that is used to deal with that.

And that "due process" took place, with doctors and judges ruling that treatment would prolong the child's suffering and not yield positive results.
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>>135296601
>>135296236
>doesn't value life
>thinks potato niggers are bad
You must be an actual nigger, or at the very least a spic. Only shitskins devalue life.
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>>135298549
>dumb
>ancestors were smart enough to leave the cucked shithole known as Europe

Trayvon is just slang for black guy, something your country will be full of in a week. Stupid old world faggot.
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>Americans: haha socialist systems r cucked. If you can't pay for treatment then die
>Americans: holy fuk bongs why didn't you subsidies the existence of a brain-dead mong just because he was white?
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>>135297235
>we have the capabilities to save the baby
do you really actually fucking believe this
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>>135298665
Fuck off statist cunt. Go back to boot licking.
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>>135297568
>Because some random people who chose to shit out a baby have the right to spend my taxes funding million £ operations that are 90% likely to fail?
You are a retard that can't read. The family raised their own money. If anything, if they would went to the USA using their own money your tyrannical retard government woulda saved money in legal and medical feeds. Do you have a brain or do you just allow yourself to be continually brainwashed?
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>>135298442
He was only on his way to braindeath because your fucking government wouldn't allow treatment earlier. Stop worshiping the state you fucking communist piece of garbage.
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>>135298762
You're the one crying over a vegetable boy you Canadian poofer
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Rip little man, you eacaped the evil World.


You cannot say it often enough,

Our courts are full of enemies
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>>135297006
You what? Totally wrong

>baby born with severe genetic condition
>parents are told it's untreatable, the child is almost a vegetable and is in constant pain with no hope of it getting better
>an unproven treatment is available in america
>parents given false hope, raise millions to take child to america
>child is not allowed to be moved to america because the law values the wellbeing of children over the opinion of their parents, basically to stop things like genital mutilation and parents who refuse to treat kids
>courts judge the case and say the move is not in the best interests of the child as it would only prolong his suffering and give the parents false hope
>there have been other cases where children have been able to go to other countries for treatment that actually works
>murican doctors want their money and data, pull a number out of their arses and say the treatment has a 10% chance of working to give parents false hope
>scandal starts to blow up, child becomes a political football
>parents go to european courts, which rule the same way as the british courts, and say that treatment is not going to help
>trump and the pope stick their noses in
>murican doctors keep saying the treatment would help
>parents demand medical equipment be moved to their house so the child can die at home
>NHS says no, they cannot send doctors out of the hospital for round the clock monitoring
>parents start another campaign
>kid dies

The parents were in denial from the start and could not let go.
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>>135296167
Socialized medicine folks coming to a democratic US of A near you. Be born too sick or too small and the state will terminate you! Enjoy your mixed race balkenized fascism losers.
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>>135296620
>performing medical experiments on infants
even worse
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>>135298763
THE PARENTS HAD THE MONEY TO TREAT THE KID. TRUMP OFFERED TO PAY FOR EVERYTHING. FUCK OFF STATIST KEK.
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>>135298491

Kid with terminal illness and desperate parents dies, pro-lifers weaponise it and use it to rail against a public health service that spent millions looking after the poor boy.

Yanks actually pay MORE in taxes each on public healthcare than us and most of Western Europe, except then they are also expected to pay private companies Health Insurance. And the end result is healthcare that is bad-to-average amongst developed nations, and a big fat profit for insurers. You should be rioting.
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>>135296954
mediocre quality bait
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>>135297555
This. It's always about refugees and niggers first.

This is all the kikes care about. They will throw anyone white under the bus for the niggers.

There is only one good thing about this. As the sand niggers and niggers increase in Europe, so does anti-semitism against the kike. Eventually, western nations will become hostile to them to the extent they have no allies. They will all flee to Israel of course, but without a tolerant Jew loving west who will guard the kikes? They will have to deal with superpowers like Iran, China and Russia while a new Islamic nigger west turns its head the other way.

In the end, you're all going to die. Yahwehs chosen kikes will be no more! lol

When the planet burns, the kikes will burn with it and it will be hotter than the hottest oven they can imagine - and real unlike the Holocaust.
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>>135298793
not an argument
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>>135298131
Nobody will listen to you or read your post because in the US this case is being floated as an example of how "socialism kills babbies". They keep posting pictures of Charlie from when he was a few weeks old, all bright eyed and bushy tailed, not the latest ones where he was pallid, deaf, blind and his head was underdeveloped and shrunken from mitochondrial dysfunction.

Ameriburgers all genuinely believe that he was a healthy, functioning little boy with a minor genetic boo-boo for which a totally successful and trialled treatment existed, but that the British government said "NO >:(((" because "muh death panels muh death panels!!!".
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>>135298511
If he's a vegetable then it's not abuse for his parents to seek treatment. Check mate commie.
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>>135297556
>because what the parents were proposing was abuse
>experimental treatment in a last ditch attempt to save a life where even if it fails, it opens the door to saving others in the future
>somehow that's abuse

Fuck off Britcuck
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>>135298835
Absolutely nothing to do with socialised medicine you utter fucking retard
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>>135298186
No we have advertisements telling consumers to ask doctors about the drugs, you know so we (the consumer) can become more informed. That may be hard for a britbong to understand seeing how you guys kill infants instead of getting them the care they need, let muzzies in who end up raping your women, and bow down to the global elite by staying in the EU. You guys aren't even European anymore. You're useless.
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>>135298763
The difference is socialized healthcare in the US means keeping a bunch of non-white savages alive, where as you assholes still have a chance.

>>135298819
Not an argument you limey cuck, leave it to the britbong ninny to want white children dead.
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>>135298907
You didn't provide one either.
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>>135296373

The parents have private healthcare available if they want it. Just because we have a single payer system does not prevent those with wealth from accessing more specialised care.

Turns out they would rather just sponge on our taxpayers for free healthcare for their little angelic vegetable - the courts said no, to stop being delusional and let this dead-end die with dignity and with us a slightly heavier wallet.

As it happens, socialist systems do not always equate to free gibs or wasteful spending on behalf of sponging morons. You can't have "death panels" if your patient is a fucking corpse already.

What you amerilards don't seem to understand is you are already paying taxes to healthcare companies on top of your insurance penalties, and regardless of the system the richest don't suffer in any case so why should they care what system is?

What you amerilards also don't seem to understand is that the alternative to single payer is cutting out insurance companies completely and forcing the government to barter for affordable private healthcare on your behalf. Of course you're cucks for the rich who don't give a fuck about the endless work you do for them, so you'll go for the system that benefits you the least for the greatest expense and pretend it's "freedom."

Every other civilised country in the world has a duel public-private system and it turns out it's the best and benefits literally everyone. Go figure.
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>leftists don't understand logic!
>baby will die regardless
>WHY DIDN'T THEY TRY TO PROLONG THIS SWEEET BABIES' LIFE
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>>135298871
Waah muh state.

I'm going to dig up Charlie's corpse and piss in his face.
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yanks pretending to care about life is the funniest shit ever
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Hasn't that kid been braindead for a month already?
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>>135297568

You fucking twonk, they were trying to remove him from the public medical system and put him in private care, not even in the British system period.

If you think the doctors made this decision for medical reasons, and not legal precedent and trying to salvage image despite the rest of the world knowing the NHS is a fucking joke. Doctors fuck up all the time, medical and administratively. They were trying to block a second medical opinion on the poor boy, especially by a foreign practitioner.

>Doctors know best, muh medical professionals

They pay for accolades. Malpractice is the biggest civil suit pool.

If a child is terminal, the parent more than absolutely has the right to decide how to proceed.

Do us a favour and neck yourself you emotionless, never having a child fuckwad. If you were a parent and more than likely a large tax contributor you'd actually have a better opinion on this than "muh doctors know best."
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>Hi, I'm Dr Schlomo Goldenstein. If you pay me €2,000,000 I might be able to save your child's life

Truly a beautiful, non-corrupt system.
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>>135298990
Is that some sort of African ritual from your native lands?
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>>135298871

Except the part were there was no treatment, you simple man
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>>135298977
except i did, and then you retaliated with name calling

pretty hillaryish if you ask /pol
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>>135298411
American medical science is privately funded so a lot of innovations come out of our companies. There was some experimental treatment that the parents wanted to give him here. The NHS told them to fuck off.
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>>135298924
Treatment would just prolong his suffering and waste money you insufferable retard

see>>135296618
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>>135298718
we're not the same person dumbass
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>>135298924
The child was being treated, but all treatment was futile. Some yanks thought there was money to be made and offered their useless snake oil that would not have helped the child.
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>>135299068
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>>135296763
>the state should dictate who's child lives and dies
When your government starts passing laws enforcing mandatory abortions on white children in the name of diversity, I hope you remember this post.
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>>135298665
>offer nothing to the nation then yes

how about no, the american doctors saving the kid is a super longshot but their attempt at treating the kid could produce useful data on understanding his illness.

But no, let some un-elected commie bureaucrat rubber stamp this kids fate because its more cost effective that way.
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>>135298835
>let dr.shekelstein perform hip replacement surgery on your 98 year old mother with alzheimers so he can run up the bill a bit more before she checks out
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>>135299076
>Except the part were there was no treatment
maybe not in britbongistan you 3rd world faggot
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>>135298943
Coming from a "white majority" nation who supports muslim polygamy and 10+ child births with welfare i can see how you dont care about a white birth at all.
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>>135299073
He was not entitled to NHS coverage. He deserved to die
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>>135298943
Of course it does you cuck faggot mcnigger muslim
If he wasn't in your socialist faggot system and the socialist faggot EU didn't call the shots he could have come to the US for treatment
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>>135298411
Wow an American that actually considers logic and researches his facts. You're one in a million bud (and yes the kid was already good as dead. Deaf, blind, dumb, atrophied muscles. Keeping him alive on painful intubation was cruel. We don't force pets to live in those conditions).
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>>135299152
>the state should dictate who's child lives and dies

The child was already going to die though
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>>135299195
They tried taking him to the US. Is the US part of the NHS?
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>>135296167
The UK will pay for his death.
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>>135297568
>Because some random people who chose to shit out a baby have the right to spend my taxes

The parents raised the money for the treatment themselves, you weren't going to spend a dime on it, you fucking heathen.
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>>135299166
Again enjoy your balkenized fascism bound with civics. You will just crash the landscape this way you runt.
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>>135299088
No, saying he should die because muh appeal to authority isn't an argument. Try again.
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>>135298914
If he was going to die anyway why not let him get another chance somewhere else? Because he was suffering? So should we go around bashing people's heads in from birth to diagnosis the moment they are given terminal diagnoses? Some people who are told they have. Terminal illness decide they'd rather live the final moments of their lives as opposed to assisted suicide.
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>>135298817
THERE WAS NO TREATMENT
THERE
WAS
NO
TREATMENT

GET THIS THROUGH YOUR FAT FUCKING, CHOLESTEROL-CHOKED BRAIN
HE WAS DAMAGED ON A GENETIC LEVEL, AND THAT DYSFUNCTION WAS ONE THAT WAS BEING REPLICATED AD NAUSEUM EVERY TIME HIS CELLS UNDERWENT A DIVISION
IT COULD NOT BE REPAIRED

Whew lad, Americans I swear. Gets me all in a tizzy.
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>>135299166

Absolutely. Well worth the money to keep my mother alive another year or two.

If you know how to configure your finances correctly, there is no penalty to your parents running up hundreds of thousands of dollars of medical debt. My grandpa is probably 100k in debt but she keeps having procedures done and it's great. Virtually all of her assets were transferred several years ago and the life insurance policies are configured in a way to not go towards medical debt. So basically her "estate" will be bankrupt but there will be nothing to seize assets wise whenever she passes, hopefully not for another 10-20+ years. Learn how to play Jew games and you'll win Jew prizes.
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>It should be the parents' choice whether the child lives or dies, the government should not interfere.
>The government should make abortion illegal

Is America genuinely made up of 5% geniuses who make it the richest and most powerful country in the world and then 95% niggers?
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>>135297931
>why the hell were people making a big fuss about it in the first place?

Because the parents wanted to do everything they could to help their son live, but the government said "No. We know your child better than you even though we've never met him or seen him in person. We're going to let your son die, and we won't let you try and save him even if it's on your own dime."

In other words, this is a clear cut example of a marxist state deciding what is good for the child instead of the parents who actually love and care for him.

It's also a good argument against socialized healthcare.
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>>135299286
The experimental treatment wouldn't have done anything. Sorry that we're the rational ones and you're the emotional babies.
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>>135299209
It wasn't the NHS that stopped him from going to America, it was the law, that says the child's wellbeing is put before the whims of the parents.

The "treatment" being offered in the US was absolutely fucking worthless and would not have saved the child's life. It was an attempt to make some money off of a dying baby and his desperate parents.
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>>135296167
baka

RIP
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>>135299279
>The child was already going to die though
Unless the treatment he could have received in the US worked
either some bureaucrat should not be dictating the fate of the children of your fellow citizens, children do not belong to the state
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Poor kid has been dead for months yet his parents wanted to prolong his suffering

F
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>>135299496
No one cares. The parents should be able to decide what to do with their child and their money.
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>>135299427

>implying we don't support discrete nigger genocide
>>
Americans are THIS delusional

Kek. Let's use the rest of the rest to laugh at how retarded the shart-in-marts are. I'll start.

>ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaha
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>>135299064
>You fucking twonk, they were trying to remove him from the public medical system and put him in private care, not even in the British system period.

This is patently not a realistic assumption.

These people were going to come back with a begging bowl at every opportunity, they were already well into the system and only had to sob a bit to get some press and courts on their side.

Let's say Little Charlie gets some "life-saving operation" except it just keeps him off death's door for a few more years - that still requires medical upkeep and guess who's shelling out for that? Not them, they already know what.

Why would they even fucking bother if they didn't simply assume the taxpayer was footing the cost. The magical american cure was just a little detour on Charlie's Bizarre Adventure: Comatose Crusaders
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>this thread
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>>135299417
HENCE THE TERM EXPERIMENTAL YOU FAGGOT SOCIALIST BABY KILLING SNAGGLE TOOTH LIBERAL FAGGOT KEK

I am glad Islam and socialism is destroying Europe
There is a reason all the smart people left for the States
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It amazes me that you people actually think your healthcare is superior. If I want to see a specialist all I have to do is call one and make an appointment. I don't even need a referral.
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just wondering how old is the mother? It looks like a "have just one kid right before hitting 40" kind of deal.
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>>135299152
Lol Exactly.
>Eh your baby was probably going to die at some point could be Tom tomorrow could be 80+ years so we just went ahead and euthanized him for you. No need to thank us I'm sure you're glad we saved you money because who wants to invest all that money in a kid when they could possibly die?
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>>135299586
How about high IQ people who aren't retards like Americans who fall for snake oil salesman?

Tfw higher IQ than every Ameriturd on pol
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>>135299497

>It was an attempt to make some money off of a dying baby and his desperate parents.
>implying there is anything wrong with that
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>>135299643
>strawman
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>all these retards who think the treatment was going to be used to save the baby
>in actuality the treatment was going to be used to study and see the effects on a rare genetic condition
>research that could possibly save another child
Wow you faggots think you're taking a step forward when in reality you're taking two steps back and let this child die in vain. Born in this world and not even given the chance to leave some kind of positive impact before his end.
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>>135299681
>medical research companies are snake oil salesman
i dont expect britbong medical treatments to ever improve lel
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>>135299462

Aha what, if anything the only person who had no idea what was going on, it was the US doctor offering his services.

>GOSH considers nucleotide therapy in December, judges no improvement would be gained from it, puts out a global call for assistance
>Dr Hirano answers in January, invited to UK
>finally arrives in July, admits he hasn't actually read up on the case despite promises in the media
>says there's no chance

More worried about your doctors than ours
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>>135299068
>muh freedum (to get jewed)
>muh market forces guaranteeing 'efficiency'
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>>135299050
Not yet but he was getting there. He was already blind, deaf and couldn't breathe/swallow on his own.
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>>135297233
no retard, the kid would have died anyway, the government said no to science experiments being performed on him,
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>>135299546
>Unless the treatment he could have received in the US worked
>US Doctor says the treatment would have never worked on Charlie.
Great job Yankstain
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>>135299497
How hard is it for communists to realize that a law might be wrong? Parents should have the right to try to save their childs life. But no, criticize the great and powerful British government and suddenly Bongs come out of the woodwork to suck the queens cock.
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>>135299546
>children do not belong to the state

This coming from the country where school children have to pledge allegiance to the government every fucking day like robots, like something from 1984
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>>135299681
Muh high IQ isn't an argument. The state shouldn't dictate what healthcare you recieve if you pay for it. If they banned the kid from NHS services and let him go, that would have been fair. But they wanted to demonstrate that they are allmighty and that you shouldn't dare to oppose them.
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>>135299417
There was no treatment for plenty of diseases once upon a time. You know how humans discovered treatments? experimental treatments.
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>>135299644
what's the point of experimenting on the baby if you know it doesn't work?
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>>135299497
Are you a NHS employee or just an actual brainwashed socialist cuck?

Either way you deserve the Islamification of your country
Your filthy Godless Island deserves everything bad that happens to it
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>>135299546
>Unless the treatment he could have received in the US worked

But it wouldn't have worked. It was a completely unproved treatment and would not have saved the child's life. Genetic illnesses CANNOT be cured, we're not in the X-Men
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>>135299586
>Implying your opinion would be the same that parents should have the final say if they were Schizophrenic
>>
>britbongs murder a baby and make excuses
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>>135299784

Sorry, but I can't take A hospital seriously that calls itself 'GOSH'

>Gosh darn Mr. Gard, we're so gosh darned sorry we killed your boy here as GOSH, God Save Allah the Merciful
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>>135296167
Fuck off with this. The kid was shindeiru. Not your army Christcucks.
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>>135299707
It wasn't in the well-being of the child to let some amerikike use him as a guinea pig
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>the national healthcare system won't pay to keep your child alive
>ok, I'll just take him out of the national one and put him into a private one in a different country
>NO!
Wew lads
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>>135298829
This

Also the American Dr did a u-turn before the court ruling and said "lol nah hes fucked m8s"
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>>135299707
>all these britbongs defensive because muh nhs and national pride
If this had happened in the US we would be equally disgusted, good job defending your autocracies claim on the ownership of your offspring

>>135299861
nice source-less claim you've got there
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>>135296167
Who fucking cares about some 5 months old dying just make another baby.
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>>135299922
Why are you moving the goalposts? Shitzos have legal guardians who make the decisions.
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>>135299902
Because it's an experiment, you see what it does, that's how new treatments are made commercially available. You take patients that have no other recourse, inject them with the experimental treatment and note the outcome.
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>>135299943

Fuck me mate didn't they teach you what an acronym or initialism was at school?

Great Ormond Street Hospital
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>>135299902
Are you a fucking retard?
You experiment to SEE IF IT WOULD WORK
God your filthy little Island can not burn soon enough
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>>135299900
>Americucks calling Britbongs cruel babby murderers
>wants to subject an infant to painful and prolonged experimentation

You can't cure a genetic dysfunction bud. The only treatment is to ensure that the dysfunction never occurs in the first place. You would know this if you actually paid attention in Human Phys. you know.
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>>135299918

>Genetic illnesses CANNOT be cured, we're not in the X-Men

That's why you do experimental treatments until they can be cured.

Nobody had any real data on hypothermia until the Germans researched it extensively in the 1940's using criminal volunteers as subjects.
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>>135299496
>Woah woah woah woah! Is that an EXPERIMENTAL treatment? Stop this barbarism right this instant.
>You.
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>>135300064
Literally only Americans because they're fat whiny pussies
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>>135299870
>This coming from the country where school children have to pledge allegiance to the government every fucking day like robots,
>have to
wrong

>waaa nationalism is bad
No wonder your fucking empire fell flat on its face
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>>135299651

Probably because i'm safe knowing I don't have to declare bankruptcy in the scenario somebody calls an Ambulance for me whilst i'm unconscious,

Cos I don't have to give money to the jews in insurance companies.

And if I was wealthy enough I can just use private healthcare directly anyway- then enjoy them stringing me along with meaningless treatments I don't need but are conveniently still expensive.

Private healthcare is a joke and fundamentally incompatible with a modern civilisation, it's not a fucking product at Walmart - it's basic shit you need to keep your workers (your wealth creators and potential soldiers who you might need to defend your country) going.
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>>135299862
I never argued the law was right, just that it was the reason the kid couldn't go to America

But what makes you think it's wrong? Should parents from Africa be able to mutilate their daughter's vagina because it might save her soul?
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>>135299496
>The experimental treatment wouldn't have done anything.
source?
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>>135299784
>More worried about your doctors than ours

Why would you be? Our doctors will administer any treatment I want/need

Your doctors will outright refuse certain treatments because it "might complicate things or cause suffering"
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It's not like the average Brit had any role to play in it. Are you accountable for Obongo's actions?
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>>135299870
They can choose not to. It's their 1st amendment right.
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>>135299870
>saying some words is the same as having the government dictate where you can die.
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>>135299496

>but cutting off a man's pecker because he thinks he's a woman is perfectly a-okay.
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>>135300140
This isn't about the baby, it's about the fact that the people in charge refused to discharge the baby and wanted it dead in the UK not letting the parents attempt anything else outside the country.
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>>135299145
But the parents raised the money to seek treatment in the US. However, it would have further strained the socialist health care system in the UK, so the government axed it.

I wonder if muslim children will get a higher priority in the health care system someday?
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>>135299918
if everyone had your mindset polio would still be common
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>>135300134
>I have the right to use British citizens as guinea pigs in my money making schemes disguised as "experimental" research
There are a few dimensions to this.
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>>135296236
If the parents got the funds, who are we to tell them how to spend (or waste) that money? This wasn't even about a tax dollars spending issue.
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>>135298983

Glad to see good goys are still cucking for the NHS. Enjoy your wait lists, Amir.
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>>135300223
>Should parents from Africa be able to mutilate their daughter's vagina because it might save her soul?
its incredible how retarded this argument is

mutilating her vagina could save her from vaginal cancer you fucking retard.
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>>135300284
Sorry, add pussy Canadians to the list
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>>135296167
>Britbongs let kid to rest in peace instead of selling him to (((burger doctors)))
Ranks B for Based
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ITT: Brittards don't understand that the baby is meaningless, it's the legal precedent of the hospital taking you hostage and not let you decide your medical treatment
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>>135299870
Public Schooling is optional. Homeschooling is a thing dude.
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>>135300223
>But what makes you think it's wrong? Should parents from Africa be able to mutilate their daughter's vagina because it might save her soul?

One is a superstition dreamt up by a bunch of sandniggers, the other is a admittedly experimental treatment which even if unsuccessful could result in more effective treatments for future patients.
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>>135300315

You bet your ass if Charlie Gard was Muhammad Abdul and Saudi Arabia and the UAE were offering to pay for experimental procedures, little Muhammad would have been on the first gold jet to Dubai.
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>>135297556
haha look at this denial/rationalization

kill yourself

enjoy your shit healthcare peasant, how is dr muhammad from the middle east?

hows the nurse/doctor shortage/strike?

hows the waitlist?

i cant hear you

(message sent from the most advanced healthcare system in the world with the best physicians and surgeons aka the USA)

and my doctor is a white man. not some shitskin third worlder
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>>135300098
>Are you a fucking retard?
Nope.
>You experiment to SEE IF IT WOULD WORK
Mate, his entire DNA is broken to the point where his cells can't produce enough energy. We don't have the tools to fix this.
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>>135296414
Yup even though he was a cabbage
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>>135300152
Nationalism has literally nothing to do with the Empire you spastic. Get some basic historical knowledge please.
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>GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE IN CHARGE OF HEALTH CARE YOU GUYS WAY BETTER THAN A FREE-MARKET SYSTEM
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>>135299902
>So I guess we should stop doing all research into diseases plaguing humanity Because I mean what's the point? They might even work.
>You
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Isn't it kind if weird that all the people living within the UK, who were subject to the news and facts on a near-daily basis and understand the system of the NHS all agree that the right decision was made, whereas all the Americans who live outside of the country, who were only fed filtered, highly bias news specifically selected to further feed a political agenda, and whom don't understand how the NHS works, are all arguing how "NHS = MURDERERS" and "IT SHOULD BE THE PARENT'S DECISION WHETHER THE KID LIVES OR DIES" whilst simultaneously opposing abortion...

Really makes you think.
Hmmm.
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>>135300432
You don't understand, most Britbongs worship the NHS like a god, criticism of it is NOT allowed.
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>>135300432
That's not the precedent because you don't understand the case you dumb republican vermin
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>>135300015
This baby was going to be another infant mortality regardless of any unfounded meme treatments you whatabouters can think of. Whenever there's a chance to attack another country, a single death becomes a tragedy but funnily enough when a perfectly healthy kid in America is shot at school or in a cinema it's radio silence from you fags
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>>135296167
>there's no such thing as death panels, goy!
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>>135297743
This is why you need to nuke us America.
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>>135300223
You can mutilate boys' penises, so I'm ok with mutilating vaginas being legal. Equality bitch.
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>>135296167
>Retarded brain dead baby
>-3% chance of survival

Who fucking cares? We have so many other things to care about.
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>>135296618
>britcuck in massive denial defends his countrys shitty healthcare under the argument of letting a baby die

wtf i love free healthcare now
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Nothing to do with money

It was judged to be unethical to prolong his vegetable life
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>>135300509
Meanwhile in America, Fraudulent advertisements about phoney cancer treatments are everywhere on TV.
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>>135300388
ad hominem
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>>135300624
>It was judged to be unethical to prolong his vegetable life
its unethical to NOT use the baby for medical science
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>>135300551
I'd suggest changing your flag, Britbongs are now Turk tier as far as I'm concerned.
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>>135296167
Muslim child would've had all the help and care needed to survive. Bongs know this to be true.
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>>135300478
>reddit spacing
>lies
>poor grammar and spelling
Judging by both your post quality and the demographics of the US as they lie currently, you must either be a nigger - 13% of your population, so more than one in ten Americans, or a spic - over one in four Americans.
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>>135298442
You're one to talk about treatment of children if you're so quick to give up their lives. You're a fucking disgrace of a country.
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>>135297237
i was wondering, could you space your post out a little bit more you fucking faggot nigger kike? it helps me read when each sentence has its own paragraph break
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>>135300663
It's your responsibility not to be a retard. But britbongs need their nanny state to make decisions for them.
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>can I have my baby back
>NO! Also we're going to let him die
Wew lads
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Lads, you must remember that Yank fathers' literally look at their newborn baby before instructing the doctor to cut off part of his knob, for $299.99 (+ 10% gratuity and tip)

Mad
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Pic related absolutely and unequivocally BTFOs every ameriposter in this thread
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>>135300705
It's not ethical to use babies as guinea pigs you fucking mong
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>ITT; a bunch of British faggot advocate for the right of the state to impose its will on the life of your child

B I N I T
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>stops baby from becoming guinea pig for experimental drug which will not cure him and allows him to die with (more) dignity
wtf I hate NHS now.
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>>135300229
St Ormonds street I.e. the best paediatric hospital there is dipshit
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>itt amerisharts use a little dead boy as martyr for their absurd belief in muh free market

You guys are worse than muslims
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>>135300535
>During the accident, Ouchi was exposed to 17 sieverts of radiation with 8 sieverts being normally considered fatal and 50 milli sieverts being the maximum limit of annual dose allowed for Japanese nuclear workers.

>Ouchi’s exposure to the radiation was so severe that his chromosomes were destroyed and his white blood cell count plummeted to near-zero. Most of his body had severe burns and his internal organs received severe damage.

>Ouchi is considered the first fatality of his kind in Japan, perhaps the only person to ever receive such a huge amount of radiation in such a short amount of time. The amount of radioactive energy that he was exposed to is thought to be equivalent to that at the hypocenter of Hiroshima atomic bombing. The immensity of radiation completely destroyed his body, including his DNA and immune system. According to the book A Slow Death: 83 Days of Radiation Sickness, “[N]one of Ouchi’s chromosomes could be identified or arranged in order.”

>What was cruel was that, he was resuscitated on the 59th day when his heart stopped three times within a period of 49 minutes, despite wishing not to be let to suffer.

>As his condition worsened, he was transferred to University of Tokyo Hospital and, reportedly, underwent the world’s first transfusion of peripheral stem cells. He was also given many blood transfusions, fluids, and medicine that wasn’t even available in Japan yet. He also had to undergo several skin transplants which couldn’t help the loss of fluids through pores. After being treated for a week, Ouchi managed to say, “I can’t take it any more… I am not a guinea pig”. However, the doctors kept treating him and taking measures to keep him alive, which only ensured a very slow and very painful death.

>After 83 days of struggle, Ouchi died of multiple organ failure on December 21, 1999.

>let's try to keep someone alive at all costs, fuck ethics
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>>135300122
It's incurable Because medicine doesn't know all it can about it. So the British idea is
>"Lets just let the kid die. Hopefully no other babies get this kids illness later on because what are the chances amirite?"
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>British people flock to /pol/ to justify their baby murdering, white hating, big brother state
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Sorry libertarian, this is a national socialist board.
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>>135300663

>UK literally lets a baby die instead of letting it get treatment
>BUT IN AMERICA THEY SOMETIMES HAVE MISLEADING TV COMMERCIALS

Wow those things are totally equivalent.
Stupid brit.
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>nhs sells the baby to (((american doctors)))
>they circumcise him and sell his foreskin to jewish pharma for a big profit
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The American media is absolute cancer. no doubt some faggot on Fox news is bitching about muh death panels and calling for the privatisation of the British health care system so we can all get fucked by kike pharma just like you. Fuck you
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>>135300804
it's because we abort so many niggers. we bred em like cattle for 200 years, now that our soft eugenics program is kicking in the stats are skewed. nice try though your FAS faced snaggle toothed faggot
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>>135300822
Is it a baby or a vegetable, make up your fucking mind. If it's a vegetable then it shouldn't matter, if it's a baby then prolonging life is better than death.
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Why do Americans seem more butthurt than Brits about this?
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>>135300388
>If you question big brother you're a pussy
cuck

>>135300488
thats right bong just remember the tenets
>The government is never wrong
>diversity is our strength
>Britain has no culture we must import the third world
>be ashamed of you race
>freedom is slavery

Can't wait to see all the Bongs defend the NHS when they day comes that the government forces microchips into your bodies
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>>135300886
Here's the key part: wishing not to die. An adult decides for himself. Parents decide for their children. It's not rocket science.
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>>135300123
You can't fucking cure a genetic dysfunction would it would require alteration of every single nucleotide within the body, and it's pretty fucking hard considering every single cell within the body is replicating the dysfunction every at over a thouand times per second.

Hypothermia isn't a genetic illness you buffoon.
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>>135300838

They could have used private healthcare but they didn't.

They wanted the NHS to keep their vegetable alive and it said "stop wasting public money" instead.

In the US they would do it, and raise your insurance premiums instead.

You can't "impose will on the life of a child" when your child is a warm corpse.
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>>135300953
i kekkled
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>>135301033
Surprisingly enough its legal status was "baby" and not "vegetable retard". Who would've guessed?
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Oh wow it's another
>Americans try to have an opinion on a subject they do not understand nor have the correct facts for
thread
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>>135301014
>it's because we abort so many niggers

Abortions don't count towards infant mortality statistics

Nice try but you'll have to keep the train of American cognitive dissonance steaming to get yourself out of this one.
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>>135300343
It's an ethical issue. I work in a hospital and cases like these happen all the time. There are worse fates than death and we have to take cases to courts to force the issue since the family can't "pull the plug"
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>>135298829
>Welp, babies dead nbd hunny

>Not wanting to persevere theblife of your fucking son.
Get necked nigger
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>letting them take a child to trumps america
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>>135301056
>Parents decide for their children.

so you're advocating for a baby to suffer a slow and agonising death because his parents were too retarded to accept their poor kid is totally uncurable?
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>>135300343
The parents DID have the funds. They're officially millionaires now.
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So you're telling me that in the USA, you can pay to have a braindead baby on a ventilator forever and the state won't intervene despite how fucked up that is ?
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>>135297006
>gubment cant afford the electricity to keep a baby on life support

This is basically what it boils down to in terms of cost. Dont fucking start with muh nurses and doctors are costly. Bullshit theyre already there to do a job. Fucking disgusting
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>>135300942
Your healthcare is an example of how not to do it retard
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>>135301050
I was just literally telling you to learn about the fall of the BE and why nationalism (as good as it is) had no part in it, and you give me a cringy rant about what you think my country stands for. Jesus fucking christ why are all Americans so fucking dumb.
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>>135301180
Wasn't he a vegetable? Veggies don't feel pain :^)
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>>135296167

>duh ebil nhs not letting jewish doctors in america extort money off desperate parents and experiment on a braindead baby

My only issue is that they did not respect the parents wishes of letting the kid die with his family at home.
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This is why we fought a war to break away from you faggots.
Brexit 1776
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>>135301180
Oh I thought the child was brain dead, that's the justification all the other bongs in this thread are using to justify your government murdering a baby.
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>>135300337
Of course some one would want to profit shekels off this. That's why healthcare in the us is so expensive. our Politicians left and right are bought by big pharma. My point is put yourself in place of that kid. Say you we're diagnosed and that kid "Charlie Gard" had been Allowed to be researched in attempt to save his life but ultimately failed. Fast forward a short time in the future. A cure/treatment was discovered. You were one of the people opposed to "Vegetable Charlie" carrying on. Do you take the cure his death provided? Yes or no?.
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>>135301197
>you can pay to have a braindead baby on a ventilator forever
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Retarded Americans were scammed into making millionaires of the family who were milking their son's condition and are now calling for the abolition of the NHS so we'll be forced to get raped by privatised price gougers.

Why are Americans addicted to being dominated financially?
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>>135300942
Attacking a point I did not make. Great job Yankstain
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>>135300758
>so quick to give up their lives
We spent near to a million GBP keeping a blind, deaf, dumb, atrophied vegetable alive for over 6 months. In the US his kike insurance wouldn't have been enough to keep him alive for even one week kek
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>>135301280
Yes they do, patients in vegetative states still exhibit general pain responses
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>>135301409
That's not how the law works. It was not in the interests of the child's safety to let him be experimented on by kike pharma in the US.
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>>135301444
Why are Brits so addicted to government cock that they'll defend the murder of a baby?
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>>135301288

The kid simply wouldn't have made it home, sadly. I think public opinion has been swinging around on the parents, they shouldn't have spent his last weeks fighting and shooting barbs at GOSH who did so much for him.
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>>135296961
Jesus Christ, the baby would get help from her parents insurance, it's not auto insurance. Many of our states also have added coverage for children "free" and we have elderly coverage that's "free". The only folks getting fucked are lazy working age faggots who aren't employed and should die in a gutter.
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>>135300479
But studying it could lead to ways to prevent such genetic mutation in the future. Gene therapy is a thing for a reason.
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>>135301542
>it's in the child's interests to fucking die
Wew lad
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>>135300573
>This baby was going to be another infant mortality regardless of any unfounded meme treatments you whatabouters can think of
The probability of death is irrelevant, its the precedent that your government prevented the parents form being able to seek other treatments. You're government unanimously decided to condemn the child to not receive treat (whether it worked or not) for not perceptible reason other than to defend the NHS.
>Whenever there's a chance to attack another country, a single death becomes a tragedy but funnily enough when a perfectly healthy kid in America is shot at school or in a cinema it's radio silence from you fags
Firstly you fags mock is for this all the time
Secondly this is a false equivalence because the government does not send a sanctioned shooter to open fire at kids in schools. This is an argument of government control of the lives of the citizenry, not one child deaths.
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>>135300457
>which even if unsuccessful could result in more effective treatments for future patients
It would be unsuccessful, you cannot cure genetic illnesses. And use guinea pigs or lab rats, not human fucking beings.
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>>135301592
Why are Americans so addicted to Jewish Pharma cock that they'll defend false cancer treatments costing millions?
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>>135301197
The baby wasn't braindead when the hospital took him hostage. Being terminal doesn't mean you have to give up fighting for your life. Terminal patients get treated.
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>>135301592
>murder
Holy fuck you're dumb. There was no murder. The boy died from his genetic aliment
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>>135300822

The only way you're ever going to develop a treatment for this is to, at some point, use babies as guinea pigs because you don't typically live long enough to reach the age where you can give consent yourself.

We can model the disease and possible treatments in animal models for decades, but there have been literally hundreds and hundreds of drugs and treatments that excel in animal models and then fall flat on their face when they come to human trials. Eventually you need to test it in humans or else all you have is a whole lot of nothing useful. And it's not as if the parents were asking to take the child to go see a witch doctor, there are possible treatments. For example "stem cell transplantation in MNGIE disease shows promising results." (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3625391/)
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>>135299497
>NHS values child's well being over parents whims
>literally only let child die

"Look, I'm helping!"
RIP TEA-NIGGER
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>>135300899
Explain to me then how a treatment that could somehow target every nucleotide within the body and alter its mitochondria simultaneously when the cells is replicating at over a thousand times per second?

The only treatment here IS to try and prevent it from occurring again, because it CANNOT be cured. What is it with American's not understand genetics on a fundamental level, fucking hell.
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>>135301592
It ain't a murder. It's letting a person die quicker to end their misery; do you value the knowledge gained by experimentation more or a more dignified end to a life?
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>>135301520
Being a veggie implies brain death, brain death is the medical definition of death. If someone isn't braindead, he's alive. If he's alive, he has a right to be treated. This was euthanasia without the patient's consent.
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>>135301662
Yeah and that's why you're cystic fibrosis patients die right after they leave their parents insurance, their life expectancy is 22 dipshit
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QUICK REMINDER that infant mortality rates are 50% higher in the USA than the UK, yet Amerilards have the nerve to feign distress over us pulling the plug on a dead baby
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>>135300544
>>135301057
>>135301508

why are you so fucking butthurt bong, is it because you know that parents should decide how to care of their child?
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>>135298990
>I'm going to dig up Charlie's corpse and piss in his face.

>>135299961
>How dare you use the kid to study a genetic condition. who cares if it could save other children in the future, it's going to be painful and degrading to use him as some sort of guinea pig.
you're trying to say you're making a rational decision. the parents want to let their child be used to save other kids. the kid is going to die anyway so his death may as well serve some sort of purpose.

>>135298819
>You're the one crying over a vegetable boy you Canadian poofer
but you still care about what happens with the kid?

>>135297724
>He was a waste of money and time. Any rational person would just kill it and have another kid
as opposed to using the kid to learn more about the condition.

>>135297231
>The kid was brain-dead. He was irreparably fucked. It was for the best
so because the kid is brain dead you don't care if it dies. but you also think that we shouldn't use a vegetable to better our understanding of a rare condition?
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>>135301690
Yeah, let him die in a sterilized, public, sand-nigger crowded hospital you heathens!
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>They're officially millionaires now.
>millions were given them to save the baby
>but baby dies, because the court already decided so
>they should've known it will turn like that beforehand
>...
>so the same court throws them in prison for a charity fraud
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According to britbongs: if you're terminal you should be euthanized. No point in fighting for your life because the doctor said so.
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>>135301678
Yes because there was no hope. Curing this is just as likely as curing downs syndrome
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>>135301676
Gene therapy would work if you caught the disease at zygote stage, when there's like 16 cells to work with

Doing gene therapy on a developed and birthed person is pretty much impossible. Not to mention trying to cure brain damage.

Maybe in a century or two, but it's pretty much science fiction.
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>>135300886
Ones a baby. The other is not.
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>>135301858
>>135301718
It comes as a surprise to you that Yankstains are dumb? Anyone who claims that murder is anything other than it's definition (The unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another.) to further their goals by using shocking words is a retard.
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>>135301718
>>135301691
>>135301858

Apparently I've hit a nerve, face the fucking facts, your government is complicit in this babies death and you're sucking their cock for it. Your government is trash. This is not something that should ever be decided by the government. You have a government of child murderers plain and simple.
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>>135301255
we all know why you fell
>once the most powerful and influential force on earth
>now a state island being colonized by shitskin ethnicity from nations that once adhered to command of the union jack.
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>>135301845

>Expecting an American to have any kind of education level like that

There is a reason they rely on immigrants to do all the scientific work for them.
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>>135301860
Please learn what Euthanasia is. The kid was put in a hospice and he then died as a result of his disease. Euthanasia is if they OD the patient on painkillers or something along those lines.
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>>135301960
He was in the single best paediatric hospital in the world, and they were going to move him to a hospice so he could die comfortably.

But the parents left their child alone in the hospital and started demanding the hospital move all the medical equipment to their house, along with the appropriate medical staff.
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>>135302127
It was not murdered. Stop being a melodramatic baby
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>>135302127
>Not knowing the definition of murder
How can yanks be this thick?
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>>135301237

>babykiller brit saying how not to do healthcare

kek

>>135301492

Then what the fuck was your point, Ahmed? I actually live in a free country, so the horseshit spewed out by a socialism-dominated, mostly Islamic shithole is often too retarded for me to decipher.
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>>135302142
That pictures too sunny to be from the uk
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>>135301845
To give an analogy: a cure for Charlie's defect would be the equivalent of giving a down syndrome person a pill and curing them
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>>135302000
Do you know the definition of terminal?

>terminal
>fight for your life

Pick one you tard
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>>135302127
The Government had fuck all to do with the child's death. He was on the verge of death anyway, and it was the law that stopped the child from being moved.
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>>135302211
Discontinuing treatment to a terminal patient against his will is euthanasia. Fuck off.
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>>135300986
Instead your daughters are getting free contraception to go around acting like drunken whores and youre not even allowed to know about her 4 abortions
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>>135302243
It was murder. If I stop an ambulance from reaching the scene of an accident am I not culpable for any and all deaths that occur?
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>>135302292
I feel sorry that you're country has failed you this badly
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>>135302292
>babykiller brit
>Americans still ignoring the fact that their infant mortality rate is 50% higher to protect their cognitive dissonance

How can one country have such a lack of self-awareness?
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>>135301508
Shows what you know, Nigel. No child is turned away in this country. They're given Medicaid. Your disgusting ego killed a child. Keeping him from seeing better qualified doctors just because you don't want to reveal how bad your health care is. Why don't you go to your doctor right now for a check up so you can fucking kill yourself?
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>>135302350
Terminal patients are deemed dead men walking by doctors. There are many reocrded cases of terminal patients surviving or prolonging their lives. Even if the fight is pointless, you still have the right to be treated.
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>>135302393
>against his will
He was a baby and practically brain dead, they could hardly get him to sign a legal contract you moron
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>>135302353
>The Government had fuck all to do with the child's death

>and it was the law that stopped the child from being moved.

And the gold for mental gymnastics goes to.... BRITAIN!!!!
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>be americuck

>be 60% white

ABSOLUTELY KEKED
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>>135302428
Why because you want to be certain it's only daddy's dick she gets?
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When can we expect a statue of Charlie Gard in the White House then?
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>>135302434
He was already in the ambulance dumbo. He was receiving care and they determined that he couldn't be helped.

If I find an unconscious person and I perform CPR for 10 minutes, give mouth to mouth and they end up dead am i culpable in their death for not doing more
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>>135301197
At some point the parents would make the right decision (to let the baby pass away) the issue in this case is the government had total authority. "Fuck the parent's opinion. This is our vegetable now"
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>>135302600
>be britcuck
>die one year old in the hospital
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>>135302577
He wasn't brain dead when the hospital took him hostage you subhuman paki.
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>>135302454
>you're country

Yeah you seem like you have great education over there crooked-tooth land.
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>>135298168
Fuuuuuck I despair for pol. You retards literally talk about shit you don't know anything about.

It was not about the money! It was about making an infant suffer needlessly because of his parents delusions. It's like if you stopped some parents mutilating the genitals of their child then torturing him to death because they hoped it would get him into heaven. Same applies here, the doctors ruled that the parents couldn't help the child, anything ither than dying at GOSH would have been very cruel
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>>135302581
>the government
>the law

yes, yank

two different things.
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#vegetablelivesmatter
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>>135302600
This is the last resort for Europeans who can't finish a debate. It's like calling all Romanies Gypsies.
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>>135302454
Learn how to speak your own fucking language.
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>>135302393
>Implying a deaf-blind 1 year old can even express his will
Oh and go look up the definition of Euthanasia, I've attached it because we all know that you lot don't want to waste calories opening a new google tab.
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>>135302600
>be britckuck
>your national food is a poo in loo food
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>>135302314
my mistake
here you go lad
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>>135302558
>They're given Medicaid

SOCIALISM
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>>135302717
kek

yet looking at literally every yank post ITT there are zero arguments and only name calling
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>>135302581
This is law that's been in place for decades and had fuck all to do with the current elected officials
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>>135302694
Grammar the last resort of a desperate man
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>>135302760
Hey retard, babies have no will. Their parents are considered the baby's will.
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>>135302631
It's more like doing CPR and then stopping the ambulance because "he's clearly not going to make it don't question the government fucking peon"
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>>135302785
No, check out my brilliant analysis here: >>135300315
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>>135301542
While I don't disagree with you that big pharma in the us is a racket I still think the parents should at least feel like they have some control in a situation where it was evident they had no control.
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>>135302843
>we should people do whatever they like to kids lmao
"No"
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>>135302843
Don't kid me now when I ask this, Would you be defending the parent's will if they had some kind of mental illness themselves? Do you think they were in the right frame of mind for making such a decision?
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>>135302909
No retard it's like refusing to perform a special move on him that may or may not have prolonged his life. It's like performing mouth to mouth on a decapitated person and expecting them to walk free
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>>135302843
And this whole debacle is caused by the fact that the medical professionals are responsible for expressing the child's will when it pertains to medical matters in order to stop parents neglecting their child.
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>>135302675
You're more likely to die aged 1 if you're born in America compared to the UK
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>>135302989
>we should have the state do whatever they want to kids lmao
I can do it too you retard.
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When people say that Charlie was "suffering," what exactly do you mean by this? Do you think he wasn't on pain medication? Because pain medication pretty much eliminates suffering in a terminal patient, especially one who doesn't even comprehend their mortality to begin with. The "suffering" argument is bullshit if he really was in a vegetative state.
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>>135302934
>I still think the parents should at least feel like they have some control in a situation where it was evident they had no control

so literally muh feels then
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>In the name of socialism
http://www.gosh.nhs.uk/file/23731/download?token=TWJkSxZu
>the hospital listened to the professor's fresh evidence to te Court.
>On 13 July he stated that not only had he not visited the hospital to examine Charlie but in addition, he had not read Charlie's contemporaneous medical records or viewed Charlie's brain imaging or read all of the second opinions about Charlie's condition (obtained from experts all of whom had taken the opportunity to examine him and consider his records) or even read the judge's decision made on 11 April.
Literally making shit up to try out his new treatment in the hopes of making a name for himself/profiting off of the patent.
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>>135303043
This is because of minorities in ghettos who literally don't understand how to properly feed or care for a baby, not because of our healthcare.
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>>135301691
Chemo is known to actually make things worse it's just a matter of time before the information becomes common knowledge there is actually a patent for cannabis oil or something similar that is an effective treatment to cancer cells
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>>135297006
>parents try to get baby put in hospice at home
Idk how its done in bongland, but in the states at least hospice tends to just be something they do to try to make people that are going to die comfortable and able to spend time with their loved ones, my father went through it before he died of cancer
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>>135303032
THE PARENTS HAD NO MENTAL ILLNESS. IF THEY DID, THEIR LEGAL GIARDIAN WOULD MAKE THE DECISION
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>>135302909
What is the CPR for charlie gard in your shit analogy? He couldnt be saved
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