Choose your class

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>>135285364
>fascism

paladin

>>135285633

thic

>>135285633
Meh, goring had a war inury that kept him on painkillers and from exercising.

>>135285633
THICC

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Capitalism

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extremely misleading and slightly homosexual propaganda, as expected of far-right propaganda..

Now this is far more accurate

>>135287539
the one in the middle and the one to the right are white guys

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>>135285364
rollin thief

>>135285633
T H I C <3

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bergjude

>>135285633

Old war vet. Also he likes the boys. or so the jew tells me.

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>>135287762
>socialism
>people own guns
Your an oxymoron aren't you?

>>135288819
Marx himself said the population should be armed.
It's just that every socialist afterwards said "lol no".

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>>135285364

>DUDE FASCISM IS STRONG!

>failed completely and only societal rejects and weakling losers LARP as it since its a completely irrelevant and dead ideology

>>135289626
Because every socialist afterward was a dictator, and they always will be because people who live under socialism willingly are cucks.

>>135287762
The bottom one is the capitalism as well. Workers in capitalism can go strike. Free market fixes all, but relies on the people to do so. It gives the freedom to fix things.

Fascism is the objective answer.

>>135285364
So libertarianism is just a fatass with a nu-male beard? Pretty accurate desu

>>135285633
Based Pole, fpbp

Is this Fuck, Marry, Kill, Eat?
I love this game.

>>135287762
>No money bags in Socialism

Good one.

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>>135285364
I've accepted my position as a meme long ago. you can't hurt me anymore.

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>>135285364
Darwinism

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>>135285364
>teleports behind you and pays off your men to have you assassinated by your personal PMC
Nothing personnel, kid.

>>135289997
How is socialism more cucked than capitalism?

Wageslavery is cucked af

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>>135290939

>>135287935
Phil Heath (the one in the middle) is not white

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>>135285364

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>>135290535

>>135291394
Based Robot

>>135285633
>poleshit

>>135287539
>niggers

>>135287762
>Now this is far more accurate
Socialism doesn't work like that in real life, you fucking kike.

>>135291162
Wageslavery is for the unambitious

If you live in a capitalist society you should be using that as an opportunity to establish a means of fulfilling self employment. If you wageslave your entire life you're a cuck. Don't like your boss telling you what to do? Start your own business pussydick.

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>>135291162
>Wageslavery is cucked
Yeah, if you're the wageslave

>>135285633
fpbp

>>135285364
I'm physically communist but spiritually fascist.

>>135289940
>Took the combined military forces of over half the planet's first-world nations to defeat one small angry white country that worked as a nationwide community.
>Failed completely
K.

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Communism baby

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>>135287762

>>135285364
Libertatianism dude looks like he making most of the fun. i choose him.

>>135285364

>Be me
>fat fuck
>Get job
>be facist

Lost 30ibs in a month lads

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>>135291666

>>135285364
Republic.

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>>135291227
>implying anyone was ever killed by gassing

>>135291904

>had Italy, Hungary, Finland, Bulgaria, Romania, half of France, and Slovakia on their side

>WOW IT TOOK 3 OF YOU TO KILL ME!

amazing. Notice what a fucking farce neo-nazism is and how it hasnt accomplished a fucking thing EVER. You yourself arent going to do a fucking thing other than post about how cool SS uniforms were and le ebin memes about jews and you know it.

>>135286413
>Meh, goring had a war inury that kept him on painkillers and from exercising.
Hitler also abused painkillers. Funny how nazis always find an excuse to act like a degenerate.

>>135285364
I pick Absolute Monarchy

>>135285633
BRRRAAAAAAP

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there's only one real option

>>135287762

>changing an image so it fits your needs

Communist detected

into the gulag lad

>>135292164
get old faggot

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>>135291615
>>135291666
>>135291767

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>>135287762
>>135292287

case in point

>>135289940
Why is bomber Harris being so mean to Meier?

>>135285364
Libertarianism.
I have the right to associate with that fat retard and its none of your business

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>>135292377
this

>>135291394
>completely different

He doesn't know The second 30 years war started in 1914 ended 1945

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>>135291976
>what is the Labor Theory of Value

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I'm a Chaotic Neutral Necromancer

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>>135292377
3rd option

>>135286413

he got shot during the beer hall putsch and then got addicted to painkillers, he got fat because he was a glutton. His home had a massive collection of expensive wine, a massive art collection worth millions, and he had a pet lion. He took full advantage of his position and lived in luxury while the dumb ass plebs lived in shit for "the struggle of the nation!" or whatever trip he fed them

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>>135292505

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>>135292561

>>135291615
at least a human, unlike you, jebiewdenko

>>135289940
Why couldn't Harris bomb Berlin in 1940? And only could after a huge percent of the Luftwaffe was sent in the east? The Luftwaffe cucked both the RAF and the French Airforce. The vastness of the Soviet Union however was something Goring couldn't beat.

>>135291925
Young Stalin was hot!

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>>135292650
>polish
>human

>>135291838
>>135291788
It's hilarious how libertards think that they'll be at the top of the pyramid.

Unless you're the CEO of a fortune 500 company right now then you're a wagecuck like everyone else.

>>135292777
>The Luftwaffe cucked both the RAF and the French Airforce.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Britain

>>135292537
Oasis of Marr. One of my favorite zones in the entire game. I used to cast levitate, aggro all those spectres, and drag them over to the dock where all the newbies hung out.

>>135292998
Beef kebab with mildly hot sauce, please, and hurry

>>135293092

>believes the cards are stacked against everyone because CEOs are too powerful and believes in a free market, they are some how invisible

>wants instead a system by which the government literally puts laws into places making CEO invincible and tying a not in the rope, making sure no one else can ever replace them

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>>135292537
>>135293245
I miss it

>>135292998
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3HiODopqcI

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>>135285364
> No constitutional monarchy

>>135285364
Communist boy pussy

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>>135292561
>>135292609
>>135292505
now this is propaganda

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>>135292161
>t.Jew

>>135285364
>live in fascist nation
Communism is now called socialism
Capitalism means getting robbed by state troopers to benefit state officials
Libertarianism is getting executed for wrong thinking
Fascism is serving in n army that supresses the people you claim to serve after which you getting another state ordered job

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>>135293092
>>135293364
>mfw im an enlightened distributist

>>135293425
Pro-calitalism propaganda?

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>>135292505

>>135293153
>British fighter aircraft production continued at a rate surpassing Germany's by 2 to 1. The British produced 10,000 aircraft in 1940, in comparison to Germany's 8,000
>Maintaining Aerial superiority over your own skies
>Victory
???
Did a British bomber cross the Rhine in 1940?

>>135293413
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCb09o0HKiA

>>135286413
Also forced to dress as a woman and take it up the arse

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>>135293425
>From a series of comics explaining the views of prominent philosophers including Rand, Marx, Nietzsche, Smith, etc.
>literally just takes quotes from Marx's work and explains them
>propaganda
This is some next-level cuckery

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>>135293279
clean my toilet please, and hurry
>>135293404
>Posts gyppos
I don't see how this has anything to do with my flag? I suppose polish jews are the same as the polish then.

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>>135293648
le ubermensch

>>135285364
I want to cuddle with the Libertarianism bear

>>135293766

youre actually trying to argue that the Lufftwaffe cucked the RAF when the RAF destroyed them at The Battle of Britain and continued the rest of the war by bombing Germany into dust.

>>135291227
this shit is exactly why im a centrist

Is North Korea fascist?

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>>135289940
>harris
>can't touch luftwaffe
>resorts to bombing women and children at the LITERAL END OF THE FUCKING TEN YEAR WAR

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

pic related btw

>>135294009
>Destroyed them
[Citation needed]
>"The Luftwaffe would remain the largest operational Air Force in Europe until US entry in the conflict in late 1941"

>>135294180
It's an authoritarian state with hard-coded class structures, sure. But calling it Fascist a la Mussolini, Hitler, would be a bit of a stretch.

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>>135294209
Ten year war? BTW Dresden was a major rail hub and supply depot for the nazis.

>>135286413
>i got a condition
>muh thyroid
Don't make excuses for that lardass, lardass.

>>135293766
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Berlin_in_World_War_II#1940_to_1943

>The first RAF raid on Berlin took place on the night of 25 August 1940; 95 aircraft were dispatched to bomb Tempelhof Airport near the center of Berlin and Siemensstadt, of which 81 dropped their bombs in and around Berlin

Seems they did.

>>135294419
As in NK does it better?
They rule through total fear, if You fuck up/(try to) ecape Your family (also) gets it.

>>135292609
>not a subjectivist
>not Zum Abschluß des Marxschen Systems

Nationalism before Capitalism. Thats what i choose.

> Mandatory military service.
> Mandatory labor/civil service if unemployed by private industry.
> No social welfare for those who are able bodied.
> poor children work after school to pay for their meals and necessities.

>>135286413
Exercising burns minimal calories. There are wheelchair bound people who lose large amounts of weight just through caloric restriction.

>>135294209
You're an idiot. We had better aircraft, better tactics, and better pilots. Retards never even developed a heavy bomber.

>>135292164
Goering got shot you idiot

>>135294720
>getting shot in the stomach
>excuses

>>135294729
As in there's a difference between Fascism and North Korea's special flavor of Authoritarianism

>>135293579
godspeed

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>>135294721
>81 bombers made Berlin
>2,000 German bombers dropped their load over London
Success.

>>135285364
I mean the libertarian looks like he's the happiest?

>>135285633
THE BANTZ

>>135292560
Germany had the highest average quality of life in the world in the 1930s.

>>135294798
>bolster the military industrial complex
>punish poor kids for being poor
Real great way to bolster Nationalism.

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>>135285633
DOWN WITH THE THICCness

>>135294932
>That is Fascism
Fascism is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism, characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and control of industry and commerce.

>>135285364
Why exactly is fascism the buff guy? Isn't fascism the same thing as socialism except for nationalist views?

>>135294962
>The distance from the front to Berlin is ten times the distance from the front to London
>RAF still able to bomb Berlin
>Not success

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>>135289940

>>135290939
why is social "progress" conflated with scientific progress

>>135295060

[citation needed]

>>135285364
I choose communism so I can go /otter twink/ mode

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>>135287539
Capitalism

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>>135287762
>implying

hey look at this chart... wow the growth rate of communist countries really took off after 1990, I wonder why

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>>135285364
>muh fit non-deviant nazis

>>135296048
>I was born

>>135291976
>muh supply and demand
yeah no. This is coming from a capitalist, S&D on a macro scale are intellectually bankrupt.

also
>muh LTV >>135292505 >>135292561
etc

The LTV is the biggest peice of shit in any economic school. There is literally no good evidence for it, and Marx's tables are internally inconsistent, chaotic, and dynamic, without him even realizing it.

>>135296459
no, actually, it's because they transitioned to CAPITALISM.

>>135292609

The whole idea that time is valuable is inherently flawed. Many choose not to produce with their time on the clock or to be inefficient. 4 hours working at UPS requires 10X the energy and effort as 5 hours working at TJ Maxx. Both are jobs that anyone may have and they pay almost the same.

Anyone who survives at UPS is worth something. It's a very difficult job on many levels. While at TJ Maxx, you can hide in the bathroom for an hour and still get paid. Someone may work for an amount of time and produce a fraction of someone working the same amount of time -- not even considering skills/training/education/etc.

There is no fairer way than free-market Capitalism. You are paid based on the demand for your work which derives from the effort you've put in. Not who you know, not who's your daddy, not how politically correct or social-able you are.

>>135288672
That was Röhm, not Göring

>>135285364
Communism obv for higher customization options in later levels

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>>135294209
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes hans al germani

>>135285364
Facism is not an economic idiology you autist, you can be capitalist country AND facist or you can be comunist country and facist as well.

>>135297003
Time is scarce, therefore it has value. The notion of opportunity cost is inherently based off time.
>Many choose not to produce with their time on the clock or to be inefficient
Source or fuck off. It ought to be assumed that the majority of workers for the majority of the history of capitalism have spent their time on the job working. Assuming otherwise would be quite the claim that I don't think you can back up.
>4 hours working at UPS requires 10X the energy and effort as 5 hours working at TJ Maxx. Both are jobs that anyone may have and they pay almost the same.
Your point being? A CEO can work for two hours a day, materially produce nothing, and, given consultants, aides, informants, spend little to no effort on his actual job, but is paid 500x more than any of the factory workers who produce the actual material goods on which the CEO's fortune was made.

The Labor Theory of Value does not talk about the value of the JOB, but the value of the commodity that is produced.

>There is no fairer way than free-market Capitalism.
Except in the thousands scenarios in which the harder worker gets paid less for their job?

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This is more important choice

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>>135285364

>>135287539
>shoot up
Kek

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>>135285364
you know it baby

>>135294837
Because then never resorted to large bombing campaigns like the allies did. Tactical bombers suited them better.

>>135298198
>A CEO can work for two hours a day
source or fuck off

>>135292609
>>135292561
>>135292505
>REEE WHY IS A CAR $25,000 IF ROBOTS BUILD IT ON AN ASSEMBLY LINE IN 15 MINUTES???

Commutards, everybody

>>135298723
Because of the labor needed to produce the raw material that goes into the making of the car.

>>135298700
The key word here being "can".

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>>135285364
>newfags didn't even get the joke yet.
fucking kek

>>135285364
the fat capitalist. my first playthrough is always easy mode. 80,000 aircraft, 40,000 tanks, 7,000 ships, and 12 million personnel. commies and fascists BTFO.

>>135299841
Here for all Lolberts to see.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb8cErokGFs

>>135298198
> Source or fuck off

Have you ever worked a job?

> A CEO can work for two hours a day, materially produce nothing

How's that? Why even have a government then -- governments never produce anything according to you. What we do isn't worth anything unless we're physically creating a product? What an oxy moron that is; Capitalism is bad but only products matter. Holy shit.

> but the value of the commodity that is produced.

Which is determined by the market as "we're not talking about the value of the JOB" which you construe as time spent when it should be a derivative of effort with respect to time.

> Except in the thousands scenarios in which the harder worker gets paid less for their job?

That exists in our current socialist system. I don't know if it existed previously and neither do you.

>>135293466
>his argument makes sense! quick, call him a jew!

>>135297003
>Me working as kind of an intern
>Make coffee for the whole floor with pleasure
>Go and take a shit happily
>Still end up with no leftovers works at the end of the day.
I could have done my weekly cores in half the week that I worked
But I was in a service industry so simply being there at the end of the phone was already my job :(
Anything else I could do that got me away from doing nothing at my computer was welcomed

>>135300168
>Have you ever worked a job?
Can you give a statistic?

>Why even have a government then -- governments never produce anything according to you?
>What is public infrastructure?
>What is social security?
>What are public universities?

>What we do isn't worth anything unless we're physically creating a product?
It's called Materialism. Capitalism and Communism are both based off of it, you idiot. It assumes that the world as we engage with it is entirely material, physical. Ideology and the realm of Ideas don't mean anything, what only matters is the physical fact. Therefore, the only meaningful work is material work-- work that has material ends, i.e. production.

In Capitalism, the laborer, the one who produces the goods and material on which the whole system is based, receives little in compensation for the work they produce as compared to the CEO-- the owner of the means of production. The CEO himself produces nothing of his actual product, and yet he reaps the highest benefits (The Capital). His job is a meaningless one. The laborers themselves, the producers, ought to be the ones deciding management and, according to communism, seize the mans of production. And it's slowly happening again:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jul/18/cope-capitalism-failed-factory-workers-greek-workplace-control

>What an oxy moron that is; Capitalism is bad but only products matter
Capitalism is bad because it's wasteful, inefficient, and serves the few and idle rather than the hardworking majority. Products, meaning material goods, not necessarily Commodities, are the only things that matter because they're the only things we interact with. The world is a material one.

>when it should be a derivative of effort with respect to time
Congrats, you've learned the Labor Theory of Value.

>That exists in our current socialist system. I don't know if it existed previously and neither do you.
>Current system
>Socialist
Ha, fucking hardly.

>>135301627
Archived
https://archive.is/X8GPQ

>>135300288

I don't know what your point is. My point was some people bust their ass and risk death to make the same as you. I was almost killed at work today for $11.50 an hour. I have a STEM degree, I don't know why I work here, but I do as I'm terrible at getting a job and subconsciously want to work hard. Used to work freelance and make 6-figures, at my computer, but shit happens.

At the end of the day, I know I'd probably kill myself if my job was easy like yours. I don't know why. Perhaps some ego disorder requires my job to be miserable and prideful in some way, knowing that 95% of new hires quit their first 2 days and barely anyone makes it a year. But the masochists that make a year stay there for 30 years and retire wealthy.

>>135301660
Thanks, I always forget that

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>>135285633
T H I C C

also libertarianism is this, you faggot

>>135301627
> Can you give a statistic?

I said...

> Many choose not to produce with their time on the clock or to be inefficient

Then you said...

> Source or fuck off.

So it seems to me that you have never worked a real job. So, regarding providing you with some nonsense that illustrates my point, you can fuck off. Because everyone else here knows that many choose to not produce on the clock.

>Why even have a government then -- governments never produce anything according to you?
>What is public infrastructure?
>What is social security?
>What are public universities?

Which governments haven't hired private companies to do these things and how is 'social security' a material product? Schools were originally a product of the Church that the state stole, btw, as are much social programs.

> It's called Materialism. Capitalism and Communism are both based off of it, you idiot

So you're just being edgy then? What are you, a Native American wannabe? Or you just played Eve way too fucking much?

> Therefore, the only meaningful work is material work-- work that has material ends, i.e. production.

The only meaningful work is shit that robots can do. The people who designed the robots did nothing. The generals that protected a society capable of fostering innovation also did nothing. And, of course, the soldiers did nothing meaningful whatsoever. How autistic can one be?

You're right about one thing; Objectivism and Communism are two sides of the same autistic coin. Seriously, go lift weights, eat 200 g of protein a day, and take some Testosterone-E or Trenbolone. Cured my autism, no joke, and now I get laid whenever I want.

> Ha, fucking hardly.

Well, we certainly don't live in a Capitalist society and haven't for some time. Call it whatever you want. A key component of a Capitalistic society is natural selection.

>>135287762
that's why they have no money.

>>135292377
this

>>135292377
yea boiii
(((Adam Smith)))

>>135299273
why would shareholders allow a CEO to only work 2 hours a day? have you ever even owned stock, bro? i get to vote on how every company i own shares in is run. i don't know anyone who would tolerate a 2 hour a day dickhead with as much money as there is on the line.

>>135300111
kek gary johnson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOT_BoGpCn4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXhR41lsEJY

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>>135289940
>failed completely and only societal rejects and weakling losers LARP as it since its a completely irrelevant and dead ideology
Why are you describing commienism?

>>135285364
whichever one gets me a gf

>>135288819
>Implying that WASPs won't jew the fellow population.

Mate, wasn't that the reason you said "fuck you and your tea" to britbongs at Boston?

>>135291925
>>135292869
It's not him, imbecile.

>>135292377
this

>>135285633
/thread

>>135299841
>communist infiltrators in a party inflitrated by communists
You could just as well make fun of all Americans with that guy and make the same mistake.

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>>135303254
You said
> Many choose not to produce with their time on the clock or to be inefficient
As proof that Time isn't valuable because workers waste most of their time.
I asked you to provide a source to prove that laborers aren't producing. Otherwise your example doesn't make any sense, and doesn't prove anything other than your co-workers are wasting company time.

>So it seems to me that you have never worked a real job
Blah blah blah. I work at a library. Still not an argument.
>Which governments haven't hired private companies to do these things
It's true that the Gov outsources jobs, but the US government still directly hires for public works projects. See: The New Deal.

>How is 'social security' a material product?
It affects the material realm. It's a system in which people can access the goods and services that can keep your material body functioning and healthy.

>Schools were originally a product of the Church that the state stole, btw, as are much social programs.
>Schools didn't exist in Greece or Rome
Not to mention that it's a moot point about the system's origin. It's now controlled by the Gov, the, supposedly, representation of the people's will. That's what matters.

>So you're just being edgy then? What are you, a Native American wannabe?
So you're giving up the argument altogether because you don't know how your own ideology works?

>The people who designed the robots did nothing, etc.
Those are all examples of material jobs.

>Objectivism and Communism are two sides of the same autistic coin
Care to explain? Communism and Socialism are nothing more than evolved, efficient, and moral Capitalism.
>Go lift weights etc.
I already do those things. I'm in school, work at school, am in a steady relationship, etc. Don't distract from the point that you have no idea what you're talking about.

>Well, we certainly don't live in a Capitalist society and haven't for some time.
Muh Not Real Capitalism. You're just as bad as Not Real Communists.

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>>135293413
>constitutional
Fuck off. ((((Democracy)))) is a meme.

>>135305116
>the thing that limits government is the same as the thing that expands it through dysgenics

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>>135285364
Fasicm

>>135299841
i've never understood what was wrong with this, am i missing something? all i see is a guy having a good time. how is this hurting anyone? what kind of immature spaz is triggered by this behavior?
>REEEEE STOP HAVING FUN
>FUN WAS INVENTED BY KIKES
>NAZIS HATE FUN
>why aren't you natsoc /pol/?
hmmmm

>>135287935
>Phil Heath
>white
lolololol

>>135294914
Surviving a gunshot wound isn't an excuse for becoming a hamplanet.

>>existing for a few years counts as a nation r-right guys?

>>135288819
socialists are pro gun idiot

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>>135295515
I'm apperantly one of those leftist social justice warriors. What the fuck?

>>135305369
wtf i hate ebul notzees nao

>>135305116
Athenian Democracy lasted 140 years

>>135292127
die in concentration camp

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>>135305859
Most of /pol/ are liberals and would like Rawls. Don't be fooled.

>>135305859
>>135305859

Website is obviously a jew plot to trick you into thinking you're a cuck.

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>>135305958
Yea me too

>>135287762
Anybody would be free to run a business the way it's depicted in the bottom picture in a free market society.
The guy in the top pic is there voluntarily and the dude with the money bag is giving him money for the value he is creating for him.

>>135285364
According to pic related, capitalism and libertarism are almost the same, except the edgyness of the later.
And according to that, i'm a communist even if i strongly dislike it

>>135306331
Libertarianism is just the false idea that rampant Capitalism would result in anything different from what we have today.

>>135305962
Completely different scenario. Master race is:
>Absolute monarchy at the national level
>Athenian style direct democracy at city/community level

>>135305962
I was talking about this modern ochlocracy, of course. Ancient greek democracy had to do with this modern aberration as much as modern republics have to do with the Roman Republic.

>>135285633

T H I C K A R M O R

>>135287762
The moral of this comic is don't be a black guy

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>>135307433

>>135293648
Why are Commies just a bunch of faggots now? I still would have hated them but at least I could respect Stalin commies.

>>135307258
Or
>Athenian style direct democracy at city/community level
>Athenian style direct democracy by elected community representatives at national level
>change work week for days strictly dedicated to politicking
>free public education system actually educates populous and trains them to be political philosophers and laborers
>Make all government decisions transparent and directly accessible by citizens

>>135292164

Yeah its funny how nationalist are typically war heroes and veterans while leftist despots like Pol Pot were (((academics))). What's that expression about those who can and teaching?

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>>135305039

Yes, many laborers do not produce. It's not the year 1900.

> I work at a library. Still not an argument.

Enough said.

> It affects the material realm

As does everything.

Regardless it's pointless to reply any further. You have no real argument. Your counters are simply bullshit. Your argument is basically a CEO cannot produce when you have no concept of what a CEO does.

It's friday night; I'm going out with my friends. I doubt you're serious but good luck with that bullshit.

>>135289626
>NOT REAL SOCIALISM XD!!!!
neck yourself with a nigger dick

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>>135293413
absolute monarchy

>>135308308
Sure. Enjoy your night alone at home. Maybe you could read a book, given all the free time you have.

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>>135285364
Corporate Fascism

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>>135306138
>implying most of /pol/ are nu/pol/tards from leddit
You should go back to /leftypol/

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>>135308836
This.

>>135308847
Old Rand Paul /pol/ was just as liberal. The only meaningful difference is the rise in /x/-tier threads.

Capitalism is not separate from libertarianism, or even fascism for that matter. Dummy.

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>>135285364
>he chose poorly

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>>135305479
It's a goddamn embarrassment and looks fucking disgusting. It belittles the political party and makes libertarians look like a bigger joke than they already are.

>>135309042
It's not just faggot lolbert influx from 2012-2013, but also all the shitty kekistani newfags that came here since Trump election.
Most of Oldfags know that democracy and liberalism won't help of fix anything in current modern world problem, but just make it more decadent and degenerate because of their precious capital fanaticism.

I swear to God, every fucking election more and more undesirables join /pol/ and make it more shit with their normalfaggotry.

>>135309042
except we were still racist as fuck

liberal in the sense of classical liberalism maybe, but that was only one part of old /pol/, the other half was literal nazis

>>135307258
i can agree but what about a Stratocracy starship troopers style

>>135292164
nothing is more honorable than victory.

If you have to abuse panzerschocolad or amphetamines to push your body to inhuman limits then so be it

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>>135309942

Don't worry bro. We got this. This kills the lolbertarian and "muh individualism"

>>135294070
So you can die gassed in the bread line of the gulag's sweatshop?

>>135309942
Stfu dude we need to expand the movement. Yes Trump brought some retards but he also redpilled many people. Democracy was a mistake and one we will overthrow the republic.

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>>135310289
>This kills the lolberts
you are like a little baby, watch this.

>>135309967
Racism and Liberalism are not mutually exclusive.

>>135309942
Let's not conflate democracy and liberalism, that would a damning mistake.
The "Decadence" and "Degeneracy" are products of Capitalism, which has proven to be thoroughly anti-democratic.
The Frankfurt School spent a lot of time talking about this, but now /pol/ is convinced that they're part of some Jew world conspiracy plot, etc.

>>135310536
Wish I had that political compass meme where each section had to do with Jews. Bottom right quadrant was "wants to be the jew" and its so fucking true.

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>>135292377
>white women
>wheat fields
Sign me up.

>>135310322
exactly

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capitalism!!

>>135293364
then go play project 1999 and go back to classic eq

>>135287762
So who decides what gets done? Socalism is retarded. Nazism only worked because there was someone in Control and they all wanted the asme thing. If you think bernie"bank fraud's socialism is at all like that your diluted.

>>135312197

>You will never wake the sleeper

Why even live?

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>>135285364
A Man's gotta eat Mr. Lahey

>>135285633
THIC fpbp

>>135312349

i woke the sleeper on live and project 1999

its up to velious expansion

>>135286413
Were those painkillers 1000kcal each?

>>135312349
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58VUVkrPChI

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>>135310677
Frankfurt school spent a lot of time arguing about how to criticize everything to destabilize traditional moral sense of society through their infectious teachings...
Uncontrolled and unlimited capitalism is just a product of that destabilized decadent society.

Ask yourself why wasn't capitalist products and market so "degenerate" in sense in the past like in 50's America? Because you're Marxist teaching weren't that popular, prevalent and influential at those times...
Not denying that Capitalism isn't more subversive to degeneracy on it own tho.

Capitalism is like a double edged sword and should be on the leash of the state like a wild dog it is.

>>135312760
>BDA

back to leftypol you cuck.

>>135312269
>So who decides what gets done?
The workers do. See: https://archive.is/X8GPQ
Workers can democratically decide what ought to be done that day and what ought to be done in the future. The work is decided by everyone and is geared towards helping everyone.

Capitalism creates an abundance of excess and waste. Socialism and Communism are designed to take these wasteful means of production, and using them to create enough for all. The reason Socialism and Communism fail is because they're implemented too early in unindustrialized countries (Venezuela, China, Russia, Cambodia), and they all tried to implement state-capitalist means to create the infrastructure. This always leads to totalitarianism. You need capitalist infrastructure BEFORE the shift. Again, Socialism is little more than evolved and humane capitalism.

In 1st world states like the US and Britain, Socialism would work amazingly.

>>135285364
i identify as a label

>>135312875

fuck you shill
the only lefty here is faggots like you

best character name trumpcard

>>135285364
>Fascism
The gayest looking one, please. I want to cream on Steve Reeves's tummy.

>>135313163

Sorry I played on the patrician server AKA Red99 not some line simulator like blue.

>>135312803
Pretty damn clear you haven't read any Frankfurt works. They spent their time comparing material conditions to the ideology of the time, exposing its contradictions and shortcomings. The only thing they were trying to "destabilize" were the already degrading systems in place.

>Ask yourself why wasn't capitalist products and market so "degenerate" in sense in the past like in 50's America?
They absolutely were. The nuclear family and suburban model are fundamentally flawed and have failed miserably to produce happy, satisfied, and secure populations. The downfall of the American middle-class is proof of this.

>Because you're Marxist teaching weren't that popular, prevalent and influential at those times...
They still aren't today. They've never been popular outside of academic circles. Cultural Marxism is the biggest farce I've seen on here in awhile. Not to mention that the Frankfurts were the most active from the '30s through early '50s.

>Capitalism is like a double edged sword and should be on the leash of the state like a wild dog it is.
Sure. We should have Socialism instead.

>>135313039
So you ARE retarded! The workers ALL agree on EVERYTHING all the time huh? What happens when they disagree and can't reach an agreement? You really think 300 million people will ever agree on anything?

>>135313640

fuck you and your pvp server too

>>135313952

Don't hate because I was slaying and making pixel gainz while you were sucking off people like chest and staring at a wall.

>all that matters in life is the availability of mass consumer goods and making money
how the fuck can normies live with themselves?

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>>135289626
Yeye. He also said immigration weakened the working class.

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>>135313893
>Didn't bother to read the article
They discuss, vote, and accept the majority. Disagreements can be settled through compromise and reasonable discussion. They're getting far more say over what work they're doing now than you'll ever get under a capitalist supervisor.

>You really think 300 million people will ever agree on anything?
No, but I think factory workers (avg. 100-300) certainly can come to a consensus about what ought to be done on any given day.

If you're talking about how that plays out in a state, it's still simple, and there are of course variations to it.
>Direct Democracy at township level
>Elected senate at national level
You can further strengthen this by establishing whole days in the workweek strictly for politics and education; nationalizing education would greatly strengthen this as well.

At its worst, you still have the means of production creating enough for everyone. Socialism is aimed at cutting the fat off Capitalism.

>>135287762
As opposed to leftists all being faggots?

>>135285633
>(((pole))) kikelover

>>135313780
>The nuclear family and suburban model are fundamentally flawed and have failed miserably to produce happy, satisfied, and secure populations.
Now this smells exactly like cultural marxist propaganda taught in (((high academia))) right here.
The downfall of the American middle-class is because of those same neo-conservative and noe-liberal policies shifting jobs and market internationally for sake of their beloved globalism and more cheap labour(you know... like uncontrolled capitalists like)
>They still aren't today
Say that to million millennials who march with antifa to burn their cities.
>We should have Socialism instead
Yeah sure, just look how great it worked for Brazil and Venezuela. Socialism works for a time and then destroyed themselves due to inefficient economy.

You sound like a burger burnout who came here from /leftypol/ after being kicked out for not being tankie enough.
Or just am anarkiddie.

>>135314773
>THAT IS THE DEMAND
>HEY HEY HO HO
times really haven't changed

>>135314773
factory workers are not specialized in trades, logistics, economics

>>135314773
>No, but I think factory workers (avg. 100-300) certainly can come to a consensus about what ought to be done on any given day.
Have you ever worked in a factory, like ever? Do you have any idea what the average factory worker does every day and the knowledge they have of their sprawling workplace excluding the tiny area they inhabit?

>>135292537
:( i still play eq2

>>135315618
>The downfall of the American middle-class is because of those same neo-conservative and noe-liberal policies shifting jobs and market internationally for sake of their beloved globalism and more cheap labour
The youth revolts of the '60s-'90s would strongly disagree with you, all of which were aimed at critiquing and dismantling their unhappy existences within the so-called Middle Class lifestyle-- one that has consistently proven to not deliver its promises (especially now).

The outsourcing of jobs too, while I find deplorable, is also a bit of a non-issue, especially when you're talking about the middle-class, those who wouldn't be expected to take up factory jobs in the first place. Contrary to what we're told, there is plenty of work to be done; it's obvious just by walking down the street. Infrastructure is in disrepair, people aren't being properly fed or cared for, thousands aren't getting clean water, and even more don't have access to housing. These need grand undertakings to be solved, but, sure, the out-sourcing of factory work is the core issue in the job market.

Sounds a lot more like you've constructed an idealized and mythical age that never actually existed.

>Say that to million millennials who march with antifa to burn their cities.
Most of them are upset liberal kids who can't make sense of the world around them, and resort to violence as an outburst of social contradictions.
Only the marginal, marginal few actually read theory.

>>135315947
Except Eugene Debs was actually a successful socialist politician before he was murdered. There are no strong or large socialist parties in America, and there haven't been since Debs' time. DSA are nothing more than Social Democrats.

>>135316615
Neither are our politicians. This can also be solved through freer, public education. Our current system just keeps the workers uninformed

And when it comes to the day to day work of managing a factory, who knows it better than the worker himself?

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>>135285633
Before his war injuries he was a Chad.

>>135305859
simple questionaires like these aren't accurate to determine your true political leanings.
it's possible you have an incredibly strong belief that's so uncommon that they wouldn't even ask it, yet it would throw your position completely off, for example, euthanizing the elderly.

>>135311599
Can someone explain the wheat fields meme?

>>135285633
nice cherrypicking jewboy

>>135292505
You can already tell by the """art"""style that it's going to be shit and full of non-arguments

>>135292164
>American
>calling others degenerate
ok

>>135319055
It's from a comic series that casually explains the views of various prominent philosophers, right and left alike.
The same comic also pokes fun at Marx.

>>135317073
>The youth revolts of the '60s-'90s would strongly disagree with you, all of which were aimed at critiquing and dismantling their unhappy existences within the so-called Middle Class lifestyle
>critiquing and dismantling their unhappy existences
Just like what their academies were teaching them... critical thinking, artificial guilt, toxic sexual repression and rest of garbage Marxists Intelectuals were puting in brains of theses kids.
>Sounds a lot more like you've constructed an idealized and mythical age that never actually existed.
I wasn't referring just to American nuclear family of 50's golden age, but a simple family structure of western world pre-great war.
Those were most stable and happy family construct of those times and in mid 20th century that construct was labeled as toxic and evil by western marxist intellectuals.
>Most of them are upset liberal kids who can't make sense of the world around them
Most of those kids are brainwashed in the campuses the same guilt and hatred to their civilization as those kids in late 60's and 70's.
Most of antifa kids who preach anarcho-communism are college students who live in a lavish middle class life with high education lifestyle like those same bourgeois they pretend to hate, not knowing how real working class feels.

>>135308308
I don't get this comic

>>135285364
Anything but capitalism