Give me one good reason why you haven't gone to church yet.

>>135275074
ain't sunday

You automatically lose all desires to larp at the moment you lose your virginity.
It'll happen to you too

God ain't real.

>go to church
>"wtf is he doing here?!"

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A Muslim loving Marxist traitor took over it. Haven't been able to set foot in the building since.

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>>135275074
God's a spook

>>135275446
You can always visit more independent churches.

>>135275074
It's degenerated into heretical hipster garbage
>inb4 muh catholicism
They're even worse.

I was raised without religion
tried it out when I was an adult
'lol wow what a bunch of hypocrites'
'peace out fuckers'

>>135275563
But they're all equally wrong.

>>135275074
coz god is a cunt and church as an institution is a bunch of faggots.

It's a waste of time

>>135275599
I hate those catholicucks too they are the worst over here in Europe.

>>135275446
This is honestly a big reason. I stopped going after I found out the only reason to go is for community. The church, as an institution, is sickening to me. The spiritual part is doable but I'd rather do that at home instead of going to church and supporting the institution which supports that piece of scum, the pope.

>>135275074
I'm not a kike worshiper. Also it's Friday.

>>135275074
Read your Bible if you want religious truth, believing others without scrutinising what they're saying leads to our current (((Western world)))

Be warned pajeet.

>>135275074
i'm not christian

>>135275074
I'm not religious.
>>135275517
>my thoughts exactly

>>135275766
Catholicism claims that the pope is infallible. So either Catholicism is wrong, or you're wrong. [spoiler]Catholicism is a heretical cult[/spoiler]

>>135275074
I'm not a retard.

>>135275074
went to church today

funeral

surprised my black suit still fits

>>135275074
I'm not a theist.

>>135275879
CATHOLISM IS A DEVILLISH AND PEAGAN INSTITUTION.

Catholics worship saints and Mary (not god)
Lutheran churches around here believe some strange things
Don't get me started with baptists
The other assorted denominations are made up or hippy scum
>tfw not born mormon

>>135276071
mormons are also SATANIC

>>135276071
>Catholics worship saints and Mary (not god)
Literally nothing wrong with that

>>135275074
It's too far.

>>135275074
Because they'll tell me to worship the messenger Jesus as well as God. Why would I want to associate partners to God? What do you take me for?

>>135275074
Went to church most of my life. Even went to a bible college in california for a year. I've heard everything there is from the bible believing church. Stopped going 5-6 years ago because I always felt guilt for not being good enough. Feel much better now, and I have a more "secular" view on things.

>>135275074
The steeple is shaped the way it is to funnel energy, just like the pyramids.
After the calenders were changed to Gregorian, the day that was Sunday is now Monday, meaning those that pray in church on (((Sunday))) are actually praying on Saturday (Saturn/Satan).
This funnels your energy straight to Satan.
Pray in your own home or on Monday.

I believe in Natural Selection in humans and Christian charity directly impedes that

>>135276242
And behold!Allah will say: "O Jesus the son of Mary! Didst thou say unto men, worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of Allah'?" He will say: "Glory to Thee! never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my heart, Thou I know not what is in Thine. For Thou knowest in full all that is hidden.

Quran: 5:116.

It's boring and I hate it if somebody tries to corrupt my mind with easy to disprove bullshit

sage and reported for not being a political topic

>>135276145
Mormons are some of the best people I know and actually hold their faith. Unlike Catholics who let their kids go to Warped tour then wonder why their daughters keep 'miscarrying'

I dont have any faith and I dont want to LARP or blueball actual believers

>>135275074
unbaptised heathen
(((christianity)))

>>135275074
Religion is dumb.

>>135275446
>Catholic church = all churches

Wrong. Went to church for 20+ years without knowing or caring who the acting pope was.

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>>135276294
Could you elaborate on that? I need a.. run down

>>135275074
I don't wanna tithe my money away to corrupt sodomites, jews and refugees

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>>135275074
I don't want me or my children to get raped.

>>135276159
The ten commandments say otherwise.

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>>135275074
Because I am not a degenerate cuck bowing down before kikes on sticks.

>>135275074
Because Finnish church is filled with nothing but middle-aged people or older.

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>>135275074
i dont believe in magic.

if i suddently can throw fireballs and lightning bolts, then i might go to church when im done destroying the world.

>>135276690
Jesus WASN'T a kike He IS God Messias!!

>>135276294
>funnels your energy straight to Satan

Tell me you don't actually believe in this entropy bullshit.

>>135275074
I'm jewish.

>>135276749
I heard church goers in Scandinavia are the biggist liberal hippies you'll find up there

Because I informed myself about other faiths and PIE faith. Now I practice my own faith centered around my Hearth and it makes me happy and feel whole.

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>>135275074
I don't believe in god, but everyone else is open to believe him.

>>135276519
Pontifex Maximus is the title of the pope. If you do some digging you find that it stems from around Emporer Nero's time, who was vilified by the Jews as the most evil man ever.
The reason?
He fought against the Jews doing what they're doing today, and he lost.
Pontifex Maximus was the title given to the original popes who were "prophecied" by God to take the most holy position.
The "prophecy" was them knowing the history and rewriting the books to align with the birth of the guys that were to be pope.
They wanted to be gods, so they made themselves gods.
This ties in with the removal of the books of Enoch because it was too revealing of the actual history and the changing of the Julian calendar (again Roman) to gregorian.

>>135277094
explain

>>135275074
Jesus is a cuck and god a retard who's filling this shithole planet with niggers and mudshits. I bet god is getting ass raped by Allah daily.

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>>135276630
>lel Jesus is libcuck Marxist globalist xD
"Jesus said: 'Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.'" Matthew 10:34

"So Jesus made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple courts, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables." John 2:15

Ludendfoff should have studied his Bible a little closer.

>>135275074

Christianity is the islam of the west

>>135275879
You don't understand how Papal Infallibility works, because you are a heathen.

Protip: It can only be applied to matters of doctrine and has only been invoked exactly two times in about 2000 years.

Pope cannot say his pair of twos are a royal flush or that we must let Muslims invade and be correct; not how it works.

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My spritiual beliefs are based around chi and reincarnation.

Finding out about Semiramis and Nimrod and heir "sun" Tammuz was a bit of a blow. Whores of Babylon adds anew dimension to the world...

I'll never be able to look at a Honeybaked ham in the eyes at the end of Easter again.

because church is for faggots and cucks who can't think for themselves. christian men are a disgrace, fucking pussies

I havent been to church in a while, but I pray every night, reaffirming my faith and asking forgiveness. I ask God to help me be a better person.

Hope that's good for Him.

>Old geezers selfishly hijacking church services to put on their shitty little concerts every week
>Nu-male priests using the homily to shill for open borders
>Every mass concluding with some plea for parishioners to give money so that homes can be built in Haiti, or refugees can be settled here in America, and so on and so on
It makes me fucking nauseous.

Because Jesus Christ is the Messiah, not God.

the mosque is the true place for every believer

>>135275074
Nothing of value there.

>>135275074

I'm buddhist.

>>135276519
>>135277234
For more on the pyramid energy look into David Wilcock, he explains it very well.
Basically it's the fact that certain shapes gather the energy of the universe, the free energy around us that makes every atom work, and by sitting in certain positions in the pyramid (kings/queens chamber) you will get different levels of energy flowing through you.
If you put a small pyramid under your chair while you meditate the energy flows through it and up into you.
The steeple is a combo that pulls your energy up and out.

>>135277627
Is it true you put your asses in the air while praying so angels can sodomize you?

>>135275074
fucking boring and pointless
I already know to respect my fellow man and treat others like I want to be treated

>>135275074
I can give you many good reasons.

i) They don't read the Bible in church, they read rejected asylum applications
ii) They don't talk about Jesus, they talk about refugees
iii) They are pro-gay
iv) They are pro-lesbian
v) They are pro-tranny
vi) They are pro woman priests and bishops
vii) They exhort people to break the law by housing illegal aliens
viii) They care more about Islam than Christianity
And many more.

>>135277903
>not understanding prostration

>>135275074
Because I watched someone I loved die a slow death from cancer after a hard life. No god worthy of worship could craft a world where that was a foreseeable outcome.

>>135275074
because they keep telling me to turn the other cheek like a good goy while I keep telling them that Jesus came to bring the sword

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Faith’s answer is not in relation to a doctrine, whether it is true or not, not in relation to a teacher, whether his doctrine is true or not, but is the answer to the question about a fact: Do you accept as fact that he actually existed? Please note that the answer is with infinite passion. In other words, in connection with a human being it is thoughtless to lay so infinitely much weight upon whether he has existed or not. Therefore, if the object of faith is a human being, the whole thing is a prank by a foolish person who has not even grasped the esthetic and the intellectual. The object of faith is therefore the god’s actuality in the sense of existence. But to exist signifies first and foremost to be a particular individual, and this is why thinking must disregard existence, because the particular cannot be thought, but only the universal. The object of faith, then, is the actuality of the god in existence, that is, as a particular individual, that is that the god has existed as an individual human being. Christianity is not a doctrine about the unity of the divine and the human, about subject-object, not to mention the rest of the logical paraphrases of Christianity. In other words, if Christianity were a doctrine, then the relation to it would not be one of faith, since there is only an intellectual relation to a doctrine. Christianity, therefore, is not a doctrine but the fact that the god has existed. Faith, then, is not a lesson for slow learners in the sphere of intellectuality, an asylum for dullards. But faith is a sphere of its own, and the immediate identifying mark of every misunderstanding of Christianity is that it changes it into a doctrine and draws it into the range of intellectuality.

>>135276508
U r lucky in this respect, some places have only this and Jehovas.

>>135275074
Because it's for delusional people.

>>135277925
nothing surprises anymore

>>135277414
all christian men are nu-male>>135277925
american churches are like the exact opposite

>>135277903
yes

it reminds us about how great allah is and that we must be his bitch

>>135277237
Pre-Christian worship all over Europe from Catalonia to Scotland was centered around the home's fireplace. The fire was the symbol of the ignis communio. Families would offer gifts to their ancestors and to their house deity.

Read The Tradition of Household Spirits by Claude Lecouteux. He explains why houses were built the way they were. You can find excellent examples all over Germany.

>>135277322
>being called a heathen by a member of a pedophile cult
That's rich. Now run along and kiss Muslim feet like your pope says.

>>135278106
pseudophilosophical gibberish, the church and the way of life it promotes is, or rather was ok - it's a system to hold society in place. It was working for quite some time, but now? In the information age it lost it's edge.

>>135276881
No, I believe in centropy.
Just as all our different body cells and organs must work together to make functional the whole, so too does the universe.

>>135278554
Not my Pope anymore, I left.

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>>135277907
^
literally this

>>135278620
>you're a heathen
>according to an organization that I left
alright

>>135275074


CHURCH IS GYNOFASCIST, ANTI-MALE bullshit aand lives off of parasitism ( = female )

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>>135277627
exactly! just like u, i know how much Muhammad (piss be upon him) loved getting sodomized by all the goats he raped--all while his moon god watched approvingly. Muhammad always had a big, shit-eating grin the whole time!

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>>135277234
Thanks for taking the time to share that :)

Do you have any concerns re Sept 23rd? Also I'm thinking that we're on a flat plane inside of a pyramid (strong enough structure to hold water around a dome inside.

I think it might account for the pyramid symbology coming from (((them))) and the 33.. your thoughts? Glass ceiling... also historical sites like gyza being 'restored' (silt and evidence of flooding cleaned up)

>>135278773
When a building is burning to the ground its normal inhabitants will exit the building until the fire is put out.

>>135275074
Because religion is a weapon designed hundreds of years ago to control peasants through fear.

>>135279090
>until the fire is put out
>he thinks it's going to get better
:^)

>>135275074
>Christcuck
sage

I don't "Believe". I do "believe" in things that are most likely true, but not something totally aribtrary. Also the Christian religion is pretty much the story of a sjw and I don't like being a heart bleeding liberal type.

>>135279198
>Update
If it does not get better in my lifetime so be it. I can wait outside forever.

>>135278602

>pseudophilosophical gibberish
>kierkegaard

You can still go to church, kierkegaard simply was dumbfounded that many Christians that attended church didn't seem to give an onion about what it meant internally

>>135279364
Good Goy Jesus was a hippy.

>>135279001
I have looked at revelations and the constellations and I do believe that the time is near.
Not that it is the end of the world, but the beginning of disclosure of the truth and the finalization of our genetic upgrades we have been receiving.
Things will be seen that were previously unseen, and we will all be given the chance to be brothers for a few years before the true end of life as we know it and we ascend with the return of the dove.

>>135275840
>ead your Bible if you want religious truth, believing others without scrutinising what they're saying leads to our current (((Western world)))

So, do you skip the Old Testament? You know who wrote that, right?

>>135275074
Give me one good reason why you haven't dropped religion yet in the information age.

>>135275322
>God ain't real.

This. Only the delusional believe in mystery sky man.

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>>135275074
Because churches are depressing

>>135277907
But Christianity is not supposed to be moralization. It's a religion, not an ethical theory.

>>135279001
As for the shape of the earth, I personally believe it is spherical, since I have seen Jupiter, Saturn and the moon with my own eyes through a telescope and they are spherical.
I am certainly open to being proven wrong because the earth is definitely special, but those are my thoughts.

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>>135279676
We certainly are in a time of dramatic change, I'm just not sure what I can trust beyond the scripture. From what I can tell, we're currently run by people who believe/practice kabbalah

>For the unaware, kabbalah is basically 'the secret' - using intention and numerology to manifest events into happening. This is what soros means by"I think I'm a god!" He believes that his intent has willed his version of reality into being.

>(very basic interruption cos its a hard subject to research, much lies and deception)

I feel like the powers that shouldn't be are trying to crack the dome again, and or one world gubberment lead by the anti Christ.

>Kabbalah says we must all unite as one to ascend in my understandings of it

I'm being all over the place cos so much to discuss, your thoughts on any of this would be appreciated.

>>135275074
Because no church is biblical.
1 Corinthians 14:
>26 What then shall we say, brothers and sisters? When you come together, each of you has a hymn, or a word of instruction, a revelation, a tongue or an interpretation. Everything must be done so that the church may be built up. 27 If anyone speaks in a tongue, two—or at the most three—should speak, one at a time, and someone must interpret. 28 If there is no interpreter, the speaker should keep quiet in the church and speak to himself and to God. 29 Two or three prophets should speak, and the others should weigh carefully what is said. 30 And if a revelation comes to someone who is sitting down, the first speaker should stop. 31 For you can all prophesy in turn so that everyone may be instructed and encouraged. 32 The spirits of prophets are subject to the control of prophets. 33 For God is not a God of disorder but of peace—as in all the congregations of the Lord’s people.

Does that sound like any church you've ever been to?

>>135275074
I don't believe there is sufficient evidence to support the claim of any deity, much less the specific deity you inexplicably worship.

>>135275074
Catholic mass is boring and G*d isn't real.

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>>135279800
Yeah, but I'm coming from this perspective;

>No one can trace lineage to the tribes of Israel due to sheer numbers of generations post biblical events. Ashkenazi Jews are actually from current day Georgia, declared themselves Jews (gods people) and basically it can't be true that they're jews in the Moses and all that sense.

Who knows how edited it's all been, all I can satisfy myself with is to follow Jesus's example (non violence, be kind, help people etc) and the other good stuff like the 10 commandments. I'm not into the negative stuff and I don't think God would have any bad intentions for us.

I went way down the rabbit hole as an atheist and came out believing. I'm still confused about it to be honest, but in this time of undeniable evil I'll be an edge lord and rebel against it.

Pic related is a good documentary

>>135280172

By now you have easily seen that in his life the ethical individual goes through stages we previously set forth as separate stages. He is going to develop in his life the personal, the civic, the religious virtues, and his life advances through his continually translating himself from one stage to another. As soon as a person thinks that one of these stages is adequate and that he dares to concentrate on it one-sidedly, he has not chosen himself ethically but has failed to see the significance of either isolation or continuity and above all has not grasped that the truth lies in the identity of the two. The person who has ethically chosen and found himself possess himself defined in his entire concretion. He then possesses himself as an individual who has these capacities, these passions, these inclinations, these habits, who is subject to these external influences, who is influenced in one direction thus and in another thus. Here he then possesses himself as a task in such a way that it is chiefly to order, shape, temper, inflame, control-in short, to produce an evenness in the soul, a harmony, which is the fruit of the personal virtues. - Kierkegaard

>>135281184
AN AMAZING DOCUMENTARY I HAVE SEEN IT MYSELF! I LOVE STEVEN L ANDERSON!

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>>135280494
fucking flattards. The whole flat earth scum is a (((CIA))) psy-op to discredit alt righters and nationalists and alas many are dumb enough to fall for it, esspcecially christcucks and bibletards.

>>135280494
I have read the translated version of the Kabbalah and found that it actually aligns very well with what I have researched for years now.
This is not to say that the original is not different.
You have to realize that good and evil are perceptions created by linear time in order for us to be able to learn lessons down here.
Once we reunite with the source we are all one and those are just different aspects of ourself that we wanted to experience, as all life is about experiencing for the creator.
That being said, I believe the "evil" people are aspects that we will choose to remove from ourself after Ascension, much like you try to remove the negative aspects of yourself now to be a better person on earth.
I believe they will suffer because this is the "good" and "light" universe that they have infiltrated, but they will go back to their "evil" universe and continue their experience there.
The stone at Mecca is a piece of the anti-universe that they come from, which is why they worship it because it is the only piece of home they have here.

>>135275074
Im too old for imaginary friends.

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>>135280413
Indeed it is, globe earth in space and flat earth both raise serious questions about what we're being told. If we can afford f35 jets we can afford big and serious space missions. Ayy lmaos etc, what's really going on..?

If the earth is flat, yikes.. either way, the only evidence we have is that lying is occurring, but who and why?

>>135275074
Room full of single mothers, dads that stare you down when their daughters get wet for you, and yelling. I will not go.

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>>135281492
That in itself is one of those concepts that take days to intellectually digest, duality and singularity, deity experiencing itself and all..

I thought guardians of the galaxy 2 or whatever it was called explored that idea via ego (Kurt Russel) to an extent and it definitely got me thinking.

I don't think I can understand the bigger picture just yet, it's why I'm returning to basics and sticking to human decency and kindness as my spiritual goals. Whatever is happening is definitely way over my head, do you recommend further investigation into kabbalah/tracking down reliable copies?

>>135281342
Who knows, I like you suspicions though. I believe a gold standard/non fiat currency is what will bring your values back to the mainstream. If you follow incentives, in my experience it goes back to unsound money being the big enabler of socialism and globalism. Otherwise those ideologies would fail due to bankruptcy.

Jumping ahead here, but probably why the Bible says don't get into debt.

>>135277011
Finland is not Scandinavian geographically or even culturally at this point.

>>135282616
I was blown away when I saw that movie, was NOT expecting that kind of disclosure.
Sad they made him evil but I guess they can't be too forthcoming lol.
Still, very very happy they were able to bring the concept to so many people because all it takes is a spark to start a fire.
I recommend just looking up a PDF version, unless you want to spend years learning Hebrew.

>>135282616
I highly recommend reading "An Ascension Handbook" by Tony Stubbs.
It's the simplest and easiest to pick up version of what I understand to be true.
For the quantum physics version of the Bible, read "The Book of Knowledge: The Keys of Enoch" by J.J. Hurtak.
It's like $50 but damn it's worth it.

>>135276418
Mormon kids get warped too the fuck are you on about? Mormons are pretty much the Muslims of Christianity.

Good people however wrong faith and gospel.

>>135276765
I wish we could do that the fuck? Why is life lame?

>>135282958
I'll definitely investigate it more, another angle re ego is the; 'out of true evil comes true good'

Much like love turning to hate and back to love, to me it seems to be two poles of the same emotion. When disinterest sets in the spell is broken, this is very Masonic reasoning (I think, I'm not an expert) and it's also big picture reasoning. Ends justify the means, it's undeniable that there's a quantifiable experience taking place, the experience of love/hate in this example.

My concern is that this is peak abstract reasoning, and I don't want to get lost in the riddle of choosing the correct pole in the duality experience.

It's that which makes me conclude that all I can do to is try and be the best person I can be. This is indeed a strange life. Thanks for the research suggestions and interesting conversation, I'm off to bed. Safe travels anon :)

>>135285051
Kodoish, Kodoish, Kodoish Adonai Tsebayoth!

It's fake bs to control you. The real red pill is ridding yourself of fairy tales and being a free man.

>>135275074
its boring

>>135275074
I've heard the same sermons dozens of times from different priest. A sermon written a day before the mass doesn't really make for a good listening material.

>>135275074
Churches these days are full of cucks.

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>>135275074
I go to Latin Mass every Sunday

Deus Vult

I have struggled with scruples and religion-connected OCD for years now. I have been taking OCD medication and going to church could worsen my mental state.

CENK/SHAPIRO this sunday. I WANNA MAKE IT, BUT I MIGHT NOT.

>>135275074
organised religion is a sham