Stoicism as an alternative to christlarping?

>>135273064
>Sparta a role model
>Fuck with boys
>breed your wife with a slave to make more cannon fodder
>German flag
You will never learn, do you ?

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>>135273064
>shitposting again Christianity
>flag checks out

Day of the spray when?

>>135273064
The main problem with Stoicism is that it's a dumb idea that people won't join willingly.

>>135273457
How is it dumb?
>people won't join willingly
Do you know what stoicism is?

>Stoicism as an alternative

you already failed, fucking moron

>>135273064

Stoicism is a cuck idea. Its learning how to eat shit and like it.

>>135274207
>Stoicism is a cuck idea. Its learning how to eat shit and like it.
More like, when you have to eat shit, you don't whine about it.

>>135273293
>Seneca is Sparta

Christ almighty I bet you haven't even read a page of him.

>>135273064
Stoicism is Western Zen.

>>135273064
I love stoicism. One of my first audiobook jobs is on Stoicism. My best seller too.

>>135274207
Not at all, Stocism teaches you not to be a winy bitch and actual do what you can, and not cry about what you cant.

>>135273293
>Russian education

>>135273064
> Stoicism as an alternative to christlarping?
I was on the same meme train OP. It will piss off (((Donna Zuckerberg))) too.

> If you want a REAL spiritual (not in the mystic sense) revival instead of outdated larping this is the way.
Only if you get a critical mass of people into it. That is what multiculturalism and post-modernism is about preventing though. Divide and rule.

What about justice and mercy? What will form the basis of that without the God of Christ?

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>>135273064
/pol/ is a Stoic board

Tbf Stoicism should really be brought back as a societal philosophy

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>>135273064

>>135281803
I approve this message.

: You're born, you take shit. You get out in the world, you take more shit. You climb a little higher, you take less shit. Till one day you're up in the rarefied atmosphere and you've forgotten what shit even looks like.

>>135281739
Humans "invented" the moral code as they invented "religion".


Even christfags admit that religion was invented as they have no other way of explaining the countless (undoubtedly false) Gods that preceded Christianity. If those God(s) were false then they were made by man and all the laws stemming from them are in turn also created by man, thus the moral code of man was created by...man.

stoicism<epicureanism

>>135276573
>Instead of crying while tyrone bangs his wife, Michael is just accepting it.

>>135273064
I saw an episode of Law and Order SVU where some Cuban guy was teaching kids stoicism so he could convince them to steal bikes and kill themselves. Seemed pretty gay

>>135273293
Based Ivan.

>>135282756
Dem Schweinen ist alles Schwein
In your case:
To the cuck everything is cuck

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Recommended reading: Meditations by Marcus Aurelius

http://classics.mit.edu/Antoninus/meditations.html

>>135282756
>Says the cuck
Who's cuck posting constantly about Christ, Ahmed? Yeah, (((you))).

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Diogenes was the only good philosopher to come out of Ancient Greece. Stoics were too cucked to go full barrel mode.

>>135273064
>he stoics considered Sparta a role model

Someone whip out that redpill about spartan women pls

>>135283546
modern liberal directly come from diogene
I really don't understand why he is so acclaimed on /pol/ even if it's literally the antithesis of national socialism

>>135273064
Nah. Radical Calvinism is much better and easier for society to revert to.

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>>135283546
Diogenes was the founder of cosmopolitanism, the concept of being a citizen of the cosmos/universe.
'Of Diogenes it is said: "Asked where he came from, he answered: 'I am a citizen of the world (kosmopolitês)'"'

>>135283850
I think Diogenes is great, /pol/ loves him because he was the original troll.
Diogenes has been accused of which included masturbating in public, urinating on people who insulted him, and taking a dump in a theatre. He is a historical tendies story.

/pol/ is a cynic board.

>>135282428
>countless (undoubtedly false) Gods that preceded Christianity.

Christians worship Yahweh, the same god as the Jews who was the father god El Yahweh of the Canaanite pantheon. Jews will accept that there are other gods, even in their own pantheon, but have been commanded to only worship El.

>>135285657
Who gives a shit about Jews? They were preceded by other religions.


The only way you can put Jews first is by using circular logic and pointing to the Torah/Bible/whatever.

>>135281803
This
Reminder to read Senecca, Marcus Aurelius and Epictetus before posting on /pol/

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>>135273064
We used to call that "being a man," but people support Christianity so strongly in the west because:
A - Muslim psychos are rampaging all over the world executing everyone that doesn't believe like they do
and B - despite it's bullshit and flaws, modern Christian culture does teach a lot of good stuff and is inseparably linked with Western culture and values such as hard work, honesty, chastity, etc..

I'm not a Christian and think people should be smarter than that and be great without religious bullshit, but I've come to a point where I realize a lot of people will always need religion for what it gives them and Christianity is one of the better ones. I'd fight to defend it from the fucking muzzie hordes any day.

Benjamin Franklin went through a similar phase and came to the same conclusion. Check out his thirteen virtues.
http://www.thirteenvirtues.com/

Matter of fact, just study the concept of virtue at all, as far back as the ancient Greeks, and you'll see that men have been talking about this and trying to develop virtue systems for millennia.

>>135282210
Damn thank you for that awesome image, UNigger.

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>>135273064
First of all Platonism is the truth.
Second of all philosophies can't replace religion because most people are stupid and don't even want to think and philosophy gives something only to those who think; for the unthinking man philosophy is folly.

>>135273575
how do you decide what to be stoic about?

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>>135288036
This.

Religion exists to lead the unthinking man through a diety, as he needs a higher reason than just virtue for virtues sake. Therefore any attempt to secularise people will either a) lead people into degeneracy or b) lead people to create a new believe out of necessity (feminism, liberalism, "spirituality", pagan larping, ...).

The most logical reason therefore ist to accept human nature and to use the religion still at hand which is also the core of western civilization. It's our best weapon against everything we despise.

>>135284467
>easier
I don't mind calvinists they're basically christian stoics but let's be real

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>>135273064
>>135279579

Fuck those philosophy and all reformed religion
Fuck all moral bullshit both west and east

it's all lies . it's just another name of how to gain more resource in game of survival

Human born from evil and live by do evil things everyday. Feeling and emotion is the reward from evolution that made us human
>stoic
Yeah cut down your own emotion to make you look cool and ignore suffering of other lives
finally you will have great society that lack of emotion and give birth to A.I. to kill all humankind . good job

A dog can either run with the cart, or be dragged.

The Gospel of John pretty much is Stoicism

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>>135289163
Religion is dead. And you may encourage people to find virtues in religion but preaching virtues from the religious person as a non/cultural christian is counterproductive because it antagonizes nonchristians and has a lot of baggage. If you give people the choice between christianity and nihilism and they find out christianity is wrong what else can you expect them to become than nihilists?
Stoicism offers virtue beyond dogma. Basically what numale fathers failed to teach.
Let the christians make christianity great again.
We lead by example.

>>135289617
Why would you shit on something you clearly don't understand with arguments you could easily checkproof before posting?

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>>135290224
because your topic is just small fish compare to my view

>>135289617
CHING CHONG GOOK NIP EAT DOWG OOOOOOOOHHHHH PHIROSOPHY NOOWE BOWL!!

>>135288036
Platonism is for fucking idiots, I mean, a fucking realm of immaterial forms, used to explain the fact that things have common properties, its for children, people who have stopped thinking and resorted to magic to fill the void left by their deficient minds.

>>135289163
A stupid theory which fails to ask why man in large numbers are generally unthinking to begin with, this is not human nature, this is the psychological result of the false systems of the past, including Christianity, one of the most degenerative systems of thought and morality that out wretched species has ever produced.

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>>135290680
thank for prove my idea about human

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>>135273064
>>135288036
>>135289163
>>135290100
Nietzsche wrote a whole book on exactly this topic.

>>135285059
Gay

>>135290100
>religion is dead
Cultural Marxism is a religion though.

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>>135290739
>Christianity, one of the most degenerative systems of thought and morality that out wretched species has ever produced.
>peak of human accomplisment
>peak degeneracy
Pic related.

>>135286743
It really wasn't that awesome.

>>135290835
OOOOOOH MUFUGGA YOU STAY OUW MY STORE I REMEMBER YOU FACE! ROUND EYE GAIKIN GOOK NIP CHOPSTICK

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>>135291277
Christianity makes people stupid, makes people servile, docile, needy and desperate, as a reaction to life it was from the outset nothing but disgust and subversion, dressed up in the vain hope of an undeserving immortality offered by a 'loving' dictator. It is the very definition of degenerate, we can do better.

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>>135282756
>putting any sort of hope on a woman's honor and expecting anything other than getting cheated on

If you throw a hissy fit because you didn't expect your wife to cheat on you, you're either blissfully ignorant or a fucking moron.

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>>135288657
Choose a specific branch, a school of thought, of stoicism. Or start your own branch.

>>135283546

>full barrel mode

>>135289617
>unironically thinks stoicism is supressing emotions

Lost all credibility right here, desu.

>>135285059

He sounds like a homeless schizophrenic who was romanticized by history

>>135293935
>reddit spacing
He absolutely was not schizophrenic. Maybe had some other mental disorder.
But he can be characterized, quite simply, as not giving a fuck.

>>135273064
>Be an oblivious faggot.

How is that working out for you, Claus?

>>135293093
You dont understand the word of God. If our God is a symbol of time all dead men are marked by its dating system. Do you recall your grandparents death as a roman date or a muslim month and day or jewish dating system. In this sense immortality is how your name gets remembered after death. How do we remember past kings of England for example. What moral code do we judge them. Surely not by caliphate or pagan standards but by the barset by christ. Moral decay comes from secularism. You give them an inch of christian symbolism and they corrupt they whole book. Take casting lots for Jesus. Recognize that the 13th constellation was divided up. The Snake Charmer. Furthermore recognize the Egyptian metaphor adopted into Christ. Sirius and the Lions Gate. It is true that most christians are sheep but that does not mean christians lack the mental strength to kill in the name of God. We merely have a comfortable life. Take that away and we will purge the land of all who refuse to confess Jesus as Lord. You do not need to understand every symbol in the Bible code. Some meant for scholars alone. Most early followers couldn't even read. There is no denying that Christianity built this version of the world. Christianity will destroy it as well. The gregorian dating structure proves how this illusion of time works. Enjoy Sept 23. You probably wont. But Christians will rejoice and secular/pagan/atheist/etc... Will weep over the annihilation of their sycophant dreams.

Stoicism is a cuck culture.

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>>135282248
I too liked the layer cake

>>135295255
The Christian moral code is revisited every 20 years and tailored to its time. That's without even going into different denominations. As subjective as anything else that's human.


It's also slightly entertaining as, yes, we do use Christian dating system (based on the Julian calender and months named after Roman emperors) all the while you're using the roman writing system and arab(indian) numerals to keep count of them all the while you call the day in the middle of the week after a pagan god and celebrate Christmas on ex-pagan holidays.

>>135295255
aren't you just the perfect example of Christian degeneracy at work.

>>135293486
When you get dumped so hard you turn gay

>>135288657
simple. about the things not in your control.

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Nothing happens to any creature beyond its own natural endurance. Another has the same experience as you: either through failure to recognize what has happened to him, or in a display of courage, he remains calm and untroubled. Strange, then, that ignorance and pretension should be stronger than wisdom.

How to understand your own good: the lover of glory takes it to be the reactions of others, the seeker of pleasure their own passive experience, the intelligent man sees it as his own action.

Your principles are living things. How else could they be deadened except by the extinction of the corresponding mental images? The constant rekindling of these is up to you.

Don’t be ashamed of help, it is your task to achieve your assigned duty like a soldier in a scaling party, what then if you cannot climb by yourself but it is made possible by another’s help?

>>135297338

> being cucked
> blm and all kind of other retards makes you "fuckn white man"
> can`t decide for himself

Went stoic about all this.

>>135273064
it is my informed opinion you are a fool.

>>135294150
He was a witty vagrant. No doubt the myth is far greater than the man. If the Alexander story is true that is enough for him to have earned his place in history.

>>135273064

that .gif is probably the most fedora moment in post-Titanic cinematography

>>135273064
>because every 3 yo can take this religion apart on every level

lel atheistfags trying to decipher religion on an empirical, factual level.

Christianity is purely a moral and cultural institution and a vehicle for spreading nationalism and enforcing group/community cohesion. It insulates against radicalism, insulates against Islam, insulates against Jewry, and as far as modern geo-political implications go - It promotes Western culture.

Christianity has NEVER been about whether God factually exists or not - no one knows and no one gives a shit. There is so much else more at stake, culturally.

>>135273064

>Sparta
>a role model

Eating garbage and living like a serf just so you could LARP as 'muh Spartan warrior' ? Sounds like the real deal family.

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>>135290739
>Platonism is for fucking idiots, I mean, a fucking realm of immaterial forms, used to explain the fact that things have common properties, its for children, people who have stopped thinking and resorted to magic to fill the void left by their deficient minds.
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Either you are too young, or you never got into philosophy at all.
You seem just like those angry-internet-atheist-kids who think religion is nothing but worship of an invisible dude somewhere, whose arbitrary commands are outdated. Please end your and everyone else's misery and go to a philosophy 101 class or something.
I don't even know where to start, so let's just go with the fact that you're a disgusting flag-hider.

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>>135273293

>breed your wife with a slave to make more cannon fodder

what is this. where is this from

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>>135273064
Daily reminder that pagans are fedoras who don't want to be associated with the hat meme.

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>>135273064
>Implying Christianity and Stoicism are mutually exclusive
>Implying Christianity isn't inherently stoic
>Implying Christianity isn't the most intricate religion with the richest intellectual history the world has ever seen

But you're right, why not just write off the likes of Aquinas, Leibniz and Einstein on the basis that you've fundamentally miaunderstood the Christian faith.

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>>135285657
But that's blatantly wrong and Judaism upholds the ultimate oneness and enigmatic nature of God. Are you referring to the hundred names? Because that's an attempt to describe that which is indescribable.

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>>135298927
>implying Jesus' teachings don't inherently contradict stoicism
>implying I didn't read the Bible
100% guarantee you threw away a majority of Jesus' words because they didn't fit your narrative.

Remember: "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."

http://biblehub.com/matthew/19-21.htm

>>135298355

He's true though, just as how quite a few mathematicians would like to pretend their field of study is platonic in nature, but practice seems to indicate those who think mathematics is constructed rather than discovered, have fewer contradictions in their respective works.

>>135298927
>Einstein
>Christian
I guess Spinoza was a Christian too, huh?

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>>135273064
Anti-fedoraism ruined any chance of that happening. It'd never take off now.

>>135276573
>doesn't know what stoicism is

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>>135273064
>bash the foundation of western civilization
>german flag

Le eternal kraut is at the subversion again. Christ is king of the universe and you will not stop him, marxist filth.

>>135299460
How is rescinding material possessions in the pursuit of a higher truth incompatible with stoicism?

>>135299487
>practice seems to indicate those who think mathematics is constructed rather than discovered, have fewer contradictions in their respective works.
constructed on what, from what?
But more seriously, nominalism destroyed western thought. If one denies an objective basis for universals everything merely becomes a power-game about who gets to define the universals. ie magic. This is structuralism and the modern materialistic cancer of our age.

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>>135299460
>Remember: "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."
This is perfectly in line with stoicism, you fucking Jew.

>>135276573
Not you.

>>135274207 you

>>135300699
that's what he just said, you dumb finn

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>>135300286
why do you value western civilization? just wondering

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tnPGJnOhDY

Nietzsche is /pol/

>>135300286
>Christianity
>foundation of Western Civilization
You know Stoicism predates Christianity right?

>>135273064
Good philosophy, dumb post.
Go back and do some light stoicism reading like Meditations or Seneca's Letters.
I mean it's better than Nihilism by fucking miles, but OP you ain't grasping it.

>>135301987

There weren't people even in Europe before Christianity.

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>>135273064
Stoicism is just making up rules to be depressed when you can be depressed just fine without it

>>135303128
Yeah, only savages. Without Christianity you are less than nothing.

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>>135303128
You're a horrible person

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>>135273064
Epicureanism ftw

>>135273064
I think you need to be pretty smart to even understand stoicism so it won't work for all of society. Maybe those at the top can practice it? also people either are stoic or they are not I don't think it can be taught. So I don't really know

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>>135303128
really makes me think

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>>135273064
Christianity already absorbed stoic ideas long ago

>In moral philosophy the Stoics have established right principles, and the poets too have expounded such, because the seed of the Word was implanted in the whole human race” (Justin Martyr Second Apology VIII, 1)

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>>135286162
All three are considered non-whites according to nu-pol.

>>135284686
and that's how you know that he had no black friends

jordan peterson has a biblical series in which he espouses the morality and life map that is laid out in the bible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-wWBGo6a2w

>>135273064
Smiling if for girls.

>>135273064
>Christianity is indefensible
You wanna debate on its' ethics you kike?

>>135305373
Yeah but christianity is dead. Stoicism isn't a faith in that sense.

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>>135273064
>because every 3 yo can take this religion apart on every level
Right, a 3 year old can read the bible, study the historical context of the passages, understand that each book was written by a different person in a different time frame, and decipher meaning and lessons from the text.
Nigger most people on /pol/ are to stupid to analyze hamlet in a historical context and take any meaning from it. This is why pagan LARPers are pagan LARPers, they are literally to stupid and lazy to look at the bible through anything but modern lenses, so they cut tiny pieces of long passages out and take them out of context TWICE, once out of context from the rest of the passage, and then again out of historical context. But no, christian are the dumb ones because they don't believe in zues or thor.

>>135273293
Have you even read the bible faggot?
>visitor comes
>offer to let him fuck either your wife or your daughter, because you're a good host
>your neighbors don't like the visitor and a mob assembles outside your house
>go out and appease them, telling them that you can't let them harm the visitor since he's your guest, but you can offer your wife and daughter for them to rape
>they rape your family members so many times that they die
>morning comes and the visitor leaves
>you cut your wife's corpse in 5 parts and send each to some old fuck from a sand tribe that lives 3 weeks away, just to show them how savage your neighbors are

>>135306920
I know this is OT and therefore certainly out of context but source?

>>135307163
I think it's the story of Lot

fred durst did nothing wrong.

christianity is best ity

>>135307446
christianity is good but unfortunately it has been jewified. it needs to be hellenized back

>>135307565
>What is Orthodox Christianity

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>>135273064
>there will never be le ebin christcuck revival
how do you know , can you read the future?
Our Orthodox Elders, who can see, it told us there will be a massive Christian revival,much of it Orthodox .

You who the hell are you ? Go neck yourself.

>>135307718
I meant in the west specifically. and btw who is the Eastern Pontifex now ? is there one ?

>>135306920
>the story of Lot
Lot offered his daughters to the mob to insult their characters and call them scum, because they asked for the two guests in his house so they might "know" them. They got even more mad because he offered his daughters, who had "known no man." And they were NOT raped to death, the two guests were angels in discuise who transported them away from there to save them. This exactly what I mean when I say you fucking LARPers are to stupid to understand what the fuck the bible is saying.

>>135307998
yes but his role is ceremonial, hes not a mafia boss like the pope

>>135283000

Yeah old Marcus was real wise. Trained his son well (HUGE SARCASTIC EYE ROLL). Such wisdom.

>>135307163
>out of context
In what context is this acceptable stupid faggot?
>22 While they were enjoying themselves, some of the wicked men of the city surrounded the house. Pounding on the door, they shouted to the old man who owned the house, “Bring out the man who came to your house so we can have sex with him.”
>23 The owner of the house went outside and said to them, “No, my friends, don’t be so vile. Since this man is my guest, don’t do this outrageous thing. 24 Look, here is my virgin daughter, and his concubine. I will bring them out to you now, and you can use them and do to them whatever you wish. But as for this man, don’t do such an outrageous thing.”
Explain to me what context makes a mob wanting to have sex with and unknown male acceptable. Even the faggots who translated the first versions tried to censor this part by changing it so that the mob would just want to greet him, but their kike lie didn't stick because not all translators were faggot.
>>135308131
Who is talking about Lot? The book of Genesis didn't even happen, it's just a bunch of fairytales that were ripped from Mesopotamian civilizations and then existed as oral tradition before being written down centuries after that. What I posted is from Judges 19 and has nothing to do with Lot and his thots; it is an historical written account of things that even if didn't happen, reflect the values and culture of that time and place. Defend this christfags.

>>135308186
well then, who has the power? or is it a de-centralized system ?

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STOP BEING A CuCK

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>>135306064
>Yeah but christianity is dead.
Why do you keep saying this? 85% of Europe is Christian. Eastern Europe is expected to become increasingly religious. China is becoming increasingly Christianized. Christianity has lost influence in the west and it's gap has been filled with degeneracy and cultural decline, but it's far from "dead". Christianity has always been tied to the right wing.

You can't just take a trend of irreligion continuing over a few generations and say it's dead, Christianity and religiousness in general has wavered and strengthened many times throughout history.

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>Stoicism
>not being an Epicurean hedonist

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>>135309129
>epicurean

Enjoy your lack of virtue phaggot

>>135308918
its decentralized yes, all must agree to take big decisions

>>135309241
>lack of virtue
Oh no

>>135308723
>Who is talking about Lot?
you literally just told a bastardized and untrue version of the story of lot you stupid motherfucker. And you are accusing others of not having read the bible when you don't even know what story you are telling? Who is talking about the book of genesis?
>it is an historical written account of things that even if didn't happen, reflect the values and culture of that time and place. Defend this christfags.
The story you wrote was literally not what happened. It reflect nothing because what you wrote was incorrect. Stop LARPing. Read the fucking bible, study the meaning of it's passages, and stop going off of what daddy varg tells you, you fucking imbecile.

>>135273064
>(not in the mystic sense)
you'll have to address this before it catches on.
people do have such experiences. calling them all mentally ill isnt the answer. otherwise sounds good.

>>135309067
>85% of Europe is Christian
Oh come on you don't believe that. Of that 85% 83 are nominalists.

I'm not antichristian. I made that clear in one post. But as a non christian pretending to be christian to make arguments to non christians is less effective than making non christian arguments

>You can't just take a trend of irreligion continuing over a few generations and say it's dead
Yeah but the story is disproven. The last people who believe in it are people who want to.
Hey be my guest. If there's a big christian revival all the better but I don't think you think that

>>135308723
I don't think even Judaism supported this. ''Wicked men'' or ''sons of lawlessness'' in the Hebrew text is ''sons of Belial'', which means ''worthless men''
(see 2 Corinthians 6:15 and Romans 1:26-27). This gruesom account is similar to that of Lot and the men of Sodom (Genesis 19:1-4). What is your point here?

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>>135273064
OP has graduated to drinking more than 70 gallons of Jew cum per day.

>>135308918
If you're talking about the Pentarchy, then yes. Patriarchs control their respective Patriarchates.

>>135310163
>I'm not antichristian.
After everything Merkel has done to your country you'd think there'd be some Germans who would've come to their senses about the root of the problem.

>>135309952
Who did I call mentally ill? With the not in the mystic sense I tried to contextualise the word spiritual because spiritual would have been fitting but I already used it for "virtuous" "above us"
Sorry I'm tired and at a lack for words

>>135310406
Merkel is christian so there you go.
Why are christlarpers so sensitive?
Half your posts are "christianity is good even though we know it's wrong" the other half is "how dare you say christianity is good even though you know it's wrong"

>>135308723
>>22 While they were enjoying themselves, some of the wicked men of the city surrounded the house. Pounding on the door, they shouted to the old man who owned the house, “Bring out the man who came to your house so we can have sex with him.”
>have sex with him
No, they said they wanted to "know" them, implying they were doing to beat or stone them to death.
>>23 The owner of the house went outside and said to them, “No, my friends, don’t be so vile. Since this man is my guest, don’t do this outrageous thing. 24 Look, here is my virgin daughter, and his concubine. I will bring them out to you now, and you can use them and do to them whatever you wish. But as for this man, don’t do such an outrageous thing.”
He offered them his daughters, who had "known no man" as an insult to their character, which made them very angry as you wern't supposed to rape women who were virgins awaiting marrage or you were considered scum. His daughter was not raped, his wife was not raped, the guests were angels and transported him out of the house to safety and told them to run and never look back. His wife looked back, and was turned to a pillar of salt for disobeying.

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>>135273064
The problem with Stoicism is that it already promotes a nihilistic attitude, disregarding everything worldly and as with neo-platonism it was a predecessor for Christianity. Stoicism already is the outcome of a culture in decline.

A philosophy affirming life, honour, strength, heroism, loyalty and your people would suit ourselves and our cause. Sadly stoicism is none of that. Quite frankly no transcendent religion or philosophy fits it.

The only religion I know of that has a sense of tribalism is Judaism. Maybe Shintoism or Confucianism, too. But all of them won't fit us either.

>>135291978

I find this libtard very cute, would love to redpill her to an 50's wife style.

>>135273064
christlarping is the pinnacle of stoicism

>>135310609
>I'm not antichristian.
Mate, my post was saying that you SHOULD be.

>>135309906
>you literally just told a bastardized and untrue version of the story of lot
No. This is a different story from a different book, Judges 19, and has nothing to do with Lot. I understand that when you're stupid enough to believe fairy tales from 3000 years ago and think that they're deep and a great moral guide, you probably are dumb enough to believe that all similar stories must be the same story as well, but this is not the case and you would know it if you had read the bible.
>Who is talking about the book of genesis?
Lot's story is in the genesis imbecile.
>The story you wrote was literally not what happened.
Probably not, all the bible is bullshit anyway, but even if it's not what happened, it's how they wrote it.
>It reflect nothing because what you wrote was incorrect.
See for yourself then:
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Judges+19&version=NIV
Please explain us what is the deep meaning of this deep passage.
>>135310205
>out of context
>fug I can't justify the story
>better ask what's your point
Kill yourself and stop existing already christcuck.

>>135310882
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mos_maiorum

>>135310882
>The problem with Stoicism is that it already promotes a nihilistic attitude
No.

>A philosophy affirming life, honour, strength, heroism, loyalty and your people would suit ourselves and our cause. Sadly stoicism is none of that. Quite frankly no transcendent religion or philosophy fits it.
Fits it perfectly

>>135311088
Oh sorry then. There are good christians. The issue I have with christlarping is that once former christians turn atheist they have nowhere to go but nihilism. Plus to use christianity to promote virtues on a large scale you'd need large scale (devout) christian revival which I don't think anyone here genuinely expects.

>>135310730
Wrong again retard. As I already said (and linked), the first translations tried to censor the actual meaning of the story, which is that they wanted to fuck him in the ass.
>he only uses a 400 years old translation, because it's the only translation of the bible PC enough to not turn you into an atheist when reading it
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>135311255
But what point did you even make? That story speaks of worthless men as I've pointed out.

>>135311463
>There are good christians.
The only good ones aren't proper ones.

>>135311565
You surely mean the worthless men who let their women be raped, and also the ones who defend it 3000 years later on a chinese forum claiming that story is out of context.

>>135290739
Ontology is the very core of the human endeavor everyone of us is facing in this realm of perception we share.

Don't trust him, anons. Only trust the word of God.

>>135310429
the "spiritual" experience of god can be turned on and off in the brain using stimulation. stoicism must account for those types of experiences without resorting to

>its mental illness
>its just mystical woo
>ignoring it

thats all im sayin jack

>>135311783
What are you, retarded? The Bible clearly says those men were worthless, and you're trying to use it as a anti-Christian argument.

>>135311688
How so?

>>135311255
>gives me a link to the new international version
I'll give you that I had the wrong story, but dont insult me with this trash
>>King James version
>Now as they were making their hearts merry, behold, the men of the city, certain sons of Belial, beset the house round about and beat at the door, and spoke to the master of the house, the old man, saying, “Bring forth the man who came into thine house, that we may know him.”
this is not "we want to have sex with him" as the heretic nu-bible suggests, this is, again, them wanting to beat him to death.
He offers him his daughter because protecting a guest in your house was considered the highest duty and honor, and women were considered worthless and replaceable(because they are).

>>135311485
>he only uses a 400 years old translation, because it's the only translation of the bible PC enough to not turn you into an atheist when reading it
>I look at a text that is many hundreds of years old in a modern context and I'm amazed when shit doesn't make sense
mhm

>>135312478
>>135312390
>nazi flag
>christlarper
Every single time. You know that their respective values don't match so what would you choose if pressed?
Abandon christianity and get called out a hypocrite or compromise on your natsoc goals?

>>135296235
>The Christian moral code is revisited every 20 years and tailored to its time. That's without even going into different denominations. As subjective as anything else that's human.
What is this? Babby's first subjectivism?


>It's also slightly entertaining as, yes, we do use Christian dating system (based on the Julian calender and months named after Roman emperors) all the while you're using the roman writing system and arab(indian) numerals to keep count of them all the while you call the day in the middle of the week after a pagan god and celebrate Christmas on ex-pagan holidays.
Are you trying to sound well-read, kid? Writing system, numerals and holidays is basically pragmatism. People settled with the system most useful for them.

>>135312518
NIV sucks but KJV is even worse desu.
>>135312958
>He doesn't know who Corneileu Codreanu was

>>135313685
NOTHING is worse than the NIV
NIV is literally a heretic re-writing of the holy scripture written by satanists claiming to be Jewish.
KJV isn't the best but it's the most popular version of the bible in america so I try to pull from that rather than some obscure version written in hebrew or greek.

>>135313685
>codreanu
wouldn't a fascist flag be more suitable for your convictions then?

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>>135290100
>Religion is dead

progressivism is doing great in your country

> Christianity is dead

true for Germany

>lets teach stoicism

lel youll have to take the country over from progressives which will never happen because they number tens of millions and run everything from the government to your kids preschool. The second largest denomination is Islam, numbering in millions.

How many stoics do you have? You'll need hundreds of thousands just to replace progressives in govt jobs and teach it to the people. otherwise you may be a stoic chancellor but everything will be as before outside of your office.

>>135314798
Ehhh that's the Italian Fascist flag. Tbh Codreanu also called himself a Christian National Socialist and thought of the Swastika as a symbol of anti-semitism that could be used anywhere.

>>135313685
So the first then?

>>135315068
The axe and stick bundle comes from ancient Rome, actually.

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>>135289163
It certainly cannot and will not be Cucktianity. Ever. https://www.rt.com/news/334590-pope-francis-arab-invasion/

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>>135291277
Ugh. Cucktianity defense force. Worse than JIDF.

>>135315544
>current pope meme
Mehmet, no serious catholic or actually believing christian takes him seriously. He's a puppet used by the left to use the still great majority of christians to move the pendulum bevore it switches again to traditionalism. And the lefties failed. People left the church, but didn't move to atheism. They just aren't "institutionalized" anymore. Christianity and it'S values are still going strong.

Also:
>evangelicals
What's next, make an argument with the Westboro Baptist Church?

>>135315482
>The axe and stick bundle
It's called a fasces.

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>>135315482
I know that, which is why the Italians use it.

>>135315544
pic related

>>135315686
h e r e t i c s

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>>135300286
>a Jewish religion from the Levant that didn't invent a single original virtue or idea, except for self-destructive nihilism is somehow the foundation of western civilization
Never chane CIDF

Where's the Panama guy when you need him?

>>135315068

k, thx. didn't know that.

>>135311463
I have read Marcus Aurelius, Seneca and Epictetus and there's nothing in the teachings that affirm your wishful thinking.

>>135316176
I never understood the significance behind the symbol, just that it was a symbol to represent a magistrate's power Care to enlighten me?

>>135316446
>Hahaha, if I just use a strawman I'll surely convince them!

>>135316671
Power of enforcement iirc

>>135290011
Ecclesiastes too

>>135316660
but dont you know man stoicism is like Sparta OP wrote it xd

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>>135315966
Muh no true Scotsman.
>Merkel's party is the Christian Democratic Union
>Merkel herself is the religious daughter of a protestant pastor
>Our president at the time Joachim Gauck was a protestant pastor
>most of the anti-racist and open border NGOs are Christian dominated
>both churches condemn AfD voters to the point of threatening excommunication
>Deutscher Kirchentag is basically SJW the religious happening
>having to point this out again and again, because you are ignorant of the own religion you shill for
I am so fucking bored by you CIDF.

>>135273293
Says the subhuman russian, daily reminder that russian AREN'T WHITE AND NEVER WILL BE, you bastardized whores.

>>135316748
well yeh that's what it represents, but I mean why the bundle of sticks with an axe attached? It seems like something a tinder gatherer would carry around.

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>>135316696
>Pointing out facts is a "strawman"
>larping as a Christcuck with a NatSoc flag
you are all so tiresome CIDF

If you can believe, believe.

If you can't, go ahead and be a stoic. It's the second best thing.

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>>135316397
>I know that, which is why the Italians use it.
A lot of people use. The US government uses it. The French use it.

In Italian, "leagues" at the turn of the century were called fasci (sg. fascio). Referring to a specific type of political association. Mussolini lead one, but there were others too. First he created the Fasci of Combat (Fasci Italiani di Combattimento AKA Fasci d'Azione Rivoluzionaria), then the National Fascist Party (Partito Nazionale Fascista).
>>135316671
>>135316748
It's an Etruscan symbol originally, so the true full meaning is a bit obfuscated. The basic idea, throughout all of history, is unity through strength. One rod is easily broken, tie them together and that's not the case. In the Republic it came to symbolize the power (imperium) and authority of magistrates. Lictors would carry them when guarding magistrates. Allegedly, they could carry out punishment by smacking people with the rods.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lictor
Here's a pretty decent recreation (the first couple of seconds only):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lElKsmKFNzk

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>>135317048
>>Merkel herself
is the ''religious'' daughter of a ((((((((protestant))))))pastor
>>Protestant pastor (again)
>>PROTESTANT
>>PASTORS
>>REEEEEEEEEE

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>>135312518
>my censored version made PC for 400 years ago makes me feel safer than the actual meaning of the text, therefore the good translations aren't valid
It's not a secret that everyone in the bible was a degenerate. It's not a secret that it's full of censorship and weasel wording aimed at hiding that fact. Just look at how they threw away some gospels and accepted others; it wouldn't be far fetched to think that Jesus Christ was taking it in the ass from the disciples but they decided to not include those accounts in the official cherry-picked bible that later was PC washed multiple times because it was turning people into atheists.
>pic related
>they wanted to take turns penetrating his rear just like the sword penetrates an enemy
So this means they wanted to chat with him and have cake right? Cool story.
>>135312775
>my religion doesn't make sense, it's time to throw it away
Exactly what I've been saying all along.
>>135313685
>>135314756
>muh safespace circlejerking
>whe choose to remain ignorant

>>135317048
Remember when the church turned the light off on those PEGIDA protests?

>>135317364
>One rod is easily broken, tie them together and that's not the case.
>Individually we are a weak twig, but together we form a mighty faggot!
No but honestly that's what I figured it was. I'm guessing the axe represents the strong arm of the law and/or state holding it all together.

>>135317196
>unsourced arguments are ''facts''
>Not knowing who Codreanu Cornelieu was
>>135317485
nice counter to this >>135310205, sure got me

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>>135316915
The problem is that we had something like what OP wishes for and that was Germanic Hellenism as you can find in the figures of early Wagner, somewhat Nietzsche - although he despised the Germans, like Schopenhauer. But Wagner himself became a cultural Christian later in life, at the latest with Parsifal, which led to the breakup with Nietzsche. And Nietzsche was right to denounce the Schopenhauerian pessimism and Christian nihilism, but actualy following the path of neo-paganaism and the virtues of "survival of the fittest" and social-darwinism lead straight to the Reich. So we already that and it not only failed, but got utterly destroyed. The rest is historic consequence. The little ethnic solidarity the alt-right tries to promot is nothing but a shadow of the Reich and the attempt of Mussolini to revive the Roman Empire.

And when you need to TELL people it's a bad idea to become the minority in their own countries, you are way past the point of no return.

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>>135317048
It's not about the Scotsman. It's a fact that the majority of christians are disgusted by him and the numbers of leaving the church speak for itself - without actually making more atheist.

>>Merkel's party is the Christian Democratic Union
Merkel which is Ex-Stasi and of which their former collegues at the university said that she matches far more the Green party and never said anything positive about christianity.

>>Merkel herself is the religious daughter of a protestant pastor
Which is a kike with a changed name, you retard. CHanged during the war in Poland so that he wound get gassed.

>>both churches condemn AfD voters to the point of threatening excommunication
Gee, why do you think PEGIDA and go are on the rise in other forms (heavily religious nationalist) when the church complex has been given up?

>>Deutscher Kirchentag is basically SJW the religious happening
See above you stupid larper. You don't know shit about the christian community and claim that they all follow those personalities. You'Re a silly excuse and the reason why germany is falling to muzzies.

>>135317485
Lol, the NIV literally includes "gender-neutral language," in order to appeal to the modern crowd. Anything you read in the NIV after knowing that should be taken with a whole salt shaker.

>>135273064
who wants a revival on something that already exists?

lmao you "le pagan" LARPers are beyond ridiculous

>>135317501
I absolutely do. And dozens of more incidents like it. Of all the groups in the new right, the CIDF is the most dishonest and with the greatest cognitive dissonance. It's worse than arguing with liberals desu

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>>135317653
The axe represents power. Unity for the bundle, power with the axe.
It represents the power to carry out punishments, particularly capital punishments.
There's the pomerium. The sacred part of the city of Rome. Remus violated that, so Romulus killed him (in one variants of the story). Lictors had their axes removed there because they had no capital power, only the assemblies held it there. They could have people beaten, but not killed.

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>>135317048
the church in your country is laughable I agree. But raving about cuckstianity when most of the world is sane is just dumb. We are propably Europes most christian country and havent taken in a single nigger.

Your problem is not christianity. Its Germans. You people are terminally insane, whatever you touch turns to shit at this point. If stoicism became popular in Germany I bet you Krauts would make it about LGBTQWTF issues and sucking nigger cocks in a heartbeat.

Volkstod is the only solution for the twisted howling corpse that is your "nation". Just die out already.

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>this the truth
>no that the truth
>goes to hell and gets tormented for all eternity
Whats with the influx of ahmeds in recent years. I'm used to the kikes and they keep you in shape but come on now.

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>>135273064
Mormon fag here.

I've converted more people to my extra crazy version of Christianity than you EVER convert to your faggy little "stoicism" meme.

Christianity objectively the best religion / philosophy and framework for civilization that has ever been created.

Long after you're dead, and the only memory of "stoicism" is in books on the ancient world.

We will endure.

Enjoy disappearing into nothing leaving no meaningful legacy.

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>>135317925
And not a single argument was spotted in your post. Merkel also wasn't Stasi. Her job was secretary for agitation and propaganda in the youth organization of the communist party. And it absolutely doesn't exclude to be a Marxist when you are a Christcuck. See liberation thelogoy, the current pope and all the Christian NGOs.

And the worst lie any of you can tell is that it is anyone but YOU who is responsible for the Islamic Invasion. Especially when groups like pro asyl are founded and run by Christcucks. https://www.proasyl.de/foerderverein/
Founder Dr. Jürgen Miksch, sociologist and protestant theologian. Archtypical for your "religion".

And I was a Christian myself for twenty years. No treachery ever was worse than that of the churches to Europe. But all of you are textbook examples of brainwashed people.

>As I mentioned before, exposure to true information does not matter anymore. A person who was demoralized is unable to assess true information. The facts tell nothing to him, even if I shower him with information, with authentic proof, with documents and pictures. ...he will refuse to believe it.... That's the tragedy of the situation of demoralization.

Last (you) btw

>>135318771
>commie
>praises christianity
Nigga, this some reverse phschology?

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>>135318652
(YOU)

Btw, you are a nationalist country. If there ever will be one thing that brings down your borders, it will be Christianity.

>>135273064
>pshh, nothin personal kid

>>135318771
>Claims to be Christian
>Is communist (lmao)
>posts a degenerate GIF
stop your larping nigger

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>>135319011
No, it is the logical conclusion. Cucktianity was, is and will be the grandmother of communism.

>>135317501
Remember when it was on during NYE when the dome was getting bombarded with bottle rockets and we had the taharrush going on?

>>135319206
Christianity if anything is more closer to Fascism or at the very least, Monarchism because of the belief in hierarchy even down to the family. The Russian
monarchs were always blessed and helped fight off the Jew threat by even mass printing the Protocols.

>>135319206
The Bible specifically condemns communism. Communism is a spawn of Jewish filth and degeneracy.

>>135318912
>And the worst lie any of you can tell is that it is anyone but YOU who is responsible for the Islamic Invasion. Especially when groups like pro asyl are founded and run by Christcucks. https://www.proasyl.de/foerderverein/
>Founder Dr. Jürgen Miksch, sociologist and protestant theologian. Archtypical for your "religion".
Not getting the point - the post.
If I take the german politicians and take their views, does this mean the Plebs have the same one? No. On the contrary, most would dissagree it the vote would be taken seriously and not mixed up with non-natives.

It's the same with christian figures virtue signaling and actual small christians. But I'm obviously wasting my time. You just want to larp some Tulean nonsense which even the Führer laughed about.

>>135273064
You're a fucking idiot

>>135319206
the bible has no black friends.

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There is an old saying: Do not reinvent the wheel.

The Bible itself acknowledges it speaks in parables. At it's base the Bible is about faith. Not logic or reason.

Attempting to evangelize logic and reason as a replacement for religion has historically resulted in atrocities. The decline of Catholicism leading the Muslim invasions in Europe, French Reign of Terror succeeding the "Cult of Reason", Karl Marx's militant atheist dogma, Hitler regarding the American "eugenics" as his "bible" all resulted in atrocity after atrocity. 50 million deaths alone in Zedong Mao's China. Huge atrocities occurred under the USSR's and North Korea's cults of personality.

Logic and reason are not replacements for religion. Not at the societal level. George Washington and Eisenhower both knew and taught this lesson to us.

Atheism always opens up a power vacuum for a dangerous religion or for communism to fill. Look no further than how the left is deifying Bernie Sanders right now or the morons who refer to Harry Potter books as "The Text". That is very dangerous.

In America we worship God, not the government.

Christianity has updated itself in the past. 1st during late Antiquity (Aryanism vs Trinitarianism), 2nd during the Renaissance (Theology separate from science and government), and it can update itself again.

Do not reinvent the wheel.

>>135296987
BOOM!

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>>135320760
That picture.

FeelsGood

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>>135320036
Its "Your" you fucking dingus.

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>>135319206

Atheism was, is and will always be the grandmother of communism.

Atheists overwhelmingly lean left -- regardless of the few right wing atheists.

Atheists do not organize in churches. They organize in the media and the government. This historically leads to atrocities.

That is why atheists are hated so much. Atheism and secular morality has led to our current state of decline in the West.

A little suggestion for you in the coming years: Keep your mouth shut regarding your atheism when in person. A new wave Christianity is rising in this country.

Considering what's happening in London right now with Muslims after Richard Dawkins evangelizing atheism many Christians will not be sympathetic to your logic, reason, or arguments in person. And I am severely understating my definition of "not sympathetic". Things could get very ugly for people like you.

>>135320760
The Bible's ethics are completely logical if you assume that societal improvement is logical.

>>135322411
>A new wave Christianity is rising in this country.
Well yeah, those niggers and spics that are displacing you are all Christians.

>>135322758
Pretty sure those are Muslims

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>>135303128

>>135322944
>Niggers and spics in the US are muslim
Source

>>135290739
You are pretty retarded

Actually the theory of forms is extremely useful for Object Oriented Programming and the philosophy also is one of the core concepts behind mathematics.

>>135322449

True. The Bible has everything we need in it to keep order at the local level. It is one of the base documents for Western Civilization. The American Constitution is another one.

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>>135322758

>and spics

50% of American "hispanics" are white. The census data is extremely misleading. According to the census people like Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz along with their completely caucasian families are "hispanic minorities".

The hispanic-white immigration to America ultimately has lead to a caucasian brain drain in Mexico.

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>>135323526
but they aren't enough https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cC8P1jdqJSE

people have to actively fight against communists and collectivists. otherwise they bring us down to their level and defeat us with their experience

>>135323209
Oh, you mean in the US. Well Americans are heretics, in fact they've degenerated the most.

>>135323805
That you count Marco Rubio as white says pretty much everything.

>>135273064
>The west has always been poly-narrative. With each class evolving its own narrative. And with each class narrative justifying its role in the natural law of sovereign men. The cult of sovereignty for the aristocracy, the cult of law for the priesthood of the aristocracy, stoicism for the middle aspirational classes, and christianity for the laboring classes, and the cult of rejection, rebellion, and escape by the undesirable classes.

>>135323526
The American Constitution is no where near perfect. Monarchism is praised in the Bible, even the Epistle.

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>>135303128
>all of the Roman Empire didn't happen

>>135273064
>Sparta a role model
Wasn't Sparta gay as fuck?

>>135308633
Not defending anything but since all his other sons died what else could he do?

>>135324073

>The American Constitution is no where near perfect.

True, but it is the oldest (or maybe one of three) that is still in use today. That says something about how well it was written.

>Monarchism is praised in the Bible, even the Epistle.

Monarchy is what happens where there are very low resources. As monarchies mature -- especially under whites -- they evolve into republics.

Both Christ and the epistles direct their followers to worship God but to pay their taxes to Caesar, and Rome was not a monarchy at that time.

>>135324834
no

>>135325490
The oldest what?

>>135325745

Constitution. See the preceding green text comment.

>>135325490
I don't care if kiked nations use it or not, national socialism and legionarism is the way to go.
>Monarchy is what happens where there are very low resources. As monarchies mature -- especially under whites -- they evolve into republics.

Now this is completely false, Russia has very very many resources and still had saintly monarchs. In fact, when they discovered oil is when (((they))) decided to overthrow
Russia.

>Both Christ and the epistles direct their followers to worship God but to pay their taxes to Caesar, and Rome was not a monarchy at that time.
Because Christians shouldn't constantly make revolutions, that's retarded but a monarchy is far more desirable.

>>135324834

No - Sparta routinely made fun of the Athenians and Thebans for openly endorsing gay sex.

Sparta was also routinely thought to be backward and illogical for NOT having state sanctioned homosexuality especially with young boys. One of Sparta's greatest critics wrote implicitly to defame Sparta as odd and uncivilized for believing that when a man takes a boy under his wing to teach him, to partake in sexual activity with the boy is ultimately a betrayal of the position of mentor.

People who claim the Dorian caste of ancient Sparta were not in constant decline and had actual laws about male and female sexual activities to the point even gay men who only liked other men HAD TO by LAW marry and have children before he was allowed to pursue a gay relationship. Children above all else was more important than grain to the Spartans.

Many (((sources))) and (((historians))) have latched on to these peculiar laws and multiple attempts at increasing the Spartan population as a result of broad stroke common practice. Yet it is clearly stated by non Spartans at the time it was a law brought in for the tiny minority of Spartan gays. Dorian Greeks died out well before they had become feminized like the other Nordic invaders such as the Athenians. Spartan's kept their bloodline pure but lost too many in war and never recovered from a couple bad losses.

So it became legal to take a NON spartan wife or husband in an attempt to bring in new blood and revitalize the population. When they finally succumbed to race mixing they were only a few thousand strong.

The reason Sparta gets attacked so often as "eww Sparta was super gay" is because of Laconophilia that was so prevalent in the early enlightenment all the way until the early 20th century. At the the height of any of the recent European powers including the British there was an intense effort to modernize and incorporate the Spartan military philosophy.

>>135306920
>>135308723
>Mexican intellectuals
You dumb idiot, nowhere is this held up as some divine ideal.

>bunch of fairytales ripped from mesopotamian civilizations
>implying Judaism isn't Mesopotamian
You know they claim descent Mesopotamians?
>reflect the values and culture
prove it

>>135326307
Can't tell if you're serious or joking. Can't help but to think back to that DNA in food screencap with Americans.

we need a thread to discuss only stoicism without christcucks shitting all over it

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>>135324834

This cannot be allowed because to do so would firmly place each groupings of people into legally defined cultural groups. Guess (((who))) would be instantly seen as under miners and usurpers of power and wealth and have state backed legal action taken against (((them)))?

This is why the Nazi's were so focused on things like establishing in young people physical fitness and healthy diets - it allows you to pursue purpose with little encumbrance any goal you set for yourself. Strong healthy children become productive strong healthy young adults, with quick minds and uncorrupted souls. How can you push degeneracy when the local women with sheer laconic wit expose you instantly as a lesser man? How can you physically rise up against the males of the dominant peoples of a country, when the vast majority are not just willing but also physically capable of trained resistance?

(((They))) constantly push the gay narrative on Sparta so in the modern perception you see them as weak and corrupted - you do not value anything Sparta valued because you fear accusation of homophillia.

Ultimately goy remember to not exercise and eat well - do not prioritize your own group - do not value strength and skill. Especially never show appreciation for wit and quick thinking. You need to be slow and wait to be told what to think about. Just wait for the nightly news or tomorrow's paper to make a decision. Do not improve yourself. Do not strive for excellence. DO NOT value other people who do. Castrate them verbally and vilify them.

So we say now "may you live a long and peaceful life" as well wishing phrase. IF you have something worth dying for, something worth fighting for the above phrase is offensive. Despite all the cartoonery of 300, I did like the few historical bits they did fit in.

"May you live forever" To a man is to me now one of the most degrading things I can think of to wish on someone.

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>>135326619

>national socialism and legionarism is the way to go.

And yet, you have no movement with any real numbers.

>Russia has very very many resources and still had saintly monarchs.

Famine under Russian monarchy caused their communist revolution.

>Because Christians shouldn't constantly make revolutions, that's retarded

You need to organize your thought processes better.

>but a monarchy is far more desirable.

Then walk onto a military base and say the same thing, since you're so tough and brave.

You are what happens when teenagers get on the internet. It's why older men generally avoid teaching teenagers like yourself any useful knowledge. It is exhausting dealing with this mentality.

>>135327565

What are you talking about? What point are you making?

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>>135328698

>>135328610
>It is exhausting dealing with this mentality.

And on that note, I'm out. Later.

>>135281453
R A R E

>>135328850

Handed your ass to you in 1945. :)

Bye.

>>135273064
>a philosophy for the masses
>basically the common good prevails
Yeah right, just look at the URSS

>>135273064
>not Hermeticism
>no talk of comparative religion

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>>135273064
Large chunks of Stoicism were adopted by Christianity.

Christianity is essentially Stoicism + meekness + regular religious worship

>>135273064
>Stoic
>Can't help but emotionally swipe at Christians

You already failed OP. Oh and stoics weren't emotionally stone as your philosophy larping might be but were said to be mildly cheerful 99% of the time... As if going out for a walk on a beautiful day.

>>135329171
>reddit-tier atheist drivel

>>135329101
everyone likes to pontificate but what we essentialy need is a religion that would shame people into being good.

>>135328610

That is clearly a problem though. The old vilify the young as impatient and stupid. As if this is some new revelation. They do not take the time and use their so called older experience and patience to pass on wisdom. The youth in turn begin to hate and despise the elders - they blame them for lack of direction. The world turns and civilization sours like an old fruit.

I do not deign to say you should take it upon yourself personally to teach an anonymous disinterested idiot on the internet about anything. Pointing out their flaws as due to their age is dismissive nonsense. Disdain of the youth is favourable to (((them))). Sympathy for youth is what is needed. Sympathy and a firm hand.

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>>135329308
I mean the meaning of the word is explained even on Wikipedia, that's how much this confusion is widespread

>>135273064

Destroyers of western civilization.

Patriarchy to fix it or be conquered from within by islam.

Patriarchy will most likely not happen so the only future ahead is islam.

If you have longer than 40 years to life, enjoy your enrichment.

>>135329559
the elves meme is strong

>>135328610
>And yet, you have no movement with any real numbers.
The Iron Guard/Legion used to be very popular until kikery, this is a fallacy.

>Famine under Russian monarchy caused their communist revolution.
Mostly in Yakutia, Russia was heading for industrialization and giving land to peasants.

>You need to organize your thought processes better.
Then enlighten me.

>Then walk onto a military base and say the same thing, since you're so tough and brave.
How is this relevant at all?

>You are what happens when teenagers get on the internet. It's why older men generally avoid teaching teenagers like yourself any useful knowledge. It is exhausting dealing with this mentality.
HOW DARE YOU ASSUME MY AGE REEEEEEEEE

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Stoic philosophy written by a /pol/ack.

>>135329910
go away, sean

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It certainly contains a couple of critical convictions for he whom wishes to stand tall in this world of blinding love and hate, shrouded in eternal darkness.

However, I won't blame those who want to lay down and die, perish like dust in the wind.

Real men harness hardship.

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It certainly contains a couple of critical convictions for he whom wishes to stand tall in this world of blinding love and hate, shrouded in eternal darkness.

However, I won't blame those who want to lay down and die, perish like dust in the wind.

Every man takes the limits of his own field of vision for the limits of the world.

The drool obliterates the stone, not by its power, but by constantly falling.

Real men harness hardship.

Let's suck eachothers ccocks.

Real men harness hardship.

..... I'm all for stoicism. I just read babbys first books on stoicism. Meditations and shortness of life. Look they're great.

But the book of ecclesiastes absolutely smokes them.

Before you write off the bible (which you've never read) why don't you actually look into it?

OP is a faggot.

>>135332654
sure, but some "trans-humanists" might beg to differ.

>>135307949
Orthodoxy is a big deal for pretty much everyone that isnt a sodomite. Sodomites and nihilists will try to keep Christianity down and their societies will only become more lost because of it.

>>135329308
B T F O

Brainwashed numales will deny themselves the truth until the day they die.

>>135304711
Gr8 b8 m8. In double case you aren'ttrolling though, its good to know that the greeks and romans were barbarians.

>>135333534
Knowledge of the true nature of reality can be shared only between Buddha's.

>>135334914
as if that's better, instead of defeating your enemies and making babies, you would sit on your ass "meditating"until you die

Read the ancient art of stoic joy, and Tom wolfes a man in Full

>>135273064
Stoicism is not a religion. And religion is not a collection of lifestyle tips.
For religion.... Teosophy ftw.

>>135299460
I assume you think that Jesus's quote was about socialism, with that Friedman pic you also posted. You seemed to have locked on the "give to the poor" part of that quote, even though it is the only logical thing to do in that situation (if you are going to give away your possessions, why not give them to people who might need them?).
The TRUE meaning of that quote is that if man aspires to enter paradise, then he must be willing to forsake all worldly things. You are not truly ready to enter Heaven if you still cling to your gold and jewelry (note that this is likely one of the reasons the Jews branded Jesus a blasphemer).

>>135273064

>objectively indefensible

uou saw it here first folks

centuries of christian apologetics from the most brilliant men of their generation BTFO by some Hans fedora on pol.

>>135273340
This

>>135335807
that's what you get when retards try to read the bible and take it at face value

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Oh look here. More Reddit fedorafags thinking that by shitting on Christianity they will "fit in" with the board. Time for some Hanazuki methinks.

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>>135303128
>ITT /pol/ gets baited