Is /pol/ ready for Calexit?

Please do it. Then we can wipe them all out it the war of reconquest

Democrats would never allow this, it would effectively kill their party in the US

I hope so. After a couple of years allowing all the disgusting degenerate faggots to immigrate there, we can shut off the water then attack and wipe out everyone there.

one way to solve congressional gridlock

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>>135272203

The wall just got 800 miles longer.

Please God do it, I would cheerfully help in any way possible.

>>135272203
PLEASE YES YES YES

END THE DEMS

>>135272203
These faggots can try but they don't realize how much opposition lives among them
t. OC fag

>>135272342
No it wouldn't

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for all you retards who think this would "end the dems", you don't know what you're talking about

Pic related is a winning electoral map for the Dems without California. A strong candidate could easily accomplish this.

>>135272203
>California seceeds
>a Democrat is never elected president again
I am okay with this.

>>135272342

THIS.

>>135272642
NH, dude you wish

>>135272203
South Carolina here. I support it %200

>>135272642
What did 2016 look like again?

>>135272642
>>strong
>>democrat

Now that's a shitpost!

>>135272642
Pretty sure California 55 would be split among the rest of the states

>>135272642
>blue pennsylvania
>blue florida
>blue michigan

how many times do we have to teach you this lesson, old man?

>>135272342
They have no chance to ever regain power in the US under their current ideology.
They also have no chance of ever losing power in CA.

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>>135272203
yeah once this investigation is over the entire swamp will be drained
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUQUTPAS8b0&feature=youtu.be&t=25525

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>>135272529
Yes it would. It'd be giving the republicans a chance to face you without having 55/270 votes from the starting line. That's a pretty large number of elector votes they'd have to get else where. Though the 270 number might go down without cali as a state it still only hurts them instead of their enemies.

>>135272642
Michigan is no longer dem. They made sure of that when they got rid of all the factory jobs. You're an idiot if you think Michigan will ever go dem ever again.

>>135272642
>Flordia
>blue

>>135272882
My nigga

>>135272203
Wtf i hate abraham lincoln now

I just realized that is this were to become a reality, which I don't think won't happen because once you are in the United States union you can't succeed (Texas tried to do that) Jefferson State would exist?

>>135272203
I believe it was firmly established in 1863 that states can't just secede whenever they want to. This should be fun.
>>135272763
>>135272792
>>135272823
>>135272882
>I'm only old enough to remember the last election: the post

The last 2 democratic presidents literally would also have won without California.
>>135272982
This is somewhat true short term but still doesn't guarantee anything on a 12+ year scale.

>>135272203
Please leave faggots

>>135273052
Florida is a knife-edge swing state. It went red this time, and before that it went blue, and before that it went red again.

It is well within the realm of possibility for a Democrat candidate to win Florida, Pennsylvania, Michigan, even Wisconsin and New Hampshire.

Keep in mind that what will likely happen is California's 55 delegates will be re-assigned proportionately to the other states. These numbers on the old map would be very different

>>135272642

You do realize those 55 electoral college votes get spread to the other states, right?

Just lol.

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>California leaves
>suddenly you realize California is actually super fucking important
oh nooo, that sucks

>>135272203
The best thing that could possibly happen to the USA. The Dems would have to switch hard-right.

>>135272203
Can't legally happen anyway

>Is /pol/ ready for Calexit?
Yes, please.

#Calexit would ensure the death of Democrat party and the source of much of the liberal money and votes in the country.

>>135272203
i hope they will exit from the internet as well

>>135272203
>tfw democrats will never win anything again

california will collapse in a matter of months and we will make them a territory that can't vote for shit when we annex what's left

>>135272642
>strong candidate
>Democrat
Hahaha.

Texas anon here..fully support it..they shouldn't be allowed dual citizenship either...sick of those liberal fags coming to texas spreading their communism

>>135273662
America would be whiter too, most Mestizos live in California.

>>135272203
>California seceeds
>Trump moves troops into Cali and burns their capitol
Yes I'm ready

>>135273052
You're forgetting about all those blue state retards who retire there

>>135273555
This. Also this is the reason Democrats will (try to) shut it down.

>>135272642
>he thinks republican california will separate along with the libtards

>>135272203
We can only hope!

>>135272926
It would be 269 instead of 270. The loss of two senators is all that would happen.

>>135272203

Californian here.

I'll vote for it. Then join the movement to make Jefferson real.

If it comes to Calexit by bullet or ballot Jefferson will exist.

>>135273490
Montana and Idaho are more than willing to pick up the slack.

But regardless, the moment that california secedes, the norththern part would split from them and enter the US as the state of Jefferson. since nearly all of the farming is done there, california would be screwed the US would still have all it needs

>>135273490
>cal leaves the union
>suddenly they realize they are dependent on energy that comes from other states
Oh nooooo, that sucks for them

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>>135272203


/pol/ we have to push this as hard as we ever can !!

CALEXIT NOW !!


I sugget we collect propaganda material to spread EVERYWHERE !!

cut commifornia off and build a big beautiful wall around it !!!

>>135272203
Let them succeed.

Then we retake it and make SoCal a territory like puerto rico, and make Jefferson a state to take its spot on the flag (49 would just be inconvenient)

>>135272203
Yes.
>Cali secedes
>rest of the US deploys the army
>all Cali authority replaced

>>135273270
The last "strong democrat" was carter, Clinton won by charisma obongo was pure virtue signalling, the democrats have no core left just infinite fringes that vote against the republican

>>135273490
>turn off water
>they come running back
>have to become a territory again
Gee, it's almost as if they need the US to begin with.
I highly doubt the whole state will secede anyway. The only places there that would want to leave are the cities. If most of the state stays, then not only do they not get any food but the impact on us becomes minuscule.

>>135272642
yeah sure whatever you say

do it!!!

do it please!!!!!

Imagine turning the democrats into a Uni-Coastal party.

>>135272203
I want to see them fail to watch their salt exports increase.

>>135273365
>Knife edge

Florida went red specifically because of all the new voter security laws it has in place to prevent fraud

>>135273490
>The state that has to pump outside water sources because salt water treatment plants aren't "green"
Sure my man, sure

>>135273270
>>I'm only old enough to remember the last election: the post

>I cannot accept defeat so I cling to the past

>>135273490
You pretty much monopolize all of that shit. It's nothing that can't be made up by other states. Your arrogance offends me.

>>135273219

It would be messy as all fuck. But Jefferson would probably declare independence from California and join the union in the same day.

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>>135272792

>>135272203
Never going to happen

>>135272297
This.

>>135272642
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
*breathes in*
AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
*shits self uncontrollably*

>>135273490
implying those farms don't rely heavily on government subsidies

>>135273555
Calexit will hurt the Democratic party in 2018 either way. Republicans in California don't vote because they don't think they can win, but to keep California in the Union they'll turn out in droves and vote out a bunch of Democrats in a bunch of districts across the state.

libtards really are so fucking stupid

>>135272297
If this happens, I'm going to seriously regret not having joined the military. Imagine getting paid to waste dumb liberals.

>>135272882
This person is not an old man if they were an old man they would know that those were all Republican states only recently have they become Democrat

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>>135272203
Getting rid of holly jew?Fuck yeah!

>>135274291
Hope so. And eastern California.

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>Be an evangelical from the midwest
>Consistently push Republican candidates that champion immigration, amnesty, and open borders
>muh liberty and equality n shiiiettt
>hate those evil racist democrats who want to close the borders
>override the objections of California natives, who have voted against open borders for generations
>California goes from a deep red state, to a deep blue state
>shiiiiieeettt
>California gets totally fucked by the immigrants voting themselves benefits, destroying the culture
>produce a mass exodus of native Californians
>"hurr durr, I hate these Californian transplants! Fuck them all! durr, let's try to make California leave the union now"

>>135272203
GIIIIIIYHNDDDDDDDA MOY

>>135273490
Then California realizes it's not self sufficient for other matters and that the rest of America has more bargaining chips than California ever would or will have

>>135273214
Not even green Orange County Riverside San Bernardino and San Diego those are red Republican.

>>135274294
That map is inaccurate, Trump didn't win in Riverside or Orange county because of all the cuckservatives who wanted Jeb voting for Hillary.

>>135274495
Дa я дa яя дaa яя

>>135272203
>Mexicans swarm into california
>Once they number enough they're calling for independance
>Mexico is literally invading the US and taking it's land and /pol/ is too busy blaming it on the libruls

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>>135272203
Be prepared to fight all of California's Gexicans (gay Mexicans) in the up coming Californian war

>>135274291
Best scenario.

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>>135274448
>tfw Jefferson and East California merge as the New California Republic
>tfw SoCal becomes the Peoples Republic of California

>>135274495
>Ronald Reagan was from the Midwest

Really fried my almonds

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It's just a matter of time before liberal California exits the hard way...

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>>135274569
>jeb
>cuck
Get out son.

People in California just voted themselves a new .15 per gallon gas tax increase and a .10 per grocery sack tax that the store gets to keep. They are dumb enough to vote themselves out of the Union. See-ya!

>>135274619
Liberals are the ones who enabled the mexicans to take over in the first place

>>135272203
You fags realize this is only for show and that Cali can't leave without permission from the other states, right?

>>135272203
Most of us here encourage it. They will come running back when they run out of water

>>135272297
If I have digits then this is confirmed.

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>>135272203
mfw when dropping mortars on pride parades

>>135274681
Permission granted.

>>135274563
Our counties are slowly getting cucked by the filth moving into our communities from LA. Shit sucks but the counties are purple and with time and enough minorities that aren't Asian our demographics will be erased and just another silent voice in California legislature.

>>135272529
Hillary won the popular vote by 3 million votes. Hillary won in California by 4 million votes.

>>135274700
How exactly does California supposedly get water from other states? You think there are huge trucks shipping in water?

>>135274850

Pipelines.

>>135273719
This. I miss Rick Perry's shittalking about California. Now even he's gotten soft and the faggots at Austin who came from California don't even consider themselves Texans.

>>135274850
What is a dam on the Colorado river for $500

>>135272203
>the neo-confederacy prepares itself to be btfo
I told you the south would rise again. We union now.

>>135274398

Hoh hoooo...good point anon.

>>135273932

Then imagine being able to starve all the Mexishits and Libshit we wouldn't let cross the border. The Mexishits would raid and pilliage the few remaining libshit homes for supplies and kill them all off.

Basically we could then starve them all to death. Just like the Kikes did to a 100 million people in the Ukraine.

TRUE STORY

NOT FAKE LIKE KIKE HOLOHOAX

>>135274797
This. Let them go.

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>>135274654
It happened once before. I hope it's wiped out by hottest flame or engulfed by the ocean. Either way would be a gift to the state.

>>135274797
I second this.

>there are actual idiots on here who think CA will ever secede

You dumbasses.

>>135273490
The land belongs to the federal government. This was decided in the civil war. So them voting to secede would literally just be them voting to have themselves killed and replaced. America has nothing to lose and a lot to gain from that.

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>>135274897
There aren't any. The only source of water for California from other states is the LA aqueduct which takes water from the Colorado river

pic related. See that little blue line?

>>135274803

A lot of illegally voting Mexishits there. Thanks to a special Uncle Sambo Tom Nigger. Further note Mexishits collect more welfare AKA (Our Money Our Tax Dollars) than even our own citizens do.

MEXICANS ARE SHIT!

>>135274850
Pipelines nigger. Don't you read?

>>135273052
Trump only won by like one percent there

>>135272203
Looks like someone has found a new way to bilk the Bernie/Stein kids out of more of Dad's moneys.
>jealous.bat

>>135275227
Why do you have no optimism?Fuck california.

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>>135272203
DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
IIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
DO IT.
WARNING:

California wil be nearing 20% white population in about 1.5 generations. This is not a false alarm. If they remain in the Union, once the state crash and burns like Puerto Rico, they'll be flooding the rest of country and asking for unprecedented bailouts.

Separate statehood is the only reasonable approach. Both sides get to stand up and prove their politics can exist.

>>135273490
Oh noes we will just have to plant elsewhere

>>135273886
>south Africa in charge of understanding the electoral college
You couldn't have been more wrong if you'd tried.

California has 55 electoral votes of 538 total electoral votes. If CA seceded, the total electoral college would either drop 55 votes, to become 483 (242 to win), or the electoral votes would remain the same, to be redistributed amongst the states that remain, in which case 270 would still be the number.

>>135272203
Itll be like the nullification crisis, except this time its trump riding into cali instead of jackson

>>135275021
Wrong.
Dead spics would litter the streets
Me and my rifle would be super comfy on my rooftop

>>135274632

California Coastal would be the Republic of California.

Jefferson would be a state in the union consisting of Jefferson proper 'up north' and foothill and Sierra counties. Some valley countries might join Jefferson like Stanislaus.

RoC would probably reee at that. But they lack a military so they wouldn't do much. If they tried the US would just annex them, or put them under a shit ton of sanctions.

RoC if they went the devil option could cut a deal with China for support. In which case shit gets ugly really quick.

I don't think there would be a civil war of sorts in California. But things would get really hard for everyone there. It would be a really 'interesting' time.

>>135275227
It will never happen but I wish it would

>>135275343
you fucking idiot, the average person uses 100 gallons a day. You think we can pump that massive volume through pipes to satisfy the needs of 40 million californians? I don't think so. The vast majority of California's water comes from California.

Instead of saying the first thing that crosses your mind, actually look into whether what you're saying is completely retarded

>>135273490
Those are all hippy foods. We live off corn and wheat, everything else is arbitrary

>>135272529
That's 55 ECs they'd be loosing. They wouldn't allow this.

>>135275407
Did you read? California has the most efficient soil in the US. Probably in all of North America. They can grow things 60% faster

>>135273886
The 9th circuit would be gone also

>>135273490
>be california
>secede from the united states
>america immediately cuts off your water supply
>drought 2.0
>cityfags riot
>most farmers don't have enough water to continue growing their crops
>starvation sets in
>the few farmers lucky enough to have well water survive
>everyone else dies within a month
>american troops swoop in and claim their rightful clay
There's zero reason for farmers to stay in California. They hold no ties or owe any loyalty to the loud, pretentious faggots in southern California. They'd simply continue their trade elsewhere.

>>135275574
>inbred retard detected
No, because that's also 55 votes off the electoral college. Meaning now it's a contest to win 242 instead of 270

>>135275582
I hear the sun gives vita rays to California.

>>135274850

LA gets water from the Colorado. The rest of the state relies on the snow pack for summer water. Which is then piped to LA or used to save three buckets worth of minnows in the Delta.

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>>135274654
>>135275140

San Francisco 1906

https://www.thoughtco.com/1906-san-francisco-earthquake-pictures-4122591

http://archive.is/rLHbI

>>135272642
Why would the amount required still be at 270? Wouldn't it drop with the removal of a state?

Californians better vote for this so I can join the Jefferson liberation movement

>>135272642
florida blue? thats never happening again

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>>135275227
>>135275475
You couldn't be more wrong. Don't look at the US from the vantage of a timeline bubble. The colonies have been through many changes and they'll go through a lot more.

It 100% can happen.

California doesn't have enough money to seceded from the Union. It would need a rain day fund to cover at least 5 years. This means California would be requesting aid from the United States, Canada, and other nations.

Not going to happen.

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This is how Yaaaaaaas California explains how they don't need the US military on their site. Gave me a good kekkle.

"California doesn’t pose a threat to any other country so there would be no risk to California of being attacked by another country. On top of that, this is the 21st Century. Unless you’re the Americans, countries typically don’t amass armies, cross oceans, and invade other countries anymore. ..."

It'S tHe CuRrEnT YeEeAaARrRRrR!!!@!@@!

>>135275761
1992
>Florida red
1996
>Florida blue
2000
>Florida red
2004
>Florida red
2008
>Florida blue
2012
>Florida blue
2016
>Florida red
2020+
>hurr durr, Florida will never ever go blue again

>>135275773
Does this mean those black pornstars everyone flips out over are likely illiterate?

>>135275817
If California wants to secede, they would have to eject all the illegals and poors and became deeply conservative.

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>>135275817
Aid in exchange for cheaper produce/trade. The only way you get it to happen is to push it in the direction. California will secede. Now or 5 years from now, but it will.

>>135272203

You won't do it, you're scaaaaaarrrrrred

>>135276001

The bigger the dick, the smaller the brain.

>>135275731

Amen brother! A happening for us to partake in.

>have /Jefferson/ generals on pol.
>talk about the fight and the happenings.
>California flag for those in California
>mingle with soldiers of 4chan

>>135272203
>Is /pol/ ready for Calexit?

who would command the pacific fleet?

>>135272421
Imagine. Caliexit, and tensions between US And California rise. California Diaspora go back to where they feel welcome. Out-of-State students from California have to pay international fees, sending all college kids back to California.
A country without the California virus

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>>135276033
You mean, like how they were before Reagan-jesus blessed them with his magic healing powers?

>>135272203
Don't they know there was a warranty fought over this before? They should have to settle all debts to zero their debt to the us govt before it goes any further. Pull all natural guard and all military equipment.

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They hate US cause' they ain't US

>>135275773
whether it can or cant we need to meme it. secession becomes a more legitimate option if first put out by caliniggers

if they can do it, it is autimatically a success for red states

>>135273270
That was before the Dems committed suicide with their lack of feasible policies, hatred of whites and embracing the worst sector of the left as their speakers.

"No white man has ever been poor."
- Bernie "four vacation homes is a human right while bitching about extreme wealth" Sanders

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>>135272342
>all whitey libtards jump the border after Calexit and continue voting democrat in Texas etc... efectively killing more states.

Should California secedes, all current residents will still be citizens of the United States unless they renounce their citizenship.

>>135272203
plz don't join canada plz don't join canada

>>135272297
>>135272421
>>135272467
>>135272478
Holy fuck Americans are dumb.

California is the biggest contributor to the federal budget. Calexit would be disasterous for the US just like Brexit is for the UK.

>>135276325
why would we let them jump the border?

blue states already sue private citizens for changing their state if residence.

calufornia wouldnt let then leave a.d we wouldnt want to take most people anyway

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>>135276174
They're never going back to that. That was before the full weight of 1965 Immigration Act + globalists paying unions (which used to stop this) to turn to the dark side and support unchecked southern borders and illegals spreading to tens of millions.

>be liberal
>die for shitty Mexico
How do we meme this to happen?

>>135276441
Thanks fag.

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>Cali leaves the Union
>USA financial rating immediately improves to octuple-A status.

If they don't choose to leave I will vote to kick them out.

>>135272203
Yes. South West California can get the FUCK OUT. Put a wall around them. The rest of the state wants to stay and can stay.

>>135272203
where the godamn california
but the south can't succeed
only if you support spics invading

lets go kill this load of godamn faggots and incorporate it into a new gold- whatever else it has farm
we can have 1 million cotton farms loaded with slaves

why dont we make mexican's slaves?

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>>135273959
I'm not sure Canada would be willing to continue to supply power and water to them during a civil war, either. Maybe when they are all huddling thirsty in the dark they'll rethink their green policies that lead to a massive lack of local power generation.

>>135276708

>TRUMP THAT BITCH

>TRUMP THAT HOE

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>>135276441
t. UN Faggot

Brexit will be the greatest thing to happen to the UK once the dust settles. They'll finally be free to trade on their own terms. Only the worst scum of the planet says what you say, fearing sovereignty.

Take your FUD delusions back to >>>/reddit.

>pic related: actually disastrous for the world

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>>135273270
it never was established
lincoln was a nigger lover
theyre still is slavery in america
two left dont make a right

>i dont care about facts i just want the people i hate to suffer

t. /pol/

>>135276441
>the UK is a large contributor to the EU
>the UK will suffer as a result of leaving the EU
>CA is a large contributor to the US
>CA will prosper as a result of leaving the US
Nice logic.
By all means, encourage California to secede. I'd love to see several million libtards and spics enter a mass panic as they die from dehydration.

>>135276352
That's not true.

>>135275398
>lets not enforce immigration laws
oh look at that no more united states cause california sucks so much jew dick

The bear will leave its cave forever.

>>135273490
>have well known fruit monopolies, exspecially on lemons
>requires water from neighboring states
>us will no longer protect it from over immigration and the actual waste floating up from tijuana
>jefferson will almost immediately leave and join the US
>second civil war, not for territory; just to bomb the faggots
sure the gold/tech rush was big out west, what else ya got?

>>135275489
>100 gallons (of water) a day per person
wtf no you drink a gallon maybe 2 a day, you bathe in 5 -10 gallons
californians have a billion water energy savign shit things hahhahahahahaha no they use like 15-20 percent of that a day.

>>135277020
>>135277228
I meant Brexit will be bad for the EU. Probably the UK as well but definitely bad for the EU.

Just like Calexit would be bad for the US.

Do you retards even know anything about your country? You realise that the blue states are the ones that contribute to the federal budget while the red states just leech money from central govt right?

Losing CA would be the end of America's global hegemony.

>>135276441
Most of their money is a result of their ports, if the US blocks access to them, they could kill California rather quickly
Also, California relies on water from other states, you think they could last even three months without the Government?

>>135272203
>californiggers know so little about US history that they think they can secede

Virginia got split in two, how many will California be split into?

>>135272297
GENERAL MATTIS'S MARCH TO THE SEA

YESSSSSSS

/Pol/:
>People should be able to express their own will, they should be sovereign and autonomous if they want
/Pol/ again:
>Lol, Commiefornia will get brutally annexed or sanctioned to death if they want to leave the union and be sovereign!

Good riddance. Let's get that border wall to take a turn north. Fuck it. Extend that bitch all the way up to kanada. Oregon and Washington have been infested with liberal scum anyway.

>>135277812

again its nothing but 'i hate these people so rules/laws/morals don't apply to them'

/pol/ is just petty because its more fun than being fair.

>>135277773
and that other part became kentucky

kentucky is a piece of shit until you head west somewhere around past bowling green
cant have those big cities talking their fucking terrorist fake homo shit

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>Cali separates
>Massive tax hikes for everyone to sustain the welfare state
>Radically lenient immigration policy
>No more federal funding

How long before they pass a bill begging the USA to let them be a state again?

>>135272203
If California secedes, norcal will come right back as the State of Jefferson. Let it be so.

>Democrats are leaving the Union because they don't want to lose their brown underclass

Poetry.

>>135277031

Marxists deserve to eat rats. From Parisian Communards to the faggots in Stalingrad, it's a Commie tradition that we should allow to continue.

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>>135277565
>requires water from neighboring states
Most of California's agriculture is in the central valley, which is located between two large mountain ranges.
How exactly do they get their water from neighboring states? You think there are massive water tunnels under the Rocky Mountains?

California is actually way less dependent on water from other states than most other states in the union

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>>135272203
/Pol Can. Do. This.

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>>135272203
I am ready for the Jefferson California war

>>135272203
Sweet, going to need a bigger wall. We are not assuming any debt. We will seriously consider strong trade deals. They will have to pay heavily for us to maintain our military bases there. San Diego is a free city. Pelosi must surrender wealth and her tongue.

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>>135275984
Depends on the rate of growth for different populations. Lots of white voters. Also lots of spics and illegals. We all know what will happen eventually, though.

>>135272203
Texas here, how can we help?!!!!

>>135277732
>Water
This is so fucking true and most idiots don't even realize it. South California is a desert in its natural state. This is why California has gone so far as to petition for a pipeline to be built from the great lakes so they can have more water.

>>135277811
top check

>>135274294
that's not the right election map bud

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>>135272203

DO IT, FAGGIFORNIA !!! :D

calexit now !¨
cut off the cancer !!

CALEXIT NOOOOOOOOWWW !!!!!!!


true win-win situation !!!

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>>135277725

I DON'T WANT GLOBAL HEGEMONY. I WANT TO BE LEFT ALONE AND NOT HAVE TO HAVE YOUR BULLSHIT LIBERAL UTOPIA SHOVED UP MY ASS EVERY DAY.

I realize that being a psychopathic Jew, you assume everyone has the same motive of complete control and domination that you do, but I assure you this is not the case.

World War II was a mistake.

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>>135278166
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_in_California#Major_droughts_in_California_history_since_1900
http://www.fox5vegas.com/story/30050763/deal-would-send-50-billion-gallons-of-nevada-water-to-california
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2015/04/150406-california-drought-snowpack-map-water-science/
>take note of the tapping nonrenewable ground water in that last one

>>135279125
Okay then let me put it to you this way: Calexit would result in a massive decrease in the standard of living for all Americans just as Brexit will for all Europeans.

>>135274802
this is true unfortunately. The California state govt openly hate the conservative strongholds.

if SF and LA would just get nuked and the wall would be built the state would be better desu.

>>135276213
They hate us cuz they anus?

>>135277725
They'd only secede from the States long enough to be made an example of. Once starvation and dehydration sets in as the gibs and water stop flowing in, they'd be kicking and screaming to re-join the U.S..
It's not like the U.S. would truly allow them to secede, only long enough for Californians to get the message. It's the equivalent of letting a boy touch a hot stove so he and all the other children know not to do it again.

>>135272203
>I want America to lose the one state that carries a sixth of the world's economy

>>135279531
>Calexit would result in a massive decrease in the standard of living for all Americans just as Brexit will for all Europeans.
Only it won't.

>>135273490

>Agricultural powerhouse
>Implying those redneck farmers want any of your bullshit

Really makes me think....

Let's say the Calexit happened. Would the leadership of California be guilty of treason?

>>135274681
You're seriously under estimating how much the rest of the country hates California

>>135279531
No it won't. Nothing really comes out of California. It's not a major production state. they don't do most of the assembly work across the USA, they aren't where all materials go, they don't handle a large percentage of anything except farm work, which yeah, produce prices would go up. But that's fine. I'll pay a little more to know that my veggies weren't jizzed on by some cuck proving a point.

>>135280032
refer to
>>135279743

>>135272203
is this real or just a non-binding referendum like the last puerto rican vote

>>135272203
What a stupid idea but I'm voting for it for the lulz

>>135279887
only if they lose the war

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>>135272203
why arent we moving every refugee brought to america to the LA basin NOW?

>>135280032
Not to mention, the only reason California is booming at all is because the large companies have lots of offices there. What do you think would happen if that was no longer a US annex? Most of those companies will back out, leaving California with a lot of infrastructure they can't do anything with. How loyal do you think Apple will be to California? Adobe? Oracle? Those are large tech companies and they kind of need the USA so they can prosper, not California.

>>135272642
bu-but thats not what happened at all in the last election you fucking noob

>>135275646
In a union that primarily is red and hates liberals. The final liberal stronghold would be New York, hardly enough to win them an election

>>135272203
>a state that literally depends on others for almost 70% of its drinkable water
hueheuheuheuheheuheueheu please do it cali, we won't even need to invade you, just blockade your ports and cut off the water.

>>135279531

I doubt it would be because the rest of the US would inevitably be California's main trading partner by sheer proximity. The only things coming out of California are farm products and tech ideas from Silicon Valley. Even assuming that it would be a negative impact, it's worth the temporary hardship.

Conservative principles - that is, respect for individual sovereignty, acknowledgement of the rights and consequences of individual responsibility, and acknowledgement of the family unit as the building block of society - are capable of building a thriving society anywhere.

The US originally started dirt poor and at odds with the largest empire in human history. All you need is people with determination and resources with which to build.

>>135280261
So yes. Gotcha.

>>135279124
theyre just fuckign around trying to delay the wall being built
cause, where are we goign to build it now?

>>135280364
>All you need is people with determination and resources with which to build.
You mean, all you need is mass jewish migration to boost your economy into the stratosphere

>>135278604
As a Michigander, I would go to war with Cali without any regrets if they pulled that shit.

Wouldn't even wait for them to Secede.

>>135279638
this. cuckifornia doesnt have enough money, water, or power for its own people. When the highways are blocked and the ports get blockaded, they'll sing a different tune.

I hope CA succeeds, it means that nobody there will ever be able to vote in our elections again, and they'll lose citizenship permanently. After about a week of mexican cartels running a train on these liberal faggots, they'll give up, and CA will be a non-voting territory.
Also they have no guns. lol hard to fight a war without those. Fucking morons

>>135280284
Because LA is a shit-hole that's already over-crowded and too expensive. Move them into Salinas, it's a little further north and it's full of mexicans. Let them sort it out.

>>135280316
A lot of those companies were moving to Texas and such anyway.

>>135280284
Well, this place could start some meme effort, portraying commiefornia cities as safe sanctuaries, and displaying other places as ICE-havens and being unsafe.
Not sure how much impact it would have without being in spanish though.

>gets over ran by mexicans
>all its rich people move to las vegas for lower taxes
>no government help for agriculture

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>>135273214
If this happens, I'm moving back to Tuolumne County. Working in Monterey has been a nightmare.

>mfw $1260 per month for a studio apartment

>>135280403
your post makes me wonder are there even leaders in california charismatic enough to inspire a war effort? jerry brown isn't exactly robert e lee

all the (((jewish daily stormer))) shills in here are fucking low iq and it is painful, but what would you expect. california doesn't have to secede for us to reconquest it. all it takes is people east of the mississippi to wake the fuck up, and realize there is a whole other side of the country they have neglected for a long time. and that brown horde is coming for them. you can't blame your low iq problems on me. idiots. jews. china backed schemes. get the fuck out of here kike.

>>135280529
the truth

>>135273214
SLO, SB, and Ventura would not side w/ "west"

so many geography failures walking among us

>>135280187
refer to
>>135280316

>>135272203
DO IT

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Then we could restrict Californian travel to the US and require them to have a passport and apply for a visa.

Actually need to succeed from CA.

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>>135272882
If you really, REALLY, think that, after deluded trumpanzees expected all the lies he promised...
...that they would be anything but buttblasted right now?
Obamacare won't "fail", trump will just remove its funding to give as tax cuts to the 1% and to bloat our military industrial complex

Goodbye orange cheeto

>>135280692
I want to say that a state that tries to succeed from the union would be declaring war by that act alone. I really hope calexit wins by a narrow margin so the salt is at a maximum.

california's just trying to DELAY the WALL being BUILT.
now we dont' know where to build it, this is all their accomplishing or fucking up. fuck them

>>135272203
I'd move to any blue state that seceded from the US. I'm sick of sharing a country with people who like Donald Trump, and so are many others.

Cascadia needs to happen.

>>135272342
It would also kill replublicans because they would have nobody else to blame for the problems they create

>>135273756
no they are in texas, because texas white boys let niggers and spics fuck their little sisters on based hunting trips. but you knew that. faggot.

You all know why if we secede we would be a success?

Look at all the uneducated hillbillies in this thread that wrote success instead of secede

>>135280457
On the borders of Cali :^)

Then we have an excuse to send RWDS, wipe out some commies and/or Hollywood Jews, then reconquer them like nothing happened

>>135281137
The cringe-tier boomerposting in this thread makes me want to gouge my eyes out. I feel like I'm in a room with a bunch of fucking rednecks. This isn't /pol/, this is like some kind of Breitbart comment field

>>135280261
>if
In the event of CA actually being allowed to secede (highly unlikely), the U.S. military would be withdrawn. As for the police? The majority would almost certainly leave the state in droves after California docks their pay in favor of gibs for illegals.
Then there's the fact that the majority of Californians aren't armed. They'd be left utterly defenseless, ready to be rectally annexed by Mexico or China.

>>135281137
>Look at all the uneducated hillbillies in this thread that wrote success instead of secede

I blame autocorrect.

>>135273761
you know how i know you are a jewish shill? because instead of demanding him send troops and deport every illegal spic like he said, you'd rather pull your chinese monied jew shit and break up the usa.

i am going to hunt down ((ds))). i know where that midget banks and lives. nano tech on dollar bills is rad.

fuck you jews. you best stop.

>>135274634
Yes he was
http://www.tampicohistoricalsociety.com/R_Reagan_Birthplace_Museum.html

>>135274124
So what happens when another charismatic virtue signaling candidate appears? If it happened before it can happen again
>>135274281
No I'm glad Trump won but it's stupid to think the status quo will last forever. Dems are already taking steps to rebrand themselves as a blue collar worker's party with the "better skills, better jobs, better wages" thing. Right now they suck at it and they instinctively regress to SJW bullshit on the slightest provocation (see trannies in the army) but nobody can look 8 or 12 years down the line. All they need is another candidate like Clinton with a platform that speaks to people to win.

The truth is that lately Republican presidents have been winning by much narrower margins than democratic presidents. The last true republican blowout was Bush Sr. and that was back when California was still a reliable red state.

It's stupid to dismiss Democrat chances, even without California. Party platforms and states are both subject to change.

>>135277732
Water AND electricity.

Commiefornia doesn't spend money on infrastructure at all. They grab money like crazy but then sit on it. So they have to rely on other states to supply them shit. If they leave, they will lose access to both and their population centers would go dark and descend into chaos.

I hope that Cali does end up leaving, it would give an excuse for those of us still here to attack folks and not break US law. Dirty liberal commies would die in droves as we took back the state for the glory of the US. Right Wing Death Squads would finally be here.

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>cali secedes
>Jefferson immediately applies for statehood
>USN blockades all cali ports
>without federal funding, welfare state collapses
>silicon valley fucks off
>troops are moved in to the valley to "facilitate trade" to keep agriculture goods moving to US
>LA dries up
>Army moves in once the state is on the brink of collapse to keep the peace and annex the state back into the Union

Secession would hurt the entire Union but I cannot fathom why shitheads in California actually think this would go over well in any way for them.

>>135280968
>regurgitating Democrat memes
Oh boy, you are completely oblivious, aren't you?

I feel nothing but pity for you.

>>135272297
Damn you stole my reply

1) CA split from USA
2) EU invites CA to join
3) CA joins the EU
>inb muh geography
(EU is NOT about geography)
4) EU now has Silicon Valley (world's most cutting edge tech in the world) and Hollywood (must effective propaganda machine)
5) USA becomes EU's cuckhold

You know this is going to happen, right?

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OC

>>135272203
>Calexit happens
>US simply needs to blockade major ports, an easy task for the largest navy in the world
>Refuse to give them water
>Liberals can no longer enjoy their self-indulgent life style
>Forced to face a harsh reality where teamwork wont make the dream work
>Millions will die, millions more will either be redpilled or will try to take revenge on the US government
Sounds good to me

>>135272846
>expecting 55 non-American seats to remain American
Not how it works, nigger.

>>135274632
Southern California is actually more conservative than the other parts. South OC is perhaps the biggest republican stronghold along with San Diego.

>>135272203
Please do, it'll guarantee a Democrat never occupies the white house again

Inb4 airliners get shot down when going out from cali.

>>135281336
>All they need is another candidate like Clinton with a platform that speaks to people to win.
To clarify, I'm talking about Bill Clinton here.

>>135281449
>t. retard
See here: >>135272642

how do you tie your shoes in the morning?

>>135273923

I, and many others fro mother states, would join your cause for Jefferson if California secedes. If Cali believes they have the right of secession, then they must recognize the right of individual counties within California to secede from their new independent nation.

>>135281401
If you come near us we will kill you all Soros shill

>>135281276
>Then there's the fact that the majority of Californians aren't armed.

no, there are about 19 million of us. smarter, better, and brighter than you all. we also have more money and guns than your poorly memed brain can understand.

if anyone is fighting in the streets in cali, it will be us. not you fucking methhead faggots talking shit from your dad's basement in ohio.

and trust us, we are more alpha and ready for it than your pathetic jewish shill asses ITT.

feel free to lend a hand. i'm sure my texas boys would want a port in SD. ya?

you jews are going to die. looking at you (((ds)))).

>>135272203
Considering I'm planning on moving there in a couple of months. FUCK YES. If I wasn't going to move there this would be terrible news because it would basically ensure that no democrat would be elected as president ever again.

>>135272642
Except the House would remain at 435 seats. California's seats would be re apportioned, with TEXAS reaping the largest share.

California's two Senate seats would go away, so the number of electoral votes would only go down by two.

>>135281276

And Mexico/China are the ones pushing for an Independant California.

Fine. Let them have their faggot state. All the leftists who hate Trump can swarm California and we can charge them for Hoover Dams energy. They don't pay up and their desert shithole dries up.

>>135281352
>I cannot fathom why shitheads in California actually think this would go over well in any way for them.

It's like an angsty teen shouting, "I'll run away and never come back" to their parents. That's all this is, though they probably have the foresight of said teen.

>>135273490
Oh no! Think of all the almonds that we won't get! The humanity!

Most of the tamer liberals will never go for it, and conservatives out here will definitely not go for it. Our state government is pants-on-head retarded and can't debate worth a fuck, but even with the dingbats by their side, they'll never succeed.

>>135272203
REMINDER THAT THEYRE MOVING FAST IN SECEEDING FROM THE US IN ORDER TO NOT GET CONVICTED. ALL THOSE UNDER INVESTIGATION WILL BE MOVING TO CALIFORNIA

>>135274398

Interesting take. I hadn't thought of it that way.

>>135272297
>Please do it. Then we can wipe them all out it the war of reconquest

Cali libs wouldn't fight, not a single shot would be fired.

TRUMP tanks would roll across the border and take over the whole state with no resistance.

truth is that if cali seceded, the average iq of the united states would drop. that is even with all the retarded illegals! it's because the white alpha right wingers in cali have iq's 2x that of methhead nazi retards in ohio.

the science proves it. it is a facet of reality.

don't hate the better man than you. that is so jewish.

>>135281471
Not disagreeing with you on that matter - but if you have taken a good look at the left side recently, you'd kinda ought to know how high the chances of that currently are. With them still devouring each other in the wake of their own identity politics, anyone with a true vision coming from that side, would need a miracle to succeed.

Please let them succeed, i want to finally move out

>>135272203
HAPENING IN HAMBURG
MAN ARMED WITH A KINFE ATTACKED PEOPLE IN SUPERMARKET KILLING ONE PERSON AND INJURING SEVERAL
MOTIVE UNKNOWN

>>135281888
checked.

it's what we voted for. but of course we get the zionist jew bullshit instead.

down the shitter goes the usa.

and with glee, the jews at (((ds))) jump for joy.

So how do we meme this into existence?

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>>135281893
your trolling game is weak
lurk more faggot

>the endless LARP thread, brought to you by 1 post by this ID.
California has a huge GDP because of the federal government. Without the rest of the states, you will get
No welfare
No farming subsidies
No federal contracts
No military
No water
No power
That means no silicon valley, no ports, no international travel.
You're also $500 billion in debt to the federal government, and can barely pay the principle. You're going to have to cut a check BEFORE divorcing the USA.

It's never going to happen, fagurts.

>>135274619

You're an idiot. Sure, there are a shit ton of border jumpers occupying positions of power. It's totally not the cucked white leftists doing it.

The Michael Scott Paper Company of California

>>135272203
These people are just ....

>>135281916

See>>135281137

But I will admit that I want the Union intact as our strength derives from it

actually it would be an economic boom if California seceded, the alternative energy sector would advance rapidly as California has to go 100% renewable, its already the world leader in almost every other field and Chinese, Russian, Europeans would all invest in a separate California sort of Like Hong Kong. Its all the shipping lane for all of California so all goods coming into the USA have to pass by it. There is no harbor in the USA that could could handle the ammuomt of trade california does.

>>135272203
I've been ready for years. Look at California and its brown/black cheap labor pool. It's a modern day South Carolina circa 1857.

Overwhelmingly dominated by extremist, racist, Democrats who rely on cheap labor from the 3rd World to keep them in their prominent positions of prosperity and power.

Trump, like Fremont and Lincoln before him, represents a direct threat to their ability to continue thriving off of what amounts to slave labor.

So of course Commiefornia would be the first state to make a move. Get ready boys, IT'S COMING.

>>1352742. Only won two counties in KY, bad map is bad

rhetorical game:

the usa has never done fuck for CA. you allowed it to be flooded with spics due to your your east coast dgaf attitude, and soon the southwest, and beloved texas is going the same route.

what makes you think if CA seceded, the usa would run to help it then?

what makes you think we would even want you to help us at that point? returning to a union with a bunch of ignorant jewish methead idiots from ohio, living in their father's basement? fuck that.

>you have never given a fuck about CA.
>why do you care now?

>>135281642
Kek, I'm curious to see how long a bunch of faggots armed with pocket knives and dildos would last against a foreign nation's army. Californians would almost immediately surrender like the cucks they are.
The only ones who might fight worth a damn would be the illegal spics in the event of Mexico annexing CA, since they broke several laws just to get away from their shitty country.

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>>135282050
america isnt responsible for california's debt

just like your fake "no state can succeed" lincoln HORSESHIT go eat some dicks your excuse for the south and your bitching was a CENTRAL BANK then that was your arguement, and it IS NOW

if people would just realize this is what your agenda is
everytime you say somethign stupid, this is what you are referring to. when people say somehting stupid
it is this exactly: a scare tactic
(what this guys doing)

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>>135282466
>who rely on cheap labor from the 3rd World to keep them in their prominent positions of prosperity and power.
buy any cheap chinese products lately?
you fucking hypocrite

>>135282050
California can print its own money like China and Japan does dude...they could even give private loans to citizens t pp encourage investments..

>>135282466
locked and loaded. targets acquired. will live stream for (you) lesser iq cucked faggots...

kiss my ass you jewish shills ITT. you die first.

>>135282692
You got a Discord man?

I'd love to invite you to the Intolerant Politics discord.

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>mfw Brexit and Trump winning means nothing is impossible
>mfw this means I might see the US losing a state

Why should we wait?
the other 47 states should just kick out CA,WA, and OR, then invade and slaughter them all.

>>135282692
Eat any California produce recently? Take that empty head of yours and cram it back up into that diseased and prolapsed anus of yours, you cock-sucking, ass-grabbing, AIDS-ridden faggot.

>>135277534
Underrated

>>135272203
people might finally see Hollywood propaganda as the foreign corrupting influence it always has been

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>>135272203
Yes.

>>135282902
If you've ever eaten
>walnuts
>kiwis
>plums
>celery
>garlic
>spinach
>carrots
you've almost certainly eaten california produce

>>135275414
>America in charge of understanding the electoral college

The House of Representatives is a proportional legislature of 435 seats, regardless of population. They stopped assigning based on a hard number years ago. 53 of the electoral votes (the ones representing the house) would be redistributed based on population. The 2 Sentorial electoral votes would disappear.

>>135282838
Secession is illegal.
A serious attempt by California is the quickest way to put the state back on the right course due to everyone responsible for fucking it up being dead.

>>135281783
>>135281352

two retards that have never left their mother's jewish basement. two nerds talking about a state that they have never been, or lived. or fought for. or had relatives die for. fucking jews.

you screech like nerds that hate a better man than you. because that is exactly what it is.

you are beta.

>>135282838
>>mfw this means I might see the US losing a state

Remember the last time states tried to leave the union? Remember how CA is trying to disarm their citizens? It could happen for maybe a week before the rest of the union takes them back to reality.

>>135283101
You fucking retard, you realize that people in this thread are claiming the dems would be finished "forever"? Not just the next election, forever. Obviously this is a retarded statement, which that map proves

If you think Florida will never go blue again, you have a hole in your head

>>135283132
lol calm down

>>135283100
>>135283143
It would be a fun week regardless.

>>135283100
Only for the founding states, California was a republic and a Mexican state before it become a US state. There could be grounds that it could be a republic again like Texas.

>>135275646
>No, because that's also 55 votes off the electoral college. Meaning now it's a contest to win 242 instead of 270

No, it's not. That's not how it works.

The number of electors is set by the number of senators plus the number of reps in the House and an additional 3 for D.C.

If Cali leaves entirely (meaning the entire current state), and there are no additional states added (e.g., Jefferson or Puerto Rico), we're looking at 98 senators.

The number of Reps is set by statute, so that doesn't change. 435 reps. All of CA's reps would be redistributed amongst the remaining states.

So the number of electors in the Electoral College drops by 2 (for the two lost senate seats). That's it.

You should really do some research if you're going to open your mouth.

>>135283277
>There could be grounds that it could be a republic again like Texas.

Texas lost that right after the civil war though.

>>135273490
>California leaves
>suddenly they realize importing a ton of illegal immigrants and being financially irresponsible is actually super fucking stupid

>>135283252
They would be because they would lose their base. They would need to win all swing states and swing tradition red states to win rather than just win 1 or two swing states. Dems would have to either drop progressivism and adopt more "conservative" positions or die out completely.

>>135283302
Learn to format your posts asshole, you're fucking it up for the rest of us who have to read your shit.
if the rest of the reps are distributed proportionally, it would be roughly the same thing as today. Just a few extra votes here and there in various states.

Dems would still have a fair shot

>>135281438
don't rain on the jefferson cucks' parade. they should have torched sacramento a long time ago. they passed the bill on to us in socal. fuck them. they don't have shit on rebel white hot shitlords in socal. they should be teaming up with us, but no. they only care about themselves, like fucking wood elves up in their forests. they didn't give a fuck about anyone but themselves, and sacramento was right under their nose for decades. cucks, all of them.

>>135283443
>>suddenly they realize importing a ton of illegal immigrants and being financially irresponsible is actually super fucking stupid

Maybe Illinois should secede too.

>>135283443
if you print your own money and don't realy on the Fed then it will work.