He's fucking done. Thank God.

>>135251485
pinya.

>>135251879
A man testified today releasing all of Putin's dirty laundry, exposing Putin as a thieving, murdering, incompetent paper tiger and robbing him of the security that allowed him to stay in power. The security of his subordinates' offshore assets is now compromised. Their business dealings exposed.

He's going to end up removed or all of them are. Depends who acts first. Depends who values life more. He's a mob boss who is no longer able to offer an umbrella of protection. He's fucked.

>>135252075
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/07/bill-browders-testimony-to-the-senate-judiciary-committee/534864/

I find this a bit worrying desu. Putin being made into a desperate man isn't a particularly good thing.

>>135252357
And here's the archive https://archive.is/9EKkj

>>135252075
A man? Or a kike?

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>Thinking this changes anything at all and the Russian people wouldn't elect another man like him.

>>135252375
Whats Norwegian for archive, brosef?

>>135252484
arkiv

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>>135251485
Link faggot.

>>135252450
It doesn't matter. The idea of Putin getting his just desserts makes me harder than the concrete he'll be buried in.

>>135252563
See >>135252357

BAIL OUT MODS ARE ON A DELETE BINGE

OUT OUT OUT

>>135252563

>>135252357
nigger

>>135252075
>>135252357
More sources. I want this to be true. This would be by far the biggest happening of 2k17 if true.

>>135252592
yeah this is sketching me out, accidental and then undone?

>>135252588
>>135252600

Oh mah bad. I'll just punch myself for that one.

So what does this mean?
He is out or will he nuke everyone because lost of power.

I don't like it when a snake is backed into a corner

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>>135251485
>>135252075
>>135252357

>>135251485
It shows how little knowledge americans have about Russia and Eastern Europe as a whole. Issues aren't solved in hearings. If Putin is done he'll remain as the figurehead if he isn't one already.

You know it's bad when you don't know if this is a slide thread or a shill thread.

Daily reminder for liberals: YOU'RE NOT WELCOME HERE

always sage & report

Whichever way Trump goes with the russian sanctions, something interesting will happen. If he vetoes them, he gives A LOT of credence to treason. If he doesn't, Putin makes a move.

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>>135252985
What's got you so upset sweetie?

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>>135253035
We're all gonna die

>>135252637
https://www.c-span.org/video/?431852-1/william-browder-overturning-magnitsky-act-putins-top-priority

Putin will just kill them
>move aling

>>135253035
>If he vetoes them, he gives A LOT of credence to treason.
how?

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>>135251485
Just another kike thread. He was one of the last things that is probably preventing the niggerization / bastardization of the west in it's entirety. What a disgusting display of bagel loving Jewry.

Only a dirty kike would celebrate his fall. If Vladimir the fuhrer is to fail, then this world will become picture related.

>>135252588
>The idea of Putin getting his just desserts makes me harder than the concrete he'll be buried in.
you are emotionally unintelligent

>>135253331
>Just another kike thread. He was one of the last things that is probably preventing the niggerization / bastardization of the west in it's entirety. What a disgusting display of bagel loving Jewry.
>Only a dirty kike would celebrate his fall.
putin is sympathetic towards jews and it is illegal in russia to deny the holocaust

>>135253346
Yes. Being delighted a psychopathic sneak-thief bastard traitor to the country he claims to lead might get comeuppance makes me emotionally unintelligent.

It's a net gain for the human race. I save my empathy for those who deserve it.

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>>135253435

>A country this big being able to deny the holocaust.

unironically retorting the point with the current year meme. It actually fucking makes double sense in this context.

>>135252978
This guy gets it

>>135253331
Buddy, Putin is controlled by a different breed of kikes. The world is a battle of Western Jews and Eastern Jews.

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>>135252509
Takk, Takk ArkivAnon.

>>135252588
Putin kept Russia weak, only retards want him gone. Imagine if Russia gets a real Nationalist in power.

>>135251485
hahahaha

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>>135253555

>>135253556
Even if this is true, the Western kike is the enemy.

>>135253555
The issue with Putin is that his deciding to push his luck has now led to all of the Russian oligarchs losing the majority of their assets. Those assets remain frozen until Putin either convinces someone to release them, or Putin is gone.

Putin only retains the power of fear. He offers nothing.

Obama of all people may have been smart enough to deal the death blow against Putin.

>>135252588
Wow its fucking nothing, thank you for providing info that makes you fantasize your insecurity in imagination

Putin cares about lifting the Magnitsky Act and its associated sanctions much more than the economic ones that were imposed after Crimea, purely because they surgically and explicitly target the people and businesses in his circle. He couldn't give less of a shit if the broader population in Russia got slammed more.

I don't know what Trump will do with this bill when it gets to his desk, because if you subscribe to the notion that Putin has something over him and there was an agreement established to do everything possible to remove these sanctions then you'd think he'll veto it immediately, but the Senate will override it. So he may be in a position where he's afforded the appearance of shedding some scrutiny and signing it as a plausible deniability type of thing, since it will be futile anyway.

I think it all comes back to sanctions though. If Putin's henchmen can't launder their (and his) money overseas, and thereby extend his influence, they have no reason to continue being loyal to him. He knows this. You would be a fool to think he didn't reach out to a man and people in his circle who have done business in his country and rubbed shoulders with his oligarchs for the last thirty years.

>>135253481
>Yes. Being delighted a psychopathic sneak-thief bastard traitor to the country he claims to lead might get comeuppance makes me emotionally unintelligent.
yes, exactly. in the real world, that is to say outside of your irrelevant geopolitical revenge fantasy, you would be hard pressed to find people with real power who are so stupid as to make emotionally unintelligent choices such as this. your philosophy is representative of a measly watcher of the world, out of many, who have strong opinions formed entirely from second hand information and informational peanuts thrown at you via news headlines and government briefings. simply put, you are a fool and you wouldn't last a moment anywhere that has stakes higher than simply getting fired

>>135253548
russia is owned by corporate oligarchs, most of which are jews. think of them as the investors of the company, putin being the CEO that listens to them and makes them happy. welcome to russia

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I fucking hate putinboos please let this happen, kremlin kikes need to burn

>>135253796
>If only Saddam is gone, stability will come
>If only Gadaffi is gone, stability will come
>If only Assad is gone, stability will come
>If only Putin is gone, stability will come

>>135253796
You actually get more delusional every new post, holy fuckin lel

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>>135253790
the russian kike is the worst kike of all, you have noooo fucking clue. Russia is responsible for all the western world's ills and you russboo faggots have been unfortunately brainwashed badly

>>135253238
Trump Jr had a meeting with the lawyer mentioned in the hearing, and it's been heavily scrutinized for possibly having a discussion on lifting sanctions against Russia. Then there's also the active FBI investigation for collusion with Russia. The new sanctions were passed by democrats and republicans alike.

Then Trump goes ahead and vetoes it. Why would he do that? So he can form a better relationship with Russia? The guy knows what that would look like and there isn't a good enough reason apart from him doing the bidding of Putin.

>>135253936
yeah a lot will happen when the good goy gets displaced. maybe then a real zionist will get another opportunity at holodomor 2

>>135254029
You probably think Merkel is a better leader don't you?

Enjoy your refugee and nigger cocks when Europe looks like Somalia. lol

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>some guy appears and confirms to everyone that yes, putin is evil and we must stop his hacking

>>135253942
>>135254000
Is that how every hilly billy in US?

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>>135253556
There is no divide between kikes, Any divide you see is only superficial. Kikes always play both sides of the board to achieve their goals.

>>135254096
Well, it has nothing to directly do with the hacking. It's more that Putin has a decent poker face, but the US has him by the balls in a really glorious way.

Wonder what happens if the US decides to liquidate those frozen assets.

>>135254090
no I don't actually you retard, I'm an american patriot against Russia faggot, I voted Trump. FUck Russia you have no idea what Russia has done and is doing, currently arming and training antifa in western europe

>>135254168
My cousin had such a collection of old Mad Magazines. How many hours I spent reading the Spy vs. Spy while waiting for the family dinner.

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Russia has never, will never, be a friend of the west or America, we westerners will always be adversaries with Russia no matter how much kremlin kike shillin you faggots fall for.

>>135251485
>>135252075
Russians don't care. And even if they did, they have never, ever, ever, ever in all history been capable of developing a functioning civic culture, and they've probably only gotten even further than that since Putin stepped in.

When Putin dies or otherwise is no longer in power, I think it's more likely Russia will get even more corrupt and dictatorial. Your idea that "leader did something bad and will get in trouble" is something that happens in functioning societies. Not Russia.

>>135251485
Oh really.I wonder what happens when he and Trump got reelected.Mass suicide ?

>>135253331
>putin is preventing the niggerization / bastardization of the west
Kek what made up reality are you living in? Putin has allowed millions of non white central asians into his country.

>>135254054
>Trump Jr had a meeting with the lawyer mentioned in the hearing, and it's been heavily scrutinized for possibly having a discussion on lifting sanctions against Russia.
this veto wouldn't lift sanctions, it would keep them from happening.
>Then there's also the active FBI investigation for collusion with Russia.
mueller's investigation is irrelevant to what trump does or does not do with russia. correlation does not mean causation. also, trump does not have to prove his innocence. he can veto anything he wants no matter if it's about russia or not.
>The new sanctions were passed by democrats and republicans alike.
so? it isn't just "new sanctions" either. it's a bill loaded with other things that treats the presidential position as something that has to answer to what the senate wants. the bill is going to get vetoed because of this

in conclusion, a guilty verdict would prove the veto to be potentially biased. however there is no guilty verdict, so all anyone can do is pull off some bogus correlation = causation argument like they're conspiracy theorist first timers. waste of time to worry about it

>>135254298
Russia has been friends with the US a number of times during the era where we had Nation States. You might like to learn your history.

>>135253331
>bribes Czechens to stop bullying russians
Le white saviour

>>135254188
>shit that has already happened: the post
The EU is going to tell you to fuck off and keep buying cheap Russian shit over expensive American you redneck retard

>>135253331
Don't listen too much to LARPers like this. Russians are not western, don't particularly LIKE the west, and the alternative they hold to has hugely underperformed the west for at least about 4 centuries straight now. This supposedly "traditional" society has much higher violent crime rates than any light skinned western country, much more corruption, debilitating alcoholism, and a continuing tradition of white girls getting knocked up before finishing high school. It is a truly afflicted society that never really recovered from communism.

>>135254054
This is very very interesting now

It might be putting this into context
>>134410098

Trump is now damned if he does not support sanctions - (why would he be motivated to help a kleptocratic dictator like Putin)

and he is damned if he does (Putin may react with desperation).

It would be good if there were a third way exonerating Trump from the Russia ties, and allowing him to buy time over the sanctions.

After all, desperate men are dangerous, and they both have nukes.

>>135254490
>Russia has been friends with the US a number of times during the era where we had Nation States. You might like to learn your history.
>friends
you mean geopolitical goal cooperators sometimes

>>135254594
>that never really recovered from communism.
that never really recovered from Jewish communism.

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>>135253331
Because Putin is a known anti-semite, right

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>>135251485
>>135252075
>>135252357
>Bill Browder
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Browder
>Bill Browder, born into a notable Jewish family in Chicago, is the grandson of Earl Browder, the former leader of the Communist Party USA,[2] and the son of Eva (Tislowitz) and Felix Browder, a mathematician
>William Felix Browder (born 23 April 1964) is the Chief Executive Officer and co-founder of the investment fund Hermitage Capital Management

Someone give me a rundown on why communist kikes end up managing billions?

>>135253331
sadly a lot of pol actually believe in this type of putin, you guys are worst than blue-pilled, you are slavvodkanigger-pilled. absolutely heretic. Russia is the biggest enemy of the civilized western world there is, they are responsible for the kikery and communism and leftist bullshit that pluages the world over. they arm and train antifa and shill for conservatives, they play both sides you idiots don't see it though

>>135254654
m8, that's the definition of friends in geo-politics

>>135254654
>you mean geopolitical goal cooperators sometimes
Yes. Rational actors.

No need for these Satanic Jewish Trotskyiets to pit us to war.

>>135254628
http://archive.is/vBtpm
Archiv

some say Putin was in reality always from the russian peace dove faction.....There are real russian war hawks out there who would fill the power void if Putin is gone. Russian McCains if you will.
Putin haters, there will come a time when you will miss him

>>135254628
>Trump is now damned if he does not support sanctions - (why would he be motivated to help a kleptocratic dictator like Putin)
read the bill you want him to sign. they loaded it with junk to trap him into looking bad if he vetoed it - it's a purely political bill so it's going to have a purely political outcome for the MSM to parade for a few weeks and smear trump some more. that's the whole point of it and you're acting like it really matters or changes minds that aren't already made up. of course he's going to veto the thing.

>It would be good if there were a third way exonerating Trump from the Russia ties, and allowing him to buy time over the sanctions.
luckily you aren't a strategist otherwise we would probably be in an even worse defensive situation in the white house than we are now

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>>135254594
>Russians are not western, don't particularly LIKE the west,
True
>crime rates than any light skinned western country, much more corruption, debilitating alcoholism, and a continuing tradition of white girls getting knocked up before finishing high school. It is a truly afflicted society that never really recovered from communism.
Lol

>>135254727
>No need for these Satanic Jewish Trotskyiets to pit us to war.
who do you think putin answers to?

>>135254802
everyones as strategist anon.
I will start my strategy by consulting your opinion on what you think a sound approach would be, to this paradox.

>>135254380
Putin is responsible for the deaths of countless Russian patriots who attempted to fight his brand of bullshit and restore honor and integrity to their country instead of playing along with the corruption.

I believe the Russian people would be capable of better if they had the chance.

>>135254802
i mean we as in our government

Americans are the most uneducated and ignorant people. It's funny to see their dumb perspective of the world.
This thread proves it

>>135254848
I don't make a big study of whom Putin answers to. As long as he is a capable statesmen, I appreciate his world contribution.

Going forward, we will at some point have to invent something new. But for now it's good to keep an even keel.

>>135254298
>has never
You confuse the Historic Russia with kike filled British Empire and Turkey-loving France

>>135251485
Sage. Nothing will happen. You all realise the man is basically god in Russia to the Russians right?

>>135254901
>I will start my strategy by consulting your opinion on what you think a sound approach would be, to this paradox.
veto it and deal with more MSM campaigning using it as fresh ammo. all it would do is reinforce the people who already made their minds up. a good argument can be made as to why it was vetoed. it isn't a complicated situation. the problem is we let it pass the senate in the first place

>>135254628

They gave Trump an excuse to get out of responsibility, because his veto would have no effect.

>>135252075
>implying any of this will hurt putin

the sheepale of the backwards R will continue to worship the ground he walks on, and anyone who is a threat to him will simply be taken care of or unable to make any groundbreaking progress. This won't do a dam thing to hurt him.

He could kill someone on live tv and his people would praise him and say the person was an enemy of the state.

>implying
If the US keeps on trying to punish Russia you're going to see a Russo-Sino alliance in the next 5 years

>>135254912
Kill yourself you ignorant American. NATO is the main culprit in destabilizing Europe and the ME.
Putin with Iran won the Syrian war and that makes you retards mad.
You are done for. Eurasia will be a counterweight to American hegemony.
Putin is the leader of the free world

>>135254976
horrible deflect low iq vodka nigger fag

>>135253331
Wow you are right. Full of shills today. Why are they so obvious? Shareblue suck my fat cock and die already.

>>135255101
HAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA thanks for the good laugh, you are what pure retardation looks like if you think Russia is the leader of the free world.

0.0 Rubbles have been deposited into your farm account

>>135253796
Why do Russophobes have little understanding of Russia?

>>135254963
this is ultimately true, we have taken advantage of the stability putin presents in some regions of europe to further our own geopolitical agenda

>>135254298
Putin pushed for friendship with the west for years and it only went to shit when Obongo decided to “contain” Rus then China.

>>135252075
>>135252357
Russians wouldn't care if this Browder fuckboi had a sudden half-life of several hours.

>>135253481
Reddit spacing. Just go back already faggot you are too obvious

>>135255123
Says the American lmao
From my RL experience, Americans are drooling retards who talk incoherent ignorant crap. Shoot your birds in Kentucky and stay ignorant

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Putin is the savior. Hate him all you want, he will find a way around this.

Now go to bed cucks, you are keeping your wives boyfriends up you fat bearded nigger lovers. lol

>>135255212
Because they are the offspring of Trotskyite Jews who got purged out of Russia after the Bolshevick Revolustion and seethe about not having their Jewish Central Bank back in power over it.

>>135255256
BUT MUH RUSSIA

MUH RUSSIA CONSPIRACY

MUH BASED BLACKS WILL IMPEACH 2 SCOPS DRUMPFFUCK WHITE PEOPLE

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>>135254811
Just one of MANY examples attached. Name a single majority-white country that has a murder rate higher than Russia. Even also-fucked-up-Ukraine manages to do better. (And, don't get me wrong, Ukraine is a corrupt, impoverished, crime-ridden shithole that ALSO never recovered from communism.)

>>135255021
My strategy would be to delay this decision to buy time, since outcomes are suboptimal.

As I originally posted, he is damned either way.

> Needs to clear his name over time conclusively proving that he wasn't working with Russians during the campaign
> Continue to throw shit at his opponents via Judicial process. If Hillary is half as bad as half of the US believe then some form of wikileaks is required
> Leave the bill unsigned to maintain leverage over Putin. Get something for it. Take your pick what that might be. Knowing Trump it will be towards peace in the Middle East.

>>135255201

Go back to Ukraine and work in poroshenkos candy company earning 59 euro a month

>>135255236
>hurr duur muhh reddit

why

are

you

so

obsessed

with

reddit?


not

a

healthy

obsession

Anways, can't wait until Russion economic collapse within the next 1 or 2 years.

>>135253663
yes ww3 happens .

>>135255375
>no arguments
>starts shit posting
Who fucked your mom last night?

>>135254912
I wish you were right, but historically, they are not capable of better. I was just about to type that Russian people do well outside of Russia, but then I remembered how shitty the Russian transplants in the Baltics can be toward Baltic people, so, scratch that.

If anything, they're capable of worse. You aren't appreciating just how broken, messed-up, and backwards this place can be.

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By golly what could have inspired this (((sudden act of heroism)))
>https://thedailycoin.org/2017/07/25/russians-add-official-gold-while-china-hides-more-gold/
>https://smaulgld.com/russia-gold-reserves-june-2017/
>http://galacticconnection.com/russia-china-declare-all-out-war-on-us-petrodollar-prepare-for-exclusive-trade-in-gold/
>http://www.commoditytrademantra.com/gold-trading-news/china-russia-energy-business-transactions-in-gold-threaten-the-petrodollar/
>http://af.reuters.com/article/commoditiesNews/idAFEON45ZB4D
>http://www.livetradingnews.com/russia-china-setting-transact-energy-business-gold-48528.html

>Americans keep saying Russia will collapse soon everyday since the last 4 years

>meanwhile Russia economy keeps growing

>>135255012
Yup, Russia have never NOT had God-level emperors or dictators. They don't even comprehend the idea of not having one. It's built into their culture.

>>135255329
And the reason wikileaks would work is because they are a sound indirect strategy.
A third party (like Bill Browder) should be dealt with by another third party (like WIkileaks).
He needs to tie his opponents to the Russians too.
If he can implement the other side and get out of the firing line then surely he should be able to complicate matters enough to delay signing.
And with the uncertainty around delaying would gain leverage over Putin.

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>>135254679

>>135254188
why are democrats so deranged?

>>135255442
>hurr durr I had an argument
no you didn't, you complained about your dear reddit. Go fuck your mom's son

>>135255538
take of your flag you faggot, Russia will collapse, they just collapsed less than 30 years ago lol

>>135255545
Says the retard who cas his president god emperor
How do you even manage to get out of your bed without mommy's help you drooling retard?

>>135252075
What. Did you use the wrong picture or something? Putin is for life.

Russia is against homo propaganda and rejects the niggerfication of europe. That's why many good people see an ally in Putin. Jews and faggots hate him with a passion (ITT).
Russia would never have a nigger or a dumb bitch as president like the US did (and germany does), they aren't in moral decay, the west is.

>8 posts by this IDiot
>no sources

Well, it's a /pol/ happening alright...

So Putin was the jew all along.

Hitler was right, slavs are subhuman filth and will be purged in nuclear fire.

>>135251485
>>135252075
Russians don't give a single fuck though. They care that he's giving them more territory. They don't give a shit about muh living standards, muh squeaky clean President, they care about victories and Putin's giving them day after day.

>>135255329
he doesn't need to clear his name. you're the kind of person who said shelling syria was the ultimate exoneration but it wasn't. at this point it doesn't matter. veto the thing and move on like all the other times. they only have public smear campaigns against him, something that has its own strategy to fight agaist: the term "fake news".

no strategy is useful if it relies on external intervention like wikileaks unless we decide to leak something to them ourselves which is a bad idea considering the investigations soon to happen in regards to the DNC.

if trump wanted sanctions to use as leverage over putin he would get sanctions on his own terms, not hover a pen over a bill that simultaneously weakens the position of the president.

you can call him damned all you want but if you're going to you might as well just say him winning damned him. that's when the pre-planned russian smear campaign started by the DNC. it was part of their strategy if losing

>>135252357
You'll never be bootin' the Putin.

>>135255232
Clinton plotted to undermine and encircle Russia (admittedly almost none of this was while Putin was in charge). Bush had essentially the same attitude. Both presidents stuck their neck out and risked the integrity of NATO to box Russia in, which is a strategy that Putin is, ironically, shoving right up our ass now.

Obama wanted to continue that strategy, but, was too inept to succeed. If anything, the containment strategy fell apart under Obama, although not due to Obama's intentions.

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>>135255677
are you sure about that?

>ameriniggers thinking their silly shitshow of a politics has any influence in russia
lel

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>>135252075
All that and still nothing on Trump/Russia collusion.

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>>135255635
>>135255635
>Hahaha hahah Russia will collapse anytime soon xDD

>>135253435
>putin is sympathetic towards jews
He's just collecting shekels

>it is illegal in russia to deny the holocaust
Yeah because Russia fought the Nazis, and was complicit in fabricating the Holocaust hoax.

>>135255746
All of which operated under Ziggy B's geopolitical strategy, except they were nut job satanists where Zig was just a knee-jerk Russophobe.

Sad.

>>135253556
>The world is a battle of Western Jews and Eastern Jews.
Nice try Shlomo, the Jew plays both sides of the game.

>>135254912
>restore honor and integrity
>restore

They never had it OP.

>>135255800
>All that and still nothing on Trump/Russia collusion.
Probably within the next year there will be some real material for collusion. We're still in the nothingburger phase. But later on tt's going to be fun, no doubt.

>>135253331
Putin pls

>>135253556
all jews have their own political or ideological agendas but ultimately they share the same philosophy that makes them jews to begin with. just because you agree with a jew, doesn't mean they're doing it to agree with you. jew is synonymous with betrayer

>>135255934
Whatever helps you sleep at night, cupcake.

>>135255934
>pure dreams
>pure specualtion
>pure record skipping
Keep dreaming and repeating the same "something soon, any minute now" while America gets made great again.

What happened?!

>>135255591
>>135255635
>>135255771
http://www.worldbank.org/en/country/russia/publication/rer

Amidst weakening external headwinds, rising oil prices, and growing macro-stability, the Russian economy showed encouraging signs of overcoming the recession it entered in 2014.
Headline economic and financial trends and indicators are improving.
In Russian regions, adjustment has taken place through massive expenditure cuts, as opposed to revenue mobilization, with social sectors and capital spending hit the hardest.
The government passed a three-year federal budget law and introduced currency interventions in the domestic market.
Consumption is expected to drive growth in 2017-2019, with investment playing a supporting role.
How does it feel being a drooling retard?

>OP won't even answer the coward her is
Lmao

>>135256042
>>135256065
All I'm saying is that sometime withing the next year we should be seeing some good geopolitical thinkers come on board. Bannon alone won't do it.

Or, if they don't, it will just turn open the soft underbelly that is our modern-day thinktank losers.

>>135253331
I agree based anon.

Everyone to the center of america now! DC via russia and california via norkor

>>135255934
Yeah I'm sure. Keep having those dreams sweetie.

>>135256132
DRUMPF BTFO XDDOKAFOFKOWAAXPDDDDX XDDD YASS SLAY QUEEN!!!!

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> TFW every other majority-white country on the planet has a lower murder rate than yours
> TFW even some African countries have lower murder rate than yours
> Backward islamic camelfuckers are richer and safer than you are
> fucking ARGENTINA looks wealthy, safe, and lawful compared to you

Russia is just a wee bit dysfunctional. Putin being corrupt does NOT have the same consequences it would have in a western country. Russian people don't expect any different.

OP ran away after i posted sources proving him wrong

Hahaha hahaha hahahahah

Sage this shit thread

>>135255719
My strategy would probably work, although I take your points.

However, I think bludgeoning forward and simply vetoing a bill is unecessary right now.

I think Legerdemain is required to not sign the bill as it is - I think the best outcome for Trump is as follows:-

> Instead of being implicated in supporting Russia, show how his opponents were supporting Russia

> Instead of signing or not signing the bill now, delay signing while opponents are made to look bad

> Instead of signing the Bill as is, pass it back for changes due to opponents position complicating matters (demand a wider investigation). At the same time obtain some form of concession during the delay from Putin during the uncertainty.

Lets see how he moves.

If you ever fancy a game of chess, desu, I would be happy to teach you a thing or two sometime.

>>135256290
:)

>>135256307
Well, the reality is, foreign powers (who are not our friend) interfere in US elections and 2016 was no exception. My guess is we'll find out the Dems were playing footsie with Ukranians, which is what the FusionGPS scandal implies. And just because they're enemies with Putin does NOT mean Ukranians are our friends, or, that they would be a good ally to have.

>>135251485
This won't change a thing. Huilo will still continue to fuck Russia up the ass, and the world will still love him for it.
The only way to change things is to string him up along with his shadow buddies in Brussels and Washington.

>>135256192
Would still better live in Russia than in your Nigger infested shithole which is crumbling

>>135256307
>Instead of being implicated in supporting Russia
your whole strategy relies on this concept but unfortunately he already has been implicated in such a thing, multiple times. giving them what they wan't isn't considered defeatist if what they're purporting is completely false to begin with

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>>135256439
agreed.

I think we will find the Ukranians and the Dems are trying to make Russia look bad. What was that IP address again ;-)

>>135256509
tfw i put an apostrophe in want

>>135256456
That's why white people leave western countries to go to Russia and Russians NEVER leave Russia to settle in the West.

Oh, wait, the reality is the exact opposite of the above? That's weird, I guess all those people didn't get your message yet.

>>135252357
>theatlantic

Russians don't read that, and non-russians already dislike Putin, so I see no big change.

>>135256523
He is a drooling dumbass tho
Has no political charisma at all

>>135256509
Whatevs - some people are close minded I guess.
Oh and there are messanic Jews to your other thread - do you think they are betrayers as well?

Remember God has always kept a remnant.

This Browders guy dodged taxes, got sued by government and now tries his best to be seen as anything other as a criminal he is. I doubt anyone in Russia will care, it is obvious he is interested party.

>>135256557
lol it would be petit to comment on things like that.

its how some people say it though.

>>135251485
says increasingly nervous guy

>>135252357
I hope he nukes the fuck out of USA before he goes. Now that would be a good riddance.

>>135256572
>That's why white people leave western countries to go to Russia and Russians NEVER leave Russia to settle in the West.
This is actually happoening
Especially Germans are doing that, in direction to eastern Europe.
Not en masse yet but it's happening. I know no one who even goes to the US on holidays.
Why would they? The US is filthy.

I know no one who

>>135256647
i'm not close minded, you're just trying to give a complicated answer to a very non complicated question

if you want a theological or spiritual debate go into the christian megathreads where your observations have been thoroughly addressed

>>135256523
Literally a liberal cuck LMFAO

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>>135251485
>>135252075

Our main liberal anti-Russian media CT24 isn't even picking on it so that 'man' is probably hardcore irrelevant

>>135256456
And /pol/tards unironically believe this...

remember putin is /our/ guy

>>135254380
>This
Just nuke us already.

>>135256799
They had this as plan b all along.

I hope they get Podesta for trying to stitch up Trump in the Russia collusion.

Compared to american shitshow, russia is a prime example of decency and culture. All you rednecks can just suck his cock.

>>135254054
You're assuming the voters want a hostile relationship with Russia. Why would we?

>>135256816
we see things differently - I am looking for a third way and you are looking for the lesser of two evils.

anyway I enjoyed the discussion.

>>135256898
Americans are ignorant
They really are the dumbest posters on this board

>>135251485
>>135252075
>>135252357
Literally nobody cares, the only way you gonna get rid of Putin is by killing him, some scandal, some international court, some made-up kike-invented crisis ain't gonna do shit. This man has real power. Stalin killed millions of his own people and gutted his own administration several times and he stayed in power till his last breath.

>>135257025
>the only way you gonna get rid of Putin is by killing him

Yes, that's what is likely to happen if all is as it seems.

>some scandal
Putin is the US's bitch right now. That's the scandal. The leader of Russia is America's bitch. And now America knows it.

>>135256898
You're an ancap talking about russian culture. Just please don't.

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>>135256898
>>135257038
Stop hiding behind your meme flags diaspora scum

>>135256898
>russia is a prime example of decency and culture
wew lad
Strong propaganda =/= decency and culture

>>135256307
At one point, there was literally nothing wrong with supporting Russia. One thing to keep in mind is that Russia and America, were, prior to the Communist Revolution, fairly decent allies. Hell, in an ideal world, America's support of Russia during their revolution would have been stronger. It may have prevented WWII. I'd argue that without the commies rising to power in Russia in 1917, there'd be no failed German revolution, and without a failed German revolution, there would probably be no Hitler. With no commie revolution and with no Hitler, there would be no WWII.

People often blame Germany for starting WWII. Although they are at fault for allying with the Middle East in WWI, Central and Eastern Europe was bound to develop beliefs that led to WWII after the commies took power in Russia. If the commie rise to power was prevented, there probably wouldn't have been a WWII.

>>135257196
As someone who wishes the best for current day Russia, I can honestly say that I don't think they're a prime example of "decency and culture." Rather, they're the example of a country that is attempting to heal after the effects of communism.

>>135257135
>Putin is the US's bitch right now. That's the scandal. The leader of Russia is America's bitch. And now America knows it.
That Atlantic article alleges that Russia is using Americans as their puppets for their geopolitical goals which is the exact opposite of what you're saying.

>>135256873
no
>>135254380
fuck off, kike cunt, from the Ural westward Russia is ethnically european and has contributed to the advancement of civilization and the white race. If other eastern euros are capable of creating decent democratic states - Hungary, Poland, Slovenia, Kek republic, etc, then so are russians.

>>135252075
>A man testified today releasing
Funny how you didn't mention the name
Now that I saw the article, I know it'd just US propaganda

That's the guy who invented the collusion story on all western papers

>>135254912
Russian people will LITERALLY kill you with nukes if given the chance.

The second leading party behind Putin is literal communists, followed by ultranationalists. Mccain is going to hell and you will join him soon once your pathetic brains are splattered over the gulag salt mines once they get built here.

>>135257336
True, but there is a certain someone in charge of the country constantly tearing the stiches out, you could say.
Huilo wants power and wealth, and nothing else. He would gladly replace all ethnic Russians with churkas instantly if he could, if that meant lining his pockets even more.

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>>135255123
The British Empire allowed the Balkans to fall into the Turkish hands and had nonwhite immigration SINCE THR 1750s. A SUBHUMAN JEW PM Benjamin Disraeli.

Fucking France had nonwhite immigration since Napoleon
>>135256834
Not really, but he's more useful for the future than Putin that's for sure. As far as the modern Russian "state" goes it's that very interesting case when EU, USA, Ukrainian government and Russian government all are the enemy of the ethnic Russians. (((Russian government))) interests are not the interests of the ethnic Russians.

Very much alike to the Soviet Union, Russian Federation does not represent the interest of the ethnic Russians. Nor the said Federation is run by them.

"At the first free and honest elections they'll vote for the nationalists and hang us all" - Armenian Jew Margarita Simonyan, RT director

The Russian Federation is a legal state successor of the USSR and thusly illegitimate. Unless Russian Federation renounces every legal connection and historical connection to the USSR it's pretty much a non-country.

Putin is a president of untermenschen.

The Russian Federarion is like welfare state taken to ethnic collectivist level - taxes from ethnic Russian areas go to feed gook and mudslime republics.

Dropping them off and developing slowly is the only way. Russia has no man power or financial resources for imperial ambition(nor a public desire for it for that matter). Russians want to live in peaceful homogenous country, where they are not afraid for tomorrow fiscal stability and their kids safety. There is no money for quality healthcare, yet public expensive shows like Olympics and FIFA are thrown.

There are only two ways - peaceful ethnic balkanisation on model of Czechoslovakia and steady growth like in Poland and Czech Republic, or another financially atrocious clusterfuck of break away like happened with the USSR.

>>135257525
>Russian people will LITERALLY kill you with nukes if given the chance.
Naw. Every Russian I've met has been a good dude. Helped one guy grammar-correct his job application in English once. I only wish them the best.

>>135256523
Wer hat dir den diese Fisimatenten indoktriniert?

>>135257641
You don't know Russians.

>>135257535
Yeah that's how I know you're a liberal. You want to destroy your country.

>>135257535
>Unless Russian Federation renounces every legal connection and historical connection to the USSR it's pretty much a non-country
I don't think it's even a possibility at this point. Just look at the military parades every year, the symbols, and the history you are being thought in schools. It is pretty much entirely Soviet in origin.

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>>135251485
>In 2010, I traveled to Washington and told Sergei Magnitsky’s story to Senators Benjamin Cardin and John McCain
>McCain
Stopped reading here.

Oh no, we have corrupt officials, who could have thought.

>>135257745
Wtf i hate Russians now!

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Just in
IT'S HAPPENING

FINALLY PUTIN IS DOING SOMETHING AGAINST THAR BILL

USA BTFO

THEY POKED THE BEAR

>>135257526
I'm sure you know more about the politics of the region than I do, since you're more local, and I'll respect that, but as an outsider, I'd argue that compared to what the world has seen post WWI, it's a step in the right direction. Admittedly, I'm somewhat fond of Russia now that they're using the white Russian flag.

>constantly tearing the stiches out
If you're specifically referring to Putin and referencing the argument that he's attempting to "recapture the glory of the USSR" I don't think you're insane, since I think the Holodomor was a more serious crime than what the Germans did in WWII.

>>135257865
Overthrow Putin and elect a Soviet-Era Communist or Ultranationalist take his place.

I want to see the faces of libtards as their disney-esque delusions get literally melted off their faces in nuclear hellfire.

>>135252075
>>135252357
Polonium will solve this.

>>135257336
This is a very good point, and in fairness to Russia, I do think they've made some (mixed) steps forward since the end of full-communism, especially obvious if you look at Moscow's wealth. And many countries that abandon communism fail to recover for a long time. Even the "success stories" of the 90s did not look like they were doing that well at first - and they weren't even communist for nearly as long as Russia had been, so, that might have given them an advantage.

I've said a lot of unkind things about Russian culture in this thread, but if you judge them by 1917 standards, they don't look so bad. Lot of catching up to do though and a lot of it just isn't happening yet.

Communism. Not even once.

>>135257352
My dear german friend. We probably could but we won't. People are sedated and are not willing to think for themselves due to nanny-state mentality. In Russia we have this word "aвocь" it can loosely be translated as 'i hope i'll get lucky but i don't really care'...
Also this
>The Russian Federarion is like welfare state taken to ethnic collectivist level - taxes from ethnic Russian areas go to feed gook and mudslime republics. Dropping them off and developing slowly is the only way.

>>135257352
I didn't say they're not capable, I just observed that it hasn't really happened to date. When/if it does happen, it will obviously not be due to them imitating the shitshow they have going on right now.

>>135257336
>that is attempting to heal after the effects of communism.
Buy puting communist in every government position? Pls.

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>>135254188
Wonder what happens if he plays rattle-the-markets by creating conflict and the price of those crazy amounts of gold him and China bought over the last years rises further.
He is playing divide and conquer with your murrican mongs, I actually admire him for fucking you subhumans up that easily.
>divide and conquer

>>135258550
I'm trying to have positive thoughts towards your country. But your post is just making me remember that the commies won in your country, despite having help of its allies. The Germans didn't have that luxury, despite the commies in their country being supported by Russia. Talk to me 80 years ago and I'll tell you that your country, as well as the people supporting the system of government, should be removed from this planet.

>>135258067
That's your answer for everything.

>>135253796
Oy vey, those poor hard-working oligarchs that lost their hard earned shekels due to bloody tyrant Putin! Not like literally every single (((millionaire))) and (((billionaire))) in Russia has blood on hands up to the elbow since 90s or anything of course, it's all that damn Putin.

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>>135253481
>Human race

Anti gays send my pedo detector through the roof

>>135255827
They have way better GDP and reserves.

>>135259070
Definitely true. And so the thing I was pointing out is that Putin no longer holds as much value to all the other criminals. His territorial interests sabotaged all of their financial interests.

>>135259217
Nothing new, he gained power and respect of the people by jailing (((oligarchs))) that ruled the country in 90s, so if he acts against them again, he would only get more popular.

>>135257785
Russian Fedeartion is not even a country. Legal heir of the USSR, a fucking Red ISIS so to speak

>>135257836
>Just look at the military parades every year, the symbols, and the history you are being thought in schools. It is pretty much entirely Soviet in origin.
So you purge it all and lustrate the commies/tolerasts/federative dogs

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>>135259401
Yep. And so there's the precedent there that if Putin starts feeling his position becoming less secure, he may selectively target them. And with the issue on the table regarding the frozen assets, I can see the very real possibility of one or more of them trying something before that can happen.

Things may get very messy. I guess the best possible outcome is they all eat one another.

>>135257785
He's that autistic """german""" larping as Russian nationalist.

>>135259600
I guess civil war in Russia would indeed be the best possible outcome for US.

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>>135259600
You must be new to talking to Russians on the chans over the years.

>>135259477
Anti-soviet communism (very different from the Cultural Marxism of the West) is synonymous with Russophobia and is a mental disease that is nationally prevalent in the Butthurt Belt (Baltics, Poland, Ukraine) and in descendants of Tsarists that would have had their country remain a feudal shithole if they could keep their orgies and gay bars running.

>>135259730
>civil war
>in Russia
Pick one, vatnik. A nation with nuclear arsenal doesn't get civil wars. Besides any German in Russia is way more Russian than any Asian subhuman like you ever will be, Taras Cuckmambetov

>>135259730
Oligarchs have no support though, I'd assume. Aside from I guess mercenary armies. You're not telling me there's some retards that would support a bunch of feudalist scum?

>>135259888
Yep, the same autist alright.

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>>135259783
>Anti-soviet communism (very different from the Cultural Marxism of the West) is synonymous with
Synonymous with not being a nigger lover

USSR WASN'T PRO-WHITE OR PRO-EUROPEAN

If you like or support the Soviet Union = you sucked off a nigger

(((USSR)))

A quick rundown

Making propaganda films about interracial adoption IN 1936

funding (((Civil Rights))) in the US

funding and arming Mandela terrorists

funding anti-racist anti-colonialist groups in Europe.

(((USSR))) CÜCKPOSTED IRL:

"Circus" (Russian: Циpк; translit. Tsirk) is a 1936 Soviet melodramatic comedy musical film.

Orlova plays an American circus artist who, after giving birth to a black baby (played by James Lloydovich Patterson), immediately becomes a victim of racism and is forced to stay in the circus, but finds refuge, love and happiness in the USSR. Her black son is embraced by friendly (((Soviet))) people.

>Soviet Jewnion was so ((((((((based)))))))

Soviets were the first to came up with making IR relationship films and importing nigges en masse

Commie sympathetic scum, go and adopt a nigger

Because it's 1936

>>135259888
But Communism Collapsed for you in the 90's, and no nuked we're launched. Surely your Leaders aren't so selfish they would rather Nuke their own Country or others than doing nothing?

>>135259973
Lmao you have no idea how propaganda works do you. Then again, I guess this is just the nature of a German born post-1945.

>>135252075
In the testimony he talked about Putin playing both sides. The media is focused on muh Russia narrative and to speak on Browder's testimony will completely destroy that notion. In essence Putin protected what really matters with some bs collusion story because our leftist media will gets their orders from losers.

>>135259888
>A nation with nuclear arsenal doesn't get civil wars.
>what is Chechnya