The 2nd Amendment Needs To Be Changed

>>135220887
Let Americans govern their own country.

>>135220887
>leafposting

>>135220988
I agree with you, I am simply suggesting some positive changes to their legislation which would make their country a much better place.

>>135220887
Im sorry but what was the current year?

>>135220887
piss off leaf. keep your trudeau tainted hands off my point and shooties.

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>>135220887
fuck off leaf

>>135220887
>The 2nd Amendment Needs To Be Changed
Then hold a Constitutional convention and change it.

Until then shut the fuck up.

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Fuck off commie Canuck you posted this shit earlier.

Shall not be infringed

>>135220887
tl;dr bro
Fuck all that noise. Flood the market with killing instruments and lets have at it

Typical shity leaf thread.

Saged.

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>>135220887
>By banning assault rifles, we would be able to prevent a lot of the senseless gun violence happening in America.
We already tried that in America, didn't work.

>>135220887
>I would like to see all assault weapons banned under the 2nd amendment
I would like to see you hang yourself from the nearest tree, but I guess that won't happen either.

t. restricted gun owner, Canada.

Go fuck yourself.

>>135220887
Fuck off, leaf

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>>135220887

fuck off Leaf.

You god damn monkey lover.

Can't wait for Lord Trump to have us burn your nigger loving house down.

Fucking leaf

A commie leaf....who would have thought.

Day of the rake will be soon.


Kek wills it

>>135220988
I don't think he knows we can see country flags.

>>135220887
bait thread, also you are a faggot leaf, also saged, also there have been 0 mass shootings that weren't planned by the CIA

One of these days, I'm going to get the chance to actually shoot someone who wants to take away my ar15 or ak. I will sleep like a baby that night.

>saged

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>>135221101
>just noticed we have country flags

>>135220887
first of all im a gun owner

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>>135220887
Typical commie countryman. I hope you get a fucking bullet between the eyes you nigger loving faggot.
Herb this thread. You know what to write and where.

>>135220887
>First of all, I would just like to say that I am a proud gun owner and I strongly support the 2nd amendment.
> Give the government the ability to take firearms from whoever, whenever, and for any reason.

I strongly support an amendment to ban users with an IQ below 70 from posting.

>>135220887
>"The Right to Bare Arms" is incredibly unspecific and leaves a lot of questions floating around.
No it doesn't.

All arms are explicitly the right of private citizens to own.

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>shall
>not
>be
>infringed

Pic related

>>135220887
Stopped reading at point 3
Taking guns away for no reason. What's the point of the amendment at all? It sounds like you just want a permit to be able to get a gun that the gov can take away if they feel like it.

>>135220887
>The world, America specifically, is a completely different place today in 2017 then it was in 1791
No it is not, the technology is different but the world is the same. Also why should anyone care what a Canadian thinks about our constitution? Oh right, we shouldn't. Fuck your own country up asshole.

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>>135220887
You wanna know what used to be our second amendent?

"The Evangelical-Lutheran religion is the state's public religion. The inhabitants who practice it are obliged to raise their children in the same. Jesuits and monk orders may not be tolerated. Jews are excluded from access to the Kingdom."

>>135220887
take your bait to k

fuck off leaf, worry about your own shit.

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>>135220887
Hey Canada go suck your gay presidents cock and stop trying to tell a far superior country what to do.

>>135220887
>By banning assault rifles, we would be able to prevent a lot of the senseless gun violence happening in America.
Most firearm murders are with pistols
>minimum age for firearm ownership.
Parental supervision.
>give the government the ability
Individuals don't commit genocide or democide. Governments do.

Fuck off leafnigger

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>>135220887
Be a good leaf & https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zZEF1x0j7gM

>>135220887
Suck my gun loving dick you fucking leaf

>>135222164
lol fucking retard

>>135220887
>A Canadian thinking it knows what is best for another nation's national security

I'm starting to think we may need to build two walls.

Copy pasta horseshit.
The exact same thread has been posted days in a row.
Sage
Hide
Report

No one will read this drivel anyway.

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>>135220887

SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED NIGGER FAGGOT SLAVE

>>135220887
Fucking leaf! No

>>135220887
You want America to turn into Brazil???

Fuck. Off. Leaf.

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>>135220887
for what it's worth... i've evolved my position on this somewhat.

first, the 2nd amendment is about SELF-Defense. you use a gun for Any other unlawful purpose, that's attempted murder (possibly) with a deadly weapon.

second, most NRA members are not going to be the ones shooting up schools or movie theaters or nightclubs, those are whackos who fell off the map of society.

I was wrong to think that "more guns" means "let's all just threaten and shoot at each other all day, everyday"

most gun owners (I would think) would be appalled by such a society...

instead, it's about self-defense and most importantly self-discipline and responsibility.

>>135220887
And how do you propose to enforce all that?
If a criminal shoots up your house with a 30 round semi-auto and all you have is a legal bolt action, and all the cops have are 9mm ten shot pistols and they are 45 minutes away?
Your proposition Number 3 completely negates the second and forth amendments, so stop pretending that you support the second amendment, you do not.
It is YOUR responsibility to keep yourself safe. The government can not an will not do it. You are giving up freedom, under the illusion that government can solve every problem. You, therefore, do not possess the mental capacity to vote, and should not be allow to own a firearm. As for the rest of us, we will have to take up the burden of defending you.

>>135220887
Sage

>>135220887

Assuming you're not baiting, let me counterpoint you.

1.) It's unspecific for a reason. Every American has the right to bear arms. This shall not be infringed. This is a core tenet of our nation, as it is both the right and responsibility of the common folk of our Great Republic to ensure the government does not overstep into tyranny. Senseless gun violence is but a tiny price to pay for security from tyranny when the tree of liberty cries out for watering.

2.) If an American is old enough to enlist in the Armed Services and die for the freedoms of his nation, he is old enough to enjoy the fruits of those freedoms and to protect himself, his family, and his Republic.

3.) The Government is the chief reason the second amendment exists. The people of the nation itself are the most fearsome and powerful check in the system of balances our Republic employs. Yes, the government has drones and tanks etc; but you cannot govern an armed populace by force. Boots on the ground. Military realities.

I will gladly rebut any further points you have, and I appreciate your time in attempting to subvert and undermine the glorious Republic of the United States of America. Fifteen cents has been deposited by the queen into your weak-kneed milk-drinking Trudeau-sponsored Soros-funded Government Retirement Account™

>>135220887

Canadian shit doesn't understand the purpose of the second amendment in the first place

Fucking Retard

>>135220887
My improved second amendment:

>The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. Arms may not be taxed. Arms may not be restricted. Arms may not be licensed, tracked or registered. "Arms" is defined herein to mean "any items, objects, structures or vehicles which are meant to, or may be, used for combat, warfare or defense."

Note that this is all already implied by "shall not be infringed." This change would only be to clarify the intent of the bill.

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>Leaf thinks he knows better.

>>135224366

Nice

>>135220887
You are in the most cowardly fashion, asking other men in the form of government to take away the freedom
and right to self defense of your peers.
You will not be one of those who confiscate
guns, because you only value your safety,
and you are lobbying others to exercise
control on your behalf without risking anything yourself.

>>135220887
The ppl need equal force to be able to revolt agaist a hypothetical tyranic government. Get a brain dumb ass.

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>>135220887
I've saged but this will get to 300 (you)s GTD

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>>135220887
the founder also didn't imagine the internet? Does that mean the 1st amendment needs to be changed?

>>135220887
Fuck off leaf shill, you posted the same shit yesterday and no one cared then. Certainly no one cares now.

>>135220988
CHECKED

FPBP

I have no idea why you would need more than 3 bullets in your MAGAZINE. Fucking leaf. It's not a fucking clip.
>Also this
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/oklahoma-man-uses-ar-15-kill-three-teen-home-intruders-n739541

Fuck man this is some top tier shill bait, it's actually scary
I was on board with it until he said take away guns at any time

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>>135223333

damn, and none of you faggots checked em

>>135221101
Fuck you.

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>>135220887
No?! YOU SAY 'NO' TO MY AR-15, YOU FUCKIN' PRICK! YOU AIN'T GONNA ABLE TO SAY 'NO' TO ME WHEN I GET TO YOUR HOUSE, YOU MOTHERFUCKER!!

>>135220887
only changes we need are allowance of suppressors, full auto capability, and removal of 922r compliance bullshit.

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>>135220887
>Assault weapons
>Clips being used in this context
Wew this is quality bait

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>>135220887
a fucking leaf has no right to say anything about american traditions and rules.

>>135220887
day of the rake is soon.

>>135220887
Gun owner for years
>Clip
Fuck off leaf

It's BEAR not bare you stupid fuck

>>135221101
As a counter argument. May I suggest you fornicate with a syphilitic moose?

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>I'm a gun owner
>therefore, by being a gun owner, this gives me the rights to take away all guns
>B-but it's not ALL guns, just the spooky ones

>*people still die from guns*
>oh shucks, as a gun nu- gun owner I have the right to relinquish all your weapons because pistols and shotguns still kill, we can keep 22LR muskets though.

>>135220887
>!) Have the 2nd amendment specify exactly which arms Americans have a right to bare.
Just stop right there leaf.
Then fuck off.
Inb4 a shitskin rapes OP.

They could have put an age restriction, but they didn't.
They could have banned cannons, but they didn't.
They could have said one gun each, but they didn't.
They could have banned wooden warships with 40 cannons, but they didn't.

The right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed.

>>135220887
You're missing the point, the purpose of A2 is to ensure that the citizens have enough firepower to overthrow a disobedient government.

>>135228708
This.
OP's clearly getting a shekel per post.

>>135220887
youre from canada do you have intellectuals up there or are you to busy dressing up eight year olds and fucking dogs
>I strongly support the second amendment but want to amend it because i believe that what i think is so profound i will pontificate and prove how intellectually superior i am otherwise i would just stuff the barrel of one of the guns i love so dearly up my butt and pull the trigger

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>>135220887
>>135221101
Go fuck yourself, stay in your own goddamn shithole you fucking syrup nigger.

>>135220887
Well, no.

Let's say Canada decides to invade us, each and every American needs to have quality weapons so we can mow you fuckers down and push your asses up into the fucking Arctic.

Get it?

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>>135228936
I'm pretty sure your AR15's rounds would bounce off of M1 tanks. Also, how do you plan on dealing with US military attack helicopters, fighter jets, battleships, nuclear submarines, and the most elite, loyal, and disciplined fighting force on the planet?

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>>135220887

I just want everyone to know, this thread has been posted in some form everyday on this board since 2013.

>no one needs weapons that have more than 10 bullets in a clip
>clip

That's where you stop reading and sage.

>>135229561
That's the point, the citizen militia is necessary for the security of a free state. Its written right there in A2, did you miss it? After 200+ years we're _way_ off course.

>>135220988
FPBP

>>135229434
Because that would ever happen...

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>>135220887
Fuck off, ya shitty leaf! You just wannabe the USA. Stop spamming this bullshit.

Says it would improve America. Doesn't live in America. Fuck off ya leaf. Go chug some maple syrup or something.

>>135229818
Well looks like you have some work to do because America has been a police state for the last 3-4 decades.


Also, I support the 2A but it should be changed to account for it being 2017 and not 1791 anymore.

>>135229561
The military swears an oath to the constitution, not the government dumbfuck.
If issued completely unlawful orders (such as attack american citizens doing nothing wrong) soldiers can and will disobey those orders.
There was a large survey throughout the NCOs of the military to see what would happen if they were repeatedly given orders to fire on Americans.
The NCOs would frag the officer giving those orders in a majority of cases.

>>135220887
>Leaf
>Posting ignorant shit
>Probably b8

sage desu.

>>135221101
Fuck you syrup nigger

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>>135220887
>leaf

>>135230157
>account for it being 2017 and not 1791 anymore
Oh fuck off already with your memes.

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>>135229561
You leafy idiot, why do you keep posting here? You are the reason we have no respect on this board. Please self educate yourself on topics before posting, this isn't the comment section of the Toronto Star

>>135220887
Keep making Canada the greatest country right next to Sweden, leaf.

>>135221101
I suggest you shut the fuck up and mind your own business.

>>135230182
I'm pretty sure if citizens started firing at troops, that troops would return fire. Do you honestly believe that US troops would let themselves be killed that easily? These are some of the most loyal, trained, and disciplined soldiers on the planet.

>>135230157
Actually, humans are basically the same. There has been no significant evolution of humans since ~17nn so what was true then is true today. People in power pretty much always try to stay in power and gain more power, this has not changed. The clothes, technology, and smell have changed, but the humans that seek power are the same assholes as the ones that were in power in ~17nn.

>>135220887

No compromises.

Now put on your blue UN beret, run off to the third world, and resume raping children, leaf.

If you try to change the second amendment, we're going to use the second amendment.

>>135230539
Americans wouldn't start firing on troops. They start assassinating people in lonewolf attacks. Organizing pretty much means infiltration and that means the end.

>>135220887
>blah blah blah, it's not specific
At the time of the ratification of the bill many citizens owned artillary, the Gatling Gun was produced and sold privately, the founders never had any issue with this. Shall not be infringed means exactly that.

>>135220887
Fuck off leaf

>>135230864
Ok ... In this case US troops would be even more willing to fight against citizens in order to protect their lives. Thanks for supporting my argument.

>>135220887
Of course a fucking leaf would say this.
They lived under tyranny for ever. Even now they suck the fucking queens dick as often as possible while pretending to be their own country.

DAY OF THE FUCKING RAKE COMING YOU GODDAMN LEAVES!

>>135220887
I believe me and my neighbors should be able to get together to buy a tank and/or attack helo; crew, maintain, and operate said weapons platform and generally keep our shit secure.

>>135231121
can i be part of that group? my grandfathers neighbor owns an m5 halftrack. decent start imo.

>>135220887
Pulse night club actors, why does the government and CNN lie about violent incidents with arms and then try to disarm you? The evidence is in the last 1/4 of this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4922rWCZ890

>>135220887
Here is a better one: Recreational Nukes

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>>135230944

This is the only statement that needs to be made. He just jelly of our slightly less restrictive government. Also this is probably copypasta bait.

>>135227589
Cringe

(((Clip)))

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>>135220988
FPBP and dub$ confims

>hey here's my opinion
>hahaha faggot leaf
>but I-
>SHUT IT LEAF
>bu-
>LEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAF

Jesus christ, shut up you autists. Would it kill you to actually consider a differing opinion now and then?

135220887
>a fucking leaf
>telling americans how to life their life.
>A FUCKING LEAF
Go back to being the shitty apartment above a badass party, nobody gives half a fuck what you think you pile of poutine fucking, moose cum guzzling, frostback, syrupnigger.

Also, No (you) for you, you fliptop headed mongoloid

>>135220887
Fuck off.

>>135220887
>I strongly support the 2nd amendment.
>Give the government the ability to take firearms from whoever, whenever, and for any reason. It is the governments job to keep us safe. And if they have the ability to take guns away from dangerous people, we will all be so much safer.
Fuck you, stupid leaf. The 2nd amendment was made to prevent the reign of a tyrannical government. Granting the state such a legal right defeats the purpose of the 2nd amendment.

>>135231707
no. but this leafs opinion is dumb.

>>135230398
Im sorry the worst posters you see on here are mostly American. You get the the odd leaf and everyone goes fucking insane because of le ebic maymay XDDD

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>>135220887

>>135221388
2A affirms that our right to bare arms is granted by our creator not the government.

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>>135220887

>>135231707
>>Jesus christ, shut up you autists.

You have a problem with the 1st Amendment ?
>>Would it kill you to actually consider a differing opinion now and then?

In this case, yes. Yes it could.

>>135220887
ITT: Leafs telling America how to country when they've gone full social justice.

Sweep your own stoop, leafs!

>>135223802
2A has nothing to do with self defense or hunting

>>135220988
Based LEAF with the save and Hitler digits?

Best post ever

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>>135220887

>>135231707
>consider a differing opinion
not when it comes from a single foreigner will our Constitutional rights ever be up for consideration.

>>135222222

>>135232632
I have ancestors from the original 13 colonies.

>>135220887
fuck kike leaf.

>>135220887
Good post. I don't know why Americans are against common sense gun control. How many children have to die before they get their heads out of their asses and regulate guns?

>>135220887
A fucking leaf. I hope you get fucking shot. You have no business getting involved in American politics

>>135220887
>bare arms
>clip
You have never shot a gun in your life and you have no clue what an assault rifle is

>>135220887
Fuck you canacuck.
When they wrote the second amendment in civilians had the same firearms as the military.
It will remain that way.
Move someplace out else if you hate the second amendment. Like England.

>leaf
>100+ replies
Jesus Christ you fucktards

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>>135220887
fuck off we dont give a shit what you think

>not a single coherent argument in this entire thread

Wow, who would've thought that gun nuts are low iq idiots. I work in a high paying job as an attorney and have never met a single high iq person who owns a gun.

>>135232921
>> The children
How many children get aborted every day? Spare the fake giveashit for children.

The 2nd Amendment "Right to bear arms" should have two, and only two, purposes.

1) Citizen Militia: last line of defense when regular armed forces fail and country is invaded
2) Revolutionary: legal process fails to prevent govt taking of constitutional and natural rights

"Arms" should take a contemporary interpretation. Steak knives are not "arms" as they will not deter foreign armies or govt. oppression. Guns, be they handguns or hunting rifles or assault rifles, = "arms"

>>135220887
>Shall Not Be Infringed.
Just because Canada is full of fucking cucks doesn't mean the US has be.

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>>135232921

>>135232798
>We Wuz Merican annn shiieeettttt!

>A leaf larping as an American

Just ban their whole country at this point

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>>135233441
fetuses aren't children, they aren't even alive. Someone could rip it out and throw it in an oven and then eat it and I wouldn't care because it's not a living thing.

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>>135220887

> muh 3 bullets

Never had someone burst firing an AK down a street at him

> no one needs an assault rifle

Even children laugh at you leaf fag

>>135233369
> A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

How fucking hard is it to understand one sentence.

>SHALL
>NOT
>BE
>INFRINGED

>>135220887
>First of all, I would just like to say that I am a proud gun owner and I strongly support the 2nd amendment.
>I would like to see all assault weapons banned under the 2nd amendment.

kys leaf

>>135233641
So cells aren't living? God you're retarded.

>>135233641
When is it not a fetus? What point exactly does it get protection?

>>135233369
>works as attorney

for the muslims?

>>135233641
Once again, your differing opinion kills.

>>135233866
When the light of the full moon kisses their forehead for the first time according to feminist. But they aren't people either. So can't trust them

>>135233697
It's probably more complex than you think. If "infringe" is taken literally, then you could argue that that selling guns as a sales good infringes upon a poor person's right to bear arms.

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>>135220887
Got it, lets repeal NAFTA.

>>135220887
how about you just suck dis cock

>>135220887
>Give the government the ability to take firearms from whoever, whenever, and for any reason.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>135220887
This is a declaration of war, we must invade and annex the North. Rape all Men, women and children that are Canadian.

>>135220887
stahp listen to rap musics and rewritin 2ND Amendment. No1 clips bro put that in UR 30 round dick bye

>>135233976
Yes I have some muslim clients. They are very nice and not at all like the violent extremists you pain them to be.

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I almost thought you were serious until I got to 3. Still disgusting

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>>135220887
"I would like to see all assault weapons banned under the 2nd amendment."

Ban Rifles?

FUCK YOU

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>>135231707
>hides his flag
RMMT

>>135234173
No it doesn't. Their right to own it is intact. Obtaining one is a different matter.
There is no governmental or authority telling that person they're not fit to own that weapon. That's infringement. Not a market economy's entry price.

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>>135220887
SAGE

>>135234330
do they smell of goat asshole?

>>135220887
I know you are a Leaf who doesnt understand Fundamental Rights, so I will explain them to you. A fundamental right is a right that is older than the Constitution of the US. I wil give you an example, the right of privacy in Griswold v Connecticut. Now, the Second Amendment is a Fundamental Right given and ensure by the Constitution because the right to defend yourself is older than the Constitution; therefore, you can have weapons to defend yourself. The part that you are way to much of an idiot to understand, here in the US, we love our guns because they give us liberty and security that institutions can not provide us. When you live in the middle of nowhere, the cops will not arrive in 5 min, they will arrive after an hour.
I know this will be super hard to grasp because you guys pretty much dont have fundamental rights. Thanks Supreme Court of the US for being awesome.

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>>135220887

I know it's bait, but Jesus...

>>135220887
The point of the second amendment is to give the people the power to overthrow the government if it becomes too big. We can't do that with shit guns and small clips.
>taking guns away prevents violence
You are a dumbass

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>>135234389

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>>135220887
Go fuck yourself in the face leaf

>>135220887

Agreed completely, leafbro. We need to take away the legal guns from white people to stop all the gun crime committed by blacks with illegal guns.

What part of this don't you understand, /pol/?

>>135234419
Agreed. But the amendment begins with

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State"

So the scope of infringement-free gun ownership is limited to militia purposes only.

The stated text doesn't extend this protection to guns obtained for other reasons.

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>>135232921
>nigger baby gets shot in ooga booga gangfight
>leaf expects us to give a shit

>>135220887
>shit posting this hard as a canuck

Wew

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>>135220887
Suuuurrreeeee... we believe you...

Pic related...

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>>135235369
Most firearm violence are done by WHITES.

>>135235422
>So the scope of infringement-free gun ownership is limited to militia purposes only.

THIS

Militia = military. They weren't talking about letting a bunch of crack addicted fat rednecks have guns, they meant an ORGANIZED military.

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>>135235738
even your cherrypicked picture has a fucking nigger and a chink in it you dumb fuck.

>>135235738
Most firearm violence are suicides. Very few repeat offenders.

>>135224005
Hey someone who actually gets it. Someone who gets the fact that the second amendment is to protect against the government, not other citizens. That is one thing i think most people forget when debating the second amendment. Having the government regulate it defeats the entire purpose.

>>135235911
Not exactly.

The crack addicted rednecks are supposed to be the militia. In the case where the US army is defeated and a homegrown resistance is needed to repel an invading army.

Or if the government overreaches and removes constitutional or natural rights.

Since neither of these scenarios are occurring right now, guns need to remain locked inside the fat redneck's trailer.

>>135220887
>leaf

kill yourself

>>135220887
Fuck off leaf. Worry about the savages running over your country while the Chinese buy up all of your land with borrowed money.

>>135230539
They're also Americans too. If anything every grunt with a rifle would line up to lynch a politician sending them to pointless wars and pushing identity politics

>>135235738
Timmy used a truck bomb, you need to re-shop this.

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>>135220887

1. The second amendment is for protecting the people against a tyrannical government when force is needed. Assault Rifles are military grade. Yeah, because that's how we keep our country un-invadable from outside or INSIDE forces. Also why do you still believe the 2nd amendment gun crime meme?

2. Agreed, except people below the age should be able to handle their parents firearms with the consent of the parent.

3. See #1. That rule would literally defeat the purpose of the second amendment in the first place. Letting the government take away firearms for no reason completely contradicts the 2nd amendment, and probably the whole idea of the USA in the first place.

also: +1 respect for actually presenting arguments and not being a complete leafposter.

>>135222131
So... is it a raid, or just a random who wandered in from Reddit?

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>>135220887
Add "except niggers". That should help.

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>>135220887
>Leaf
Of course it is

Leaf, I have a counter proposal, you mind your own fucking business and the United States Governs itself as usual.

>>135220887
pretty good shit post, leaf. the flag might have overplayed your hand though

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Every single day, 86 Americans use the 2nd amendment as an excuse to get murdered by a gun.

Since America is the number one cause for war and suffering world wide, I think that's not nearly enough. Guns and ammo should be doled out together with welfare to increase that number!

>>135220887
>Time changes everything

This right here is where anyone with a brain can stop reading.

Time changes nearly nothing, humans are the same animals they were in 1791 as they are now and will continue to be for at least another 500k years or so unless there's some freak divergence in evolution.

The only thing that has changed is that you have a bunch of liberal autists running around thinking their atheism exempts them from morality or that they are elevated "beyond" people who follow proven ethics and methods of building a civilization.

We've been doing the same shit for thousands of years and the only thing that seems to change is how many degenerates we allow to take the reigns of power.

As soon as it reaches a tipping point, society rapidly collapses. And THAT, my friend, is the real reason the second amendment was written.

>>135239953
Retarded reasoning; however, I find myself in agreement with the outcome. (By the way, that 86 number includes cops shooting criminals, suicides, self-defense, and niggers).

>>135220887

It's funny how people think that have no historical experience of true freedom. Who assume it is just and right for the government to control your life.

The second amendment is there so that the people have sufficient firepower to wage war on our government and destroy it, should it stop serving our interests. Period. Defense against criminals is just a nice bonus. And I guess hunting if you are into that sort of thing.

It doesn't matter how many nuts shot up theaters or schools. We give up some of our security for freedom. People die for freedom. That includes collateral damage from the 2nd amendment.

People die because we are free to drive cars. People die because we are free to drink, smoke and eat red meat.
And people die because we are free to defend ourselves from our government.

>>135220887
Just get rid of blacks and gun crime goes down in the US.

>>135220887
You again.
KYS LEAF. DON'T COME TO THE STATES. WE DON'T WANY YOUR KIND HERE. YOU ARE A BETA PIECE OF SHIT. GO TO HELL.
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.

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>>135220887

Low quality bait get the fuck out faggot

>>135240832
I think it becomes one of the lowest the world without the nogs

>>135235738
The image you chose is more diverse than the humanities department at a liberal arts college.

Additionally, non-Hispanic Whites make up 63 percent of the population as per the figures the Census Bureau released for 2016. Out of our population of 323,127,513 people in 2016, 203,570,333 people were non-Hispanic Whites. While there might numerically be more non-Hispanic White mass murderers, there doesn't seem to be a statistically significant disparity between what percent of each ethnic group becomes mass murderers in comparison to other ethnic groups.

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>>135220887
Fucking slide thread. What the fuck are you sliding canadijew?

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>>135235738

>>135240437
I can agree with the niggers and the suicides, but not with the cops.
Your cops shoot unarmed and innocent people for fun, which in every other country on the world would be murder. Like the nigger cop who shot that white woman in Minneapolis.

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>>135222629
shall
not
be

I would agree with you 100%, if this was the 1700s. The problem with making a ban on assault rifles is the fact that they are already out there. it's not good when the bad guys have the assault weapons and the good guys don't. that's the point of being a "criminal"; they don't listen to the law. drugs are illegal, yet anyone can still get them.

if the AK47 or AR15 were never invented, then obviously that's a different story, but that's not the case. They are already in circulation, and there's no way to get rid of them all. Even if you could, nothing is stopping a criminal from manufacturing his own assault rifle, even if it is a bootlegged homemade one.

>>135220887
Fuck you OP, I have an ak47 that shoots 12 gauge shotgun shells from 25 round drum magazine.

Also fuck you, I've been shooting since I was 12 which gave me gun safety practice that prevent me from accidental discharge.

Fuck even more for suggesting that the government take anyones guns, you do realize the american civilian gun owners outnumber every military force in the world times 12x! We would destroy the entire US infrastructure over our guns being taken away.

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>>135235738
dont forget :)

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IMRAN AWAN IS SUBSCRIBED TO DOZENS OF ELSAGATE YOUTUBE CHANNELS!

>>135239309

>>135241158
Yep.

It does bring up an interesting point though. The constitution was written for a population that had an IQ over 80, had no welfare, and were pretty much all Christian families with virgin brides. I don't think freedom necessarily works when you have a feral mixed race population that has nothing in common and is little better than a herd of dependent beasts.

Then again, that's why initially the federal government was supposed to have very little power, so that things could be dealt with on a more local basis.

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OP has it backwards

>second ammendment was written in a very different time

Back in those days you could fight government tyranny with only rifles. Nowadays the government has military equipment that makes eventhe best light machine guns look like peashooters.

The second ammendment needs to be expanded to protect the ownership of explosive weapons, artillery, tanks, combat aircraft, and ground to air weaponry.

Only then will citizens be able to fairly defend themselves and their property

Also. This is an obvious bait thread

Sage

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>>135223333
AVE NEX ALEA
SALUTO NEX ALEA

The general consensus here is "fuck off leaf". Rightly so, too. The Right to Bare Arms is simply that. It doesn't need to be pigeon-held to be stupidly specific and restrictive. It's not the "Right to Bare Arms if you agree to the Terms of Service".

So...

Fuck off, leaf. Go back to your socialist cuckold of a nation.

>>135220887
No.

I'd shoot you.

Ah this exact same thread word for word again...
SAGE move on.

>>135241745
I hope your right. Sadly I'm not sure the people have it in them anymore.

>>135229561
How did Vietnam, Afghanistan etc. Do it?

>>135222920
>Jews are excluded from access to the Kingdom
Beautiful

>>135223333
CCHECKK

>>135242244
Yes good point. The Amendment already protects those things though. We just need to remove the unconstitutional restrictions.

And yes this is a faggot bait thread.

And Captcha is the most annoying fucking thing ever.

>>135220988
Hey, your bro there is clearly trying to pass a law outside his zone. I know the two line pass rule is gone, but am is this a penalty? And if not, when I just ram him into the boards, can I cross the line to do it?

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>>135223333
Super Checked

>>135220887
1. Doesnt matter what you feel
2.Its the parents responsibility
3.the governments job is the exact oppisite of keep us safe

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>>135232921
OOOH THE CHILDREN DO IT FOR THE CHILDREN!!!!!

you're literally trying to convince the people of /pol/ with a "ooooh the children! :-((((" argument. i think you should consider hanging yourself and live streaming it.

>>135231049
Ya. no. Troops would ignore orders to fire upon citizens. This has already been established.
2A is not going anywhere. Deal with it you dog knot sucking faggot.

>>135232798
No likely.

20% of all buisness must go to Jews, Do You white males feel guilty yet?

>>135228708
Cannons are artillery, not arms. The Constitution doesn't recognize your right to own nuclear warheads either.

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>>135220887
Come and take them, leaf

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>>135233369
you live in canada retardfaggot

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>>135235738
You are bad at this sort of thing.
Perhaps you should hang yourself

>>135233641
i smell the decaying of your brain

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>>135235738
either you are a troll or very camp worthy

>>135224366

KEK Approves of your amendment.

>>135243636
You should learn before you speak. Cannons are legal in the present day.

Ans your distinction between arms and artillery is meaningless. Made up word thinking to justify your own feelings.

>>135224366
Well written.

>>135220887
>assault weapons banned
>bullets in a clip
>entire phrasing of point 3)
>interspersal of reasonable-sounding points that mean something different to pro- and anti-gun people on first read.

Quite well designed to get under the skin and provoke a reaction. +1 point for appropriate flag.

8/10, this is what trolling should look like.

>>135243636

Actually, under US federal law, it is legal for individual citizens to possess nuclear weapons. However, possessing weapons-grade uranium or plutonium is a felony, so you're kinda out of luck.

You can own tanks though, as long as you have the barrel plugged when driving on the highway.

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>>135220887

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>>135221101

>>135220887
>Bullets in a clip

>>135241814
Those two jew fags?
What about them?

>>135226395
Nice try, you have to go back