Amazon's monopoly is decimating US economy

Trump on (((Bezos)))-
"He thinks I'll go after him for antitrust," Trump said at the time. "Because he's got a huge antitrust problem because he's controlling so much, Amazon is controlling so much of what they are doing.

"He's using the Washington Post, which is peanuts, he's using that for political purposes to save Amazon in terms of taxes and in terms of antitrust."

Trump’s campaign later reiterated this narrative in a statement claiming that the Post was being used as political leverage so Amazon doesn’t “get sued for monopolistic tendencies that have led to the destruction of department stores and the retail industry.”

Bump for freedom's sake

>>135205002

>amazon is a monopoly
>almost everything they sell can be found elsewhere online often cheaper

Ok then

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>>135205002
How is it a monopoly?
Nobody is forcing you to buy it through amazon.
If they can provide it at the lowest price, they've invested enough in the logistics chain to get it to you for the cheapest amount. If you can get it cheaper elsewhere, go buy it elsewhere
Same with Walmart

>>135207037
This.

Why not open your own store and sell your shit cheaper op.

>>135205002

OP is a jealous faggot,they do not have a monopoly they just sell their goods for cheaper.

Also they pay their employees better than retail cucks get paid. It is great pay? No

Still they pay better than the physical store retail cucks

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Not a monopoly

Seems legit

>>135207037
>buy several articles from a bunch of different sites
>pay shipping for every single one of them
>they arrive individually, on different dates, at different times

vs

>order all from same site
>no shipping
>everything arrives at the same time

>>135207676
>Why don't you build your own rocket and fly to Mars OP?"

You really think that's achievable for the average US citizen in this economy?

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i mean i like amazon but op is right and only people who still have jobs or an income left will post itt and say its fine and everything is ok with it when its not

u need to tax and redistribute to the people without jobs or have them employed through goverment programz or some shit

at some point it just doesnt work and theres not enough jobs for people

>>135205002
CIA

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If only there were other online stores where you could buy things for the same price or cheaper...

>>135208465

Still not a monopoly.

You could apply that same logic to a grocery store vs produce store/butcher shop/general store/pharmacy.

>>135209228
They will spoil themselves with cheap Amazon goods, feeding the beast that will ultimately consume them.

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>>135210224
>comparing a few websites to literally hundreds of thousands of small businesses by every man at the turn of the 19th century

it will never be the same we are all destined to be slaves at this point

It's more efficient than local stores and is a boon for our economy. I also dare anyone to show that it's had a negative impact on jobs in the US. How many jobs were there before Amazon showed up, and how many are there now?

>>135210341
I think I misinterpreted you post.

>>135210572
You know it's bad when people have no understanding of businesses that aren't monopolistic conglomerates.

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>>135210851
>it helps the economy even though it shuts down stores

confirmed not in reality

if all the money is going to a few big corporations it doesnt exactly help the population

if might be more efficient IF YOU STILL HAVE AN INCOME THEN OF COURSE YOU DONT GIVE A SHIT JUST GIVE ME MY INSTANT ORDERS t. fuck everyone else

>>135211494
Do you weep for all the candle-makers who lost their jobs to light bulbs?

>>135205002
Can confirm.
My wife won't shop at walmart but is on amazon every fucking day.

>>135210224
It's the amazon video that lull the women.

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>>135211550
its not going to work like that this time

theres not another wave of jobs coming

right now its just going to phase out people

>>135211805
Like I said, can you prove that the number of American jobs has trended downward since Amazon showed up?
lolno of course not, there are literally 6 million unfulfilled positions in the US right now. You doomsayers literally never learn, human desire is infinite. It will take a lot more than an efficient online marketplace to permanently phase out our economy.

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Comrade Trump is jealous of the richest capitalist alive.

>>135210224
Staples is getting crushed by Amazon. They closing stores as we speak. Are we supposed to wait until there is absolutely no other stores left to buy from before we finally declare them a monopoly?

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>>135211949
our economy is already dead you fucking moron

we have walmarts and we have mcdonalds and everyone is a slave

you people have no perception of whats actually going on

youre blinded because you still taste bits of the remains of what a real economy was

>>135212149
>he says with not a single number to back him up
I see new businesses open up in my town literally every day.

>>135211550
"U.S. retail sales of candles are estimated at approximately $2 billion annually, excluding sales of candle accessories. Candles are used in 7 out of 10 U.S. households."

Nice analogy, brainlet.

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>>135212355
oh ya how are they going to beat amazon

because theres chains with hundreds of millions of dollars that are shutting down right now who couldnt figure it out

what are they going to sell underwater basket weaving utensils from india

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>>135205002
Buy n Large anyone?

>>135212520
Wow, it's almost like efficiency doesn't always eradicate a livelihood entirely. I wonder if there are still physical book shops, grocery stores, and used goods stores, even though Amazon and Ebay exist

>>135205002
because congress doesn't have the balls to do anything about it

>>135205002
>Before Amazon/Big box stores a small business owner (retail) could generate a personal income of $70K-Millions and hire 2-30+ employees,

retail is a joke of a "business", a middleman got cut out, who woulda thot.

>>135212149
/thread

>>135212551
By specializing in something that the local populace wants, and being more service oriented than goods oriented. More businesses open up than close every year. Please stop being stupid.

>>135205002
doesnt matter which company it is, it's the same usps guy that delivers undies to my apartment.

>>135205002
Great post OP, shared to kikebook

>>135212821
>>135213058
What we really need is the government to control everything I buy and how I spend my money.

Am I doing it right?.

>>135205002
Good. Let them all fucking die. In my country the retailers gouge consumers so fucking hard. You know retailers are fucking you without lube when it's cheaper to buy an item online, ship it to your country and pay the import tax and custom duties. Local shops put a 500% markup on shit they sell then they go crying on national TV when they have shit sales for christmas. They got so fucking desperate they tried to get the government to ban online shopping but the public backlash was so fucking hard they canceled the ban. Instead the government added a small "online tax" and were blown away at how much money they earned in a month. Far more than looking after retailers and collecting their share. Fuck small businesses. They can rot.

Reminder that you can't be a national socialist and support stores like Amazon

>16. We demand the creation and maintenance of a healthy middle class, the immediate communalizing of big department stores, and their lease at a cheap rate to small traders, and that the utmost consideration shall be shown to all small traders in the placing of State and municiple orders.

>>135211949
Our economy is propped up by a mountain of debt. The people own nothing. They don't own the car they drive, the house they live in, or even the clothes on their back in many cases. We are all pretending everything is ok, until the debt collector comes. Without our free money we are less than a third world country. Wait until they come, we will all either become enslaved or completely wiped off the planet.

>>135205002
Amazons profits are FUCKED.
Holding shares in them is the most pure form of gambling in existence.

>>135213645
OK, bro. I guess in ten years we'll see who's right. Doomsayers, who have literally always been wrong, or realists who can see that efficiency is good for an economy.

>>135205002
Well, you do make a good point... but they sell so much good shit conveniently in one location. It's hard not to want to buy from Amazon.

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>>135213939
see>>135213738

america already dead

>>135213738
Debt doesn't invalidate the amount of real tangible wealth our country has and produces every day. I would rather be an American in the bottom 10% today, than John D. Rockefeller in his own time.

>>135205002
>I hate competition
Come up with a better idea without your emotions and muh morality being involved

>>135212712
>Implying that Wholefoods(Amazon) wont wipe out every other grocery store.

>>135213738
Your leftypol is showing.

>>135205002
>local business that has access to local resources cannot offer me a service that is either a) cheaper, b) better or c) quicker
sounds more like shitty local mom & pop joints need a reality check on the principles of free market competition

>>135213645
Learn to draw porn and draw it well. You will make endless amounts of money. If you really want to make bank with fewer work pieces draw furry porn and draw it well. My sister draws furry porn and makes 6 grand a month, I'm talking USD here. She had an auction where she auctioned off spots in a pic. Was a furry gangbang orgy. Each spot went for over a grand and there were 8 spots. People couldn't alter anything in the image. They just sent a reference pic of their self insert fursona and that was it. I called her a whore for doing shit like this and she said she rather be an art whore than taking black dick for a living. That was how I discovered my sister was redpilled.

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>>135214222
>I would rather be an American in the bottom 10% today, than John D. Rockefeller in his own time.

i wouldnt

id rather be a king 5000 years ago then the life i got now

>the amount of real tangible wealth our country has and produces every day

which is none because it was all shipped overseas

you actual imbecile

if everyone is in debt thats the definition of not having wealth

>>135205002
free market

>>135205002
Shut it down then. You cannot win by regular means anymore, they will just pay off the politicians...

>>135212746
No, the middle man is still there. We just let one man turn all the other ones into his nu-slaves.

>>135213491
This desu senpai. I was in Albania last summer and I bought a TV for my grandma in the local equivalent of Best Buy and they're literally charging 2x the price of a shitty 32" TV

>>135213491
>Fuck small businesses. They can rot.

where are you going to work retard

Online shopping is fine but I hope Amazon gets broken up purely because Bezos is a huge jackass

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>>135213491
just for giggles, remove the pirate flag

>>135213269
They already do. Welcome to 2017, Crony Capitalism is our way of life now.

Genius idea really. Government using corporations to control every aspect of our lives. How much we get paid, what we eat, what we watch, our culture, our choices. Very easy to control everyone once all of the power is so concentrated.

I remember when Amazon used to sell books.

>>135214019
Pornhub also has a lot of good shit conveniently in one location. It's hard not to want to simulate sexual intercourse from Pornhub. However, does this mean it should completely replace the need for women? Is the use of pornhub overall damaging in the long-term and detrimental to society?

>>135214281
How can you compete with a company that breaks every fucking law in the book and gets away with it?

>>135217412
Yes.

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>>135217412

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>>135217784
its not about competing sometime you need to throw the towel in and say you know what they beat me

but this sucks and we cant sustain 2 people owning everything

>>135213924
>tfw I sold Amazon years ago and bought Bitcoin

>>135205002
>They are literally a wholesaling warehouse that sells directly to consumers instead of retailers. This should not be legal.
Get fucked commie

>>135205002
The us government is purposely trying to create these huge monopolies that they can integrate into a centrally controlled economy. US government also created cryptocurrency with google for this purpose.

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>>135219139
>Get fucked commie

where ya gonna work.

im waiting.

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>>135205039
>>135205002
Thanks for this thread, we must go after the Silicon Valley monopolies like this. He is literally going to be the richest man on earth, but he must be stopped. If you notice, he also outsources to make cheap shitty Chinese products to undercut any made in US products, which he can then sell through his monoplous empire. This is important, the Dems/Left view technology and their technocratic elites as saviors, but the new Right must take them on. We will be the righteous men, fighting the the new Tycoons and Barons! We can consolidate Blue Collar support with a populist approach. We just have to breach this subject to New or Trump Republicans. The old cucks are owned by Big Money already sold out!

What is your plan anon, you seem to have a grasp on this issue?

>>135207960
>>135207676
>>135207479
>>135207037
Think about the social implications anon! This doesn't just hamper local stores, but other smaller online businesses as well! Why do you invest your labor and time in defending a rich and disruptive industry that does not care about your well being. Bezos owns the Washington Post, he is actively working against Donald Trump and by extension the American people!

>>135210851
Lol, look guys, all the local stores are out of businesses, but now some people have jobs at the amazon warehouse that's in my state capital! Oh just ignore all that money that is being sucked right out of the local economy, no probelm there!

>>135212712
Nope, my local bookstore shut down, so fuck off you libertardian brainlet nigger. I'm sick of these NAP faggots saying that it doesn't matter if these Tycoons destroy the fabric of society, so long as they provide cheap service.

>>135214699
YEAH FCK YOU DAD!

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>>135205002
>oy vey how dare these corporations cut out the middleman!
>muh idiocracy

>>135205002
>AMAZON WILL BE BROKEN UP:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCg0tSyNIqM

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/jul/26/donald-trump/amazon-no-tax-monopoly-donald-trump-said/

>Senate and House Democratic leaders today proposed new antitrust laws that could prevent many of the biggest mergers and break up monopolies in broadband and other industries.
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/07/democrats-want-to-stop-big-telecom-mergers-break-up-broadband-monopolies/

>>135222021
>unarchived shill

>https://youtube com/watch?v=kCg0tSyNIqM
https://hooktube.com/watch?v=kCg0tSyNIqM
>http://politifact com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/jul/26/donald-trump/amazon-no-tax-monopoly-donald-trump-said
https://archive.is/x7C03

how do you stop a company from becoming a monopoly ? i mean if the customers like so much that company , what the hell can you do ?

>>135205002
deliver food and sex toys to my door

I don't care faggot

>>135205002
Big box died out because they couldn't innovate. Get rekt faggot. Go watch dead malls series and maybe learn why big boxes and malls failed.

>>135210224
>buy chinkshit from chink site
>it never arrives
>contact them an they do nothing

or

>buy non chinkshit from American site
>it never arrives
>contact them and they immediately ship it next day no questions

>>135222484
>>135222352
>>135222290
READ TED KACZYNSKI YOU BLUE PILLED TECHNOSLAVES

>>135205002
>sells directly to consumers instead of retailers.
>This should not be legal.

>OP wants to mandate inefficiency because he thinks Bezos et al. are taking money in a zero sum fashion

Dude just shut the fuck up and get a 75k/year programming job or something. If you live in Cincinnati I'll even put a word in a Paycor--they always need programmers.

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> a store selling thousands of brands and products it doesn't even own and allows for small businesses to sell their products to reach greater markets

> called a monopoly

>>135207037

Basically.

I have Prime and often pay more than I would elsewhere for the free fast shipping and convenience.

I'd hardly call Amazon a monopoly. They have a significant amount of market share in e-commerce, but there are PLENTY of competitors out there too.

>>135219839
You are right about Silicon Valley, they are also a cancer to the economy. Their business models are so backwards and destructive in their nature. They are only able to survive through constant funding from investors and rarely break a true profit. It seems that often times the only way they can make money is through the destruction of industries, elimination of jobs, or implementation of technology used to systematically cut wages take power from employees. They constantly acquire and merge with competition and even 3rd party service providers, effectively syphoning power into less and less hands. 1 company can acquire 10 other smaller companies, replace their CEOs and with glorified managers and cut wages. It will be near impossible for employees to negotiate higher salaries because nobody in their building will even have the authority to make those changes.

As for my plan... I think redistribution of wealth is a terrible solution. Like I said, I think warehouses like Walmart, costco, etc. should not be allowed to sell directly to consumers. Acquisitions should be significantly limited and controlled by the state to encourage healthy competition and distribution of power. Conglomerates and corporations should be broken up and rent for retail made affordable for new entrants. Personally, I have my own small business in the print industry and I plan on growing it as much as I can in these turbulent times. That is how I plan to do my part.

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>>135205002

I hate to say it but I love Amazon. I hate going from store to store trying to find what I need, only to find out they don't carry it. Some shit is not even sold here in Canada.

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>>135205002

I stopped buying shit off Amazon cause its bad for economy and bad for you

>>135222796
>Lives by a book written by some retarded /k/ommando living in a shack in the woods sending bombs to people cause he's a dick

>>135205002
fuck your economy.

the fact is society doesn't give a shit about your inconvenient, half-assed "customer service"

america is saturated from its own consumer-celebrity culture of plastic people...

this is what happens when you oppress the rest of humanity, they eventually get stronger.

>>135224121
I agree we need to stop Walmart and other warehouses as you call them. They are ugly and demoralize local communities as it dehumanizes everyone involved, the employees and the costumers. Do the Waltons shop at Walmart? Silicon Velley "innovates" by using technology (or technique if you've read The Technological Society) to increase efficiency at the expense of all the humans involved. Read Jacques Ellul, he is a premier authority on this development. Good luck with your business anon, might I ask what you print? Books or different types of printables such as art or posters?

>>135207037
Amazon has a no-tax monopoly. Through some form of collusion, there is a gentleman's agreement among a number of institutional holders of its stock to never require that profit be shown, in order to avoid paying any taxes.
Bezos was literally the richest man in the world moments ago, and his main company never pays taxes. On its face that is evidence of wrongdoing. He isn't putting anything back, he's just a taker. It's completely unethical and it must come to an end.

>>135207676
>Why not open your own store and sell your shit cheaper op.

Amazon is cutting into his ebay fiddlefuck sales

Its called get rich or die tryin' bitchnigga. /pol/ goes off on how great capitalism is but as soon as someone gets filthy rich off it /pol/ whines. Your either gonna keep up with the capitalist game and dollar god or get left behind. Its what /pol/ wants right?

nobody fucking competes. get me free returns on any opened merchandise with free 2 day shipping and we'll talk.

>>135205002
Create a distribution system based on many independent vendors that is somehow more efficient than Amazon

Or keep whining faggot

>>135212021
>Are we supposed to wait until there is absolutely no other stores left to buy from before we finally declare them a monopoly?

yes. that's what a monopoly is.

kek ffs

>>135224534
Wallow in your ignorance like a dirtsow you plebeian libertarian

>>135224534
kaczynski has an IQ of at least 150, he's a proper genius. he was just involved in mkultra.

>>135225302
It isn't "get rich and kill everyone else" you fucking nigger

>>135205002
only FUCKING NORMIES USE AMAZON REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>135225302

>everyone on /pol/ worships the dollar and loves capitalism
Go away newfag

Just bought Amazon stock today.
I used all my hard earned money
Did I goofed?

>>135208492
Yes. It's called eBay. Tons of Americans have their own small online stores through eBay, often cheaper than Amazon.

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>>135225767
Not a newfag but keep telling yourself that. /pol/ is a pro capitalist board that will take all the shit that comes with it.

>>135205002
Amazon actually loses money on everything they sell except cloud hosting services. They do this to put their competition out of business. This is what antitrust laws were created to prevent.

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>>135205002
>Doesn't know what a monopoly is
Amazon doesn't have a monopoly, you stupid nigger

>>135205039
Trump will avenge the death of the mall

>>135222209
git gud

>>135223412
They killed those businesses and now make them sell on amazon until they replace them with their own inventory or their own in-house product. On top of that, they take a cut from your profit and you must sell merchandise at their already ridiculously low prices. I actually know and worked for people that had stores on Amazon. They all failed and lost a lost of money, I'm talking $200K down the drain. What happens is... you invest $$$ in your own inventory, compete with 10 other sellers at unsustainable prices, ship at your expense every time, until you begin to starve and have no choice but to sell off your inventory to the Amazon warehouse for pennies on the dollar. Then it's sorry sucker! Thanks for the free labor and practically free inventory!

>>135213924
>t. Eurocuck too poor to buy 1 share of Amazon.

>>135226383
Lol, you are a fucking mental reprobate if you think we can't have meaningful reform just cause we are "capitalist" lmao, go suck off the GDP you faggot.

>>135226440
>retard understanding of economics.
They have a constantly-growing revenue but low income. They turn a profit from individual sales, but they reinvest most of it into growth.

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>>135226473

They have everything m8

>>135210572
who is that semen demon in your pic?

>>135226943
Yep, and their in-house product is outsourced chink shit that blows ass, they are using every tactic to pinch pennies like the kikes they are.

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Soon to be American.

I really don't care. Amazon is such a convenience, walmart too, that i truly couldn't care. The negative impact it has on the economy is only felt at the lowest levels.

And those levels are going to collapse into themselves soon, regardless of what we do to knock out the supports. The sooner it happens, the faster the restructuring can occur. Whether that shifts into information technology or scamming elderly wealthy people, who knows.

I just know i fucking hate people and they'd set me on fire for a loaf of bread given the slightest provocation.

Amazon products are more expensive than going to the store and buying something. Amazon is typically more expensive than buying it from other sites with slower shipping.

So, if it's more expensive to buy on Amazon, how is Amazon pushing out other competitors in an antitrust manner? It's almost like the opposite of antitrust. Customers want to buy from Amazon because they provide the superior service despite the higher prices. It sounds more like you guys want the government to regulate Amazon, which is frankly the most ironic thing from you guys.

>>135226943
>Low prices is oppressing me -waaah-
Jesus Christ dude, at least make an attempt to think critically. A new business with low prices and more convenience replacing old businesses with unnecessarily high prices IS A GOOD THING. It's part of what makes (somewhat) free market capitalism superior to whatever bullshit economic system you support.

>>135205002
You don't get it.

I go into an ACE Hardware and buy a shovel or a rake. Good possibility I picked up a piece of shit that's going to break on me. It's hard to find good tools these days.

I go onto Amazon, I can buy a shovel or a rake that has ten thousand 5 star reviews, giving me some kind of assurance that it's probably not a complete piece of shit.

Electronics. Tools. FOOD.

Why would I go chance it in a brick and mortar store? Do you think the people at the brick and mortar stores even know what the fuck they're selling?

Go into an Ace Hardware and ask for their highest rated shovel. Dude is going to look at you like you're some kinda fruitcake.

Amazon is the future. It's cheaper. More efficient. You're more likely to get something you actually like. And you get free shipping.

The downside is that it's killing human interaction, killing small towns, and neets literally don't ever, ever, need to leave the house cause they can find everything they could ever hope to want on Amazon.

With free shipping.

>>135205002
>This should not be legal.
Why not you fucking kike?

>>135205002
>Invest in Amazon stock? Yes! Let's feed a corporation tons of money, enable them to destroy every business/job in our town
OP is so clearly a shill who is looking at AMZN stock wishing he owned it pre-1000$

>>135227217
SON OF A BITCH OP IS RIGHT

>>135227364
Okey doke, just know that you will feel like a lifeless husk after your trils to Walmart suck the essence from your being.

>>135205002
Fuck local business! I love being able to order my cat litter online. I love big business, they maybe greedy, but i dont really give a fuck. You live, you make money, you sell out to the man, and than you die. Life is simple, just go with it retard.

>>135205002

Amazon is awful.

Loves to employ sandniggers, shill muslim bullshit and LGBT shit.

Fuck Bezos and his bullshit faggotry that is propping up the Chinese.

>>135205002
Reminder that Amazon only turned a profit of $2.5 billion last year and would actually LOSE money without gubmint gibs and subsidies. The more I learn about these large companies the angrier I get. Just look at Elon Musk. It seems the only way to make it anymore is to get some sweet gov gibs.

>>135227875
Good point anon. There are no natural monopolies. Nowhere in history. All monopolies been created by the government

>>135219839
Dems won't do shit. Silicon Valley owns them. The minority leader is from San Francisco.

>>135227875
Thats because the public is spending all their money on avocado toast. They dont want to take a chance on people, they just care about themselves. The government is the only one willing to give these people a chance

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>>135227755
I come from a country where the average internet speed is slower than Africa's, and the education system is on par with Turkey and Romania.

I really couldn't give a fuck. I want cheap shit and i want all of it.

>>135207479
i'm with friedrich august. the issue i have is when the govt interfere and they put regulations and taxes which crush small business because the big corps are donating to the corrupt politicians.

>>135225897
>Just bought Amazon stock today.
>Did I goofed?
If you bought at the peak ($1,040-1,070) then kinda, It'll prolly be back up to $1,080 by the end of next week, unless there's another (((correction))) then you fucked up. but don't panic sell tho if you can buy dat dip.

>>135228110
>the public is spending all their money on avocado toast.

good goy its the publics fault for government/business corruption

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>>135205002
>destroy the local community
>destroy small family based villages
>destroy the family unit itself
>HURRR DURRRR WHY WONT YOU BUY SHIT FROM MOM AND POPS ANYMORE?!?!
sage

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Iz best natural be big and consume all. iz way to God.

>>135228230
>jew memes
not taking you serious anymore. Has anyone ever taken you serious?

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>>135205002
When will /pol/ learn that interventionism never works.

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>>135228333
>he doesn't post jew memes
Why are you on /pol/?
Is someone paying you to post here?

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>>135205002
Well at least I know you aren't a jew, you have a 13 year olds understanding of how public stocks work.

>>135227550
This

My fucking Mom got a job at home depot. She's physically illiterate and useless for housework.

If I wanted to be minimum wage pointed to an Isle vs speaking to some guy whos fixed everything broken he's set his eyes on like it was in the 90's I'd still go to home depot often.

Today I in one scroll of a mouse wheel effectively talk to hundreds of people who not only fixed their problem, but bought this specific item to do it.
What's more I can be reasonably certain these people do not have inherent conflict of interest present in seller-buyer relationship


Sure, they need to fix their review spamming system but still works most of the time for me.

>>135228079
Yeah I know, that's why we have to take control, this could get big support from the working class

>>135228127
>slow internet is a reason to leave your country
>complains about education
>moves to Americca
Boy do i have news for you, but it seems you are already a consumerist insect man. Welcome to america bugboy.

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>>135229005
America is the land of opportunity for those with opportunity, and a breeding ground for slaves to service the betters.

>>135227550

(This)

For better or for worse, technology is replacing human interaction.

Social Media, Porn, Video Games, Amazon, etc

>>135205002
Fuck dude, I don't even live in the US and prefer to buy Amazon before buying local if the item doesn't weigh much/they actually ship here. I'd probably never ever leave the house if we had anything resembling Amazon.

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>>135228333
Lol, ok kike

>>135229126
Pathetic

>>135229144
Its for a lot worse, you can already see the outcomes in desensitized and autistic millennials who don't even talk to each other. Pornographic addicted beta males and vidya addicted nerd virgins.

The market shouldn't be free to a certain extent to where it takes over completely. Quit being extremists morons. National Socialism is the perfect balance of left and right ideals. (((They))) realized that and made sure to keep you brainlets on the extreme. Call me edgy, but look in the mirror first.

>>135222805
Dibbling a basketball can be considered "inefficient". Why bounce the ball, when you could just run around with it in your hands? When a player dibbles, it gives the opponent a reasonable chance to gain possession. Without this rule, the game would be unplayable. You get it now Mr. Efficiency? Or would you prefer watching Leboon James death grip the ball and walk up to the basket un-challenged?

>>135230114
This, fur focks sake, a nazi is more reasonable than libertarian losers. Have fun getting ass raped by McDonalds faggots.

>>135205002
Fuck off kike, so Costco is also a monopoly? There is plenty of online stores to choose, Amazon is one of the best, that is why is so big.

>>135230240
These people are bugmen, they are slaves to efficiency. Even if it disrupts society and social cohesion, there's nothing they can do because they have already capitulated their humanity to the advancements of technology. These are the same types of " people" who support unfettered immigration because the "GDP goes up" and would sell their mother for a gift card of their favorite Globohomo corporation.

>>135207479
We're not forced to which makes it more insidiousness. It plays on peoples' laziness. Why get up and waste time and gas going to the store when you can just go to Amazon, click a few things and your stuff arrives a few days later? Even worse, look at how they purchased Whole Foods because now they're getting into grocery delivery. Combine that with Prime same-day delivery and guess what? You don't even need to go to your grocery store, just sit in your computer chair and order your Cheetos, Poptarts and Dr. Pepper and let the nice Amazon driver deliver it to your door later that day.

Convenience doesn't force you to use one product or the other but it sure does make the choice not much of a choice at all. Combine that with the move to non-physical money (debit cards, credit cards, etc.) and stuff like one-click payment which makes it even easier for the average person to just buy stuff without thinking and blowing through money or putting them deeper into debt. It's an absolutely wretched state that kills businesses and enables torpor.

>>135231286
you mean a automated self driving car brings you your stuff or a automated drone

>>135231286
It also destroys organic social interactions you would have with people in your community. It atomizes people from each other.

>>135205002

This applies to too many areas now (if not most):
Blame the shitty stupid, LAZY consumers.
Literally nothing but Walmarts, chain stores & nail salons lining endless miles of garbage strip malls because consumers demanded more of these, and unique independents went out of business. Fat fricks won't walk more than a couple yards to, or for, anything anymore.
Now these lazy fricks can choose between driving to Walmart & crap chains, or Amazon which delivers to their door.

>>135205002
...how is Amazon a monopoly again? I order from them maybe once a year

>>135225450
Good idea. I will make a company so efficient, that it will kill your job and any other possible prospects so I can pay for your welfare and give you a budget to consume my cheap shitty goods. The fidget spinner comes free as well.

>>135205002
Nigger most shit is cheaper on amazon, let alone on other online sites. I went to the micro center the other day to buy a monitor, it costed 50 dollars more in store than on amazon.

>jews being jewed
haha eat shit

>>135231735
Stop victim blaming!

But in earnestness you are correct, it all comes back to selfish shits favoring garbage chains instead of their locals, neighbors and family owned stores. If I could afford it I wouldn't shop at these soulholes either.

>>135225897
Good goy. Don't invest in yourself, Gib all your shekels to master Bezos. Think about quick money right now, don't think about long-term wealth! That's for master Bezos, not you.

>>135205002
communist get out

(((>>135232621)))
(((>>135232621)))

>>135226161
Any kind of profit you make on ebay is eaten away by seller fees and shipping costs and they only keep rising.

>>135231735
>lazy fricks
what are you...12?

>>135231903
Lol retard logic at its finest. It might as well be, "I don't work or pay taxes, so I don't see a tax problem" (You)

>>135232854
>make money doing anything online
>government decides to come in and put a 10% GST on it
>now you make no money
god bless australia

>>135205002

Amazon is massive but it won't be able to beat the supermarket chains. That would require huge domestic supply chains, like Walmart, Amazon doesn't have that yet. Basically Amazon requires UPS, FedEx and the USPS to be its supply chain.

This is the only reason why Walmart still exists, and most grocery chains will likely survive Amazon's moves into the space although their margins could fall significantly.

>>135227550
>Why would I go chance it in a brick and mortar store? Do you think the people at the brick and mortar stores even know what the fuck they're selling?

Whole post is spot-on. There was a time back in the day when you went to K-Mart or outlet stores for the very cheap merchandise. Now you go to any brick & mortar for that same (cheap) quality but pay old Macy's prices from back when they WERE quality.
Selection? Good luck. Quality, likewise. Lucky if the shit don't fall apart after a few uses. And don't get me started on being harassed by cashiers to get their "card" because data mining is actually more profitable to these corps than the crap they sell.
Depending on your area, have to go online for ANYTHING unique and won't fall apart.

>>135205002
>idiocracy

Do you know how I know that you're a faggot? SJW buzzword bullshit, that's how.

>>135217412

Yes they are.

>>135226837
yeah i mean it was a legit question ..

>>135205002
idk I havent bought a single thing from amazon in like 3 years.Although at my job I'm adding new Amazon Distribution centers practically every week to our records. it seems like. The company is growing like mad. Fucking why tho?it makes no sense to me.

>>135231976
Good deal, you are literally giving me products for free. In fact, I hope automation moves us to that way

jeff bezos needs to be taken down. he a globalist cuck who love to flood america with immigrants.

he sent an email to the entire company says how much he was against the so called muslim travel ban

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>>135205002
>be local store
>charge 15-50% markup just because you can
>be surprised when people dont want to buy your shit

There's no reason you should be charging me $10-$50 more for the exact same product. I know you greedy cunts get that shit wholesale.

>>135233379
>why though

They are increasing efficiency and their control over the market. The good goyium here think that Amazon isn't a monopoly, but they will learn once any competition is swamped, they will be able to charge any price. Same thing Walmart does, undercut local business until they run out of money and then raise prices after the competetors go broke.

>>135233150
>Basically Amazon requires UPS, FedEx and the USPS to be its supply chain.

Unless they can figure out the drone shit, that could really change the dynamic.

>>135233859
Yeah cause I really want a bunch of drones flying around my neighborhood taking video of me and sending it to some (((Google))) database.

>>135233859
Amazon already has their own logistics shit going on.

>>135227664
The sarcasm went right over your head, didn't it.

>>135227814

listen here cuck, the only thing propping up the chinese is cheap oil and low interest rates. When thats gone so is their economy, and probably a big part of ours as well.

We still have more coal, oil, natural gas and land and fewer mouths to feed than China. Buying their cheap shit is not a problem.

>>135233663
>charge 15-50% markup just because you can

Brick and mortar stores have a lot more expenses than a warehouse in buttfuckville like Amazon.

>>135233150

you stupid fuck, not only it amazon buys their own airplanes, they are already having peasants deliver packages with their amazon flex system

>>135232174
See this is what I'm talking about

I went to the store and bought like 5 things for $120. I looked on Amazon and got the exact same shit and more for only $100.

These local businesses are all buying at the same fucking price from the supplier, so why do they charge $50 extra?

>>135232873
Probably old enough to be your (hypothetical) child's grandmother. Watched it all go to hell, and people get lazier -- and dumber. This is the consumers of MY generation's fault.

>>135233859

Drones are great, the problem is they aren't efficient enough yet to haul cheap things. Maybe deliver pizza or something very essential.

>>135213491
Gee, I wonder what compels business owners mark up their inventory so high.
>europe

Oh yeah..

>Amazon runs and effcient company on new technology
>Amazon invests it profits back into itself
>investors delay gratificatoin of dividends for future growth
>customers get cheap products, great service, and convenience

soacialists, politicans, retards: autistic screeching

>>135234257
Amazon provides free shipping too - that's an enormous expense.

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>>135233725
meh. I shop at walmart all the time. Even the grocery stuff is cheaper than my local big box grocery store. have I become old fashioned in my enjoyment of actually picking out an item by hand and not just clicking it online? I'm almost 30. is that caveman age now?

>>135205002
>Why are we letting this monopoly silently destroy our local economies?
Excellent question. There was a time in America when monopolies were illegal. And it is not just Amazon. Google - how can a search engine company now have so many branches into other areas? Cars, really?? They are purposely destroying all the classic, original American businesses (JCPenney's, Wooworths, Sears, etc.) so that they can take over with their handful of businesses which will control everything.

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>>135227773
Yes masder, u alway know what id besd for me

>>135234342
Amazon sells at a loss, and has for years. They do it to get market shares so when everyone else is closed down and the government is dependent on them, they can raise prices without consequence.

They didn't expect Trump to win.

>>135205002
so what are you saying are they getting giant tax breaks or something? what loopholes are amazon and Walmart using to have the advantage? I know amazon *usedto hve no tax, but now they pay tax, Walmart has always paid tax, they pay their employees just as much as other retailers: I mean, Walmart is just big...and I know what you're going to say "Walmart uses china." well, which china? What's the real issue here? Chinese exploitation or Walmart? Walmart doesn't completely sell all Chinese products right? I think the actual issue here is a: we need better restrictions on china (mainland china, not Taiwan) which trump is doing: and we need to have online retailers pay taxes: because once they do, everything will be the *actual price. and they won't be able to compete.you know what I bet is connected to paying taxes on the internet? n e t n e u t r a l I t y. equal data, eequal tax. amazon gets the benefits of small business tax because online retailers get a tax break which is how what you buy online is cheaper.

>>135227013

And salaries and bonuses.

>>135234501
Walmart where I live is the same price as Publix for many things. And you often get lower quality shit too.

Even Walmart is expensive now.

>>135234211
Lol, why prop up their lead children toy economy if you don't have to faggot? Why capitulate, you are weak and pathetic cuckservative bitch.

>>135234270

Yes, and if Amazon flex puts USPS and UPS out of business is that a good thing or a bad thing for Amazon? A bad thing.

Its not a bad thing for Walmart, or Grocery stores or most retailers that have their own supply chains.

>>135234834

pls let USPS die

>>135234646
They don't sell at a loss. You're wrong. And if not, then you can prove so.

The second part of your post is probably correct, they are going to raise prices as they become more successful, just like Walmart has done.

>>135234908
Fuck you corporate shill, USPS is awesome

>>135205002

They are an online monopoly. As long as the internet is free and uncensored they can do what they want and get however big they want.

Not Amazons fault people would rather shop online then get stabbed and robbed by niggers at the local Walmart.

>>135234451
is anyone here saying amazon isnt ran well?
fuck you retard!

what about the fag enabling?
what about the shitskin hiring?
what about amazon becoming a monopoly?
what about the shitty pay?

>>135234810

No, its stupid not too. If you can get a cheaper screw, or hammer that has 99% of the functionality you do it. If thats whats propping up their economy so what? Its saves us more money to do it, then build more expensive machinery or more capital intensive projects. This is why we can afford to be assholes and have living standards 10 times better than the average Chinese.

>>135234451
Fuck off you worthless shit, you are literally worthless, you suck corporate cock to fill your mind because you are a mental midget and have no original ideas. Your posts are worhtless you ancap shit, now go sell your ass to Bezos before he pays you to kill yourself. Tell me what the market rate is for your boypucci!

>>135234834
its a good thing for amazon you fucking retard. i work for amazon and i already have seen the amazon branded trailers and trucks.

i predict that amazon will get into the delivery business.

>>135235039
I don't mind Amazon for the time being because every fucking business now days thinks they can just keep raising the prices of everything by whatever fucking dollar amount they want. Just as an example, back in February my grocery store raised the prices of a lot of their staple goods by like 50 cents each. That doesn't sound like a lot but when you have some 30 items in your cart and that 50 cents is 15-25% of the cost, it's fucking absurd.

>>135208492
There's no cost of entry to make an online "business", but you're going to realize you make more money being a part of Amazon instead of being off on your own.
But yeah if there's a clear need from consumers for your product and they're excited, sure you can. Comparing that to the trillions of a Mars rocket is absurd

>>135234908

USPS is the only reason Ebay and Amazon can work. USPS will always win. Its the low cost, gov't run shipper. Once it updates its fleet of delivery vans.

>>135234678
US post office deals to get less cost on shipping.
http://fortune.com/2017/07/16/amazon-postal-service-subsidy/

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>>135211949
See how we haven't recovered since the dotcom crash? The tech bubble destroyed the US and we haven't recovered since then.

>>135235454
Clearly you've never tried to buy a decent domain name

>>135235548

you're fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucking retard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! amazon could easily get into the delivery business.

>>135235386

No, Amazon can't get into the delivery business. Its competing with its own suppliers. The very nature of this competition would be to make deliveries less efficient. They would likely act as a cartel and block it by raising prices. That or Amazon would have buy one of them.

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>>135212355
Inflation killed America, and if you can't see the bubble about to pop; you're doomed.

>>135225700

Tough tits faggot, there's limited resources in this world and nobody owes you anything. There's no masking the weak nature of demanding a better man give way to you because you exist.

>>135235454
>no cost to start an online business
I know you live in Canada, but that's dreamland man

>>135231903
You're in the minority, friendo

>>135235820

They would form a cartel, they already give Amazon a discount why would they just give away their entire business to Amazon?

>>135235647
You're kinda missing the whole part about bank home loan derivatives failure.

>>135231286
>You don't even need to go to your grocery store, just sit in your computer chair and order your Cheetos, Poptarts and Dr. Pepper and let the nice Amazon driver deliver it to your door later that day.
Or you can spend the time reading to your kids.
You're literally arguing against freedom because people might squander it

>>135234342
>These local businesses are all buying at the same fucking price from the supplier, so why do they charge $50 extra?
I understand they want to make profit tho anon, just trying to support their families like every other American. But, desu the only way I will overpay is, if I'm too lazy to wait, or I'm buying stuff for under 100. Groceries are not included, fuck amazon groceries, otherwise I would support mom and pops shops. I wanted to buy a printer from mc it was 90 dollars cheaper in staples though, but more expensive on amazon.

>>135213924
Only because they turn around and spend it. Amazon is worth hundreds of billions. They recently bought Whole Foods.

Amazon is going to continue to buy up every last sector. Watch.

>>135235973
who would form a cartel?

did i claim delivery companies would give up themselves to amazon?

>>135205002

>Amazon about to open in Australia
>Wesfarmers too busy mismanaging its companies and driving the dairy industry into the ground to prepare for it

It'll be a bloodbath

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>>135235661
>>135235932
There are sites that give you a free online business website and take a cut
There are free domains
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Free+business+website

>>135213924
amazon intentionally have low profits as a tax dodging strategy. they save more money by spending their money quickly.

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>>135207479

It doesn't need to be a monopoly to be a giant fucking problem.

It killing retail (and the jobs that go with it) because it is has tax advantages over brick and mortar stores.

The big suckers are its shareholders. Amazon never pays dividends even though its price soars. Eventually the party will be over and a lot of idiots will be ruined.

>>135205002
this is op
>oh no! someone is doing a better job than me and it's even giving their products lower prices!
>someone please do something! government help!
>stop those madmen who want to lower the prices of the same stuff I sell!
>yes we need people to buy the same stuff for higher prices and give them a poorer service, but it's for their own good
>yes please keep the prices higher and the fed money printing machine going
kys

>>135212021
When's the last time you were in a staples? They sell all kinds of dumb shit for too much

>>135207479
i dont believe amazon is a monopoly but i predict it will be. you should break up companies BEFORE they become monopolies.

>>135237160
I wonder how that could you break a monopoly
oh yes, free market

>>135205002

the whole system is propped up by cheap oil. it's cheaper to make something then ship it across the globe than produce it locally.

cheap oil allows the cheap transport that enables the whole global economic system. as energy gets more expensive, so will the cost of the useless trash you buy online.

>>135237306
kill yourself retard.

you break monopolies through government. name a single instance where the free market decided to break a monopoly

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>>135211805
They always said that. And yet we always do find jobs, as there are always goods and services that humans will desire.
If nothing else I'd say the problem is the high global population. It's hard to remember the global population was 3 billion in 1960.
It's not that there isn't more jobs, it's just a lot more people want a slice of the pie

>>135232854
So charge more. Other businesses have to pay shipping and taxes too.

>>135207037
This. Amazon is good for finding stuff that I can't describe well, and gives me the proper name of the item so I can go look elsewhere.

Good for ebooks though.

>>135237492
every single product, store and service that's available to you
government creates monopolies

>>135237160
The government shouldn't touch any business that isn't harming consumers.

If google fiber was in every city for $10/month 1 gigabit line, would you get pissed and say the government needs to force them to close so the old cable companies can compete back? Let the businesses compete, innovate and get rid of the old naturally.

>>135234733
As someone that works for Amazon. Lol. "Bonuses"

Bezos and Amazon are using the gooks as muscle against you, exploiting the USPS and using the tons of money to lobby against your interests. Keep bending over, it only hurts the first couple times faggots.

>>135231286

> victim narrative

sigh...

>>135235931
Could you imagine an "alpha" caveman walking around with a bag on his back the size of a truck which is filled with 99% of all the animas in the ecosystem he has killed for food? His appetite has already been satisfied beyond necessity. Why the fuck does he need all those extra carcasses? There is nothing left for his fellow "beta" cavemen to eat and they will starve. Is it the beta's fault that the 1 retarded alpha genocided it's entire kind out of existence?

>>135238867
What if you parents worked at a cable company and Google killed their job through automation? Still not harming anyone? Well, at least you'll be able to jackoff to highspeed internet porn for only $10/month.

I N N O V A T I V E

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>>135205002
businesses need to sales the right shit at a good price. target and walmart are mostly what there is to choose from offline

>>135242092
Any amount of money they saved buying from amazon was taken through taxes. Morons

>>135231661
>you're on 4chan
>on the net
>stfu

>>135244649
you should revive the horse industry, those pesky car makers are making people travel faster but they're killing my mom and pop horse breeding and horse stables business

>>135212746
>Amazon isn't a middleman

Consider suicide.

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>>135244649
were you laid off or something?

>>135245217
What? The automotive industry created so many well paying jobs for the economy, are you retarded? Amazon has done nothing but kill jobs.

>>135245777
No I'm not a liberal, I don't project.

>>135245844
so is amazon run by ghosts?

>>135212149
>walmart
Worst corporation to ever exist, probably why hillary was their lawyer back in the day

>>135205002

if the US economy is failing because products are being offered across the country at reasonable prices, then there's something more wrong with the system than with the company taking advantage of it

>>135246000
No, it's run by Mexican slaves like yourself.

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>>135236328
>infinite freedom is good

>>135246395
dvd and blueray discs are "hecho en meixco"

>>135246395
poor mexicans they're slaves even if they don't know, they work for lower wages cause they're not retarded and they know that's the easiest way to take your jobs, someone must do something! so the products where mexicans work don't get lower prices!

>>135230699
>shortsighted niggers
Bug men is a good term too, what most people dont realize is true self interest and actual greed leads one to realizing at one point or another youre going to need a few teammates in order to maximize potential and profit due to being able to off a variety of strats and market power plays much more precisely when working in tandem with someone you consider an equal.
In order to avoid feelings of resentment the best deal for both parties must be reached because in the long run this is more beneficial for each party involved.
It is truly being even more well versed in the ways of kabalah than even most jews.

>>135227531
>Amazon products are more expensive than going to the store and buying something

Not for me it isn't, but then I only buy anime off it, which no one within an hours drive sells anymore now that HMV is closed, and for whatever reason Funimation sells its products on Amazon.ca cheaper then its own website.

Let me open a business!

>That will require a business license
>That will require a fee to have it inspected
>That will require random ass codes to be enforced that are asinine and costs money
>That will require a shit load of taxes to be paid even if you barely making it as a business already just starting up
>Business failed

It's all Amazons fault!

>>135248486

Food and essentialls are inflated in price in Amazon.

Clothing is hardly a good deal on Amazon if you aren't buying name brand stuff.

Really, Amazon only offers a good deal on books, movies, gadgets, and the like and most of the time ebay offers those cheaper if you don't mind waiting a few days for the delivery.

Amazon is handy, but it is hardly a juggernaut of savings that people make it out to be.

>>135248952
blame the government for the paperwork and requirements

>>135249190
>Food and essentialls are inflated in price in Amazon.

Wait people actually buy those from Amazon?

>>135227531

>Amazon products are more expensive than going to the store and buying something

Lol, not in Hawaii.

>>135249190
their stuff is often costs 10% less unless your getting something from a third party

>>135205002
long term Amazon is going to win out, I'd go for their stock personally. ask /biz/

>Walmart is cancer too. They are literally a wholesaling warehouse that sells directly to consumers instead of retailers. This should not be legal.
>sells directly to consumers instead of retailers. This should not be legal.
kys kike

>>135249439
i'm not talking grocery store items; i've never looked at those. i would trust mailed perishables.

>>135205002

Internet retail store owner here.

I hope Amazon fucking blows itself up. They fucked online retail for small businesses big-time, everyone expects MUH FREE SHIPPING now, and when you deal in low-margin, heavy, larger items as I do, it's just not fucking possible.

But, they did what they set out to do - kill off about 50% of small to medium online competitors in their war with Wal-Mart, the rest of us have been scraping up the leftover bits, but I expect maybe 2 years before I'll fold at the rate things are going just because shipping costs, business taxes, employee costs, and general overhead keep going up and I'm not making a fucking dime more now than I did 5 years ago.

FUCK AMAZON
FUCK AMAZON
FUCK AMAZON

Fuck 'em.

>>135249842
git gud at business faggot

>>135246408
>implying the free market isn't good
reminder that this is only happening because there is a demand for it, and instead of actually trying to address the issues, kikes are trying to ruin something that benefits the end consumer

>>135246408
>freedom is only good when it's government mandated
Yeah let big daddy congress tell you what you should and shouldn't buy.

>>135249980
You have no idea what a monopoly is do you?

>>135249842
good, fuck you if you don't bring something better than amazon or alibaba or any other webstore out there then prepare to do something else

>>135250171

But what if the goal is to turn the population into useless consumers.

This is not something they will resist, it is something they will embrace. If you know a car crash is coming, shouldn't you swerve?

>>135250294
here in mexico we have webstores that are doing great with free shipping, improve or die

>>135250411
>Here in Mexico

Yeah comparing a third world shithole to a first world nation isn't a thing people in the first world do.

>>135250488
>a first world nation can't do something a third world country can
you sure showed me

>>135250294
There's absolutely nothing preventing you from improving in some way that makes your business competitive with Amazon faggot
Perhaps stop being a whiny bitch about it, trying to force the government to intervene because "muh big bad amazon" offered free shipping and hurt your fee--fees, and come up with some innovative business solution?

>>135219839
Why must Bezos be stopped from becoming the richest man in the world? I'm all for monopolies if they are charitable.

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>>135250374
>But what if the goal is to turn the population into useless consumers.
that is a good point, but I think you're giving them too much credit, pic related.

Its a vicious cycle, which is why we tend to have things like watchdog groups keeping an eye on business in case they actually do something shady, such as paying for false reviews (which is something that some sellers on Amazon, Ebay, and even small business are known to do, its everywhere.)

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>>135250171
>>135250272
Reminder that the average IQ in the US is 98 and dropping. Your ancap and libertarian ideologies work fine in theory and could maybe even work in an ethnostate but that's not where we live now is it?

>>135251087
my IQ is a verified 127 faggot

>>135251180
>my IQ is 127
>didn't even comprehend what I wrote
Interesting response, quick to anger are we? I am suggesting getting out of your head and into the real world. Your ideology works on paper but not with average fucking retards that we live with. Sounds like you haven't read enough books.

>>135205002
Good, I hope all malls die. The only people who will suffer are low Iq minimum wage slaves and (((mall))) and (((store))) (((owners))) whilst everyone else will benefit from lower prices. Malls feed into a degenerate consumer culture and they waste space. When these malls close down, they'll be turned into indoor parks and experience centres.

>>135250962

>but I think you're giving them too much credit

I think you don't give them enough credit. Average I.Q. drops and drops while new "diseases" pop up that require maintenance for life.

It's all connected. Pharma, Agriculture, Media. All of it.

>>135205002
Jeff Bozos will do worst than Bill Gates when it comes to grilling from DOJ.

Bill Gates was actually more alpha than Jeff Bozos when he was CEO in the 1990s.

Jeff Bozos had a far easier time than Bill Gates did.

>>135251469

>DOJ doing anything to DARPA assets

Doubtful.

Bust 'em up!

>>135251357
>didn't even comprehend what I wrote
It doesn't take a genius to see what you were implicating you nigger
And furthermore, I could say the exact same about what you are trying to defend here, overly strict government oversight on the market has proven to be very damaging on a number of occasions in the past.

>>135231661
bigger problem than it sounds. underrated post here

>>135251180

My problem with the libertarian stance, what happens when the corporations buy out portions of the government?

It's an inevitable consequence.

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>>135251617
Then why are you acting like a fucking moron? Did I say overly strict? I think you are lying about your IQ or you are extremely autistic.

>>135251434
Reminder that a lot of those markets are subsidized by the federal government

>>135251638
>All libertarian stances are the same
That's like suggesting that all of conservatism can be summed up by the neo-GOP
modern lobbyists are cancer, they push to restrict the free market, not the opposite.

>>135205002
>people buying shit from Amazon
fucking normies. I get everything I need from torrenting, Abebooks.com (similar to Amazon but cheaper) and Marshalls. Last time I bought something from Amazon, I think it was in 15 when I was a dumbfuck and didn;t know anybetter. KYS Normies

>>135250765
Try starting a business anon, you'll see just how hopeless things are.

>>135251718
>he says while posting a shitty autistic meme.
No need to be so butthurt about having a shitty ideology anon

>>135251830
I run a small private business in a niche market, I'm doing just fine.

>>135250916
Charitable like HRC? You really think that money goes to anybody in need?

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>>135251760

>Reminder that a lot of those markets are subsidized by the federal government

You're dealing in their money, all markets are inherently subsidized by them.

>>135251830
I wonder who's fault is it, i'll help you, it starts with g and ends in overnment

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>>135205002
electronic media is killing the printing industry. Do your part by paper goods.

>>135212149
>we have walmarts and we have mcdonalds and everyone is a slave
Not everyone. I think life is ok desu. If you've studies American History, you'd be conscious of these cycles. THe only problem today is that we have no 'unsettled' continent to send our children to.

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>>135251895
>libertarians are the best goys, just leave these monopolies alone!

You don't even know what I am you fucking retard.

>>135251638
Libertarians have such an overinflated sense their own abilities that they believe that when the time comes when corporatocracy will inevitably be fully instated, they'll be the ones on top ruling over the neo serfs when really, unless they're already apart of the elite class, they'll probably fare as bad as the rest of us. Poor and middle class Libertards are the useful idiots of the (((elite)))

>>135252074
I don't need to, in order to know its shit

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>>135225202
>Bezos was literally the richest man in the world moments ago
Are you sure about that? Though he is on wikipedia's and Forbes' richest people lists, he doesn't seem all that rich when compared to the Rothschilds.

>>135225138
>dehumanizes everyone involved
Welcome to life. You sound like a fucking 14 year old cunt. We need to talk money and numbers here- tax fraud and the like and none of this humpdy dumpdy little babyshit.

>>135251895
>in a niche market,
this. I know tons of intelligent ambitious young men doing this. In this age, creativity and persistence will be our god. system>goal, and don't you forget it.

>>135205002
It's easy to undercut the competition while trading for such a low profit when you're propped up by the CIA

>>135251525
Replacing Bozos with a puppet is more preferable.

>>135252009
No it is not. I own a business in the print industry. The only thing that's dead is the newspaper. Just look around your room, you'll see that nearly every object has some sort of printed label, logo or branding on it. In fact, the print industry is expected to top $980B in 2018.

>>135253260
t. pedant

>>135244649
>through automation
it's happening whether you like it or not. Self-driving cars is going to destroy the largest amount of jobs in the history of this world. 40% of jobs are in transportation. Lucky for me, I do programming, chemical engineering, music (classical guitar), standard mathematics (up to Real Analysis and Partial Differential Equatoins), and have very good people and communication skills. Get goood or get out while you still can. Funny thing is I'm working on a happy suicide pill where people kill themselves happily. Standard suicide is a mess and very ugly.