Americans - Join me in going vegan!

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enjoy your low sperm count

>>135159307
You know, you don't need to be a vegan to lose weight and be healthy.

been vegan for a year now, it was a great move I'm never going back. It's hard to get b12, iron, and zinc. Take a b12 supplement every day and eat a lot of hemp seeds, or at least make sure you get zinc and iron. Took a little bit for me to adjust, but fat started melting and I didn't lose much muscle.

>>135159682
You don't, but it makes it easier. Plus it's the best thing for you, the environment, and the animals. Win-Win

Several of those items in the photo contain sugar.

Sugar free is unhealthy anyways.

>>135159307

Bacon.

>>135159307
>NO SUGAR
>EATS FRUIT

>15lbs in 3 months
HA try keto you faggot, got double those results and i didn't have to force 30 pounds of leaves down my fucking throat every day

The human natural state is to be omnivorous. Its on my best interest that this continues, so I wont join you on your self-destructive behavior.

Plus, vegans are faggots.

>trying to get away from propaganda
>breaking conditioning
>takes up a brainwashed practice

Vegan of 7 years reporting in. Good on you.

That's about all I have to say. Back to waiting for my HAPPENING.

>>135160344
Fruits with sugar are not the same as refined sugar. The body still has to break down the food which contains the sugar and it releases much slower into the blood stream. Whereas refined sugar enters the bloodstream pretty much at the gums

>>135160546
Yes, I have tried quite a number of diets, including dropping 50 pounds (210 to 160) in 3 months time following Tim Ferris's slow carb diet mixed with a ton of cold immersion.

The point of the diet is not to lose weight on my end, as I could easily do it in other ways, but to reduce my cholesterol levels and get my potential risk for heart disease in check. Also, I don't really think humans were designed to eat so much meat.

>>135159541
Already have one kid faggot stay a virgin

>>135159307
Westerners aren't fat and unhealthy because they ate too much meat.

so how about that b12, then?

>>135159307

I've been on a vegan diet for a month now. The changes I've seen is that I don't feel the need to jack off like an animal. This is a benefit for me because I can use that time towards something productive instead of searching for porn. My erectile dysfunction has improved MASSIVELY. Getting rock hard boners now. Also, I've noticed that I'm more in control of my adrenaline whether it's driving, playing vidya, or shitposting on here. Really helps. Been eating beans, vegetables, and fruit and now I don't sleep for more than 3 hours a day. It's crazy.

>>135161905
>I don't really think humans were designed to eat so much meat.
We became an apex species because of our meat heavy diet. Meat, cooked properly, is a health food.

>>135162045
Not necessarily no, but cutting down on (red) meat (not entirely) could offer health benefits

>>135159307
Eternal reminder that all vegans, without exception, are cucks.

Only an animal evolved to be a carnivore can develop a brain large and complex enough that it could consider the morality of being a carvnivore.

>>135159307
Going vegan is too hard, i like fish and cheese... and im too retarded to spice vegetables properly

>>135159307
>>Eliminated all sugar from my diet May 1st
>Posts picture with kilos of sugar.
True vegan.

>>135162273
Nah, we became an apex species because of our intelligence and ability to use tools. Our closest genetic relatives the chimpanzees eat a diet of 75% fruit, and mostly green leafy vegetables afterwards. The caloric density of meat is pretty low in regards to it's nutrition. No other meat eaters have to cook their meat either. Sharks, Big Cats, Wolves, all gorge on raw meat and have much different teeth than us. Also, the strongest animals on the planet are all vegetarians.

>>135162551
You're mistaking the difference between naturally tied up fructose in sugar, which is quite different from the "pre-digested" refined versions of sugar.

>>135159307
You will never truly have a sugar free diet honestly. You will eventually crave it anyway.

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>>135159307

You actualy need meat faggot i bet you look like a numale with a patchy beard

>>135162269
when's the last time you had a blood test and checked the levels of every single one of your micro nutrients? lol

>>135160280
>best thing for you
>cucks actually believe this

>>135159541
Nice source you have there!

Oh wait, you're just an idiot.

>>135159307
>all sugar
>all
Bullshit. There's a fuck ton of sugar in your very image.

>>135162941
so how about that b12, then?

Fuck off. I'm literally masticating on a giant chunk of beef flank while shatting out meat from 4 hours ago.

>>135163071
Ya.. how about it??

>>135162660
How do you think that big brain developed in the first place? Increased nutrition from animal products.

Animal products are simply more efficient than plant products, thus you have to eat less to get the same amount of nutrition.

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>>135163071
>so how about that B-12, then?
Is that a vegan version of B-52?

>>135163035
You're mistaking the difference between naturally tied up fructose in sugar, which is quite different from the "pre-digested" refined versions of sugar.

Fruits don't have any effects on consciousness, not like refined sugars do. Unless you eat over 3 bananas in a serving.

>>135163175
Within the context of a vegan diet, that's what I'm asking.

>>135163273
Use brown sugar instead of raw sugar. Pr0blem solved.

>>135159307
All those goofy froot loop colors are stressing me out. Where's the meat?

>>135162660
HOLY FUCK, YOU'RE A RETARDED CUNT!!

http://www.npr.org/2010/08/02/128849908/food-for-thought-meat-based-diet-made-us-smarter

We needed meat in order to have brains to grow and be more intelligent you dumb shit. Also;

>vegetarian species are the strongest

CHECK YOUR FUCKING FOOD CHAIN! Goddamn, you must be a nigger to be this stupid!!

>>135163273
>You're mistaking the difference between naturally tied up fructose in sugar
No, I am not. You said "sugar." Not "refined sugar." Your argument from the very start was founded on a lie and you know it.

>>135163359
Still rings my consciousness, fogs me up, can't do 3-4 processes anymore (complicated piano pieces etc.) I've found through experimenting it's generally no different. Same with Agave, Honey, and maple syrup, all the same ringing, fogging brain. I can't believe how I used to live.

>>135163532
Always archive those
https://archive.is/WEjEm

>>135163169
Well, you have a higher chance of dying from cancer or cardiovascular disease. But I'm sure you won't be affected by it.

I bet that steak tastes reeaaal good.

>>135159307
Eating healthy =! being vegan.

If you ate nothing but oreos and potato chips, you're eating a vegan diet.

>>135160174
How much money do you waste on that garbage?

>>135163330
All the vegans I know have normal b12 levels, and usually hear from the doctors that they have the best blood work on any of their patients. I think the belief that you need to only ingest all the nutrients your body needs is quite flawed.

>>135159307
Good. More meat for me then.

>>135163662
Yeah, you're right about that. That shit is disgusting. I rather like to call it a whole foods plant based diet, certainly a lot of unhealthy vegans eating crazy processed food.

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>>135159307
There's a high correlation between mental illness and veganism.
You also have to take supplements to get certain proteins that vegetables cannot provide.
Why would you willingly handicap yourself?

>>135163359

yeah you dont want to do that

Nutrition Facts
Sugar, brown
Amount Per
100 grams
Calories 380
% Daily Value*
Total Fat 0 g 0%
Saturated fat 0 g 0%
Polyunsaturated fat 0 g
Monounsaturated fat 0 g
Cholesterol 0 mg 0%
Sodium 28 mg 1%
Potassium 133 mg 3%
Total Carbohydrate 98 g 32%

>Total Carbohydrate 23 g 7%

This is from a banana it has the highest sugar in a fruit , how more sugar in food how more your blood levels spike , this is unatural and unhealthy

>>135159307
Going vegan or vegetarian is healthy as fuck if you eat your supplements or tune your diet the right way. Good on you OP.

Processed meat is what'll get ya. Plus with all the junk they feed the animals these days, better off just minimizing dietary risks. I still personally eat fish and little chicken now and then, but I've been thinking of going vegetarian at some point.

These B12-bois know they are killing themselves early with their diets but they lack the willpower to let that red meat go.

Fun fact, many of these red meat advocates also smoke cigarettes and would defend that habit till the end too.

Sage

Slide-Thread

Stop replying to stupid threads.

Sage

>>135164280
Isn't a regular vegetarian diet better because you can still eat eggs and cheese? I'm thinking about moving to a more vegetarian diet at some point as well.

>>135164887
Check out Dr. Neal Bernard

>>135164655
Your pea brain can't focus on more than one thing at a time?

>>135159307
Even if you don't give a shit about animal ethics, even if you don't give a shit about the environment, even if you don't give a shit about (((animal product industries))) funding disinformation about cancer, heart disease, and diabetes, even if you don't care about overuse and misuse of antibiotics on farms...

A plant based diet is just better for you.
https://nutritionfacts.org

>>but bacon is yummy.
Good luck making Western Civilization great again with such a weak will.

Now go watch the White House press briefing
https://www.whitehouse.gov/live/press-briefing-press-secretary-sarah-sanders-0

>>135164887

vegan is unhealty vegetarian is healthy just eat eggs and shit fish you need it

>>135165006
Looks interesting, but I see the same things being said about wheat. Doesn't make sense to me when the Mediterranean diet contains wheat and cheese (although very small portions I believe) and it's known as a very healthy diet. I'll continue to research I guess.

>>135165207
This site helped me change my diet, thanks for posting anon

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>>135165207
>Dr. Michael (((Greger)))

Kek, nice try faggot

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>>135159307
You're in good company

>>135166112
"Dr" Greer also said eating one egg harms your body as much as smoking 1000 cigarettes.

He's a total quack. I've met him before a few times, nice guy, but a quack through and through.

Did OP buy into his useless "plant based nutrition course" for $1000?

>>135159307
>Eliminated all sugar from my diet May 1st
Good.
>Eliminated all meat June 1st
Retard.
>About to go Vegan
Full retard.

Also first post spot on post: >>135159541

Meet local producers you trust for meat and vegetables, that use neither growth hormones nor pesticides, avoid vegetables rich in estrogens, avoid xenoestrogens in plastics, cosmetics, and everywhere else you can find them, and indeed, get rid of all sugar, and greatly avoid fruits with the highest sugar content like bananas. Essentially go paleo, with extra cuts on sugar and phytoestrogens. And that's quite the fucking challenge already.

Your initiative is great, but going vegan will just make you a pussy. And a vegan kid has his life fucking ruined, and I guess that's all you need to know about that.

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>>135166112
SH-SHUT IT DOOOOOWWN!!!

>>135166112
Oy vey! Almost got you pesky goyim this time! The thousand studies referenced in-site all are surely part of the grand Zionist conspiracy. Carry on with your double cheddar bacon burger consumption.

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>>135167182
Also pic very related, I checked everything in it with serious studies and I can greenlight 99% of it, the rest being nitpicking.

Here's the real stuff:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16898863
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/159772
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21353476
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21154195
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3712348/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8875519

>>135159307

eliminating meat is stupid.

your body needs vitamin k2 to prevent arterial calcification.

studies here: westonprice.org

>>135160280

no. its not the best thing for you. shitty meme based on faulty studies.

>>135163169
those studies are for the gullible comrade

Huh I'm down 15 pounds since May, too. I switched to eating one salad a day and lots of coffee because I hate spending money on food. Tho I've plateaued again.

>>135167319
I will. And I'll carry on being stronger, more fit, and having more children than you.

>>135159307
I've been lifting on a vegan diet for 6 months and it actually isn't that different. I think being vegan makes it easier to think about every little piece of food you are putting into your body, it has helped me with my macros more than it's messed with them. No sign of increased estrogen production, I have a check up next week.

Veganism is not a meme although I would honestly recommend paleo or Mediterranean diets.

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vegan is the best way. far superior for lots of reasons.

I no longer have potato chips/crisps after my sub sandwiches. What snack should I change it too brehs?

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>>135159307
>no sugar diet
>eats fruit
well which one is it, op?

>>135168537
Jesus christ leaf read the 3 other times this was addressed

>>135168529
Almonds

>>135159307
>literally herbivore man
Can you be more beta than that? Omega pussy.

>>135159307
Your stance on health is admirable, and I'm glad some people have the nuts to not drown themselves in corn syrup like most americans, but I think you'd be better directing your efforts to actually managing your diet intelligently rather than the minimum effort "hurr I'm vegan so healthy", human nutrition is a little more complication than bad things being bad and good things being good