EU farmers ask EU to abandon EU milk quotas

>>135121767
>Why do we hate the free market when it comes to agribusiness?

Because people will bash in the politician's skulls if they go hungry.

>>135121767
This is what happens when government interferes with bussiness. First they start with a misguided attempt to "save" farmers from going broke. This results in an unecessary amount of framers. Next they try to fix their mistakes. Now 10x as many broke farmers as there would have been without government intervention.

>>135121767
Farmers are literally rural and suburban retards. The problem is that we rely on them for our food, so we can't just let them fuck everyone else over because of their stupidity.

They need to have their hands held and told what to do.

>>135124681
>The problem is that we rely on them for our food, so we can't just let them fuck everyone else over because of their stupidity.
We city folk should find a way to not need farmers, that way we can convert the rural regions into cities.

>>135121767
>Why do we hate the free market when it comes to agribusiness?
The french can't compete in a free market setting

>>135121767
You don't want to be dependent on other countries when it comes to fundamental products likes food. We live in a time of food overproduction, this could change and then we are fucked.

>>135124681
Well, you could just stop eating, you know.

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>>135121767
How much is a gallon of milk in the EU compared to burger prices?

>Legalize weed in EU
>Potheads will eat those powder milk like candy may be even snort it
Everyone is happy

Stupid commies don't know how freemarket works.

Have you considered that instead of giving the EU your milk powder, you can sell it to the Chinese for $5 per cup's worth?
>t. Banana Republic run by milk cartel

>>135125147
2.27€ where I live, so roughly similar to burgermilk

>>135125147
It's about twice as expensive, although if you're really going for the garbage stuff i assume the prices are equivalent.

>>135121767
>let free market do its thing
>buy cheap food from some shithole country
>domestic farmers go out of business
>war/drought/trade sanctions/whatever in shithole country
>no food since your domestic farmers are all gone
That's why.

>>135121767
Well this is what happens when you start to meddle with the free market with regulations. It fucks up with the supply/demand equilibrium

>>135121767
>EU
>not learning the lessons of the 91 wool crash experienced by Australia.

Stupid fucking Socialists.

>>135125147
roughly 80/90 cents per liter here

>>135125147
Gosh I pay 2/3 more for a gallon up here

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>>135125354
>Anyone in the world remembering anything that happened in Australia

>>135125147
Scaled up to a gallon, it'd cost around 2.5 usd here so almost the same

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>>135125549
And that's why we need to remind them

>>135125354
It's weird to think that only the argument of authoritarian right vs libertarian right is relevant in modern times

The entire left is filled with fucktards that honestly believe that without their laws we wouldn't have ever improved work conditions by choice

>>135121767
We must secure the existence of our cows and a future for white milk.

>drinking milk passed the age of 24 months
wew

>>135121767
How is that tractor dispensing the powder like that?

>>135125638
Its not that you can't have regulation but Socialists are just a whole different creature altogether.

>>135125681
>being a lactose intolerant subhuman
nigger

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>>135121767
No idea.
We end up with so much corn that they turn it into liquid sugar and pump everything else full of it.Which in turn kills 3 million people per year via diabetes and other health events secondary to obesity.
Also, HFCS is literally cancer fuel. It's the most bio-available energy to cancer. Overpayed farmers making too much corn triggers me

>>135125691
Hey nice rare!

>>135125663
good one, horse nigger.

>>135125327
Not really, europe subsidizes farming. No third world country can really compete with European prices. Africans are eating European chicken, because it's cheaper than native chicken. And this goes for alot more produce.

>>135125808
Socialism is a nice idea for small communities or tiny nations perhaps where the ideas wouldn't launch everyone into poverty, same with left libertarianism, might be cool for a small group on some island somewhere

>>135125979
Eating a fuckload of sugar and starch is a choice, especially with all the health culture that has been prevalent in the past decade. If you're getting diabetes from your diet it's because you're poor, uncultured and stupid.

>>135124266
fpbp

>>135125480
Really? How much does a bag of milk go for?

>>135126148
Yes, because
>europe subsidizes farming
and there's huge taxes on importing produce

>>135121767
Independence from foreign edibles is a matter of national security IMO. A trade embargo can be as lethal as a barrage of nukes, or even more.

>>135121767
because (with notable exception Romania and other small scale manufacturers spread throughout EU) most milk is "made" in a factory.

By that I mean trhe cows are fixed in position fed whatever shit is cheapest and then milk is collected. Here most large farm still regularly pasture their cows feed them grass alfalfa and other stuff and small time farmers sell their milk to processing plants(at very low prices) and increasingly on the open market directly to consumers as dairy and raw milk.(expect a crackdown on that probably oy vey goy it's dangerous).

It's why most milk tastes like chalk,it's literally white instead of having a slight hue to it bc of the micronutrients in the grass(it's where the term milky white came from only goat milk is pure white afaik)

It didn't used to be like this,esp in the former Ostblock practices where similar to that of Romania's although not as extensive.

I figured shit was going down when I say on Lidl refrigerated(not uht) milk that used to be made here sourced from Hungary and Poland ,respectively.
Now I live near the Black Sea,and this milk was the cheapest I've seen anywhere it wouldn't make sense financially . They still had Romanian milk in bottles at like 3 eurocents more
tldr:it's a quality not a quantity issue,the subsidies and gerneral corporatism pushed manufacturers for volume production and destroyed small scale manuf throughout Europe

>>135124681
>>>135121767 (OP)
>Farmers are literally rural and suburban retards. The problem is that we rely on them for our food, so we can't just let them fuck everyone else over because of their stupidity.
On the contrary, they're having this problem because there are to many of them producing too much.

>>135124681
Farms run themselves nowadays, just have to sit in your tractor a few times a year with a cup of tea and a magazine or listen to the radio while your machinery works by itself.

>>135125979
It would be a problem with public healthcare, with private it just culls the stupid and weak who can't control themselvs. I have a strong feeling the highest reate of obesity is amongst niggers and mestizos, the lowest amongst whites/asians

>>135125354
>expecting euro niggers to know anything about anything

if you ask a drooling retard something and get spittle all over you don't act suprisied!

>>135126726
And they do that cause the EU is giving them money and incentive for it

>>135124266
pretty much the '89 revolutions in Eastern Europe

>>135125147
£1 at my local shop.

>>135126202
Most people of any country are in fact; poor, uncultured, and stupid. That doesn't make it ok for the government to subsidize liquid garbage being pumped into the food supply.

>>135126951
Well in a way it's a form of eugenics, just like abortion. I would guess both of those keep down your nig population

>>135125147
>gallon
depends if you're going for the skimmed jew or full fat,about the same for the skimmed,a bit more for full fat

>>135121767
give every shitskin a sack of powdered milk and send them packing back to shitskin nation

I'm a farmer. I have to imagine it's because you pretty much have to be born into it too do it. The machinery costs are a half million dollars per machine. The land cost is huge. The work is seasonal. We can't just decide to not pay our bills anymore and grow less. The grain prices are pretty much what they were in the 70s, all of our input costs have went up about 500 percent since then. We also don't use illegals and 3 of us do 4000 acres. So it's not like we have this gigantic swarm of People. We try to be as cost effective as humanly possible.

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>I made a poor investment and I will keep bullying you until you bail me out
I hate this kind of people os much

>>135127066

What if ((())) are trying to breed out cancer by pumping everything with cancer agents and using us as ginnypigs. Won't be the first time they use the public as test rats.

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>>135121767

farmers are the most fucking entitled cunts on the fucking planet, the just hop around from crop to crop or product to product year by year depending on what they think will make them the most money, all the fucking refits and equipment is paid for with grants and subsidies and tax breaks, and then the price drops because of over-production, they blame the people giving them the free money and then start blocking roads and supermarkets with tractors and being total fucking shitcunts and inconveniencing normal people.

I can't wait for the day when everything is grown and harvested hydroponically by robots and all these farmers find out what it's like not to be paid well above market rates for their products or just be handed £500k to start farming the latest fad crop.

>>135124892
>We live in a time of food overproduction, this could change and then we are fucked.
And that is why? Because it would take years to get the know how back to plow a few fields more?

Be realistic man. It is all just retarded politics with politicians trying to keep the farmers' vote (they all vote conservative).

>>135127436
Day of the scythe when?

>>135125245
>Have you considered that instead of giving the EU your milk powder, you can sell it to the Chinese for $5 per cup's worth?
>>t. Banana Republic run by milk cartel

Google it, this is exactly what the EU thought it could do. Turns out the Chinese market isn't as big as they thought (95 percent of the Chinese are lactointolerant).

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>>135124890
this is true desu.

New members of EU had superior quality food production after some investments a decade ago, but frogs and krauts wanted to have a cookie and eat a cookie. Old EU members are ahead in terms of advanced, high tech products, and the limits in food production were introduced because Poland, Czechs and other counties that joined later were actually BTFO'ing old states agriculture. Less supply means higher prices, so lazy Pierre and Hans can still sell thier products while Paweł, Bogomil or Tomáš has to limit their production because of (((reasons)))

Well it sure would have been (((conventient))) if Russia had relied on cheap imports instead of having independent agriculture.

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>>135121767
Too many people making powdered milk.

>unregulated (real) capitalism
>some businesses are not viable
WOW IT'S EXACTLY AS EXPECTED.

>>135127559
Wow, who would have known that different races have different strenghts and weaknesess. Certainly not the EU.

>>135127279
Also we get virtually no Government assistance, different areas grow different crops because of certain weather and growth seasons. I always hear about muh government and farmers but I assume that has to do with corn which is grown in the south.

>>135121767
>powdered milk
What the fuck is this? Holy shit you Soviets are tucked up

>>135125691
They are spraying the powder with a hose on gov buildings to send a message of "we will waste food in political protest unless you will give us more gibs".

I hate milk farmers, bunch of retards.

>>135121767
Who else is going to give them strong bones

>>135127436
In the us you buy your own equipment. There's no government program.

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>>135127728
>bagged milk

>>135127746
How do you even make milk into powder? Do you put water in it? Euros actually disgust me

Little pot, stop!

>>135124266
fair point

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>>135127889
>how do you make powder
>do you add water?
fucking hell I hate you "people"

>>135125147
That's not a gallon, that's a US gallon aka a fake gallon! You're getting ripped off Yankee Doodle

>>135127279
Here in Europe farmers get paid 3/4s of their income through gov subsidies. Not even kidding. Here in Austria every small farmer drives a Mercedes. A dude wants told me the milk price is irrelevant for him, he gets his money per cos from the gov. He couldn't care less about how the cows are doing.

There are farmers who do not focus on animals but on crops and if they go "organic" they even end up being decent people who get little in terms of gov assistencd, but there are few of those idealists.

>>135127855
There is literally NO difference from drinking milk in a bag or a plastic jug, I drink it from a cardboard jug usually it tastes better than plastic I think but glass bottles are superior
>>135127957
Well how the fuck do you drink powder? I've never heard of this before

>>135121767
What would happen if a country has no more agricultural/primary sector? You import all your food and water from abroad. Do you think that's a good idea?

>>135127566
EU was a mistake.

>>135124886
Urban/rooftop farming can reduce the need for farms. It also makes the roofs of scyscrapers look nice

>>135125147
>2% reduced fat
>milk

kys faggot go whole or go home

>>135125147
depends on the supermarkets
in belgium +/-0.95eurocent/L
belgian farmers get between 0.09 and 0.12 /L
non belgian milk is +/- 10 cents cheaper.
i buy my milk directly from a farmer i know and i'm happy to pay 50 cents/L for it

>>135128058
>Well how the fuck do you drink powder? I've never heard of this before
Yes, you put water in it to hydrate it, you REMOVE the water to powder it.

You should have some powdered milk stored away for the day of the rope.

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>>135128107
How do you put a garden on this?

>>135127889
>>135127728
Don't Leafs have processed food? Milk chocolate? Muesli with chocolate? Caucau? Processed precooked meals?

All this shit is done with mill powder, no big processed food business uses real milk. They use the powder and add water back. Handling live milk is much harder to do.

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>it's another 'government tried to plan resources' episode

oh boy I love those!

>>135128205
It sounds disgusting Euro niggers actually make me sick
They eat deer eye balls and horse heads

>>135128035
Same here. Heard stories of families that the parents don't work just drink and lazy off, 5 kids each with all the shit they want. They live off subsidies of the farmland and/or the forest land they have. So basically everyone is funding their life via taxes. Fuck communism

>>135128288
Go suck a dog.

>>135128067
Most true statement in this thread

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>>135125147
>>135127889
>>135121767
> milk powder that no one wants.

Nobody wants it because it tastes like shit.
I only drink high quality milk and it is still so cheap at 1,68 euro per litre (price in Rome).

MAYBE THESE FUCKING IDIOTS START SELLING PROTEIN POWDER WITH 50% CHEAPER PRICE BECAUSE CURRENTLY 2 KILOS OF IT COSTS FUCKING 50 EUROS HERE

2 KILOS OF WHEY

50 EUROS

HERE

CHEAP?
COLLAPSING?

FUCKING CRYPTOKIKE FARMERS

>>135121767
>bring in thousands of niggers
>milk sales go down

Its almost like I would have never seen this coming.

>>135121767
Do what norway did!

>Subsidized milk production
>Problematic surplus of milk
>Make shittons of cheese
>Problematic surplus of cheese
>Let's turn our cheese into a worldwide trademark
>Can't compete with any cheesemaker in the entire world
>More subsidies = competitive price
>Still fails
SOCIALISM WORKS YOU GUISE

>>135121767
Because the EU doesn't export shit.

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>>135128217

you attach the garden to a plane, then you wait

>>135128496
Protein powder and this are two different things.
Your roid powder is made by the farma jews

>>135128496
Can you not use communist units?
Tell it in gallons and Dollar or pound Sterling

>>135128217
That's an old building tho. The buildings on the right and left of that one have flat roofs which makes them suitable for rooftop farms. Of course it's impossible to do it on all roofs, you need a flat roof.

>>135128613
Whey is a by-product of milk production.

>>135121767
We and the canucks also do this for some things.
Everyone's protectionist with agriculture somewhat

>>135128583
Socialism is retarded, Europe is degenerating backwards they're becoming atheist and DEINDUSTRIALISING!
It used to be European factories that made the worlds goods, now the colonies are taking over, it's disgusting

>>135125147
>>135128110
indeed, buy full milk, you don't want to know what they do to it to make it lesser fatty and normal untinkered milk is fuller and better taste anyway
>>135128154
>in belgium +/-0.95eurocent/L
ranges from 0.89 up to 1.36
that's for half full milk 50% fat?
normal milk is somewhat 10 cents more expencive... i wonder why.. i asked around at farmers i know and they couldn't tell me either
maybe demand?
maybe because chemicaly altered watered down milk is cheaper? who knows what they don't tell us what they do with it before botteling it

>>135128646
Modern buildings should all be torn down, they're a disgusting blight on the city and have ruined the image of every single municipality that exists and this is a fact. If I were prime minister I would ban the construction of any modern architecture and tear them down.

>>135125370

srsl what does that tell me if youre behind a fake flag

srsly /pol/ IQ IS below 25

>>135128768
Should've subsidized those factories then

>>135128856
While I agree that most modern architecture is shit why spend money on tearing it down and then building a new building whsn you could use it for shit like the farms I mentioned

>>135128998
Because it's worth it in the long run, building a farm on a roof is a modern liberal trend just build it on the ground like a normal person and make space be deporting all NON Anglos from Canada and tearing down all modern architecture.
My city would be down to make 50,000 people and would be nice quiet and rural like it was in the 60's but NOOOOO they had to accept disgusting Russians and Italians into the country and they had to build all these ugly modern houses in the 60's and apartments and malls for them

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>>135128661

Because agriculture isn't something that you can just halt production of and then immediately kickstart when the """market demands it""" (people are starving). Food is the one thing that absolutely must be stabilized to keep society going.

I can't believe people are trying to shove agriculture into the free market. What the unholy fuck.

>>135128981
Abolish all taxes, remove environmental regulations. Done
Now people can burn their garbage too and we won't be polluting the country with the landfills overflowing

>>135128619
> gallons, dollar, pound sterling = communist
>???

>>135126771
it is
this is literally what the data shows

don't get me wrong though, we white burgers have weight problems too

>>135129255
Do you have any reading comprehension you retard

>>135121767
>Is da free market gud or is it bad?

It's more complicated than that you fucking mong.

>>135127559
>(95 percent of the Chinese are lactointolerant).
yet it NZs largest export market for milk

>>135129212
Subsidize the taxes too, so they become less of a burden on the volk

>>135121767
The only acceptable thing for Government to do would be, if it was a sudden turn of Events, to help smaller Business to Change the buisness model with a loan

>>135129209
>central planning is more stable than the free market
That's not how it works.

>>135129209
You stabilize it via contracts but i guess a communist woulnd't know how that works

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>>135129466

Central planning for essential goods is absolutely necessary. We're not talking about Ding Dongs and Hot Pockets, we're talking about bread and milk.

>>135129435
I said abolish all taxes...
Are you Euro niggers retarded or just shitposting? You only read like half of what's posted and then shitpost about communism and atheism

>>135124640
If it were only to "Guaranteed production of food for the whole population in the case of emergency" as they claim, it would be understandable. You don't want to risk starvation in the theoretic case of ww3 or somesuch. But yeah, it pretty much turns into what you described.

>>135129372
The free market is good, subsidies and quotas etc. are shit.

I say let us stock a years' supply of dried beans, corn etc. (this stuff lasts 200yrs) and then stop subsidizing farmers and stop tariffs, let the free market sort things out. I personally don't need factory farms in Europe.

>>135129312
If you don't have enough IQ and self-control to not overeat and exercise then you should be culled either way by nature

>>135129668
communism and atheism are the only pillars for a truly moral society comrade

why not mass produce cheese? we have started to export our cheese to china and japan

>>135128661
No ones dairy is more cucked then Canucks.

>>135121767
>powdered milk
I feel sorry for you if you trust that milk. Who knows what's inside there.

>>135129331
that's how it's red
do you have any skills to express yourselve comprehensivly?
ofcourse you need to be insultive for nothing which tells us more about you...
... what isn't surprising at all looking at your flag.
i wonder if you wonder why earthlings in general just hate you do you feel you are above that in the illusion you are someone?

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>>135121767
Why do we WANT the milk prices to remain high? Don't we want food prices to be as low as they possibly can be? If this drives some farmers out of business, then so be it. This is just like outlawing Uber because taxis can't compete.

>>135125638
>The entire left is filled with fucktards that honestly believe that without their laws we wouldn't have ever improved work conditions by choice

We did improve work conditions by choice. We CHOSE to pass laws to improve them. Do you really think businesses would do anything that wouldn't make them more money if they could? Do you really think there wouldn't always be a subhuman populace willing to take any conditions and shitty pay? There were literal riots in America, private security forces were sent to break up Unions, armed revolutions in mining towns.

>>135124640
This. You waste money on them making milk, you buy it. Of course the problem is much more complex than this when you're trying to keep a standard of living for people, and it includes availability of milk.
Idk how this problem should have been solved, I'm just pointing out this was obviously a wrong approach.

>>135129397
>yet it(China) is NZs largest export market for milk
True enough, but the amount of milk produced by NZ, is only a fraction of what the whole EU produces - on a demand that isn't there, for a market that they haven't established themselves in like NZ. State-directed economy at its worst.

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>>135129869
>If this drives some farmers out of business, then so be it. This is just like outlawing Uber because taxis can't compete.
Ever heard of voters? Farmers vote. Taxi drivers vote. Politicians don't act in the best interest of the whole population, but in the best interest or certain small groups.

>>135124266
This, people will never revolt until it comes down to food. If the politicians keep people fed, they will never see themselves overthrown.

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>>135130025
>Win a hundred votes by raising milk prices to satisfy farmers
vs
>Win ten thousand votes by lowering milk prices and appeal to the populace

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>>135128339
>Be a polish businessman
>have to pay almost 32% of his income for the for the mandatory accident-rental-retirement-healthcare tax
>buy a shit-tier farm land for pennies
>drop some rotten potatoes and dont even bother to harvest them, build yourself a villa next to it.
>lookatmeimafarmernow.jpg.
>you now pay like 100 bux a year for mandatory accident-rental-retirement-healthcare tax


really activates my almonds.

>>135129869
Because farmers won't have money for grass to feed the cows, so they will sell some for meat and will produce less milk next year. And these fuckers have no Idea by how much should they let the prices lower so that the production lowers accordingly and just waste Germany's money by the principle 'better safe than sorry'

>>135129866
I said can you not use communist units, And then said can you SAY IT in gallons and dollars or pound sterling?
What time do you Euro niggers go to sleep? You ruin this Board

>>135125663
Those are not the 14 words we need right now but the ones we want.

>>135124266
This

It's impossible to find bakers here, because they get paid dogshit, but if bread stopped being 50 cents and rolls being 5 cents, everyone would riot

They are perfectly fine buying 5 liters of coke a day, 100 bucks on gasoline a month, an arm and leg for a pack of smokes or dropping a grand on the new iphone day 1, but OY VEY milk and bread costs a bit more, we must riot and burn cars!

>>135130431
>What time do you Euro niggers go to sleep?
It's 2-3 pm here faggot

>>135121767
>Why do we hate the free market when it comes to agribusiness? Why do we support farmers with 50 billion in agribusiness subsidies and open market milk purchases to keep prices high?


The actual reason is because it's considered unacceptable to be wholly reliant on foreign imports for foodstuffs, and the infrastructure must continue to be maintained in case of war.

The same policies are often applied towards steel industry.

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>>135124681
How would you know? Last time I checked north dakota has a better growing season than your frozen wasteland.

>>135124640
Here in the states they mostly subsidize the large conglomerate farms and bought out the smaller ones, so they could better control the industry. Now that we got all these illegal aliens coming in it drives down the prices and labor cost making it even harder for small farms to operate.

>>135130606
Well I'm off /pol/ for the next 7 hours

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>>135124266
This. If they leave it to the free market you can have a war, natural disasters or other man made disasters that can fuck up the supply and distribution of food to the world markets.

Now if you're a net importer of food and your agricultural industry is almost non-existent, because it was undercut by the competition, you'll have shortages of food. The free market will eventually fix it, because it will be profitable to grow food again, its just that some of you may have to die before we get it back going.

>>135124266
All the responses to this are retarded. Did you people somehow miss that the politicians are keeping prices high and the free market would lower them?

Relevant
http://dailysignal.com/2016/09/22/what-happened-when-new-zealand-got-rid-of-government-subsidies-for-farmers/
>“You had a system dictated by government programs that was thrown out the window overnight,” Hausman adds in a recent interview with The Daily Signal. “But the farmers kind of reinvented themselves and now New Zealand is a powerhouse when it comes to agricultural production on the world stage.”

>>135124681
>Needs their hands held and told what to do.
I haven't seen anybody but my family for the past 2 or 3 weeks. I don't think a government agent or an arrogant yuppie is telling me what to do. Faggot.

>>135125663
>We must secure the existence of our cows and a future for whole milk.

fixed it for you, there is no need to call it white, we know it is and it's ours
because skimmed milk is bastard milk

>>135125327
America drives the prices for most ag commodities because of our economy of scale and huge production, Africa is full of retards that don't use Nitrogen and the Chinese are commies. Also if you would just buy from your local farmers market you wouldn't worry about that.

>>135127444
No, most regions have a set growing time where it's warm enough to grow food. If you plant too late you won't have anything to harvest and poor people will starve.

>>135127725
What hell are you talking about? All of the midwest is filled with soybean and corn fields. Also, what do you grow? Most grains have subsides aswell as cotton and other industrially important crops.

When farmers "go out of business" they can't just pop-up and be back in business in a few weeks when the economy improves. When a farmer goes down and his farm is paved over for a mall or new neighborhood then it's gone forever.

>>135128831
>> make it lesser fatty and normal untinkered milk is fuller and better taste anyway

brb, got to vomit

Jungenfrauline detected

>le EU
>Estonia you make too much milk you need to throw it out
>B-but Russia will buy it all
>NO!! YOU THROW IT OUT NOW
>o-ok

such is life in EUstan

>>135121767
>>135124266
Plus farming is insanely expensive, most farmers have ass loads of debt.

>>135133294
Not farming anon, machinery

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>>135133026
Quotas have been abandoned in 2015, Esti. This is why they are now spraying the EU buildings with tons of milk powder... as a result of the end of the quotas, the milk prices have fallen. You are allowed and encouraged to export the milk, but even Russia and China don't want enough.

I doubt there are sanctions on milk exports to Russia. Maybe Russia put sanctions on Esti disallowing milk exports to Russia?

>>135130181
>>Win a hundred votes by raising milk prices to satisfy farmers
>vs
>>Win ten thousand votes by lowering milk prices and appeal to the populace
Keep 200,000 votes from farmers and their families vs. "the general lowlife population which votes socialist anyway".

Now guess why conservatives keep agribusiness subsidies.

>>135125480
Canadian milk market is protected from outside competition, that's why milk prices are high in Canada.

>>135133595
That happened before 2015 I think. They literally had to dump loads of milk into the sewers.

The sanctions help Russia more than anyone else, instead of buying they now produce, which is a good thing for them and bad for Baltics.

Fuck the EU

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>>135125147
>not getting your milk in a bag

>>135134478
Esti can decide if they want to sanction the evil Russkies. Esti voted in favor of Russki sanctions, now face milk disaster. Esti done this to itself.

>>135121767
I dont get it
Everything here is so fucking expensive
A fucking bread woth ham i it costs over 2 euros but you get like 2 litres of milk for under a euro
I never understand why everything is so expensive but the milk prices are so low that no farmer can make money with it

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>>135121767
EUs fault, stop subsidizing the farmers.
There are too many farmers!!!!
Let the free markets solve this problem.

>>135136993
Government subsidies. The government always fucks with a free market then blames the results of their mistake on the free market.

Still, cheap milk isn't a bad thing for the consumer as long as the supply is sustainable.

>>135121767
are we gonna see europpor farmers riot like last time and nearly cause a famine again?
god that would be so great to see the fucking krauts get fucked by a famine

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>>135121767
Just tell the Swedes that the milk has 2% African Immigrant sperm in it, and every Swede will suddenly want to drink 3 liters a day!

>>135133595
Yep, we sanctioned all the food imports from EU, bar a few things like olive oil, vine and stuff.

>>135130246
Just buy a few ducks and make a small barn for them. BAM you're in agriculturist industry and shiet. Enjoy your tax breaks.

>>135131202
Yeah, first year you will buy food almost for free and next one, once half of farmers bankrupted thanks to low prices and oversupply, you will starve. Brilliant idea.

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>>135128217
Underground farming is the future

>>135124266
Don't buy overpriced food made in unsuitable climates. Retards.

>>135125147
€1.50 where I live.

>>135121767
>tone of powdered milk wasted
>tomatina: tons of tomatoes just wasted
>USA: 150 billion$ of food wasted every year
>Guatemalans starving and eating their pets to stay alive

>>135125147
About twice that

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>>135127746

>>I hate milk farmers, bunch of retards.

Dairy farms are responsible for most of the bullshit regulations in the US. They go for the maximum number of cows without regard for whether or not they can deal with the manure then proceed to just dump the shit wherever they want sometimes into Creeks and streams then when they get regulated they cry and moan and expect the rest of agriculture to come stick up for them.
They have a lot of political pull that gets them special treatment in the farm bill.

The dairyman cries out in pain as he strikes you.

>>135139801
But that didn't happen you fucking idiot

>>135121767
>EU
>FREE MARKET

hold me /pol/, just hold me...

>>135137763
>olive oil, vine and stuff
The italians in again.

>>135124681
>with bussines

This I can not wait for 3D farms to crush them.

>>135124890
Pol/ack has it right. French are against free trade in agro.

>>135124892
You could set up less retarded system for that. Like Auction off fixed amount of subsideis to produce needed amount of food.

>>135125327
You can have less retareded system for this sort of think. Like auction of fixed amount of subsides for needed food.

>>135121767
As a Frenchman once said, "Laissez faire!"

>>135128998
your stupid rooftop gardens will not make remotely enough food to feed enough people, shut the fuck up

>>135127559
5% of china is like half of mankind

>>135121767
only 50bn? Draghi pumpes this much out of thin air in a couple of months to keep phe ponzi going and it goes to bankers and stockmarket and to prop USA and Japs. They do it in turns, currency war is a misnomer it's an effort in concert not a conflict. As long as everybody does it there is a perception of no problem at all.

The answer is internal stability and feeding those who can't into farming (you know what I mean) for whatever reason. It's bad all around but they can't allow fluctuation in price which would result because of unstable financial system. So gros profit for farmers is subsidised and rock stable, the market price does not matter in proportion to subsidy. And since the price matters not so much the structure and extent of production is more stable as opposed to the alternative. If only we didn't have fradulent fractional reserve banking, if only people could understand what it actually means...

>>135142157
>then proceed to just dump the shit wherever they want
top kek, we kinda have similiar things here. They tend to spread the manure on any land that they own, despite not even harvesting hay from it. We have this little patch of land nearby, which is just grass, in the middle of the city. Even gets used as a non-official dogpark and such. Every now and then, the farmer comes along, and dumps a load of liquid shit onto it, saturating the surrounding mile or so in the stench of cowshit. I'm kinda surprised no-one pulled him into the courtroom over it yet.

>>135140467
>.t uneducated hippie

>>135142529
Supposedly EU bough a lot of it. But he's an economic ignorant - I give you that. Same thing when they freed sugar from quotas. But I have no ide whether the gov. buys and how much.