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GERMANY: EU COULD IMPOSE COUNTER SANCTIONS ON US

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https://www.rt.com/business/397655-us-russia-sanctions-harm-german-companies/

WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TRUMP?
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This is real news being slide.
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>>135115227
trade war meh
wheres my ww3 /pol/?
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>>135115227
1. This is being passed by the Senate and Congress with enough support that Trump can't veto it.
2. The sanctions will apply to companies doing business with Russia, it's not a trade war. It potentially affects Merkel's precious Nordstream 2, so Germans *cough* I mean the EU will place reciprocal sanctions. It's not a trade war but desu I wish it was.
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No one cares, Germany
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>>135115227
We just want Russia's resources, stop trying to fuck us over all the time just because you got stuck in the cold war mindset.
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>>135115227
LMAO, AMERICA ETERNALLY BTFO
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>>135115227
Come on niggers let's just fight it out already!

Fuck this pussy shit, the Anglsphere needs to be #1 again.
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>>135116430
of course you don't care about real important news like economics you low iq kekistani faggot
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>>135115227
>COUNTER SANCTIONS
if that means no crappy eu-muslim-made products, then that's a good thing
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>>135116911
>Anglosphere
>ever returning to #1
Yurop has turned to shit ever since you all started letting hordes of immigrants and refugees fuck your women and live off your tax dollars.
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>>135115227

On an absolute basis, the US economy is stronger than the EU economy. So yeah fuck, we're going to lose this.

US is fucking smart, first cause chaos in the Middle East, all refugees wreck Europe. Now put tariffs in place. It's a plan to save us from Germany once again.

God bless America.
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>>135115227
GIVE US OUR MONEY NOW EVIL MURICANS

WE LIKE MONEY! GIVE IT TO US
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>>135117665
>God bless America.

Pls don't bless this evil nation.
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>>135115227
Finally Germans have got some balls

Russo-German alliance when?
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>>135115227
I fucking hate these fucking germs so fucking much all these krautfucks should be exterminated
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>Angering Trump.
>The most powerful and vindictive man in the world.
>What could go wrong?

The audacity of Germans. They deserve sanctions, and ideally, annexed by Poland, Austria and The Netherlands.
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>>135117802
Not under Merkel
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>>135115227
>We finally made the Germans mad.
I am quaking in my boots
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>>135116911
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>>135117767

I rather be on Americas side then on any fucking other shit side. Even if it means dropping some bombs on some shitskins.

Fuck off and go with the cards you dealt.
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>>135117802
>Russo-German alliance when?

The alliance that always should have been.
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>>135115227
US foreign policy has reached unintelligible lows. For real, this is so fascinatingly retarded that I'm super curious as to what they'll come up with next.
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>>135117964
>I rather be on Americas side then on any fucking other shit side.

FUCK OFF KIKE

America = jew nation
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>>135117860


agreed
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>>135117981
Trump will soon enact a no fly zone over EU. This is how stupid we've become.
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>>135117868

And France desu
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>>135115227
fuck off Poo-tin shill
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>>135115227
Putinshill detected
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>>135115227
Yea because Congress had nothing to do with this.
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>>135117802
since 1963, Germany was always more tied to Russia.
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wait, are germans implying USA gives two shits about some sanctions?

LMAO.

USA owns your ass, all you can do is go and cry to mama merkel.
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>>135118367
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GIB US MORE MONEYSSSSSSSSSSSS
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>>135118367
poles are the jews of europe
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>>135118484
True
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>>135118367
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/02/14/germany-has-got-its-gold-back--they-must-know-something-we-dont.html

:^)
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It's the deep state, not TRUMP. I'm pleased other countries oppose the Russian sanctions such as U.K. Fuck globalism, fuck this Hillary witch-hunt.
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>>135118589
>, not TRUMP. I

>he supports them and will sign it
>clearly not him
>not knowing what deep state means

Amerikikes are the niggers of white people.
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Ask an actual German cuckold anything. inb4 your wife's son.
Yes, my wife does have biracial children from a previous marriage
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>>135118484

ze germans are the biggest jews of europe.

i just read a week ago germany earned 2,5 billion by bailing out greece.

god damn, they are managing to out-jew the jews themselves.
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>>135118484
Now you burger start to understand European politics.
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>>135117974
Worked so well last time!
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>>135115227
tradewar and poland is strongest us ally
when shit hits the fan this will not go out good for poland i think.
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>>135118743
Poland = anti-Russian neocons

Anyone who supports Poland is a neocon

Simple as that.
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>>135115227
why are burgers being so autistic kek
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>>135118743
>>135118799
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>>135115227
>be (((USA)))
>invent some bullshit story about hackerman
>have no proof
>use it to block Russian export of resources into Europe
>force Eurocucks to pay up to twice as much for the gas
Fucking 18-D mahjong.
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>>135115227
I hope Germany gets destroyed again and we become a russian province forever.
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>>135118849
You are support Amerikike empire over the Germo-Russian freedom alliance.

Time for the fourth partition
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>>135115227
Fuck it. Nuke Germany and Brussels.
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>>135118882

its all cool, rus bro, at least it will push the eurocucks to mine their own gas, not being reliable on foreigners.
i think it will be beneficial, in the long run.
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>>135118799
>>135119053
Literally this. Poles are eternally butthurt.
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>>135115227

No one cares. The world could literally blow the fuck up and rot and the U.S will not care.
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>>135118484

I'd say jews are the jew of europe
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>>135119053

but we hate both germans and russians.....
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>>135119072
>>135119114
>Muh Russian domination

Get over yourself. Jesus fucking Christ.
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>>135117981
G'day m8. Yep. Sitting here at the arse end of the planet, watching the shitshow. These shitposters have no freakinf idea that Russia and China have entered into a once-in-millennium global trade restructuring pact.
The Belt and Road initiative. Vladivostok and Beijing to Madrid. Connecting 4.4 bill in people and laver half the global trade - all to be conducted in gold-backed currencies - NOT USD.
And the US has just pissed off the largest economy in Europe... With the Russia China pact waiting to get cosy.
Not smart guys..... But enjoy the last half decade of Hegemon....
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>>135115227
>cry around russia 24/7
>Trump finally decides to make sanctions against russia
>REEEEE HOW DARE YOU SANCTION RUSSIA
i hate my country sometimes. wouldnt even mind if krautistan gets nuked
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Months ago...
>Russians are evil and too strong, USA must support NATO or else REEEEEEEEEEE Trump is controlled by Putin!
Now
>Friendship with America ended, friendly Russian bear is now greatest ally, take that drumpf!
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>>135119172
To be fair its not Trump, it is the Senate + House.
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>>135115227
oh noooo, that sucks. whatever will we do with sanctions on us
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>>135119159
It hasn't gone unnoticed. I've been making plans
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>>135119053
Germo-Russian muslim alliance*

Do something about your education finally... seriously

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>>135119286
You can stop funding fake made-up countries like (((Ukraine))) for a start.
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>>135119158

what the fuck is wrong with you?

im having a normal conversation and you're sperging out like a fucking retard.
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>>135115227
>Brexit
>Leave just in time for the EU, Russia, China and America to go into a massive trade conflict
I swear we luck out every time.
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>>135119395
You're speaking Polish butthurt speak. Always be against Russia because you'll never get over that them and the Germans partitioned you.
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>>135119456

what? just fuck off, you dont even make sense.

>hide posts
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>>135117704
GER-MAN FAGS

THEY'RE KIKE SHILLS IN DISGUISE
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>>135119386
girls in that country are cute, I'd fund them to come here
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>>135117767
>>135117974
>>135118014
>>135118047
>>135118426
>>135118484
>>135118627
>>135118799

this is antifa tier faggotry of the highest order. what that fuck are you even writing.
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>>135119376
shit, this one...
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>>135117964
The american industry needs a lot of shit made in the EU to properly function.
For example. The machines used to make integrated circuits, like CPU's for example, are made in your country, the Netherlands.

It's a symbiose, the fatties can't live without us, and we can't live without them.
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>>135119658
Ukrainians are literally just Russians and some Poles. Should be partitioned between them even if Poland is butthurt as fuck any time Russia comes up in a conversation.
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>>135119096
Sometimes I wonder: What would it be like to be born in another shitty, refugee infested country...
But then the thought is eradicated by the delicious burger in front of me. Lifes good.
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>>135119376
>>135119691
>>135119701
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>>135119226
>Top Image
>Actual battle between two great empires
>Bottom Image
>Angry toilet cleaners screaming at immigrants for a problem created by Western govts
'''Protest''' and people who attend them are in it for the moral high and nothing else. Comparing them to the warriors of the past is an unbelievably great insult to their memory.
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>>135115227
>trump
It was congress that passed it with a super majority.
Not even Trump vetoing it could stop it.
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>>135119737
>11 shitposts so far and counting
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>>135119816
this
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USkikes want to sell their shitty LNG to europe that s why they are puting all these sanctions .
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>>135119816
Yes but these sanctiond DON T AFFECT THE US , they affect only europe , basicly if europe tells fuck off to your sanctions , these sanctions are instantly useless
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>>135119772

its an insult to anybody, honestly

>your own country gets fucked by niggers
>wait for polaks to come and help

very sad cuckoldry, western nations forgot what its like to have balls, i guess they lost them somewhere, 80 years ago.
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>>135119816
Trump can absolutely stop it. The president has the last say on foreign policy matters. The reason he wont is that he is (possibly deliberately) between a rock and a hard place. With all the Russian bullshit he's been dealing with, vetoing this would make him look like an idiot, yet allowing it will be a politically terrible decision for all the negative consequences it will have, with little to no positives.
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>>135119592
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>>135119721
You country was formed from refugees retard.
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>>135119945
That's good. Because they attached it to a bill with sanctions for both Iran and North Korea.
It's a neocon dick move.

>>135120064
It passed with a 98-2 supermajorty. If Trump vetoed it, it would purely be symbolic. They would override his veto with a 2/3 vote.
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>>135117665
You are welcome. YEE HAWWW
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United States in its great Russophobia is unironically pushing European Union more towards Russia.

Ha ha ha. Ah ah ah.
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>>135116430
Nice undestanding of the world economy there.
The economy is the single most important thing for nations/civilization as a whole you uneducated fat fuck.
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>>135115227
>EU shits over Russia for Obama years
>In Germany there was a campaign that motivates people to buy more apples to enable further Russia sanctions
>Russia keeps emphasizing that the EU and especially Germany profits from strong Russia ties
>No.jpg
>Trump: America first
>Trump sanctions Russia
>Immediate 180 because of muh resources

Even though it means shooting themselves in the foot, I wish Russia would begin fucking over the EU together with America and Britain.
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>>135119970
>Your own toilet gets clogged by a big turd
>Wait for polaks to come and help
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>>135115227
This is so retarded, congress bipartisan sanctions Russia, Trump is the only one who is mildly against it
>REEEE WTF TRUMP AMERICA FIRST? WTF?
Are Eu fags this fucking retarded, all this sanction shit began for their pet revolution in Ukraine, how come these people are allowed to hold zero responsibility and such power at the same time?
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>>135118656
Poles = irrelevant niggers of europe with the biggest victim complex in the world
Germans = most autistic race on the planet but a lot of good traits

And btw, there is one jew nation in europe and thats the swiss.
>Bergjuden
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>>135120216
Americans know the Russia thing is bullshit, it's just politics and Eurofags are worried our internal fight will impact their shekels
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>>135119110
anglos, brits and americunts in particular, are the jews of the white race
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>>135119970
>poland
>balls

You are basically gypsys with white skin, all you do is steal from each other, stab each other and rage at outside things because everyone was mean to poland at some point.
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>>135120320
>thingsthatdidnthappen.jpg
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>>135119336
Ok- goodonya... But read the jingoistic posts here... "Fuck off Germany, fuck off EU, were the US, we don't need you".... Terrifyingly ignorant...
Just no clue how vulnerable the USD is - and how keen other economies are to trade in gold backed yuan and even rubbles ....
The shitposters here might get to look back in 3-5 years and go, "oh fuck"... That was stupid, beyond all known levels of stupid ....
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>>135120391
Know? The bill is heavy against Russia because the people who voted for it feel the need to punish Russia for colluding in 2016 election (they sincerely believe it). The bill has been voted with supermajority, it wil lpass.

This entire thing, this bill and sanctions, stops being just "bullshit" when it starts to affect even EU. As EC fears. and This will push Europe towards Russia.

This is a gargantuan mistake in foreign policy.
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>>135120373

>niggers of europe with the biggest victim complex in the world

you described germany pretty nicely :D
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>>135120320
>be rufag
>get sanctioned by burgers
>euros sanction burgers
>you sanction euros
>every major power except for china is under sanctions
>overdose on krokodil
>white race kills itself
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>>135120362
Was Ukraine EU pet project or US pet project though?
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>>135116552
For Germany it is in the best interest to have closer ties with Russia. And historically it was a thing. Russian and German monarchy intermarried, there were up to 2 million Germans living in Russian empire. But it all went so wrong with WW1 and after.
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>>135120544
It feels to me like for Americans, domestic politics are currenty more important and they don't really care which sort of long term effects this will cause in foreign politics
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>>135120475

>biggest stealing spree in history= germany
>biggest murder spree in history= germany
>rage at outside things= germany
>because everyone was mean to germany at some point.
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>>135120289

>2017
>still wanting overpriced German garbage imports after VW, Daimler etc.

yeah, no.
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>>135120391
more like you're afraid of your precious petrol dollar again
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>>135120613
Of course EU, they wanted closer ties with Ukraine, its what caused the whole thing. Unless you have memory of a gold fish.
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>>135117665
>thanking the biggest jew enablers
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>>135120289
You expect a basement dwelling NEET to understand economics?
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>>135120704
If it's such a garbage, why are we buying it?
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>>135120544
I don't have time to feed you links, but not they don't really believe it.
It's all political games by the left. The bill is meant to provoke and trap Trump who they hate into defending Russia, which the media will then use as ammo to feed their narrative.
Also, it will weaken the presidents power to act in negotiations with Russia.
The deep state is fucking with Trump, they give no fucks about Russia or Europe.

>>135120727
go suck more brown cock hans
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>>135120785
fuck off kike, you and the deep state fags also support the sanctions that are causing this domino
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>>135120759
but why would we antagonize Russia over closer ties with Ukraine? That's really stupid
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>>135118367
It owns your ass, too. But you enjoy it very much. Poles always liked it in the ass.
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>>135120855
ye I bet having better relationship with russia will fuck Europe up so much, damn...
http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-sergey-lavrov-improve-diplomats-better-relations-benefits-608762
What a retard...
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>>135120785
Simple economics, yeah.

Not all NEETS are retards, just too lazy to actually work.
>>135120704
Then tell your countrymen to stop buying mostly german shit (like the rest of the world).
Deal with it, german stuff, no matter what scandal or bad production line, is the world most favourable import.

You wont win a tradewar with germany when they sperg out. They will go extra lengths.
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>>135120960
Fixed the unarchived clickbaiters
https://archive.is/u5Vyb
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>>135120986
thanks man
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>>135116911
We did a pretty sterling job last time around, saving Europe from monstrous Germany. Fucking brainwashed cuck
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>>135120853
IT DOES NOT MATTER IF THE POLITICIANS BELIEVE IT SINCERELY OR NOT (THE PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR IT). THE BILL HAS BEEN PASSED WITH SUPERMAJORITY AND WILL HAVE POTENTIALLY UNWANTED CONSEQUENCES.

OBVIOUSLY THE REAL REASON IS THE ENERGY INDUSTRY AND GET EU TO BUY MORE FROM US AT HIGHER EXPENSE BUT THAT MIGHT NOT ACTUALLY HAPPEN AS OF LATEST NEWS.

OBVIOUSLY, THERE IS FAITH ENOUGH TO RUSSIA MEDDLING IN ELECTIONS THAT IT HAS BEEN APPLIED AS A NARRATIVE FOR THIS BILL.

I hope I was clear this time.
Faith does not matter.
Action does.

>fucking with Trump.
Trump is ready to sign the bill. He doesn't exactly opposite, nor does he bother to create a symbolic veto.
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>>135120362
>all this sanction shit began for their pet revolution in Ukraine,...
Err, wrong. 1100% wrong. The EuroMaiden was an Obama admin project.
Long term goal - take control of the Russian warm sea port at Sevastopol; and get Ukraine I to NATO - with newks at Russians front door step.
Didn't happen. Crimea is Russian. The Russians have fought wars for Crimea since the 1700s..... They are not relinquishing a prize naval base, nor will they allow NATO into Ukraine.
And yes, that might mean WW3. Putin has been unequivocal about the "red lines"
Threes plenty of you tubes with him explaining -
Even going so far as to ask "does no one understand the danger here? What do I have to get through to you?."
And: "what the streets of St Petersberg taught me as a boy.... If a fight is inevitable, strike first,.."
He's warned about US placing ballistic missiles in Poland and Romania - ignored.
He's said: no weapons in Ukraine.
NATO is arming Ukraine....
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>>135117647
No shit you snag eating fuck.

That's why the European Union needs to burn.
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>>135120487
What exactly 'didn't happen'?
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>>135119376
>nation that invited millions of kikes into their country posting this pic
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>>135120891
>but why would we antagonize Russia over closer ties with Ukraine? That's really stupid
>EU smart
Nah
>anyone in charge of any western european country
>smart or cares for betterment of its own people
I don't think so
Its the same reason why they would niggers
You read the article, why are they blaming Trump for this, they fucking know that this is not what he wanted, they fucking know that sanctions were started during Obama presidency. All this is is to show that Europe does not like Trump and how tough it is or some shit. Its fucking pathetic.
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>>135117935
Don't hide behind a Templar Flag and talk shit about Britain. Don't you know Jesus was English?
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>>135121135
the sanctions come from the deep state senate and congress and not from a Trump-led push unlike the obama sanctions you rural/suburban retard, this is not part of Trump's policies and objectives
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>>135121100
>flag
>shitpost
ignored
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>>135121100
>Even going so far as to ask "does no one understand the danger here? What do I have to get through to you?."
That's a great speech and only thing Vlad needs to do, to prove his statements, is to point at the actions of NATO.
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Do people really believe that Russia intervened in elections?
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Well when it comes to Oil and Gas the EU was always tolerant WITH Russia. The former EU sanctions always left out Energy.

It's America First who uses the political witchhunt as a false flag (and to Show Trump the middle finger) to push their own Fracking industry.
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>>135121251
Do you believe they did not? That besides the point anyways. Fucking Obama influenced France by endorsing Macron.
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>>135121251

people really believe russia is some kind of boogeyman, and there will be ww3 over..... something.

nobody knows what, but it will happen, lmao.

/pol is really going downhill lately.
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>>135115227
>trump sanctions russia
>germany sanctions us in retaliation
>liberals heads explode trying to figure out who to be mad at now
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>>135121182
How about "Fuck the EU" phrase of Victoria Nuland over Ukraine?
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>>135121322
the liberals are making the sanctions, not trump. THey have themselves to blame for falling for this genious Putin trap
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>>135121251
Fuck no.

It's a narrative created as smear campaign to discredit Trump and create a controlled media circus as well as a coping mechanism for the Libs because they can't seem to grasp, even after almost 9 months, that Hilldog got BTFO.
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>>135121037
Yeah we fought the wrong side obviously. However now the Continental establishment are just Commies and Marxists but with a blue face lift.

1488
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>>135121367
So fucking what?
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>>135121235
True, it was the house, yet Trump couldn't afford to criticize it openly so he has his share.

Also, watch your language.
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>>135121317

Trump would get kicked out of the WH the moment Hillary and her jew hackers found any proof to that.
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>>135121251
no not really. the liberals pretend to each other that they believe because they think they will find some small technicality that they can use against Trump.

only the incredibly stupid really believe it. so i'd guess 10-20% of Americans.
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>>135121511
Russia like any superpower wants to influence other superpowers. they all meddle. I'm not talking about being in cahoots with Trump directly, but influencing anyways.
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>>135117964
>I'd rather see my continent burn than criticize the expansionist terror regime that's kept the world on edge for the past half decade
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Good thing we're working with England and not Eurocucks.
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>>135121251
Why do you find it so hard to believe?
Russia certanly has a very competent secret service that would be able to pull that off
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>>135115227
Germany produces nothing worthwhile, even the famous german engineering they had going has been shit for over a decade. Fuck germany and germans. Enjoy all that middle eastern dick.
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>>135121596
one of the big geopolitical happenings in 2017 and (((pol))) is defending the deep state decision to push sanctions.
This board is now controlled opposition
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>>135121440
It shows that EU wasn't really in charge
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I wish the Russian shills would leave already. They've been working furiously trying to cover their tracks and convince everyone here they didn't interfere in the election but they're only fooling retards who never leave their basement. They have to realize that at some point their efforts are useless. They got Trump elected, but now he can't do shit to help them other than destroy the state department (which he's doing a great job at). Cut your losses and go home already shills.
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>>135121563

"Wants" != "can"
"influence" != "fixed"

And there's one little thing called "proof". They have none. If they've had any they would show it to everybody. Because that way Russia would be demonized to the point of no return, and Trump would be destroyed to the dust.
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>>135120675
you make the mistake they are capable of thinking of long term consequences
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>>135121659


And the Russians managed to give Killary the popular vote and Trump the EV? Muahaha this is the worst Script ever.

I doubt any eligible American voter was manipulated by Russia. Common sense.
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>>135120149
>Congress can crash diplomatic relations with no survivors
>And there's nothing the president can do about it
No, seriously?
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>>135121659
i find it hard to believe because the DNC admitted it was bullshit they were making up as a scare tactic in the emails that wikileaks released.

also no actual evidence, etc.

>>135121749
this has gotta be bait
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>135121749
Yadda, yadda, yadda, you've lost Shareblue. Suck it up or don't, cupcake.
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>>135121659

Hans immediately on the vodka dick.
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>>135121624
no man check my joke :(
obama, toilet, brown, turd?

is my english to anus?
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>>135120613
>>135120759
No, it's USA primarily. EU mostly supports Ukraine with words, because they don't want to ruin their relationship with Russia completely. But for USA there's no such problem.
They send their instructors and and agents like mccain and biden. They send most aid out of all countries. And people here got dissapointed with EU, but ready to suck american cock hard.
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>>135121659

Because I'am russian myself and I know how do russians works. There's no fucking way our government would be able to pull off something like that.
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Don't burgers make their own car?
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>people forgetting who will actually profit from a trade war
>and it's not (((them)))
While Europe and the USA destroy their ecenomies the Red Dragon of the east will rise and take over everything by "bailing" out the western economies. We are about to sell ourselves to insectoids from space.
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>>135121689
>some bitch says "fuck EU"
>Eu is not in charge
They started it and could not finish it again dodging responsibility
>>135121876
EU started shit, but did not understand that they were over theirs heads and now daddy USA has to clean up the mess
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HURRAY!! now poland and america are threatened with sanctions that dont mean shit!!!

this feels good now we know how poland feels to be threatened by the most cucked countries on earth
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EU-Russian coalition when? Lets retake the lost colonies.
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>>135121749
but why punish germany?
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>>135121817
>And the Russians managed to give Killary the popular vote and Trump the EV?
It's not like they had everything planned out. They had the opportunity to leak some emails that would damage the anti-russia candidate (Hillary), and they did just that.
Of course, they couldn't be sure that it would be enough for Trump to win, but I guess they had luck
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How do we deal with the Burgers and their obnoxious Polish and English puppets lads?
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>>135121876
A non-brainwashed Ukrainian? Holy fucking shit.
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>>135121749
kys, you fucking kike
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>>135121921
You read too much Sun Tzu
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>>135121839
>i find it hard to believe because the DNC admitted it was bullshit
They did? I thought all American secret services confirmed that hacking actually happens

>also no actual evidence, etc.
Well, it's really hard to provide actual evidence, because you could always assume it was some other hacker who wanted to frame Russia

>>135121921
I think you underestimate your country. Putin himself has a KGB background, so it is fair to say that secret service has a huge influence in Russia. They certanly have the capacities to hack some emails
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>>135121839
You don't have to believe the truth, but the Truth is what it is. Putin is like a dog chasing a car, now that he's caught it he has no fucking clue what to do with it. He really didn't think his cunning plan all the way through and he's attempting to compensate with a propaganda blitz, but what's the point when you only fool sub 80 IQ cretins? The entire world knows what he did, they're more wary of him than they've ever been before and his efforts got him nothing but more scrutiny. I guess his shills are happy about the whole thing because now they get lots of overtime, but I'm sure a few heads have to have rolled over this monstrous fuck up.
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>>135120960
Germany asserting control over the EU will end well for everyone, I'm sure.
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>>135120613
>Was Ukraine EU pet project or US pet project ?
It was US project... But of course, it had some "help" from Munich and Brussels.
It was a neocon wet dream to snatch Sevastopol, the Russian warm sea port... And get NATO up against Russia's borders.
Project is now a dismal failure. Ukraine little better than a failed state. Propped up with IMF funds....some of those IMF Ukrainian funds found their way into the Clinton Foundation coffers...
McCain was a big part of the EuroMaiden
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>>135121876
Yes, that's what I think myself.
For USA, the Ukraine crisis is a good opportunity to create tensions between Russia and EU.
It's a real shame that the people of Ukraine have to suffer from it, and the animosity it creates in their country
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>>135117665
The US economy is in no way stronget than the EU. Freaking 12% of US GDP comes from debt. The US economy is basically a dumpster fire at this point.
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>>135122067
DNC didn't give a shit about Russia until they needed a boogeyman.

>>135122199
do you make $75 a week for shitposting like this?
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>>135122204
>kosher nazi on the right

kek, it's like that one picture he took with ISIS members. There should be a McCain photo compilation.
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>>135120759
Neocons. Thought Ukraine would be a great way to antagonise Russia....

Source: "Forbes" The European Union Isn't Going To Bail Out Ukraine

https://www.forbes.com/sites/markadomanis/2014/08/25/the-european-union-isnt-going-to-bail-out-ukraine/

The United States and its European allies share most of the responsibility for the crisis.
The taproot of the trouble is NATO enlargement, the central element of a larger strategy to move Ukraine out of Russia’s orbit and integrate it into the West.
At the same time, the EU’s expansion eastward and the West’s backing of the pro-democracy movement in Ukraine -- beginning with the Orange Revolution in 2004 -- were critical elements, too.
Since the mid-1990s, Russian leaders have adamantly opposed NATO enlargement, and in recent years, they have made it clear that they would not stand by while their strategically important neighbor turned into a Western bastion.
For Putin, the illegal overthrow of Ukraine’s democratically elected and pro-Russian president -- which he rightly labeled a “coup” -- was the final straw.
He responded by taking Crimea, a peninsula he feared would host a NATO naval base, and working to destabilize Ukraine until it abandoned its efforts to join the West.

Putin’s pushback should have come as no surprise.
After all, the West had been moving into Russia’s backyard and threatening its core strategic interests, a point Putin made emphatically and repeatedly.
Elites in the United States and Europe have been blindsided by events only because they subscribe to a flawed view of international politics.

But this grand scheme went awry in Ukraine.
The crisis there shows that the U.S. and European leaders blundered in attempting to turn Ukraine into a Western stronghold on Russia’s border.
Now that the consequences have been laid bare, it would be an even greater mistake to continue this misbegotten policy.
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>>135121992
>Chinese hollywood
>Parts of fertile land owned everywhere
>Biggest buyer of gold with idea of Gold backed currency (including e-commerce)
>Colonization and military bases in Africa
>Silk Road trough Eurasia to Germany
>Alibaba as main alternative to Amazon with much much cheaper stuff and can be easily switched to new currency.
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>>135122194

But Jewillary was destroyed not by hacking itself, but by the contents of that emails isn`t she?
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Burgers tell your senators to stop being cunts.
How much more of this muhh russia bullshit can you pull?
We literally dindu nuffin
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>>135122503
and the content of the emails was leaked by somebody
And while we don't have 100% proof who it was, it is certain that russia has the capabilities and the motivation to leak her emails
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>>135122501

Like... yeah, it's happening right now already. And there`re acres of russian lands owned by china like right now.
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>>135122324
>accusing anyone telling the truth of telling lies and being a shill while shilling your alternative version of reality

fuck off shill. Your tactics of accusing others of doing precisely what you yourself do is what makes you so transparent.

And if you're not a shill, then you're a moron to not realize the organized Russian propaganda effort that's been going on here for years. Russia is the leading worldwide manufacturer of propaganda online, even the US doesn't come close.
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>>135115227
RT can suck it. The sanctions bill states the EU is required to help force sanctions. They are more loyal to us than Russia so fuck off RT.
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>>135115227
>EU
>having guts
lol no. When US was found spying on Merkel and listening to her cell phone all Germany did was kindly ask "please can you pretend not to in future?"
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>>135122204
ukraine is a failed state, people just make final push to optimize their business and real estate. business and economy have lag.

so existance of ukraine today is a result of productivity of russian and malorossian people that care about their business and stuff in central and eastern ukraine. they need to keep things working to finish their business. IMF only makes harm, because it allowed Poroshenko regime to survive.

people were unprepared in 2014. in couple years people will adapt to new economic reality and JSC "Ukraine" will be closed in nearest 2-3 years becaue 2/3 of remained population is either unproductive and too old or brainwashed.

in the same time all resources that could be used for war or to feed shitheads are already consumed.
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>>135120891
>why antagonise Russia? Part of the "Grand Chessboard" game being played since the 1700s.

Why the Ukraine Crisis Is the West’s Fault

But this account is wrong: the United States and its European allies share most of the responsibility for the crisis. The taproot of the trouble is NATO enlargement, the central element of a larger strategy to move Ukraine out of Russia’s orbit and integrate it into the West. At the same time, the EU’s expansion eastward and the West’s backing of the pro-democracy movement in Ukraine -- beginning with the Orange Revolution in 2004 -- were critical elements, too. Since the mid-1990s, Russian leaders have adamantly opposed NATO enlargement, and in recent years, they have made it clear that they would not stand by while their strategically important neighbor turned into a Western bastion. For Putin, the illegal overthrow of Ukraine’s democratically elected and pro-Russian president -- which he rightly labeled a “coup” -- was the final straw. He responded by taking Crimea, a peninsula he feared would host a NATO naval base, and working to destabilize Ukraine until it abandoned its efforts to join the West.

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/141769/john-j-mearsheimer/why-the-ukraine-crisis-is-the-wests-fault
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>>135122598
Assange has already said it wasn't Russians.

>>135122671
>being this fucking dumb
i'm surprised you haven't choked to death on your own spit yet.
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>>135122495
>let me throw some basic bitch shit at you
wow I totally been living under a rock and I did not know this thank you nigger kangaroo, I will totally ignore who started this whole thing so EU could just wash its hands off.
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>>135115227
i see nothing wrong with that
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>>135122598
You mean seth rich right?
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>>135122495
Reminder that directly after Trump met with the Russian ambassador at the RNC he pushed to change the party's platform on Ukraine to withdraw support from them. This was the ONLY thing he requested be changed in the platform.
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>>135120289
>The economy is the single most important thing for nations/civilization as a whole you uneducated fat fuck.
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>>135122788
It seems like Russia has wikileaks in the pocket
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>>135122656
Yeah, it's just initial steps.
Everybody forgets that China is still ideologically revolutionist (in international sense).
They got "25-лeткa" for foreign monetary policy.
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>>135121667
>Germany exports almost as much as the US with 4x fewer people
>Germany produces nothing of value
Why are burgers so retarded?
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>>135122598

Listen, dude, there`s no proof whatsoever. And it's like... I think it's stupid to think that Russia can cover up anything. How many fuckups happened in SE of Ukraine? And Jewillry stuff is much more complicated, there`s no way kgb fags wouldn't fuck up with that aswell.
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>>135122891
They literally moved their servers to Russia.
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>>135122042
Leave Poland Out of your cuckoldry
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>>135122964
You do realize Russia has one of the best secret service agencies in the world, right?
And sure, we will never be entierly sure if Russia really did this, but it seems really likely to me that they did
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>>135122891
clearly that's the only possibility right? couldn't have been a random hacker, a DNC employee or anything (like the guy who was just arrested).
obviously the only reasonable explanation is wikileaks is paid for.
lol.

>>135122851
>this fucking nigger again
every one of your posts is a leftist talking point. you're not even a good shill, you're fucking boring.
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>>135120289
Fuck off Germany. You lot will be starving in the street when Uncle Sam is done with you.
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>>135122912

Russia is already getting fucked by the chinese "friends" if eurocucks wouldn`t be able to realize that they`re next, they`re fucked too.
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>>135122671
For fucks sake burger. It isn't propaganda. What is it to get you to understand that I despise your current deep state system to its very core? I despise your champagne liberals and their preaching of LGBTBBQ "Freedoms" that my country does not need. I despise YOUR meddling in OUR government by enforcing a puppet fat fuck on strings for three terms in a row who goes to the US embassy before he visits the Parliament when he has to sign international agreements. And I don't need Russia to tell me this shit, I'm aware of it on my own and I'm against it.

That said I DON'T hate the American people and I certainly respect the US Military, its just unfortunate those good men are dying out there in the service not of their country but the project for a New Globalist Century, a project engineered by Wall Street and their deep state including the CIA, NSA and FBI.
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>>135119053
>You don't support German-Russian alliance that partitioned you multiple times in history. REEEEEE we will partition you for this!

why even live...
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>>135123056
Of course it could be, it just seems to me like Russia is the most likely explanation
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>>135123040

Our secret service agencies are that good that they've fucked up with literally anything with Ukraine, starting with initial Orange Revolution itself. You're delusional mate.
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>>135117665
Fucking Amen Netherlands. I've always liked you lot. America has been defying authoritarian governments since 1776 and still going strong.

God bless America.
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Fuck Germany and Fuck Russia.
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>>135122964
They didn't cover it up though. They got caught red handed. They're attempting to cover it up by pushing the seth rich bullshit and the autism blog thing trying to discredit the DNS analysis of their servers that were connected to Trump tower and Spectrum health. That's some shitty blog with a single post that has been pushed to the top of google results with bots. This shit is transparent to anyone with half a brain, but the cretins here are too stupid to see it. Or rather they just see whatever they want to see because it validates their feels.
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>>135121249
Yes. If anyone wants to "understand" Putin, all they have to do is click a you tube. It does my head in that the internet makes it possible to access anything from anywhere - yet seems like it's still 1950 and the Iron Curtain is still in force.
Putin at SPIEF - from 2014 to,2017... It's very clear what he is saying.
And the Russians don't want war...... But as Putin says.... If a fight is inevitable, then strike first.
Further encroachment into Ukraine by NATO - that's the red line....
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>>135122912
chine cant exist without west

west irronically is backed by their currency

people need western currency to trade and to make savings because it is stable

it is stable because jews and feudals turned people into slaves

when you use western fiat currency you know that you can use it to buy objects that bring rent or slaves that will reduce maintanance. slaves are controlled by army.

but today ability to collect rent reduced, so interest in their currency and bonds drop, people invest in real things. with time west will reduce trade deficit with china , because china collects profit that can be payed to european oligarchs.

china witout export will collapse due to crisis of overproduction in 2 years. to collapse china EU and USA just need to stop buying their goods.
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>>135123056
It's not a leftist talking point, it's reality. It happened. There's proof. You're denying reality if you try to deny it happened. You literally have to push away anything that challenges your world view because you're pathetic and you just care about validating your feelings rather than pursuing the truth.
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>>135123421

The point is that chinese cucks don`t want to be cucked anymore. They`re colonising Africa. They`re buying Russia part by part. And I think they`ll be at the Eurocuck`s gates by 2020.
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>>135123372
Ukraine will never NATO now, because of disputed lands. If West gets involved in Crimea it would trigger WW3.
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>>135123290
>>135123443
Listen burger I don't care if it happened. If Russia opposes the Clinton-Bush Crime Family which I've opposed long before the Trump election, then I'm with them.
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>>135123576
*join NATO.
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>>135115227
nice fuck germany up pls
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>>135121688
>big geopolitical happenings in 2017 and (((pol))) is defending the deep state decision to push sanctions
The blind! wilful! determined ignorance on display in this thread is terrifying...... Especially as /pol/ has an arrogant self- belief in its own superior intellect.
Scary.
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>>135123153
I'm not claiming the US doesn't control other countries with propaganda, I'm just saying Russia does the same thing, they do it even better than the US does and they're doing it in this situation. Not one person has been able to come up with a reasonable explanation for why the US would just make up all this stuff about Russia interfering in their election. They haven't been able to explain why even Trump's own officials continue to claim Russia hacked into our voting infrastructure and led a bot targeted social media propaganda campaign to help Trump get elected. If you think they're just making it all up, tell me what they have to gain by doing so. Tell me why Trump is the only one in the government who continues to deny their interference.
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>>135123290
>the cretins here
>it validates their feels
>more line by line liberal talking points
hmmmmm
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This will probably push us even closer to China.
And I still don't understand what US trying to achieve here.

Russia is not a school girl what you can lock in her room because she was a bad girl.
It pretty big country with infinite amount of resources, pretty good industry and plenty of trade partners outside US/EU.
Russia will be fine.

I not happy that we being absorbed by chinks, but still, they have plenty of time and opportunities to prevent this and befriend Russia, but now it clearly too late.
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>>135123697
If Russia is so good at it, why haven't they gotten rid of our US cuck PM, why didn't they succeed with Le Pen? Because I can point you to actual CIA interference in the French and Bulgarian elections this year.
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>>135123716

> pretty good industry

LMAO

This is why chiggers ate russian market and now dictating rules. Because we`ve got good industry.
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>>135123562
it doesnt matter what they want, all leftists ignore reality and how economy works.

they have too weak army to do anything againt west or russia. they have too big population.

russia has trade proficit with china, this profict increases each year.investment projects in russia are under control of russian army. if somebody invests, then they will be forced to buy russian goods for construction and shit

the real danger is in europe, because such attitude with debt, rapefugees and other shit as today can lead to totalitarianism again, like in 1930s.

in ukraine jews established simple dictatorship just in 2 years.
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>>135123716
I don't know if it's too late, but unfortunately Russia is having to deal with shit because the American left is still in hysterics because they lost an election to someone right out of their nightmare.
They are utterly self absorbed and consumed with maintaining power and authority. They're willing to extend their tantrum into international politics. It's embarrassing.
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>>135119517
You're suppose to suck German and Russian dick because it's "better" is what I'm getting from his post.
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>>135115227
fuck germany
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>>135123805
They're good but they're not magicians. They certainly tried with Le Pen, they just failed because Frenchies are marginally more intelligent than the knuckle draggers in the US. Having a female candidate didn't help either. They also didn't have the same level of support from US propagandists like Robert Mercer and Fox news in the French election. Their elections are set up to resist that kind of interference much better than in the US where it's a media free for all.
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>EU trying to threaten the United States of America

LAUGHING MY FUCKING ASS OFF
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>>135124035
Yeah a system of government passed by the "French" government with CIA assistance back in the Cold War to prevent communist parties and now nationalist parties from gaining power.
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>>135122501
this

china has recently maneuvered to displace the USD as world's reserver currency

russian hard power + sino economic power = RIP US world order
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>>135123716
I personally want to see the EU destroyed. Even if that mean an Euro-Asian Union in it's place
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>>135123939

Yeah, I understand that. But I see that China building fleets. I see that China reaches spaces easily. I see China overtaking russian economy. And I see that russians are okay with that.

You don`t have to oppose Russia if you own it.
http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/022/138/reece.JPG
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>>135121249
Have you seen the documentary - Crimea, Long Way Home?. On you tube. Pick the one with 10million views. I found it a brilliant way to understand what and why of 2014 and the referendum to join the Russian Federation.
I also found the segments dealing with the manipulated civil unrest educational - tactics used in Libya, Syria.... And in 2017 at "disruptJ20" in the US. Fascinating.
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>>135123697
There doesn't need to be an explanation.

The "evidence" (an unconfirmed, anonymous confession) is bullshit, so there's no reason to believe Russia did anything. If there's no evidence, then as far as anyone knows there's no crime. The burden of proof is still on YOU to prove Russia did anything, because nothing has been proven yet. It doesn't matter if a billion people support this fake news, because the truth has nothing to do with consensus.
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>>135117704
PAY NATO DENBTS
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>>135117860
Nah. Fuck jewmerica
Only a christcuck could love a shithole as degenerate as america. Fat boomer cuckservatism
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>>135122501
>Alibaba as main alternative to Amazon with much much cheaper stuff and can be easily switched to new currency.

with quantum messing system
https://www.rt.com/viral/397621-china-quantum-messenger-unhackable/
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>>135122703
Dumbass
Why are you defending this bullshit?
Trump didnt even pass it.
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>>135122203
It isn't Germany half of the Eu is really pissed about it, because other gas transit has historically been wither very expensive or unreliable. I personally believe the countries pissed have a majority of the votes, so they the counter sanctions eu wide are possible. Else it will probably be just Fance, Austria, Holland, Italy, Belgium, Germany and maybe Spain directly.
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>>135124461
>historically been either
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>>135124206
china's military is shit. see
>>135124176

imma try to find the article, but it's effectively russia provides security and china provides economic financing
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>>135124227

You can't come up with an explanation because it's fucking retarded. They're not going to let everyone examine secure servers related to our voting infrastructure for obvious reasons. If you think they're lying and this is a massive conspiracy between almost every member of the government, at least come up with a fucking plausible theory of why the entire government is conspiring. I hate imbeciles like you who can't use their fucking brains to think critically about things. You believe whatever validates your feelings because you're too stupid to think.
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>>135117455
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>>135118799
Poland has strong ties to Israel. It's why they are neocons
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>>135121839
>also no actual evidence,
Contrasted against the emerging compelling g evidence re the DNC + Crowdstrike + Fusion GPS + Chalupa + farkas + McCain + Comey + lynch + Wasserman Shultz + And a cast of undertstudoes too numerous to mention.... All working to install HRC, and to create the "Russians" narrative post election.
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>>135124461
This. I'm not a big Germany fan but at least Merkel voted against fag marriage that US Ambassadors are pushing for world-wide.
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>>135117964
Yeah, we know how much you ductchcucks like niggercock & multiculturalism that amerimutts spread to our continent.
https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/06TALLINN576_a.html
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>>135124206
fleet can be destroyed with missiles
non-commercial space = waste of money
china cant overtake russian economy because russia has trade proficit with china and protectionism, china produces shitty goods. russian liberals are poorfags, so big % of their spendings are chinese goods, like cellphones and shit, middle class people buy russian and european goods. same is with industrial demand.
russian business is more competitive than chinese, because china is based on manipulation of currency, state debt and export of shitty goods. they cant propose anything else. allmost everything that they make is shit, but it is very cheap, so they have success in africa.
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>>135115227
Death to america
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>>135124035
This post is great. You can feel the self loathing oozing from the pores of liberals.
After losing the election, the cognitive dissonance is so strong that it they have no choice but to suckle the cock of publications like vox, and watch CNN.
slowly their mouths fill will that comforting taste of paranoia and they wander down the trail of conspiracy.
Then they come here and post and we get to witness this firsthand.
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>>135124179
this plays right into the silk road 2.0

you dumb fucks
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>>135124217
mccain is ill lol

it looks like russophobia is bad for health
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>>135115227
Germs and ruskies
Classic
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>>135124649

> make is shit, but it is very cheap, so they have success in africa

I am working for company that imports industrial shit from China and there`re lots of stuff we`re buying from them which is used in our military stuff and heavy duty industrial equipment. And it's not all that cheap and shitty.
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>>135121921
Sorry to have to agree with you...
Actually, what does "meddling" look like? What actual actions does it involve?
Airing a few program's on RT? Is that all it takes to defeat the all powerful America ?
Michael Moore documentaries are more subversive than RT!
How *exactly* , *precisely* did the Russians "meddled" or "mess" with the US. Presidential elections???
! The DNC + HRC "Russians" narrative is beyond incredible, it's actually insane!
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>>135124727
Whatever, I care less about shekels and more about the future of Europe
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>>135124900
Americans and Polish + Brit pets.

Classic.
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>>135117974
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>>135124303
This.
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Thing everyone seems to be ignoring, is that they are literally saying ''waaaaah Russians exposed the corruption of Democratic Party, but never mind that, RUSSIANS!!!!!''.
So even if they did it (I believe they did), they simply informed the American voter better. How is this ''against democracy'' lol?
Neoliberal/neocon cult is reaching epic proportions of schizophrenia.
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>>135118743
It's different this time. We have troops on the ground in Poland RIGHT NOW.
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>>135121968
We get our cars made in mehico by Pablo. Capitalist kikes shipping our jobs away while importing their cheap wage shitskin voting block
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>>135122067
Wikileaks has been emphatic that the *leaks* (not *hacks*) came form a non-state actor....
Wikileaks is punctilious about its reputation... So the leaks did not originate from Russia.
thre is compelling evidence some of the leaks were from Seth Rich, the DNC database insider. A thorough, impartial investigation of his murder would establish the veracity of this assumption.

The Russian narrative was constructed by John Podesta and Robbie Mook in the days after the election loss to explain the DNC total and absolute humiliating failure.
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>>135124916
then i can understand your butthurt lol, there is no need to have "spacer" like your company if you can directly contact chinese holding and particular factory. LOL. you dont even need to leave your office, you can do it online.

russian holdings do not buy chinese goods for investment reasons

they buy chinese shit only to use in schemes with normal price to , this is 1990s attitute that dissapears

normal holding buys everyhting form partners, 95% of money flow goes to partners inside russia.

5% to europe and other countries, europe produces shit that cant be produxed in russia today due to effect of scale, But it will be produced in the future with the acquisition of lands and population.
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>>135124542
I have no responsibility to explain anything. Try presenting some evidence.
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>>135124900
The companies involved are also British, French and dutch. It's basically all of Europe, if you exclude the baltics and Poland.
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>>135115227
EU will impose sanctions and then beg the us military to enforce them?
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>>135125308
typo.
schemes with normal price to avoid tax and to get cash.

also they buy chinese plastic shit to feed hipsters and liberals, because russian hipsters andliberals have less money than european, but same silly attitude.
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>>135122194
>>i find it hard to believe because the DNC admitted it was bullshit
They did? I thought all American secret services confirmed that hacking actually happens
Nope. The "17intelligence agencies" narrative was debunked from the get-go..... But the CNN + NYT and WaPo kept repeating it for months.... Creating the "belief" that it was true...
Eventually the lie was revoked and all news ran "corrections"...... Corrections which were hidden and ran once... So most people never realised the lie had been proven as a lie.
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>>135125308

The point is Russia invests more in China than China invests in Russia. We`re not partners in fact. We`re depending on them while they still can find a way to sell their shit. We`re not going to be able to find substitute.

Have you heard about Siemens and Crimea?
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>>135120289
the world economy doesn't revolve around the german/eu economy
you losers are fucked
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>>135115227
Had to read that title twice to process that we are trying to put sanctions on the U.S.
How the fuck do you even sanction a country thats basically your bodyguard (without fucking yourself over)?
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>tfw when /pol/ thought all along ww3 would be whites vs shitskins
>tfw when it really will be eu vs us vs russia, and the last white homelands will cease to exist
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>>135125430
They won't send ships to blockade the American ports, how geopolitically illiterate one has to be to think like that. They will for every European company that suffers from US sanctions create sanctions for a US company in Europe.
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What do we get from them, overpriced cars.
Good Riddance you should be buying American anyway
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>>135122199
>Putin is like a dog chasing a car, now that he's caught it he has.....
Where do you get these fantastic ideas from?
Putin is an extremely clear thinking strategist.
With 50 states, 100 million voters - how *exactly* did Putin subversively control the US election?
He could not.
He did not.
When Trump said - on the campaign trail_ that it might be a "good idea" for the US to have better relations with Russia, Putin endorsed this idea.
And why would he not? Surely positive relations between US and Russia ARE a good thing?
Better than the alternative!
If you want to know what Putin thinks - how he is responding to events in the US - spend 8 minutes on TASS each morning. It's worth your time. And a better investment than CNN in understanding geopolitics.
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>>135124542
Our government doesn't work for us. It works to further Israel interests and to uplift shitskin third worlders of our dime. Kikemerica is disgusting. It's happening they are all globalists
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>>135125988
>Where do you get these fantastic ideas from?
CNN and Megyn Kelly, probably.
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>>135125594
russia is a not single company lol, you have communistic attitude

there is no need to find substitute, everything can be produced at home, liberals just need to die. all thats goods are useless.

such commie attitude caused collapse in ukraine, because people thoight that thy can command reality

russian business invests to get profit, states only makes rules. if they invest in china then they will bring income home.

you ignore the fact about trade balances and shit that caused all this actions.

thats why wise Emperor Putin (god bless him) signs deal with europeans, he can explain them that russia sells 2-3x more thans buys, russia respects european colonies and slaves if europe doesnt try to invade russian living space. then they can trade to get more profit.

i dont mind new Ukraine to buy european goods if ukrainians have trade proficit (caused by trade with africa, asia and china) and own all money flow.

the biggest probelsm are liberals and their deformed brain
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>TRUMP
Trump has nothing to do with it
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>>135122379
Yeah. There's a gallery of him in Libya - AFTER the US ambassador was murdered.
Actually: here's my McCain "file"

And everywhere... Lurking in every shadow....... Is McCain.
McCain + ISIS
McCain + Pakistan
McCain + Ukraine (EuroMaiden)
McCain + Crimea
McCain + #pissgate
McCain + Comey
McCain + Saudi Arabia
McCain + Qatar
McCain + Moldova
McCain + Libya
McCain + Bulgaria
McCain + Donbass
McCain + Albania
McCain + Kosovo (KLA)
McCain + Cyprus

And a final, *special*
McCain and Israel
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>>135125988
They used bots to target voters in key swing states. They spread fake news about Hillary on their vast network of propaganda sites and Trump supporters spread them for them. Trump won by 80k votes. If you don't think a propaganda effort could have swayed that many then you're very very stupid.
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>>135125819
/pol/ is mainly summerfags, plebbitors and boomers, these people dont think and fall straight into kike hands over and over again, defending the deep-state-created sanctions and giving the finger to their president, europe and russia.
Fuck them.
It's like shariablue shilling but on a massive scale.
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>>135125981
I would rather buy a vehicle produced by white people than buy a car made in mexico or china
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>>135126224
>McCain + Bulgaria
Oh yeah, let's not forget that this cunt literally single-handedly brought down our government and ruined relations with Russia, working to appoint the current cuck fat fuck US puppet to a second term, he now has a third one thanks to CIA interference.
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>>135125666
I can explain it, first countries like Britain and France can count on their own power to some degree, but even that is somewhat risky for them and therefore they will still want to get under the sphere of influence of the big players. The EU tried to be one of this big players, but mostly failed. So this sanctions will either strengthen European cooperation (maybe this was partly intended by the bill) or lead to a more Russian friendly approach (of some or all), a combination of both results is also possible. For Germany as a result of the post war order, there is a limited amount of freedom in, what they can do. They can either go with the US or go with at least a big part of Europe (mostly France or Britain).
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>>135121224
> know Jesus was English?
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
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>>135117455
go enjoy your "cheese" stan
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>>135126668
Come on now, he definitely may have had the same ethnicity as 90% of Britain's population right now.
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>>135119701
only the white colored countries allowed to reply to this post
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>>135126545
Addendum it's also possible that the congress and senate want to make an example and fuck the Trump presidency up big time, at least some things point into this direction. They could try to make all of the EU completely opposed and claim the resulting economic fuck up was trumps immigration policy.
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>>135126749
Paki? Maybe
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>>135122541
>We literally dindu nuffin
But that is. It true, is it?
RF responded when ally Syrian govt asked for help. RF hands CIA=ISIS asses. Syria remains sovereign.
When Turkey shot down RF plane... RF introduced sanctions! brought Turkey to heel... And then warned Erdogan of the Pentagon backed assassination attempt.
When the neocons started their EuroMaiden with the goal of grabbing Sevastopol ... The RF allowed Crimea to join the Federation.
Instead of crumbling and failing under sanctions the RF has forged a powerful and threatening economic and military alliance with China.
RF economy is growing and diversifying.
You guys have been a real pain in the neocon ass....... And for that, you gonna have to be "punished" (like naughty school,children)...
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>>135118627
Wow this a fine picture
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>>135126976
>Instead of crumbling and failing under sanctions the RF has forged a powerful and threatening economic and military alliance with China.
>RF economy is growing and diversifying.

Almost perfect shilling comment but not quite there yet, try again. The rest is fine but these two are pathetic.
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>>135119159
There will be no Russia-China pact, Russian politics are retards, and chinese ones know that. China will feed on russian resources and nothing more.
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>>135122671
>Russia is the leading worldwide manufacturer of propaganda online, even the US doesn't come close.
!
Hollywood - you've head of the US entertainment industry? Shaping western cultural beliefs for the past 80+ years?
The Rocky movies?
Dark zero thirty?
Black Hawk Down?
American Sniper?
US conglomerates control media across the whole planet.... And *one* RF funded media outlet is able to counterbalance all of that!
Wew!
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>>135124900
>american pet
Classic.
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>>135122734
Agree.
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>>135115227
Yes! Time to blockade all naval trade from continental Europe.
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>>135116422
>>135119816
>>135120064
>>135120149
>>135121044
Trump needs to veto the bill, force them to override, force the underlying issues out into the light of day. Nobody even knows about it right now. Then, when it is overridden, he needs to stack on signing statements that in effect say, "the executive branch will not follow the unconstitutional portions of this bill, which is just about all of it."

Actually, on this topic, does anyone know if the president actually signs / can make signing statements in the event of an override? If not, that could be why he's indicated an intent to sign...
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>>135127459
while at it, blockade the whole world, or even betterr- blockade your own ports so no foreign goods can reach your shores. America first!
>>135127580
ye, the deep state will FUCK trump hard and this is one chance for him to get major political leaders from abroad to back him against the senate and congress.
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>>135122851
The Ukraine govt was running an openly hostile and oppositional campaign (see twitter) against Trump.
Poroshenko totally shat himself when Trump won.
Crawled like a dog into the White House to lick trumps shoes...... Like a beaten dog...
Ukraine nightmare is the US will walk away from this failed neocon (Obama) project.
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>>135126976
You're getting it wrong. Russia sits in Syria only to disallow gas and oil transit to Europe US try to establish.

Russian economic is falling apart without EU investments and there are no alliance with China, because China doesn't believe in Russia. The EU may suffer from sanctions, but Russia will suffer the most.
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>>135127164
Actually those two are easily confirmable facts.
Russia did diversify its production under sanctions and GDP growth has returned as of 2017. Google ist dein Freund, Hans.
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>>135123153
>... just unfortunate those good men are dying out there in the service not of their country but the project for a New Globalist Century, a project engineered by Wall Street and their deep state including the CIA, NSA and FBI.
In Afghanistan their dying to protect the CIA heroin.
Heroic work.
>>
Suck balls
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>>135128085
It's a populist media bullshit.
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>>135127734
Ironically the blockade of Europe in Medium and longterm would be the best that could happen to the Europe.
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>>135128244
>facts that are confirmed by international monetary institutions are bullshit because I only believe in Navalny
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>>135123217
> You're delusional mate.
You need to understand the US shitposters are afflicted by 70+ years of indoctrination.... Hollywood, TV,.... For more than half a century have portrayed the Russians as this master race of total evil, total conniving and super sneaky super heros..... A former KGB agent can gain control of 60 million US voters just using the power of his mind !
If only Russians *really* were this stupendously superhuman... !
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>>135128333
trips of truth, elaborate
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>>135128377
I'm not for Navalny, but I see the real picture around me, with 6 factories dying at this very time because of great management and growing unemployment rates.
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>>135128085
I doubt there is GDP growth the population is ageing and declining. Even in the West there is no real GDP growth, but the statistics make it look like there is one.
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>>135120289
>The economy is the single most important thing for nations/civilization as a whole

t. kike
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>>135128538
with the introduction of automatisation and the digitalisation of the economy yep, there is some decent growth happening, but its underwhelming.
Deluding yourself that the white nations are prospering is falling for jewish tricks.
We are dwindling and fading away
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>>135128518
Oh so you have anecdotal evidence. Good on you. Protip: just because the economy grows does not mean every single company will grow with it. Noncompetitive firms will still die and Russia will have a lot of that down the line because of a lot of factories being built by Soviet planning rather than economic viability.
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>>135123576
>Ukraine will never NATO now, because of disputed lands. If West gets involved in Crimea it would trigger WW3.

"Trigger WW3": agree
"NATO won't" - well there is an aggressive project underway right now to arm Ukraine.... So... Neocons are batshit crazy.... ! Who knows?
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>>135128516
I would stop companies from driving down the quality and the cost of products with cheap, but also qualitativly limited goods. Our problem is the technolglical and scientific progress we share with the rest of the world creating all kinds of problems (like over Population, dangerous enemys like China). The jobs would return to Europe and cheap unnesseary crap from China wouldn't be a thing.
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>>135126853
>Crashing your own economy/country only because you don't like Trump
I want to believe that no one could be so retarded, but the last 2 years have shown that they are willing to walk the extra mile only to shit on Trump.
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>>135129006
but how will we maintain our export markets if we embargo the shit out of everybody?
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>>135125167
Those idiots that make 4 road accidents a weak because they cant handle traffic here?
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>>135129259
>deep state fuck shit up and destroy american working class only to get what they want
PaulJWatson.jpg
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>>135123697
>Not one person has been able to come up with a reasonable explanation for why the US would just make up all this stuff about Russia interfering in their election. They haven't been able to explain why even Trump's own officials continue to claim Russia hacked into our voting infrastructure and led a bot targeted social media propaganda campaign to help Trump get elected. If you think they're just making it all up, tell me what they have to gain by doing so. Tell me why Trump is the only one in the government who continues to deny their interference....
Ok. Serious question: Do you*really*' want answers to the questions you pose ?
Cause there *are* answers! but the answers are long and complex... And best discovred by your own reading and research.
If you *do*'want to go down the rabbit hole that your questions demand be explored.... I can give you some references and a guide book.... But you have to go on this journey yourself...
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>>135128912
So I see that you never been in Russia (well, maybe except Moscow or St. Petersburg). It's not about Soviet planning, it's about oligarchs backed by Putin's regime %%I should say Putin's regime backed by oligarchs instead%%, that buy something, extensively suck all possible resources from it in short-term without any investment and close it. Russian government didn't even build oil refining plants they always talk about with all these oil dollars came from 2000 till 2014.
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>>135124176
Thank you!
I been stating similar this whole thread.... But you win with simplicity of working.
!
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>>135129784
dude, stop the proxy already, this is pathetic, I'm ok with nationals shilling for their own country
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>>135124133
You're lTe to this thread, bud.... Most of your kind have buggered off.
Just adults and geopolitical thinkers left here now... Toddle off if you don't want to have the duco chipped off your insular world view
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>>135124217
McCain can't die quickly enough is my POV.
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>>135124227
>because the truth has nothing to do with consensus.

Truth is now a subversive act. An Orwellian think-crime
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