There is absolutely no reason for trump to ban trans peoples

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>>135108406
Right, because the military would benefit from soldiers cutting off their penis and spending countless days in a hospital to perpetually reopen their fake pussy hole that their body wants to heal...

>>135108675
Most would have already been fully post-op cases though.

>>135108675
Are people actually doing that while they're deployed tho? Seems unlikely. What are there like 4 transgender people in the military anyways?

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>>135108406

Let's give a bunch of insecure people filled with hormonal imbalances and possibly surgical complications a gun and put them into dangerous situations that require an enormous amount of mental stability.

>>135108850
"Dilation" is a lifetime commitment.

A military of mentally ill degenerates. Sure thing you gay cunt

>>135108406
There is absolutely no reason to let mentally ill trans people into the military.

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Stop replying to shill threads, you faggots.

>>135108850
So? Do you think post-op means they are now an actual woman with a perfect innie? No, they still have a grotesque monstrosity surrounding an artificial hole that the body is endlessly trying to heal because they are now an intentionally wounded man, not a woman.

>>135108406

41% suicide rate

transfaggots are a liability.

>>135108406
Except they are mentally ill. Thats a very good reason to not allow them in.

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Ok, so,

How many jobs in the military could have drastic consequences do to less than 100% focus and concentration between administrative, combat, maintenance, and transport duties?

Now where do you think that trans soldier's mind is at if they miss ONE hormone treatment?

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>>135109219
Why not ban all soldiers on mood altering medication then? Why not ban soldiers on anti-depressants?

>>135108406
I didn't realise that trannies and leftists were so keen to sign up to shoot muslims to secure more oil for the guy that they've been calling Hitler for months now. Wtf I'm a #NyeGuy now.

>>135109404
Which, might I remind you, is very possible since even getting FOOD to deployed soldiers is sometimes hard to fucking do?

>>135109411
hold up nigger do they not
its disqualifying at the MEPS at least

>>135109411
Um, they do. It's called a psyche eval and many people fail it.

>>135108406
you know what's pathetic? cutting your dick off because you're a mentally ill faggot

>>135109411
>Implying that active duty soldiers are allowed to deploy with clinical depression with prescriptions on files

I admit the military can be sorta inept, BUT NOT THAT FUCKING INEPT.

>>135109411
L m a o
How's the basement kid

>>135108406
Your tears and cries of despair sustain me. I want you to know that.

>>135108406
Trans people have a delusional mental disorder called gender dysphoria.
Their delusion makes them think they need to permanently mutilate their body to obtain a semblance (though usually not very convincing) to the opposite sex. They do that, then almost half of them try to commit suicide.
Obviously that kind of self-destructive behavior and emotional unbalance is no good. People who have gender dysphoria need help, they should not be in the military.

>>135109411
You DO need good mental health to be in the military.
Also, trans people are people with a severe mental disorder which has gone untreated. At least a depressed person taking antidepressants is doing something to treat his depression.

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>>135108406
Fuck off. The military doesnt need social politics and transgender fags are at the top of the list.

>>135109494
Getting water to deployed soldiers is sometimes hard to do.

Logistics is a bitch.

>>135110090

Yeah, my bro's in Niger rn, only got two spoonfuls at chow.

In total. Regular spoons, like eating spoons. I sent that man a shit ton of jerky.

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You can't be in the military if you're suicidal/depressed, needless to say that excludes all trannies. Making an exception for them in the first place was just patronizing them

>>135108406
He should ban you faggots from living.

>>135109036
I keep hearing this. What does dilation mean in this context?

>>135111117
Making sure the giant gash between your legs doesn't heal by reopening it.

>>135111117
Male to female transition trans people have to shove a dildo in the open wound that's supposed to be a vagina or else it'll heal up and you become Ken. Also, hairballs.

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>>135111261
That's pretty fucking disgusting. Thanks

These drumpftards are too bigoted to allow men with meat holes in the military.

>>135111398
No problem, Garcon.

>>135108406
I agree, I mean they could be used as a distraction when fighting isis. Since they would most likely stone them to death for their faggottry. While they're distracted we nuke em

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>>135108406

THEY ARE NOT WOMEN!!
THEY ARE GRAVELY WOUNDED/MAIMED MEN WHO ARE NOT FIT FOR DUTY!

>>135111505
I'm actually a Russian American chilling in France atm

The last thing you need on the frontline is a mentally unstable faggot throwing themselves into on coming fire

>>135111710
Is France less white than Russia now?

How is this even an issue?

Trannies are like a fraction of a percent of the population and most of them are raging anti-military libfags.

>>135108406
>/pol/ being against trannies dying in the military

I don't get it?

>>135108406
Troops on the front-line shouldn't have to trust their lives to mentally-ill faggots with suicidal tendencies.

>>135111870
Because, if you're just noticing the trend, Libfags don't care how few people it affects, god damn they're gonna bitch about it.

>>135111834
I've walked through 70% of Paris and about 40% of the natives are nonwhite

>>135108406
>traps are less than 1% of the population

>>135111870
Because it's a political statement about how intolerant we are becoming

This isn't how adults should act

>>135111870
>most of them are raging anti-military libfags

All the more reason for them to go crazy and commit friendly-fire or do something else to sabotage our military.

>>135112025
Return home swiftly, tovarish.

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>>135112105
"intolerant" bruh it's less than 1%

>>135108850
>"COVER ME!"
>fires rifle
>"I'VE GOTTA-"
>throws grenade at jihadis
>"DILATE MY NEO-"
>no scopes sand niggers
>"VAGINA!"
>fires mortar
>"FOR NINETY FUCKING MINUTES!"
>gets squad killed
Hey, at least that axe wound didn't close up though amirite? How on Earth could we benefit from having mentally ill people who are highly prone to suicide in our armed forces? Do we want fucking Chris Chan in charge of military hardware?

>>135108406
This is bait.

>>135111870

But they'll never miss a chance to kick the pc-tied ordinary men. If they get army, they'll whine about how presidents on dollars don't wear lipstick.

“This intensely felt sense of being transgendered constitutes a mental disorder in two respects. The first is that the idea of sex misalignment is simply mistaken – it does not correspond with physical reality. The second is that it can lead to grim psychological outcomes.”

“’Sex change’ is biologically impossible, people who undergo sex-reassignment surgery do not change from men to women or vice versa. Rather, they become feminized men or masculinized women. Claiming that this is civil-rights matter and encouraging surgical intervention is in reality to collaborate with and promote a mental disorder.”

- Dr. Paul R. McHugh, the former psychiatrist-in-chief for Johns Hopkins Hospital and its current Distinguished Service Professor of Psychiatry

>>135112223
Just because the numbers are small doesn't mean you should ignore them

>>135112256
But this way, we're able to distill our argument to something that can't just be laughed off by poking holes in each other's arguments.

Argument moonshine.

FUCK TRANNIES, THEY ARE MENTALLY ILL AND NOT NORMAL

>>135112298
Exactly.

>>135112432
T. Snowflake

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>>135112432
finally someone that actually thinks

>>135112332
but it's just principle autism

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>>135111261
Jesus fucking christ.

You guys have just made me realize something.

>Hedwig and the Angry Inch

>The song "Angry Inch" "And all thats left......is a one inch mound of flesh, where my penis used to be, where my vagina never was"

Shit, that play/movie is probably one of the single most ANTI TRANS THINGS EVER FUCKING MADE, and even the creators of it dont realize it.

>And Peter Steele and Type O Negative covered it as a tongue in cheek "FUCK YOU" to people saying they were homophobic

Pete and Type O knew what the fuck they were doing. Im actually happy for once that he died, because he didnt have to see what the world ultimately became.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkurr3elzaE

>>135108406
Doesn't the military have to pay for their hormone treatments? Somebody correct me if I'm wrong

>>135108873
If they have a fake pussy then yes they have to do that while deployed. I can imagine this creates a problem in a survival situation.

>>135112636
Nope
People who are on hormoes must pay for them themselves

>>135112605
Yeah, I know. I moved to Vegas after highshcool and i was still itching my acting bug.

Guess what's a big show for little theaters to do here?

>>135112432
They need help, not rejection and this society is doing nothing to cure their mental illness

>>135112814
I live in Vegas also, nearly all the theater stuff is gay shit.

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>>135112248
srsly tho we can't let this guy get the tranny codes

>>135112976
good, let natural selection do its job

>have to pay for tranny drugs
>have to pay for tranny surgery
>have to pay for tranny surgery maintenance
>tranny is more likely to be or become mentally unstable (outside of general tranny-ness)
>absolutely no reason
Kill yourself faggot

>>135112976
Why does "society" owe them anything?
Your worth is what you give to society, not take. Let them die. I hate you weak pitiful people. A culture built around pity does not grow, it regresses into a cesspool.

>>135113008
I was almost a lib faggot until i moved out here from Georgia.

Fuck me I wanna go back.

>>135112814
Shit, im not even full on "KILL ALL GAYS" or anything, I actually know quite a few gays who just want to be left alone and dont give a fuck about LGBTQIAPIOLMNOP shit, and I actually love Hedwig, but listening to the lyrics, seeing the ending of the movie where he strips off his shell and just walks out of the club....

Its a straight up "this trans character is doing it ALL for attention, and he realizes that it got him no where and he strips off the facade."

The very ANTITHESIS of what "trans" means to the gay shit today.

And yet Neil Patrick Harris will win tonys and shit because hes an openly gay playing a tranny in a gay production of GAY.

When will they realize that they became the pets of liberals and sjws?

>>135113153
>No
>No
>No
>Depends on person; general pysc exams rule these out
>No
Kill yourself phaggo

>>135108406
THE MILITARY IS NOT A SOCIAL EXPERIMENT. Either deal with being your birth gender to join or don't bother.

>>135113280
Oh they know.
But it makes them pop culture famous.

>>135113421
>pop culture famous

Look at GaGa, Bowie and Reed.

Gaga is now a screaming harpy dressing as a nazi at clinton rallies where clinton is against...nazis....?

Bowies dead and the world is left ripping apart the meaning of blackstar and being afraid of what they find

Reed did a lot of heroin. A metric FUCKLOAD. And lived to a good age.

Steele tried to straighten up, quit drinking, ate better....

Fucking died.

Nice guys finish last. Nice goys get the left overs.

>>135113750
I just wanna space man.

>>135113750
Go back to t_D with that Reddit spacing

>>135108406
>absolutely no reason
They're mentally ill. In case you haven't considered it, having people who cut off their penises and pretend they're women in the military would be a recipe for pure disaster.

>>135108406
>the military
>which is a necessary evil
>where even mentally stable people fairly often crack under the pressure
>a place where cracking under the pressure can lead to the death of your fellow men

Even if you ignore the fact that a bunch of them would sign up exclusively to get their transition paid for by the military, there is no good reason to let them join.

>>135108406
no, you are pathetic for thinking a group of disabled retards are physically fit to be in our armed forces

>>135109411
>tfw I know people who make arguments like this and are not just baiting

Nothing more infuriating than some chucklefuck trying to debate you on a topic they very obviously know nothing about

>>135114087
Yet we have 15,000 transgendered people in the US military right now without a problem. This dumb talking point simply doesn't agree with reality.

>>135108406
Get out of here new fag.

>>135112976
Military isn't some daycare like liberal diploma camps. There's a place for the things you mentioned and the military is not it.

>>135109411
Jesus H Christ.. i cant believe you can vote..

>>135114353
I think your numbers may be a bit off.

>>135114353
>it's not a problem at this very moment so what's the bfd?

Let's combine two demographics (trannies and soldiers) with absurdly high suicide rates. What could go wrong

>>135112760
Wrong.

>>135114423
This.
The people advocating for this completely misunderstand what the purpose of the military is. It's a necessary evil, not something we have because you're having such a great time there but something we have because we need it to defend ourselves.

Take your social experiments to places where they don't ruin or end people's lives.

>>135108406
oh well it's not like they want to fight they just want to be a secretary to a colonel in some desk job. I still firmly believe if they still want in we can form a division specifically for them and they can be the first line of defense when the norks finally bork

>>135108406
>>135108406
shills gonna shill

it's a mental disorder with comparable rates of suicide with major depression, it is not really wise to give them access to any arms.


additional costs and complexity to procurement etc...
and many more

>>135114450
They might be. The Pentagon doesn't share those numbers, and they couldn't truly know for a fact how many there are even if they did.

>>135114593
Yes, what *could* go wrong? Because any disaster scenario you can come up with hasn't happened. Your position is purely based off of hypotheticals.

>>135108406
it's cost-effective

>>135112170
Don't worry my American friend, I'm flying back to Seattle in a week

>>135115253
THAT'S EVEN WORSE

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>>135108406
Easy. The military is about breaking things and hurting people. It is not a jobs program. It is an instrument of war. And while there are rear echelon positions, every member of the military must be able to pic up a rifle and fight. As such, the U.S. military has specific physical standards that must be met. There are also disqualifying conditions for joining the military. Persistent migraines. Major surgery prior to joining. Having been hospitalized for a major depressive episode. Hell, chronic asthma will do it. So, even disregarding any mental aspects, transgender people are asking to serve knowing that once they transition they are effectively rendered useless for any combat role. Surgery that would disqualify enlistment, chronic health problems brought on by dumping drugs and hormones into their system that it was never meant for and a lifetime of hormone and drug therapy that renders them useless for combat and burdens their fellow service members who have to pick up their slack. The military will often keep a member who has been wounded in combat, including someone who has actually suffered and amputation because they have shown a fighting spirit. This is not the same as someone who joins and then insists that the government pay for their surgery and hormone therapy. There is no benefit to the military or those who have to shoulder the extra burden they create by being there. But I think you know that.

>>135108406
>Your taxpayer money is literally funding the military to lop of dicks so mentally ill people can be in command of guns, bombs, fighter jets, carriers, and the country's nuclear arsenal
>Absolutely no reason

Even if you think you have infinite money do you really want these mentally challenged retards to be in charge of the country's arsenals and state secrets?

>be trans
>go into military
>ignore muh suicidal thoughts
>armymates make fun of me
>fucking cisgendered shitlords
>pass the physical because I'm special and I told the military I'd sue them for transphobia if they didn't let me in
>don't do basic training
>spend two hours a day dilating my new vagina
>go to sleep thinking about suicide
>end up being forced to do basic training
>ugh my body my rules
>fail it
>threaten to sue again
>pass it because transphobia is worse than the Holocaust
>go to war in Iraq
>ugh why are we fighting a war against innocent brown people
>realize that I signed up for the evil
>escape military base and run to my Islamic heroes
>I say that I want to join them to take down the evil white shitlords
>don't know what they said in their language but they seem to agree
>they tie my hands feministically and make me kneel down
>it's just their culture, I can not be a bigot to their customs
>white male bastards are taking aim at us
>I instruct my Islam comrades to take them down
>one of them forcefully pats my head with his fist
>such tolerance from these loving people
>I'm bleeding for some reason, obviously not from the pat.
>my comrades take out the white traitor bastards
>ready to live my life among the peaceful Islamic people
>the last thing I remember is their queen initiation ritual of courage, where they dragged a sharp knife across my neck repeatedly
>at least I'm not a drumpftard