>a helicopter hovering over a location will remain above that

>>135094826
Water always self levels you retard.

>>135094826
And to add no inertial frame of reference bullshit.

The earth cannot be an inertial reference frame as it cannot maintain a constant velocity by the virtue of it going around the sun in an ellipse according to heliocentric model.

>Buy baloon
>Buy helium
>Buy rope
>Buy camera
>Flat-earther no more.

wake the fuk up goyim ball earth is a freemason jew ruse

>>135095167
>there is no curvature in the oceans
NASA says otherwise

>>135094826
show us your flag cuck

goyim the freemason lodges are jew landing zones of power and the dumb asses in the lodges have NO CLUE they are fukkin their own family. Babylon mystery school, jew mafia

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>>135094826
>>a helicopter hovering over a location will remain above that location indefinitely
the air as well as the helicopter has something called momentum causing it to keep its velocity. the air further pushes the helicopter into the spinning directions. also the helicopter wont stay on the same spot because of the wind that hits it alone

>a plane flying from NYC to LA doesn't arrive any quicker than a plane flying from LA to NYC
again momentum, and also relativity. the plane starts with the same trajection the earth spins resulting in relatively the earth not moving at all from the perspective of the plane making the direction of travel irrelevant

>a plane cannot fly directly north from Mexico City at 800mph and use the 1000mph rotation of the earth to land in San Diego
again relativity. all speed is meassured in relation to the movement of the earths spinning. so a plane going 800km/h from a perspective outside the earth is just flying 800km/h faster or slower (depending on in which direction the plane flies) than the earth spins.

also nasa is fake as fuck by the way
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/128284595

and the earth hollow with nazis living either inside or in antarctica with flying saucers
>>133881235

>>135095618
Why do you think all references in surveying are relative to sea level?

Are you retarded?

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>>135095364
I tried that. Got to 121,000 ft and witnessed nothing.

>>135095822
>she thinks this is a rebuttal
You're two posts in and have thoroughly embarrassed yourself. Get out of my thread, moron.

>>135094826
>a plane flying from NYC to LA doesn't arrive any quicker than a plane flying from LA to NYC
What? You can easily check and see that flying from LA to NYC takes about 30mins less than NYC to LA.

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>>135095839
all those videos use fisheyelenses. wether they show flat earth or not. you see it easily when the camera swing up and down and suddenly you get inverted curvature there. watch the video again where you got that pic from.

It's completely flat? There aren't waves or anything?

earth is flat 200 proofs- dubay

>>135096305
fish eye create curvature retard
they dont make things flat

>>135096283
>earth rotates W to E
>W to E flights are quicker
How is that possible when the earth would be traveling 1000mph away from you? Thanks for debunking your own argument.

>>135095839
>cropped image
Martyr yourself.

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>>135096596
gosh damnit mother fuckers

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>>135096502
they curve things yes, but if you curve a curved line in the right way (the direct opposite) the curved line will become straight once again.

>>135094826

I see you, shill.

controlled opposition, attempting to discredit the whole of /pol/ and the conservative platform in general.

or you're trolling.

or genuinely stupid.

jew freemasonry run your town via lodge cops courts clergy. just look at the fukkin lodge website goyim. a fukkin jew from nyc or CA is your chief and mayor. wake the fukk up goyim

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ayyy lmao

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>>135096727
amatuer balloon all show flat earth and they prove they dont use any special lense

all nasa and ball earthers always use fish eye

youre a imbecile

>>135096694
if it is flat where is the rest of the earth?

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>still no arguments

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>>135096935
things get smaller the farther away

>>135097074

please

answer

>>135096935

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>>135094826
I tried to imagine why the helicoptor has its own bubble making its own law of physics

>>135097200

yeah, where is the rest of the land if it is flat, you should be able to see to the end of it far enough,

I can only see 1/100th here

where is the rest of the land hmm flat earther

>>135097200
in the picture you still see the end of the hall because it is not spherical

goyim,
yes earth is flat.
in your town jews run it via freemasonry lodge dupes. it goes back to Babylon mystery mason schools. they own the police clergy judge mayor, wake up goyim

>>135097074
Holy shit this retard is trying extra hard.

Youve heard of the horizon? Thats how everyone who isnt a mouth breathing nogger knows the earth is round, otherwise youd be able to see to the ends of the earth and the horizon would not get in Your way.

Also
>sage & reported for not politics

>>135097329
You haven't answered my question in OP or shown me curve yet.

>>135096827
Debunked.

The pylons are not set straight from point a to point b but curve to the left and then right again.

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>>135097492
if the hall is longer you wouldnt

>>135097329
no you shouldnt

>>135094826
>>135095274
Inertial frame of reference
It's not about the literal velocity and direction, it's about the relative change in said. When the plane sits on the tarmac in mexico city, it and san diego and the atmosphere through which it flies have the same relative change in position per second (1000mph due east). That doesn't change if the plane flies straight north, it has only changed it's velocity relative to MC, SD, and the atmosphere in the north-south axis. In an absolute sense, the plane is still moving at 1000mph due east, it's just that everything else is too so it's not obvious. In order to cancel that out, the plane would have to to exert energy equivalent to 1/2mv^2 + inefficiency due west.

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>>135097660
its debunked because it looks like ps1

>>135097524
You must be a nigger on account of your low IQ.

There is dust, moisture, pollution and the atmosphere in general that limits visibility. Also the human eye has a range limit as to how far it can see.

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>>135096931
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnzUgKZ8m2k
stop around 4:22, you see the earth curving the other way when the camera swing around

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ph6_4mbxgDg
1:44 you see the camera swing around a bit and see the earth gaining some slight curvature as well.

both supposed flat earth videos.

>>135097524
>sees evidence that there is 0 curvature at 190 miles
>hurr durr I'm not a nigger, I know you can't see past 2.9 miles
Fucking retard.

The low level freemasons have sold America out and they think they are so cool to be in their little club.

>>135094826
>>when a bullet is in flight for more than 1.5 seconds you have to compensate for the rotation of the earth or you'll miss your shot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=74&v=slD66ZIjggY
black science man explains

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>the horizon is 2.9 miles for an average height person
>can see a city skyline from 11 times farther away
Really makes me think

>>135094826
but why do we fly to the right to get to london,
fly to the left to get to japan
but the english fly to the right to get to japan

>>135097987
thats just the lighting and the angle

if flat earthers had some reverse fish eye lens which doesnt exist

then it still wouldnt look like that because theres no fucking end of the flatness

You can always tell when someone has no nautical experience.

Also riddle me this flatfucks, if the earth is flat, why do we not observe a horizontal component to gravity the farther you go from the center of the earth disc? The center of gravity of an object is the center of mass, which in a disc, is the center of the circle. The vector of the force exerted by gravitational attraction is toward the (displacement weighted) center of gravity. QED, the farther you got from the center of the disc, the more of the gravitational force vector would be in the horizontal axis. Therefore if the earth was flat, people in new zealand would be standing straight up relative to gravity at a noticeable angle relative to the surface of the earth

>>135097829
No it's quite literaly the literal velocity.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inertial_frame_of_reference

And then combine what you said with the Coriolis effect, the earth said to be spinning underneath the plane, the Earth then changing velocity on an elliptic.

Also to think about it the force of the constant acceleration and deceleration around the elliptic would tear the Earth apart because of the alleged gooey mantle.

>>135098403
How come we can fly around the world?

>>135096931
how does gps work?

>>135098403
Where was this photo taken from?

>>135096507
I never said it was due to the Earth's rotation, because it isn't.

>>135098474
it doesnt need a reverse fisheye lense. just a normal one with the right alignment. stuff above the the center will be curved upwards, beneath will be curved downwards. so if the line of horizon is beneath the center it will counter the earths curvature. than you just crop the footage a bit and make the center appear as it aligns with the horizon

>spheres
stars including the sun
planets includings one in other solars systems, not Earth though
moons including our own
asteroids and comets, pretty much the bigger they are the more sphere like they are

really get's your neurons firing family. why is the Earth the lone exception?? why hasn't Best Korea told us the truth?

>>135098565
Gravity is a pseudo force resultant from the laws of buoyancy and the aspect of density

Gravity was needed to give credence to the heliocentric model.

>>135098682
did you even read the wikipedia page you just linked me?

and the earth isn't spinning under the plane, the earth, the plane, and the air through which the plane flies all spin at the same rate

>>135098833
What is their agenda in pretending the Earth is round and why can we go around the world?

Flat Earthers should be removed.

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No really, all you have to do to prove flat-earthtards wrong is say one word.
No debate is even required.

The word? COMPASS

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>>135099052
So then the water must also be spinning at the same speed as the Earth?

Funny why hasn't it pooled at the equator caused by the spin? Why are there rivers that flow northward up the ball? Pic related.

If I'm ever in charge, flat earthers get gassed even before jews

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>>135098833
>just crop the footage

how about a 3 hour video then
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6QinYav-_Q

you actual ball KEK

>>135097074
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inversion_(meteorology)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novaya_Zemlya_effect
How will Op ever recover?

>>135099344
Nigger burgers like you won't know how to organize.

>>135094826
Magnetism is centric. Therefore the things magnitized in the magnetosphere will be at a constant within space.

Now...if we could manipulate magnetism to get away from traction.

So, we all agree that flat earthers get the rope on dotr?

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fucking ball shitters

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>>135099119
dude, im a hollow earther. but the reason would be that a flat earth pretty much requires god to function. a spherical earth can function without one resulting in (((them))) being able to push atheism and mateialism which is obviously their agenda regardless of the shape of the earth.

funfact: there are some hints in the bible that the earth might be hollow

>>135099439
Are you retarded? Ops image is in no way distorted like a mirage.

You need to climb a mountain and see for yourself.

>>135099451
If you criticize your enemies, they win.
Btw how is the 1 million non tracked immigrants a year going? Just a few more years before they double your population

flat earth is Jew/CIA disinfo
https://steemit.com/conspiracy/@psyopsx1000/flat-earth-cia-disinformation-campaign

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>>135099119
No reason we cant circle the flat earth

>>135099314
the water does spin at the same rate, and you're exactly right, earth does bulge at the equator, It's not a perfect sphere.

some rivers flow north because the force of gravity times the horizontal component of the normal force generated by the riverbed on the water is greater than the miniscule centripetal force

>>135099314
you realize at any given point on a spherical earth gravity will point straight down, right

and yes it's more complicated than that because the earth is a spheroid with non-uniform density

>>135094826
Okay earth is flat. Will you stfu and go somewhere else? Fucking wasting space here and wherever you are.

>>135099680
Not as bad as the 30-40 million you have. Burger land is so harsh that Somalis are escaping it and trying to come north here.

Must be retards like you that remind them of home.

>>135098801
Shanghai.

>>135099119
To make humans feel small and irrelevant and to (((disprove))) God.

dude. you dont realize how tiny we really are as a human being do you?

>>135099614
I personally don't believe in God. That's called the God of the gaps. You don't know why something is how it is therefore it supposedly must be God. If Earth isn't a sphere then I'm sure there's a real explanation for what if actually is. It's possible we're wrong. We know so little. There's an infinite amount we have yet to discover and we will die before having discovered even a tiny fraction of what is out there. Humans and life on Earth in general could evolve for millions or even billions of years into the future. Or life could cease entirely.

Reminder to sage flat earth threads

>>135099960
humans are irrelevant if there is a god

>>135099616
I live in Anchorage you creampie eater. The only time McKinley (fuck chugs) is visible is when there is a temperature inversion

>>135097074
>nigger, Not Hiltop Ski Area. Flat Top Mountain viewing area left side of parking lot upon entering the park. 2000' elevation

Anchorage Fag Confirmation, grew up on the 'hillside'

>>135100091
How do you figure that?

>>135099704
Why is it that the sun and moon are round and not the Earth then?

>>135099760
Exactly.

So then how does water from Lake Ontario flow into Atlantic? It literally needs to climb thousands of meters of curvature.

Water does not behave that way.

>>135100234
>So then how does water from Lake Ontario flow into Atlantic? It literally needs to climb thousands of meters of curvature.

Jesus christ

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>>135099356
i dont call that flat anon

>>135100091
are you kidding me thats literally the only thing that would make us relevant

>>135097897
I can see the milky way at night, nigger. Is that beyond the "range limit"?

>>135099314
It does pool up at the equator, the earth is slightly squished because of the rotation. I.e. If you dug from one side of the equator straight down it would take you longer to reach the other side of the earth than if you did it at the poles.

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>>135100072
oh ya these people are just wrong
these people putting on a harness and putting cgi floating objects are just wrong about space

thats all it is

maybe we need to adjust our theories

>>135100419
Relevance is subjective. We're relevant to ourselves.

>>135099759
The bulge is absolutely minuscule. 26 miles compared to 7900 mile diameter.

And that's allegedly due to mantle bulging. Not the oceans coalescing at centre of gravity on a spinning ball.

Also water cannot bulge due to curve. It's a fluid.

>>135098565
Most flatfucks probably imagine gravity as a cylinder of force pulling/pressing things downwards into the disk. Not as a force exerted by all objects on all objects, but closer to something like air pressure or a river's current.

>>135100397
if you actually watch the video and skip around thats objectively not what you see

you can play with the angle all you want

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flat earth is honestly one of the worst memes to be made.

Flat cucks plz explain this

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/QFA28

It's not flat nor it is spherical. Earth is a line

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>>135100751
if the earth is flat, and the camera doesnt distort the view it shouldnt matter at which point i pause as the earth would always appear flat no matter what. it being not flat in that moment means that either the world isnt flat, or the camera distorts the view and thus is useless as proof for the shape of the earth. you decide which it is :^)

>>135100857
still doesnt go over antarctica

if it does get close enough to antarctica then that would be one of the only flights you could see the ice wall

but the over whelming majority you cant because its meant to hide it

>>135101002
do me a favor look at the top of your computer monitor then tilt your head

OMG ITS CURVED

>>135100636
I mean it's possible but what is the point of it all? Just a show they put on for the world? It's spooky but idk. I mean it could be a Hollywood thing. "Space is the final frontier and it's made in a Hollywood basement." I mean how would you actually go about exposing it all as fake? Have you gone to a shuttle launch?

>explain an obvious concept
>you can't use the typical proofs like reference frames or curved horizons

Okay, well how the GPS system on your phone, mainly the special relativity corrections it requires due to the time dilation from slower clock, orbiting transmitters.

0/10 , here's a You. Absolutely shit thread, mods should prune this.

>>135101005
The flight time means the earth is round, if it was flat it should take twice as long.

>>135100355
It's true. The st Lawrence river is the outflow from the Great Lakes basin into the Atlantic.

Can't happen on a ball earth. Defies reason.

>>135101156
no it's a tilted straight line you cuck

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>>135101156
not really...

>>135094826
okay here is an even harder mode for a retard like you.

How does plantes form and why are they always spherical. What is astronomy? Gravitational waves are a thing why havent you taken your head out of your ass yet?

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>>135101176
to hide god

Revelation 12:9
And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

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>>135101308
>>135101424
you guys are right

>pic

My dad flew for QANTAS as a pilot, from Sydney to Johannesburg and flat earthers say that this QF flight doesn't exist as it doesn't match up with their theories. I went on this flight. Many times. So up your arse cucks. The earth's round. Get out of the dark age.

>>135101524
this works because you only see the top of the island, not the rest

>>135098801
its the city on the other side of lake michigan if i remember correctly, the photos taken from the shore on the other side, like 200 miles or somtin. chicago? mineapolis? st louis? who knows

>>135101197
The gps system assumes a stationary plane.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth-centered_inertial

>>135100851
it would go away if people stopped taking the bait.

>>135099601
>uses km instead of miles when it is 8" per mile squared
That alone will show that the mountain will indeed be visible, nevermind the fact that it didn't account for height of the photographer.

>>135101545
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/QFA63

>>135101482
I'm just curious roach. Since you roaches seem to hate whites with a burning passion how can you even respect something such as astronomy which was revolutionized by whites?

>>135101005

what kind of retard would fly over Antarctica? if you suffer any catastrophic failure you're fucked.

there's a reason why airplanes spend as little time as possible over oceans, and why they were only just recently (30 years ago but still) allowed to fly transatlantic and transpacific flights. people want to get FROM land TO land ASAP.

>>135094826
OP is literally too fucking stupid even to know that 22 miles is 0.088% of the circumference of the earth, which means the total tilt from one end to the other would be just 0.3 degrees, utterly invisible to the human eye.
And this faggot it here to "school" us.

Flat-earthers should be dragged out and shot in the head. It's a total cult of scientifically illiterate dumbfucks that don't understand the explanations they constantly demand when we offer them. Tires of these moth-breathing cretins.

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>>135094826
Do you flat earthers get you physics education from the road runner cartoon?

still don't see why there's a huge argument. we all know the government isn't the most truthful entity, but what incentive is there to lie about a flat earth. maybe 1 person on /pol/ works in astronomy or astrophysics so it doesn't apply to any of you. please, someone, explain why this is important

>>135100117
Fellow Anchorage fag see this niggers post. (ID: 5tEbnBUW) JH 07/26/17(Wed)20:22:55 No.135097074

>>135101738

Technically you can go over the ocean with 4 engines and not be within 3 hours of an airport. That's only recent thought.

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>>135101617
go test it yourself
go outside take pictures of things that shouldnt be there

mc fucking kill yourself

>>135101741
This literally falling for a 14th century meme

>>135098565
The earth is really like a Bosu ball. The atmosphere on top of the flat surface makes the earth appear round. Thus images become distorted when taken from outer space like a fish lens projecting what is within outwards. Very complex stuff

>>135094826
>what is air
You can literally look up school air balloon videos that prove the earth is round.
Here's one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZydHQspzJw
This is not a hard concept, goat fucker.

>>135101524
can be explained with atmospheric lensing. the atmosphere bends the light effectively creating the effect like asphalt on a hot day making it seem like the ground is rising a bit, only through the distance the effect is stronger rising it above the horizon just with less distortion as the atmosphere isnt flickering as much.
>inb4 it says no mirage because sun is behind it
if the lightrays are bend around it automatically means the same goes for shadows where the areas where those mountains/islands block the sun

>>135098403
thats a fucking picture of toronto from the toronto islands you fucking mongoloid

>>135101896
from 3650 feet you should see the skyline.

Like it's been stated, if the earth was flat, our airline flight times would be radically different.

>>135099152
That looks nice.

How do you describe the celestial sphere in a flat earth geometry?

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>>135101985
is this atmospheric distortion goyim

>>135099699
flat earth being a cia psyop is a cia psyop in itself
double bluff

>>135101948
why can we only see the top half of sears tower?

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>>135101887

funny enough 4 engine planes were originally designed for trans oceanic flights, at the cost of efficiency and cost. airlines have been switching back to two engine planes because they're cheaper and more efficient.

>>135101953
>complex
>able to be comprehended by a leaf

Pick one

>>135094826
why is every thread about flat earth retarded nigger tier thinking? is it comforting to believe that the world is this small?

How tf could the earth even be flat. You couldn't fly a plane from California to Japan if the Earth was flat. Yet planes fly from California to Japan everyday.

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>>135102073
maybe. allegedly the same happens when you use a telescope that is out of focus. i cant tell though since i dont have one

>>135097680
You're proving yourself wrong and you're too stupid to realize.

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>>135102077
those buildings should be thousands of feet below

its called perspective the water blocks part of it

>>135102022
There would also be 6 goriilion litres of ocean falling off the sides and into outer space

>>135101983

those videos use fisheye lenses and thus they show a little too exaggerated curvature. the curvature in the vid thumbnail makes it look like you're 1000km above the earth's surface. the earth should look much less curved at the altitude most balloons fly at.

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you can clearly see the curve conceals the bottom of the buildings.

>>135102328
fata morgana

>>135101276
it doesn't climb, you cuck.
"up", "down" and thus the direction of gravity are not absolute constants. they are relative to the centre of the earth.
Things get pulled towards the centre of the earth by gravity. The ocean is closer to the centre of the earth than the lakes, so it flows there.

Do you not understand derivatives and relative perspectives?

>Board for politics.
>This joke is up for more than an hour.
>Has nothing to do with politics.
>Mods allow it.
>Retards bump it.

I give up. Why even sage when you know some retard is going to perpetually bump it and mods don't DO THEIR FUCKING JOB.

FUCKING AMAZING!

>>135102290
the bottom photo was clearly not taken from a camera on the floor.

>>135101948

> what is a mirage

a mirage is the bending of light caused by the earth's atmosphere. the sun's light bends just like the Skyline's.

>>135094826
>Be OP
>Board airline flight
>Jump in the aisle during flight
>Slam into the back of the cabin at 400mph

>>135094826
Gravity
it's a simple concept that explains all of your questions

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>>135102435
is this a mirage goyim

>>135094826
Koran says it's egged shaped. My sure the Bible says the same thing. Flat earth was made up by (((catholics)))

>>135102395
upset that you may have been right-side-up this entire time?

>>135101735
I do not hate the whites with a burning passion that would be hypocrisy. Why wouldnt I respect astronomy , a science that presents truth and objectivity.

>>135102328
No the water level just gives you that perception.

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>>135102508
nope bible has been flat earth since before time

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>>135102444
checked

>>135094826

The atmosphere rotates with the planet retard

And you do have to adjust your shots. Anybody who's shot knows this

>>135101668
Worst part is this shit isn't even new. Redditfags are truly toxic.

>>135098819
The trade winds are due to earth's rotation, and thus responsible for the quicker flight to NYC.

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>>135094826
Why do you think air speed and IAS are two separate measures that both measure speed?

Okay so now that we know the earth is flat, we need to deal with the next question.

Why did they lie to us? What did they gain?

>>135102605
why does it only take 14 hours to get from south america to australia?

>>135094826
the atmosphere turns with the earth, for the most part

>>135094826
Nice false flag, Shlomo.

>>135100224
Theres no evidence that the sun and moon are balls.

Oh shove it up your ass you ignorant cunt

>>135102598
are you saying the water somehow comes inbetween the path from the camera to the bottom of the buildings?

oh my, that's a curve

>>135102605
>What is poetic language

Just a hallmark of the language those verses were written in

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>>135100224
>0224 ▶>>135102791
>>>135099704

>>135102655
>the atmosphere rotates with the earth
>helicopters and planes rotate with the atmosphere
>bullets don't
What makes bullets exempt from the laws of physics?

>>135102552
Well many of your people certainly do from what I've seen.

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>>135102073

I've seen these "look at what stars really are" videos floating around youtube. it is literally easier to believe that the earth is flat than to believe this dumb shit. this is literally just an out of focus star. anybody who has ever owned a telescope will tell you this. atmospheric distortion plays a major role in what you see when zoomed in at 400x.
also i can tell you that the reason the star looks like this is because the footage was filmed on a Schmidt Cassegrain telescope, that has a large circular mirror on the front that blocks out the light.

>>135102756
how are you typing upside down?

>>135099356
Pretty sure youre seeing a shadow not the actual mountains

>>135095839
No you didn't. You just took a cropped image from a shitty yt video, and actually we can see the curvature even tough it's cropped.
Also if the earth is flat, where is the limit of the earth disc? In the middle of Pacific? But you can buy a plane ticket from Asia to USA withtout flying under the disc or all over europe. How do you explain that?

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>>135102862
ok, explain these 2 for me:
1. the stars on the northern hemisphere are different stars than those on the southern hemisphere.
b) The sun which is brighter than the stars, and closer to me than the stars behind from the sun dissappeared behind the horizon because it got "too far away", would dissappear because its too far away, but the stars behind it which are much dimmer and further away are still visible then for some reason (pic related)"

>>135094826
>>a plane cannot fly directly north from Mexico City at 800mph and use the 1000mph rotation of the earth to land in San Diego
This convinced me. Not the landing in san diego part because there would be nothing to reduce inertia. But what if you flew over the north pole? Suddenly the world is rotating in the opposite direction. But you aren't torn apart or shot into space. Nothing happens. Not saying it is flat but there is definitely more to this than we are being told.

>>135101839
Im on your team, but your post quote is brother francis tier...

>>135102862
>It's a conspiracy
No it's just something between the moon and the viewer dipshit

>>135102862
>broad daylight
>few tiny pixels
>HURR IT'S A STAR
it's an airplane

>>135102494

believe it or not, that quite literally is a mirage. stars look like that when you zoom in on them really hard. it's caused by atmospheric distortion.

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>>135102971
you cant see the whole firmament from one place

your eyes have a maximum distance

>>135102978
that's not how it works. The rotation doesn't affect airplanes, or anything in the atmosphere. We are all already moving at the same speed, including the atmosphere, it isn't a vacuum.

>>135102892
Its complicated over here, I would hate us if I were in your shoes tbqh. Not like self-hating but with the current state of the nation it is what it is.

>>135102756
>this is what your post should look like if the earth is not flat

¿uiɐƃ ʎǝɥʇ pip ʇɐɥM ¿sn oʇ ǝil ʎǝɥʇ pip ʎɥM

˙uoiʇsǝnb ʇxǝu ǝɥʇ ɥʇiʍ lɐǝp oʇ pǝǝu ǝʍ 'ʇɐlɟ si ɥʇɹɐǝ ǝɥʇ ʍouʞ ǝʍ ʇɐɥʇ ʍou os ʎɐʞO

>>135103104
yet i see the stars on the other side of the earth quite well

>>135103137
>bullets are affected
Are they not in the atmosphere?

>>135102877

They aren't an exception. If you've ever been in a plane in your entire life you would know flying against the spin of the Earth adds about an hour to a medium distance flight compared to flying with the rotation of the Earth because the winds are with you

>all these yous for such shitty bait

fuck off /pol/

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>>135098728
because its still a circle.

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>>135103041
no those are in focus stars you can zoom in on with a camera and you can zoom in on the planets which are suppodely a lot farther than the maximum zoom on the damn camera even goes!

its not possible to zoom in on these things if theyre millions of miles away lol

>>135103104
funny that real life IS closer to the second if you would go further than just a single night.
if you point your camera at the exact same direction up in the sky, the north star will move over a timespan of weeks or months.
every single star does this which is how we see completely different parts of the night sky in different seasons, yet each year is the same.

>>135103305
how are bullets affected? They aren't.

>>135103307
literally nothing to do with the rotation, only the wind. Some days there is no wind and the times are flat.

>>135103104

>Your eyes have a maximum distance
>Literally seeing light from an object from across the galaxy
>But some are too far on one part of the earth

Are you drunk?

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>>135094826
>It's a Flat Earther doesn't know that the earth is big episode

>>135097582
who knew the world is so big that your balloon doesnt get high enough to see the curve jackAss

>>135103305
Lol this. Sphere cucks constantly embarrassing themselves. On par with Christcucks now.

>>135103364

it is atmospheric distortion. it is easy to deduce this by yourself.

>>135102279
Look you are not really making arguments. I will make one for you. The curvature of the earth is 8 inches over 1 mile. Therefore if we have a canal constructed over a True Level Datum (not using earths curvature in architecture) that is at least 1 mile long, the water should bulge 8 inches tall in the middle. There are several such canals in existence.

Now you can repeat this test looking for 2 inches over a quarter mile indoor pool, with a laser, and the water will be perfectly flat. "Water always finds it's level" is not an argument, because the water's subjective 'level' is relative to the direction of gravity, so water will always curve no matter what IF the earth is a ball.

So ... here's my claim: if we do these tests and we cannot find the curvature, it only means that the earth is far larger than we calculated. Lack of curvture does not directly mean the earth is flat, only that the curve is much more shallow than we calculated. Im not going to fight over these tests because the community has gone far beyond that and it's well known the curvature isn't there. My claim is that the lack of witnessed curvature means the earth is gigantic.

>>135102877
moving object in a north/south or up/down direction (air, helicopters, and bullets) experience the Coriolis effect. Velocity is conserved. If you launch a rocket straight up, and go straight down, you'll land west of the launch site because the earth turns underneath it. If you head north, the surface velocity decreases, which means you'll end up drifting rightward (towards the east).

And the rockets we launch into space all launch east to take advantage of the rotation of the earth. But you probably already think every single nation that's launched, every single corporation that has launched or bought a satellite is in the global anti-flat earth conspiracy

>>135102258
How do you figure that?

>>135103477
>Some days there is no wind
NA education at its finest
"hurr I feel no strong wind in the few metres around me, therefore all the air in the entire world must be stopped"

>>135103181
Maybe I would hate you if I were German. I am German American. You people are just flooding Germany. So I don't love that. But at the same token I respect Turkish people more than fucking niggers. You have an impressive history. I am not a complete white supremacist that I couldn't recognize that. I believe in the Caucasian race which spans from Europe through the Middle East to India and it's the greatest race with the most accomplishments.

pls debunk

>>135096931
You realize that there is a visible curvature along the horizon in that video... right?

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>>135103723
pic related

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>>135102395

>That feel when you remember proto-/pol/ boards like /new/ drew the crazies away from other boards and condensed them into one place
>That feel when /new/ was eliminated for /pol/-type faggotry.
>That feel when you realize that once /new/ wasn't here, the people from /new/ spilled out onto all the other boards, shitting them up in the process.
>That feel when you realize that /pol/ was created as a containment board for insane people.

>>135103705
um, sometimes there is a 130 mph tailwind, some days it's 20. Depending on weather, attitude, etc.

>>135102978
The atmosphere is part of the spin anon....

>>135102978
Look up frame of reference. You are spinning with the earth when you take off. The earth is round, don't buy into the bullshit. Measures shadows from tall builds at different times of the day and you will see the shadows are not parallel. This could only happen on a round earth. They have known for years the earth is round. Don't believe this flattard.

>>135103663

on smaller scales, it is really hard to measure the curvature of the earth what with ripples in the water and such.

>>135094826
I can't believe my taxes goes towards the medication you're not taking.

>>135102446
Gravity is a theory.

>>135098735
LORAN

>>135103588
why would they go up on a ball earth ever? they are stones that burn in the atmosphere while falling towards the earth. them going upwards doesnt make sense on a sperical earth either. also why would i see a new set of stars every day when we are spinning? the stars arent changing so we come around the very same stars every time

>>135094826
1 - The atmosphere rotates with the earth.
2 - The coriolis effect, affect planes and bullets.
3 - you're a fucking moron

anyone who shills flat earth is an sjw trying to pretend the right is indeed a collection of mouthbreathing idiots. I'm already coming across articles in the liberal media amplifying this angle.

anyone arguing seriously with flat-earthers on /pol/ is an irredeemable moron or autistic as fuck. do it in private if you must. ostracize them. don't give them the publicity. they don't care about the facts, they care about creating the impression that people here are primitives. and let me tell you, they are succeeding.

>>135098403
Light curves more when travelling over water dickhead

>>135099314
Gravity.

Also, it DOES pool at the equator, but only slightly in comparison.

something interesting. We observe the sun moving through the sky at a constant arc per second.

however, in the sky of the flat earth, this would not be the case. The sun's apparent velocity through the sky would be proportional to it's distance from you. Meaning that it would be sprinting through the sky much faster around midday, and go very very slowly at sunrise and sunset

>>135103889

you can clearly see Canada. and it's not underwater.

>>135103588
at night you are by definition on the opposite side of the globe relative to the sun. this means that by definition, you can only see stars on the opposite side of the earth relative to the sun.

the earth takes a full year to rotate around the sun, therefore the changes in the night sky are not noticeable by the human eye from one night to the next. There are literally cosmic proportions and you're trying to notice miniscule changes after just one day with your bare eyes. typical NA tard.

>>135094826
>hurrr durrr 22 miles vs 23,000km circumference
Flag checks out

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When did pol start believing the Jews at NASA?

>trust your senses
>it's flat and motionless

>>135103554
This

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>>135103965

the earth is ROUNd but the SUN is FLAT (tiranglular)

>>135100234
>climb curvature

You know there is no "up" or "down" when dealing with a curve in the macro scale like this, right?

>>135102710
You mean the Jet Stream? Has zero to do with rotation no one on earth claims that.

>>135101953
t. High school dropout

>>135103946
The average liberal doesn't understand enough about astronomy and geology to be able to debunk the Flat Earth Theory. How could they when they major in liberals arts and psychology?

Here's something interesting for you to think about flat earthers. If the earth is a "flat circle" like you say, then the distance from say, the southern tip of South America to say, Western Australia should be something like 20 times larger than the distance from Maine to Hong Kong. But it isn't. Because the earth isn't flat. Because this is a troll thread.

>>135104041
if the earth is spinning throughout the night the stars would still be moving enormously within that 12 hours

you could see them flying across to the other side of the world

but nope the sky turns dark and the stars stay in the same spot

>>135099152
the source of light is the atmosphere, not the sun directly. the light is refracted causing the illusion of the sun being directly above the clouds, as that is the source of visible light on earth. it's the same reason the sunset is red, because the red wavelength is the least effected by refraction so the rest of the light spectrum is already refracted down over the horizon where we can't see it.

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Why bother arguing with these retards? They reject science and can't into mathematics. A waste of everyone's time. Saged

>>135103946
And anyway what does this bizarre theory have to do with politics? Niggers believe in all sorts of retarded shit and people still respect their political opinion and allow them to vote.

>>135103935
The coriolis effect doesn't affect planes. You ever here of pilots try landing on a runway that's moving at 1000mph? no.

>>135104056
>why stick a thing up a pole instead of launching a million dollar satellite
something tells me you're not that good with money

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Did you know that you can predict the tides using the Moon?

When the Moon is high in the sky, it's high tide. When the Moon is at the horizon, it's low tide. During a New and Full Moon, the tides are much more extreme. During the Half Moon's, the tides are much more subdued.

Two tides per day. How does this make sense on a flat earth?

>>135104227
in other words if the earth was flat then the sunset wouldn't change colors. you can test this with a flashlight and a prism on a basketball or something round.

>>135103946
No one here is shilling. Go research and actually listen

>>135103701
They don't have the range. You'd have to fly across the entire world. US Europe Asia then finally Japan.

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>>135104056
>satellites
because there is a 400ms delay of information relay in and out of the atmosphere. Not so with tertiary towers nitwit. Pro tip, stay in school.

>>135103808
Ayy my dad shot at that thing during the rampage, needed a reason to use his 6 shooter.

>>135104077
2015 is a composite from a satellite
In this composite image we see Earth appear to rise over the lunar horizon from the viewpoint of the spacecraft, with the center of the Earth just off the coast of Liberia (at 4.04 degrees North, 12.44 degrees West).
https://www.nasa.gov/image-feature/goddard/lro-earthrise-2015

1968 was a complete picture taken on the moon

>>135095839
It curves, but not how we think it should.

>>135104226
>if the earth is spinning throughout the night the stars would still be moving enormously
they do?
have you actually never looked at the night sky before? you can see the stars move out of sight below the horizon as time goes by, it just takes a few hours to do this.

NA common sense is such a joke

>>135104056
What's easier, launching a satellite or building a really tall radio tower?

>>135104299
Seems like a waste of money to build one of those when we already have thousands of satellites

>>135104295
Could gravity reduce the Coriolis effect when a plane is near the ground perhaps?

I have a question
Why do people care so much about this?
Is there anything that would actually change if the Earth is somehow flat and not a globe? What difference does it make
I'm genuinely wondering

>there are still people in current year who believe the earth is flat despite airplanes, satelites, modern navigational instruments, telescopes, mathematics, and a million other sources of contradiction.

Lmao.

>>135094826
if the earth is flat then why do we have mountains and valleys?

>>135104153
this is beside the point, though. the point is that here is a consensus view with the worst possible connotations for anyone opposing it and they (extra parentheses removed) successfully frame us as people who consider opposing it. it would not matter if the consensus view was even wrong and flat-earthers were right and oppressed, because the appearance such discussions create would be the same. also, ask yourself: what the fuck does this have to do with /pol/? it belongs to /b/.

>>135104226
wut? are you serious? the stars move positions the whole time. hell, even on the flat earth model the stars are moving god damn

>>135094826

Does gravity (as in, everything with mass gravitates towards each other) exists as a natural phenomenon in the universe?

>>135104516
Yes, so this is a lesson to you. People are basically stupid, they'll believe anything

>>135104095
The poles are cold, the center is hot.

The flow of these winds are north/south. The jetstream is towards the northeast. The eastern wind is caused by wind moving northward retaining it's surface velocity and moving to a slower rotating part of the planet

#1 how do the poles experience a few months without daylight without axial tilt
#2 on a flat earth, all sunlight would be distributed equally. Temperature could not be based on latitude. On a curved earth, the higher latitudes would be colder because more square feet of the surface see the same one square foot of solar energy, making the poles colder.

>>135104507
Why wouldn't it do the same for a bullit?

But no, it wouldn't

>>135104511
They don't. It's one faggot who spends hours spamming /pol/ with his shit. He does the no planes on 9/11 threads too.

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>>135104418
>1968 was a complete picture taken on the moon

pic

>>135104467
they go in circles though around polaris
really makes you think

if it was a ball they would all go the same direction off the screen

>>135104572
Yeah and blacks think there were giants in ancient Egypt.

>>135104587
Sure it does
The Gravitational Constant was first measured by Henry Cavendish in 1797. Using steel balls

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavendish_experiment

>>135102984
Benis, I agree.

I have been thinking about a targeted flyer attack based of the BFS scurge. The native corps must GIBB for dem' programs

>>135104366
>Go research and actually listen
can't decide if sjw or troll imitating their style. either way, shut the fuck up.

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>>135103554

>>135104511
Flat Earth would mean no Big Bang, no evolution, give proof that there is a God.

>>135104418
>the moon landing wasn't a hoax
Oh boy

>>135104686
The resolution on the second one is bad? Use a better camera lol. If the ball was as big as earth a normal camera will pick up the details.

>>135104616
Just because the earth is flat doesn't mean it doesn't tilt/swivel as it's moving upwards at 9.8m/s^2

>>135103705
>NA education at its finest
Hey don't blame us for these retards. We find them just as irritating as you do.

>>135104479
>satellites are allmighty machines that can already do every thing that everyone wants
imagine you want to broadcast your own radio transmission. how are you going to use some else's satellites for that? you don't have any satellites up there and so you'll just have to stick an antenna up a pole

I don't care if the earth is flat as long as there is a gf there waiting for me on this gay flat earth.

Why would any sufficiently massive object be flat and not spherical when gravity literally forces things into spherical shapes? I guess all of modern physics is wrong because some retarded literal flat earther on pol said so, despite said physics being empirically validated and used on a daily basis to make the telecommunications network possible that said flat earther uses to shitpost with.

>>135103721
Hey look, the newest edition of "I don't understand that the earth is big" has just come out.

>>135103946
Do a laser level test on open water. 8 inches of bulge over 1 mile does not exist. That's the fucking problem, the curvature is shallow. It falls short of what's calculated. The trick is to realize that these tests only imply the earth may be larger than we thought, not that it's flat. See, you assume these curvature tests are being administered improperly. They are not. The curvature really isn't there, and as soon as a person witnesses these test results for themselves they begin questioning everything and acting crazy.

But their response to said test results does not change the results. Their behavior doesn't change anything. For me it was when i brought my telescope to cape neddick in Maine and used it to watch ships disappear in the horizon. The problem was, when you looked through the scope you saw the bottom half of the ship. Even though it left the marina 4 hours ago, and is 30 miles away.

That shit changes you forever, and unfortunately for you thousands of people are doing this every day. It is going viral, and nothing can stop it.

>>135104686
I see a curve on the basketball close up

>>135104743
>evolution relies on the earth being round

Fossils my dude.

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>>135094826
The Earth curves at approximately 8 inches per mile. That's 176 inches (4.5 m) from one side to the other side of the lake.
On a distance of 22 miles (35 km) that's not noticable with the naked eye.

>>135104572
>caring about /pol/s reputation
we are seens as a bunch of autistic nazi frog worshippers that masturbate to underage anime girls. flatearth wouldnt even matter. and either its irrelevant because what makes /pol/ "powerfull" isnt its reputation, but specifically the lack thereoff as that means we have to try extra hard to come up with content and infos to be believed which in turn are pretty much irrefutable.

>what the fuck does this have to do with /pol/?
the government engaging in a huge conspiracy involving science, spaceagencies and a lot more is politics. more so than "niggahate thread" or "is x white?"

>>135104779
Just used a stock image, you still got the point.

>>135097680
The horizon, like this post says on the top, is a point of convergence. What it doesn't measure is the fact that the horizon also is where you cannot see anything further than that point. At sea level, it's about 5-8 km, or 3-4.5 miles. The higher you get, the farther the horizon gets due to the light from farther objects being able to reach you. The horizon is always flat, due to it actually being a circle at eye level, and the ground and sky meet there. I'm not posting sources, due to me remembering this from a few months ago.

>>135104572
Most people on here no little or nothing about this subject. It's irrelevant to politics. And we aren't agreeing with him we're just listening to what he has to say.

>>135104882
depending on the zoom of the camera, the earth will appear larger or smaller

This is true for any background object in photography. If you are close and zoomed out, the background will look further away. If you are far and zoomed in, the background will look large and magnified

>>135104707
They've brainwashed you nice and good. You'll come around eventually

>>135103714
Turkey is pre-Renaissance Europe in a sense. People are overly bound to religion and their self proclaimed god king. It will pass eventually and water will find its way like it always does, however history is a teacher that we should learn best from not to do the same mistakes that have been done by other people. A lot of people may say that Islam is 500 years younger than Christianity and there will be a day when Islam also prunes itself. This may be true but we don't have to suffer the same shit (actually even worse assuming that the world we live in righr know is civilized and all of human knowladge is in our fucking fingertips) twice. In spite of all this people see this as a natural occurence and disagree to intervene and for once stop the madness before too late.

>>135104930
her cheek bones are ridiculous

>>135104936
Cause earth is even smoother than this generic basketball.

>>135104679
>if it was a ball they would all go the same direction off the screen
so you're saying that every single part of a ball is moving simultaneously at the same speed when it rotates? then how can you spin a ball on your finger without it rolling off? there's an axis of rotation where the ball will not move during the rotation. this axis of rotation for the earth is aligned with polaris, which is why earth's rotation does not cause polaris to move.

try using your brain for once, fattie

>>135094826
>>135094826
>>a helicopter hovering over a location will remain above that location indefinitely
Because its relative velocity to the surface of the earth is 0
>>a plane flying from NYC to LA doesn't arrive any quicker than a plane flying from LA to NYC
Yes and no. A plane can only change its relative velocity as much as its engines can push it. And it also can make a faster trip if riding on the jetstream.
>>a plane cannot fly directly north from Mexico City at 800mph and use the 1000mph rotation of the earth to land in San Diego
Its east-west velocity is still 0 relative to the earth.
>>when a bullet is in flight for more than 1.5 seconds you have to compensate for the rotation of the earth or you'll miss your shot
This is kind of true because a bullet is not self correcting and over X miles, the tiniest hair off will make you miss by meters.

>>135104882
exposure time.

the exposure time for taking pictures of close celestials is very short; not enough time to have your silicon react to the very few photons that hit compared to the tidal wave of light that is reflected off of planets.

the eye works the similar to a camera, and that's why you can't see any stars but the sun during the daytime, and it's why the moon during the day looks significantly dimmer

>>135104936
>>135105057
Also scale is very approximative between the two images.

>>135094826
>lets talk about science
>Hard mode: but you can't use science

Try harder next time to be legit edgy with ur 2cool4school shit conspiracy.

>Fucking soap bubbles, how do they work?

>>135104679
So if all the stars are going in circles around polaris, how do the stars in the southern sky move?

Flat Earthers lie in their beds at night and tell themselves "The Earth is flat" and then have comfy thoughts of being the flat earth messiah that reveals the truth to everyone.

>>135094826
You do understand that you thinking is flawed. Based on your assumption if you toss a coin in a moving car it will hit the back window. The atmosphere is "attached" to the earth and moving at the surface speed because fluid has mass and there is a boundary layer. This is a closed system so to speak. Go study fluid dynamics and get back to me. You can't fake an entire provable discipline of science.

>>135101653
>toronto skyline
>lake michigan

Nigga what? It's just New York state, around Buffalo probably.
>>135098801

>>135105048
Their are benefits to your religion though even if it is a bunch of bunk. Look at how whites are suffering now that Christianity is gone. We suffered under it too but this is a different kind of suffering. Our birthrates were always high under Christianity. Now we are dying.

>>135105230
>can't go in circles if there is no Polaris

>>135104882
>where are the stars
they are in the black part of the photo but their light is too weak compared to the sunlight on the earth. the camera will not pick up their light.
do you also believe the stars disappear during the day? they are there but not bright enough to see next to sunlight

>>135104922
They tell us we can see ships go over the curvature of the ball but we can clearly measure there is zero curvature with lasers and other experiments.

>>135105279
I wonder if they cum into their bed sheets or just a sock

>>135105317
No, I mean think about it. In the southern sky, we see the stars going in circles around the south axial pole. But how would this work in the flat earth model?