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Transgenders should be allowed in the military. Any American

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Transgenders should be allowed in the military. Any American who loves this country should be allowed to join the military and fight for our country. What Trump is doing is discriminating people for no reason and anti-American.
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>>135091016
>Any American who loves this country should be allowed to join the military and fight for our country
"no"
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>people
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I have flat feet

Impeach now
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>>135091016
People with mental illness should not be allowed in the military
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>>135091016
Mutilated penis.
Mentally ill.
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>>135091016
Remember to report this thread. There are multiple threads up on this subject, and op is just looking for (You)'s
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>>135091016
>rainbow tape = lgbt
>soldier silenced by the rainbow tape
really made me think
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>>135091016
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Anybody this confused about their own life, shouldn't be in the business of taking the lives of others.
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>>135091289
youll get to join a club, dont worry
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>>135091016
Saying "I love my country" isn't enough. You have to be able to kill for your country as well.

And by kill I mean somebody other than yourself.
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>>135091603
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>>135091016
>Any American who loves this country should be allowed to join the military and fight for our country

Should schizophrenics be allowed to join?
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>>135091436
>that comments section
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>>135091016
A male taking estrogen is not only physically weaker than his opponent, but is also less emotionally stable.
Trannies should be banned from the army.
Unless they're comfort girls. Then we need to recruit.
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>>135091016
If an actual war starts, and men are actually needed, men will be going off to war. And no one will care what you dress and act like before you were conscripted. And when you won't give a fuck what you dress and act like when you're knee deep in trenchwater, building the walls higher with corpses and keeping the fats off your rotting feet somewhere in Europe.
Enjoy not being in the military.
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>>135091016
agreed
they'd make the perfect human shields
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>>135091708
theyre physically fit though!
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>>135091016
>Midgets should be allowed in the NBA. Any American who loves this game should be allowed to join a team and fight for the ball.
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who is raiding us with this tranny propaganda?
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>>135091016
SHUT UP BROWN PERSON! WE ARE TAKING THIS COUNTRY BACK!
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>>135091516
>Anybody this confused about their own life, shouldn't be in the business of taking the lives of others.

Well said
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>>135091278
She said it herself. She's allowing us to discriminate against her. It's our duty as patriots to exclude her as we see fit.
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THIS IS THE FUTURE
AND ITS AMAZING
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>>135091016
Your degeneracy belongs hidden from the eyes of society.

Christ won't reject you, turn to Christ and quit sinning.
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>>135091016
>Letting trannies to the military without making the U.S. a giant joke to the enemies is American

Yeah no, fuck off.
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>>135091948
>al-Chihuahua
my sides
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>>135092087
"she"
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>>135091016
>a country military is it's sword and shield
>we should forge this sword and shield with Broken and weak materials instead of the best and brightest materials
T. dumb fucking people
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>>135091813
>checks flag
Yup. not a surprise.
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>>135091436
no teeth in that smile.

Depression or crooked teeth anons?
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>Implying being transgender somehow impedes you're ability to fight for your country. Seriously, have any of you basement dwellers even met a transgender person?
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>>135092097

That's disgusting. Christ. That's so gross. Jesus fucking, that's not even remotely attractive. It's like looking at self mutilation.
Government pays for this nonesense?
Fucking christ.. .Kids needs fathers.
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>>135091278
nice jawline bro
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>>135092110
Christianity is for people who are to stupid to realize that degeneracy is bad just by using logic. Only people of weak minds and people who refuse to question their beliefs believe in Christianity and most other religions.
However there are a lot of dumb people in America so I would never actively oppose Christianity, because it is needed.
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>>135091016
The military should be allowed in transgenders
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>>135092682
>to stupid
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>>135091016
>Any American who loves this country should be allowed to join the military and fight for our country.
Yep we should totally allow the morbidly obese to join for free health care, and people who are blind to join, or missing both hands. Just imagine the capabilities of our war machine than.
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>>135092493
>>135092129
>>135091948
Give me one good reason why a mentally stable and physically capable transgender shouldn't be able to serve
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>>135092682
Islam is worse my nigger
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>>135091016
Why is Trump campaigning against traps now? /pol/ has to prevent this from happening any more.

#trumpettes4traps
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>>135091016
Mentally ill humans should not be allowed to be in the military. If you want that, then we can say that killers and pedophiles should be able to join too.
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>>135092876
>mentally capable
>transgender
pick one
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>>135091016
who makes these threads, seriously its like someone comes on /pol/ and posts whatever the opposite trump says every day.
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>>135091278
gee that was fast
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>>135092110
>Look at picture for Buddhist symbols
We cool.
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>>135092876
i just fucking said
If you could pick a sword between 2
one uses a mix of good and bad metals
the other uses only the best metals
WHY WOULD YOU FUCKING PICK THE FIRST ONE?
the military is not a fucking job, it's your life it's not a joke or it's not supposed to be.
you are fucking dealing with people's life's and homes. why would ANY ONE want some mentally deranged fuck head defending them
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>>135091278
>fights for people's right to discriminate
>complains when people discriminate
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>>135093306
Literally mentally ill
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Loving your country does not mean you are fit to serve you fucking retard. Lucky trannies weren't allowed when I was in.
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>>135091016
>Any American who loves this country should be allowed to join the military and fight for our country.

No.

People taller than 6'8" aren't allowed in the military.

You sound like someone who has never cared about who can serve until today.
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>>135091016
Retarded degenerates shouldn't be allowed in the military!
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Yeah so when your done with all your stuff join up.
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>>135093640
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>>135092682
You've clearly never heard of natural law theology. It's pretty common in Catholicism.
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>>135092876
Do you know what (and how much of it, for that matter) it takes to keep them mentally stable and physically capable, hmmmm?
Dumb. Fuck.
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>>135091016
>The most suicidal community should join the second most suicidal community.
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>>135092876
>transgender
>mentally stable
Give me a good reason why a mentally stable and physically capable 9 year old shouldn't be able to serve om the exact same ranks then.
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>>135092682
Buddhism's gotchu bro.

From the Kalama Sutta in the Pali canon (the most legitimate scriptures of the Buddha)

"So in this case, Kalamas, don't go by reports, by legends, by traditions, by scripture, by logical conjecture, by inference, by analogies, by agreement through pondering views, by probability, or by the thought, 'This contemplative is our teacher.' When you know for yourselves that, 'These qualities are unskillful; these qualities are blameworthy; these qualities are criticized by the wise; these qualities, when adopted & carried out, lead to harm & to suffering' — then you should abandon them."
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>>135092876
>Mentally stable transgender

Mutual exclusion error. Does not compute.
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fuck no faggot the military is not an equal opportunity employer
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>>135091016
SAGED.
You faggots need to stop replying to these bait threads there are much more important things going on
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>>135094037
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>>135093766
>tfw one of the greatest symbols of transgender representation was convicted of treason over spilling spaghetti over a fuckton of classified military info yet won a get-out-of-jail-free card by Obongo solely because vagina.
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>>135091016
>Any American who loves this country should be allowed to join the military and fight for our country
Incorrect. Those with severe mental or physical illnesses do not, and never had, have the right to join the armed forces. Gender dysphoria is a sever mental illness with symptoms that often. manifest as both crippling depression and self-destructive, harmful, behavior. None of that is acceptable in a military setting.
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>>135094037

Shouldn't you be off doing oh so important things right now? Quit wagging your finger at us, busybody prick.
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>>135091016

Fuck off and die already, trannyfag, we've been having this discussion since the early morning and you're just too late now for us to give a shit about your lame position.
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>>135094037
>sage anything i dont like#!
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>>135093125
>>135093897
You don't think there exists a single trans person who just transitions and has no other accompanying problems?

I'll admit that by the nature of the condition very few trans will actually be eligible but that doesn't mean you ban every single one.

>>135093282
>why would ANY ONE want some mentally deranged fuck head defending them
I wouldn't either. I'd exclude trans persons who suffered from depression, bipolar, schizophrenia etc.

If these people can pass the same physical and mental assessments that every other soldier must pass why can they not serve?

>>135093786
Whilst clearly in the minority you do have to recognise that there do exist trans people who are perfectly mentally stable without much or any assistance.

>>135093834
Because its not reasonable to expect a nine year old to make an informed decision on whether or not to serve.
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>>135092682
Christianity is literally paganism 2.0 and the only thing the Byzantines did was to flip some core paganistic values over because they were actively generating degenerates.
For instance,in paganism the naked body was worshipped.In christianity,modesty is worshipped
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>>135094509
>Since the early morning
Dude.
Work.
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>>135091016
Great, all the 10yo playing COD can join and serve then
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>>135091016
There's always been lots of things that disqualify somebody from serving and yes insanity is and always been one of them. Go be a crazy "female" with a dick somewhere else.
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>>135094509

You just admitted you've spent the entire day shitposting on pol. Get a life, faggot.
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>>135094465
this
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>>135091278
> Thank you for your service
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>>135094465
You're just a hater who doesn't understand the joys of a feminine penis ... yet.
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>>135091016
>should be allowed
only if they are physically and psychologically capable of performing their duties if they want to be coddled they shouldn't be joining the military and the military shouldn't be accommodating it.
I don't see how banning them from joining outright fixes anything, it just stirs up more people
It's pretty fucked up that the military has to pay for their sex change surgeries and shit though
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>>135091016
You should only be allowed to join the military if you are fit to serve. Not the other way around. It is a responsibility of those ready able and willing to wear the uniform and capable of carrying out their orders should be serving. Trans are none of those things. They just want the perks without the sacrifice.

PastaThe left intentionally pics fights that can't be well defined or solved. It gives them white guilt points to farm. No other race gets any of this shit because nobody else will give them the time of day. We are called racist because we are the only ones who give any kind of compensation for being discriminated against. Ask a white South African about diversity. The trannies are the perfect poster children for the regressive left. They are mentally ill, but doctors are not allowed to diagnose or treat them properly because it might hurt their precious feelings. They expect way more rights and protection all the while holding up the victim flag like Marines on Iwo Jima. They are never held accountable for their massively disproportionate amount of degenerate behavior. They are extremely divisive against the traditional home and decent way of life and they blame normal people for the result. They are the left an extremely vocal minority of people who act like degenerate assholes while being shitty to the people they expect special treatment from and creating 99% of the bullshit in any given situation they are involved in. They are the perfect tool of division and degradation of the straight white male for the left. That is why they are promoted so heavily.
And they don't belong in positions of authority or responsibility like the fucking military.
T. Closet celibate trans who knows they have a mental illness and treats it the only current way you can responsibly. By shutting the fuck up about it and trying to act normal and not be a huge degenerate pain in the ass to everyone you meet.
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>>135094527
why is it reasonable to expect it from someone who is even less mentally stable than the nine year old then? I'd rather trust a group of kids who just feel like peeing and do it naturally over a group of adults who look at themselves in the mirror and decide to mutilate themselves and pretend to be somethig they will never become.
The more trans men fight over the right to be considered as full fledged women, the more actual women will suffer
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>>135091016
Are you in the military?
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>>135095520
Thats why its banned.. Duh
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>>135091204
I'm color blind

we need impeachment
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>>135091278
Literally didn't fight as a tranny, only got the surgeries as gibs after retirement
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>>135091278
>thank for you cervix
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>>135091016
The issue is that there are different standards soldiers are required to meet in order to be a combat soldier in the military. Women have easier requirements than men because they tend to be weaker. Men who don't meet their requirements can claim to be trans and then meet the women's requirement which means a weaker less effective military. If you can't comprehend this op, then you shouldn't be here
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>>135091016
I have a serious lung infection. WTF it's my right to join the military too. Just get rid of all health standards.
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>>135096166
and tits apparently?
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reading the neogaf meltdown was well worth it overall
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Can retards join?
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>>135095455
Holy shit that sick fuck could fit bottom right corner inside itself? Jesus christ on a cracker that's sick.
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>>135091016
I had minor surgery as a child.
IMPEACH THE ORANGE BABOON
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>>135096408
nowadays laughing at GAF is beating a dead horse
everyone knows that place is officially the polar opposite of r/The_Donald
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>>135091016
Can guarantee most are just joining for the free pussy surgery or meds.
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>>135091016
>Using God's Rainbow
Even God wants to Silence the Faggots.
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>>135092097
What the fuck did I just watch. is that MTF or FTM? Why is it so hairy? Why does it look like a mutilated hole?

WHAT THE FUCK
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>>135091016
I'm over-anxious IMPEACH!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>135097005
yeah true, it's kind of lost it's lustre but you can still get a chuckle or two
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>>135096938
What is the meaning of "16 to 19 years of age or younger"? Can you translate this into English? Does this basically mean 19yo, in which case we have no legal problem and you, anon, are a retard.
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>>135091278
looks like my exes mom tb.h fa.m
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>>135091016

I'm in a wheelchair and I want to join the marines you bigoted shitlords!!!!
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>>135091132
>trannies go to fight in war
>war kills trannies
>/pol/ is against this

you people are a special kind of fucking retard and are a constant reminder of why I don't lurk here anymore.
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>>135091016
Agree,they should be in front line,sucking off enemies dicks make them too tired to combat,Bingo!
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>>135091016
>i love my country , i should be able to join the military


>the enemy should instal ramps so i could kill then more easily
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>>135091016

I'd be interested in knowing how many transbbq's join Combat Arms, and aren't just in a laundry room somehwere. Unless they are in combat arms or some sort of real support, they aren't "fighting for their country", they're just trash in uniform.
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So do current trannies get to finish their service?

>>135097638
most trannies won't die at all and will just get a fuckton of free taxpayer money
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>>135091016
I literally don't care if a man wants to be a man, woman, dog, if he wants to stick his dick in women, pudding, the ground. If he, she, or it is willing to pick up a gun and go get shot in the head so I can sit here and play video games in peace, then by all means he should be allowed to do so.
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>>135091016
All you faggots should kys. War isn't an identity sport.
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>>135095648
>why is it reasonable to expect it from someone who is even less mentally stable than the nine year old then?
Because things aren't black and white like that and you can't reduce the world to averages. The average cis-male citizen probably isn't mentally capable of joining the army only the upper 10% have what it takes. Similarly, the average trans citizen isn't mentally capable of joining the army and likely only the upper 0.1% to 1% of trans could ever make it.

>adults who look at themselves in the mirror and decide to mutilate themselves and pretend to be somethig they will never become
Are you telling me that if you knew pic related you would treat her as a man? Would you buy her mans clothes for her birthday, use male pronouns around people that didn't know she was trans, offer her beer instead of a wine or spirits or (insert any traditionally male activity)?

For all intents and purposes, pic related can be treated as a woman, you're just being needlessly edgy otherwise.
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>>135091016
Where does dilation fit into a soldiers training? It's not about discrimination, it's about practicality.
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>>135091016
I stumbled on this video and i'd like to give some perspective. The military doesn't take people that have medical problems, issues, or circumstances that stop them from deploying or working in high risk/ stress situations. A part of how this ties in with the transgender issue is deployments if you can't deploy you become a liability to the war fighting capability of the USA. You become a liability because you are a tool, a tool that cant be used effectively, think of a car with a flat tire. Trans people have higher health risks due to hormone therapy which is one problem. Another is that if they are unable to receive their medication even more complication are due to arise. Hormonal imbalance issues apply to cis gender males also, for example a man with one testicle can not join because his body doesn't produce enough testosterone. Another issue is the cost associated with transitioning. I'm not talking just about the surgeries and the hormones either. Every day a person is sick on quarters (bedrest), incapacitated, or recovering from surgery instead of doing their job is money the military is loosing because that person is not able to work. On to another point the military screens for mental illnesses and for people with unsuitable frames of mind for the military. Some examples are depression, anxiety, and antisocial personality disorders. The military does this because they need capable personnel who are mentally resilient who are able to complete the mission. And frankly the trans community has a very high suicide rate and a trans person in the militaries chance of committing suicide would almost certainly increase exponentially due to the stress and possible mental/physical trauma associated with serving in the armed forces. This is the briefest way I could describe some of the main points of why the decision was likely made. If you have any questions or need clarification I'll answer to the best of my knowledge and experience.
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>>135097638
https://twitter.com/Whippodilly/status/890428527266365441
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>>135091016
Trannies are less than 0.5% of the population and most of them are not the type of people who want to serve in the millitary. This is going to have such a miniscule impact. I don't know why everyone is making such a big fuss over this.
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>>135097859
Except in order to maintain these crackpot ideas u need to take meds.. so if u spend weeks behind enemy lines and don't have access.. u fall apart and are useless. Fuck your kikes agenda. War is for real man. Not fake fucking Jew fags tsar Israel.. I'm getting bored
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>>135091016
Trans people should be in the military. Just as they are crushing "women's" records in the Olympics, they would also be MUCH better soldiers when compared to normal women. A trans woman-to-man is pumped full of testosterone, and a trans man-to-woman will still be stronger than a normal female. I'd take a trans person over a female.
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>>135091016
There's a reason they don't let in people with depression.
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>>135091016
Transgenders should be allowed, people with gender dysphoria should not.
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>>135091016
They won't let you in if you have asthma or chronic migraines. Or if you've had a major surgery. There is a laundry list longer than an elephants dick of disqualifying conditions that will keep you out of the military. That they carved out and exception for people who wanted to mutilate themselves and have the military pay for it was an insult to every 4F asthmatic flatfoot that was denied entry. So fuck off.
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>>135097638
They're almost exclusively POGS IIRC
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>>135098214
Ya ok faggot. Kill your self.
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>>135091016
>trannies join
>burgers become easier to kill
>Russia beats USA
Wtf I love trannies now.
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>>135091016
He's discriminating against trannies because they're mentally ill degenerates that harm morale and cost money. That alone is good enough reason. The same can be said of queers.
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>>135098303
no thanks
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>>135098254
If you tell them you signed up to gun down useless sand niggers you will be thrown out. Trust me..
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>>135091016
>making American soldiers go into life or death situations with people who have a 40% suicide rate.
KYs
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>>135097975
Bro this chick doesn't want to join the military.

Ever think about this: It's easier to do a blanket ban than to go through picking apart every single one, just to reject them. It's a simple question of risk for reward, and the equation leaves them in the shitter. Who cares if 1% of trannies can make it into the military, how many had to be told to fuck off? How many is that total 100? Blanket ban, fuck off, thanks
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>>135098090
Good post that really sums it up

TLDR trannies are mentally ill liabilities
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>>135098090
you sound pretty realistic imo. but take advantage of suicidal tendancies and put them in high risk mission in some prostitutes undercover ...why not.vietkong style.
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>>135091016
Jeff Sessions won't have homosexuals defouling and greasing up his perfect killing machine, maggot!
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>>135092110
Saved. Thanks!
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>>135094527
>there do exist trans people who are perfectly mentally stable
Transgenders are by very definition mentally unstable. They are men who believe they are women, or women who believe they are men. There is nothing mentally normal about that.
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>>135098656
suki suki 5$...
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>>135098679
too late
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>>135091016
People with fucking flat feet aren't allowed in the military. People with ADHD. People with OCD. Anyone who's been on an anti-depressant. So why the flying fuck should a man or woman who thinks they have the wrong reproductive organs be allowed in?
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The mentally ill should not be allowed in the military, I agree with Trump.
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>>135097273
Expatriate already!
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Let's see how many tranny suicides happen in the next week or so since they're already incredibly unstable.
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>>135098469
this is a nicely composed post
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>>135091016
no what trump is doing is creating a distraction from the fact that his healthcare initiative is failing once again.

this applies to the minute subsection of the .3% trans population who want to join the military. i dont know why so many people are going apeshit over this
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>>135099133
Way to go fag
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>>135091016
Yes, we should allow people with any kind of mental or physical disorder to join!
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Makes sense why the trannies shouldnt be able to join the military. Why's everyone so mad?
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>>135097686
I work with people who have disabilities daily, and I completely agree with you.

My charges have no place on the battlefield. They belong where they are.
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>>135097638

Get lost then you fucking cuck, what you're saying isn't even likely
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>>135098656
>you sound pretty realistic imo. but take advantage of suicidal tendancies and put them in high risk mission in some prostitutes undercover ...why not.vietkong style.

had to make it palatable to the general public since i just posted that comment on youtube a few minutes ago
>>135098601
thanks man
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>>135098959

/thread
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>>135099262
Because muh feelings. ;-;
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>>135099262
they already joined
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Money needs to go for weapons and military preparedness, not hormones and genital mutilation surgeries.
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>>135097975
>using a literal Barbie doll trans as example for all trans people
you aren't doing any favors for your argument, bro. your pic's example is the textbook definition of someone who has invested gorillions in plastic surgery and treatments for the sake of the best womanly looks possible, it would be absolutely cou terproductive to achieve this result and then decide to throw it all away serving the military and getting shot, hell not even that, just getting bruises on your pretty tanned peach-skinned tits and ass
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>>135092110
What is your issue with pizza?
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>>135091016
These freaks don't love America.
They have no intention of fighting.
They are literally only joining for free tranny surgery and benefits.

Thank you, based God Emperor for getting rid of these logistic nightmares.
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>>135099554
it is pizzagate
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>>135091016
We have enough military suicides already.
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I don't understand the difference in argument between Transgender people and Homosexual people; aren't both categories pretty much the definition of mental illness?
We're built to procreate and follow the XX and XY chromosome structure within our bodies. If you aren't wanting to fuck the opposite sex you're pretty mentally unstable IMO.
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Unless you are too short, too tall, have medical problems, too old, bad vision...need hormone pills and a vagina stretcher on the battle field. It is not a social club.
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>>135099332
I see we use same biological algorythm pattern,bro.
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>>135091776
Which is a bigger disease, liberalism or trannyism
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>>135091016
i agree completely trans people should be allowed into the army i mean someone needs to take front lines
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> We should let people who want to kill themselves over somebody having a different opinion serve in one of the most stressful jobs possible.

I mean, honestly, I'm kinda behind it as it means more of them kill themselves.
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>>135091016
I agree OP. Trump is a fucking idiot for not allowing trannies to sign up for the army and get gunned/tortured by sandniggers.
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>>135092110
Christianity hasn't saved me from pizza, thank god.
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>>135091016
Fucking Slide, sage this faggot
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2 genders
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>>135097181
my guess, MtF who just jacked off. thats semen i would bet.
>>135092097
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>>135098915
That picture made me vomit.
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>>135091016
Only the best top tier alpha killers are allowed. And transfaggots aren't one of them.

Only thing what mattis is effiency and combat readiness. And our endgoal is to make killer robots with zero emotions able to kill move or retreat at will. Putting transfaggots in pushing us further away from our goal. Skynet will prevail no mattis the cost.


<<<<<<----------------------- do they look like transfaggots to you? No? I thought so.
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>>135097181
It's chris-chan. What do you expect?
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>>135091016
this is 2/10 b8 but fuck it.
People with bad eye-sight, bad bones, and bad mental health are also barred from joining, but let me guess, we should totally let them join so they can play soldier right? Their bodies are literally changing muscle distribution and bone shape on hormones and many trannies openly discuss having mental issues because of their dysphoria. They would be terrible soldiers, even worse than people with just naturally bad health. All they would be is a liability.
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>>135099749
Gay as a mental illness? Maybe but gay people don't jeopardize the mission which is pretty much one only relevant ting
>>135099811
Confused AF about what you mean
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>>135099749
homosexuals can still relieve their urges and still live regular lives, no one is required by law to procreate or else sterile heteros (or people who just can't afford raising kids) would also be condemned of degeneracy.
the problem with trans people is that not only they deny reality, they also want YOU to deny reality as well. Everybody must play make-believe with them.
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>>135100048
WHY DOES IT ANGRILY SPIT OUT THE JIZZ LIKE A COKE DEALER HOCKING A LOUGIE ONTO A WHORE'S FACE
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>>135099684
Straight from TRUTH DIMENTION!!!!
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>>135091016

This is clearly bait but I'll still make a point

The military is NOT an equal opportunity employer, people who join must be capable and integrate well into the forces

Last time I checked the military disqualified those with severe mental illnesses
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>>135100219
we think the same...about that.
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>>135092110
Christianity is what made all this shit possible.

Notice: non christian countries have minimal faggotry and no tranny bullshit. Christian countries? Full of this shit
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There are 15,000 patriotic transgender Americans in the US military fighting for all of us. What happened to your promise to fight for them?

https://twitter.com/Caitlyn_Jenner/status/890254837257981952
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>>135091016
>Any American who loves this country should be allowed to join the military and fight for our country
what about cripples?
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>>135099909
Good idea goy! Then they can get free benefits and free genital mutilation... then never actually die in combat because there's no war. You're a genius!
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>>135093195
>posting some nümale faggot, instead of orson wells
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>>135091016
> draft dodger not letting trans die for kikes
> pol complains not joining the military because they are pussies and not dying for kikes
> trans will willing fight and die for kikes but pol says no

YOU CANT MAKE THIS SHIT UP ANONS HOLY SHIT. I wanna see one of you anons try TO BTFO ME.
> inb4 mentally ill
> inb4 pointless spending
Yes, all of those costs can go into the VA.
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transgender people can join the military and fight. the problem is trans people are usually mentally ill (just look at their social media) and its not good to have such people in a competitive environment that forces you to conform
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>>135091016
Transgenders and gays should be allowed in the military as long as they keep it to themselves and conform. In the military you are not an individual butterfly. You are a tool with a purpose.
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>>135100482
LETS THEM BURNS...THERE FUTURS COALS.
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>>135091016
The military doesn't allow the mentally unstable to serve, faggot.
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>>135091278
Thanks bro
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>>135091016
Honestly its a good thing. Less people to feed this bloated carcase I can only hope one day it will be forced to go through some major changes due to lack of people wanting to join this sham.
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>>135100219
I would argue that any sort of mental illness in a combat environment is a risk to the frontline morale. It's not the place to have a possibly homosexual soldier to feel either depressed, made fun of for his sexuality, or feel repressed and taking action through rape/suicide.

I think it's time we relooked at military mental illness. We'll quickly find that trans and homosexuals really aren't too far away on the mental spectrum in regards to being ill.
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>>135100482
No, there are 16 gorillion.
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>>135100610
>in b4 mentally ill
But that's true though, gender dysphoria makes you unfit for military service.
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>>135092854
fattos would make good hesco fillers
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>>135100792
end of argument.
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>>135100708
Being gay is a mental illness.
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>>135100610
>Yes, all of those costs can go into the VA.
Who pays for the VA?
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>>135097638
>trannies go to fight in war
>incompetence gets others killed
>you are for this

you are a special kind of fucking retard and are a constant reminder of why I don't like earth anymore.
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>>135092876
because such a thing doesn't exist. its like a monopole magnet or dry water
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>>135100265
urethra is intact, quite possibly some of the internal plumbing too. Prostate love-juice among other things.
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>>135097638
>implying trannies will take up combative roles
And worse, you know (((who))) will glamorize them as veterans.
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>>135100842
So a country shouldn't have a military? Not sure what you're getting at
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>>135091016
>Man Joins air force and makes it into selection to be a pilot
>Military spends millions and many hours to train this man to be a pilot and complete his missions
>Once this man is a pilot he becomes a tranny and now takes hormones paid for by the government
>He can now no longer fly because the tranny medications prohibit the safe operation of machinery like aircraft, flight doctor grounds him
>He now has no purpose in the military, millions were wasted and hundreds of man hours spent by dedicated trainers were for nothing
>Now he needs some busy work job while sucking up more tax dollars
>Meanwhile the air force must now train another pilot to fill the role while being stuck with the tranny since he cannot be discharged (without fucking up somehow) and he has years to go before reenlistment

This is exactly why trannys should not be allowed to openly server. Want to be a tranny? Fine, but not in the military. The military is not compulsory. You can leave after your service and cut your dick off.

There are already many useless people in the military. More are not needed.
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All these trap threads today make me so frustrated that I'm locked in a chastity cage!
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>>135098478
>Bro this chick doesn't want to join the military.
Never said that. I was just saying it'd be retarded to treat the her as if she was a guy.

>It's easier to do a blanket ban than to go through picking apart every single one, just to reject them
lmao like its that hard. Just send them to a psychologist and have them evaluated for the conditions most known to affect trans people. How many transgenders do you think want to join the military in the first place? Much like the cis population those that do suffer from mental instability aren't going to be applying in the first place, even if they did want to join.

>>135098849
>They are men who believe they are women, or women who believe they are men
Depends on if you take a meaningful or meaningless definition of what should be socially considered a man or a woman. If you think its solely chromosomes and I'll call you a man even if no one could ever possibly guess from appearance that you're biologically male, like things that women traditionally like and in general have a female mindset then sure these are men who think they are women. However taking the definition that makes sense in every scenario outside of most medical research and a hospital and is actually in the dictionary then these are effectively women and men.

Even if you were correct and they did believe they were something that was demonstrably untrue and that was it how does that impact their combat performance? If they were instead to believe that their mother was a cucumber (with no other accompanying issues) would that make them any less eligible a soldier?
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>>135100470
Except Christianity has been a part of those countries for over a thousand years. Only now, in Europe and the US, where Christianity is on the decline are we seeing this shit.
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>>135101101
Exactly. One more reason the ban is smart as fuck. Also we enable these mentally ill fucks even more. Then theyll ask for more and more until they become just like niggers or illegals: a cancer that grows and wont die
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>>135099728
Ohhhhh! Ok.

Maybe add a gate icon behind/beneath the slice?
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>>135091278
>fought for your right
>guarding a desk and fighting paperwork
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>>135091016
You got this all wrong. The reason they are putting a "ban on the trans" is because the Muslims find it culturally insensitive to to have Transgender/ Homosexuals deployed in their countries.
You don't want to be insensitive to the Muslims, now do you?
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>>135091645
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>>135101042
> inb4 me
Nigger you are paying for the space corps. Why wouldn't you let the mentally stable traps serve, if you aren't going to serve?
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>>135091016

T-tards have ....issues....and ..........................needs, including medical needs that are uncommon.

From a military perspective, it's like you had your legs chopped off because you like being called Skip, but you want the military to pay for everything and THAT is really the ONLY reason any trannies bother pulling that shit while in the Armed Forces.
Otherwise they wouldn't even want to join up.
Transitioning different parts of your body and day-to-day bs at the same time is not what anyone should be doing when the whole job is NOT ABOUT YOUR FUCKING SEX ORGANS so you need therapy and nobody knows what to say to some poor pleb who wants to be the other sex, when he/she/it needs to be fucking focused on doing their FUCKING JOB!!!!!

For emotionally fucked up whatsits, they need to be banned, since all they seem to do is be primadonna drama queens that lash out and commit crimes because they want THE DRAMA
and can't seem to stay on task.
If you are conflicted, you should not be given extra stress of life-death situations, weapons, or free drama and surgery every time you feel like changing parts for a bit.
no, you guys fucked up big time
this is the blowback
you couldn't keep it in your pants and do your fucking jobs
but you are all too willing to take advantage of that good old military healthcare.
You aren't worth the fucking trouble of trying to put up with your babbling shit and drama crap in the heat of battle, much less letting you poor fucks to keep ABUSING our military system.
fuck you all for making this all about your fucking puds
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>>135091016
I have high function autism and I was not allowed to join the military all this time but suddenly when mentally ill trannies can't join everyone throws a bitch fit, no take your trannies and kys.
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I want to signal my virtue by joining the military. I must be allowed to!
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>>135101136
Nah not at all anti military. Just the current military is more caught up with looking good and covering its own ass then actual efficiency. Poor leadership,bad promotion system not based on actual leadership skills, and whole lot of "do as I say not as I do" is to blame. What I was getting at was more hopefully if it collapses in on itself it will get reworked into something better.
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>>135101689
Are they really capable? Dont they need meds?
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>>135092682
>Only people of weak minds and people who refuse to question their beliefs believe in Christianity

If you have ever been to a theological school then you would know that all biblical scholars do is question the religion and their beliefs.
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>>135097638
Trans people in combat roles would put other, normal soldiers in danger when they have an anxiety attack over being misgendered by some local. I know around 5 transsexual people and none of them would ever be fit for the military in a million years. They're all about embracing their ""inner self"" to the point of self-mutilation, when military life is all about destroying your sense of self.

Besides, it's not like Trump woke up this morning and decided to ban Trans people. The military has been saying this for some time now and Trump finally obliged them. I'm more inclined to believe that the military knows what's best for itself more than any virtue-signaling upper-middle class leftist drone that believes the lies about America being a melting pot.
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>>135091016
Trump is right.
Transgenders and all other faggot degenerates should be rounded up and executed.
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>>135099133
Underrated post
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>>135091016
If a psychotic faggot wants to lose their dick they can squat on a mine.
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>>135093195
Buddhist symbol? I thought that was the universal symbol of a basic bitch.
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>>135091016
How can I expect a person to fight for my country when the majority of their time is taken up fighting their own body?
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>>135092496
Acknowledging reality is hate speech.
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>>135102041
>Dont they need meds?
Not the ones that actually have their dicks. Less meds are needed for them, since they aren't cutting their dicks off, just hormones.
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>>135096166
i may have had a mild stroke
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>>135098915
Taken during Obongo's reign. Did you miss the news today? That's being overturned.
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Honestly...I don't want to accidentally fall in love with a good looking Trans "womyn". Since they are trying to fit in as a womyn they will go for any moron (me) that finds anything fuckable as an option. I would end up in the mental hospital or kill myself. At least lesbians (and normal girls) would reject me outright from the beginning.
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>>135102335
Hormones are still too much and unfit for service
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>>135099133
>creating a distraction from the fact that his healthcare initiative is failing once again

Trump can't really do anything about that. He's the President. It's the fault of people like McCain and McConnel. Trump wants to replace which is dumb and it is good that failed. Bad however that the repeal bill failed, which had previously passed in congress under Obama who then vetoed it.
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>>135099413
Not an argument because Trump is saying they cannot openly serve. In your image the fag is not being obvious while serving. You are free to be a tranny faggot after you discharge.
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- Hiring Trans-gendered personnel increases the risk level of a company with insurance companies because Trans-gendered personnel have an exceptionally high chance of attempting suicide. The military does not want Trans-Gendered personnel because they are an added risk and a financial burden.
- Trans-gendered personnel are sick people and should be treated as such.

Please view the following link, a *.pdf file provided by UCLA:
https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/wp-content/uploads/AFSP-Williams-Suicide-Report-Final.pdf

This 18-page document (From UCLA, a Liberal School) shows that:
• Suicide attempts among trans men (46%) and trans women (42%) were slightly higher than the full sample (41%). Cross-dressers assigned male at birth have the lowest reported prevalence of suicide attempts among gender identity groups (21%).
• Analysis of other demographic variables found prevalence of suicide attempts was highest among those who are younger (18 to 24: 45%), multiracial (54%) and American Indian or Alaska Native (56%), have lower levels of educational attainment (high school or less: 48-49%), and have lower annual household income (less than $10,000: 54%).
• Prevalence of suicide attempts is elevated among those who disclose to everyone that they are trans-gendered or gender-non-conforming (50%) and among those that report others can tell always (42%) or most of the time (45%) that they are trans-gendered or gender non-conforming even if they don’t tell them.
• Respondents who are HIV-positive (51%) and respondents with disabilities (55-65%) also have elevated prevalence of suicide attempts. In particular, 65 percent of those with a mental health condition that substantially affects a major life activity reported attempting suicide.
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- These surveys suggest an unparalleled level of suicidal behavior among transgender adults.
- Trans-Gendered people constitute approximately 0.3 percent of the U.S. population. That is 3 out of 1,000. A statement made by Shepard Smith today on Fox News claimed that, "there are thousands and thousands of Trans-gendered personnel currently in the military." That was an false statement, and bear in mind, Shepard Smith, himself, is a homosexual man.
- I prefer to use the term, "Trans-Gendered," because the term implies that these people have inflicted themselves with this so-called condition due to mental illness. I personally had a friend that was a, "He-turned-she," who had committed suicide. He was a very confused person.
- I also believe that Trans-Gendered people can go to "Heaven." We are spiritual beings having a human experience.
- Have a good night
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>>135099133
Thats not Trump's job you dumb faggot. Besides no one gives a flying fuck about trannies but virtue signalers
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Oh, and in addition, the United States Military is not the place for social experiments.
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>>135091016
trannys will be a thing of the past after America is made great again...
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>>135091645
We seriously need to meme Bill Nye to die, immediately.
This nigger is passing off liberal Jew agendas as science.
That's a fucking crime in my book!
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>>135103637
I agree. We really need to put girls into a separate military force or possibly completely taken out of the equation. Also, blacks have proven to be a detriment to our forces and need to be among themselves; plenty of instances of violence and disciplinary issues within the military ranks due to their inability to learn quickly.
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>>135091016
youre right, they should make a unit of downies and trannies. They can call them the Chromosome Cavalry
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>>135092097
The government pays for this degeneracy
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>>135091708
This.
Should bipolar disorders and other mentally unstable people join the military?
No.
It's just like the police force, you have to trust that your teammates are of sound mind, not mutilating their penises.
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>>135103637
We pay more for errectile dysfunction than transgender people.

But hey. I say that everyone here should be made to serve the military. Everyone in the country. Universal conscription.
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>>135104110
or attracted to the same sex. Our bodies can't reproduce without the opposite sex.
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>>135104214
The Military suicide rate has been high for some time. These trans-gendered will only add to the suicide rates.
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>>135092097
Fuck you! It's the most disgusting thing I've ever seen. It's a pity one can't unsee the seen
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>>135092597
yes. they're usually physically unfit either sticks of obese.
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Why dont he ban homosexuals and cucks and niggers and spics? Why stop only on transgendered
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>>135091016
yea let mentally ill and handicapped people fight that will surely work
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>>135104323

Suicide doesn't cost the military a penny when you are done (and you usually do it when you're done.). Aside from that the usual reason for suicide is you miss your buddies. God knows I do.
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>>135104556
Having brown skin doesn't do too much regarding mental health (maybe). But homosexuality is definitely a mental health concern that needs to be looked into.
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>>135091016
>for no reason
>science has proven trans are mentally ill
>cannot serve in the armed forces with a mental disorder
anon plz....
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>>135092097
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>>135104849
You think the chain of command likes higher suicide rates? Just look at it from that perspective before you get all personal. No is the answer. The public hears about it. If one of these trans-gendered commits suicide, it will be blamed on hazing or something like his drill sergeant made him do pushups or some dumb shit like that to make some straight white male the fall guy. fuck that.
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>>135105130
out of curiosity I'm asking for sources.
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>>135091016
america shouldnt pay for hormones or the surgery.
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Form specific units of transgender soldiers to Muslim nations. Watch their heads explode.
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>>135091016
>Any American who loves this country should be allowed to join the military and fight for our country

What if they have a number of serious medical/mental health issues? That would be, at best a detriment to good order and discipline?

>What Trump is doing is discriminating people for no reason

See above. You know what the top military brass are really serious about in recent years? The suicide of its members. You know who commits suicide at significantly higher rates than normal people? Trans people. That alone is probably enough to medically disqualify most of them, but there are a ton of other medical and day to day issues that retards like you think you're entitled to preach at others about despite being completely ignorant of how the military actually operates.

The immaturity and naivety of people like you aggravates the fuck out of me. You go around spouting off about all the way you think things "should" be all the time. Everybody should get free school, and free healthcare, and we should just take all the immigrants and not have any borders because that's the way you think it SHOULD be. Well, everything isn't sunshine and fucking rainbows all the time in the real world, and sometimes shit sucks for certain people.
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>>135105255
The better thing would be to treat veterans after we're done serving. It happens to everyone. Not just trans people.
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>>135098142
because they want to impeach trump. It's the liberal media at it again
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>>135105299
https://www.psychiatry.org/patients-families/gender-dysphoria/what-is-gender-dysphoria
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>>135105255
The tranny would more likely kill their fellow soldiers due their mental health. Self preservation against existential threats.
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>>135091016
Oh look, it's ANOTHER shill thread. It's always just shills since the election. Pol going public was a terrible idea, and now (((they))) have a death grip on this board. They can have it, this board is a fucking liberal shit hole full of "progressive" magateens. Fucking degenerates.

Time to move to another site, boys.
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>>135093766
>No Air Force
Really makes you think
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>>135105400
Have you served anon?
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>>135091016
>Any American who loves this country should be allowed to join the military and fight for our country

No.

http://www.military.com/join-armed-forces/disqualifiers-medical-conditions.html
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>>135098412
yes please.
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>>135105448
Roger.
Tracking.
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>>135105531
>https://www.psychiatry.org/patients-families/gender-dysphoria/what-is-gender-dysphoria

Thats not a study. Nor does it define it as a mental illness.
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I think trans in the military will be "the issue that finally broke me."
This is just tedious.
I have used up all the empathy I will ever have in my life.
I cannot get myself to care about the plight of trannies.
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>>135105683
Yeah. I did 4 years and I'm considering going back and getting a commission when I finish college.
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>>135091016

the tranny ban isnt as big of an issue as it would be because most trannies are antifa sjws who hate America and the military.
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>>135105872
I guess you missed the part where it said

"Diagnosis

The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5) provides for one overarching diagnosis of gender dysphoria with separate specific criteria for children and for adolescents and adults."

If you want a link to the fucking study that concluded this, I suggest writing a fucking letter to the people that diagnosed it.
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>>135099840
it's cultural marxism
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>>135105961
>Implying you can get through Officer Training
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>>135091016
>Any American who loves this country should be allowed to join the military and fight for our country.
Any American who loves suicide should be allowed to join the military and fight for the banker.
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>>135091016
Of course they should.
They should be on the front-line, and test for mines.
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>>135106170
>implying I can't
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>>135094527
>You don't think there exists a single trans person who just transitions and has no other accompanying problems?

no.
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>>135091016
they can join as their sex - no one is discriminating against them. Gays can serve - they just need to say they're gay (which most of them are). How hard is that.
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>>135105961
>>135105961
I was 11 bravo, vanguards @ Fort Riley. Are you going back to chuville or are you going to stay stateside?
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>>135091016
You know how I know that's not a real soldier, just by looking at the uniform? Get your lefty propaganda out the fuck of here
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Trans-people hate the idea that their precious identity is a mental illness.
I don't insist that my depression is who I am. I don't insist that my OCD fears are "valid." They're not. That's what makes them mental illness.
Go ahead and insist that being trans doesn't cause huge amounts of suffering and distress just like every other mental illness.
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>>135106624
>how hard is that
Yea how hard is it for tax payers to fit their degenerate fag bills and bullshit they pile up at their expense. You are a genius
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>>135106624
I'm fucking discriminating against them asshole. Because their spouses are stealing from me in the form of tricare subsidizing their frivolous sex change operations. They can go fuck themselves. They haven't been allowed to join for years, they know this very well, and they continue to use the arm of the state as a shim to get into my wallet. Fuck them. Gas them all.
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>>135101754

>Semi Social/Learning disability

BANNED FROM MILITARY

>Want's to take estrogen and chop dick off

Welcome to the US military!
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REMINDER THAT POST-OP TRANNIES HAVE TO SHOVE A DILDO INTO THEIR OPEN WOUND EVERY FUCKING DAY FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES TO KEEP IT FROM SHUTTING
RESEARCH "TRANSEXUAL DILATION"
A SIMPLE FUCKING GOOGLE WILL PERFECTLY EXPLAIN WHY THESE 'PEOPLE' ARE NOT FIT TO SERVE
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>>135105622
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>>135106752
>>135105961
I spent an assload of time in the Army
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>>135107337
What area? Where did you serve?
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>>135107626
It's true: living with a mental illness is very difficult.
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>>135107418
Hood, Germany, Polk (Stationed there, not on rotation) and Campbell.
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>>135092559
likely meth mouth
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>>135091016
yeah so people with flat feet can get fucked but people who need to be pumped full of hormones 24/7 to refrain from killing themselves are totally qualified
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>>135091278

>implying they were trans in the military
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>>135091645

There is no way this is real.
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>>135091893
A rope climb isnt a fucking requirement for being in the military
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>>135107813
Ah I was mostly in Riley but served time in Kunar Valley and KAF.
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>>135108435
I mean pech valley kunar prov. Anyways nice jabbin with ya.
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>>135091016
*leans into mic*
wrong
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>>135092943

It's not something that we want either for honorable serving trans in the military. However:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/your-tax-dollars-will-pay-for-chelsea-mannings-reassignment-therapy-and-thats-a-good-thing

It should be expected that you shouldn't expect special treatment in the military or prison.
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>>135108435
wuz in Tuzla Bosnia, Skopje Macedonia and the Tikrit, Iraq AO's - I thought you meant duty stations in the original question...
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