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Kraut and Tea Damage Control

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He's mostly trying to prejudice his audience against other actors in this drama to deflect anger away from himself

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubNcAHCc0-w
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>>135087814
Thats not luaren, so we dont care.
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Not even two minutes before he whines about his precious kikes. Typical.
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I'll hear him out, but I'm still disappointed. I honestly thought he was at least changed when he apologized and begged for EdgySphinx to come back. Looks like I was wrong.
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>>135088428
people dont change
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>>135088246
She doesnt matter really, but I figured her pic would help
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"You've never heard of her? Dude I found her through your subs"

OH SHIT (((Kraut))) BTFO
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>>135087814
The mere fact that he denies the concept of race by resorting to cherrypicking the Daily Stormer meme article by Sven Longshanks rather than the numerous other articles and studies listen on the video shows this guy's devotion to the truth. Kraut is a cuck, and his angry skeptic persona is getting to be quite annoying.
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Since this is the whole e-celeb thread, shout out to the guy who recommended 1791l. Binging all of stuff.

>>135088485
:(
Been moving away from the whole community anyways. Aside from a bunch of smaller channels the only big guy I still watch is Sargon, and that's mostly cause of his stuff on British politics.
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>>135088428
Go watch the last video on Naked Ape's channel. Kraut is talking in a skype chat that he doesn't know is being recorded, and he's a total fucking scumbag.
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>>135088791
and even then his argument was wrong. The article Alien Mind just says Africans didnt develop the Golden Rule indepedently. It doesnt say only Europeans created it, which his counterargument rested upon
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Fuck kraut. I atleast had some respect for him when hw was internally consistent but now hes just a faggot sjw that gets people fired for being too edgy.
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>>135088969
oh right, he basically admitted to dishonesty with Edgy. Admitted he didnt even watch the video Edgy hosted
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>>135088861
Just go to TRS, you faggot. There's a Leaf-only podcast there you might be interested in.
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>>135087814
Kraut is such a cuck
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>>135088969
Yeah, that's what I was referring to when Kraut apologized. I quite like that new format Braving Ruin/Sphinx is going for.
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>>135087814
>first hand account of native African behavior
>that's racist bullshit
Sigh. Fuck these people.
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>>135089093
he's also trying to say Sphinx and Cedarwood lied... except Edgy just asked Cedarwood if Kraut had tried to get her fired. Cedarwood said yes, and someone asked Cedarwood to prove it.

Cedarwood did.

Cedarwood killed the skeptics by sourcing what he says lol
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>>135089053
>>135088861
Or try Millennial Woes, he does videos on British politics sometimes.
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>>135088861
Don't forget to watch Jas. Townsend and Son
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>>135089199
>Africans don't know the Golden Rule
>Daily Stormer cites the Golden Rule on Wikipedia
>Wikipedia article mentions the Golden Rule in Islamic, Indian and Chinese societies, nothing about Africans
>OH SHIT RAGEAFTERSTORM KNOCKED THE FUCK OUT

Talk about disingenuous
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>>135089315
David is the autist we both need and deserve.
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>>135087814
He sounds like a white wash nigger.
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>>135089053
TRS is trash my man. I'll check out the Canadian podcast, but I do a good enough job keeping up with Canadian stuff. It's just British and German politics I'd like to follow. Already listen to Nigel Farage but I have nobody for German politics now. :/

>>135089486
Huh, I thought he was a political channel but this is really comfy. Will check out.

>>135089448
Maybe. Don't know much about him beside that whole doxing fiasco awhile months back.
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>>135088246
>luaren
literally btfo by an sjw. a fucking degenerate liberal. can't stop laughing. i knew to never trust women and their fucking content.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tErCZKR_54U
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>>135090049

That video is full of inaccuracies and lies. It's hilarious that the leftists are actually championing that piece of shit video.
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>>135087814
i dont even understand what this youtube nigger shit is. Who this girl is. Who fucking cares?
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This is now the pinned comment

"kraut did nothing wrong. she wrote for some shitty UKIP blog that would have sacked her anyway." He's clearly not sorry for shit.

>>135090049
>Trusting that dumb cuck
Lel
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>>135090214
yea, if anything it concedes the central issue: brits will be a minority, but it will work out dont ask why!
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>>135090338
he didnt know any of that when he tried...
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>e-celeb shit
this kraut guy is a German living in Melbourne, he'll be cucked for life
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>>135087814
Been gone for a week. Whats going on with Kraut?
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>>135088428

What is edgy sphinx youtube channel?
And Kraut talked about a livestream about the incident that ES took part in. Where is that?
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>>135089486
Oh I won't. Reminds me of comfy PBS shows but it isn't made with my tax dollars so it's even better
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>>135090214
>finnish shill is nervous again
it's hilarious how your post isn't an argument.
it's hilarious how stefan can make a video like that, but take the time to check his sources (and claims) before releasing it.
stay mad, shill.
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On the Offensive and Teal Deer basically side against Kraut, and are honestly quite a bit smarter than him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ja1g0GswoU

Watch them instead if you're disappointed in Kraut
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>>135090649
Edgy's new channel is Braving Ruin.

Stream is on I, Hypocrite's channel.
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>>135090574
he tried to get a girl fired for doing a video about race realism.

His excuses are now "oh she wasnt even paid and they fired her for other reasons" as if any of that matters or was known to him when he tried
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>>135090574
some girl of the "skeptic" community did a video about racial differences and kraut worked with leftypol to hound her off of YouTube
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>>135090049
>hey fellow nazis
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>>135087814
Does Kraut masturbate to THE OPEN SOCIETY and REASON as he always does in his videos?
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Oh, he's also pissy that Rage said Youtube is run by Jews, when it clearly is and ANYONE can verify that if they don't believe it. More proof that simply acknowledging the presence of Jews will get you branded an "antisemite" by kike lovers like him.
>>135090439
....You what, mate?
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>>135090726

Shaun picks the ONE year out of all others when Polish people were the biggest group of migrants to say that most immigrants are white. That is a flat out lie. More immigrants come from non-EU, non-white countries in total and if he had picked any other year other than 2015 it would have shown more immigrants coming from India than Poland. He's a totally disingenuous, dishonest hack.
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>>135091221
he didnt know she wasnt paid or whatever when he tried. So he cant use that to exonerate himself now
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>>135091346
>complains about a post complaining about lying
>lies himself
wew. shill much?
last (You) for you.
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>qt white girl starts talking about race realism
>get a leftist lynch mob to destroy her instead of engaging her
>call self "skeptic" when you literally just whipped up a witch trial

Is Kraut the ultimate bull-prepper?
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>>135090726
whats this?
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>>135090797
cheers serbian bro

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCB7M2FJjnrVTprc9sBWbYWg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oK8l5DA44MM
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>>135091586

Provide data for your assertion
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Should rename himself Kraut and social justice
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>>135087814
Why are all Germans such fucking scum?
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>>135091573
Oh, ok. Well then...more proof he's not sorry. Notice he never apologised for hypocrisy either.
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>>135091586
Hmm, I wonder why Shaun picked 2015 in specific? Also >>135091830
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>>135091991
>says 1 year
>ignores 20 and 10 year process from same source
last (you) for you.
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Just leaving this here
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>>135091788
It's not a political view.
It's a cult, and they have no problem with burning even their own people.
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>all of our public intellectuals have embraced a cult religion of leftism that ignores race differences like fucking flat-earthers

I want off this ride.
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>>135090708
exactly!!!!!
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>>135090049
I wonder what your real flag is
http://www.strawpoll.me/13466049/r
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>>135091154
Show your Austrian flag, (((Kraut)))
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>>135092884
he isnt an intellectual. He's a poser
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>>135092801

That doesn't show multiple years. Now I know you're trolling. Finnbro wins argument. Thanks for trying.
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>young impressionable qt girl from the germanic area starts getting serious about race realism
>cites a daily stormer article that applies an isolated but valid example of African subhuman nature
>said daily stormer article perpetually transcends beyond legitimacy by applying these 'proofs' to all black people
>gaggle of geese flock to bully said impressionable girl alongside a decently talented skeptic
>decently talented skeptic then loses all legitimacy by making drama video over issue after impressionable girl is completely shoa'd the door

What sort of insanity is this?
Turning into a menagerie in this pit, shame on Kraut, he's much better than this.
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>>135090726
wtf I love leftists now
#BlackLivesMatter
#ImStillWithHer
#FuckWaypypo
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>>135091221
Plus that Jewish group They Can't pressured YouTube into deleting and suppressing tons of videos they didn't like
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>135093197
>gets btfo
>claims to win argument because butthurt
toppest of wew.
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>>135093209
These people never criticized someone careful like Molymeme
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>>135093209
Of course he's no better than that.
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Worthwhile read:
https://radishmag.wordpress.com/2014/09/22/reign-of-reason/
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>>135093209

But he isn't. He still can't let go of the holy doctrine that has been beaten into his head. His religion is leftism and he will not let it go. The only cure for him is a helicopter ride.
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>>135090049
>shaun and jen
Oh please
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>>135087814
he's fat
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>>135089938
>Maybe. Don't know much about him beside that whole doxing fiasco awhile months back
He's a friendly dude, really insightful about a lot of things. I prefer him over Sargon because I find that Sargon has a sort of holier than thou demeanor, which I try to avoid because I find to be quite a bad trend in the "skeptic community." I also find that Sargon is not entirely honest about the race question, while Woes is at least. But at the end of the day you can watch whatever you want. I won't try to prove to you that I'm right and you're wrong because I don't truly know.
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This literally all happened because some guy asked for proof if Kraut tried to get her fired.

Now he's apologizing
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WHO IS THAT GIRL TELL ME SOOOOS
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>>135093947
>Now he's apologizing
Except he's not. Not at all.
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#TL;DRWasRight
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>>135093947
I am gonna see what Cedarwood has to say too. Since he is being accused of shit by Kraut
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>>135094130
I mean the guy who asked the question that proved Kraut did this. This literally only happened because someone proved what they claimed on twitter
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>>135094137
Kraut apparently banned Cedarwood from commenting. He was the guy who posted the archive of Kraut getting her fired
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>>135093746
Tell me about Kraut, why does he use the red filter?
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>>135093951
she did a video on race realism. Kraut got butthurt by it and tried to get her fired
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>>135094562
to hide his shitty features?
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>>135094134
has he ever been wrong?
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>>135094137
>>135094353
What I gathered is that Kraut really hates Cedarwood. Not only did he destroy him in a debate about race, but Cedarwood likes to correct Kraut on many things on Twitter.
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>>135091788
>get a leftist lynch mob to destroy her instead of engaging her

She was offered to come on and defend her views, she declined, then deleted her youtube channel. No one bullied the slut.
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>>135094353
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I don't know who any of these people are, besides Contrapoints, and his or her fanbase is pure cancer. he/she him/herself is cancer at times, but I found a view of his/her videos enjoyable, despite how fallacious they are.
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>>135094830
oh yea, Kraut has blocked and muted Cedarwood several times apparently.

Because, Kraut constantly has hot takes, which Cedarwood thinks are fucking stupid
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>>135093746
>>135094562
from his voice i thought he was a middle class nignog
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubNcAHCc0-w
>I had never heard of her until the race video
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>>135087814
this guy sounds like a blithering psychopath
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>>135094830
btw, where did you hear this? It isnt common knowledge unless you follow these guys
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>>135092801
If you notice what you're looking at it says country of citizenship. Polish people don't need to apply for citizenship to stay in the UK for extended periods. Indian people do. There are more Polish nationals in the UK than Indian nationals but there are more Indian people in the UK than Polish people - about 50% more. Of the 980,000 Polish people in the UK only 80,000 are either British nationals or UK born compared to 600,000+ of the over 1.4 million+ Indian people and eu8 migrants have only outpaced South Asian migrants for two years out of the last ten.
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But really, Kraut really fucked himself over the hardest when he said in the middle of his meltdown yesterday when he said "Actions have consequences"

Because, while he did originally delete the tweet out of regret shortly after originally posting it out of regret, the fact was that he did it at all, and when called out on it, rather than just admitting his folly, he got indignant that people would be angry at him at all for what he did, as if he should immediately be forgiven because he deleted it. And then things just got worse.

He needs to remember; Actions have consequences.
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>>135095755
it's what SJWs say to affirm them going after people
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>>135094994

>get someone fired from their job means inviting them for a debate in SJW speak
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>>135094994
she deleted her channel like a month later.

And bruh, who would go on a stream that would be 6 on 1?
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>>135095755
>Because, while he did originally delete the tweet out of regret shortly after originally posting it out of regret, the fact was that he did it at all, and when called out on it, rather than just admitting his folly, he got indignant that people would be angry at him at all for what he did, as if he should immediately be forgiven because he deleted it. And then things just got worse.
I genuinely believe he has some sort of mental illness. Probably bipolar.
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>>135096297
he cant control his anger. And he's talked about how violent his brother is before. So I bet it runs in the family
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>>135095905

This. At the end of the day it's just rationalization to avoid having to question their own beliefs and actions. You can feel the cognitive dissonance coming from that post.
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KEK AND TEA FUCKING BURIED!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-NxtOVtmo4
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>>135095905
Well, thats the thing, the """Skeptic Community""" largely really aren't that different from SJWs. Most of them want the same thing as the SJWs, they just disagree on tactics.

Thats one of why the fracturing is happening, as the right leaning people in said """community""" are distancing themselves from them as they realize that they don't really have similar objectives, and in many cases, the objectives of those like Sargon or Kraut are diametrically opposed to their own.
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>>135096581
that guy's content is great. Just needs to cut down the length and he'd get more views

Also, isnt it ironic how often Kraut posts these lefty/pol/ memes?
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>>135096811

Well they deny reality and smugly sit there championing the destruction of their own societies and living standards.

It's astounding arrogance.
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>>135087814
Oh boy, the 'skeptic' 'community'. What a bunch of poseurs. It's like their every opinion is predicated on what seems superficially reasonable.
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>>135097051
every time they debate someone from the altright, they rarely come out as the clear winner and that's assuming they dont outright lose.

But they think they know better because they havent taken a position on race
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>>135093209
>shame on Kraut, he's much better than this.
How? He constantly has these private circlejerks where he and some people try to ruin someone's channel/life, like what happened with Edgy, and I'm pretty sure there were others.
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>>135087814
>posting in a shareblue divide and conquer thread

>HEY GUYZ, DON'T YA HATE THAT NORMIES ARE GETTING RED PILLED???

>DON'T YA HATE THAT THE MAINSTREAM IS WAKING UP TO OUR SIDE???

>DON'T YA HATE NATIONALISM IS RISING???

>WE MIGHT ACTUALLY WIN OR SOMETHING!!!

>DOESN'T THAT SUCK???

>WE SHOULD STOP THIS!!!

>DON'T YOU AGREE???

Character assassination is when you try to make a person irrelevant because you destroyed the perception of their personality. You try to make it so nobody likes them anymore, so nobody listens to them anymore. You do it when you see that person as a threat.

You can spot it when there's clear spam about a certain person, and asking who benefits from that spam. e.g. /pol/ doesn't benefit from abandoning Lauren Southern. She is starting thousands of normies down the redpill path.

Shareblue/antifa does benefit. This is a shareblue character assassination attempt, using stuff they think will get /pol/ to hate her. Lying about her being jewish is one way. Calling her a slut/racemixer is another. Calling her a coward or weakling is another. etc. etc.

It's to shareblue's benefit if every alt-light and alt-right personality gets entirely discredited so /pol/ no longer has any big voices on their side, and normies stop getting redpilled, which is why they do it.

You cunts are here to try to neutralize /pol/ and the other places you brigade before the 2018 and 2020 elections with your retarded divide and conquer tactics.

All that means is that nationalism is going mainstream, something that should be encouraged at all levels, and it also means you commie pieces of shit are losing bigger than shit.

Die in a fire.
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>>135087814
When is the faggot ape gonna rape him again?
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>>135097298
Blackacidlizzard (youtuber) claims Kraut does this thing where he says whatever furthers his argument, even if it makes no sense visa-vie what the other person is saying.

Seems to make sense

>>135097361
Kraut isnt redpilling anyway whatsoever with this behavior

>>135097434
Ape is in a tough spot. He is friends with Kraut and Edgy
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>>135096952
>isnt it ironic
ironic isn't the word, suspiciously coincidental
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>>135095559
I followed them for maybe like a week and these interactions between the two are comedy gold with how much of a sperg Kraut actually is off video.

Cedarwood confronts him with things on a consistent basis and Kraut temporarily mutes him or blocks him "for discipline", and then the cycle repeats when Cedarwood out-autisms him again.
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>>135087814
Let the subscriber count drop
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What's this?
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>>135097051
Thats not what I mean.

I'm saying that Sargon and such want the same end goals as the SJWs but just disagree on how to get there. Why else do you think that they so readily welcomed Laci Green into their group despite her changing literally none of her views? And then compare what they did to people like Rage or Edgy Sphinx or such.

Have you ever wondered why, despite openly admitting that the SJWs won't engage for dialogue and debate with them but the Alt Right will, they don't even make an effort to reach out to them and just deride them? I realized when Laci Green was welcomed so readily; They're actually pissed about this. They /want/ the SJWs to reach out to them
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>>135097694
well, Kraut and Leftypol arent paragons of fitness. That's why I meant ironic.

It is also suspiciously coincidental desu
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>>135097699
Looks like most of this stuff happens on twitter, I don't follow that shit, so it's only when a drama livestream happens that I get some insight into it, but it just seems to me that Kraut is one of these really cliquey types (I don't know who's in his clique though), similar to Armored Skeptic/Shoe and their clique and what they did to CrazyHair.
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>>135097672
He's been pretty out spoken about the skeptic community lately. Having met him once in that /pol/ discord, It wouldn't surprise me if he took a step further than his friends.
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>>135087814
This girl is a rotten anti christian athetist. She is an alt lite rent seeking cunt. She is a degenerate and had to be shut down. We are better without her
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>>135090049
>it's another 'bitch about the ulterior motives of the source authors' video
fuck off
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>>135097840
Sargon is full of shit. He wants a free market system but claims he doesn't believe different ethnic groups have different IQ distributions because of genetics. This doesn't alter the facts. So when the free markets, as it will, rewards different groups on average according to averages, Sargon's previous belief that IQ averages don't differ will lead him and others like him to conclude it must be caused by racism or some other sort of systemic cause and will no longer support the free market.

This is the primary problem with these people.
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>>135087814
who is this she's hot
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>>135098211
okay, but why not also strike against someone who is even worse than her from our perspective?

Also, she deleted her patreon before she made the race video. Not much of a rent seeker
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>>135097840
The truth is simple, they think they can "save" SJWs because they know the alternative is us and if it came to it they'd all get the bullet
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>>135098295
*market singular
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>>135087814
fuck off
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>>135098295
he also thinks it wont matter to black people if they keep getting collectively out-competed, they'll just accept their lot in life.

Which is ridiculous. People actually DO want some equality of outcome, they just dont think that's what they're asking for. They think they're asking for justice
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>>135098328
We have many enemies and they all must be defeated. This girl was an easier target because she lives in a place where saying the kind of stuff she does is illegal
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>>135097839

He called her a dumb cunt or something like that. Typical autismo rage
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Shaun and Jen BTFO out all your stupid /pol approved e-celebs while Hbomberguy provides some nice laughs.
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>>135097840
This. They have very similar ideals about society, and the reason they go after SJWs is only because they think their methods move things further from that ideal and divide people rather than bring them together.

>>135098295
He actually does think IQ plays a part, but he's mealy-mouthed about it.
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>>135098317
she made a video on race realism, Kraut tried to get her fired. She did get fired, but not because of him so his excuse is "no harm no foul right?"
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>>135098211
is'nt much of the alt-right agnostic/atheist?
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>>135098577
He lied about the XYEinzelfall map. Whatever BTFOing hes doing is really shit.
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>>135098379
Yeah except the alt right wouldn't give people like Sargon the bullet.

Alt righters are incredibly reasonable and willing to entertain ideas they disagree with and are way more personable than any SJW. Hell, they're easier to get along with if you disagree with them than most 'radical centrists' and 'skeptics' in my experience. This is why Sargon's false equivalencies between SJWs and the alt right annoy me so much.
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>>135098295
You're not wrong. This is why Sargon is becoming increasingly more openly hostile towards the Alt Right; He realizes what will happen already.

But like you said, he is full of shit. Just look at how while condemning rightly condemning Socialism, he then admits to being pro social policies.
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>>135098646
She still have a youtube channel or did she sperg out?
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>>135098577
in the video he actually conceded Brits would become a minority btw. Which is the whole point.

He just thinks it wont matter
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>>135098654
It also has some christians.
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>>135098577
Fuck off back to leftypol, faggot. You're not fooling anymore.
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>>135098654
Those people must be purged then. Christianity built europe. A white nationalist must be christian
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>>135098744
this all happened a month ago, a week ago she said some personal consequences are keeping her from doing youtube so she deleted it

idk if that's a sperg out or not
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>>135087814
Post feet
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>>135098712
>Alt righters are incredibly reasonable and willing to entertain ideas they disagree with

This is what /pol really, truly believes. Sorry, you guys are just as bad, if not worse these days, than the SJWs you harp on.

Only thing you're good for is memes. Outside of that, it's just complain, complain complain.
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>>135098577
Nope
>>135095617
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>>135098844
pity
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>>135098815
>>135098654
it is compliant with Christianity. But it's main focus is race, which is reasonable imo
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>>135098121
It's actually better that you don't follow it. Shit is not actually worth it.
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>>135098654
depending on how you define alt-right

most just don't talk about it. I'm somewhat alright with them.

However I have no respect for these explicitly anti-Christian morons such as Rage or Styx.
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>>135098844
nah its not. britain has hate speech laws, maybe thats what shes talking about.
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>>135098889
Kraut debated one of the guys he is complaining about in his video. He got BTFO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UplCX7v-yA

I wonder if he will delete this desu...
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>>135098914
Race and religion. The white race needs christanity. Our race is sick because we have lost our religion. We are suffering from soul sickness
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>>135098998
switzerland is where she lives
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>>135098749
because it won't. Identity politics is cancer on both sides of the coin.
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>>135087814
Daily reminder that Kraut is part Jewish.
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>>135098468
This is why I support nationalism. If different groups get unequal outcomes it will almost inevitably lead the losers to try and capture state power so they can 'equalize' things. For me it's not a matter of racial separation, it's a conclusion based on my observations of human nature.

>>135098598
He admits IQ matters. He agreed with the Polish politician on this when it comes to women. But he constantly strawmans 'race realists'. He recently said something about race realists not wanting to allow blacks to get jobs or something which showed me he must be suffering major cognitive dissonance.
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>>135098766
>neo-jews
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>>135098577

Please keep relying on Shaun and Jen to "btfo" alt-right arguments. The guy is a total mess and dishonest to his core. Hopefully he will have a debate with an alt-right person at some point and get completely destroyed.
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>>135099050
and that would be agreed with. There are pagans and atheists. Pagans are small, atheists concede faith seems to be necessary even if they dont believe
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>>135097840

So your point is that they were never /ourguys/ and are just trying to tidy up the embarrassing parts of their movement until they can install glorious gommunism. Makes sense.

Kraut went full SJW here and almost none of the "skeptics" are pushing back at him. So they all tacitly agree with him and is methods.

I'm starting to understand the significance of what you're proposing.
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>>135091830
>>135092798
The Polish are irrelevant anyways, in the long-term. There's no chance that these people will stay in the UK in 15-20 when the non-white population increases, and there are less financial incentives.
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>>135099050
agreed. There is no room for anti-Christian elements in any movement of mine
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>>135099117
*racial separation for its own sake

And I support ethno-nationalism on a finer scale than that since race is too broad to be useful.
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>>135099155
he'll pick someone he knows is stupid is the issue. He wouldnt debate someone like Braving Ruin
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>>135099158
They will believe or they will be purged. There is no hope at all for non whites. Whites who do not believe will be given a chance to repent.
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>>135098654
Other than being opposed to Islam for obvious reasons, the Alt Right does not have a unifying belief on religion. Its simply not the focus, because its a debate that doesn't matter to the goal of the alt right.
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>>135099295
okay, get on that
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Where is our resident anti-sjw ancap 1/8 jewish sister fucker to tell us about youtube cryptofascists and how white identity is problematic?

I refuse to believe that he sleeps.
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>>135099026
that's because people in the alt-right (and this forum in general) get absolutely BTFO in almost every debate they have.

Why do you think they revere people like Sargon and other e-celebs? Those people just repeat the same talking points. There's not debate.

Give me a debate between someone who is a career professional, like James Stavridis or any of the people who write on FP and one of these alt-right weirdos like Stephan "Frozen is The death of Modern Society" Molyneux.

It will never happen, because they rely on their base seeing them never get btfo.
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>>135099326
they think faith is needed to unify. And they are fine with Christianity as long as it isnt using immigration to fill its pews like some Catholic Churches do
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>>135099295
>There is no hope at all for non whites

fuck off. I'd rather have a Christian Arab than a white atheist friend
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>>135098889

>you aren't getting banned/fired/harassed/downvoted for posting that

really activates my almonds
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>white christianity
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>>135099484
>Free speech only applies when I agree with it!!

back to ribbit plz
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>>135099428
you're using a hypothetical debate with a professional to say that altrighters lose debates with the skeptic community? Even when I gave an example of a prominent skeptic getting thrashed?
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>>135098889
They sure do complain, but I've never seen the level of straight up sperging out and denial of conversation that SJWs epitomize.

At most I've heard second-hand stories of students calling stuff like a sexist interpretation of classical literature bullshit SJW stuff in the classroom.
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Someone who is not white is incapable of being good. Someone who does not believe in God is incapable of being good.
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How long until Sargon says that people should leave kraut alone because of muh community?

Has he already?
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>>135087814
this has been really funny the septic community has choose an odd hill to die on
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>>135098733
I think he got in over his head. He's 38 or something and if you listen to the books he's reading right now, he's a good 10-20 years behind schedule and he's already talking to a huge audience. He's established positions before he's even had a chance to read and form naturally.
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>>135099471
No you fuck off. We do not need sand niggers. They are degenerate. Christian arabs are no better than muslim arabs and jews. They are heretics who worship a desert demon named yahweh
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>>135099428

But Stephan isn't alt-right. You might be retarded.
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>>135099628
children don't believe in god
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Post her feet
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>>135099755
(You)
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>>135099801
Children are like animals. They aren't really good or evil
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>>135099552

>you still aren't getting banned/downvoted/fired/harassed for posting a dissenting opinion

Let that really sink in for a minute.
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>>135099552
I'm not sure if your're stupid or not, but his point was that you aren't being shut down literally for having a dissenting opinion, people are just talking to you.
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>>135099185
They won't push back for what Kraut did. just look at the Candid debacle months ago. Sargon actively did everything he could to cover for the people in his clique who supported Candid. When he did the stream with Harmful Opinions on it, his statements contradicted what he said on Twitter(For those unaware: On Twitter he had said he watched all of Harmful's videos on it and hand waved away what he was saying, but when he streamed with Harmful, he flat out said he didnt' really watch his videos at all).
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>>135099727
he's stayed out of it so far, I think he realises he has too much to lose considering he is the "big scalp" of the community
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>>135099212
Polish and EU migrants are already more transient than Non-EU migrants. it was even mentioned in the sources they were talking about
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Kraut is deleting comments according to both Cedarwood and Braving Ruin now
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>>135099428
Vox Day debates professionals enough. Just go to his blog and look that shit up. He's not as popular here as he probably should be but whatever.

For someone who isn't alt right but rapes leftists for fun you can also check out Nassim Taleb.
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>>135099894
Those arabs are not christians. Only whites can be christian. It is our religion. A man can call himself a woman just like an arab can call himself a christian.
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>>135087814

Where's he from? That accent is annoyingly contrived

>trying to affect a well spoken English accent while pronouncing 'th' as 'f'
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>>135099732
>if you listen to the books he's reading right now
It's funny how it takes him like a year to read one book, and he talks about it in every single video for a year, now he even has to read the book of the year on a livestream to make himself read it or otherwise he's too lazy to do it.
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>>135100120
>>135100120
it is an affectation we think

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-NxtOVtmo4
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>>135099729

I don't think the skeptics understand the gravity of the situation right now. Kraut won a battle but absolutely smashed his credibility in the process. Everyone not coming out against him is smashing theirs at the same time.

The skeptic community are now the SJW and I don't think they get it yet.
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>>135100065
Vox day is a spic. He is no friend of the white man
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>>135099950
He probably won't comment on it and just pretend to ignore it.

He tried covering for the """Community""" with the Candid incident and that didn't work out well.
Hes probably just gonna hope it blows over and he won't have to say anything.
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>>135100458
he did not win but sure they are SJW lite like the alt right and alt lite
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>>135090049
>Shaun and Jen

Opinion disregarded.
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>>135100476
Hes only 1/3 spic. Hes also 1/3 white and 1/3 American Indian.
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>>135099940

It's their own grave because they're using the same tactics they claim to condemn. We've found their sacred cow.
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>>135100207
It's funnier when he will quote from his current book and treat it like an full argument.

Every time he quotes Aristotle as if that is some sort of I Win button I turn off the video. It's not like he quotes and uses citations, he'll straight up say shit like 'Aristotle refuted this idea therefore it's wrong.' He's literally too stupid to realize this is a mistake. I can't stand the lack of rigor.

At least when I watch someone like Styx ranting it's all in good fun.
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>>135100726
I don't know why he makes the distinction. He is mestizo
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>>135100476
He's not particularly friendly in general but I've learned a lot about how to carry myself in debates and also have gotten great reading recommendations from his blog. I discovered Taleb there and Taleb is the best. I instantly gain respect for people who've read all of Taleb's books.
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>>135100670

I think in his mind he won. He gloated about getting her to "ragequit" when he doxxed her and attacked her livelihood for having a different view.
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>>135101035
You should be careful about admiring non whites. You wouldn't want to start having affection for them
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>>135100765

>he also enjoys the 10.2 inches
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>>135100873
Because we aren't bound by the language of Spanish conquerors. More specificity is fine with me.
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>>135101127
I'm already 1/4 Lebanese so I'm not white enough for /pol/. Even though their DNA is closer to Europeans than people realize.
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>>135101233
To me it's like saying you are white, asian and hapa. If you mix yellow, blue and green you just end up with green
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Why is it that all "political commentators" on youtube fall into one of three categories?

1) insufferable progressive millennial "skeptic" atheist with a nasally voice who hides behind an animal avatar
2) slightly less insufferable "center-X leaning" civic nationalist/lolbertarian in complete denial about race
3) "I promise I'm not a white nationalist" white nationalist who throws a hissy fit like a child at the first sign of controversy

I honestly can't think of a single youtuber who I would proudly call /ourguy/.
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Kek

I love his veiled threat about making more videos about the alt right as if anyone gives a fuck.

The dude would still be sitting on 6k sub if it was not for other youtubers like AIU who shouted him out which he then stabbed in the back.
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>>135100873
Crusader-kun is right. I like Vox, but terms exist for a reason, and that is to describe things.
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>>135101420
Braving Ruin, Alternative Hypothesis. Still small though
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>>135101351
Sorry but the line in the sand is europe. It has to be drawn some where. Making exceptions for sand niggers just wouldn't be fair to all the good whites out there
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>>135100458
>Kraut won a battle
Not even close
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>>135101455
he's just gonna lie a lot. He's done it before. He's already blaming the altright for the poor reception this is receiving
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>>135101420
tbf you won't find them on YouTube, as soon as they'd name the Jew or say the 14 words their channel would be gone instantly
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>>135101420
Because those are the officially endorsed positions that you're allowed to have.
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>>135101036
well feminists in their own minds win and that is the best part the lack of any awareness form him and fans the best thing he could do is say sorry and delete the channel but nope


their community will die in the coming year or so it does not generate a viable solution or new ideias even try to counter the alt right or any white nationalists
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>>135101503
Yeah but the Levant isn't sand nigger except for Muslims who migrated from the sand. The Christian Levantine natives are sea niggers. Travel by sea was more accessible than travel over the mountains and into the interior.
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>>135101420
There are plenty, allot of people have outgrown the skeptic cucks because they never want to broach the issue of race unless its to call out race realists as evil racist.

I wish someone who spoke mandirin could shut them the fuck up because while the west shy's away from racial differences the Chinese are going at it full ball and they are making some pretty neat discoveries.
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>>135098211
While I know in my head that this is correct, she still makes my pants tighter.
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>>135087814

I think both Kraut and RAS are right.

Obviously black people understand the basics of time, as to what time it currently is and events that correlate with that time, such as nightfall. But I don't know if they can really think far, far into the future and see the consequences of their actions. The simply just live more in the moment than others.
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>>135101655
their solution is to poison the well against nationalists
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>>135092975
That screenshot honestly seems fake as fuck.
Seriously seems like the Finnish guy was posting and replying to himself on his phone
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>>135101716
why though

she's "kinda cute" at best imo
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>>135101552
Obviously, its just damage control. I mean anyone who followed this on both sides knows he is lying about edgy.

He knows he is lying and is just mitigating the damage to his sub count
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>>135098598
I'm convinced that sargon is fully redpilled on race, but doesn't want to threaten his video income so goes along with the political correctness. He sticks with the safe topics but just edgy enough to draw an audience.
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>>135101724
did Rage actually say all blacks dont understand time? Or is it a situation wherein she spoke in what seem like absolutist terms but without thinking?
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>>135101694
I don't care. They aren't white europeans. They don't look like me and they have weird names. I don't care if their ancestors were """white""". Today they are not and their non white ancestry marks them as degenerates
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>>135101795
I'm well aware. I have a thing for pale brunettes that think they're smarter than they actually are.
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>>135088246
Aussie criminals such retards this is why we put you on that fucking sand rock, how else are we going to redpill the fatherland? She is the German Lauren who had immunity because she lives in Switzerland, the Swiss never deport their citizens and they don't have weird hate speech laws like Germany.
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>>135101903
what about albanians
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>>135101854
No she didn't. Watch her "race is real" video for yourself if you're interested.
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>>135101854
She never said that, the daily stormer article she cited said that but the daily stormers writers are all 40 year old retards who make good use of absurdity in their writing.

I doubt even the author literally believed that.
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>>135101767
wont work really as shit gets worse and they do not move forward
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>>135087814
I hated Kraut since i first heard of him. What a dishonest, smug cuck. He pretends to be 'skeptic' and anti sjw but i dont think he really is.

In the Antifa video about the G20 riots he he said something like 'right wing violence (in germany) in the last years has always been more problematic/higher than left wing violence, but...'. which is completely untrue. They just count 'forbidden symbols' as right wing violence and compare it with attacks on police / burning down cars / attacking afd politicians. So either hes a complete idiot who doesnt know about it (doubt it since everyone knows) or he is a lying faggot who pretends to be one of us but is actually a paid shill.

All his arguments basically are
>yeah the left is pretty bad right now BUT WAIT MUH HITLER
Even i sometimes do that and i am 1599% brownpilled.
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>>135102049
Since they are european they will be given a chance to prove their whiteness
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>>135100726
spic means he's nearly half indian (0.495)
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>>135102112
I thought there was a massive problem with skinhead in east germany during the eighties?
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Kraut and leftypol are just useful idiots. We can use them as a tool to take down our enemies
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>>135101724
What you're describing is common throughout Africa, and it is in fact a problem there moreso than anywhere else, but it's also one that afflicts poorer people around the world.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/most-americans-cant-handle-a-500-surprise-bill/

This has nothing to do with a concept of time. It has to do with a combination of human empathy and human laziness. When you get right down to it, the animal your brain rides around in CRAVES being lazy. It'd love to just sit around fucking pretty girls and eating whatever it can, without competition or fear and (let's be honest), your brain hates how much it loves that idea.
It's also really fucking hard to turn your own siblings or parents down when they want to "borrow" money (if you do this once, you might as well just think of it as giving them that amount of money and then having them drive by every month to let you touch it).
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>>135102299
no you arent fuck off seen you before here shill they are the enemies
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>>135101823
Nah, at most, hes willfully ignorant. Even if he does realize the truth he will never accept it because it goes against what he believes in.
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>>135087814
Does she poo in the loo yet?
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>>135087814
This "Kraut" guy is a bluepilled idiot. Holy shit.

He doesn't understand that the references about "negro culture" are based on actual observations between cultures. It's basic uncensored anthropology about which cultures had a sense of "time" and which had more psychopathic behavior and their varying expressions of "morality."

He said, asking a black man for the time debunks those observations!? That's a ludicrous statement. It shows he has zero comprehension and is perhaps even mindless about the context of western civilization. No one's arguing negroids are "incapable" of understanding time in the context of western civilization but that "time" as an abstract concept is less likely to ever be born out of a negroid society in isolation from non-negroid societies.

"B-b-but that's raaaaycist!"
>Communists see all real-world observations, research, and uncensored statistical analysis that upsets their delusional fantasy as racist.

How illogical can his mechanical voice get?
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>>135101706
this
its the fact that they just offer nothing they just bitch about shit and offer no solution they will not even consider a solution that is not liberal or right wing
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>>135102434
Whenever a foreign supervisor would moan about the natives not being on time we would joke and say "Its african time"
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Anything new?
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>>135102455
We have many enemies. Why not trick one enemy into defeating another?
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>>135102256
No, certainly not in the 80s ...
By problems you mean white german males coming together and doing something thats not against the law? Something thats completely normal in any other country? Like going to a concert? Yes? Because thast they people they call NAZI here.

There are LESS THAN 100 VIOLENT CRIMES committed every year by GERMANS because of RIGHT WING REASONS.
THER ARE 700.000 VIOLENT CRIMES IN GERMANY EVERY YEAR.
1/3 OF THESE ATTACKS IS COMMITTED BY NON-GERMANS WHILE ONLY BEING 1/10 OF THE POPULATION.
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>>135094651
to hide his shitty (((features)))
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>>135102434
>>135102773
>>135101724
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What sucks is Kraut and friends could have opened a much larger, fascinating discussion including loads of other people on things like Africans and time, but they just choose to laugh it off like it isn't even worth their time
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What is his endgame?
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>>135103186
Eventually get dental insurance
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>>135103275
isnt he in Europe?
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>>135103003
the ching chongs did not have a clue about what they were getting in to.
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>>135103186

fading into obscurity like Spoony or DSP.
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>>135087814
>avatarfagging as (((((Heinrich Heine))))))
>not a kike shill
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>>135103178
Because it runs contrary to their beliefs and goals. They can't admit or cede any ground to race realism because it will be the end of what they're trying to do.
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>>135103003
>>135103362
that was hilarious seeing him try to make something with niggers
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>>135097840
Franchesca Ramsey had them pegged when she said they were losers who were just looking for friends, and they didn't actually believe in anything. Once she realized what they were, she stopped trying to bribe them and just started laughing at them. And then they proved her point by acting like their BFF had stabbed them in the back.
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>>135103178
I've never heard Kraut speak before this thread. So I'll ask.

What's the point? His lack of logic is that of a communist. Is he a communist? Centrist-leftist? Why is anyone caring about this guy's opinions outside of his unscrupulous, undermining animosity of Rage?
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>>135103336
He has bad teeth
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>>135104101
yea but surely he can get dental
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I suspect this thread is done desu
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>>135103595
Thats another point to what I was saying about how they really want to work with the SJWs.
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>>135096581
This was utterly devastating. I'd feel bad for Kraut if he wasn't such a piece of shit.
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>>135103595
C-C-C-O-L-D
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>>135088246
Didnt lauren get btfo by meme debater destiny? Why do people care about her?
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>>135105101
No. Destiny lost that debate by a mile.
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>>135104845
I've stopped feeling bad for Sargon and his crew like Kraut for months. Ever since the Candid debacle opened my eyes to the true nature of all of them, and stuff like this and many others just reaffirm that.
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>>135105243
what's their true nature
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>>135105806
Cuckoldry
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>>135105189
what was it about?
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This Kraut character seems to have mental problems or an interesting business model, all I ever hear about is the recent e-celeb shit throwing fight
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>>135105806
being shills with no position in anithing other then muh freesspeech and cultural libertarianism
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>>135106118
Immigration and muslims
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>>135105189
>finnanon defending lauren to the end
classic
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Saying "I didn't get her fired" is the most disingenous thing ever. His only out is that other people contacted them also but he still brought their attention to it so the only reason he isn't responsible for it is pure luck. It's like a couple of people shooting someone and then you shooting them as well and then calling the coroner and telling everyone, don't worry guys, they were already dead.
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>>135106712
What is wrong with using leftist tactics? Obviously the reason the left uses them is because they are effective.
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>>135106860
Because the """Skeptic Community""" claim to be above them.
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>>135087814
I don't subscribe to this guy but I gotta go with him on this one.
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>>135104698
They're really excommunicated leftists who want back into the cult. They saw Franny and Laci as their way in.
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>>135106860
>What is wrong with using leftist tactics?
Ask him. He's criticised people for using them.
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B R O K E N
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Kraut is a degenerate so it's good to see him get attacked. But I still think he did a good thing by taking down rage after storm.

It is good that our enemies are fighting each other
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>>135107389
I don't see Rage as an enemy. Anyone willing to openly talk about and promote Race and IQ differences is an asset.

I firmly believe that Race and IQ is the most important redpill.
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>>135107573
She is a rotten atheist and a rent seeker
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>>135107707
I don't care if someone wants to make money. I'm a capitalist, not a commie.

I care more about what they're saying and whether or not they're genuine in their beliefs than if they want to make a few extra bucks.
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>>135107707
she deleted her patreon a while ago because she didnt need it
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>>135107912
If we have no standards we will never succeed. If white nationalism just becomes another business opportunity then purpose will take a second place to profit
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What a fucking retarded kike.
>lol every black man who has ever used a watch has DEBUNKED this RACIST daily stormer article
What a dishonest piece of shit.
Using a clock doesn't mean understanding time.
Time is more complicated than a piece of equipment that shows you a number.
What a piece of shit.
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>e celeb
>caring

My sons, you have fallen so far.
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>>135108031
She took it down after she made enough money to pay for her (((college))). How generous of her
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>>135108083

She didn't make that much money from it you lying faggot. She probably made less than minimum wage from it for just a couple months.
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>>135108083
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>>135108033
Which is why I said I care about whether their ideas are genuine or not.
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The like/dislike ratio isn't going very well for him lol
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>>135108361
I don't think she is... but fine. I still think we should be concerned about white nationalism becoming just another business opportunity though.
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>>135107294
Hero we need, not the one we deserve
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>>135099428
anon misunderstood, I was saying Kraut got BTFO when he debated David
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>>135108574
>I still think we should be concerned about white nationalism becoming just another business opportunity though.
You only seem concerned about it whenit comes to women.
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>>135108575
Lets hope he uses his powers for good
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>>135108815
>>135108574
Well, women do cash in with patreon and such. But you're right
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>>135109008
>you're right
I'm right that yor concern about "the movement" and people profiteering from it is disingenous and that you just have a problem with women?
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>>135108815
Women do tend to be less genuine than men. A woman can make a youtube channel, recite some unoriginal info, put up a patreon and make a quick buck
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>>135108575
So why did he delete the tweet if he doesnt regret it?
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>>135109180
I think what Hemmingway said is apt, "women are ideological in a way that men can scarcely grasp". So they tend to complicate matters
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>>135109211
True, but women generally try and avoid subjects that will get them ostracized
Not saying it doesn't happen, but women on average don't go outside of the mainstream.
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>>135109211
>Women do tend to be less genuine
Your concern wasn't whether they were genuine it was about profiteering and the movement becoming a business but thanks for further proving that you have an issue with women and you concern with "the movement" is just a veil.
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>>135109582
It can be more than one reason you know
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>>135109582
Too play devil's advocate, while I don't necessarily agree with what he is saying in this instance, there is always a danger with women in a movement as they on average do try and take it over. Which is why I am always most concerned with whether said person is genuine.
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>>135108451
he's lost 1000 subs
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>>135108451
wow, it used to have a hard time breaking 50% when this began
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>>135109765
You're backtracking now. The person you replied to said they were more concerned about credibility when you mentioned "rent seeking" and you went on to talk about how you're concerned about "the movement" becoming a business and when i mentioned that you only seem concerned about it when it comes to women you went on to talk about how we'reless genuine than men so you aren't really concerned about profiteering - you just have an issue with women.
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>>135099574
try to tell a nazi that his pagan symbolism is just misusing the culture of others for his political agenda and they'll freak out like actual SJWs. Just with more "ironic meme-sperging". They don't even try to have a conversation most of the time. Just "buzzwords and funny pics so you lost the argument"
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>>135108033
people like you are the reason I despise Christianity nowadays as an ex-catholic. You're just as bad and uneducated as "moderate" muslims and I bet you're either a brown southern euro or american.
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