Ask a communist anything

>>135071709
you scared of heights?

cut or uncut?

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Why are commies so god damn beta?
I have never seen a modern communist that is even remotely alpha
The girls are even more alpha than the males

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>>135071709
You have disgraced your homeland

>>135071960
No
>>135072128
Cut, but by my own choice

Would you rather commit suicide or kill yourself?

>>135071709
why?

>>135072153
I assume you think to be alpha you need to shoot guns, be a pretentious chad, and rape women.

To answer the question all I can say is. I'm certainly not beta. And plenty of my comrades are not betas either

>>135071709
Do you live on a commune?
If no why not?

>>135071709
Why are you a nigger. I see your nigger thumb, explain yourself.

>>135071709

How is communism possible in a globalized US?

The means of production are overseas.

Banks wealth is in 1s and 0s and transferable with a mouse click.

Woo one would want to eat at The People's McDonald's because the drooling monkeys at the counter are now in charge.

This is like a reset button and lots of people are going to try and kill you for what little or lot they have.

Because it's still better then most of the shit holes that actually tried and failed to implement your ideology.

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>>135072485
Lol what the fuck. You couldn't act more like a self-hating faggot even if you tried.

>>135071709

I have a similar flag, but communism is fucking aids.

You clearly don't remember even the 90s, let alone the 80s.

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>>135072485
Beta detected

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>>135072485
I doubt this you weak faggot

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Do you fear the nigger samurai?

>>135071709
Gas or firing squad?

Yes goy, it will surely work this time! remember who get's gulaged first: rich and upper middle class

>>135072236
Why does /pol/ shot on leftists for Harry Potter political memes, but loves vidya political memes?
>>135072357
I'd never commit suicide, so I guess kill myself (on accident) would be more likely
>>135072467
Because it's fair? Because it's the best way to achieve world peace? Because it is inevitable in a increasingly techno world?

>>135071709

Does your mom know you're gay?

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>>135071709
Do you prefer feet First or head first?

>>135071709
Alright, I'll bite
1. Why are you a communist?
2. Do you have a job?
3. What is the financial situation of either you or your parents?
4. Do you have aspergers?

>>135072868

She's still doing his laundry, of course she does. Moms know everything.

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>>135071709
How do you feel about NazBols? Have you come to the conclusion that Stalin did nothing wrong and was killed by Jewish doctors?

>>135071709
How is the sixth grade going?

>>135071709
Is the PRC the best model for communism seeing that every other communist revolution has failed?

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>>135073051
>This... this made me laugh

>>135072859
>Because it's fair?
Why should anyone but the weak cari about fairness?
>Because it's the best way to achieve world peace?
By violently seizing the means of production?
> Because it is inevitable in a increasingly techno world?
Wasn't it suppose to be inevitable in the industrial world?

>>135071709
Aren't you too young to be on this website?

>>135071709
Why won't you kill yourself?

>Ask a middle schooler anything.

>>135072859
Harry Potter memes =/= vidya meme just posted because the people who use HP memes Unironically use them as a comparison with real world events where as the anon who posted that was just using it for the quote

>>135072594
Sort of, I live with 7 other people in a 2 bedroom apartment
>>135072641
Full globalization is necessary in the long run. One world government will increase productivity and allow everyone to prosper

>>135072485
haha rape women? what the fuck are you talking about? just shut the fuck up you sound like a complete and utter faggot and you dont even know it

>>135073257
>Sort of, I live with 7 other people in a 2 bedroom apartment
Do you all run a business together?
If no why not?

>>135073257

I name the Jew!

>>135071709
How old are you?

>>135071960
Under fuckin rated.
Nice, leaf

>>135073257
>Full globalization is necessary in the long run. One world government will increase productivity and allow everyone to prosper
Why do you cunts view people solely as economic units? You don't see the spiritual needs of the people whatsoever

>>135073257
>Full globalization is necessary in the long run. One world government will increase productivity and allow everyone to prosper
Internationalism can only work in a world of socialist nations engaging in cooperation and respecting national sovereignty and borders. What you're describing is utopianism.

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Would you accept your role as a poor beet farmer in a cold climate for the greater good?

>>135073498
This is a valid statement
>>135073510
This

>>135071709
Are you disabled?

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>>135072312
>>135071709
>>135072485
>>135073257
this is literally the most Jewish persona I have ever read, on or off of /pol/.

Good effort.

>>135072312
> Cut, but by my own choice
Why would you do such a thing to yourself?

>>135073498
No what he is describing is a one world Stalinist dictatorship ran by UN and Merkel and co which is looming darkly in the horizon.

Why has communism failed miserably in every nation it has been tried--from the USSR to China to Cuba to Vietnam to North Korea to Cambodia to Venezuela-- piling up ~150-200 million corpses.

Were none of those "real communism?"

>>135073634
>>I'm a commie AMA
>are you disabled
I have a question for you. Are you retarded?

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>>135073888
Nice trips mein Jude.

>>135071709
So under communist rule:
When you finish school you have to go work wherever they want you and do whatever they assign you, or else your disobedience will be met with hash punishment. Even if they assign you a job some shithole very far away from your family and friends like in Siberia. Basically you are their slave.
If you try to do anything even remotely entrepreneurial no matter how minor or small, they put you in prison.
You'll be a slave in abject poverty forever and it's impossible to work for anything better because there is absolutely no way to escape.
Why would anyone want that?

>>135073889
Merkel would be killed for being a bourgeois rat. There would be no need for a UN and Stalin did nothing wrong.

>>135073389
>Do you all run a business together?
If no why not?

Because commies don't work? Because profit is evil? Because they already have income through their trust funds?

>>135073970
That's the joke you big fat nothingburger.

>>135073970
it's a valid question. Most commies (who became commies online) are seriously neurotic and jealous of other people.

>>135071709
Why do you believe in a system thought up by a greedy and subversive Jew?

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>>135071709
Greetings comrade.

How do we redpill the masses?

>>135074023
If he did nothing wrong then how come he was assassinated before he could gulag all the jews in soviet union?

>>135074149
Allow the contradictions of capital become too obvious for them to ignore. Full acceleration baby.

>>135074079
Ehh, it's hard to detect tone on the internet
>>135074141
I was implying that commies are disable.d

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hello scholomo

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>>135074268
Good point, this is what REDpilled me

op here, switching to my laptop, sucked trying to respond on my iphone

>>135072622
not a nig, as an american we all have a little nigger in us, even the "whites"
>>135072689
i was born in 93 so....
>>135072757
no
>>135072813
firing squad if i had to choose. assuming you mean how i would want to die
>>135072868
im not gay actually, im like a 2 on the kinsey scale
>>135072962
>do you prefer feet
thats all i read before having to go and jerk off because i am a footfag
>>135072982
1. how else will the world continue to advance without total cooperation?
2. yes, shift manager at BevMo
3. parents own a home, are probably lower middle class in california. i live in apartment with a bunch of people, but am very secure
4. probably
>>135073045
jews are an enemy to all goys, even the communist ones
>>135073147
yes
>>135073193
good people care about those below them, just as you would want those above you to care about you. marx wasnt right about everything
>>135073197
no, 28
>>135073207
no

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Gas yourself you obese mcbacon faggot

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>>135074023
>Stalin did nothing wrong
yeah, nothing wrong with internal genocides, oppressive dictatorship, low income growth, slave labor, and extreme corruption. So glad that your meme ideology (which only exists to shill communism to /pol/) could straighten that out. I sure will be taking posts made under that flag more seriously from now on.

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>>135074231
Because Jewish doctors assassinated him. Look up the "doctors plot".

>>135073634
no
>>135073831
im not jewish
>>135073888
phimosis
>>135073926
"not real communism" is not just a meme my friend
>>135074015
common good

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>>135074536
>muh holodomer

>>135074419
What are you going to do if the system renews itself by shedding most of the worst (((exploiters))) and the quality of life for the proletariat begins to increase again without communism?

>>135074429
Is this fucker for real? All commies will be killed, along with shitskins and kikes on the day of the rope.

>born in 93
>28

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>>135074536
>R^2=0.55

>>135074419
That's a good chart.

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can you have dogs in a communist country? can you eat them when said country colapses like it does every single time?

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>>135074419
>using two different inflation deflators
>Total employee compensation was 66 percent of national income in 1970 and 64 percent in 2006. This measure of the labor compensation share has been remarkably stable since the 1970s. It rose from an average of 62 percent in the 1960s to 66 percent in the 1970s and 1980s, and then declined to 65 percent in the 1990s where it has remained from 2000 until the end of 2007." [2] Thus, there doesn't seem to be much evidence that workers are not benefiting from increased productivity and there is a tremendous amount of evidence that they are.
top kek. economic illiterate who defends anything that satisfies his confirmation bias spotted.

>>135074696
>common good
be impoverished and a slave for your entire life, for the common good.

>>135074804
>>born in 93
>>28
oops

>>135074419
>what is technology and how does it work
Fucking every time.
Yes, a single person is more productive, it's easier to be more productive. You shouldn't get paid more for being able to do multiple menial tasks easier.

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>>135074696
>not real communism isn't a meme
Fuck off
>>135074429
>how else would we achieve cooperation in the world?
Nationalism

>>135071709

Maybe I will interest you because I don't worship george bush and trump like the rest of /pol/ does now, and I take life seriously instead of settling for worthless one liners and vague illusions to tribal allegiance.

What motivates you to self-identify as communist? Are you a marxist? Do you think of yourself as a radical, while at once valuing group and national identity to such an extent that you participate in the consumerist act and purchase a literal flag?

How long is the bread line?

>>135074696
>"not real communism" is not just a meme my friend
didn't you say above "Stalin did nothing wrong?" I assume you've read "The Gulag Archipelago," an educated person like yourself. Even the dedicated French commies like Sartre couldn't refute it since it's so meticulously documented.

So if Stalin did nothing wrong, and the Gulag Archipelago is all accurate, then what does that make you but for a pathetic, larping, laughing stock fucking asshole?

>>135074767
>holodomor denial via population argument
yeah i'll be sure to put that in my "PNGs that disprove everything modern historians believe about x genocide" folder

>>135075129
Go back to redd*t you virtue signaling twat

where do u live? just asking to make sure your...safe

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Why are communist so retarded that they can't meme worth a shit?

>>135075094
>nationalism
so you want a bunch of competing countries who only care about themselves? yeah, thatll work. i only support nationalism when the world has only one nation

>>135075129
>don't worship george bush
You stupid motherfucker, he was the biggest dupe of the Jews since Roosevelt, maybe worse, let the neo-cohens Jew us into Iraq. What the fuck ever gave you the idea anyone here likes or ever liked Bush?

>>135074803
Well the high quality of life for the proles which is beginning to wane has kept the proles satisfied. I guess it would just delay the inevitable as communism is a more efficient and equitable system for the working class.

>>135074917
That's not what the data shows, also nice excel graph. Working overtime for porky I see

>>135075074
Higher cost of living because of technological advancement. You don't see how stagnant wages is a problem? If anything automation should enrich the populace, not enslave them which isn't what we're seeing. Fully Automated Luxury Communism when?

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>>135075315
>Why are communist so retarded that they can't meme worth a shit?

>>135074429
>i was born in 93 so....

LOL. have fun with your "communism", kiddo.

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>>135075315
>Muh snake and helicopter memes
Dam bretty ebin, we should take note

>>135075330
Of all Nations look out for the interests of their own people there will be competition, which leads to advancement in sciences, technology, and quality of life.
Further more, it's a far more practical and ethical form of governing as opposed to subjugating the whole world under one system

>The nation is of God, the empire is of Man, if not be the Devil

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>>135072153
>commies
>beta
Murdering commies was the norm for 150 years and still is. Literally the entire world declared war on commies. The catholic church declared communism bad. And we're still going nowhere.

>bitter the commie's journey and lonely the commie's grave

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>>135075635
Daily reminder to tread on sneks comrade.

>>135071709
When are you going to kys? Asking for a friend

>>135075385
Do you support stateless Anarcho-Communism or State communism.

>>135075763
Good God, you actually think you're anti establishment?

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>>135075635
Fuck, even the meme making fun of our shit is terrible.

>>135071709
>communist
>country of one OP faggot
>communes with self
>seizes his own nads as means of production
>tiny.jpg
>posts on /pol/ using usa flag
>ask me anything because i have no other communists here it is just me ha ha

i remember drinking alcohol underage too
booze depresses you, ruins your ability to interior decorate
>i got a chinese-made flag at the flea market

yeah i got some yard sale shit at a great price too bruh

>>135075385
>that's not what the data shows

meanwhile in reality
>Total employee compensation was 66 percent of national income in 1970 and 64 percent in 2006. This measure of the labor compensation share has been remarkably stable since the 1970s. It rose from an average of 62 percent in the 1960s to 66 percent in the 1970s and 1980s, and then declined to 65 percent in the 1990s where it has remained from 2000 until the end of 2007." [2] Thus, there doesn't seem to be much evidence that workers are not benefiting from increased productivity and there is a tremendous amount of evidence that they are.
is sourced from an actual econ paper
http://www.nber.org/digest/oct08/w13953.html

>working overtime for porky
yeah lol teh j00z porky lulz my opponents are all a nebulous conglomeration of bad guy nazi porkies XD

>implyig you even understand the graph
lmao the fact you still haven't caught on to the fact that the original graph (which was made for obvious ideological purposes) used TWO DIFFERENT inflation deflators says just about everything there is to know about your economic knowledge.

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>>135074536
>quintupling of wages is low income growth

>>135075905
Hahahahaha holy shit, is their geographical knowledge so bad that they have to put the flags of France and Brazil onto a map to signify its location?

>>135071709
will you cry when a breivik guns you down in street?

>>135074419
Odd, the real change takes place in about, what is that, 1970? And the Hart-Celler Act was signed, when was it, 1965? It's almost like flooding your (((job market))) means there's more competition for jobs which means you can pay workers less than you would because the supply outweighs the demand. I'm sure that's just pure coincidence though.
This actually works against (((Communism))) too because (((Communism))) doesn't care where the cogs for the machine come from as long as they are in sync and work, which you'll notice suffers from a similar problem as the (((capitalist))) issue you were trying to get across.
Thanks for a graph to put in my NatSoc folder I guess.

>>135075385
>thats not what the data shows
top fucking kek I can't help but double reply to this idiotic comment that essentially has you saying "no! that's not a real fact!" in response to hard solid facts.

>>135075903
>commies are establishment
I wish. I mean, yeah they totally are, and you should totally murder those disgusting commies :^)

>>135071709
What do you think about social darwinism?

>>135071709
>US Flag and Communist unironically??
I stopped fucking with the hammer and sickle meme years ago when I stopped being naive and realised humanity is flawed, needing reward and hierarchy, that the established order is safer because 'some animals will always be more equal than others'

What's your favorite food?

Oh, wait.

>>135072485
A brain incapable of simple logic should not presume to assume.
He means why are you all loud, 4'2 faggots who run at the first sight of difficulty.

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>>135076006
>USSR official statistics
>not even an aggregation of them, just a specific job whose wage increased
yeah that sure seems like a valid argument to defend an ideology that stagnated the economy of most every country it was implemented in

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>>135076096
I really though a lot of these were just made by LARPing right-wingers to make commies look bad, but I really dug around for commie memes and couldn't find anything much better then this (of course I posting some of the worse ones, but really the better ones are just as bad but harder to mock due to them being just bland).

>>135075341

The open support for nearly all of his policies, both domestic and geopolitical, since the 'trump' phenomenon swept through? People here will tell you they didnt like bush since they grew up watching the daily show, but you are truly blind and deaf faggot if you dont think this is a neo conservative strong hold since the 'trump' revolution. Are you that much of a faggot that you can't handle basic reasoning about empirical policy, and instead think trump is a radical because he was rude to hillary on tv ? Don't waste my time if so.

>>135076112
>>135075074

see http://being-classical-liberal.blogspot.com/2014/02/wages-vs-productivity.html?m=1

the wages vs productivity graph is infamous for its misuse of data.

>>135076583
>stagnated
Actually growth was steady and economic crisis free. The issue was the increasing military spending.

>>135076006
also I like how you're such an amoral edgelord psycho that you don't even care about all the other things

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How will capitalist ever recover?

>>135071709
Looking at how the banner is displayed, you can see that it is drooping in the corners. This is a sloppy attempt at displaying your pride; you will most likely be among the first to be purged when the revolution happens because you clearly are more for yourself than the cause, but it won't happen because lazy fucks like you who can't even hang a crisp banner are in charge of this shit.

>>135072485
Jesus I hope you're joking rn

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>>135076624
What's with the obsession with commie meta-ironic shitposting, this is starting to get weird.

>>135076583

In all fairness, the CIA estimates can't be trusted. And the massive economic explosion that occurred under Stalin cannot be denied, but only occurred due to the dehumanization of the Soviet people. Everything else seems to be fair though.

>>135076951
>according to official USSR statistics, which are universally recognized to be unreliable as a result of government propaganda

>>135075275

Feel free to post again if you have something coherent to say / criticize me with. In the mean time you are nothing more than a dickless coward who has so little self control he spews total white noise shit post into the void because of the most minute external stimulus. Not everyone is so defeated that that they feel the need to 'virtue signal' or pretend to be something they aren't on an anonymous image board you absolutely pathetic faggot.

>>135077401
I want to LARP on pol as a commie every once in a while

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>>135077008
I'm tired of responding to the same bullshit that isn't true, was never true, and will never be true, being regurgitated over and over and over again. Accusing commies of not improving the living conditions of the people is new.

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>>135071709
Do you like the taste of your dads cum?

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>>135071709
Why aren't you a Distributist?

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>>135075980
Wage stagnation is a real thing. Look at this article instead of a heritage think tank BS

>Since 1973, hourly compensation of the vast majority of American workers has not risen in line with economy-wide productivity. In fact, hourly compensation has almost stopped rising at all. Net productivity grew 72.2 percent between 1973 and 2014. Yet inflation-adjusted hourly compensation of the median worker rose just 8.7 percent, or 0.20 percent annually, over this same period, with essentially all of the growth occurring between 1995 and 2002. Another measure of the pay of the typical worker, real hourly compensation of production, nonsupervisory workers, who make up 80 percent of the workforce, also shows pay stagnation for most of the period since 1973, rising 9.2 percent between 1973 and 2014. Again, the lion’s share of this growth occurred between 1995 and 2002.

http://www.epi.org/publication/understanding-the-historic-divergence-between-productivity-and-a-typical-workers-pay-why-it-matters-and-why-its-real/

And "inflation delfators" isn't a real term unless you mean GDP deflator. Anyway the article takes into consideration inflation. And this is just one aspect of it because the cost of living has increased as well.

>>135076583
Still better than under capitalism. Eastern Europe is relegated to unending poverty under capitalism.

>>135077953
Because religion is a spook and needs to be removed.

>>135074419
>t. 13 year old
you're an idiot who hasn't studied economics for more than 10 minutes if you think these two things are in any way related.

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>>135077599
No you stupid cunt, the whole point of your original post was to get people to say how "enlightened" you were, for "not worshipping Trump and Bush like the rest of /pol/"
(despite the fact that most everyone here hates bush and no one outside /ptg/ worships trump as you claim)

You're just a tool looking for pats on the back from an anonymous image board, pretty sad mate

>>135077949
Actually people are fleeing to Cuba for their free education

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCfg72aloYA

They have less opportunity in America than in Cuba top kek

>>135071709
>Ask a communist anything
You're a liar
There are no communists

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>>135078084
>muh basic economics

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>>135078265
>communism
>economics at all

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>>135078057
Distributism isn't inherently religious.

>>135077956
I'm going to ask you seriously now. Do you want me to break down all of the errors made in that article? Do you understand why you can't make a fair comparison while using two different inflation deflators?

I'm pretty sure you're just an economic illiterate with an extreme confirmation bias, to the point where you defend nonsense, much like a Christian apologist

also,
>ad hominem

>>135075763
>rewind fifty years
>communism controls half the globe and has potential to take the world
>le glorious soviet union decides to commit suicide with continuation of mentally retarded economic policies
>today communism controls two irrelevant third world countries and is largely forgotten about minus a handful of angsty teenagers with youtube channels
>"And we're still going nowhere"
Sure seems that way. Lmao

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>>135078340
But what if I want Christian Distributionism?

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>>135078340
>Distributism isn't inherently religious.
>DEUS VULT flag
Yeah, seems legit.

>>135078084
>Productivity shouldn't be rewarded
Are you one of those lazy retards in school that thought they deserve an A for not giving results. Of course productivity should be rewarded with higher wages. 70% of Americans have less than $1000 in savings. The average college grad is in debt for student loans at $30k.

Once you step out of your mothers basement and see how bad the market is you'll come crying to us.

>>135075635
"no step on snek" is legitimately funny. kys.

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>>135078450
Not an argument

>>135078441
You can have that too, I'm just saying that Distributism can be secular, as well. It doesn't really say anything about what the religion (or lack thereof) of the nation ought to be.

>>135072312
>cut, but my own choice.

That's what your Jewish handler wants you to think.

>>135071709
Go fuck urself?

>>135071709
Will you let me shag your girl?

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>>135078358
I'm looking up inflation deflators and can't find anything. Probably some capitalist revisionist bs. Also, if you can't see for yourself that people have less than they had in the 50s idk what else to tell you. Here is another graph showing increasingly higher housing prices over time.

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>>135071709
You can't have a functioning socialist society without high-IQ whites or Asians, and ethnocentrism.

>>135078363
>largely forgotten
>French presidential candidate literallt got the crowd to sing l'Internationale
I understand that you live in a bubble of /pol/ and your own delusions, but if you were paying attention to the outside world, history or anything related to reality, you'd know that in times of crisis, it is the LEFT that grows more. And commie revolutions are the ones that are more likely. Like, say, right now.

>Political Polarization in the American Public
http://www.people-press.org/2014/06/12/political-polarization-in-the-american-public/
>Political polarization among college freshmen is at a record high, as is the share identifying as ‘far left’
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/rampage/wp/2017/05/02/political-polarization-among-college-freshmen-is-at-a-record-high-as-is-the-share-identifying-as-far-left/?utm_term=.030d0d4c04de
>More Americans joining socialist groups under Trump
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2017/02/americans-joining-socialist-groups-trump-170205083615002.html

>>135071960
fpbp

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>>135077956
>Still better than under capitalism. Eastern Europe is relegated to unending poverty under capitalism.
>spend until 1990 communist
>wow all these countries are poor compared to capitalist countries now
top fucking kek. Blame capitalism, that makes sense!

>>135079048
Please archive those

>https://washingtonpost com/news/rampage/wp/2017/05/02/political-polarization-among-college-freshmen-is-at-a-record-high-as-is-the-share-identifying-as-far-left/?utm_term=.030d0d4c04de
https://archive.is/CyL9W
>http://aljazeera com/indepth/features/2017/02/americans-joining-socialist-groups-trump-170205083615002.html
https://archive.is/dX6Lh

>>135078520
productivity has nothing to do with wages. just because your employer bought a machine that made your job 2x as easy and 2x as productive doesn't mean you deserve more. why should you profit off of somebody else's investment, especially when your job just became easier as a result. if anything you should take a pay cut, because your wages are compensation for labor, not productivity.

>>135071709
Can you please my state?

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Kek this triggers the amerifat. My comrade

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>>135079086
>2 out of 3
Hah, get rekt.

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>>135078565

>>135079159
We will increase funding and improve education, since yours is fucked, if your post is anything to go by.

>>135078057
>spook
Kys. Religion is a spook that's the fucking point; you're not the unique one, faggot.

>>135079073
>he fell of the GDP maymay
ayy lmao

>>135079197
Is that you hiding behind the fag flag?

>>135079369
>religion happily enforces and praises the old system and perpetuates injustice
>people seem confused why it's being treated as an enemy
Because it IS.

>>135079248
kek
absolutely postmodern

>>135079342
Please go. I'm tired of your faggotry destroying this beautiful state. Move to a place already destroyed like Mexico or Detroit. Just go.

>>135078117

Whatever faggot, read my words of truth unless you are a coward: You hate bush because you listened to green day before your balls dropped but now you probably support 100% of his policies. /pol/ will tell you that they hate bush but they align with his politics completely. Don't waste my time with your identity politics bullshit telling me you are against bush because you want to rebrand neo conservatism for the next generation.

And yeah of course you post right at me saying no one outside of the constantly alive president donald trump mega threads supports trump on this board. Yeah the trump mega threads which are constantly reposted from reaching the bump limit are definitely the only location where you see trump worshippers on this board. I dont even know what to say to a shameless cuck like you. Have some self respect before you lie to yourself like that.

And you go on to say I posted my ideas looking for pats on the back. Yeah nothing provokes pats on the back like highly controversial and accusatory ideas which denigrate the /pol/ hive mind. I posted that shit because I want to find pussies like you and talk shit to your face. Your brain doesn't work and you have no idea what you are doing with your life.

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>>135079105
So the capitalist who already extracted millions worth of profit from the exploitation of the worker deserves to exploit even more after purchasing more efficient private property. What kind of mental fuckery is this?

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>>135079201
Don't fuck with nordbro commie twink

>>135079342
Will you let me shag your girl? Sharing is caring after all :)

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>>135079560
You really can't fight religion without embracing the authoritarianism that communism supposedly opposes.

>>135078978
>inflation deflators
you know, like how the infamous "wages vs productivity" uses the GDP deflator for the productivity graph, but the PCE deflator for the wages graph?
>hint: the PCE deflator has risen less than the GDP deflator, thus the error understates wage growth

>people had more on average in the 50s
agreed. Mostly because of America's geopolitical position and other results of WW2.

anyway I can see you might be taking me seriously now, I'll make another posts for the rest of the data-hacking that the graph is guilty of

>>135079596
>commies are in charge of any government besides Cuban
niceme.me

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>>135079842
>implying Cuba is communist

>>135079427
>GDP is a meme
please educate me in your advanced ways of measuring productive output mr commie genius man

>>135079614
>muh exploitation
>mutually beneficial trade
yeah, there's another reason why communism is called the "creation science of economics"

>>135079611
I never claimed that I didn't s support Trump, I do, but Not as ardently as you imply, as for bush, I don't even hate him personally but the system that he took part in which has been in exsistence since at least FDR, possibly, and probably, longer.

>>135072485
Commies can't meme

>>135071709
ELIJAH IS THAT YOU?!

>>135079730
>libertarianism means playing ball with enemies of communism and democracy
:^) get in the fucking sack

>>135073889
this is true

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Why dont u evil capitalist hate the environment so much!!!!11

>>135073970
honestly a lot of commies are SJW's and furries, so being disabled comes with the territory nowadays. Now it's a legit question. This is what happens when people only read the bold headline of an ideology and not the fine print.

>>135075330
>competition is bad
Yeah, it's only the thing that drives evolution itself. Totally useless.

Anyone who lives in the United States, which is by and large the most competitive, wealthiest, most technologically innovative country in history, that bitches about how competition between groups is a problem has the self-awareness of a fucking primate. Competition facilitates progress and the more competing groups you have, the better. Deluded, self-proclaimed social engineers, like yourself, attempting to mute the natural phenomena of self-interest has historically killed exponentially more people than the act of self-interest itself. There's a mountain of failed empires you've clearly never heard of.

>>135079614
how many times have you looked up the price of an industrial grade machine? how many times have you tried to secure an angel investment or a loan? how many businesses have you attempted? i'm going to go out on a limb and guess the answer to all three is zero. if you had actually attempted to acquire "the means of production" (such a faggy way to say company), you would realize you don't have to "seize" them (steal them like a nigger) by force. you're a literal retarded nog, grow up.

>>135080460
Don't??

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>>135080360
>"we're not authoritarian guys, we swear!"
>"but if you believe in Jesus you have to die"
>"anyone deviating from the acceptable amounts of atheism will be arrested by the thought police"

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>>135079970
>output
>productive
No, all GDP measures is the amount of money in circulation. And unless you had your head beneath a rock, the West is currently in the firm grip of finance capitalism, not industrial capitalism. So you can just import a lot of labor, give them loadsacredit, and your GDP makes it look like your economy is growing.

>>135079611
This made me smile.

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>>135080666
Religious tolerance is all well and good in a monarchy, but it doesn't belong in a democracy, period. It will always bleed into politics, and Christians will always demand unconditional support for Israel, Muslims will always demand Sharia law, and Jews will always demand to suck freshly circumcised infant penis.

>>135079048
>"you live in a bubble!"
>wapo link
Retard of the day.

>>135077956
>Still better than under capitalism. Eastern Europe is relegated to unending poverty under capitalism.

Oh, I'm laffin now. You're just fucking clueless, aren't you? We've had our standard of living increase more in the 26 years since the USSR broke down than under 70 years of commie rule.

t. eastern-european

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>>135079611
>hurr durr, you're all neocons because I said so

You don't lurk here often,do you?

>>135079970
>mutually beneficial trade
Except it isn't because the worker is receiving less compensation than the worth of the product.

>>135080650
Who makes the industrial grade machine, the workers. Who innovates and designs better equipment, engineers and scientists. I haven't bothered with starting a business because the turn over rate is over 80%. Unless you are born into money, it's a lottery scam.

>>135081146
>Jap flag
Hmm

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>>135081146
>only recently the population growth normalized in the former commie countries
>majority of the people regret fall of communism
>most think they had it better
>opinion of capitalism is worsening
>Japanese flag
Really activates the charcoal.

>>135081450
How is my son doing?

>>135079048
It's a fact that most people don't even know what communism is. You retards bitch about this all the time, too.
Any random person on the street will say "it's when the government controls everything" if you were to ask them. You'd be lucky to even get a mention of the phrase "means of production" if you sat out asking people all day. The truth is that most self-identified leftists/socialists are just selfish and entitled losers who want to enrich themselves using the state, and who want to mask their self-interest under the guise of moral heroism. Nobody cares about your 19th century religion.

As you can see in this graph >>135074917, the original graph was manipulated (probably intentionally) to understate wages. They do this by:
>usig two different inflation adjusters
PCE vs GDP deflator. Hopefully this makes sense as an error without further explanation now. Next,

>using median instead of mean
Basic statistics will tell you these two are not interchangeable. Here, the appropriate metric would be mean, because we are comparing total output to wages--we should be able to compare total wages and total productivity, but because we are using percent growth, taking average wages will do just as well. There is no justification for using median wages and pretending that if you multiply it by the relevant population, you will get to total wages--which is what we are supposed to be comparing to total productivity.

Now then, the big fault that the graph is guilty of is using CPS Workers--a very specific subset of total employees--and using their figures as representative of the average. First, the graph I posted exapnds this to employees (instead of just "workers"--which is somewhat arbitrarily defined), and then to expand the CPS dataset to NIPA data--which is much more inclusive of the whole economy. (see https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/working-papers/2015/demo/SEHSD-WP2015-01.pdf)

Finally, we have wages, when compensation should be used--yes, stock options and health insurance are valid compensation for work and should be considered at their monetary value.

Anyway that took way too long. Hopefully you will consider it instead of letting your cognitive disonnance prevent you from acquiring knowledge.

>>135072485
Does this mean you shoot guns and rape women?
You're not vpn-ing in from a refugee camp in Sweden by any chance, are you?

>>135071709
Do you actually think it'll work? If so, why are you such a stupid faggot?

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>>135082083
>Nobody cares
Sure.

>>135071709
when will you do the world a favor and kill yourself comrade?

>>135074429
Didn't Jews invent communism?

>>135081450
>it isnt beneficial because "X"
even if X were true, this statement doesn't logically (or even practically) follow. retard.

>X
Workers are only fairly entitled to compensation for value that THEY added to the product. The purchase price of the product also includes compensation for the value of marketing, investment, etc.

>>135075385
see >>135082207

>>135081450
>what is travelling?

>>135081585
>Muh population growth
Might have something to do with the fact that you no longer need a special visa to leave the country

>most people think they had it better
No one under the age of 50 thinks that. And old people (at least the ones who didn't get gulag'd) look fondly back on their youth, because they were young back then, what a shocker.

>Japanese flag
Oh, yeah. Haхyй иди, кoммидayн.

>>135081305

You think you can mischaracterize my argument with your weak bullshit and safely get away with it because no one would waste their time responding to you?

I post on here all the time, and I am always greeted with hostility and anger, because unlike most posters here, I only speak up when I have something to say, and never when I am repeating something.

I always take special care to respond to faggots like you, who have nothing to say, but still can't stop themselves from chiming in. I like to remind you that posting empty snarky shit on here won't keep you safe from the truth: You're absolutely worthless, and you have nothing to offer the world. Why else would you waste words like you have? Go ahead and respond to me honestly, if you even have enough self worth left to confront the world sincerely.

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>>135071709

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>>135082646
>objective reality says you're wrong
>just make up some bullshit
Mы зa тoбoй пpидeм, пидep.

literally just here to note that communism didn't create blacked.com

>>135082975
They where also one huge spuer state the riveled the us in terms of influence and the Nazis for (((people))) genocided

>>135082649
hey buddy, can I chime in?

You're a cringey retard with almost nothing of value to say, and you dress up your speech like you're a fucking british parliamentarian from the 50s.

You remind me of myself when I take (recreational) adderall. Are you on stims or opioids right now?

>>135071709
When are you becoming old enough to post here?

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>>135083011
Well, it did make hiking the Swiss mountains naked illegal. Or maybe that's just German autism, not sure.

>>135082975
>muh popular opinion
woah woah woah hold on, so you're telling me that after decades of an authoritarian regime with a heavily funded propaganda wing, people within a country ARE NOSTALGIC ABOUT THE PAST!??!?!?!?

>>135083110
>topples a democracy
>installs a brutal dictatorship
>turns an entire country into a banana republic
.lectures others
US is literally the biggest bad guy.

only jews have an issue with communism

>>135081450
>Who makes the industrial grade machine, the workers.
then why don't they make their own machines instead of stealing somebody else's? who's equipment does the worker use to make these machines? why do communists always start in the middle of the story and make false assumptions about the beginning?

>I haven't bothered with starting a business because the turn over rate is over 80%. Unless you are born into money, it's a lottery scam.
i've started 3 and ran all 3 into the ground. i wasn't born into money either, i secured funding to start all of them myself. expecting a business to succeed on the first couple tries is a sign of how entitled you really are. calling it a lottery scam is just you blaming somebody else for your failures before they even happen.

no matter what rhetoric you use you can't escape the fact that capitalists are wealthy because of investments they made and risks they took. you admit you're unwilling to invest the money and are unwilling to take the risk, so why should you get paid for the product's value? you seriously need to grow up and stop trying to steal what you haven't earned from other people, kiddo.

>>135083397
>US is literally the biggest bad guy.
Yep. They did what they thought would increase their world power without regard for morality, entanglement, or economic efficiency.

You see why we hate communism?

>>135082975
>Never even been outside the US
>Tells me how people in my country feel about things based on some crusty old graph
>Calls it objective reality

Yeah, fuck off commie retard. We already sent your sore red asses packing once and won't hesitate to do it again.

>>135072485
What's your bench
Post body

>>135083442
Communists must have a problem with it as well, because it has never worked.

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>>135083442
???

>>135072312
>Cut, but by my own choice
the larping was obvious on the first post and yet you will get 300 replies

what a cesspool that board has become

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>>135083587
When communism will rise again, it will be under the guise of anti-communism.

>>135076251
>'some animals will always be more equal than others'

said George Orwell the SOCIALIST CHECKMATE

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>>135071709
Well, a couple of replies from OP yet this thread is still up. Nice slide. New tactic has been noted.

>>135073302
Most women orgasm when they get raped and rape fantasies are the most common type of sexual fantasy among women. Not to mention the rapes that go unreported or unprosecuted cause it was Chad. It's why there's such a low conviction rate for all the rape that occurs.

>>135084359
What's being slid?

>>135084359
>
lel. I've been BTfOing commies left and left. I wouldn't call it a very effective slide or shill tactic

>>135071709
Why do you have gay?

>>135072485

>be alpha
>think everyone should be treated equally

C'mon man, seriously?

>>135084204
wow you sure showed him with your ironic humor! good job responding to the leftypol thread calling for help, you really advanced the plight of the worker today komrad!

>>135083143

Why do I give a fuck if you cringe at what I have to say? Why would I value your opinion on the content of what I have to say on an anonymous image board, where you have no idea what I post beyond this thread?

I'm actually not familiar with the speech habits of "british parliamentarian from the 50s" but well done on what is no doubt a really scathing insult on my way of speaking. It definitely made me forget that you had nothing to offer on WHAT I have to say.

Yes, I am on a stimulant right now. What about my posts reminds you of yourself? Nothing you've said to me so far has been worth either of our time so I'm interested to hear what you imagine we have in common.

>>135084162
no, it will be under the guise of communism. Look at France (Hamon, etc) and Germany (Schulz).

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>>135072485

>>135084758
this post made me laugh for the first time in the past two days. thx

How does it feel to have a weightless brain.

>>135071709
why dont you just kill yourself?

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The Internal Enemy of America

by Dr. James Wickstrom

http://youtu.be/hQo6O8GjKJo

>>135084875
I'd rather look at Melenchon and Wagenknecht <3, at least they are somewhat socialist.

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hey everyone just tuning in, read my posts and download the images I've posted. They're not perfect but it's the gist of the thread and a good resource for anti-commies.

night

>>135085316
Can we shag your girl? And socialize with with her?

How are you doing in middleschool? Obviously not getting good grades in history I see.

>>135085462
We should really be sharing yo!

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>>135080973
>Religious tolerance is all well and good in a monarchy, but it doesn't belong in a democracy, period
So the only way for democracy to work is for the authoritarian state to dictate the thoughts of all the people?

>>135084758
another thing. If you have a script for the stimulants you're on, FOLLOW THE DOSAGE SUGGESTIONS. I was on adderall for half a year and almost killed myself by suicide because I missed a few days and tried to use it for fun.

>>135085711
Just curbing the spread of religious bullshit is fine.

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>>135085885
Through what methods?

>>135086063
Designated prayer spaces, no proselytizing, complete excision from the education system, no tax breaks, or privileges of any sort, condemnation and humiliation of religion and the clergy.

Can you kill yourself please?

>>135074429
>born in 93
>I'm 28

You're either too young or too retarded to be on this website. Either way, it completely explains why you're a communist.

>>135086398
God damn you're fucked up evIL mother fucker

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>>135086398
>Designated prayer spaces
Aka Free Speech zones

>no proselytizing
Okay, so no free speech outside those zones

>complete excision from the education system
What about homeschooling?

>no tax breaks
I'm assuming your going to treat all charities and non-profit organizations this way as well

>condemnation and humiliation of religion and the clergy
Through what methods?

>>135085821

>another thing. If you have a script for the stimulants you're on, FOLLOW THE DOSAGE SUGGESTIONS
This is good advice, but also, all of my points still stand

Why are you retarded?

>>135086582
I'm actually being extremely lenient.

http://www.socialism.com/drupal-6.8/articles/pope-francis-catholic-church-and-argentina%E2%80%99s-%E2%80%9Cdirty-war%E2%80%9D

>Among the best known accusers were two of Bergoglio’s former teachers, Orlando Yorio and Francisco Jalics, Jesuits who were determined to work in the slums of Buenos Aires and interact with leftists who were doing the same. When they rejected Bergoglio’s orders to stop their work, he kicked them out of the Jesuit order. Shortly thereafter they and six parishioners were kidnapped by junta thugs. The priests were tortured for several months and then dumped on the roadside. The six lay Catholics were disappeared. Yorio declared in the first trial of junta leaders in 1985, “I am sure that he himself [Bergoglio] gave over the list with our names to the Navy.”

>>135086698
>What about homeschooling?
That sounds like child abuse.

>I'm assuming your going to treat all charities and non-profit organizations this way as well
Yup. Those things are mostly virtue signalling dogshit, anyway. Charity is immoral.

>Through what methods?
Propaganda, of course.

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>>135086969
>That sounds like child abuse
Raising your own children is considered child abuse now?

>Charity is immoral
Holy shit

>Propaganda, of course.
So you're combining no free speech with state sponsored propaganda. I can't ever imagine that democracy turning into a dictatorship, no siree, that democracy is rock solid.

>>135073926
>Why has communism failed miserably in every nation it has been tried--from the USSR to China to Cuba to Vietnam to North Korea to Cambodia to Venezuela-- piling up ~150-200 million corpses.
>Were none of those "real communism?"
Communism is stateless.
The Soviet Union was politically socialist and economically state capitalist, not communist.

>But I've never taken an economics course in my life
Yes, it shows. China is socialist and state capitalist, too.

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>>135087303
Charity accomplishes nothing and changes nothing at best, beyond making the actor feel good and less guilty about themselves. At worst, you actually prevented change from taking place. If you want to buy an indulgence, go buy an indulgence.

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>>135087792
>At worst, you actually prevented change from taking place
How so?

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>>135071709

>>135087792
i took a trip to ecuador with my church and dropped off a ton of medical supplies. the doctors who came with us instructed the ecuadorian doctors on how to use all of it. people who didn't have access to modern medical procedures now do, isn't that the goal of socialized medicine? it seems that christians are doing communism better than the communists, kek. is that why you want to ban us, because we make you look lazy and incompetent?

>>135078165
>Actually people are fleeing to Cuba for their free education
The most powerful nation in the world had Cuba under a total blockade for 5 solid decades, I wonder why they have economic problems. It's not because American leaders thought communism would fail.

They were absolutely terrified it might succeed.

>>135088344
Alleviating suffering that stem from the flaws in a system prevent both the actor and the recipient from fully realizing those flaws.

>Just as the worst slave-owners were those who were kind to their slaves, and so prevented the horror of the system being realised by those who suffered from it, and understood by those who contemplated it, so, in the present state of things in England, the people who do most harm are the people who try to do most good
>t. Oscar Wilde

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>>135088603
Funnily enough now that we've opened up trade with Cuba they're finally starting to turn capitalist.

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>>135088836
>Alleviating suffering that stem from the flaws in a system prevent both the actor and the recipient from fully realizing those flaws.
But if the system allows for the suffering to be alleviated through the freedom it gives its citizens then those flaws for all intents and purposes don't exist.

>>135089078
>Funnily enough now that we've opened up trade with Cuba they're finally starting to turn capitalist.
If you had ever taken economics, even in high school, you'd know that capitalism always exists at the microeconomic level

>>135089078
I'm sure bribes are making their into the pocket of Raul Castro as we speak.

>>135089267
Or the system can be rectified not to cause suffering in the first place. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

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>>135071709
Why do porkies think they should be allowed to live?

>>135074696
>cut because phimosis
Ah, phimosis. Very familiar with that.
Still, nothing a good rub and stretch didn't fix.
So much more fun, and actually gave me a legitimate excuse to wank.
To think I could have gotten circumcised instead, wew. Seems wasteful.

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>>135089564
>you'd know that capitalism always exists at the microeconomic level
Yes, but its not supposed to under communism.

If I wanted to know something, why would I ask a commie?

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>>135089593
>Or the system can be rectified not to cause suffering in the first place
Considering how much suffering would be caused by your solution for "prevention", I'll think I'll just take the cure instead.

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>>135089934
hella fuggin epic

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>>135089974
>affirming your allegiance to the old, unjust order, ruled by the rich
>while using your spooks to distract yourself
If you think you're surprising anyone, you are mistaken.

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>>135090455
You're the one advocating for a totalitarian state with no free speech, government enforced propaganda, and an all encompassing bureaucracy to rule. The idea that anyone would unironically advocate for such a state is confusing to me.

>>135071709
Why do you keep trying?

>>135084758
>>135082649
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

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>>135090963
The damage caused by capitalism accumulates. I advocate for real solutions caused by it. Failing to implement them now will just make the solutions I advocate harsher, not softer.

Peaceful solutions don't work. Only power can answer power. We've been shown that clearly again and again for a 150 years straight. My favourite lesson is Ludlow.

Every year, 45 thousand Americans die from lack of access to healthcare, another 50k declares bankruptcy due to medical bills. Child mortality higher than Cuba. 16% of the population in poverty, 50% of the population 500 dollars away from living on the street, 80% in debt at any time.

Do you think changing and improving lives of hundreds of millions of people will take a soft touch?

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yes goy everything for everyone

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>>135072485
>I'm certainly not beta.

>>135092222
What's the point of letting plebeian population soar?

You'll eventually reach a Malthusian crisis where you have billions of niggers, and the intelligentsia get marginalized as every last resource is strip-mined for gibs.

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>>135092222
>I advocate for real solutions caused by it
Oh great, so do I

>>135092463
Malthus worshipers get shot.

>>135092599
>oh shit, reality is really hurting muh Marxist utopia dream, better shoot all the people who mention reality

Sounds kinda like Pol-Pot.

>>135090963
>intensify coughing
>viet nam though
>we still have access to youtube, facebook and pornhub
*cough*

>>135071709
Commies don't buy things, MAJOR EXAMPLE OF THE HYPOCRITE DOGMA known as "Communism"

>>135072859
I'll never understand the obsession communists have with the future. It's like you guys want to live in a dystopia where you liberties are taken away by the day.

>>135093999
What does that have to do with anything?

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>>135074279
>Pinochet supporter
>calling others Scholomo

>>135071709
What convinced you of the validity of communism over other forms of economics?

What form of government do you think is best suited for what you believe communism should entail?

How long do you think the era of socialist governments should last before a communist one can take firm hold?

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