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Independence or statehood, what does /pol/ prefer?

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Independence or statehood, what does /pol/ prefer?
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I'd prefer the island to sink into the ocean

Any Puerto Ricans of value are on the mainland USA and we shouldn't have to support this nest
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>>135064717
I support statehood, but most of my family wants independence because they have their own pride. I respect that. But living next to the land of freedom and being a territory of said place makes me wish we were the same.
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>>135065852
We don't want you
Moochers
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>>135064717
Independence

Puerto Rico is a pathetic shithole full of lazy beaners.
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>>135064717
Fuck off, we're full filthy liberals.
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They are not white so what do you think
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>>135064717

Do you really have to ask?

Nobody wants that godforsaken island to be a permanent part of the United States. We would just inherit all of their problems.

I wish Puerto Ricans would grow up, take pride in themselves and seek independence. It's for their own good. Independence would motivate them to get off their lazy Spanish asses and do something with their lives.

...maybe not in the short term, but in the long term they would be better off. Filipinos did it and they are doing well today, so why can't Puerto Ricans?

What the fuck is wrong with you all? This is a serious question. Why don't you want to be independent? Is it Stockholm syndrome?

Answer me, goddamit.
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>>135065942
My family's not on food stamps, we pay our taxes, we pay for our healthcare, we all have jobs, and we voted for less taxes yet lost to the ghetto niggers in the island who even have free housing. I fucking hate them. Why can't they be like me? I even made my mom vote for Trump in New York.
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>>135066330
You are still a spic, no amount of acting while will make you a white, at best you are a good house nigger
>look here love me my white masters we are conservative we pay taxes why do you hate us
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>>135064717
Statehood, but you faggots better not vote democrat.
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>>135066502
I admitted the majority of people in the island are worthless scum. The few who do work have to carry these lazy caserio nigglets around with sales tax up the ass.
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>>135066502

Let the good Puerto Ricans be proud of their self-dependence and maybe they'll influence their lazy brethren.
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>>135066185
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Tell me about Puerto Rico, why are they so destitute?
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>>135066772
I'm not against your or for you, my point is, many right wingers will never accept your as one of their own because right wing is distincitvely tribalistic, If you don't belong to the "white" tribe (which is a very very big tribe in it itself, a century ago a lot of whites were still out of the tribe, the irish for example) you will never be accepted. Just stop with the "I'm doing x-y-z" crap, some people will never accept you no matter what, accept it and move on.
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>>135066944

Their fucking lazy. That's all it is. They do nothing. Literally.

Part of the reason is that they're dependent on the United States, and have no incentive to do anything.

If we cut them off, they'd get the fuck up and figure something out.
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>>135066944
We took all five smart people on their island
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>>135067008
Not white enough huh? I may have brown eyes, but blue eyes are in my blood. (Pic is the current governor.)
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>>135067504
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>>135064717
Kill the spics and replace them with whites.
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>>135065156
fpbp
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>>135064717
They should be nuked for creating reggaeton music. Of course, (((the music industry))) is pushing reggaeton right now to dumb down mainstream music even more.
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>>135067353
*All 4 million
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Statehood would literally be the only thing that could be good for the island, if we go independent its gonna be another Haiti within a few months

But to be completely honest, Puerto Ricans do not deserve statehood, anyone with any brains already packed up and left to the US
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Daily reminder to /pol/ that I'm an islander and will eventually move to the US, and you won't be able to know I'm from here because I'm white, blonde and have green eyes. You can keep trying on the beaner comments, though :^)

The problem with Puerto Rico is the fact that if you work, the government fucks you in the asshole and you're left dirt-poor on payday. In the meantime, lazy niggers get benefits for doing literally nothing. It's backwards. That's why so many of us move to the US, because your government is shit and retarded, but not Puerto Rico-levels of absolutely fucking retarded.

>We also have more white ancestry than white bois in the US. Stay mad, gringo.
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>>135067943
All 6 smart people on their island
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>>135068147
It's gonna be haiti in 20 days energy plant is about to give out.
Also to the mother fucking complaining about caserio rats faggot you left the island instead of helping it you coward.
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>>135067934
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zZjSX01P5dE
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>>135067777
checked
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Any of you boricuas currently studying?
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>>135068731
Studying anesthesiology, I'm gonna make six figures soon. Papa bless.
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>>135067934
That infestation came from american niggers.
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>>135064717
I would consider a statehood trade of Puerto Rico for Hawaii.
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>>135068147
>Statehood would literally be the only thing that could be good for the island

No it would not because they would continue to do nothing and be lazy scumbags. It would be the poorest, most crime-ridden, useless, welfare dependent state in the union - also the dumbest with the worst school test scores.

If they became independent and then realized that they had to fend for themselves, they'd be motivated to get it together.

Just like if you have a lazy 20-something still living in your house not working. The best thing to do is kick him out. He'll figure something out and learn to be independent. He might hate you at first, but later he'll realize that it was for his own good.

Puerto Rico is a 500 year old country that has never grown up.
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>>135068903
godspeed fellow non NEET. I'm in my third year of accounting
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>>135066944
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>>135066502
spic isn't a race
I'm probably whiter than most "white" americans
>>135064717
I don't care. I'm already an american citizen, and will remain so even if we become independent. If shit hits the fan, I'll just go to mainland US.
>>135065852
Con todas las ratas de caserio que no trabajan? Con los politicos corruptos que le roban al pueblo? PR being independent will be the end of this island
>>135068731
Yeah, but I don't want to talk about it.
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>tfw pure blood Puerto Rican
>born and raised in PR for 22 years
>look with disgust all these new yoricans who think they're Puerto Rican because their dad's father was Puerto Rican
>tfw have never met a real Puerto Rican living here yet
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>>135064717

Expulsion.
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>>135069323
They're north of texas now.
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>>135066502
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Independence, the island would be a economic parasite to the US. We're already swimming in debt. Don't need more in reality.
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Statehood as a first option. If not full blown independence. What I really want is the destruction of this crappy deal we have now. We're basically cucks.
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>>135068973
Yes, anon! Puerto Ricans fought and still fight for America's freedom.
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>>135069195
Those are literally US subsidies making PR GDP look that high.
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Honest question:

Federal tax brackets start at 10% and go to almost 40%. Puerto Rican tax brackets go from 7% to 33%.

Debt is secured in large part by Rican income tax, so you cannot just slash it.

Is statehood blocked by the current debt crisis?
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YOU FUCKERS GIVE IT BACK
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>>135070166
Yes they don't meet the requirements.
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>>135070305
They are being sold to china.
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Subjugation and purging. We don't need their debt, or their people.
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Who exactly is responsible for this? What American idiot thought it was a good idea to Annex Puerto fucking Rico, and then give those Chiquita banana nutcase spics full U.S citizenship?

Holy FUCK that was horrible idea. Look at what we have to deal with now because of this 100 year old mistake.

Puerto Rico should be in the history books as an example of how Colonialism and expansionism is wrong, and it is of no benefit to the colonizer. We got nothing out of it.
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>>135070493
The Spanish took all our gold though.
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>>135064717
Independence. We don't want any more fucking spics.
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>>135064717
Fuck you.
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>>135070668
Bro, that's the problem. We're US citizens. Anyone in Puerto Rico can freely move to the US and they already have in droves.
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Do you know how many electoral votes they would have?
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>>135070340
What requiremet says states can't have debt you smartass?
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>>135070668
They are already citizens, may as well let them join. Lot of them are Catholic and white Hispanic, maybe they'll vote GOP, idk.
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>>135070801
This is true. More Ricans in the contiguous US than on PR anymore. May as well make them a state so they can vote in federal elections. Maybe you guys can be island Texas and vote for Republicans?
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>>135064717
Independence, we aren't in the colonial age anymore we should do what England did with India and their other territories.
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>>135070801
>>We're US citizens.

Easily, the worst decision ever made by the U.S government.

Filipinos were never citizens, but some idiot thought it was a good idea to give Puerto Ricans a free pass to the United States.

But why? What was the rational? Who thought this was a good idea?
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>>135071097
Dude they are fucking spics they are going to consistently vote democrat.
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>>135064717
Independence. Who on their right minds would want uselessness personified as a state.
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>>135071097
The problem is the youth leans left while the old folk are conservative the believe us hates them there's also the whole navy men raping women in the island that left a bad taste.
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>>135070979

Debt-secured income tax + federal taxes would put a 60K taxable income over 50% in tax.
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>>135071097
I would give my life to further the cause of redpilling on my island. I told everyone I know that Bill Clinton is a rapist, that transgenders are mentally ill, that Communism killed more than the Nazies, that Pinochet saved Chile, and the whole story of Kek.
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>>135070493
President William McKinley. Annexation of PR was opposed by democrats since they were against imperialism. McKinley was killed by a left wing anachirst scum. Learn your own damn history you dumb cunt.
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>>135071364
Funny how easily spics throw away their "Catholicism".

They are more easily bribed than Judas himself.
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>>135071364
Texas Hispanics are sold Republicans though. I think with a strong culture and religious background (PR has this), people will vote conservative no matter the race.

Honestly, a big reason why we lose so many young Hispanics and Asians is because they leave their parent's culture (which is good, we want them to assimilate), but instead of assimilating to constitutional, cultural Protestantism, and societal conservatism, they assimilate to the SJW left.
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>>135071524
I think you can do a good job, the foundation is there - strong religiosity, strong cultural pride. When you have this, you get less leftists.
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>>135071507
Well then the debt would need to be restructured then. It's jewish bankers fault anyway for lending money to a broke ass government. I'm not against repaying the debt, I'm pro for it, it's just going to take some time.
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Statehood
Should be brought in with another territory to offset the democratic senators
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>>135071770
Oh boy you don't know how right you are about the jewish banking thing.
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>>135070305

Pick up your trash Spain. If they don't want to be independent, you can have them back.
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>>135071593
All my friends are catholic. (Pic is Padre Anibal)
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>>135071969
Un recuerdo a mis anonimos aqui: Rezen el Rosario todos los dias para garantizar su salvación y vida eterna. Amen.
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>>135064717
>tfw like a quarter puerto rican
>white of course
the pains of being white hispanic

>>135071609
>strong culture and religious background (PR has this), people will vote conservative no matter the race.
you're completely wrong about this
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>>135072190
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>>135071969
>"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall. enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven." --
--Matthew 7:21

Your lazy welfare island is not fulfilling the will of the father. Plus Hispanics consistently and very heavily vote progressive in the U.S despite their fake ass Catholicism.
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>>135072190
I always wondered, if we were a state it would be extremely hard for a democrat to win here, as they stand now. Sure they most probably take Guaynabo and San Juan (gay towns) but they would loose pretty much everywhere else. People here are pretty homophobic.
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>>135072845
Hispanic includes filthy Mexicans, so your argument is null and void.
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>>135072880
>People here are pretty homophobic.
so are nigs. and they're the biggest democratic voting bloc. poor people vote on gibs first and social issues second.
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>>135071770

The state government wouldn't be able to legally eliminate debt-secured income tax. Therefore you can have Statehood, but any citizen with a 40K+ taxable income would run for the mainland.

Even if Congress voted tomorrow for Statehood, you would end up with an empty island.
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>>135072230
How is he wrong?
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AVISO DIARO DE QUE LOS DOMINICANOS HAN LOGRADO SIN AYUDA DE PAPA AMERICA
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>>135072880
>Guaynabo
>gay
Someone's fucking jelous.
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>>135071548

Well then we have President William McKinley to thank for one of the worst decisions ever made in U.S history.
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>>135073626
>>135073808
Y por que no te mudas si tan bien le va?
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>MUH SELF PROCLAIM 85% WHITENESS
>STILL BE A SHITHOLE
What did they mean by this?
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>>135073038
Kek, Mexicans are actually an upgrade thanks to not having any Nigger DNA.

Doesn't matter in the end anyways, they all vote for Satan. And your island needs to do a bit of soul searching because it's as clear as day just how easy it is for Satan to tempt spics.

Savage DNA = poor impulse control. There is a reason why Satan is using your people to assault ours.
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>>135066944
>it's always the same poster
We meet gain Dominigger
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>>135073904
>este estudiante en el extranjero
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>>135073928
Have you been to Jew York lately? Place is filled with niggers, yet it's ultra rare to find a pure nigger in Puerto Rico. Maybe you should do some soul searching before speaking out your ass.
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>>135073928
Well actually most of the island has moroccan and italian dna with some spanish.
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>>135073206
That's a debunked meme.

https://www.google.com.pr/amp/s/thinkprogress.org/amp/p/e5066ae38aa8

Hispanics are still more homophobic

https://www.asu.edu/courses/css335/kmhculture.htm
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>>135064717
Independence for sure
All poorda ricans deported
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>>135065156
/thread
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>>135073626

Look even DOMINICANS, can boast of being better than Puerto Rico.

PR, are you really going to let Dominicans upstage you?
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>>135074229
oh right forgot the chunk with sephardic jew too.
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>>135073616
what defines a "strong culture and religious background"? all hispanic groups have this, only cubans vote republican because their grandparents lived in a communist dictatorship. blacks have that, and as i stated, they're the most solid democratic voting bloc.
funny enough how, despite the stink that some people on this board will make about "muh white people don't serve christ muh family values are dead muh extended family", white people, the group that has the highest prevalence of irreligion, and are the only group to vote majority republican every cycle.
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>>135064717
Independence because God knows we have enough problems as it is
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>>135073910
Congress made and repeal laws for us, creating an unstable environment for the economy.
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>>135066185
Argie porfavor noo
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>>135074297
You can barely deport illegal Mexicans, what makes you think you can deport US citizens?
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Statehood, because there's no legitimate reason not to.
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>>135067777
Then enrich those whites multiculturally.
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>>135073928
The only Puertorican niggers live in Jew York
90% of the islanders are fair skinned
>>135074222
Top tier saint
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>>135073928

Puerto Ricans are objectively worse than pure-blood black countries. Other U.S territories with unmixed black majority populations have much better stats than Puerto Rico.
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>>135074555
We almost wiped you out with sterilization in the 60's and 70's. We'll deport you if we want
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>>135070029
Truth.

Plus the native Hawaiians don't really like white people for messing up their island paradise and white people in Hawaii really don't like America either.

If Puerto Rico wants in then give them some goals to work toward. Proper motivation does wonders.

We could even make this like a relegation scheme in soccer. Now that would be fun.
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>>135074912
Yeah gonna need some sources to back up your fallacious claims friendo.
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>>135074843
Yes. Poorda ricans are basically Jamaicans and Haitians
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>>135068973
Who says we can't get rid of both?
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I'm half Puerto Rican and half White, should I go for White or Boricuan gf?
>implying I'll ever get one
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>>135074489
>It's not our fault we're cucks

hOLy Shiit
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>>135074912
Bring it on, dirty nigger ape!
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>>135075095
It happened in NYC. Too bad it was a failed program
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>>135075302
No. You're the nigger living on nigger island with nigger blood
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>>135067504
You may be fine as an individual, but your island is a shithole. That's why I prefer it just be independent. Same reasoning with women's suffrage being a mistake--the clueless cunts always outvote the decent ones, so why bother giving the decent ones a vote?
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>>135074912
What the fuck are you talking about, anon?
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>>135075504
Stay mad, nigger. I'm enjoying my life in beautiful Puerto Rico.
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>>135074222
Ah yes, because you made the disastrous decision to introduce them into your bloodstream, and now you all pay the price for the original sin of your forefathers.

Funny how much of sin lives inside of the blood? It's almost as if it's a biblical theme.

>>135074229

Now let's add a massive amount of natives and niggers into that gene pool.

that's a volatile mix that will destroy just about any civilization's ability to defer gratification.
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>>135075893
Good for you. Stay there
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>>135075101
I wouldn't go that far, they're highly mongrelized, they're significantly whiter than Dominicans whom are whiter than Haitians but that really doesn't mean much when they come to the U.S. They all vote the same.
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So, this is who we have to blame for the Puerto Rican scourge.

Let's get Marty Mcfly to go back in time and shoot this idiot in the head.
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>>135065156
This tbhfam
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https://www.google.com.pr/amp/www.univision.com/amp/noticias/elecciones-2016/estos-son-los-votantes-boricuas-de-florida-que-pueden-definir-las-elecciones
Puerto Ricans turned Florida red.
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Yeah, go ahead and try to kick us out White boys. We you know you're scared of us Latin Lovers taking your girls.
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>>135076843
This is why we call you niggers, every argument devolves into 'muh dick'
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>>135076362
>not wanting more territory
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>>135077027
To be fair you guys do the same to asian males on here
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The pathetic thing about Puerto Ricans, is that they can't even stick up for themselves.

Notice that not one Puerto Rican in this thread has been able to come up with anything positive about their own country.

They're such failures that they have to just admit it.

Be ashamed.
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>>135064717
Leave them the fuck alone.

If "leave everything the same" was an option like it was before, it would win in a landslide.
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>>135077094
Dominican here. I think a nice middle ground would be to genocide Borifags to then acquire the island.

I've been to the island, it's actually pretty nice in vistas. It's like a Polynesia island.
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>>135077170
Yeah, I'll give you that
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>>135064717
I'd prefer independence rather than statehood. The last thing we need is a fucking spanish speaking island full of spics having more influence in our congress/presidential elections.

We would still keep military bases there obviously, so it would be no skin off our back.that's all we need them for anyways.
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>>135077230
We do love our culture, but we're a political mess because of both Congress and slimy politicians on the island. Guess I gotta take it despacito...
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>>135076843
Geeze... That's the weakest meme Ive seen... Oh, it was Hecho en Mexico that's why.
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>>135072845
Only landowning white fathers should be allowed to vote, lol
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>>135076843
Somehow in my highschool it was all the hispanic girls that were pregnant at 14. I'm pretty sure the direct translation for quinceañera is "rotting on the vine."
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>>135077230
PR politics suck. The commonwealth is great.
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>>135077815
Guess the legal age for marriage in Puerto Rico.
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>>135077779
Landowning white fathers like this Puerto Rican?
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>>135074809
REEmove that flag lefty pol.
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>>135064717
Independence. I want them to lose their ability to come to the US as soon as possible.
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>>135076843
the new arcade fire album is gonna be so bad
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>>135068356
Why do you care so much about being white. Fuck off, spic
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>>135064717
Independence. The last thing we need is to keep taking care of 6 million Puerto Ricans that would add 2 more democratic senators. Cut the dead weight and let them figure out statehood for themselves.
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Would guam be liberal or conservative if they were a state. From all I've heard they appear like they would be conservative, but I highly doubt it. It stinks to me like the same shit people who say puerto rico would be conservative, when we all know they wouldn't be. I think I just don't know enough about guam to form a real opinion.
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Puerto Ricans have a mean IQ of 84.7.

We should excise them completely.,. and make the ones living here choose between America or Puerto Rico — no dual citizenship.
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Worldwide USA
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who /territory/ here
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>>135078810
4 lyfe
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>>135078894
where from?
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>>135078894
IRS btfo
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>>135064717
Why is there a Somali flag in there?
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>>135078949
Buying a place in Luquillo or Fajardo within the year.
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>>135079423
>intentionally moving to this hell hole
>in the current year

nigga why in the fuck, I literally had 12 hours of electricity today, are you retard
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I'd prefer the status quo. No independence. Political unity and territorial integrity before everything else. That said, Puerto Ricans have no right to citizenship. That should absolutely be revoked.
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>>135079540
Why don't you want people to move back, you fool?
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>>135066502

I'm really tired of you faggots coming onto /pol/ and thinking you represent Americans. I can smell the Eurotrash right from my computer. why do we allow you to have an opinion again?
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>>135079742
Because I'm not a sociopath
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>>135079540
My mom will live there, I'll stay for a few months every year.

Power doesn't go out in fancy people places.
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>>135080063
yes it does, the fancy people just have electric generators
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>>135079540
>not owning real estate in PR and renting it out to section 8 peasants

Lmaoing at your life bro. Don't tell me your parents only own one house?
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>>135081597
have you even seen real estate prices lately? they've dropped like 80%, you're not making a profit renting to section 8 people.
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>>135082123
That's why you swoop in, but em cheap, and hodl for 10-15 years.
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Whatever costs less and better serves the goal of slashing welfare and regulations on the island. Poor people have rarely done anything bad enough to deserve the chains of dependency and impotence our society fits them with.
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>>135064717
Free marked independence but the pro independence people are a lot of Communists faggots, so statehood in this case.
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>>135068731
I'm studying computer science at the UPR more in the future I will continue studying video game programming in Atlantic university. I hate my city (ponce) because all there is medical shit in colleges, but I was studying at a better university. And why do I answer your question and why you want to know?
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Puerto Rico has got to be the most inbred island on the planet. Nowhere on earth will you find uglier people located in one place. Gross.
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>>135064717
Statehood
Bitch
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>>135064717
protectorate.
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>>135064717

>2017
>still not independent

just a shamefull modern display of american imperialism
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Statehood
Also the U.S. Virgin Islands should unify with Puerto Rico.
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>>135083947
well which is it, is puerto rico an inbred shithole or a mutt breed shithole? you can't have both.
fun fact: the most inbred region of the world is the middle east, saudi arabia especially.
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>>135064717
Giving the island to the Dominicans. That also include US Virgin Islands.
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>>135075174
Halfie here. You could choose it.
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>>135073984
Hi Manolo
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>>135064717
>>135066330
>>135066772
>>135067504
>>135067570
>>135067943
>>135068356
>>135070493
>>135070640
>>135071464
>>135072880
>>135074364
>>135074843
>>135077495

Literary, the most blue-pilled island in the Caribbean. You are 3rd world tier, you deserve 500 more years of colonization since you are unable to govern yourself and instead have become over-dependent on the US. Your future is more debt
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>>135077366
Why not create Gran Quisqueya.
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>>135085953
>Based papa merica
THISSSS
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>>135085953
We only want the land. You can keep the people.
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>>135087613
To be honest, that's pretty good idea.
Make the meme that is Puerto Rico a Dominican territory. We could probably make it a second cibao. Import all the cocolos and useless trash from the south of the country into it. And make Perdenales a new world Monaco. (Highly touristic residential area)
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>>135068731
You can't study if you keep letting commies close down your universities. Don't you get tired of losing?
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>TFW no Puerto Rican gf
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>>135088088
Also, split Puerto Rico into pieces of new provinces.
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>>135088797
That means 22 new provinces for the Dominican Republic.
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>>135088797
>such small island
>all these municipios

Just because the meme island is on the east, I think it would be preferable to divided by Themas. (Like the Byzantine Empire, aka East Rome)

Maybe in 2, northern side and southern side. I think like 2/3 of the meme island lives in the north.
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GL whiteboy te only puertoricans ive met have been stronger fighters and stronger management than me. And ive never seen a whiteboy better than me
> Mexican intellectual
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I fucking LOATHE Puerto Ricans. Puerto Ricans are THE FUCKING WORST types of spics you'll find anywhere on this planet. I don't care if one of 10 is a good person, the other 9 are guaranteed lazy dindu nuffins that just shit up every area.

Puerto Ricans fucking ruined New York, Massachusetts, list goes on. I hate Puerto Ricans so much.
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>>135070493
Puerto Ricans have fought for this country. They are American as apple pie even if they're spics. You can't say they haven't contributed nothing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_Puerto_Rico
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Fun fact the official GOP platform is to allow the Boricua to decide. And the Island vote 95%+ for statehood, wonder if the GOP would put their money where the mouth is.
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>>135064717
GET
THE
FUCK
OUT
OF
CENTRAL
FLORIDA
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>>135064717
Independence or statehood? Who gives a shit? We're gonna put independence on a statehood and then you're gonna give a shit!
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>>135092267
If you think NY is bad, come on down to Orlando. They have become over 50% of our youth population now.
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>>135075893
your pic related looks tasty. im actually visiting PR in a few weeks.
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>>135066944
Leftist government.
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>>135064717
We should make them a state, and Cuba too. Make a deal with Putin, we'll look the other way in Ukraine and he won't notice when we roll into Cuba.

hard mode--- Repatriation for the Haitians and we claim Haiti as a white-0nly homeland for displaced whites from South Africa to Detroit.
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>>135088088
And also Pedernales is a desert-like provinces.
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