This person won't be able to serve in the US military because

>>135059383
Kill yourself faggot.

I'm in the military. Trust me, we don't need (((it)))

>>135059547
Maybe we should ban you instead, how do you feel about it?

>>135059383
Oh shit how will we carry on without this mentally ill burden?

>>135059383
Nope. Read.

"I'm a soldier who actually received the briefing first hand from someone who helped create the policy.

Basically if you declare you are transgender, you'll get a plan set in place between you and a specialist. That plan is flexible, but basically states how far you'll transition, how quickly, etc.

While in this process of this plan, you will be non deployable, still be the gender you previously were (however command will accommodate you a needed), and constantly be evaluated for mental health.

Once transitioned to the extent of the plan, you are now given the new gender marker (and are treated exactly like that gender), are deployable again, but must continue checkups and continue taking hormones.

One issue most had with this is it's a very expensive surgery/process and effectively takes a soldier "out of the fight" for 1/4 of their contract or even more. So not only does someone else need to take their place, but Tri-Care (our health care) will take a hit. Personally, I think the estimated number of transgender - especially those who would want to transition while in the service - is blown way out of proportion."

>>135059383
That person is too vein to serve, and doesn't have the mental stability to serve. He will kill himself when he gets older and more soft.

>>135059611
>don't want to serve with mentally unstable faggots.
>let's ban you then hurdur dhuur

>>135059637
>""I'm a soldier who actually received the briefing first hand from someone who helped create the policy.""

It's likely a /pol/tard trying to defend Trump's decision

>>135059383
The battlefield is no place for social experiments

>>135059685
If he passed the mental tests any other soldier goes through, he is mentally stable enough to serve

>>135059637
But I need to use this issue for moral signaling. Stop giving me logical reason why it degrades unit cohesion/ morale.

>>135059850
Then why Trump is doing the social experiment of banning certain people from the military based on reasons that have nothing to do with their ability to fight?

>>135059850
Then why is the military full of societal rejects and poorfags?

The American military is literally designed to appeal to people with mental problems.

>>135059383
>he
No, your attitude is retarded. That thing has no place in the military.

>>135059383

So, what does this guy do when he's stuck under heavy fire, he ran out of hormones a day ago and can't get any replaced for at least a few more days? What about the much more common male to female transvestites who can't waste hours every day stretching out their fake vaginas?

>>135059983
You are the one with a retarded attitude here, not me

>>135059383
>person

>>135060045
He will do what any other soldier would do to win the battle and survive

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>>135059383


ATTENTION!

CHOKE POINT DETECTED!

What trump just did is going to piss off A LOT of liberals and they will, in great numbers, and try to fight this particular battle.

The trans issue is one of the WORST debate terrains imaginable for the enemy. This could possibly be the straw that breaks the camels back, so to speak. The worst hill to die on.
The enemy will advance with HIGH and DETERMINED moral but will be armed with the weakest arguments and the weakest defences, making a VAST NUMBER of liberal celebrities and liberals in general vulnerable to DEVASTATING defeats in debate that will CONCLUSIVELY EXPOSE them for being ignorant and insane to even normies and casual liberals.

Imagine a vast stone age army of retards charging a well equipped and well located machine gun bunker surrounded by a vast mine field and supported by artillery...
Too weak to take the bunker, too stupid to adapt, too retarded to retreat.

>Key weaknesses:

?Rejecting biological essentialism is a rejection of science which casts doubt on their level of education and the validity of their "post structuralist" arguments.

>Gender implies a belief in sexual stereotypes (lego for boys, dresses for girls etc).

>Gender stereotypes are literally defined by the behavioural trends of biologically defined sexes, thus they secretly believe in bio-essentialism.

>"Transitioning" implies a belief in bio-essentialism too! (if you are already a girl, then why do you need your penis cut off?).

>"born in the wrong body" = implies bio-essentailism and male/female mental inequality.

>The rejection of biological essentialism = women don't exist and thus feminist theory is COMPLETELY invalid.
>There is no "pay gap" because men/women cannot be defined!

>"their brains are different!" = brain differences = different behaviour = human inequality!

>"born that way!" = implies a belief in nature over nurture.

>etc

Exploiting these contradictions = THE COMPLETE IDEOLOGICAL DEATH OF THE LEFT!!!

>>135059952
This memo allowing transgenders to serve came out around two years ago. The social experiment was changing the rules to allow those who shouldn't be in in.
All so some fags in DC could feel good about muh diversity.

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>>135059383
NO PLACE FOR FREAKS AND OP!!

>>135060147
No, "he" will crumble into an emotional mess, have some sort of meltdown and likely cost himself his life and possibly even cost the lives of the people he's there to protect as well.

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>>135059383
Le based black man and gays are fine

>>135060162
Such a thing will only sway people of neutral political ideology, and cause an equal rise in the right. Hell, I have a couple libbie family members who would jump their sinking ship if such a thing were to occur. They'd be dropping a gigaton redpill.

>>135060314
There are mental and physical tests any soldier goes through.

15,000 transgendered people in the US passed those tests and they serve in your military right now.

And what their country does as a "thank you" for their service? ban them from the military.

Honestly fuck off

>>135059383
I literally don't give a shit

>>135059383
No jackass, you're the retard. We don't want freaks and the mentally ill in our military. Now go kill yourself.

It is a disgusting mentally ill faggot that deserves nothing but a bullet in the head

>>135059952

When I joined the Army here, you won't be inlisted if you require prescription medicine.

How can you serve when you need to regularly take hormones?

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>>135059383
>This person won't be able to serve in the US military because he is biologically a female

THIS person won't be able to serve because of an unfortunate mental illness. This reverse-gaslighting by progressives is giving sick people the false sense that they're ok. It's just wrong.

>>135059383
>faggot frog flag
>being retarded
Back to the closet, freak.
Maybe that will teach you to treat your cock like a piece of salami.

>>135060400
You must be a transvestite yourself if you're unable to correlate hormonal imbalances, sketchy drug regiments and mental illness. Go fight under the leadership of Tyrone in the kekistan army with the rest of the transvestites.

>>135060698
Transgender people need to pass the same mental and physical tests any other soldiers goes through.

If they pass those test, they should be able to serve regardless of their gender identity

>tfw a literal woman can grow a proper beard and I can't

>>135060789
AGAIN

Transgender people need to pass the same mental and physical tests any other soldiers goes through.

If they pass those test, they should be able to serve regardless of their gender identity

>>135060085
>no, u
Nice try. I hope you cry more so I can drink your tears of unfathomable sadness.

>>135059383
It's called testosterone injections. Go 2 weeks without a medical supply making it through to the front lines and it'll implode in on itself.

>>135060807
Bullshit. The rules were changed by an extremist progressive (Obama) to allow mentally ill folks into the military. The rules have now been fixed. Go cry elsewhere sweetie.

>>135059383
That thing is on male hormones.
Male service men are not allowed to use steroids

>>135061063
You are just lying right now. i will repeat myself:

Transgender people need to pass the same mental and physical tests any other soldiers goes through.

If they pass those test, they should be able to serve regardless of their gender identity

>>135060878
>Transgender people need to pass the same mental and physical tests any other soldiers goes through.
>If they pass those test, they should be able to serve regardless of their gender identity

Just because you keep repeating something over and over doesn't make it true.

>>135059952
Because it's not on the battlefield.

Better to correct it before it gets that far.

>>135061181
What mental tests? Also trangenders aren't the only people with mental issues not allowed in. Bpd? Had a suicidal thought once? Out.

>>135061364
yeah they discriminate against a few other people other than these freaks

http://www.military.com/join-armed-forces/disqualifiers-medical-conditions.html

>>135061326
In fact, repeating yourself over and over like that is likely a symptom of a service-disqualifying mental disorder anyway.

>>135059383
Why do trannies want to serve in Literally Hitler's army though? Have they come around to our way of thinking? Will we have RuPaul's Racewar finally? Men in glitter and heels with flamethrowers, BBQing the Juden?

>>135059828
>faggot flag
>calling anyone else a tard

>>135060604
This. I was denied entry to military due to being asthmatic as a kid and used prescription medication. I have not had any asthma symptoms for over 15 years but it still was counted.

>>135059383

And nothing of value was lost.

>>135061364
>What mental tests?
You really think the military just accepts anyone? any soldier is tested by a psychiatrist to ensure they are mentally healthy for service.

Any transgender person who pass this kind of test, and also passes the physical tests, should be able to serve.

There are 15,000 trans people in the US military right now who passed those tests

>>135061459
>discrimination
What about vetting? Would you want a man who can't use his right foot to serve in the military? Why would mental issues be immune to the vetting process?

>>135061181
Uh no. No, I am not lying. Gender dysphoria was classified by the military as a mental illness. The previous admin changed those guidelines to allow these mentally ill people to serve. Things are back to normal now thanks to Trump.

>>135061649
Sauce

>>135061649
Being a transgender is longer classified as a mental illness not just because of obama you fucking idiot.

And it's also not detrimental to your ability to serve in the military. trans women are actually physically stronger than non-trans women because of hormones

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>>135059637
Who the fuck was responsible for this policy?

>>135061640
1. I think we're on the same side of this one
2. That's actually what discriminate means. Like the military discriminates against people with asthma, and that's ok for reasons like you are mentioning.

>>135061613
Yeah, they passed under loose guidelines that let mentally ill people into the military when they would hamper it in an emergency

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>>135060397

This is THE battle to fight!

There are so many key problems with their positions and contradictions within their alliance.
Men can be women, but men and women don't exist, but biology matters, but biology doesn't matter, because race isn't real, but if brains = behaviour then race = behaviour.

They cannot have all these positions.

All the stupid stars align right in front of us and we have an enormous a death star sized mega gun.

We MUST exploit this and drag this out as much as possible!!!!!!

Women have it so goddamn easy that even transitioning is easy compared to men->women

>>135061613
Being on lifelong medication to maintain health(both physical and mentally) disqualifies normal people from military service.

You do not get special rights.

>>135061847
Yeah, but I assumed you were talking about the bad kind of discrimination. That article was actually my source of info. Just didn't bother to add to the list

>>135061944
1. What you are saying is not true
2. It's not medication, it's hormones

>>135062153
>hormones aren't medication
Even fucking ibuprofen is medication

>>135059383
Does the military have to supply him with hormones too?

>>135061995
I think that's actually the argument. If discrimination is baseless it's bad.

If discriminating against trannies makes as much sense as discriminating against asthmatics, I'm not sure what everyone is all worked about.

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>>135059885
>If he passed the mental tests any other soldier goes through, he is mentally stable enough to serve

It's an on-going process, not a one time deal.
It is not like, hey I passed a physical or a security clearance once; now I'm good to go for twenty years! You'll be evaluated for fitness for duty all. the. fucking. time.

I know guys that got booted from my career field because they couldn't qualify with their primary duty weapon.

>>135061613
15,000 people is not that big of a deal. The military is at least a million strong.

Grow the fuck up.
I have bipolar and can't serve because I am mentally ill. Same with trannies.
Harden the fuck up.

>>135061944
They are not used as a medication in this case

>>135059850
But it sure is a good place for chemical experiments huehuehue

>>135062519
They think it is a problem because they casually dismiss all of the complications that being transgender bring

>>135060878
>Transgender people need to pass the same mental and physical tests any other soldiers
And the standards totally haven't been compromised for the sake of muh diversity.
http://popularmilitary.com/nearly-half-females-failed-graduate-army-infantry-training-standards-also-lowered/
Nearly half of females failed to graduate Army Infantry training, standards were also lowered.
Gay larper flag, faggot OP

>>135062712
Yeah but to be fair these transgenders are on hormones which makes them more athletic

>>135062153
It is true. Men low in T and women low is estrogen have health problems, fact. Removing or disabling these organs are even worse(sanitary issues, infections, maintenance), and taking opposite hormones of your sex further pushes and deforms your body.

>>135059383
>showers in a baseball cap
>can barely secure a towel
Not a persuasive argument Anon

>>135059383
Could you please clarify.
Does this person have XX chromosomes?
Or does this person have XY chromosomes?

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>>135059383
That chick is more cut then 96% of /pol/ TOP KEK probably beat up a good majority of us too no lie
>respect the muscles

>>135059383
Psychotic faggots and bulldykes belong in one of two places:

1) Mental ward
2) Circus freak show

The US Military is not on that list.

>>135062712
I'm against lowering standards, but even if lowering standards happened in this particular case, it doesn't mean they are always lowered.

You are the one who is the retarded person here if you think a person who passes all the required military tests shouldn't be accepted because he is trans

>>135063062
You can lead a mule to water, but you can't force it to drink...

>>135063062
>You are retarded if you think a person who passes all the required military tests shouldn't be accepted because he is trans

A delusional faggot that chopped his dick off fails the psychiatric test.

>>135060227
holy fuck where's her dick?

>>135062822
>Yeah but to be fair these transgenders are on hormones which makes them more athletic
Yeah, and have massively higher suicide rates(which they try to pretend is muh oppression); also self-destructive behavior like provoking violence leading to higher involvement in pointless violence(also blamed on muh oppression). Not a demographic I'd want a team member from; this is MtF though, not sure about typical behavior of FtM(but female fighting force is obviously retarded.)

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>>135063062
see
>>135062611

>>135063222
>>135063322
You are the one who is delusional if you think not having a dick prevents you from being able to fight

The truth is, transgendered people already fought and risked their own life to defend you and your country. say thanks instead of being a huge asshole

>>135059547
+1

8 year trigger-pulling combat vet here. Unlike most here, I'm very libertarian leaning. You wanna chop off your schlong because that is how you wish to persue happiness? Whatever. If it is not impeding on other's constitutional rights, then Go Crazy! I just don't wanna hear about it or pay for it. If you think tax payers should subsidize it and the on going care via TriCare, you are on crack. A nice range session makes me happy. That actually is a constitutional right. Why are you not footing my ammo bill?

I once got article 15 for getting a bad sunburn because I was unfit for duty because of my own decision skip the sunscreen when surfing on a cloudy day.

Aren't post-op trannies unable to do shit for like 3 months and then have life long complications?

Also, in combat, medical resources are precious. You can't go if they even SUSPECT you wisdom teeth MIGHT give you a problem. Why? Ain't gunna even chance them giving you a tooth ache. Fucking around with hormone therapy and buttpussy dialation check-ups vs gunshot wounds, TBI's and IED amputations? It's no contest. They shouldn't be there consuming battlefield resources when a combat effective Joe with zero need for routine medical care could be in that position.

I assume the buttpussys need pretty intense hygiene. The nice way of saying it is "Austere Environment"..... it means you are stationed in a shit hole. You know what I got? 1 hot shower a month and an extra $150 a month hardship pay.

Finally, serving in the Military is NOT a right. It is a privilege. Some are unfit to serve. The Commander In Chief has the authority to define the standard of fitness. Don't like it? Move to Canada.

Can't understand this? Wish to let your emotional feelz drive your judgment? Place more value in virtue signaling than war fighting? I thank God that you have no role in making important decisions that would impact the combat readiness of our Armed Forces. We would be the next fucking Sweden.

>>135063453
Literally doesn't matter to my argument
Transgendered people already fought and risked their own life to defend you and your country. say thanks instead of being a huge asshole

>>135063461
Stop putting words in my mouth. People who have mental illnesses shouldn't be in the military, bee it depression, bi polarity, or gender dysphoria

>>135063684
Transgenderness is not a mental illness

>>135059383
Taking selfies in the mirror
Being that fucking self aware.
Dude, pick up a military book ffs
People like this are not made to be efficient soldiers. Disgusting pleb and their silly questions

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>>135063461
Physical strength, endurance, and mental toughness are required for infantry combat. Insane faggots who think they're girls and insane dykes who think they're guys do not have it. Biologically normal females don't have it either.
Only young men in good physical condition do. That is why for all of history those have been the members of society who have gone to war. The left isn't at war with the right, the left is at war with the science of biology and with reality itself.

>>135063532
Let's also ban all christians from the military.

Making a prayer on daily basis is wasting precious time that could be used to actually win the battle

I'm just showing you how ridiculous is your argument

I recommend you Sun tzu.
At some point he speaks of these things.
He'd probably behead trannies to give the example.

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>>135059383
As a trans woman,

IF YOU HAVE A CHRONIC MEDICAL CONDITION YOU CANT LEAD A NORMAL LIVE

Whats next, allowing people missing limbs to join?

>>135063600

Faggot, I've worked with gays in the military long before Don't' Ask Don't Tell was a thing. I respected those troops and their hard work and never got any bullshit from me even though I was a commander and could have dropped the hammer on them at any time.
This is simply a fitness for duty issue.

>>135063927
What's about the 15,000 transgender people who serve in the military right now and fought to defend your country?

>>135064051
>a /pol/tard false-flagging

Gee, never seen this before

>>135064004
You can delay praying. Even Islam lets you delay prayers that must be made at specific times. HAVING AN EPISODE cannot be delayed in an emergency though

>>135059611
plebbit detected

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>>135064093
Frolic medical condition not a result of service

>DISCHARGE

>>135063600
> risked their own life to defend you

When will this meme end? Are you people actually stupid enough to believe that the U.S army has been used for anything besides furthering the goals of oil magnates and greater Israel?

Very brave and noble of you to insist that mentally ill retards die for you btw.

>>135059383

So it's entirely based on how you look to other people, got it.

i wonder how women feel about dudes in wigs coming in and just crushing them at every physical training session

it's like they're begging for men to be better than them at everything

>>135064185
What's about the 15,000 transgender people who serve in the military right now and fought to defend your country????????

The US military is now going to lose thousands of soldiers because of this decision.

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>>135064093
chronic medical condition not a result of service

>DISCHARGE

>>135059383
What's retarded about it? Even with muscle mass being equal, males are still 1.5x stronger than females.

Remember to sage in all fields. Guy is either a piss poor troll or a mentally unstable faggot, which is obviously a Canadian. Neither deserve (yous) or attention.

>>135064323
>argument didn't work? Say it again!
D I S C H A R G E

>>135064332
>>135064332
What is even your argument?

>>135064323

There is no shortage of men who are not mentally ill or trying to game the system for free surgery

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>>135064163
Not a false flag cockstain,

But outside post posting a photo of my dick in panties to a meme faggot it cant be proved

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>>135059383
Kys faggot. Trannies and fags are mentally ill AIDS grenades ready to blow up at any second. Hopefully he ban gender dysphoria sufferers from America next. You faggots and the shitlibs that endulge your delusions should be lined up and shot

>>135059611
>Maybe we should ban you instead
How about you get banned from living? Day of the Rope is coming, traitor.

>>135064093
The only 15,000 trans people that are serving in a military are doing it on Cybertron.

>>135064004

That is the most asinine argument I have ever heard.
What combat resources are consumed via a soldier saying a prayer, Mr. T. Penectomy?

>>135064445
Its the Military not a FUCKING social welfare service

If you have a chronic condition you cant serve.

>>135064476
Buddy, you live in a society where 80% of the US population are delusional retards who believe in a sky daddy.

Being Trans is not a mental illness, and even if it was, i think being a religious retard is would be a much more detrimental mental illness

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>>135059611
It literally doesn't matter how anyone feels about it. What matters is how effective the military is.

>>135064004
Though many military experts agree that religion can lead to superstition, which is a flaw.
Faith can be an incentive to being self less. Something that a tranny CAN'T BE.
A soldier cannot be overly attached to the material world.

I hate pleb like you with a burning passion.
You're basically the equivalent of a redneck bullshiting a doctor about what is the best possible treatment.

It's not because you can think that what you think is any irelevent to actual military philosophy.
Fuck off disgusting pleb

Does he need hormones to maintain his maleness. if yes then that makes him as unfit to serve as a diabetic who needs insulin.

>>135061815
>Being a transgender is longer classified as a mental illness not just because of obama you fucking idiot.

Gender dysphoria is considered a mental illness in the medical world, and for that reason, trans were barred from serving. Obama wanted to change that. Now Trump is saying no, the rules will not change.

>>135064004
Praying is not a debilitating and or impeding condition that uses precious medical supplies
.
>precious time that could be used to actually win the battle
200% Plebbit

>implying you're going to delay an entire operation because some dude wants to pray
>implying there is no time to pray outside of standard operations, such as in one's downtime or dedicated sleep time

>>135064732
Its a Chronic medical condition you Sargon Sucker

>>135061815

Using women as your standard for suitability to serve isn't going to help your cause.

>>135059611
flag checks out

>>135064289

Can't wait until they are shattering all the olympic records and REAL women can't even keep up.

>>135064816
Homophilia was removed from the DSM for solely political reasons. Political correctness does not change reality, and reality is faggots are mentally ill, not just trannies, all faggots have a severe mental disorder. And that makes them unfit to be anywhere other than a psychiatric ward.

>>135064732
>Being Trans is not a mental illness

Gender dysphoria, which is what trans suffer, is an official mental illness. Stop getting your medical knowledge from tumblr

>>135064798
>>135064798
You are the one who is the pleb here, not me.

I'm willing to fight to defend the rights of trannies because its something that actually matters. people are going to be hurt because of Trump's incompetent decision.

A tranny should be able to go through tests to try and get accepted to the military like any other person. i only want trans people to be treated equally

>>135065074
It was not changed for purely a political reason. it was changed because it does not fit the definition of mental illness.

>>135062822

If they're going m to f they're on hormones to make them less athletic.

>>135059383

Have you sucked her hairy nub yet, OP?

>>135065111
We are being grated equally.

We have a reliance on medication and if we don't have it we loose combat effectiveness.

Banned like everyone else!

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>>135061815
wanting to irrevocably change your body and need drugs.

as opposed to someone who doesn't want to get fat so they throw up after meals

which one is the mental illness?
Get your kike propaganda off my board

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15k disgusting freaks kicked out will be a good thing the military is hardly desperate for shitty recruits.

http://www.military.com/join-armed-forces/2014/05/14/80-of-military-recruitments-turned-down.html

Turns away 80% of all applicants

>>135063532
Good post, have a (you)

>>135064323
>15,000 transgender people

7,000 to 11,000

>>135064071
+1, had a closet homo in a unit I deployed with. He was a gung-ho fighting son-of-a-gun. I had zero issues with him. I maybe didn't agree with his life style, but he earned my respect in combat. When "Don't ask don't tell" was repealed, it wasn't earth shattering or anything like that. The EO NCO did a brief, said don't harass anyone, and life went on.

>>135065111
You're a pleb in the sense that you're unaware of the subject. Did you read Sun tzu^ No, Machiaveli, no, Lord shang, bet you didn't.

I repeat. A soldier cannot be overly attached to the material world.
A tranny has way too much of self awareness to be an efficient soldier.

That's just the mental aspect of it.
For the physical one, having a permanant wound that you prevent from healing is not the best thing to have on the field.
Enough with your fucking degeneracy you pigs.

>>135059828
>denies the validity of someone's argument on the basis of not wanting to believe it
>classic plebbit

>>135059383
mmf I'd fuck "his" ass

>>135065412
You are the one who is a pleb here because Transgendered people already risked their own life to defend the US. not once, not twice, but many times.


>>135065288
First one is not mentally ill.
Second one is mentally ill.

>>135065111
There is no such thing as a right
TransFags have no rights
Because rights don't exist

>>135065111
> people are going to be hurt because of Trump's incompetent decision.

And people will be killed if he didn't make that decision. This is the military, where things like unit cohesion and comradery are extremely important. More important than a few women dressing up as men feeling left out.

>>135063532
Why dont you fuck off we dont need anymore libertarian fuck shitheads bringing back non white females to breed mixed race kids. Fucking off yourself. Trannies should be banned but both of you are fucking shitheads

>>135065484
There was nothing that proves the statement he made was a real and accurate one. it was just a person posting in 4chan.

>>135065229
It was changed because insane faggots were disrupting APA meetings, the shrinks wanted the mob of crazy faggots to go fuck off. So they gave the shrieking fairies what they wanted. It was the definition of Alinsky-style political pressure. The fags got a political victory, but their tactics have zero relevance to medical science. And medical science says that homophilia is a hormonal disorder which causes mental illness.

>>135059383
Good, she'll probably sperg out over a non period on the battlefield

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>>135059383
>"Sir, I know our unit is pinned down by sniper and artillery fire, but I kind of need to dilate the hairy axe wound in my crotch before my body starts to heal it back up."

Oh no, we've lost so many valuable assets to our military.

>>135065111
Trannies don't deserve rights

>>135063532
This post. I like it.

>>135065583
How many people got killed because of trans people in the US military so far? zero.

And there is absolutely no reason to believe trans people will lead to people getting killed when they need to pass the same tests as anyone else

>>135060085
How can you win an argument against a retarded 12 year old such as this who basically says stuff like 'nuh uh', or 'it's not me it's you'. He is adding nothing to the argument except his stupidity.

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>>135065547
>counting Mulan

>>135065547
based on what arbitrary standard. Psychologists? Why only in the last ten years has their been arguments about this. You feel like a blank in a other blanks body that's fine you're off and need to see some therapists.

>I am a woman in a man's body
> I want to cut my penis off and destroy the natural balance of hormones in my body

you sir are a fucking retard

>>135059383

Fuck transgendered troops. Do you know how much of a pain in the ass it is to be responsible for a trannie troop? Leadership is always scared of EO fallout so trans troops get tons of awards and accolades while being complete shitbags that barely meet minimum requirements. NCO's are afraid to punish them for their shortfalls or failures for the same reason. Trannies DESTROY unit cohesion as suddenly everything has to revolve around them and their fucked up perception of reality rather than the mission.

ITS THE FUCKING MILITARY. WHY DO SHITLIBS SUDDENLY GIVE A FLYING FUCK? Who in their right fucking mind thinks I should let my troop out of work or deployments to go dilate or hormones or whateverthefuck. Fuck that shit. Obama pushed this bullshit through in his last 6 months either as a sabotage or pandering.

These people are 90% self obsessed narcissistic fucks that think the entire world should revolve around them. Why do you think they have a 42% suicide rate?

>>135059383
God damn they've gotten more realistic. How do I find out if my bf is a tranny?

>>135059383
Would also be true if he was colorblind

>>135060147
>'he'

>>135064093
The same thing that happens to anyone else no longer meeting the standards. They have to go. You obviously have never served. There are no "shades of gray".

Everything is either go, or no-go. They are a no-go. Now they gotta go.

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>>135065547
>Transgendered people already risked their own life

It'll only be good when they finally END their own lives, which is cause for the rest of us to celebrate.

>>135065547
>Let me tell you about my anecdotes you fucking pleb with your actual military thinkers, fuck group thinking and social incentives, they are gud peepul ! :(
Okay then. Fucking retard.

>>135060227
Lol hey that's jaq

>>135065823
Something can only be considered a mental illness if harms the people around you or yourself.

If someone is happy being a trans, it's objectively not a mental illness, but a choice of living

we should ban women and MtFs, but allow Men and FtMs (under supervision)

>>135059952
>hay guys can we like pause the war so I can like get my hormone treatments?
Fuck you

>>135059383
you forgot your "APOLOGIZE", senpai, so here's a (You)

>>135065789
>so far?

How long before a clinically depressed tranny shoot up it's barracks or sabotages it's ship because it feels the world hates it?

The military has enough suicide issues without adding to the problem.

>>135065960
Being trans does harm you. Wanting to mutilate your body with hormones and surgery is a mental illness

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>>135065960
>ripping out ovaries or making wounds in body
>not harming oneself

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I'm honestly tired of talking wit /pol/tards who think Transgender rights don't matter.


Just remember that you are spitting in the face of the thousands of trans people who already risked their own life to defend your country.

Bye.

>>135065960
>happy being a trans

41% attempts suicide

Try again

>>135066224
Good riddance retard

>>135059383
>transgendered people are banned from the military right now.

And nothing of value was lost.

>>135059885
Except for the fact that his entire brain circuitry is fundamentally flawed if we are to believe it's gentic

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>>135059383
MUH HORMONES AND BREAST SURGERY MAKE ME A MAN HUURRR..

IM A MAN! HUUURRRR

No, its a crazy fucking bitch who's shooting up on steroids.

You can't deploy people into the field who need a steady supply of any medication.

This goes for anyone who has any medical disorder that requires maintenance, up to and including schizophrenics, bipolar, and even skin conditions and extreme ADHD

>>135065960
Trans have a suicide rate of 40%+ you dolt. How is pretty much flipping a coin on if you're gonna kill yourself boy harmful to yourself? Not to mention the self inflicted harm like cutting your dick off.

>>135066224

cya faggot

>>135066328
The reason for the high suicide attempt rates is largely because of society being hostile towards them

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>>135066000

>>135066224
They're costing lives because they are unfit for duty. I don't care if they're willing to die. They have a high suicide rate anyway.

>>135066420
wrong

>>135059383

He has 1/4 minimum male test levels at best.

>>135059637
>deploy all post op mtf trans to the desert
>Haji spotted, pinned down for 2 days
>no chance for dilation
>immense pain as my fake vagina closes up entirely
>DIE

Please god, let it happen.

>>135066224
>you are spitting in the face of the thousands of trans people who already risked their own life to defend your country.

And I'm okay with that, since I've done same.
GO SERVE IN THE PEACE CORPS OR THE PUBLIC HEALTH SERVICE. BUT NOT THE MILITARY.

>>135066420

The more reason you don't give them access to military weapons or to be placed in high stress situations.

Thought you were leaving faggot

>>135065789
>>135065789
>How many people got killed because of trans people in the US military so far?

The point isn't that they are going to directly contribute to someone's death but that they are going to waste resources and add unnecessary emotions (extra emotions which are a proven side-effect from taking hormones by the way) to a battlefield already tense from death and destruction already. It's bad on bad, and personally I don't want my tax money going to pay for some faggot's hormones in the military because it identifies as a 'he' or a 'she'. If they choose to act and behave like a faggot they can do it on their own time and money.

And also, what kind of test is going to 100% prepare you or test you on how you are going to react with seeing your friends and comrades dying, hormones are not going to help.

>>135061613
So will those 15,000 be dishonorably discharged? Or will they continue to serve

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>>135063532
Good post, I'm in the Navy right now and I completely agree.

>>135066224
>who think Transgender rights don't matter

You trannyfags have the right to exist, but do not have the right to participate in everything that the rest of society does due to your mental instability and self-inflicted physical defects, and you do not have the right to demand any special treatment in any circumstance whatsoever.

Why can't trannyfags understand that they're nowhere near as special as they want to believe they are? Fuck off, and be sure to cut the long way when your time comes.

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>>135066224
>tossing mentally unstable people with a death wish into military units full of soldiers trying not to die isn't spitting in the faces of other people who risk their lives for us

Boo fucking hoo.

>>135066513
They passed difficult physical tests to ensure they are fit to serve you idiot imbecile

>>135066420
>Hostile toward a mental illness

Obviously people are going to be upset with faggot behavior because it is unnatural and way out of the norm. But when it comes down to it society doesn't kill faggots, it's the faggots themselves who do it, so you can't put all the responsibility on society when it is the faggot's choice how they want to live.

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>>135066224

Hate to burst your safe space bubble.

Trans suicide rate ranges from 32-50% based on demographics from the last study I read.

>>135065848
yeah, and probably only stands 5'5

as far as i am aware, taking the hormones won't make a woman who becomes a man any taller

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>>135059383
>biologically female
>no tits
>tfw live in time where visibly male gendered people have vaginas and female looking people have penises

Im afraid to talk to people now

>>135066853
>They passed difficult physical tests

Using the downgraded standards that allow women who can't pass the regular tests to sneak on through by being given special treatment and advantages.

Yeah, that's how it happens, if trannies actually had to go through testing at the level the normal male does, NONE of them would pass, ever.

Your kind only gets in because we lowered the bar for you the same way we have done so that niggers can skirt through high school just by showing up for class but doing none of the work.

How can anyone be proud of being handed the easy route just so they can "win" in their own feeble minds instead of ACTUALLY proving their competence? Makes you understand why 99% of tranny freaks are urban liberal retards.

>>135067020
The "norm" is sick and twisted when most of human society are dogmatic and delusinoal

>>135066600


Hairball in vagina.

>Die itchy.

>>135066853
>implying fitness to serve is based on physical fitness alone

Think about that one you imbecile. Mentally retarded people can be physically 'fit'.

Why are trannies acting like they care that Trump is banning them from an army that they fucking hate? Trannies are either on the Blaire White side or tumblr socialist Marxist retard side of the spectrum, there's no inbetween

WTF, that bitch needs a shave.

>>135066420
Another lie. When you look at countries that have the most acceptance of LGBT lifestyles, the suicide rates are unchanged.

Nothing to do with society. Eventually they come to the harsh realization that they will never truly become the gender they wish. Many wish they never started transitioning. But by that point many have mutilated their own bodies past the point of return. They can't live with themselves and now being neither a normal man or woman, so they kill themselves.

The REAL harm comes from people enabling their delusions. Will the person who feels female, but is male, and decides to just live out his life as a normal male ever be utterly content? No. Can they still lead long and fulfilling lives not dressing up as a woman? Absolutely.

>>135059383

Shame a mirror selfie doesn't give a very good psychological assessment of a person past likely being narcissistic.

>>135066853
>35 posts by this butthurt tranny civilian
Suicide imminent.

>>135066853
They get those muscles from pumping their bodies full of hormones and drugs that they constantly need to support their lifestyle. And who would need to constantly take care of that? The military, that's who. What if they can't really on back or supplies and have to live of the land? That tranny suddenly isn't going to be so helpful.

>>135067092
1. You did not burst fucking anything. Trans people who serve in the military pass the same mental and physical tests any other soldier goes through, and thousands of them already risked their life to defend you

2. This is the stat of reported suicide attempts, not successful suicides.

>>135067096
Do they have to take hormones until death or is it just a temporary thing?

>>135059383
women must be banned from all aspects of public and social life too. care homes for those who cannot secure an endorsing and provider male

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>>135059383
Oh no. How will the military ever be complete without this vapid faggot who probably couldn't carry 1/3rd of his weight for a mile.

>>135059383
steroids is a hellavu drug. i need some roids too for bodybuilding

>>135067130
Fucking kek. How are these people so delusional?

>>135067129
Now you are acting like a retard, evolution and biology did not bring us to this point for people to declare themselves something they simply aren't. Biology is unmoving, a man is still a man genetically and they always will remain as such. If anyone is delusional it's the people who violate such basic laws as those of nature and morality. (although you as a plebbit probably don't understand what morality really is).

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>>135065848
>play saints row
>insert male voice on female character body
>hehe
>go outside and talk to people
>realize saints row games are now realistic

fug

>>135067310

Hurr durr ima female now guyz,
I get to do next to nothing physically to qualify.

gtfo here faggot.

He looks like a scrawny little wigger.

>>135059637
Imagine sitting in a foxhole, while the insane, castrated man in drag next to you spends 90 minutes dilating the open, festering wound between his legs.

They account for what 1-5% who fucking cares. Now the 95% will work better as a team.

>>135059383
Mentally ill people cannot serve.

>>135066681
>15,000

7,000 to 11,000

>>135059611
nigga gbtr

>>135059383

The Hollywood F to M trannies often do shirtless scenes or pics. They can be very hard to spot.

>>135059383

And how do you think they'll handle everything when he's deployed and suddenly can't get their pills?

>>135059383
OOOOOH WELLL!!! IF THAT'S THE CASE LET ME FIX THAT FOR YOU.....
This person won't be able to serve in the US military because *she* is biologically a female and transgendered people are banned from the military right now.
Happy?

>>135063383
it's wearing a cup

>>135067310
>they didn't all succeed in killing themselves, guess we should place them in this unit of people who want to live
Tell someone who fucking cares, retard.

>>135067310
>pass the same mental and physical tests any other soldier goes through

Again, the same lowered level testing that's been created in order to ensure that everyone's feels are not hurt while allowing those unfit to serve to be considered for service.

If trannies ACTUALLY passed the same tests that normal (read: non-dick-chopping) men went through, maybe I'd consider your words, but since you're talking out your AIDS-riddled asshole, I will continue to call out your bullshit over and over.

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>>135066224
You cease to have rights once you enlist. Meals, Money, Mail. That's all you are guaranteed.

You don't see the bigger fundamental philosophical issue here. Trans folk are trans because of how theypersonally "identify" in spite of what society tells them they are. They choose to have elective surgery because their "identity".

The Militay has no individuals. "An Army Of One" doesn't mean YOU are individually an "Army"

It means we are a faceless, homogeneous unit, following direction from above without question, functioning as one for the better of interests that may not be your own.

If you obsess over your own individual "Identity" enough to mutilate your own body to satisfy your own vanity, you have no place in the Military in the first place. This includes the ones currently serving. Yes, even that one tranny leet oper8or grabbing headlines. Case and point, their vanity and emotions are driving them to publicly disparage the Commander in Chief. They are not the "Quiet Professional" they should be. As a civilian, it's their right now. But they have no place serving any longer.

Same goes for Obama. I personally despised him, but I had a duty to respect his position and title. Even after separation, I still do not publicly trash talk him. I did not agree with veterans that did, even if they were saying things I personally believed.

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>>135067311
I don't know how long they take them. I would imagine many many years.

I would be interested to see how aggressive an entity such as this one, can become.

>>135064881
You do realize it was CHRISTIAN VALUES that allowed this exact kind of degenerate behavior to exist right?

Go be a tranny in the Middle East openly, or gay, or feminist. See how "bad" Christian values are then.

We allow you psychopaths to exist because even as mentally fucked as you are, you're still souls like us. Religion of Peace would kill you for your degeneracy because it would please Allah.

God forbid we want the people protecting us to be capable. I hope if your house catches fire you get the worst firemen possible that are only there to fill a quota. Maybe then you'll value capability in your defense.

>>135068917
This is one of the most on point, level headed posts I've seen on pol in awhile.

Thanks for your service anon, and your integrity.

>>135069577
Wrong guy my bad. Meant the idiot you went off on "lul religion me smart atheist"

Terribly sorry.

>>135059383
It's still a manlet with mental issues, what are the benefits of it being a soldier? I keep seeing all this moral outrage. Name one benefit of having these in combat. Bullet shields?

>>135068917
My grandmother took me to task for trashtalking Obama once. She hated the man and was slightly racist, she told me I should at least respect the office if not the man. Your post is best post.
You win the internet for today.

>>135059383
you are a fag, stop using the Nazi battle flag overlay you homo

>>135070382
They can't justify their position. The only possible argument that's rational is "discrimination." Though if you entertain the discussion you realize it's a justified discrimination based on performance and ensuring stability.

The Left would be wise to dodge this fight but instead they'll double down and try to justify transgenders as natural. Every defense they make for transgenders is a 180 to their "gender is a social construct" narrative. Once people point out the contradictions it'll be their end politically. They'll be exposed for the science denying snowflakes they are.

They're picking a bad hill to die on.

>>135070865
As a citizen, I disagree: Obama did some real awful shit.

Look into his pardon of Oscar Rivera for instance.

>>135066420
>have chemical imbalance
>be sad man
>decide becoming Mona Lisa will make you happy
>dream of your milkshake bringing the boys to the yard
>start taking estrogen
>continue to build up delusions of grandeur
>chop of testicles
>invert penis
>nuke your already fucked chemical imbalance from orbit
>pseudo-vag needs nasty, painful ongoing maintenance
>No boys want nutless freak milkshakes
>empty yard
>realize Mona Lisa is the most disappointing painting in the world
>spiral uncontrollably into depression because you were too much of a faggot to get real help at square one
>Mona Lisa was a lie
>shoot up more estrogen and yearn for something more
>there is nothing more
>kys


Yup, I blame the CIS white male society for trans suicide, too!

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>>135066795
Anchors away, lad!
:)

>>135066853
You fucking normie ass civilian simpleton.....

"Physical Fitness" and "Fitness to Serve" are two VERY different things.

>>135063532
good post

>>135069584
Thanks

>>135059611
>Kekistani flag
Go back to /ptg/ to praise your jewish puppet

>>135071162
As is your right as a civilian in a free country!

>>135072089
Thanks!

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>>135059383
This person won't be able to serve in the US military because he has type 1 diabetes and diabetic people are banned from the military right now.

just showing you how retarded you are

>>135072911
Right, and that was my whole point to that other anon.

I owe the president, imo, no respect by default. It's earned, same as with everyone else.

Especially when Obama frees terrorists (Rivera) who killed American citizens.

>>135059383
Fuck you faggot

>>135064004
>He believes a soldier would put his gun down to pray
>He believes prayers can't be delayed in emergencies.
>He thinks a medical routine that must be threated every time it must with no exceptions it's the same as putting your hand together and talking for a few seconds.

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>>135068917
this

>>135060524
Well you had no problems voting for one

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>>135059383
OP, you fucking retards are just losing your minds - it's just glorious.

Get this through your fucking pea-brains: we're done with your degenerate double-think bullshit being shoved down our throats. You're disgusting and shouldn't be allowed to continue peddling your societally destructive nonsense.

>>135063532
Well said.

I don't agree on every statement in your post, but you have swayed my opinion on the matter.

good, we dont need mentally ill people in the military

>>135059383
Why not just leave them.in the military so they get killed. Thats logical of you guys to want if you hate them so much.

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>>135071251
bwahahaha

>>135064093
>Defend
Best meme of 2017 so far

this thing still has the bone statue and density of a woman

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>>135059383
Why would you be so outraged by this
Most trans people are too much pussies to join the military anyways

>>135071162
I agree, Obama was awful. It was the disparagement of the office that upset her. She was old school

>>135059383
she*

and nice bait but very low energy

>>135059383
Mentally ill people are not fit for service

Sure, don't pay for the surgery. But why outright ban them after that? What if they don't need hornome treatment and just want to serve?

Its like banning anyone who isn't a virgin because they might have an STD and they don't want to pay to treat it.

>>135073850
Thanks. Maybe I'm not "overly accepting", but I will tolerate their lifestyle choice. I don't think they could ask for anymore.

>>135075343
They won't ask, they will demand. Trannies are what finally made me realize that the slippery slope is not actually a fallacious argument. Somehow we have gone from the majority protecting the rights of the minority, to the minority dictating everything. It needs to stop.

>>135071251
This. Trannies should all kill themselves.

>>135076531
Again touching on the fundamental incompatibility.....
Everyone on the wrong side of this issue wants society to conform and cater to them, no matter how others feel

Once enlisted, the individual must confom and cater to the military, no matter how they feel

>>135059383


HHAHAHA HEY faggot OP learn science you cuck... only reason she looks like that is cause she's on TRT FOR LIFE!!! something that tbat even men with low T due to injury CANNOT DO under current military rules. WHY ARE WOMEN ALLOWED TESTOSTERONE IN THE MILITARY BUT MEN ARENT???? WTF is going on??

>>135059383
i think it lowers the prestige of us military, and i think its been lowered enough since obama

>>135063532
Pasta'ed

>>135077209
I agree. The problem is the people outraged by this cannot be convinced that they are wrong, so it will be another drawn out shit show with pussyhat marches. I don't know if trannies will riot, but that would be Some entertaining YouTube clips of they do

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>>135063532

good post

Women shouldn't be allowed to be on the front lines. We definitely shouldn't allow Trannys with obvious mental issues anywhere near the military. Thank god for Trump.

>>135065412
>Did you read Sun tzu
meme chad literature for brainlets

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>>135078309

>>135078443
Thanks Leaf

>>135078424
I can't help but think the timing of this is not coincidental........

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>>135075274
They already ban people that are HIV+ or if they're already in and contract it they're either medically discharged or put on some back-closet desk duty far away from everyone else until your contract expires then you're not allowed to re-enlist.

Your std argument is fucking retarded.

>>135073874
This isn't an issue of "hate", it's an issue of some other mentally unstable individual gambling with your life on the front lines. Would you like to put your life in the hands of someone who's brain may or may not be functioning correctly on any given day? If you say yes you're a flat out liar.

>>135073375
They delayed an attack in Hacksaw Ridge because some pacifist asshole had to pray.

>>135059383
PAY FOR MY GENITAL COSMETIC SURGERY

>>135059383
I'm sure there's plenty of ripped men (actual men) who have ADHD.
They can't join either and they shouldn't be allowed to, fuck off.

>>135063532
STG3, USN, good fucking post my dude

>>135059966
>Poor people joining the military is a social experiment

Your blind hate makes you say retarded shit

>>135083832
Thanks bro!

Army CPL.

E-4 mafia 4 lyfe!

>>135059383
>This person won't be able to serve in the US military because he is biologically a female

Well, I have good news for you then. He's not a female. L'chaim

>>135059383
>muscles stop bullets

We require additional arguments.

>>135059383
Isn't having gender dysphoria technically a mental disorder? Are people with mental disorders in the military a liability?

>>135066600
Nice digits you got there friendo!

Having to shove a dildo in your gaping wound so it does not close for hours every single day makes you unfit for duty.

>>135083079

>Using a movie to support your argument.

I'd insult you but you've done far more damage to yourself than I ever could.

>>135060400 actually that number is false the American military has about 2500 trans don't believe what you hear on the news

>>135059383
Honestly people like you who continue to support this degeneracy penetrating into our society should be hung from lamp posts to be made an example of.

>>135059383
hipline below belly button line

it's a man

retard

i'm a tranny and I don't want mentally ill people in the military, this makes perfect fucking sense.

>dude let's waste all our military budget on hormones lmao

>>135059383

and an attention whore that makes shit life choices with that tattoo. don't need it. the military is to kill, not for social experiments.