Notice anything, /pol/?

>>135028383
Yeah an idiotic oversimplification.

>>135028383
wtf i love muslims now?

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>>135028383
Kek, I think we talked yesterday.

>>135029868
I didnt, but I noticed this pattern recently, and if you think about it, it helps to explain many things

>>135029675
You love crypto-muslims and other people who lived so long under muslims that when they finally reunited they kept some of their resentment against their conquerors, something that affected how their culture and subconscious evolved vs the one in the north, more militantly Catholic and victorious, a fact that is displayed nowadays indirectly by way of voting for the most anti-western subversive parties (and, in Spain, theres also the regionalist effect of people voting not on anti-West, anti-catholic grounds, but anti-Spain ones) who will destroy what they subconsciously despise: western christendom, patriotism, military toughness

I bet if we manage to find which colonies received spaniards from which provinces we might detect a difference too

There are similar patterns in ither countries, even if not Islam-related

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This an-cap guy is still here? Kek

no?

>>135031624
I didnt make any thread about this recently

>>135031802
>>135031336

>>135031902

Nah , but I still remember you , been doing well I hope ?

>>135032015
Which thread do u guys think I made? Link it plz

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>>135032141

Didn't archieve it

>>135032141
Some Ancap was running around all of /pol/ screaming about similar shit yesterday.

Don't mean that in a negative or positive way, just a fact.

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>>135031336

why do you post retarded shit?

not only that map is completely false and outdated, but the south is also the most catholic and traditional region of spain

>>135032388
Must be a smart chap then, if he noticed the same pattern

The sad truth about Spain is that without Andalusia (south), this country would have been ruled endlessly by right-wing parties since Franco died, instead we had more than 20 years of Socialism, which lead us to the disastrous situation we are in now where also 15% of our population is of foreign origin (mostly muslims and latin-americans)

>>135032477
You are literally proving him right, Andalusia is the socialist stronghold in Spain.

>>135032477
Thats the map of regional governments as of right now, and even yours still shows the exact same thing

And the argument is that their resentment was kept since that time, subconsciously. The form it takes and how it reveals itself can change. Se all know jewish and muslim converts overcompensated in external religious forms so people would think they had converted for good and leave them alone, yet they still resented their new rulers

I mean look at the US, the states founded by the Dutch, Quakers and puritans aren't religious anymore, but the political differences born due to that still affect american politics

>>135028383
Reminder Iberians CHOSE to convert to Islam but were forced to convert back to cuckstianity because it was either that or death

>>135033354

it was the same situation when the moors came, you either had to chose converting to islam and live as ''normal'' or in the best of cases you were forced to pay special taxes and if not, you were prosecuted and enslaved

>>135028383
Thank God you're just too stupid to know anything about that peninsula.

OH I FORGOT, he's the american mongrel obsessed with iberia

>>135033188
>their resentment was kept since that time, subconscious

It's not that though, that's over-reaching, also, Andalusians are not of a different race than northern Spaniards, in general.

The South is more agricultural and less developed, more easy to fall for the lies of socialists, they also have one system called "peonadas" where the government subsidies some farmers for just working in the fields few months a year and do nothing the rest of the year, all of this is promoted by the Socialist party so they vote on their interests. They also have the biggest gypsy community which of course votes Socialist for the gibs.

There's also a lot of favoring and corruption with the Socialist Party there, being basically a political mafia that dominates everything that happens in the region, besides that they are actually the most staunchly catholic part of Spain and probably the ones who oppose mass immigration the most, there was even an anti-immigrant progrom over a decade ago in an Andalusian city called El Ejido, however, they have been slowly becoming more and more progressive and "cucked" in the last years, probably through the influence of the Socialist Party there which has also become more pro-immigration, feminist, etc.. in the last years.

>>135033928
Muslim citizens were required to serve in the army and pay Zaka
Non Muslim citizens weren't required to do any of that so they payed an extra tax instead

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>>135028383
In fact you are a little bite wrong about elections.
Because the southernmost region of Portugal - algarve usually (by tradition) tends to vote right

>>135033188

What the actual fuck are you trying to say? andalusia, even though they have always been voting for the ''left'' in the last decades (although in last elections the vote was equal between pp-psoe), the motives were based purely in economy, ignorantly they have thought that PSOE was their best option as if they were figthing for the poors, the working class. But it is not because they hate spain and everything that it represents, not at all, I'm telling you again that is one of the most fervents, traditionals and pro-spain communities there is in this country

Andalusia is not formed today by old muslims/jews, they all were expelled or converted. Andalusia was formed and colonized by castilians and asturians after its liberation

here's a pattern I noticed too

southern portugal has higher gdp
southern spain has higher gpd
southern england has higher gdp
southern sweden has a higher gdp
southern finland has higher gdp
southern norway has higher gdp
southern ireland has a higher gdp

do I need to go on?

I think we've made a mistake guys

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>>135028383
ancapflaggot pls stop bullying us already

>>135034770
The Almohads came in XII century had forced convert so most christian and jews fled to Northern Christian kingdoms in Iberia and other Muslim firendlier kingdoms.elsewhere.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Almohad_Caliphate#Status_of_non-Muslims
>The treatment of Christians under Almohad rule was a drastic change. Many Christians were killed, forced to convert or forced to flee. Some Christians fled to the Christian kingdoms in the north and west and helped fuel the Reconquista. Martyrs under Almohad rule included:

>>135034778
the south is still more cucked, in general, and looking all the elections from to 1975 to 2015, they only voted for the right 6 times out of 15

>>135035523
>the parts with population centers are adminstrative and business centers of countries too
Who would have guessed.

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>>135034778
Algarve south Portugal votes Psd, because psd (right) has more histprical implantation there.
The left stronghold in Portugal is Lisbon, Porto and alentejo.

>>135035743
I was referring to the Umayyads
They were the first to spread Islam to (all) of Iberia unlike the irrelevant nomads you're referring to

>>135035510
talk the talk, walk the walk

Pretty useless to be le based catholics and keep voting for degeneracy every year.

By that logic Venezuela is traditional and not socialist at all
>>135035523
Andalusia and Extremadura have the lowest GRP per capita of all spanish autonomous communities
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranked_lists_of_Spanish_autonomous_communities

>>135035867
>the south is still more cucked

North, central south are all cucked, since left and right in Portugal are cucked.
psd is not different from ps.


The only way to evaluate that in a regional sense, it's see where the extreme right gets more votes (pnr) and it's in the south Pnr has more vote.

>>135036231

Every main party in this country is complete degeneracy, some more than others of course, but all have jews and corruption behind them. If it makes you happy, in last elections PP got, in general, more votes in andalusia than PSOE. But PSOE won in the big cities and our electoral law is not proportional so here they are again.

>>135036145
see >>135035867

You guys are probably judging this based on a smaller number of elections, more recent
>>135036504
yet no one gets elected and they barelyu get 1% of the votes. Hardly a high enough number to make such judgements

>>135035510
It's a troll thread. Nobody could be so ignorant.

>>135036991
not an argument

>>135036991
No, he's just retarded

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>>135035867
Ancap guy, people in the North owned more property, farms and property. they have have a stronger of ownership and defending their private property.

During Salazar rule, Alentejo was basically Feudalism in 20th century (terrain belonging to one person: latinfudiário). That's they voted Marxist-leninist since 1975. What's agrarian reform and other shiet. they are less religious due to Communist implantation.

Why doesn't it happen in Algarve?

>>135036231

Oh, you were looking for logic, my mistake
I thought we were looking for patterns

But southern Portugal is still richer anyway

http://www.portugalglobal.pt/EN/InvestInPortugal/RegionsofPortugal/Pages/TheRegionsofPortugal.aspx

>>135037698
What have been noticed is that in alentejo, when the old people die, the vote goes to the center again. You can already notice that, in Evora and other towns there,... the old commie they "fought" against Salazar are falling.
One the other way around, Lisbon and Porto are becoming more and more trendy left, probably cause they hae more immigration.
About Pnr, they have more votes in Lisbon, Setubal and Algarve because of the "multicultural reality

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Redpill me on your country, longest Ally.

>>135038578

All of our center and right parties are leftys, its culturally forbidden to have it otherwise

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>>135038859
blame on it....lel

>>135037698
20-30% is still quite high, and I mentioned elections from 1975 to 2015, you're just repeating teh two most recent ones, like I said

Let's see them. Date - PS - Commies
2015 - 32.8% - 22.8%
2011 - 23% - 16.8%
2009 - 31.9% - 23.1%
2005 - 49.3% - 13.5%
2002 - 40.5% - 9.1%
1999 - 48.4% - 9.6%
1995 - 49.6% - 7.8%
1991 - 31.2% - 7.2%
1987 - 24.9% - 10.9%
1985 - 22.3% - 15.4%
1983 - 43.2% - 18.6%
1980 - 34.7% - 18.6%
1979 - 34% - 23.5%
1976 - 44.6% - 17.1%
1975 - 45.4% - 23.8%

An outright majority for the left in most years, strong support for commies most of the time, and growing from a previous low. Even when the right won and they voted for tehm, they tend to vote on a smaller % than the country in general.

They were also the 5th region to vote more strongly in favor of abortion in 2007

>>135035510
Andalusians only care about gibs. That's why PSOE is so strong there, they keep all the gibs. I've family there, and they pay close to nothing while here (Madrid) we're taxed to hell and have to pay full prices or even more. Fuck. Them.

>>135037998
not by much tho, portugal is very homogeneous, far more than spain

>>135039071
The only thing wrong that Salazar and Franco did was not leaving any kind of lasting legacy or inspiring the newer generations into patriotism and identity.

Franco, at least, appealed to mature women, good God-fearing christians, a movement without future, without the revolutionary strength that a young male desires.

>>135039750
Salazar did leave a pretty good legacy. The newer generations think positively of him, and you can sometimes hear groups of young students chanting "Angola is ours!". It's almost as if there's a small crusade forming to take Angola back.

>>135037698
>Why doesn't it happen in Algarve?

It's because of historical implantation of the party, even Psd festival is always there in the summer(quarteira -pontal). The same way Madeira always and since ever votes Psd. Tradition, even the municipalities in algarve usually are rulled by majority psd

>>135034778
But politics aside the north is much more conservative, both in religion and culture. There's a reason why it's considered the soul of the country, and not just because it started there.

Geography plays a role too. Mountainous terrain makes for stronger people, physically and mentally, and there was always an historic divide between north and south independently fromt he reconquista

>>135041119
>But politics aside the north is much more conservative, both in religion and culture

I think the gap today it is interior vs litoral about conservative issues.
Historically, and much more before 1975, for example, i doubt trás- os-montes was more conservative than alentejo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKsS1JxZJJc

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It's even clearer when you look at a map of both countries together

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>>135029321
this

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>>135039418
>PS - Commies
>An outright majority for the left in most years, strong support for commies most of the time, and growing from a previous low. Even when the right won and they voted for tehm, they tend to vote on a smaller % than the country in general.

Genious. My congrats. Yes, they - poor people - in Alentejo would lean to vote a party near the ideological camp of their previous vote than extremes like voting CDS/PP. It's more about historical implantation of the parties and caciques. If look to Beja District/ Lower Alentejo - it's there are more singles owner of agricultural terrains.

Source of pic related: http://media.rtp.pt/memoriasdarevolucao/acontecimento/reforma-agraria/

Socialeconomic status of Alentejo population contributed to historical implantation of Communist Party (PCP) in that region plus caciques.

>>135045924
these numbers are for algarves, and they don't show people migrating from commies to socialists, it's rather the opposite

>>135028383
Who cares. Whole damn peninsula isn't white. It should be considered part of North Africa

Iberians are NOT white

>>135032560
Why is Andalusia left wing?

>>135047567
That you are not white jamal , that's pretty obvious. On the way around, every single place of the iberian peninsula is historically white.


>»Genetic distances and principal component analyses show a clear differentiation of NW African and Iberian groups of samples, suggesting a strong genetic barrier matching the geographical Mediterranean Sea barrier.]The restriction to gene flow may be attributed to the navigational hazards across the Straits, but cultural factors must also have played a role. ... Iberian samples show a substantial degree of homogeneity and fall within the cluster of European-based genetic diversity.»
Comas et al. 2000)

>>135048220
Pretty much all Moortugese and Spainiggers I've seen are brown as fuck

Seriously you guys look no different than Arabs or Berbers. You aren't white, you're darker than Italians and your country was ruled by Muslims for too long, I don't believe that didn't have an affect on your genetics

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>>135047567
Le 56% tries to niggersplain why we sre bot white

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>>135038322
>What have been noticed is that in alentejo, when the old people die, the vote goes to the center again. You can already notice that, in Evora and other towns there,... the old commie they "fought" against
kek I'm noticing right now.
>One the other way around, Lisbon and Porto are becoming more and more trendy left, probably cause they hae more immigration.
The left that is growing with immigrates and SJWs is Left Bloc (a Podemos like party), PAN and other meme parties 0,1-1%. Left Bloc (BE) can't capture the votes from labour unions and the rural people in Alentejo, can only capture the urban and caviar left.

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>>135049668
Iberian peninsula is 0% percent white though. These are your ancestors.

Why is it whenever I see people from your country you are brown as fuck?

>>135049545
800 years is not enough and if you knew Iberian story you would know that mixing in both societies was punishible by death

>>135049791
Maybe because you dont go to the mainland maybe you go to Ceuta and if they are still brown ill give you a hint
It has to do with a lot of hours in the sun

>>135049816
>north africans invade and rule various parts of Iberia for 800 years
>they DON'T rape

I don't believe this. Those people love rape, so they turned your people into their sex slaves and that's why you're all brown people now. You would go unnoticed in Saudi Arabia.

I bet if you took a dna test you would be 40% berber with some arab mixed in there. Probably black too

>>135049791
Besides according to every haplogrouo map we are R1b so we are mainly Celts or Iberians, what about you
Inb4 haplomeme
Every genetic map still refutes what you say

>>135050049
I've never been to your country but those I have seen from your country have looked like sandniggers

>>135050326
>mainly celts or iberians
>mainly

What's the rest?

>>135050551
You maybe went to either Ceuta or the Southern most parts of Andalucia
And no the muslim army that went here didnt even have settlers and were less than 3000 men,and even if they did the Asturians and the Aragonens BLEACHED them, because 800 years is not enough to make a dent in the local population
Ohh and personal experiences dont count as arguments

>>135050635
Baltics and a 1% of slavic descent

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>>135049545
Jamal................. you have to try a better/new wishfull thinking, that one is too much seen and has already been disassembled...... why? just because iberians are genetically separated from arabs or berbers.

>>135050551
Same fucking way Poland was once occupied by russians and germans
Does that mean they are germans and russians

>>135043661
Alentejo diaspora detected

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>>135046583
Because there always alternancy between the parties of governative arch: PSD + CDS/PP vs PS.

PS image got worn out because the previous PM of that party spent 9 months in prison plus some in domiciliary house arrest and it was also the main actor that lead us to national debt crisis in 2011.

You want a party to take out the austerity measures from Brussels, but you don't want to vote in the party that lead to that situation and is corrupt. PCP vote is half protest vote against the alternancy and a euroceptic vote.

>>135051427
>>135051578

Listen here north africans, you are NOT white. I don't care what your point are because everytime I see your people you look brown to me.

Also you spread your filthy culture and people to Mexico and mixed with those things too. Since you are like the modern founders of mexico you're not white. Lots of you are mixed with those disgusting people.

You aren't white because you look no different than the rest of the brown people in the world

>>135052308
Says the 56% meme and ill say it again
I can say you ameriniggers are 100% white but that doesbt change the fact that yiu are 56% white and dropping, you will be full if niggers, and how do you dissprove the fact that EVERY genetic map of europe disproves your argument

>>135052308
And if we are niggers how did we build a succesful empire even more powerful than britain at that era

>>135052661
America will never be ruled by muslims for 800 years. Iberians never were white honestly. Even if you're not that much mixed with north africans, the iberian people were always brown and not white

>>135052798
All the countries you colonized were even bigger niggers than you are and all those countries are disgusting now.

You guys never really did anything special. You colonized a lot and raped like the niggers you are a lot.

>>135032477
I thought the South had Muslim lover politicians that want to turn the cathedral of Cordoba into a multireligious center?

>>135052919
>Tries to niggersplain who is white and who isnt
>Doesnt work
>Gets cucked by a nigger
Let me guess southern europeans are not white by any chance neither are slavs righ?

>>135053108
>HURRR DURRR THE FIRST GLOBAL EMPIRE WAS IRRELEVANT BECAUSE YOUR NIGGERS BECAUSE MY EXPERIENCES SAYS SO
you forget one thing, niggers cannot build long lasting empires and we did that

>>135053108
I think you cant cope with the fact that your population is 56% white and tries to tell southern european countries that they are non white even though western civilization and most global empires came from SURPRISE southern europe

>>135028383
Sophistry, besides you're acting like Spain and Portugal have the same right/left paradigm as everyone else. The commies here are soviet-tier, not American liberals.

>>135047891
Loads of unskilled people that live of summer waiter jobs and winter gibsmedats

>>135053950
Triste pero verdad

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visiting Madrid soon, are spaniards racists against blacks?

>>135054622
Yes

>>135053250
No southern europeans are too mixed with arabs and niggers. Slavs are heavily mixed with Mongols.

>>135054622
Negrata sociata

>>135053791
Southern european countries are garbage you guys have low IQ's, nigger-tier culture and haven't been relevant for a long time

>>135054711
>Forgets that Rome had the first european empire and had influence in most western civilization
>forgets that most saxon and british tribes were nigger tier at that time
>calls us niggers

>>135054850
By that logic any country south to germany is basically full of niggers

>>135054683
:(

>>135054850
You forget that we spainards have an iq of 97, you must be thinking of albania and roaches

>>135052919
USA was ruled 8 by Obama. As in modern times things move faster, I would count them as those 800 years so we are even there

>>135053200
thats barcelona, also cordobas "cathedral" was one of the biggest mosques by that time that we just renamed as cathedral

>>135054850
>Nigger tier culture
We dont lick a cows asshole we only kill the bull in a graceful spectacle, and if we are such a shithole, dont come in summer untermesnchius burgerius

>>135055079
>>135055148

Lmao I was messing with you guys this whole thread. My dad is from Moortugal. I don't think you guys aren't white. Although I must say I've been to Portugal before and lots of people looked pretty brown. Like I went to Lebanon as well plenty of times from my moms family being from there and Lebanese peopel sometimes look whiter than Portugese

But I was joking around Iberian's are white

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>>135028383
Democracy would be a good tool for peaceful separatism.

>>135055449
Maybe if you stopped hanging around gypsies

>>135055449
Lol, mudblood.

>>135055691
Weren't gypsies my friend whole damn country looks brown

>>135055904
Not really at all. Both my mom and dads side are pretty much Mediterranean. My moms family is even whiter than my dads and she's middle eastern. Lebanon is practically like a Mediterranean country

>>135055241
Fascist best party...

>>135056053

aren't you actually talking about your country?

>>135056521
Brown folk only exist in the southwest, in what used to be Atzlan. Niggers are in the south and in cities

We're a big country, Moor

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>>135056053
If you think pic related is 'brown', then yes.

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>>135028383

oh noes

ISLAMO-GOMMUNISM

fug :DDD

>>135056824
Looks pretty brown to me desu

>>135056918
Then you've never met a favela monkey

>>135057506
Brazilians are a disgusting people, you created an abomination when making that country

>>135054850

Just ignore him. He's either trolling or ignorant towards history and genetics. Either way, he doesn't deserve the (you)s

>>135055449

"white" is such an autistic neologism and such a dead end as an identity. It is itself isn't explanatory or descriptive of anything except paleness. You could have genetically 100% portuguese people with blue eyes, pale skin and blonde hair or even gingers and then another person who is also 100% portuguese but is brown and has dark hair and eyes and even though they're the same race, you'll call one white and not the other. The REAL term we should be using is "European" instead of trying to group up Europeans into a "white" category which in itself just means pale. This cancer started in Anglo colonies as a way or people of European descent aggregating themselves with each other because they, like the Africans, didn't know their exact background, so they chose to just call themselves white because they couldn't call themselves European anymore.

>>135057684

Brazil was a great country. You talk about countries and whole cultures of people as if you were an expert on the history of said countries and didn't just see a few pictures and memes spread around. Then again, what more can I expect from /pol/.

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>>135056709
>white
>america
pick one

Next thing you tell me is that Obama is white as well

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>>135058236

nu(((pol))) sucs

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>>135028383

>>135050306
oh my god
you need to come here and see 4 yourself man, im not gonna convince you that we look nothing like a saudi, fix your ignorance man, looks bad

>>135061953
now see this >>135042986

>>135063871
y u change ur flag halfway through your thread?

>>135064128
y not?

>>135028383
the north knows