Give me one serious reason to believe in atheism.

>>135001695
we wuz real

me 1, u zer

>>135001815
Is that sarcasm or what ?

>>135001695
You don't, that's stupid. What you do is lack a belief in god(s), which includes "I don't know" see: agnostic atheism. Atheism also doesn't mean non-religious, there are many religions without gods.

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>>135002338
Atheism is currently a religion. They have own symbols, own church, even own preist. Get off with that bullshit.

I can't.

If you read and understand the big picture in the old and new testemants, and understand god's long running consistent displeasure with the elites feeding off the poor, the widows, the children, and then you see where we are today and where we are going, seeing the battle still raging, after 5000+ years, how could I possible tell you to stick you head in the sand and become an atheist?

The battle against an achieve evil will require all hands. The only way to understand the battle is to study God's word. To learn the right thing and do it at all costs.

> ancient battle played out on an anime board. Who'd a thunk it?

>>135002517
*even own priests

>>135001695
you might lose weight. FATTY. anime FATTY

>>135002517
Those are the irrational Atheists. Much like a bad apple, they ruin the whole bunch.

>>135001695
E U P H O R I A

>>135002720
So what atheist are good, you say.

>>135001695
Isn't atheism about disbelieving?

I'd suppose that God has given enough proofs of His existence so He doesn't need to give any more.

>>135001695
Best way to go about it is to identify as Christian in a cultural context, for heritage sake. But there's nothing wrong with scepticism. A Christian agnostic can never go wrong.

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>>135001695
None, atheism and secularism is the breeding ground for Faggotery and Islam.

>>135002942
You have to judge them individually, they are not a collective group, even though some would like to think so, like those atheist+ idiots.

>>135003611
No, it is a lack of belief. A person who has never heard of god or the concept of gods is an atheist. They don't have to actively disbelieve.

you shouldn't

If there's a god, why did he create the jews?

>>135004554
Thanks, /pol/bud

>>135001695
Christian ask you to take care of shitskin and nigger, when they come and ask for your help.

>>135001695
We don't have to
Go remain in Theism. it's much better there. Atheism is not for weak fucks who pray to get the things done, also it's depressing as fuck. It's not a religion where you find brothers to comfort you or someone to lean on, it's Individualistic.

>>135004643
He didn't. The serpent fucked Eve and she bore the Serpent's seed Cain; the founder of what is now the Jewish race.

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There’s no proof of atheism and there never will be.

>>135001695
That sentence makes no grammatical sense.

>>135001695
You don't "believe" in atheism. Atheism is for centrist cucks.

>>135004474
>They don't have to actively disbelieve.
>Based
This one gets it, splendid explanation there Abdul

>>135005192
Right you are.

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BTW godlessness leads to secularism, moral relativism, nihilism and hedonism and it’s the main reason why the west is dying.

Anyway, the concept of atheism was invented a psychological warfare meme to undermine and destroy ancient western civilisation; it's still working.

>>135005034
This flip gets it. I'm already fed up with tfw to intelligent pinoy atheists. I haven't seen any good atheists here in our fucking shithole, especially in that fucking capital Manila.

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>>135004643

YAHWEH thought he could use the Jews to get at the ancient cannanite gods and stop the practice of child sacrifice. He heard their cries in Egypt. After he rescued them from Pharoh and sent them to the promised land, the Jews adopted the gods that YAHWEH wanted destroyed, he realized he was wrong. It's all there in the Old and New Testaments.

The battle continues to this day.

> pic related

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>>135005412
should be the Quran

There isn't one, whilst there is no concrete belief in God there is certainly something to be gained from understanding the Cosmic Order that religion can give you.
Atheism is just nihilism which leads to degeneracy

Religious people are cucks. Plain and simple.

You get off to thought that you are worthless and that you gotta kiss an imaginary being's feet because of that.

Instead you could be leading happier lives without fear and delusion of something that doesn't exist.

>>135005777
Perhaps YAHWEH is here?

> checked

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The neutral position on the existence of God is agnosticism and not atheism.

>>135002942
Bernie Sanders, for instance.

>>135006251
Bullshit. Atheism leads to hedonism, depression and arrogance. Just think. If we live only once there is no reason to not be immoral hedonist, right ? Also if we live only once we should "use" our life in a best possible way. This may include violence.

>>135002517
You can call it 'organized atheism' and you can compare it in parallel to 'organized religion' but atheism is not and never will be a religion since religion is based on "belief". Atheism is by definition the lack of belief. They way you extrapolated atheism to seem like a religion because of the atheist movement is something you could do with any movement (LGBT, etc.) and call it a religion.

No atheism is not a religion.

>>135001695
>believe in atheism
Atheism isn't belief, atheism is absention of belief.

>>135006402
From all of the philosophical stances and beliefs about God like deism, theism and atheism, atheism is defiantly the weakest.

>>135006757
>>135006833
You believe that God doesn’t exist. That the universe is godless.

>>135006402
>The neutral position on the existence of God is agnosticism and not atheism.
Agnosticism and atheism are not compareable, they are answer to different questions.
Atheism answers the question "Is God real?"
Agnosticism answers the question "Can we know if God is real?"

>>135006757
No. Atheism is based on faith, we don't know do there is a unobservable creator outside the universe. Atheism is a belief and religion.

>>135006982
Agnosticism says that we don’t know if God exists or not and atheism says we know that God doesn’t exist.

>>135006946
>You believe that God doesn’t exist. That the universe is godless.
False. You're confused.

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>>135006982
This.

>>135007195
Wrong.

>>135007553
Naaah

>>135001695
You don't believe in atheism, wacko.

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>>135001695
Use logic

>>135007195
>Agnosticism says that we don’t know if God exists or not and atheism says we know that God doesn’t exist.
False. Agnosticism deals with knowledge, Atheism deals with belief. An atheist lacks the belief in a deity, and an agnostic thinks it's impossible to know either way. Most atheists are also agnostics.

>>135005829
>You must prove a negative
Wel then, prove that Zeus doesn't exist. Or Odin, or Allah, or Krishna.
By that logic, all gods ever conceived exist.

>>135006651
>Bullshit. Atheism leads to hedonism, depression and arrogance
No it does not. And I don't know if you realize but hedonism and depression are kind of the opposite of each other.

>Just think. If we live only once there is no reason to not be immoral hedonist, right ?
There is also no reason to be one. Why waste the only life you have?

>Also if we live only once we should "use" our life in a best possible way. This may include violence.
Everyone lives their lives the best way possible and yes this sometimes does include violence that's how the fucking world works.
I don't get it, are you so deluded to think religious people never initiate violence just because they believe in god?

I think the best part of religion is the community.

This is what makes religion great.

At the same time, I completely think that God is a fairy tale, and if you believe in Him, you're a child that needs handholding. Grow the fuck up, you don't believe in the Easter Bunny or Santa Claus.

Can atheists prove that they exist?

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>>135007614
>>135006982
>>135007195
>>135005747
>I'd like to know you're opinions on this

>>135007966
You said no arguments. You just dissagreed with me with no any proof. And Christian religion is based on love to each other if you don't know. And no, depression and hedonism does not are against itself.

>>135008165
I think therefore I am.

Give me a serious reason to believe your ancient desert dweller stories.

Actually, it is incumbent on people to restrain themselves from doing evil!

The devil hates evil people.

>>135007818
Bullshit. Atheism is a rejection of all gods, not just some.

>>135008377
It will make you happier because you will know that there are something wainting for you afte yourr death.

>>135008299
Ha, ha, ha that was Descartes conclusion after he failed to prove to himself that he existed.

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>>135008299
Decartes wasn't an atheist

>>135008420
There's a chance you're intellectually subnormal.

>>135007084
Nope, atheism is based on lack of evidence.
There is absolutely no evidence of god anywhere so it probably doesn't exist.

That's also why you gotta rehearse your faith and chant prayers over and over.
You'll easily lose faith if you don't willingly put effort in order to delude yourself.

>>135005192
Faggot, prove that there's a God. You make a claim that fucking bold, you prove it. I don't have to prove shit. If I claim the Lockness monster exists, you'd expect me to show proof. Not for you to disprove my retarded theory.

>>135008587
What's your point?

>>135008420
>he doesn't get its meaning

>>135008182
This is just a question regarding the ethics of a God.
What I personally think is that if a God were to exist, he wouldn't be an omnipotent good being, but rather a creator god that doesn't really care about us.
>>135008165
I can think. My mind exists at the very least.

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>>135007818
Entirely this. Religion is good and healthy for a society, even if everyone doesn't believe. Still, you would have to be retarded to think it's not bullshit, and that the one you just happened to be given is true and everyone else's is not.

>>135008615
>No evidence
You are either stupid or bigoted. World is too beautiful to create itself. Same with universe. Also there are many weird situations such as paranormal events that can't be explained.

>>135008293
>And Christian religion is based on love to each other if you don't know.
Yet you have Christians who kill, steal or commit otherwise immoral things.
You claimed Christianity makes everyone docile because of Christian belief but that's simply wrong.

>And no, depression and hedonism does not are against itself.
Hedonism - Doing whatever makes you happy.
Depression - Deep prolonged sadness

Why would doing what makes you happy make you depressed? I don't get it.

>>135008182
This material existence is a training exercise; those who pass go to heaven; those who fail go to a glorified garbage dump.

>>135001695
Atheism is a good stepping stone from the religion you were born into and free thinking about spirituality and deeper shit.

>>135001695
Because destroying western civilization is FUN!

>>135001695
It uses logic.

Not even an atheist, but you can't really fault them for just using logic.

Kurwa

>>135008377
1 In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.
2 The earth was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.
3 And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light. - Genesis 1:1-3

> Big Bang

>>135008939
>World is too beautiful to create itself
>paranormal events
faggot detected.

>>135009112
Makes sense? Don't dig too deep into our existence, all you'll do is find more dirt and waste what you have in first place trying to find more.

>>135007936
If you claim that God does not exist, you will have to prove that. Unless you can, you're just a "blind follower", and a religion.

At least agnostics claim that we do not currently know, but atheists flat out denies the existence of a God without being able to prove it.

Christians can prove that the Bible is the true Word of God.

>>135008809
Although, modern science doesn't believe this. They think that conciousness is a product of electrical and chemical processes and that it is but an illusion.

More fool they.

>>135009060
Whats weird with doing something funny while being depressed, tell me ?

>>135009426
>Christians can prove that the Bible is the true Word of God.
No, they can claim that it is. Which the entire bible is nothing buy a collection of cherry picked writings and stories. So they are wrong automatically.

>>135009426
>agnostic
>atheist
>pick 2
see
>>135006982
>>135007614

>>135001695
Atheism is not a belief. You are profoundly under informed.

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>>135009426
>If you claim that God does not exist, you will have to prove that.

>>135008939
>World is too beautiful to create itself. Same with universe
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The world doesn't fucking care if you think it's beautiful or not, it's inanimate.
Feeling that world is beautiful is entirely in your head and not an intrinsic property of the universe. If you still think the world is beautiful look at war torn regions, ebola, etc. and you might get a different perspective.

>Also there are many weird situations such as paranormal events that can't be explained
Nearly always a product of human imagination and if not it pretty much gets explained by science in time.

Asserting something that cannot be explained in order to explain what cannot be explained lol - such a religious thing to do.

>>135007614
By this definition agnostic atheism is just atheism but you admit that you have no proof for your beliefs. Cmon brah that’s illogical. Agnosticism and atheism are the opposites. One is making a statement that God doesn’t exist and one is saying that we don’t know if he really doesn’t. Don’t you see the contradiction?
>>135008651
So no proof that God doesn’t exist ok.

>>135009704
It's silly to say that you're an "agnostic atheist", it's more like an "atheistic agnostic", but even so, you're not an atheist just because you claim that you lean towards the idea that God does not exist.

Be an agnostic if you want to, but remember that God will forgive you if you just reach out and believe on him. Even atheists can be saved. The only people who can not be saved according to the Bible are people who are of a reprobate mind and have become homosexuals.

>>135009494
>Although, modern science doesn't believe this. They think that conciousness is a product of electrical and chemical processes and that it is but an illusion.
I didn't say anything against that. My conciousness might be an illusion, but still that illusion exists.

>>135009426
>Christians can prove that the Bible is the true Word of God.
HAHAHA, sure thing buddy. How the fuck do they prove that? Go back to the source material? You mean that book that's over 2000 years old, that has been translated 2-3 times, and which was written some decades after the original events?

I believe in the Lockness monster. It's up to you to prove that it isn't real. It's not on me to verify my retarded claim.

How does a divine entity demonstrate his existence to His creation?

>>135009829
You aren't right but even if you are, no proof doesn't matter that something doesn't exist. People in medieval times doesn't got a proof that earth is a sphere but it turned out to be true.

>>135009961
If he's supposed to be an all-knowing and an all-powerful being, then I'd guess that he'll know what to do.

>>135009961
There are literally an infinite amount of things you could do, unless that divine entity lacks an imagination, or the ability to ruminate.

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>>135001695
And here you go OP.

>>135010332
The pope must be Jewish, it's almost like Cuckstianity was made by (((them))).

>>135010332
They're just faking it; there is no such thing as a good atheist. Copying the outward form whilst missing the inner reality!

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>>135009951
1) The Bible says that it is the pure word of God, and that God's word can not be destroyed.

2) The Bible is the best preserved ancient text in human history, being 99% identical between manuscripts for over 2 millenia. Such a perfect preservation is not possible based on the quantity of manuscripts. The only explanation is that the Holy Ghost was guiding them.

3) The Old Testament literally predicts in minute detail the events that later happened in the New Testament. It predicts in detail Jesus' coming, death, burial and resurrection.

4) The Old and New Testaments cross-reference each other thousands of times.

5) The events in the Bible are proven to be historically accurate.

6) Jesus prophecy of Jerusalem and the Jewish temple being destroyed came true.

7) Etc.

>>135001695
I prayed God to fix my broken leg.

Nothing happened.

I prayed again

Nothing happened


I don't think anyone is listening...

>>135010612
Good points, but i guess all the fedoras won't even try to check it

>>135010767
I prayed to God that hitchens die painfully.

He listened... :)

>>135010767
Same thing when i prayed to Allah

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>>135010612

>>135010767
Is your leg still broken? God doesn't have fix broken legs; they fix themselves.

>>135010928
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, good troll, Irishfag

>>135010870
Hitchens didn't die painfully though. He had cancer medication and probably painkillers.
>>135010889
I prayed to all of them. Noone is home.

>>135010789
That post is taking the piss. If you can't read between the lines well enough to know that, I can totally see how you'd believe the bullshit in the Holy Texts.

>>135010986
Your belief level wasn't high enough, you need to train everyday and pay 100 shekels to your (((church))) everyday
.

>>135010037
>You aren't right but even if you are
About what and why?

>no proof doesn't matter that something doesn't exist. People in medieval times doesn't got a proof that earth is a sphere but it turned out to be true
>there is no proof of something
>therefore ITS REAL
Are you retarded or what? I could claim to know why universe is expanding and I could accidentally be proven right that doesn't mean I "knew" why it was expanding. For every idea someone accidentally gets right without evidence there is statistically a billion of ideas that were wrong.

>>135010580
I believe it was infiltrated and hi-jacked by (((them))) but (((they))) did not create it.

Jews need Cheistianity; it gives them something to kick against and achieve self-definination.

>>135010870
>weaponized god

>>135011266
Dumbass. I never said its real. I just said its possible to be real.
>Billion of ideas to be wrong
Sure, but its possible after all to God exist.

>>135010986
On a serious note, Why do you create race baiting threads and Ottoman superiority threads? don't you get tired doing that?

>>135003978
>atheism is the breeding ground for Islam
lolwat they hate each other you know that?

>>135011641
*Science did not dissaprove God :) Espeically that Jesus existed for real

>>135009942
If it's real then it isn't an illusion; if it's an illusion then it isn't real.

To me consciousness is reality.

>>135010789
> 5) The events in the Bible are proven to be historically accurate.

That means Noah put between 2million - 50 million different species of animal on his boat. We couldn't build a boat that big today. We're still discovering new species every year, but some old dude ~4000 years ago managed to gather up 2-3 of every kind, and put them on a boat he built himself. Sure thing buddy.

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>>135001695
science

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>>135011687
I like doing it. Gives me a chance to post the memes I collected you know.

>>135001695
Atheism is the opposite of feeling and believing. Try being skeptical.

>>135009426

So not believing that Bigfoot exists is a religion now?

>>135012006
>fedoras think that atheism is a scientific stance and not a philosophical stance
Atheism has nothing to do with science.

umm sweetie you sound like a buttannihilated jewloving christ-cuck ;)

>>135011641
>the chances of god being real are miniscule (close to none).
>but, as you can see, it's not zero.
>so let's assume he's real anyway.

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>>135001695
I think that atheism isn't a religion but an empty void in society that will inevitably get filled with... something. Islam seems to be the biggest contender considering how they're treated by progressives and the media. It's truly unfortunate, I'd much rather live in a Christian-dominated society.

>>135012169
I used to think that until the atheists fighting Christianity started defending Islam en masse.

>>135001695
>blabla bla. Makes stupid statement
(Insert logical argument here)
>I'm retarded either way

>>135012213
Of course its not :) But when thousands of people starts to worship some people (Dawkins, Hitchens), create own symbols (Atheism symbol A), and want to convert other people into it - Yes its a religion.

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There is only one reason.

>>135001695
None.

>>135012405
Czy ty jesteś fedorą ?

>>135010612
>1) The Bible says that it is the pure word of God, and that God's word can not be destroyed.
Yes and the Quran says that the Quran is word of God. Your point here?

>2) The Bible is the best preserved ancient text in human history, being 99% identical between manuscripts for over 2 millenia. Such a perfect preservation is not possible based on the quantity of manuscripts. The only explanation is that the Holy Ghost was guiding them.
There's lots of literature older than the Bible that has been preserved through the ages. New Testament was written during Classical Age and we have loads of literature from that time. Wikipedia has a pretty good list for this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_literature

>3) The Old Testament literally predicts in minute detail the events that later happened in the New Testament. It predicts in detail Jesus' coming, death, burial and resurrection.
Isaiah 7:14
And basically do you have any proof that the Apostles didn't just write the life of Christ to be fitting with the old stories. You could say these things from many other religious books too.

>4) The Old and New Testaments cross-reference each other thousands of times.
Yeah, religious books do that.

>5) The events in the Bible are proven to be historically accurate.
Some of them are and some of them are not. The flood myth for example is not true according to modern science. This doesn't prove anything.

>6) Jesus prophecy of Jerusalem and the Jewish temple being destroyed came true.
Yeah, and many other prophecies didn't came true.
Isaiah 52:1
Matthew 16:28

>7) Etc.
?

>>135012251
But science deals with the real world.
If you ever started claiming that your god isn't a product of your imagination but that he's real you're entering the realm of scientific scrutiny and we know how that'll turn out.

>>135010193
>>135010300
I can think of thre ways:

1) personally speak to man who is capable of hearing.

2) physically incarnate in the material realm.

3) tell His people in advance what is going to happen before it does.

>>135012621
Who said God is not real ? World is really beautiful, its pretty possible that God exists.

>>135011732
>If it's real then it isn't an illusion; if it's an illusion then it isn't real.
You kinda misunderstood me. In real life you can see mirages for example, they are not "real", but still you can say they exist. Same way even if the mind is just an illusion it still must exists at some level.

atheism is for cucks, if you really think that god isn't real and that thinking god is real makes you "stupid" I hate to break it to you but you're an idiot, jump off the band wagon folks and think for yourself's, atheism is for retards agnostic theism is for true smart people.

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>>135012621
You are actually retarded if you think atheism has anything to do with science.

>>135012829
>Who said God is not real ?
You did >>135011641
>I never said its real

>World is really beautiful, its pretty possible that God exists
Been over this >>135009829

Lmao you don't have anything more to say. BTFO.

>>135013080
Guy has a point, atheism is only a belief, not a fact, you fedora tipper, many sciencists believe in God and what ? It still doesn't make them unscientific

>>135013314
Nothing more to say ? You atheists all time claim that evolution is beautiful but you deny that it can be beautiful for someone else ? LOL PWND

>>135013010
atheism is for cucks? You do realise that almost every religion revolves around an eternity of servitude to someone more powerful than you, right? I mean, i could be unclear on the definition of Cuck but I'm pretty sure you need to be at least Beta to willing to become a servant.

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>>135013080
I'm sorry but science implies atheism.

>>135013010
>atheism is for cucks
Indeed, LaVeyan Satanism is the least cucked way of living.

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>>135013644
>this is what fedoras believe
I’m sorry but it doesn’t.

>>135001695
you can abort children and don't need to have any morality. (you still have to lie and pretend that atheists can be moral though)

>>135013491
Well if we don't serve of our own volition we will be forced to serve or be punished. If God exists and is good, it's better to serve than to be punished. Should God be real, it's either serve him or be punished.

>>135006757
Atheism is a belief... Not a lack of belief.

If someone believe that pandas do not exist then they don't have a lack of belief. They have beliefs in a lot of different things to come to that conclusion.

Atheism is the belief that there is no God.

>>135013469
Something being beautiful has fuck all with something being real.

Actually, I take that last one back.

I found fucking your mom beautiful therefore the event was real lmao (your logic)

>>135013491
yes you are indeed a cuck, the fact that you got butthurt over me saying "cuck" proves that you are indeed a cuck.

>>135014100
>Atheism is a belief... Not a lack of belief.

This is true, so why are religious people considered the cucks?

>>135013491
"look at me ima so alpah i donut worship anythang includin gawd hurr derr" kys

>>135014100

More like disbelief.

>>135001695
>You atheists all time claim that evolution is beautiful but you deny that it can be beautiful for someone else ?
Noone claims that, I'm also pretty sure that you wouldn't think something you hate is beautiful.

>>135013976
Even if god was real, and as an atheist i am open to the possibility of being proven wrong, I wouldn't serve him anyway. I would rather be dead than a slave. Can you genuinely say you are open to the possibility that you are wrong or have you been so brainwashed that you think any of those thoughts will get you punished. It really is slavery and abuse and it saddens me that people like you can't see it.

>>135014426
An unnecessary clarification. Disbelief is the just the belief that something doesn't exist. It is still a belief.

>>135001695
>One good reason.
You are accountable for your own well being.
There are no gods to help you, no divine beings to send the storms your way, no demons of pestilence bent on giving you AIDS.
You need to help yourself and take control of your own life, the storms are forces of pure chance that no amount of prayer can't stop, and if you don't want AIDS then stop being a faggot.
You are responsible for your own life. It is not easy, but it is satisfying in ways different from religion.

>>135014551
your autistic

>>135005829
Leibniz already proved the existence of god. Atheists are just living a delusion peddled by the Jews to keep them ignorant nihilistic hedonists paralysed with disbelief

>>135014597
So what do you call the religion that specifically disbelieves zues?

>>135002517
If atheism is a religion, then not collecting stamps is a hobby.

>>135014406
"hurr durr evryone who is not chrstin is a fedora wearing man"

>>135013822
I'm sorry but it does.
Your fallacy is that you think the opposite holds as well so you post strawman pictures and to show contratiction you correlate them with science since "atheism has something to do with science" supposedly.

But I didn't claim atheism is science, nor did I claim anything being atheistic implies scientific, I only said the opposite which is scientific implies atheistic because science isn't based on blind belief but reality.

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>>135014551
>Even if god was real I wouldn't serve him anyway. I would rather be dead than a slave.

>>135014931
Haha resorting to petty insults

>>135014796
Yelling how stupid those are who collect stamps can be a hobby though.

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>>135014864
Atheism is blind belief you fedora wearing retard.

>>135007966
Hedonism is the pursuit of pleasure. People who are depressed resort to hedonism to cope with their depression. Hedonism much like a drug develops a tolerance which makes the depression worse. Hedonistic lifestyles are also self destructive which leads to depression. Hedonism and depression go hand in hand

>>135014837
lol who ever said I was a christian?

>>135014551
> have you been so brainwashed that you think any of those thought would get you punished. [?](you forgot the question mark)

no one who believes in God thinks that struggling with his existence is worthy of punishment. Most people i know would say that the lack of struggle is evidence of lack of heartfelt belief. If i am a created being, made by God (i believe he is the god of the Bible), then why shouldn't i serve (even enslave myself) to the authority of the being who gave me life and love? It isn't abuse for a child to submit themselves to the authority of a parent, who made the child.

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>>135015001
Listen to yourself you absolute mong.

>>135015077
Nope, it's just not deluding yourself and taking the world at face value rather than adding imaginary beings to "reality".

>>135015185
>Someone was mean to me on the internet, I should probably treat them with respect and take their words seriously.

>>135014551
>I would rather be dead than a slave
God will claim your soul after you die, stupid.

>>135014864
you're whole argument falls apart, because athiesm is the belief that there is no deity. science doesn't imply anything. science is data. humans piece together belief through science. personally you can say that you are an athiest because you believe that scientific data leads you to that conclusion.

>>135015376
That would be a Christian thing to do, after all Christ said love thy enemy but alas most Christians aren't, dare I say, "real Christians".

>>135015533
>love thy enemy
>dash their heads against the rocks
>keep their daughters for your own
okay.jpeg

>>135015456
Yep ok dude. Thanks for the heads up

>>135015787
convert now

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>>135015283
Nah it’s blindly believing in something with zero evidence.

>>135015456
I sold my soul for 3 bitcoins but it can be yours for 5.

>>135015846
Or what? Wait let me guess, Some sort of eternal punishment, no that's not abuse at all is it!?

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>>135015895
>Nah it’s blindly believing in something with zero evidence.
do you know how stupid you sound unironically saying that as a christcuck?

>>135016011
Punishment for crime is abuse?

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>>135016054
>"You too"

>>135016120
What crime? I used a brain that you believe was given to me by a higher power to deduce that in the absence of evidence he doesn't exist. My crime was that i wasn't gullible?

>>135015895
>atheism has 0 evidence.
>believes in a 2000 year old jew on a stick, with exactly 0 real evidence.
gj anon

>>135015457
Nope, science isn't open to interpretation unlike your holy texsts.
If you collect some numbers and make random hypothesis about those numbers you aren't doing science, you're doing guess work.
If can decisevely tell where those numbers come from and form a theory that can predict those numbers then you're doing science.

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>>135001695
fuck off shill
sage

>>135001695

> Believe in atheism

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>>135016365
>"Y-you too"

>>135015746
>>keep their daughters for your own
I am okay with this.
>Everyone is my "enemy" in some form or another.
>This includes the Fundies who claim to follow the Bible word for word.
>Bash them in the head with a rock.
>Get to keep their daughters as my own.
>Teach them the glorious ways of atheism.
And they can't complain too much because it's their own religious teachings.
If they did, they would have to admit their Bible and, by extension their God, is fallible.
If they didn't, free daughters.

>>135016321

i shouldn't have used the word "crime"

if god is real and he has told us what is good, and then we do what he has told us is not good, is punishment unwarranted?

>>135003978

> Atheism is the breeding ground for Islam

You can't make this level of dumb up.

>>135016244
Meme isn't an argument, lol

>>135016380
but it's only "random hypothesis" when it has to do with religion right?

>>135001695
Give me a single reason why a religion is less wrong that the thousands of religion it negates... other than "I believe that the time, place and family I was born in had the one true religion".

>>135016380
>If you collect some numbers and make random hypothesis about those numbers you aren't doing science.
Yes, thats right. But if you really think thats how scientists operate then you're retarded.

>>135016618
its a sign of mental illness that the anon has so many pictures of ppl wearing hats on his computer lol
How does he think it rebutts atheism??

>>135012429

> having e-celebts is the same as worship

/pol/ is thus split between LaurenSouthernism and ALaurenSouthernism.

> create own symbols (Atheism symbol A),

Oh shit. A symbol. I saw a symbol for a store when I went to get some food to make dinner, it must be a religion

> and want to convert other people into it

TIL if you have a POV and you want to convince others of it, you're a religion.

Now do some atheists take it to religious levels? Sure. I was that kind of atheist. But you're no better when you act like this.

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>>135016821
Okay give me one evidence for atheism you disgusting obese fedora wearing freaks.

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>>135010612
>le god is real
*tips bible*

>>135016940
>okay give me one evidence

so far they've only said "science implies it"

>>135016564
Religious apathy = longing for spiritualism. This is why you see European losers who go to fight for ISIS in Syria. They are craving to do something for a greater ideal than something material. When European Christianity died the European identity died with it and with that came all the gay Propaganda and LGBT, globalism, easy divorce, feminism, less masculinity, communism, extreme progressivism and so on

>believe in atheism
You shouldn't believe in anything you can't prove through evidence. Always default to skepticism until proven thoroughly otherwise.

>>135017035
>the gay hating desert cult left and then the gay hating desert cult part 2 came in, AND MADE US ALL LIKE GAYS
That's fucking nonsense.
Religion is for the mentally ill

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>>135017005

>>135016940

You're existence. God wouldn't have made someone as dumb as you.

>>135017071
Thanks for your post-Enlightenment liberal input.

>>135017128
>memeing
God is totally real u guys my mommy said so

>>135016940
Atheism is not a belief, it is simply a lack of belief in religion. The burden is on to prove religion.

You have a hat fetish or smth??

>>135016523
Have you ever asked yourself "what if he is not real, and i am following the ramblings of bronze age desert dwellers?" I urge you to genuinely study evolution, not just listen to your church buddies badmouth it and consider that evidence enough for god. Actually pick up the science books you criticise and read them. Look at your own religious texts critically and if you still believe after this then best wishes to you.

>>135016940
Zero interaction with any gods in the past 20 centuries.
Last claimed interaction is only based on a book, which describes non-existent floods, repopulation via incest and other miracles.

>>135017035
>European losers who go to fight for ISIS in Syria You mean Muslims in Europe. The real issue was the cancer that was National Socialism ruining nationalism for all of Europe.
>>135017160
Are you trying to insult me here by using the word liberal? Superstitions shouldn't be entertained.

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>>135017187
You're not angry with me, you're angry with God.

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>>135017125
>Religion is for the mentally ill
I BELIEVE that one you will look for something spiritual above the material world and I hope that you will not fall for hippy new-age religion but find Jesus Christ.

>>135017132 >>135016940

no arguments so they insult kek

>>135010612

> The Bible says the Bible is true

Welp.

> The Bible is the best preserved...

Outright untrue. The Code of Hammurabi, way older, the Bhagavad Gita (sp), way older.

> The Old Testment predicts...

... Things that are written later that you can't prove to be true, and sometimes don't even match. A prophecy that is referring to something else already is retroactively made to fit Jesus.

> The Old and New Testaments cross-reference each other thousands of times.

... Yeah, and? The New Testament is supposed to be the fulfiment of the old one, while Jews don't believe the messiah's come yet, so of course it would?

> The events in the Bible are proven to be historically accurate.

I do remember that worldwide flood thing being t- oh no it isn't.

>Jesus prophecy of Jerusalem and the Jewish temple being destroyed came true.

If Jesus' prophecies were true, the world would have ended already.

"There are some here who will not pass before the Son of Man has returned" or something.

>>135017343
You're not angry with me,
You're angry that momma makes you practice her religion.
poor anon :(

>>135017343
>jesus love you so much you get tortured for eternity for not loving him back
In society we call that mental illness.

>>135017224
no its a disbelief in a deity. not religion.

>>135017343

> Having an ego this big

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>>135017258
Jesus Christ newfag learn how to use meme arrows. No I mean Europeans with a Christian background that go to fight in Syria for ISIS.
>The real issue was the cancer that was National Socialism ruining nationalism for all of Europe
Please read a book it's painful. Do you agree with Hitler's policies?

>>135001695
>believe atheism

You don't believe it.

NuAtheists are trying to make a non-position into an actual position. It's fucking dumb, and anybody who falls for that religious or otherwise is fucking dumb as well.

>>135017374

Because you were asking a stupid question.

>>135017513
Made a mistake and suddenly you're attacking my typos. Great arguing.
>No I mean Europeans with a Christian background that go to fight in Syria for ISIS.
How many really do this? If you've noticed its almost always someone of middle eastern descent. You're buying into liberal propaganda if you think its just Europeans who are doing this and not the immigrants almost exclusively
>Please read a book it's painful
I disagree with Germany's aggression and imperialism trampling on their fellow Europeans. German nationalism = destruction of European diversity and culture.

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>>135001695
>believe in atheism

>>135017612
why is asking to support atheism stupid?

are you afraid of a belief that contradicts yours? or are you the one who blindly believes something?

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>being a bible cuck
>Not studying the true Holy Book
LOL

>>135008182
That is assuming that God is inheritely good. An evil God could still exist.

>>135016646
>>135016770
I didn't say guesswork isn't an invaluable tool which directs the flow of science.
Of course scientists aren't going to try and prove something scientifically if they don't initially believe something could be true.

But there is a difference between a guess and an educated guess.
If god ever actually becomes a provable hypothesis that can be incorporated in science in order to explain some phenomena it'll be taken seriously as a theory.
But so far god is used to explain exactly zero things in science even though the idea has been around for millenia. Hmm. I sure wonder why.

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>>135017224
Atheism is a belief that the universe is godless. This is a claim that requires evidence and the burden of proof is on them. It’s not a neutral stance. Both theism and atheism make a claim about the existence of God.
>>135017253
Not a proof of gaytheism sorry bro.

>>135017481
Jesus died for your depraved sins, it's up to you whether you will accept his free gift of salvation. He wants you to be saved... it's such an easy choice.

>>135017800
> german ETHNOcentrism = destruction of European diversity and culture

sorry this has nothing to do with religion

>>135017593
>NuAtheists are trying to make a non-position into an actual position
Nope, it wasn't NuAtheists who made that distinction it was religious folks who identified atheists as a group worthy of hate.

>>135018083
>being this autistic and gullible
Yeah and Santa is real too.
Better be a good boy this year, anon.

>>135018083

> We're reasonable guys here, see? We just want the best for you. Just give us the money and there won't be any accidents, see?

Is Jesus' surname Gambino or something?

>>135017800
Of course immigrants are the main volunteer force but the interesting thing is that Europeans that are outcasts of society go there and fight for ISIS and the only explanation is that they are really looking for a explanation to their life and to die for a higher glorious cause.
>I disagree with Germany's aggression and imperialism trampling on their fellow Europeans. German nationalism = destruction of European diversity and culture
They taught you that in public school? Give me the example of Germans ethnically destroying Europeans in favour of non-Europeans like the current goverment of Germany is doing.

>>135017995
>This is a claim that requires evidence and the burden of proof is on them
The lack of evidence is evidence itself. And you are losing this race by several miles.

>>135017900
This. Praise Baphomet. Satanism is the True Path. Christ is a jewish hoax cuck.

>>135017995
>The only book that speaks for the existence of god is fake.
>Said god exists because that book says so.
You seem to be exceptionally smart.

>>135018226
>but the interesting thing is that Europeans that are outcasts of society go there and fight for ISIS and the only explanation is that they are really looking for a explanation to their life and to die for a higher glorious cause
Give me a list of people then who are doing this if its so prevalent. It should be easy since you're so confident in it.
>Give me the example of Germans ethnically destroying Europeans in favour of non-Europeans
So it's okay if they oppress the Czechs and Poles as long as they're being replaced with Germans?

>>135017995
>fixed
Anti-santaism is a belief that the universe is santaless. This is a claim that requires evidence and the burden of proof is on them. It’s not a neutral stance. Both santaism and ant-santaism make a claim about the existence of santa.

>>135002587

9000+ but yes.

>>135017995
Wrong. You dont know if a nigger is hiding under your bed but there is no reason for you to believe there is one there. Its the same for deities. There is no reason to believe one exists. The burden of proof is on theists.

>>135012434
Except that makes no sense...

Good retardation there Goy.

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>>135004643
He didn't. The modern Jews are just a perversion of Christianity. Christianity is the true religious succession of Abraham. Just like the Muslims, Jews only exist because they deny Christ.

>>135018501
>Czechs and Poles
And it's okay for the czechs to steal german land where germans have lived for thousand of years? Same thing with Poland but they even first beat germans in the referendums early 20's and then started murdering them in the late 30's. What if Mexico from tomorrow owned California, Texas and Arizona because a foreign power occupied your country and demanded that be so?

>>135018662
>tfw you spend 30 minutes making an epic meme against atheism but your daddy calls you in to pray and suck his cock so you have to rush through it
Being xtian is hard in the west :(

>>135018083
Sorry, but Gilgamesh's story is way cooler than yours. I too can die on a stick and claim that I'm holy.

>>135017593
/thread

I sleep in on sunday so fuck church

>>135018083
>free gift of salvation
>if you dont accept this free decision guide i'll burn down your house and kill your daughters!

>>135001695
When you start being a practisioning atheist, you stop being an atheist.

>>135018781
>Czechs
>Stole land
>Poland
>Stole land
Those countries were formed after empires collapsed after WW1. You're practically admitting then that the oppression of these people is just autistic butthurt for losing the last war.

>>135018663

If God exists, why did he allow the Jews?

>>135016940

> The world isn't perfect
> said every fedora wearing atheist ever

>>135018949
Mysterious ways and all that

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>>135001695
>Give me one serious reason to believe in atheism.

If you had a painful, bloody urination right now would you put your faith in God and go to church, or would you put your faith in science and go to a doctor?

Science wins every time.

3/10 troll harder newfag.

>>135001695
If you, I assume Catholic Roman believer, would be put in XV century Europe, you would be burned for heresy by the Catholic pope.

>>135018320
If we assume that that there’s no evidence for God as the gatheists say that’s no evidence for atheism. That’s agnosticism.
>>135018467
This is at best a very weak and arrogant argument against Christianity. This doesn’t have anything to do with the the truthfulness of atheism. Better luck next time gaytheist
>>135018579
>santa and an omnipotent creator that’s possibly undetectable to humans is totaly comperable bro

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>>135018934
>Those countries were formed after empires collapsed after WW1
They really didn't teach you anything? Do you even understand how a minority of millions lived in the Austo-Hungarian empire one day and the next some jews in Versailles decide they now live Czechoslovakia?

>>135001695
>believe in atheism
> atheism is a religion
kill yourself

>>135019104
Yah but the sad thing is there are people who would go to church instead of a doctor, and worse still, children have died because their parents faith was just so gosh darn .

>>135019241

Santa is an omnipowerful being don't you dare disrespect him.

>>135019008
>When Jesus sacrificed himself to remove all sin from the world
>Still millions of sinners all over the world.

Good meme. I thought Jesus took away all of the sins and wicked people from the world? If there are no wicked people after Jesus died how the fuck do you explain all of the genocide and mass murder that has happened since then?

Ohh shit you can't can you? I am not Atheist BTW I am Agnostic Theist. I think there is a god but you Christians are so fucking blinded by the thought it is your god and only your god.

Atheists are absolutely clueless but just as clueless as you Christians are.

>>135019405
This.
The Followers of Christ cultists in Idaho are some of the most fanatic ones. many of their kids die but they never learn.

>>135001695
A delusional belief of being free from God and responsibilities. An empty hedonistic self-serving life devoid of purpose and fulfillment and constant depravity to suppress a guilty conscience for sinning/rejecting Jesus Christ.

>>135012614
>1
quran has no historical basis, it was written by one person with schizophrenia

>2
Short fragments of text. Do you have anything that parallels the Old Testament in length, and was copied hundreds of times word-for-word without any errors being made, not just a preserved clay tablet?

>3 and 4
4 similar but different accounts of the Gospel add credibility, it proves there wasn't collusion between them. If four independent people testify in a court of law to the same thing with slightly different perspectives, it's seen as very strong evidence that it actually happened. Given how much detail is included, its basically impossible for their stories to "coincidentally" line up if they made it up, and they weren't aware of each other's accounts when they wrote it (in different parts of the Roman Empire)

>flood
"modern science" has almost no idea what happened early in Earth's history (seriously, try looking up anything beyond vague details for the Hadean era). Also, nice facts you've included with your claim, really makes your argument stand out.
>Isaiah 7:14
What's your point with this?

>Isaiah 52:1
Talking about new Jerusalem IE after second coming

>Matthew 16:28
Talking about resurrection and/or ascension back up into Heaven

Good thread I will forever cherish my memory when I BTFO'd slovenian and polish baiting christcucks through deductive arguments and logic!

>>135019285
>Czech and Polish people/culture didn't exist until after WW1
This is painfully oblivious to historical Europe. Those countries were made of areas with a super majority of those groups which have long had no self determination. Yep its the Jews fault for the creation of Czechs and Poles as unique peoples, just ignore history Kamerad!

>>135019241
Why should I belive in something that has zero evidence to it, rather than just not?

>>135019241
hey man, santa is possibly undetectable to humans too, I've never seen him, have you? And as for omnipotent, need i remind you, he knows when you are sleeping? Hmm?

>>135019104
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLk07Ycsstc

You can always do both. And be saved in body and soul.

>>135019552
taking away sins != taking away human sinful nature, it means people who ask God for forgiveness wipe their history of sin, but they still have to work against their nature to not sin again

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>>135019743
Good to know I convinced you to abandon atheism bro.
If you are unconvinced about evidence for God agnosticism is the logical approach.

>>135019810
That would be an example of pascal's wager. If it actually works then god is simply braindead.

Remember goy!

Jesus sacrificed himself on the cross to take away all of the evil and wickedness from the world! HEY BUT IGNORE ALL OF THE GENOCIDE! Especially the genocide we Christians committed against ALL NON-CHRISTIANS! Jesus said to turn the other cheek and respect your fellow man but a NON-CHRISTIAN?!!?! It says in there to kill all of the non-Christians right? To murder those opposite of the great schism for years?

People would murder each other in Europe over how they fucking made the cross on their hand, with two fingers or three. Funny enough it was the Catholic Church that did a lot of the killing, not the Orthodox church...

How funny too when Martin Luther came about the Catholic Church was FULLY AGAINST THEM! Almost as if the Catholic church didn't want to dismantle the power they had acquired from 'religion'.

>>135019995
Okay then I should do some research and find some evidence for chri- Oh wait....

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>>135019743
Because you're italian and you should be christian.

>>135020109
>science works
>therefore you should not believe in God.

Sounds like, right?

>>135001695
Atheism is the lack of belief fucking nigger

If god exist, he sucks

>>135014789
It is some sort of faith where they believe in a world view where "zues" don't exist. It's different from a religion who has not taken a stand on the existence or nonexistance of "zues". But believing in the non-existence is belief.

>>135001695

You don't Everyone knows that pure Atheism is stupid. Agnostic atheism is the most logical.

>>135020284
Eh, I wouldn't stop a all Christian world seriously I mean oops I didn't see the red! It's on my FRONT DOOR! HAHAHAAAAAA!

>>135020349
>italians should be christians
Fuck no, Obey the old Roman Gods. Paganism is the True Way. Christcucks BTFO.

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>>135020762
>neo-"""paganism"""

>>135019696
You're retarded beyond saving my friend. You don't even know basic ethnography. I'm emigration to cripplechan this is too much.

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>>135020839
>sperglord cant even english

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>>135020468
>science works
>god doesn't

>>135020569
So what do you call this "I don't believe in zues" religion?

>>135020561
He only sucks to you because he can destroy your commie ass with a snap of the fingers. And that's exactly why I love him.

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>>135017995
>Atheism is a belief that the universe is godless. This is a claim that requires evidence and the burden of proof is on them. It’s not a neutral stance. Both theism and atheism make a claim about the existence of God.
This is the first time I met someone on /pol/ who actually understands how logic works. All of my respect.

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>>135021049
>i love him cause if not he will destroy me with a snap of his fingers!
CUUUUUCKK. KEK. KEK. KEK.

>>135017995
>Both theism and atheism make a claim about the existence of God.

Absolutely genius. You have my applause.

>>135001695
You don't have to believe shit, that's the point.

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>>135018320
>The lack of evidence is evidence itself.

>>135021368
That anon's a troll, dont feed the troll. just ignore him thanks.

>>135020990
>science works
>God is not science
dayum boy

>>135021030
It is a belief that you live in a world without some person, creature or entity named "zues". It's only a religion if the belief leads to other consequences like a belief in a specific type of thing happening after death (like the atheist void) and other consequences.

But I would call a "I don't believe in zues" religion for "yotarianism"... It sound like a good name and it's not used for anything else.

>>135021715
>god can give birth to himself and walk on water, goy!
>it's a scientific and natural trust me

>>135019405
>>135019542

Who on earth do you know who has actually done this?

Any member of any faith asks for prayer and also goes to a doctor.

>>135021913
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Followers_of_Christ
just one of the many many well known cases out there.

give me one serious reason to believe in potatoes

>>135020284
This is why many people, including myself, do not consider Catholicism much more than a cult. They believe that the pope speaks the word of God and is infallible

>>135018898
You'll do it yourself through your sick and depraved sins. Jesus died for YOU personally and you reject him.

>>135022328
>died for YOU personally
you can't die for every human past, present and future personally, its literally not how that word is used.