Redpill me on the state of the US economy /pol/

>>134959597
It's shit.

>>134959597
The large cities are full of preposterously high IQ people and are doing reasonably well.

Everywhere outside of the cities is third world tier and populated by subhumans.

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>>134959867

>>134959867
It's actually the other way around, leaf.

>>134959726
Why?

>>134959597
The problem with your pic is that it doesn't take into account that everything nowadays is made to break after a couple years, thus fueling a constant demand for new shit.

>>134960085
Also it's not even made in the US.

The real redpill is even though things seem shitty, we have a low population density, a ton of natural resources, a strong manufacturing base, and two big oceans on either side. When SHTF big time USA is going to come out on top big time ~2100.

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>>134959867
>"rural and suburban retards" variation
never change, leafs

>>134960085
True
>>134960220
The Big Corps will spend big $ to make sure we never make anything again. They are global in their intentions, and they will crash the whole thing if we take away their precious cheap labor.

>>134959867
>he hasn't seen the IQ graph
>he thinks niggers and spics in the cities have high IQ

Just because the cities vote liberal doesn't mean they have high IQs, leaf

>>134960085
But people are in so much debt, how can they ever continue to buy more?

>>134960048
In a lot of the cities there are less and less jobs, everything is going to shit because muh diversity hires. Our entire economy is based on wheat, corn, fossil fuels, and computer related stuff. We're the home of tech giants like Apple, Microsoft, IBM, and others yet the outsource hardware and software development to places like China, India, and Taiwan, then expect to sell it all back to us. Slowly we lose money. Our taxes are spent on frivolities and dicking around in some desert shithole half way around the world so that some Jew can make pennies. Our money is backed by nothing but public trust which erodes day by day. It's a mess.

>>134959597
It's an economy based on war, as all fascist regimes are.

>>134960545
Seems accurate

>>134960085
Planned obsolescence. High-quality manufacturing companies in Germany and Switzerland were losing money in the 20th century because their shit wasn't breaking. People would only need to buy their product once in the 50s and it would work for generations.

Same goes for housing and infrastructure also.

>>134960671
The Romans built higher quality roads than we do now.

>>134959597
USA and other industrialized nations have shifted to a serviced based economy which seems to be slowly creating a neo-feudalism and destroying the middle class. Globalism and free trade has off-shored industrialization to the developing world, and so far there is nothing to replace those jobs. In USA specifically, who made such a big deal of championing the middle class, this is causing a very shitty set of choices: look for a way to increase the middle class without wealth redistribution while watching the middle class continue to shrink, adopt socialist policies, or meme a new 'american dream' which doesn't include economic mobility.

>>134959867

???? I lived in L.A., second largest city in USA for years (I have since moved) and it was filled with subhuman hispanics clocking in ~80 IQ. LA is trying to figure out whether to go full socialism or full serfs and masters.

>>134959597
Consumer spending accounts for over 2/3rds of the US economy. If people don't spend everyone's gonna be poor as shit. No one has figured out a practical solution to this problem without causing a total collapse.

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>print loadsa money
>have companies do stock buybacks
>look goys everything is fine!
>people elect Trump
>oh no

Ready your buts

>>134960797
Yea shit is pretty cash when you got slaves, you can invest far more capital in materials. Their 'design life' for their infrastructure was as long as possible, not 30,50,100 yrs.

>>134960623
This is why were sending you all those shit skins. Prepare to be liberated.

If you do a search on Austrian Business Cycles Theory you're gonna buy some bitcoin and physical gold.

>>134960342
lmfao

>>134961247
Yeah, but you think the labor costs would have been somewhat offset by the technology we have now 2000 years later.

>>134960945
People will stop spending when they can't find a job.
>>134960898
I pretty much agree with all of this, but I am still trying to figure out if its even possible to transition back to neo-feudalism or some wacky form of socialism without a collapse. It's obvious that is what they are trying to build too though.

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Incompetently overcontrolled. But I think that about the economy literally always, and it's too late for me to bother with specific insight.

But, while I'm here anyways, I just want to ask, have you heard the good word of markets? There are people who say that economic growth cannot continue forever, but they are correct only because states will not permit unlimited growth. We should build until we have built paradise itself!

>>134959867
This guy gets it.

>>134960412
>vote liberal doesn't mean they have high IQs, leaf
Please don't encourage the obongo-leaf
>skewed graphs in 30 seconds

>>134961355
This... And buy guns too by the way.

>>134959867
>city cunts
>high IQ
lel

>>134961355
>>134962146
Wiki says all mainstream economists disagree with it. Makes it seem more legit imo.

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Disclaimer: I don't really understand any of this.

>>134960487
>But people are in so much debt, how can they ever continue to buy more?

The banks and other lenders don't care about the money you owe them. To them the money you owe is an asset they own, and they can lend it out ten or twenty or forty times. The more money you owe them the happier they are, even if in the end you're going to declare bankruptcy or die without paying them anything.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fractional-reserve_banking
https://archive.is/iOu1x

It's actually crazier than I make it sound.

http://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/022416/why-banks-dont-need-your-money-make-loans.asp
https://archive.is/Eechi

Pic related is from Joseph Wang's answer midway down this discussion:

https://www.quora.com/Can-a-bank-lend-more-money-than-it-has
https://archive.is/mxBmp

>>134964300
Sounds like the CDO's that crashed the economy in 08. Will be fun watching it all crash and burn.

>>134959597
Because (((capitalism))) doesn't work in the long term. Nazi Germany was the last country to ever pay off its national debt in full and if you seen how fucking huge it was you would know just how important that is.
It should also tell you why there was a war in the first place.

>>134959597
It is in decline like the rest of the west and until you visit the major chinese cities you wont understand how fucked we all are

>>134959597
https://youtu.be/5s95Ud2Zxfg

>>134967979
>Nazi Germany was the last country to ever pay off its national debt in full
1950s Finland my fren. Those asians are stronk