Brit/pol/ - King Edward I edition

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Absolute monarchism.

>>134944924
All kings before Henry vii were French

Mmm big juicy cocks are so yummy in my tummy

>>134945045
trash

>>134945060
Edward I was Scandinavian in heritage you mong, but more than earned his position as King of England.

Also nice 10 year old understanding of national identity among Middle Aged (even modern) Royalty/aristocrats.

Was the Kaiser also British because Victoria was his grandmother?

So is Brexit going anywhere? Most of the stuff coming out seems like the U.K. doesn't have much leeway to get a better deal

>>134945120

I sucked a willy in Caephilly

>>134944552
Also, if you're driving by car from Chicago to Mt. Rushmore I'm only 20 minutes off I-90 (the road you'll take from chicago, through wisconsin and minnesota, and across south dakota

>>134945357
I suck willies all day long m8

>>134945499
Me too
I'm addicted to cum
Fuck, I love a mouthful of it

>>134945572
Same m8s

Who doesn't love a big old batch of semen settling in your stomach
Giving you a nice warm feeling inside all night long

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Reminder to exile the Jews.

>>134945460

If you plan on staying in a hotel in Minnesota, I'll only charge you 13.50 for a room. I don't even care if it's in GBPs (will have to figure out the exchange rate).

That's how much space I have and how willing I am to help you get the American experience. I can even cook burgers.

>tfw maybe just need some friends

fuck it it'll be fun

Sucked a ball in Nepal

Stretched my sctrotum under an Indian totem

Reminder that the last King of England was Harold Godwinson and if you're a monarchist post-1066 you're also a cuckold.

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Start buying guns.

>>134945216
>Comparing 19th century nobility to 13th century nobility

Wew. Lad. Did the Kaiser use English as his first language? Because Edward used French as his

>>134945460
>>134945767
and if you drive up my driveway and decided it's not for you, you're free to leave

>>134945915

Were all gay in brit/pol/

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>>134945696
Ooh, this one has potential.

Ever sucked a mong's schlong in the state of Hong Kong?

>>134945688
>mfw telling my pals in the pub the other day this is the reason our coins have ridges on the edge

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Start not being a lazy cunt. Visit the countryside.

>>134946042
>so so suck your toe
>all the way to chinatown
^what my uncle says during deer huntin

>>134946059
I visited the countryside once
Ended up having a three way with my two male best friends
Best times of my life tbf

Came home all crusty and my mum was asking me why
I almost burst holding in the laughter

>>134946059
There's nothing but inbreeding and cow shit in the countryside

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>>134946247
>this country

>>134946312
>t. ice countryside

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>It's a faggots have taken over comfy hours episode

>>134946339
>this country
is fabulous!

>>134946065
Can I do it for you ?
Then you can cum in my bum after

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>>134946312
Maybe in rural America. The English countryside isn't like that. It's cosy villages, nice pubs, farmland, denes, woodlands and good people. No pakis either.

>>134946550
If he doesn't want to, I'll take his place !

>>134946604
Fucking mongs from discord.

>>134946042
>Ever sucked a mong's schlong in the state of Hong Kong?

Can't say I have, though I did toot an Arabs flute in Beirut

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>>134945767
I don't know if I'll be able to afford a car as my licence is pretty fresh. Anyway that's kind of you man and I would be game, would feel much better about paying for a room than freeloading. It would be a fucking travesty to go over and not shoot some freedom guns with a real life burger. Got your email from the last thread lad, will send a message your way if it's looking viable.

soz lads
No more gay stuff

Could you queers make like a banana and fuck off?

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Brits are pirates. Our entire history has been a saxon-viking tribal will to power. I have embraced the individualism and the spirit of piracy. YARRR I hope that the coming chaos in the world will lead to a new renaissance of English piracy.

WHAT SHALL WE DO WITH THE AN-IME NONCE?
WHAT SHALL WE DO WITH THE AN-IME NONCE?WHAT SHALL WE DO WITH THE AN-IME NONCE? etc.

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This thread is very uncomfy. I'm sick of these fucking nonces.

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>>134946042
http://nowiknow.com/why-some-coins-have-ridges/
>its true

>>134946953
Instead of fucking off
How about sucking off your banana?

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>>134946931
Now post your butt

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>>134946956

>>134947111
>>134946931

walk the plank.

>>134946953

Rightly So, Rightly So
Spying through the window
Rightly So, Rightly So
At a gay disco

>>134947111
>>134947240
meant for you desu

>>134947048
William Chaloner (1650s, or 1665–22 March 1699)[1][2] was a serial counterfeit coiner and confidence trickster, who was imprisoned in Newgate Prison several times and eventually proven guilty of high treason by Sir Isaac Newton, Master of the Royal Mint. He was hanged on the gallows at Tyburn on 22 March 1699.[1][3]

>>134946787
sure thing

How old are you?

You need to be 25 (as an american) to even rent a car. With the miles it takes to drive to MN from Chicago it might be WAY too expensive to even drive this way. Are you planning on going to Mt. Rushmore or anything?

>>134946974
>This thread is very uncomfy.
Good!

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>>134946956
Now that's a philosophy I can get behind desu

>>134947492
B A S E D
A
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E
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>>134947453
stahp

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>>134947675
Why?

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>>134947074

Here is Oswald Spengler on the matter.

>sissy Brit boys

>>134947348
24. Fuck, that's a bit of a wrench in the cogs. I'd like to see Rushmore but even a few states away seems like a massive distance, you guys certainly have a lot of space out there, not everything packed tight together like it is in Europe. Will probably spend most of my time in IL but I could probably get a greyhound or something to MN.

>>134947849
Ew gross

Easily the worst comfy hours edition in weeks.

>>134947881
>literally 1pb in your ID which only has one post

>>134947769
Yes.

Don't pretend you don't love it.

>>134948014
These are the hard times Ralph Waldo warned us about. I fear we're being raided.

>>134948079
i-i'll take the ban instead thank you...

>>134947913
greyhounds from chicago to minneapolis are $60 ROUND trip (at least they were in 2010, so maybe they're $80 max now)

If you were here a few nights ago, I talked about how I visited an ex gf in chicago during uni. Greyhounds between the chicago and minneapolis are dirt fucking cheap.

>>134948109
Just report the worst ones and hope for the best.


As a talking point:

How do we all feel about the latest trade promise from Trump? Probably empty words as always but I suppose even if it is just words it helps our position with the EU, makes us look stronger.

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Behold goldstone the man who leaked the russia-trump jr interaction

>>134948320
Is it true she has been blacked?

>>134948317
Nothing trump says is taken seriously because he constantly talks shit

No one can trust him

>>134948317
>How do we all feel about the latest trade promise from Trump?
Sorry Brits, but there is no way we can have a free movement deal with you.

See, we Americans are a homogeneous society. We love freedom, guns, and money. We don't take vacations, we don't have chavs, we don't have sex before marriage.

We farm, we fix cars, and we invent things in our garages. We get our hands dirty.

We ABSOLUTELY CANNOT have you imbeciles traveling freely to the most powerful nation in the world because subhumans like you will take us down from the top just like you did with your own country after WWII.

>>134948317
The latter. I don't want chlorinated chicken but its a fuck you to the EU. And Obama.

>>134948493
>not reading his book

hyperbole is an okay thing, but after some time, people are going to catch on that you're not delivering, so you better start delivering

>>134948208
But that means I'll be forced to take my masturbation elsewhere. If I do that, I will have to use my internet to open a new webpage. And that uses electricity you know.

So by not putting out, you're LITERALLY killing the environment. You're basically being Trump at this point.

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YARRRGGHHHH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzcv5TJkJBA

your gold is forfeit, Spaniard.

>>134948509
I still find it slightly surreal that he actually managed to be president. Oh how I would have loved to see in person how Hillary's emotions developed over that night.

>>134948109
>Ralph Waldo
Dumb Moggposter

>>134948683

Sounds like they're singing yo ho ho and a bottle of cum

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Bow down to your superiors you brown eyed manlets

>>134948727
that's why she skipped out on her concession speech

I'm not saying she was drunk off her ass, but I doubt she could contain herself emotionally

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Post comfy pics to drown out the homosexuals.


>>134948757
Please don't tell me you thought I was implying Ralph Waldo was a valid poster of any sort.

>>134948834
I think she was having a complete breakdown right? I can hardly blame her.

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>>134948836
And report the shittiest ones like Rightly said.

>tfw playing geopolitical simulator and gave too many weapons and oil to china and they took over Japan

fuck

>>134948719
Tell him to use a douche ??

You all coppers narks in this thread

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>>134948905
She was apparently attacking people from what I remember.

>>134948944
How is being gay more banworthy than posting pictures of scenery without any political context?

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>>134948905
I probably would've too. That's a big fucking deal. Literally the most important thing that most people ever do in their lives.

>and she fucking lost

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I still watch Trump vids on YT

>>134948719
>But I don't know how to bring it up to him ?

Just put ot on your finger and tell him that these are his doings

>>134949070
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>>134948285
Good stuff man, that's well within my budget. Didn't catch that thread I'm afraid, desu it would be a squandered opportunity to not go along with an authentic yank experience organised at 3am on a Wednesday morning, you seem a sound fellow also. Am going to hit the sack now but I'll hit you up on the gmails probably in a few weeks from now lad.

>>134949070
>How is being gay more banworthy than posting pictures of scenery without any political context?
Nature is not avatarfagging

It's like banning an American in Brit/pol/ for avatarfagging with his flag

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>>134949141
I stopped liking Trump when he bombed yria.

>>134948984
You know deep down what you must do to make me stop.

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>>134949309
Its comfy pics for comfy hours while we're being raided by rabid homosexuals.

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>>134948836
Never crossed my mind based late night comfy scene anon

>>134949309
It's because he said to report posts for being gay
But I'm pretty sure that's not more against the rules than what he's doing
I.e being off topic

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>>134949572
Worth it desu

>>134949547
Kek reminds me of coming back from the pub absolutely smashed
And wandering under a bridge with my friend
It was the first time I got fingered in the bum

Smells like fish and gaybars in this thread

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>>134949572
FUCKING CHINESE CARTOONS.

DAY OF THE ERASER WHEN?

>>134949572
just put out faggot, no need to play cat and mouse on the internet

>>134948814
Its actually Welshmen who do that

>>134949451
Don't worry lad I'm plenty comfy

Would totes bash fash ass too

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>>134949295
>Am going to hit the sack now but I'll hit you up on the gmails probably in a few weeks from now lad.
I look forward to hearing from you and I don't want to lead you on, but I guess you could call me an authentic yank. I'm a white midwesterner living on a corn/soybean/cow farm.

Here in the midwest (not the cities), we tend to be very open and accepting of everyone, especially white foreigners. In general, people love us and employers are impressed by our work ethic.

I'm basically your age (just turned 25 actually) but I think it would be a good time hanging out with a bong for a night. If you can't make it, it's fine, I won't complain. But we'll keep in touch. Night lad.

pic related is proof that I'm in CDT for reference (GMT is always +6 CDT).

fuck I forgot the last parenthesis

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>>134950110
We're all High Tory Monarchists faggot.

Thoughts on continued EU demands that we let the ECJ have jurisdiction over us after Brexit?
Are we heading for an inevitable no deal?

>>134949355
Trump did what he had to do to shake the russian probe

overall, I don't think he'll try and overthrow assad

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n-no. sorry darjeeling-senpai

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>Nigel Farage: The great Brexit betrayal has begun. The Tories have sold out the British people - now even Jeremy Corbyn has a tougher stance

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/07/25/great-brexit-betrayal-has-begun-tories-have-sold-british-people/

TORY BOY NONCES BTFO!!!!!

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>>134950431
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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>YKTD is blackpilled
>YKTD is from south Wales
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackpill
>Blackpill is a village in south Wales

What could this all mean?

>>134950757
That YKTD is a welsh paki.

>>134950757
That's where the Finsbury Park mosque attacker was from.

>/ptg/ are laughing at us

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>>134950860
Pick one

>>134951191
This general should be gassed tbqh.

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>>134950883
The Finsbury Park attacker was indeed from south Wales.

He also had an estranged wife, much like YKTD :^)

So I heard you're gay. Want some nigger dicks?

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>>134951191
I'm laughing at ptg.

>>134951401
What do you think about Jay Ajayi? Thinking of bandwagoning the Dolphins tbqh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DWyjGfsAT4

so discordanons do you lot still bully Jahans?

>>134951401
Yes please ! I want to drink some black cum so bad

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>>134951390
>He fell for the YKTD has a gf lie

>>134951688
Not if I get to it first !!

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>>134951353
You're under citizens arrest, get ready to die

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>tfw proud irish-american

>>134952168
>Muh heritage

Embarrassing tbqh.

>>134952168
Nice mate
I'm jealous
Being Irish and American are both way better than being British desu

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goodnight...

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>>134952168

>>134951191
Brit/pol/ is genuinely worthless. The homosexuals are just a natural progression from tripfags masturbating here.

>>134952777
Numbers agree

I think the gay posting tonight is proof that we need to be more concerned about the quality of posts
And call out bad posts before this kind of cancer feels comfortable here

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Hey brit's it's pretty late it's almost 4 am there you should get some rest and if you're already awake good morning.

>>134952545
don't wake up

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>>134953223
mean desu

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>>134953176
>RONALD GRUMP IS THE NEXT FASCIST DICTATOR IN THE WORLD
>TRUST ME AND JUST WATCH IT HAPPEN

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>>134952168

>>134953324
You should be deported to Chechnya.

A bottle of rum and a tum full of cum

>>134953614
yum yum yum

Don't be a dummy :o

Cummy on my tummy! >:3

Just squirt your dirt on my favorite shirt

Where is pubes? Taking Syrian cock up his arse I'd say!

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>>134953324
kill yourself gay bong. Consult alex jones there putting shit in the water.

also jesus christ this thread. Y'all have an infestation of trippies and gay gommies.

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Start buying guns

>>134954060
The tripcunts never leave but the faggots are just here for the night from discord. The thread is going to die soon anyway, its nearly 4am, usually dies around now.

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>mfw I remember that britcucks literally need to show ID to buy plastic butterknives

>>134954731
Sorry Americans, but there is no way we can have a free trade deal with you.

See, we Brits are a homogeneous society. We are racist, and we don't believe in gay rights. We don't take vacations, we don't have niggers, we don't have sex before marriage.

We farm, we fix cars, and we invent things in our garages. We get our hands dirty.

We ABSOLUTELY CANNOT have you imbeciles trading with the biggest empire in history because subhumans like you will take us down from the top just like you did with your own country after the American Revolution.

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>>134954818
come again, houston

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>>134955188
>shit that literally has never happened
>meanwhile you literally go to jail in britbongland for publicly criticizing israel

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>>134955569
>>meanwhile you literally go to jail in britbongland for publicly criticizing israel
You've got the countries mixed up you mong. Israel isn't even near as protected in politics here as it is in the USA. Jeremy Corbyn has openly criticised Israel lots of times and he's leader of the opposition party.

>>134955105
I too like the films of Stanley Kubrick

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can't barage the fara-.....Zz z Zz z Z z ge....

>>134956090
No one likes Farage here.

>>134954172
we have a discord?

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>>134956475

reading into Kalergi atm he is quite interesting, hitler called him "rootless, cosmopolitan, and elitist half-breed"

>>134956960

Implying wonky-eyes wasn't better, who Nigel also happened to ruin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmDuPccLON4

Do you think an employer would buy it if you said you were in a coma to cover a long period of unemployment. Seems like an odd thing for a person to say, do you think they would follow up or require proof?

>>134957236
Even if they don't, they're going to ask questions. Would you fake an entire story to go with it?

>>134957137
Only people from working class northern shitholes voted for him.

>>134957236
Yeah it'd definitely work
You should do it
they'd probably just leave it
Because it's a sensitive topic
Just tell them that you don't want to talk about it because it's too painful

>>134957415
>working class northern shitholes
Exactly, Labour's only secure vote outside of pakis (their working class northern/Welsh vote) was being wasted on a wonky eyed literal holocaust denier, which was an absolutely beautiful thing.

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>>134956964
The man of the future will be of mixed race. Today's races and classes will gradually disappear owing to the vanishing of space, time, and prejudice. The Eurasian-Negroid race of the future, similar in its appearance to the Ancient Egyptians, will replace the diversity of peoples with a diversity of individuals.
Instead of destroying European Jewry, Europe, against its own will, refined and educated this people into a future leader-nation through this artificial selection process. No wonder that this people, that escaped Ghetto-Prison, developed into a spiritual nobility of Europe. Therefore a gracious Providence provided Europe with a new race of nobility by the Grace of Spirit. This happened at the moment when Europe's feudal aristocracy became dilapidated, and thanks to Jewish emancipation.

>>134957415
Nah in the early 2000's quite a lot of white working class Londoners were voting BNP. They were the only ones talking about the poles destroying wages

>>134954818
You almost fooled me, Pajeet! Well played.

>>134957585
Nigel isn't that bad all the same, he got the brexit.

Seps BTFO

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/student-accuses-british-authorities-of-racial-discrimination-after-family-misses-graduation-over-fake-passport-claims/ar-AAoLewF?li=AAnZ9Ug&ocid=mailsignout

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Night chaps

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>>134959720
Goodnight Rimmer

>>134957236
great way to not get the job! no employer wants to hire someone with known, or known to be unknown, medical issues.

>>134957236
Say you're a bear-kin and you were hibernating
They can't discriminate

>>134959720
I hope you die in your sleep tonight.

>>134962547
>tonight

Steerpike linked to this the other day and I've had it in my head since
https://youtu.be/p3j2NYZ8FKs

help

Morning anonymongs and triplords.
Have you saved Britain yet?

>134966232
keeping the thread alive for your masters
good boy

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I'm so sick of bureaucracy, I'm really fatigued from it

Why can't we just have ID cards and have everything linked together

It would be so much easier

>>134968237
I didn't realise your guide dog was trained to post on Taiwanese wood carving forums for you Mr. Blunkett.

>>134968000
>I am American bred:
>I have seen much to hate here – much to forgive,:
>But in a world in which England is finished and dead,:
>I do not wish to live.
>
>Alice Duer Miller

We're not quite dead yet.

>tfw sat downstairs by myself ranting and raving about the jews, feminism and the downfall of civilisation in my pants
At least the raspberry jam crumpets were nice

>>134970952
At least you're in pants.

>>134968832
It is lad, Globalism won. Economic "prosperity" and abolishion of morals is far more popular and incentive laden than self discipline, selfless commitment and self restraint.

>>134970952
You had a civilisation in your pants? Probably should wash them.

>>134972480
The latter set of principles is growing in popularity, as is nationalism.

I'm not saying we should ignore the situation we are in, we both know all about that, but if there is any point in discussing politics, we may as well at the very least discuss options.

>>134972684
>growing in popularity
Nah, people always sperg out from time to time without fully understanding what they're going on about. Take the traditional labour force backing Enoch Powell, they clearly didn't understand his actual fanatically free market policy, they just heard him *blaming* golliwogs for their shit pay. But did that "movement" result in anything substantial?
Brexit was just another sperg out by people who didn't understand what was going on headed by charismatic salesmen. It's now being headed by a massively degraded government that in its majority doesn't want to do what it is tasked to do. But very few give a shit about the actual boring details of what's going on, they just want their tabloid headline to read "WE'RE OUT".

I use the analogy now and then that we're children voting for our meals and we've voted sweets for every meal. To expand on that, we're now diabetic and every and angry about it and we are screaming at he doctor to fix it, while unwrapping another Mars bar.

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Reminder that if you don't carry a basing agent like bicarbonate of soda around with you at all times in London you are acting like a fool.

>>134973305
What if they come at you with a base substance which causes an alkali burn? Do you need to carry a bottle of vinegar around as well, just in case?
How will you know what type of substance they've used when all you'll feel is your skin burning like fuck?

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>it was all for nothing

>>134973278
Migration is now a perfectly acceptable thing to talk about, much more so than it was 10 years ago. All major political parties now accept that we are going to end up leaving the EU including the single market, and although none of them seem to want to do anything about migration or challenging some of the EU laws we will be integrating, or any of the other ties, we at least have the opportunity to be doing something about it, which surely has to be better than nothing at all. The Overton window has shifted to the right, not as far as is really needed for significant change, and I'm not saying I'm happy with that amount, but it is something.

>I use the analogy now and then that we're children voting for our meals and we've voted sweets for every meal. To expand on that, we're now diabetic and every and angry about it and we are screaming at he doctor to fix it, while unwrapping another Mars bar.
You do have a way with words.

>>134973751
That is a very good point actually.

I think the basic kit then should be a bottle of water with bicarbonate of soda mixed into the water, some PH testing strips, a bottle of vinegar and some more water.

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>>134973895

>>134973751
and if they have a bomb you'd better have your own to neutralize the blast.

>>134973915
You're almost blindly optimistic. The school system and lack of basic institution is churning out plenty of electorate substance that opposes you.

>>134974982
I'm not blindly optimistic, I'm well aware of the problems we're facing, and as I have said many times I see no reason to hope, but as I also say I still hope for hope. I still make an effort to make people who post here about how "based" they think the Tories are that they are pretty much a lost cause at this point and don't want to conserve anything.

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REEEEEEEEE
I work for a company in the industry of building, racing and selling petrol sports cars. How fucked are we?

FALKLAND ISLANDS POSSIBLE PLACE TO FLEE

>>134977076
>>134977076

FALKLAND ISLANDS POSSIBLE PLACE TO FLEE

>>134977076
>>134977076

FALKLAND ISLANDS POSSIBLE PLACE TO FLEE

>>134977076
>>134977076

>>134944924
Can someone please explain this baby court case to me?

As far as I can see, the GOSH/NHS had stopped a child from going to America months ago to get some treatment simply because their opinion was the treatment wouldn't work. So? Why not give it a chance anyway? If it works, great, if it doesn't, the child was dying anyway. According to the American doctors, the child still had a chance for treatment until last April, but now it is too late. This court case has been dragging on since January, the NHS had effectively prevented the child from having life-saving treatment that was no risk to them.

Why? Why did three separate courts side with the NHS when it looks obvious to me that the GOSH/NHS is in the wrong? Am I missing something here?

>>134944924
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSrs9lELdXk&feature=youtu.be

Enjoy a comfy London drive to jazz that I made thnx :)

>>134977215
They didn't want to show up that the NHS is now shit-tier healthcare compared to the rest of the world.

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How would you close the deficit lads?

>>134977215
>Why not give it a chance anyway?
The government thinks it owns us and can regulate whatever behaviour it likes.

>>134977393
Hyper-inflate the pound through quantitative easing so you can default on your loans, hugely lowering national expenditure, whilst also using it as a justification to cut basically anything more socialist than an Ayn Rand wet dream. Then start a new currency and proceed from square one.

>>134977131
You should be fine until around 23 years from now.

>>134977301
>>134977413
That's what it looks like to me when their only argument was their opinion and the accusation that the doctor had some financial connection to the drugs. Well so what if the doctor invented the drugs? That doesn't make it less likely the drugs will work. It sorely looks to me like this was a case of ego and vanity and refusing to admit they were wrong. Just like that Spanish baby case a few years ago.

But what I can't understand is why 3 courts sided with them. I know the government controls the courts (the same as what the Polish are currently fighting against), but the EU court has no love of the British government. What made them side with the NHS?

>>134977131
You are fine because presumably you will adapt. All these mongs shorting BP stock are going to be completely financially raped when they start buying up all the wind and solar farms.

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>>134977778
>That doesn't make it less likely the drugs will work
It's not, "the treatment won't work BECAUSE he's connected to it," it's, "the treatment won't work AND he's connected to it." Essentially, the US doctors' position of, "of course it'll work," is difficult to trust because of his own vested interest

>What made them side with the NHS?
Could it be that the staff at GOSH are actually knowledgeable paediatric specialists, who are entirely qualified to assess the likelihood of the treatment working and have no personal stake in trying it or not? Nah, it must be that they're just control freaks who hate babies.

>>134978061
Dr. Michio Hirano, a neurologist at New York's Columbia University Medical Center

Who are they to decide they are more specialist than an Ivy League researcher? Even if they are UCL researchers themselves they aren't in a position to say another researcher is wrong without trial - that is nonsense and you know it.

>>134978260
He's qualified, sure, but that doesn't change the fact he has a personal interest in the treatment, both for professional advancement and financial gain, and so it's hard to take what he says at face value.

>Even if they are UCL researchers themselves they aren't in a position to say another researcher is wrong without trial
They're in a position to look at the proposed treatment and apply their own knowledge of paediatric medicine and the individual patient to it to assess the likelihood of it actually doing any good rather than prolonging the suffering of the child

>>134978061
The GOSH doctors are general paediatric specialists, what if a doctor who spent a lifetime studying this specific disease was actually more knowledgeable about the treatment than NHS doctors? Or is the doctor who is considered a world expert on the disease now a quack simply because GOSH decided he was?

>>134978452
I find it interesting that you believe that this doctor would respond to a personal professional and financial incentive but the GOSH doctors do not have a professional incentive.

>>134978662
What exactly do they gain by discontinuing treatment? Other than a dead baby?

>>134978751
If they go to the US and this chap cures what they've failed at for years I think it's pretty clear.

>>134978807
> what they've failed at for years
They've not failed at anything, they've not been trying to 'cure' the kid because no curative treatment exists, currently at least. They don't look bad for not just throwing shit at the wall and hoping something sticks when they don't have the resources to even plan experimental treatments themselves.

>>134978807
I think they are more likely to be paranoid about making mistakes publicly, it's the absolute worst for a doctor.

>>134978061
>>134978452
Him having a personal interest in the treatment shouldn't matter. This is making him sound like he is some crook or fraud when he could simply genuinely want to help the child with a treatment he worked a lifetime to find.

Besides, even if he was doing it for personal interest, so what? If the doctor would have been putting his reputation on the line and if it didn't work, the NHS would have let the child die anyway and his reputation and financial gain would have stalled. It was in his best interest for the treatment to work. So why not give the treatment a chance?

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>tfw too smart to fit in with working class too dumb to fit in with middle class

>>134979086
>>134978941

This and what I find particularly annoying is the GOSH doctors and government have decided their definition of morality is superior to both the parents and this researcher. It is being argued as if this American has decided on a whim to fly some kid over to New York knowing full well he is going to die which is a pretty disgusting opinion to have on anybody you don't know desu.

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>>134979149
>tfw you realise the class system left in 1914 and you are living your life in a Labour lie.

>>134946956
Moving the capital to Bristol WHEN?

>>134979284
It's probably true though isn't it

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>>134979316
>not investing in coastal fast attack ships

>>134979332
No especially once you take into account this guy has taken a lower paying university position than he could have got elsewhere in the US. You've just decided he's a psychopath.

Tips for moving to Spain smoothly?

>>134979149
no youre just a boring person

>>134979149
Class isn't always indicative of intelligence, perhaps this is more of a confidence issue.

>>134978751
Exactly, so why not give the other treatment a chance?! They had nothing to gain from letting the baby die other than protecting their own vanity at the risk their opinion was wrong. This court case has been nothing but a disaster for GOSH, even if the court sided with them.

Why say "no" and guarantee the child dies, when there was a treatment that even had a 0.1% chance of success? What risk was it to GOSH? Is it because they are not allowed to endorse treatment that is not provided by the NHS? They would have nothing to do with it other than the baby being transferred out of their hospital to America. I really cannot understand GOSH or the courts' decision here.

>>134979609
Wouldn't want to undermine the state's authority over the child now would you? The family unit is strong, that's why overbearing governments seek to undermine it.

>>134979609

Their argument was that it would pre-long the suffering so they went on to do 6 months of legal wrangling to defend their definition of morality.

>>134979609
What exactly was stopping them?

2 years into a history course and I want to change my degree lads

What should I change it to? I'm thinking Classics, Economics, or Philosophy

>>134979799
The police would have been, who were on their toes more after the case of Ashya King, whom they failed to kill.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-32013634

>>134979916

Econ might be too maths heavy if you've been studying History - proceed with caution.

>>134979916
Classics or philosophy would be good, but only really you can answer that. Why not stay on with history?

This is your friendly reminder that the NHS is always infallible and is the greatest ever creation of the United Kingdom.

>>134975312
Oh I'm not devoid of optimism, I'm optimistic about my education or flirting with that coffee girl, or I'll get enough work to live comfortably enough. But when it comes to our broken poltical system, then no.
As I've gone into some depth before, political parties are not mechanism to improve the country but tailored to win votes. improvement techniques are often very unpopular, especially with a society as fractured and individually opinionated (and often ignorant) to at least a sizeable portion of the electorate.
To take any serious stance in politics is your alienate a large portion of the electorate, this is why neither major party took a balls in gamble with the referendum, even now, because almost as many disagree as agree.
Poltical party survival does not depend on if you support free a Indian girl for every Englishman or if you want to gas every non white on earth, they just are concerned that both of you vote for them.

>>134980098
Our* NHS you fascist tory

>>134953376
>Tunzelmann

lol fuck you

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>>134979916
Why is it you want to change?

>>134979745
>so they went on to do 6 months of legal wrangling
And guarantee that it would be too late for any treatment to work.

>>134979799
Nothing other than the abuse of authority. as far as I can see. I can't why if the NHS can't do anything for the patient, that they can't just allow the patient to be treated elsewhere. Any other hospital or treatment has nothing to do with them.

>>134979945
This was the case I was thinking of before, not Spain.

It's disgusting. Absolutely disgusting.

>>134980241
An interesting question is if someone on Harley Street offered the same treatment what would they have said? What if Edinburgh University hospital said transfer him up here we have something that might work?

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>>134979600
was memeing i just meant I don't belong to either. like when I've tried befriending chav types they think I'm posh but it's the reversal with middle class people and i always feel like a fish out of water

maybe its all a misunderstanding and chavs just mistake a touch of the tism for haughtiness

>>134980241
>that they can't just allow the patient to be treated elsewhere. Any other hospital or treatment has nothing to do with them.

What if the patient survives the new treatement ?
Then the NHS would have to admit they fucked up and are useless ?

They never will do that, too much reputation damage and all those high admin salaries need to be paid.

No, they will fight even harder to kill the kid.

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>>134981452
Storm in a Teacup

people just going round london squirting each other with acid from fruit shoot bottle's.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/police-called-suspected-acid-attack-10871659

>>134981578

https://archive.is/Fdl5C

>>134981578
So the same as fruit shoot then

>>134981452
He admitted a few weeks ago that there was only a 10% chance of success prior to reading the scans too, so it isn't as if he led them on at all.

But the court case was more about whether the NHS had the right to prevent them seeking alternative treatments, rather than whether any specific treatment would work anyway.

>>134981452
Poor kid has been wrongfully kept alive because he became a political football. He's in a near vegetative state and in lots of pain with no hope of any recovery. Yanks came in and offered treatment because they want to make a name for themselves and test their drugs. Parents were filled with false hope, doctors were derided by the press for putting the child before the parents, and the whole thing became a game for the media and politicians.

>>134981452
For context, this is in response to the July MRI scan, after 6 months of stalling and court battles. The doctor believed treatment was possible when scans were done in January and April if the NHS had just dropped the case and allowed the child to travel.

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>>134981578
In my area a few years ago, there was another usual sort who went around spraying his piss and shit over food and people just because he felt like it.

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>>134981578
>tfw live in london

>>134981781
>Sahnoun of Gloucester

Can't make this shit up

>>134981745
>political football.

today they are in court because the hospital doesnt want to send Charlie home, the say the ventilator wont fit through the door, but they have never seen the house.

your tax money hard at work.

>>134981452
>>134981543
I can't wait for another Trump Miracle. The boy will live and become the scandal that kills NHS. Will the straw that breaks the camel's back be the British Government demanding the death of a British Infant?

>>134981933
They can't send the fucking kid home, it would divert resources and doctors away from other kids.

Hospitals are built for the good of the collective, not for the individual. Just let the poor thing die already

>>134981781
rather be sprayed with that, i'd rather be stabbed than acid in my face, anything other than acid in the face

>>134981452
There's a US Doctor Who now?

>>134982010
Yeah you're the exact kind of poster I was talking about.

>>134982010
If anything comes out of this, it will be demands for more money for the NHS and welfare state which already eats up hundreds of billions per year. See >>134977393

>>134982010
That Boy's already dead

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>>134981824
>tfw when my 'refugees welcome' sister who lives in London starts noticing the sounds of explosions and people screaming while being run over get more frequent and ever closer every month

>>134982138
>tfw when

>>134982044
>it would divert resources and doctors away from other kids.

parents have 1.3million fund, they can pay it.
Nope the hospital is going kill the kid in the hospital, end of.

then you will hear all kinds of shit about the parents, and the US doctors, while the NHS covers its' ass.

We will kill your kid, and its for your own good.

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>>134982044
>>134982092
>>134982124

Holy shit, y'all really aren't worth fighting and dying for anymore are you? Who are you and what have you done with the British? There was a time when we'd volunteer to defend Britain from invaders without question, now it's unthinkable.

What happened to the Lions of Britannia? Where are the teeth and claws? Where has the heart gone?

>>134982091
Lmao

>>134981933
>>134982044
>>134982324

The hospital wants to send the kid to a hospice, which is designed for this sort of thing and more comfortable than a hospital. But again, if the parents want to set up care in their home privately, then the NHS should have no right to stop them. But it sounds lie the parents expect the hospital to provide the care, in which case, this time I side with the hospital. But they are still pieces of shit for guaranteeing the child's death.

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>I regret 80% of my life
:(

>>134982947
who doesn't?

>>134982947
How was Powell a mountebank?

>>134983309
I'm not sure why he thinks that, he hasn't clarified yet.

>>134983309
Didn't he bring loads of indians in?

>>134983589
he brought a quite a few Caribbeans as nurses for the NHS but that was before his rivers of blood speech

>>134983309
The fuck is a mounteback?

wow last night really proved that Brit/pol/ is a bunch of gay lords eh?

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DON'T GO BREAKING MY HEART

>>134947492

>Druggies take drugs because of "income inequality"

What a pile of tosh. Even if they had money they'd still be taking drugs.

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>>134983898
>not just googling it and pretending to know what it is
>knowing what it is and pretending you don't and intentionally misspelling it

what level of tripfaggotry is this

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>>134968237

>Why can't we just have ID cards

t. Mummy May

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>>134977131

FUCK OFF REEEEEE

FUCK OFF REEEEEE

FUCK OFF REEEEEE

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>>134977393

Deregulate the markets. Create the conditions for economic growth. Audit social spending and cut off anything we don't need.

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>>134979149

>implying the class system is a rigid system
>implying intelligence determines which class you fall into and not your economic condition
>not mingling with the upper classes to increase the chances of promotion to a higher economic class

Pleb.