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PAGANISM GENERAL

EDITION: DAY OF THE SKY FATHER

ᛏᛏᛏ HAIL THE GODS, HAIL VICTORY ᛏᛏᛏ

This is a thread for the discussion of Paganism, the future of Aryan Race, Culture, Traditionalism, Jewish Question and Christianity.

ᛟᛟᛟ Places to start learning ᛟᛟᛟ

Varg's playlist "European Polytheism & Tradition"
>https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLV1Xd_c5-wta8HSKFx15qdV5L-pm5XvZA

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ϟϟϟ Recommended channels ϟϟϟ

Varg Vikernes
>https://www.youtube.com/user/ThuleanPerspective

Survive the Jive
>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZAENaOaceQUMd84GDc26EA

Aryan Kitchen
>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMiZ7r52r6onVo9J5tCzNBg

Forgotten Roots
>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJpN-GBTchQaSVwBbefYMNg

DukeOfDurham
>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXrzcmZ9eIkQi-u2BPH_4ug/featured

Survival Russia
>https://www.youtube.com/user/Moscowprepper

Jackson Crawford
>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXCxNFxw6iq-Mh4uIjYvufg/videos

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>>134934039
>Varg
Way to discredit yourself out of the gate paganfag, delete the murderous autist and people might take you seriously.
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>>134934442
Euronymous was a degenerate, I don't care for his life you shouldn't either.
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>>134934039

Where does paganism stand on homosexuality?

Can I exist in a pagan country?
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>>134934442
euro deserved it
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>>134934726
Homosexuals are not welcome into paganism.
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>>134934442
>wahhh wahhh he murdered someone

Only a Christian would complain about someone having the balls to take another's life.
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>>134934684
I don't care about them, but using a moronic autist who doesn't even believe in your gods does your movement no aid.

>>134934726
Allow me to sub in for the vargists:
"Le bog you go xDDD"
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>>134934987

>only pagans are germanics

Just stop now and change your flag back faggot.
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>Unironically being a pagan

Why do you deny the only god that has ever listened to you?
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>>134935151
>Just stop now and change your flag back faggot.
>>134935151
Slavs had the same practice as well, I quoted the Vedic Aryans as well.
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>>134935297
>Unironically being an alt-light, "kekistan", trump worshipper.

You do make useful idiots though.
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>>134934997
Only a "Christian" so called. might have the balls to condemn.
I go by the books. The King James Bible
and the supposed Noble Quaran.
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>>134935376

>Slavs had the same practice as well
We know bugger all about slavic practices. And it still doesn't deal with the big elephant in the room, the Romans and Greeks, the only pagans smart enough to read and write.
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>>134935297
Oh I do hope they expound the "Kek is an ettin" nonsense, it's a delightfully autistic theory.
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>>134935552
What have other gods done for you?
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>>134934987

Can you show me a specific text that prohibits homosexuality?

I don't see why I cannot be pagan unless someone shows me specifically where it says I cannot be gay.
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>>134935857
>>134935857
>>134935857
Fuck off, this is your home.
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Daily reminder that a nation is founded due to and defined by its people and culture, as determined by evolutionary pressures affecting their psyche and cultural traditions which are passed down through generations. The European races are fundamentally connected to their gods and their old religion, and until European bloodlines all die out the old gods will exist and affect our every move and perception, for they are a part of us.

Christianity is a foreign desert religion that was considered a subsect of Judaism for its first centuries of existence, because it was. Its values, beliefs and traditions do not reflect those of native Europeans, and they never will. The only reason why Europe lasted so long under Christianity is due to Catholicism melding the practices of Roman paganism which included strict traditions and rituals with Christianity; the second Protestantism was introduced, i.e. "true" Christianity, the west developed a philosophy based on monetary wealth and material obsession, resulting in materialist governments that did not care about the people or culture and led us into this mess today. Protestantism reveals the true nature of Christianity, an ideology of hedonistic selfishness, which preaches that you can literally do anything as long as you have faith and still be saved. This mindset is exactly what allows people to fall into and engage in degenerate behavior and forget the culture. Under this statute, race mixing doesn't matter, European civilization doesn't matter, discipline and self control don't matter.

Return to your old blood and awaken the old gods just as the National Socialists awoke Wotan.
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>>134935857
He'll come back with some Hindi nonsense most likely. Check out their discord, it's funny as hell.
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>>134935857
We don't have a holy book to point to, we have archaeology. In pagan society fags were drowned in bogs.
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>>134936054
>>134935857
The fact that you need to have a piece of scripture tell you not to sodomize other men, and are incapable of using your reason to understand why its degenerate, shows that Christcucks are all brainwashed faggots just itching for the need to unleash all of their hedonistic fantasies. Save yourselves.
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>>134935574
>balls to condemn
>wahh wahh he didn't abide by my feminine social conventions and use passive aggression like i am doing right now!

You go by the word, we Pagans go by the ACT.
"It’s written here: ‘In the Beginning was the Word!’
Here I stick already! Who can help me? It’s absurd,
Impossible, for me to rate the word so highly
I must try to say it differently
If I’m truly inspired by the Spirit. I find
I’ve written here: ‘In the Beginning was the Mind’.
Let me consider that first sentence,
So my pen won’t run on in advance!
Is it Mind that works and creates what’s ours?
It should say: ‘In the beginning was the Power!’
Yet even while I write the words down,
I’m warned: I’m no closer with these I’ve found.
The Spirit helps me! I have it now, intact.
And firmly write: ‘In the Beginning was the Act!’" -Goethe
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>>134936197
>we have archaeology
Achaeology doesn't produce holy text, traditions and customs it just shows you how a temple might have looked.
>In pagan society fags were drowned in bogs.
Which Pagan society, there is no unitary Pagan society.
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>>134936255
>>134936197
I can't help but notice, as Romania bro pointed out, you larpers haven't addressed Greece and Rome. I'm waiting to see what double think or Varg cocksucking you pull to explain it.
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>>134936528
What about them? All homosexuality in Greek society was restricted to elite degenerates who were looked down upon and disgusted by the vast majority of normal people, people were also likely more faithful as a result of living more honest lives.

>>134936513
Pagan societies are all closely linked. You'll notice many gods are the same across most of pre-Christian Europe, simply renamed and slightly modified based on the specific people. The general ideals and concepts are all inherent to the European race however
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>>134936513
We don't need "texts", we pass down our traditions through our blood.

Even Socrates, admitted that books only produce forgetfulness.

Pagan societies do have a common attitude towards existence which they have expressed as an honest relationship with reality, willing to engage it directly, instead of relying on abstractions like Abrahamics do.
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So you have nothing other than personal opinion to back up your claims that I cannot be gay, that means you have no right to exclude me if I want to.

I love how masculine the Germanic gods were, so big and manly and sexy.
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>>134936963
Indeed? That hardly sounds accurate, some sources perhaps?

>>134937054
You're laying it on a little too thick, subtlety is the key.
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>>134937054
We have a right to exclude your faggotry because its degenerate, does not produce children, and is filthy and unhealthy. We determine this using our reason and intellect, gifts which we naturally have been bestowed upon us by the gods. Our natural skills of reason are thus divine, and it is divine commandment to listen and follow them.
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>>134936963

>Pagan societies are all closely linked.

Nigger just stop, the Tharcians and Dacians where like pees in a pot and still ended up with completely different religions. And the Romans purposely destroyed multiple pagan gods, many more rituals and cults and practically exterminated druidism.

And that's besides the many special practices the Romans had, or the Greeks and ignoring the Baltics and other myriad of pagan religions in the East.
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>>134937256

According to your bigoted judeo-christian culture based personal opinion.

You cannot stop me, you have no legitimate basis to exclude me aside from your hatred and hearsay.
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>>134937222
Shut up, LARPing Christfag. There is nothing "subtle" about Judeo-Christianity and its negative influence on European society. See this pic in this post >>134934987

>>134937352
> And the Romans purposely destroyed multiple pagan gods, many more rituals and cults and practically exterminated druidism.

Pagan Rome? Or Catholicuck Rome?

>pagan religions in the east

I'm specifically referencing Europe, which should be obvious if you're not a retard.

> ended up with completely different religions

Define how they were "completely different".

>>134937508
Pathetic. It is an objective fact faggots put their penises in dirty holes filled with shit and are incapable of having children. These two things clearly indicate an inability to contribute to the white race and society (which is based entirely around the production of more white children). Nothing about your kike religion has any influence. Stop trying to justify your disgusting faggotry and sodomy. I know you lolbertarians love trying to do that, but it's just degenerate.
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>>134937047

>We don't need "texts", we pass down our traditions through our blood.
Yeah I am totally sure that blood has magical mystical properties of carying laws and traditions unchanged.

>Pagan societies do have a common attitude towards existence which they have expressed as an honest relationship with reality, willing to engage it directly, instead of relying on abstractions like Abrahamics do.
Your entire sentence is and abstraction.
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>>134937508
He is, while obviously trolling, correct. Your inherent lack of hierarchy and orthodoxy plays against you in this way, paganfags.
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>>134937797
>lack of hierarchy

You're an utter retard and cannot comprehend that this is racial in nature, inherent to Europeans. Explain where in the egalitarian, universalist, Jew-filled teachings of Christianity that any hierarchy is promoted besides between that of normal people and Jew lord.
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>>134937764
>Your entire sentence is and abstraction.

Not an argument

>Yeah I am totally sure that blood has magical mystical properties of carying laws and traditions unchanged.

You seem to be implying genetics don't exist and that traditions aren't passed down by families to children, both of which are illogical statements.
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>>134937744

What I do in my bedroom is none of your business, mr.

You are a hateful bigoted conservashit, you only harbor anti-gay sentiment because you refuse to let go of your judeo-christian upbringing.

You cannot exclude me if I want to learn how to be a pagan.

Now stop being a bigot and tell me how to live like a pagan, I really like Tyr.
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>>134937744

>Pagan Rome? Or Catholicuck Rome?

Pagan Rome m8, they hated Druids and also banned a lot of practices and cucked religions.

>I'm specifically referencing Europe, which should be obvious if you're not a retard.
I am referring to Eastern Europe, which if you can't figure out when in the same sentence I talk about the Baltics then you have a double digit IQ.

>Define how they were "completely different".
In Dacian Mythology Heaven is underground, and they also have a god more powerful than all the others and not infucking that the Greeks or Nords have in their pantheons.
And one of the thing I remember about the Baltics is them having some sort of chicken god or deity.
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>>134937744
Your lack of reading comprehension is stunning, though not terribly surprising I suppose. The comment about subtlety was directed at the obviously trolling faggot anon. Also, your assumption that I'm Christian is amusing, the flag was just to trigger you larpers.

>>134937921
>What is the Pope
>What is the Magisterium
>What is Ecclesiastical Authority and Apostolic Succession.
Your lack of knowledge about theology is laughable, may I suggest an introductory college course in church history?
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>>134937508
>According to your bigoted judeo-christian culture based personal opinion.

No its called not having HIV and AIDS which is nature's way of removing you for engaging in pure hedonism.

Its called not investing any resources in someone whom will not produce offspring.

Call it personal opinion if you want, its not like we will convince you of your nonexistence.

Our bodies dont argue with viruses and diseases on the damage that their existence causes to the body, they are eliminated and removed despite whatever "arguments" and protests the viruses and diseases make.
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>>134938059

>Not an argument
He didn't have one to begin with.

>You seem to be implying genetics don't exist and that traditions aren't passed down by families to children, both of which are illogical statements.
>YOU SEEM TO BE IMPLYING

You yourself admit that you can't even state that I am implying and go on a tirade that's unrelated.

If laws aren't written down they will change, human memory alone will alter it.
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>>134934039
gay
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>>134938090
You are unreasonable, thus you are ignoring your divine command to listen to this logic and reason. Ergo, you are heretical, and shall be shoved in a bog and killed. Faggot.

>>134938152
Oh my sweet summer child, you're bringing up Catholicism. You do understand that no where in actual Christian teachings are these things promoted, and that EVERY SINGLE THING is from Roman paganism, which ACTUALLY promoted tradition, rituals, and respecting authority? You do realize that Constantine had to incorporate all those things when he converted to Christianity as Roman Emperor because the majority of Rome was still Roman pagan in some fashion? And you do realize that Protestantism is a reaction to this, a regression to pure Christianity, which in turn is reflected by the obsession with materialism which it has brought to the west?

>If laws aren't written down they will change, human memory alone will alter it.

False, this would mean that laws are not affected by culture, or that you do not believe genetics affect culture, which is asinine and racial equalist speak.
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>>134938179

Excuse me mr bigot, but HIV and AIDS have nothing to do with paganism, or show me where it says I will get HIV from being gay?

Aren't you supposed to help me?

I want to learn more about being a pagan and you guys are going full catholic on me.
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>>134934997
So you're fine with people going around murdering people. You basically are a nigger.
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>>134938458
Last part meant for >>134938323
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>>134938558
HIV comes from bacteria in shit coming into your body. Thus, don't commit sodomy, or you'll likely get something like it. Logic and reason. Logic and reason. Not that lolbertarian degenerates understand this.
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>>134934039
Philippians 2:10-11
That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Revelation 5:13
And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.

Romans 14:11
For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.

Revelation 1:7
Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

Revelation 6:15-17
And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

1 Peter 1:19-20
But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,

Hebrews 13:8
Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
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>>134938680
>Jew quotes from Jew book

No one cares. Why don't you quote the OT aka The Talmud next? Kike. That's the only argument Christians have against fags anyway, otherwise they'd have to love and kiss their feet like Jewsus told them.
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>>134938458
Ah, so you're a Protestant LARPing as a pagan. That explains a great deal. It's shame that real paganism will never see a resurgence, that would be a preferable alternative, but you'll never escape the chains of the mind that Protestantism foists upon you.
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>>134938670

No it doesn't you philistine.

HIV is a virus.

Do you even know anything about the pagan religions or are you just here to be a conservashit pig?

I fully know that I can express my paganism while maintaining who I am and what I love.

Or are pagans not allowed to love?
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>>134938458

> or that you do not believe genetics affect culture, which is asinine and racial equalist speak.
Please show me which genome determines if you check the stomach of the goat offering or the intestines for the good omen.
If genes have an effect on culture that is noticeable, history alone shows you that is not enough. As culture change many times in pagan societies. Look at Greece and how it changed every century, or look at Rome and how pagan religions and practices went out of favor and got replaced with new ones or even foreign ones.
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>>134938558
>or show me where it says I will get HIV from being gay?
Sticking your dick up a body part that developed to expel waste, is a pretty unhygienic thing to do.
>muh condoms
The fact that you depend upon a technology to engage in your masturbation is proof alone of your unfitness.

You're better off joining some protestant Christian sect, who tolerates genetic mutations like you.
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>>134934039

Varg is a loser who holds no particular expertise or influence.
you worship a failed musician living in the woods making youtube videos.
I can't imagine how shit your life is.
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>>134938940
I'm not a Protestant, I just fucking criticized it and called it the main reason why materialism has plagued the west. The only one with shitty reading comprehension is you, evidently. Just know if you're a Catholic, the only reason any of the shit in it works is because it was taken directly from Pagan ideals (look at fucking nuns. Nuns "marry" God, just like pagan priestesses did which is where the idea came from, only difference is that in paganism the god was represented by a male priest so that they could still produce children, as opposed to Catholicucks restricting white women from having families).

>>134938990
Not an argument

>>134938998
Please explain to me how the culture of a people determined by their genetically defined intellect and temperament and behavioral patterns does not affect the overall way in which they create laws and view morals/the world.
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>>134938680
Your words mean nothing here christian
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>>134939183
Why do people think he worships Varg?
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>>134939360

Because I read his post.
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>>134939428
Nothing in his post indicates he worships Varg, the only mention of Varg is an offhand link to his youtube channel with several others at the bottom of his post. Stop being a braindead faggot.
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>>134938569
So the "Crusaders" were niggers then?
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>>134934039
Proud European pagan here. Fuck Varg, he's an autistic freak who makes us look bad.

We need to stop being LARPfags.
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>>134939605
This too though. Varg has a lot of issues philosophically and can be retarded. Most pagans appreciate his admirable lifestyle but dislike much of his teachings.
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>>134939339

>Please explain to me how the culture of a people determined by their genetically defined intellect and temperament and behavioral patterns does not affect the overall way in which they create laws and view morals/the world.
History proves you wrong. Especially Roman Law, how it turned from a Republic to a Kingdom and how laws appeared like Bread and Circus or how the Volunteer Army became a Conscripted one, or how Spartha lost to Athens or how the Macedons took over. There are countless examples in history where you had the same ethnic people have a very different culture, laws and morals, sometimes that change appearing in a short space of time and lasting equally long.

Not to mention that temperament and behavioral patterns are more down to upbringing and epigenetics.
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>>134939594
proud european pagan here

I love the crusaders

ANYONE WHO SAYS ALL CHRISTIAN EUROPEANS WHO EVER EXISTED WERE ANTIWHITE IS FULL OF SHIT

STOP INFIGHTING GUYS. STOP ATTACKING CHRISTIAN VS PAGAN IT'S FUCKING GAY AS FUCK.
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>>134939605
>Fuck Varg, he's an autistic freak who makes us look bad.
>We need to stop being LARPfags.

That's cute, how many white children have you created by the way?
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>>134939339
As I stated, I'm not Christian. Paganism would be preferable, but you people destroy your own movement with hostility and pseudo-intellectualism. Your acceptance of anything Vikernes says is proof enough of this, I look forward to the day when this is no longer the case, however.
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>>134939605
>Proud European pagan here

Yeah ok, Varg says some retarded stuff but he makes a lot good point. He does a lot more for our movement than 99% of people he already has 5 kids.
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>>134939837
>History proves you wrong. Especially Roman Law, how it turned from a Republic to a Kingdom and how laws appeared like Bread and Circus or how the Volunteer Army became a Conscripted one, or how Spartha lost to Athens or how the Macedons took over. There are countless examples in history where you had the same ethnic people have a very different culture, laws and morals, sometimes that change appearing in a short space of time and lasting equally long.

These are differences, yes. However the fundamentally follow the same aspects of order and government. This is like saying that monarchy and democracy being different prove that niggers are able to integrate just as well with white culture as whites are.

You are unironically spouting racial equalist drivel though, so I'm assuming you're a commie fag.

>>134939919
>acceptance of anything Vikernes says is proof

I do not accept anything Vikernes says. Major strawman and logical fallacy. You're incredibly dumb.
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Oh my gosh, you guys are just a bunch of judeo-christian culture pushing bigots, I can't believe how closed-minded you all are.

You don't even know anything about paganism, you just want to maintain a bigoted counter culture without letting go of the old culture.
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>>134934039
Lars is fucking based love his videos, learned a shit ton from them.
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>>134940198
"judeo-christian culture" is what keeps you alive today, moron.
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>>134940054
While proving my previous point about outward hostility, ironically. Shame, as I was going to revise the point as you saying you don't care for Vikernes.

>>134939995
>>134939907
>muh kids
Mean absolutely nothing while the mode prominent "pagan" on the internet continues to push people away by being a retarded autist.
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>>134939846

No surprise a faggot with that flag doesn't know anything about history.
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>>134934039
Pol is a Christian board
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>>134939729
>>134939729
>>134939729
I'm just sick of the infighting. We need to unite our race now, more than ever. Paganism should be able Europe's native traditions and celebrating them, not bashing people for being Christian.

For the record, I wish Christianity never came to Europe, but that's beside the point. I'm not going to attacking pro-white Christians who are on our side, today.

>>134939907
Not an argument, you're full of shit. Varg having kids is great, and obviously he's not a horrible person. But Varg shouldn't be the famous face of European paganism. He should be some weird guy who no one cares much about.

>>134939995
Varg's a good guy, but he's a kook. I'd love to have him as a neighbor and I wish him only well, but the guy is everything that people use to mck paganism with.

We need to imagine what European paganism would have become or could have become if Christianity has not displaced it. I don't think this "muh vikings" larpy type of paganism is true to the spirit, it's just an excuse to endlessly blame Europe's problems on Christianity.

We don't know that a pagan Europe would have been totally resistant to the problems that we have today. We just don't know. People like Varg cause infighting.
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>>134940054

>These are differences, yes. However the fundamentally follow the same aspects of order and government.

No they don't. Bread and Circus and the Conscripted Army show two things, the fact that the Roman man became a sloth unable to feed himself or willingly fight for his country showing a moral change, a big one. Or that the Roman society and culture became one where you where forced into service but would be guaranteed welfare.

The fall of Sparta shows the death of militarism, and their entire caste system and the domination of the democracy/dictatorship and free citizen system.
> This is like saying that monarchy and democracy being different prove that niggers are able to integrate just as well with white culture as whites are.
False equivelance and I never stated that.

>You are unironically spouting racial equalist drivel though, so I'm assuming you're a commie fag.

Nigger you have shown yourself as ignorant of both history and genetics, not to mention you claim that I am wrong and a commie, with no proof.
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>>134940352
>While proving my previous point about outward hostility, ironically. Shame, as I was going to revise the point as you saying you don't care for Vikernes.

Kek implying I care about any point you make

>>134940351
He's a lolbertarian trying to argue in support of Christcuckery, silly faggot

>>134940454
I agree with this. You are correct.
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>>134940352
>Mean absolutely nothing

More like
>Its n-not l-like i c-cant get laid or anything, varg is just dumb!
ftfy
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>>134940351
Judeo-Christian is an oxymoron.
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>>134938680
Amen. It shall be so and we agree.
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>>134940513
You are unironically trying to argue that policy changes like from a voluntary military recruitment system to conscription are proof of a massive culture change, when the basic idea of authority, traditions, and a governing body enforcing laws and some sense of justice were always prevalent no matter what. Dumb point.
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>>134940602
It's more along the lines of, most people can get chicks pregnant, doesn't mean they'll raise those kids well.
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>>134935581
>We know bugger all about slavic practices
There is no mention whatsoever in Slavic mythology about any form of homosexuality, and judging from how Slavs today hate it, it's not really strange to assume that they absolutely despised it in ancient times
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>>134940602
Not an argument, paganfag. Feel free to continue following a false prophet and in so doing doom your movement to never being successful.
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>>134940454

>We need to imagine what European paganism would have become or could have become if Christianity has not displaced it. I don't think this "muh vikings" larpy type of paganism is true to the spirit, it's just an excuse to endlessly blame Europe's problems on Christianity.

Fucking Colonials. Europe is not some Unitary Magical land where White people magically appeared to rule the world.

Europe is a continent that has been at war with it's self since humans have set foot. The only reason European powers managed to conquer the world is that when you try to genocide each other for milenias on end, you get pretty good and fighting and building. Europeans hate each other, always hated each others and stop seeing it as some sort of unit.
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>>134940683
How? Christianity was a subsect of Judaism invented and pushed by Jews until Rome got a hold of it and drastically modified it. Even then it always has been connected to Jews through its roots, especially protestantism, which promotes the same materialistic focus and view of the world as the OT/Talmud/Jew doctrine does.
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>>134940683
Christianity is a branch of Judaism, just because it has masculine pagan elements doesn't mean its completely different.

Christianity is the attempt to synthesize Hellenism and Judaism with the result being more Judaic than Hellenistic.

To put it metaphorically, Hellenism is the father and Judaism is the mother, Christianity is their *Daughter*, sure she might have some of her father's qualities but ultimately she is *FEMALE* which makes her closer to her mother than her father.
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>>134940948
>This whole post.

Gypsies are truly retarded. this is what I've gathered.
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>>134940727

>You are unironically trying to argue that policy changes like from a voluntary military recruitment system to conscription are proof of a massive culture change, when the basic idea of authority, traditions, and a governing body enforcing laws and some sense of justice were always prevalent no matter what. Dumb point.

So apparently welfare, so bad that when it was no longer provided millions in Rome starved, and the fact that you were forced into service, not to mention all the other changes like forced land redistribution, the adoption of the Emperor cult

>when the basic idea of authority, traditions, and a governing body enforcing laws and some sense of justice
Have you ever looked into the late Roman Period?
There was no governing body, the praetorian guard many times have overthrown the Emperor, multiple civil wars were fought

As for traditions they also changed many a times, the main Imperial religion also changed and that's before Christianity even came to play.
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>>134940351

No, judeo-christian culture is what is repressing my kind from advancing in society, you are part of it you brutish bigot.

You pretend to promote paganism but all you really promote is the same kind of hate the pope does.
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>>134940948
I never said Europe is some magical white unity land you dumb faggot

>>134940948
>Europe is a continent that has been at war with it's self since humans have set foo
i know, tard
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>>134941204

M8 you are cowering behind a flag not of your own.

Do you want me to list every single war in recorded history fought between European nations to prove my point, or the many genocides?
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>>134941458

>I never said Europe is some magical white unity land you dumb faggot
You are treating it as such, heck the two other pagan larpers are basically treating it as such. As their only counter to faggotry was Odinism.
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>>134941339
judeo-christian culture provided the morals which allow you to persist and infest spaces like these, forcing us to tolerate your self centered existence.

Where do you think your modern laws of "tolerance" and "diversity" came from? They were derived from judeo-christian ethics.
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>>134941335
>Have you ever looked into the late Roman Period?
>There was no governing body, the praetorian guard many times have overthrown the Emperor, multiple civil wars were fought

Correct, same exact shit can be seen in modern Italians today. Look at the fucking mob. Exact same shit. Different policies, different rules, same guiding principles. My whole argument.

>>134941467
My true flag is American, your focus on a bmp image proves your faggotry. Please go ahead and do so so I can waste your time, as if I don't believe Europe hasn't had conflicts.
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>>134934039
Unironically worshipping marvel characters
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>>134941633

>Different policies, different rules, same guiding principles. My whole argument.

Since when does citizen rule, monarchy and military dictatorship have the same guiding principles?
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>>134934997
>only a Christian would complain about people acting like niggers
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>>134941597
>judeo-christian culture provided the morals which allow you to persist and infest spaces like these, forcing us to tolerate your self centered existence.

Now you see the problem with Christianity. It has no sense of self-preservation, no sense of enforcing order, no sense of preserving Europe or whites.

>>134941746
Since they all have the same basic motivations behind them
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>>134941849

>Since they all have the same basic motivations behind them
Tribal villages in Africa have basic motivations, it's on the same fucking level as saying that apples and potatoes are the same since both are food.
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>>134941849
>>134941988

>Since they all have the same basic motivations behind them
Since I read it wrong since I am tired.

Say what basic motivations they all share. They have power?
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>>134939594
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>>134941988
>>134942195

Perhaps motivations isn't a good enough word.

Generic sub-saharan African tribals don't have much motivation beyond basic survival and attaining things like food and shit, reflecting their racial qualities. In contrast, the Romans (and most of Europe) all had/have a sense of wanting to preserve order; they wanted to instill traditions, uphold law, generally expand civilization. The systems of government which you refer to are all ways they did this, and all of those things are only even conceptually possible because of the fact that they all shared the same basic thinking skills.
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>>134937047
>through blood
like niggers?
It was actually through poetry.
>willing to engage it directly instead of relying on abstractions
>what is platonism
isn't an understanding of abstractions what separates whites from nigs?
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>>134942340

>all had/have a sense of wanting to preserve order; they wanted to instill traditions, uphold law, generally expand civilization.
Multiple politicians and governaments during the republic wanted, and did away with tradition, in fact they exist because of such a reason. And the military dictatorships cared neither for the law, or order or traditions and only did it for a higher pay.

>The systems of government which you refer to are all ways they did this,
Except they didn't.

Not to mention that you seem to amass the worth of morality culture and laws to this supposed idea of moving forward, not looking at it for anything more than that. Did bread and circus expand civilization, did the many political overthrows?
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>>134938458
>you are ignoring your divine command to listen to this logic and reason
commanded by who?
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>>134941743
Unironically worshipping a singular abstraction which literally and theoretically cucks all men.
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>>134942767
>hides the responses
yah nah
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>>134940341
It's a great channel
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>>134942340
That's retarded and incorrect, have you literally never heard of the West Africa iron age which occurred concurrently with the Roman iron age and was the reason why the Bantu population expanded rapidly enough that they began seeking new grazing lands for their cattle over a 1500 year period leading them from what is today Cameroon all the way to the Kei River in South Africa?
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>>134941743
(((stan lee)))

jk ,stan is a good jew
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>>134942742
The gods, who instilled the natural order upon this world. The world operates according to basic laws, as does human thought and reason. Thus, anything which corresponds to these natural ways is inherently divine. To ignore your instinct to reproduce, for example, to defend yourself, and not using logic/reason to establish a foothold on the world around you, you are spitting in the natural way of things and thus divine command.

>>134942919
I have. Bantu populations were never on an equivalent cultural level to the Romans.
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We out here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxTbRqCdbps
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>>134936040
Im kinda confused as to why you are posting a screencap about how paganism is severely degenerate
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>>134943370

*guides your ships*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-43pOqheMY
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>>134943276
Wait a sec, how you are deriving such things as divine command though?
Just because they put them in place as such does not mean they must remain as such or be adhered to as such.
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>>134936197
>literally this fucking guy
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>>134942515
>Everything that isnt an abstraction is niggers/goyim.
This is exactly how Jews think.

Platonism went against the previous idea of a unified reality and seperated it into two, its been mentioned that Platonism was inspired by Plato's eastern travels.
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>>134943409
She's Fingolian, nothing of value was lost.
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>>134943977
Those gets
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>>134944101
>>134944269
>>134944322
Alright, better begin the counterdump.
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>>134944607
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>>134939594
>thinking that crusaders didn't fight muslims
You're smart.

>>134939605
We need to rebuild the traditions and temples without letting the fucking faggot retards take over.

>>134939907
>how many white children have you created by the way?
Probably more than your 0.

>>134940454
>I'm just sick of the infighting. We need to unite our race now, more than ever.
I agree. But, infighting can be good. Steel sharpens steel, etc.

>>134942683
All of those ethics, values, etc were native to the pagans and coopted by Christianity. The ideals of stoicism is originally Greco-Roman before the kikes ever got their hands on us.

>>134942767
>And be strong.

Hah.
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>>134943924
>Plato's eastern travels
what?
>platonism isnt a unified reality
differentiating between an apple and rock isn't dividing reality in two. You're assuming metaphysics and physics are necessarily divorced.
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>>134944607
This doens't refute anything that has already been said and addressed before Varg
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>>134944679
you forgot a little something
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>>134945261
>Christians
>the biggest problem we have

God I wish there was death penalty in Europe...
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>pagans will never know the delicious taste of fresh nigger feet imported from Africa
we are all made the same as brothers in christ, praise (((Yahweh)))
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>>134945655
It's true though, Christianity is what resulted in a materialistic obsession in the west which in turn resulted in importing third world shitskins for cheap labor despite the fact that it would dilute the people and culture.
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>>134934039
arent you kikes bored yet to make pagan generals ?
its a very dumb idea , no ones going like say 'i'll become a pagan now !!!11!'
/pol/ is Christian and made of mostly whites therefore it's a WHITE CHRISTIAN BOARD
WITH A LOT OF INFLUENCE

>afraid yet kikes?
as if anyone actually going hide in the woods and larp the pagan ....kikes = delusional clowns
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>>134946103
no thats jewish greed, don't confound the two you imbecile kike
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>>134946692
>pol is a white Christian board

You cannot have a board that is simultaneously Natsoc which supports hierarchy, race realism, and anti kikery while also having it be mainly a religion which promotes universalism, racial equality, and which originated from Jews and was entirely made up of Jews for its first centuries of existence.
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>>134946949
Woah, it's almost like the Jews, instilled Jewish values, in a religion, originally made up entirely of Jews, written by Jews, promoted by Jews, originating in Jewrusalem?
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>>134946965
>>134947138

Yes you can , you just pick a non cucked Christianity like Orthodoxy, that doesnt promote marxist crap or idolise the jews, just calles the Christ-killing scum, and you're set

>NATIONAL ORTHODOX , BETTER THAN NATSOC


did your jidf boss not teach you that repeating lies eventually fails as a tactic ?

amateur kikes
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>>134943764
>Orthodoxy
>dude let's just have the same beliefs as during the time when Christianity was still 90% Jewish
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>>134948076
Meant for >>134947481
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>>134942332
how many times must your image be debunked? somebody post the debunking of THIS failed christcuck image, that does not even refute what the pagan image said.
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>>134948129
hoho nice try kike , indeed lets keep them when it said jews are THE CHRIST KILLERS, you're pathetic and desperate and it shows

ORTHODOXY OR BUST, kikes belong in hell.
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>>134936963
Non pagan gods and idols are also the same among them. All of those beliefs were labeled 'pagan' (occult) by christians, but in fact all share the same origin.
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Praise and bless Wotan
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>>134947138
As the great Adolf said, jews are not creators: their beliefs, their culture, nothing in them is original. They 'borrowed' from chaldean magic, which in turn comes from the ancient aryan doctrine
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ᚦᚦᚦ Social Media ᚦᚦᚦ

Discord Code: w68tguT

Any questions, interested in learning, Christians on the edge, or just want to debate, feel free to join any of the groups above.
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>>134948829
shut up you fucking imbecile , wotan=zeus=thor=demons , this is the great secret

'praise wotan' ever seen a faggot say praise wotan in real life ?

only proxykikes actually type that stupid shit
>what retards
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>>134949615
>2000 years of European history (or as little as 1000 for Scandinavians with varying times for Germanics and central Europeans) vs tens of thousands of years

What a retarded argument
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>>134949659
what is even happening on that pic
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>There be four things which are lesser [ones] upon the earth, but they bear their own valuable wisdom
>The ants are A PEOPLE not strong, yet they prepare their daily bread in the summer;
>The badgers are but a feeble folk, yet make they their houses in the rocks;
>The locusts have no king, yet go they forth all of them by bands;
>The lizard taketh hold with her hands, and is in kings' palaces.
Genesis 1:24
>AND GOD SAID “Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth AFTER HIS OWN KIND and it was so.

Matthew 7:6 – Say no to rapugees.
>Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
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Luke 3:14
>Soldiers also asked him, ‘And we, what shall we do?’ And he said to them, ‘do not shake them up (to extort) or by false accusation, and be content with your wages.

>If the Christian Religion forbade war altogether, those who sought salutary advice in the Gospel would rather have been counseled to cast aside their arms, and to give up soldiering altogether. Instead they were told: ‘do not extort, nor bring false charges against anyone, and be content with your wages.If he commanded them to be content with their pay, he did not forbid soldiering
- Saint Augustine Ep. To Marcellus, 138

Luke
>And he said to them, “When I sent you out with no moneybag or knapsack or sandals, did you lack anything?” They said, “Nothing.” He said to them, “But now let the one who has a moneybag take it, and likewise a knapsack. And LET THE ONE WHO HAS NO SWORD SELL HIS CLOAK AND BUY ONE. For I tell you that this Scripture must be fulfilled in me: ‘And he was numbered with the transgressors.’ For what is written about me has its fulfillment.” And they said, “Look, Lord, here are two swords.” And he said to them, “It is enough.”

John
>Then Simon Peter, having a sword, drew it and struck the high priest’s servant and cut off his right ear. (The servant’s name was Malchus.) So Jesus said to Peter, “Put your sword into its sheath; shall I not drink the cup that the Father has given me?”
-He said not to throw it away BUT TO PUT IT BACK.

Acts 10 - Peter does not refuse baptism of a Roman Centurion


Matthew 8:5-13 -- Jesus admires his faith and righteousness and never forbids him from being a soldier.

Matthew 10:34
>I come not to bring peace but a sword.

Luke 19:27
>But as for these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slay them before me.”
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Hebrews 11
>And what more shall I say? For time would fail me to tell of Gideon, Barak, Samson, Jephthah, of David and Samuel and the prophets— who through faith conquered kingdoms, enforced justice, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions, quenched the power of fire, escaped the edge of the sword, were made strong out of weakness, became mighty in war, put foreign armies to flight.

Ecclesiastes 3:3
>There is a time to kill a time to heal

Ephesians 4:26
>Be angry and do not sin, do not let the sun go down on your anger.


Luke 12 – Violence used as a positive example in a parable.
>If the servant sayeth in his heart. My lord delayeth his coming" and shall begin to beat the servants and maidens and eat and drink and be drunken. The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh for him not. and at an hour that is he not aware And HE WILL CUT HIM INTO PIECES and will appoint his portion with the faithless. And that servant which knew his Lord's will and did not prepared nor commit to his will HE SHALL BE BEATEN WITH MANY STRIPES. But he that knew not and did not commit things worthy of stripes HE SHALL BE BEATEN WITH ONLY A FEW STRIPES. For unto much is given much is required.

Which is derived from Sirach 42
But of these things do not be ashamed,
>lest you sin to save face:
>Of the Law of the Most High and his precepts,
>or of justice that acquits the ungodly;
>Of sharing the expenses of a business or a journey,
>of dividing an inheritance or property;
>Of accuracy of scales and balances,
>of tested measures and weights;
>Of acquiring much or little,
>of bargaining in dealing with a merchant;
>Of constant training of children,
>OF BEATING OF THE SIDES OF A WICKED SERVANT
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>>134934987
Alexander was gay, his father was gay, most of the soliders were gay (Band of Thebes for example), many 'commoners' like Socrates were gay. Romans were also gay af.

Every homosexual relationship in pic related is portrayed in Greek mythology. There is 0 proof they inherited it from anybody. Sorry but you are very very wrong. You failed hard when you said that it was taboo during Alexander's reign because Alexander was a full fledged homo when he wasn't fucking Persian women.

It's literally part of Greek mygtology, so unless you intend on arguing that they inherited that too from someone else then you're still wrong.
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>>134934987
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_themes_in_mythology
???
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Luke 12
>If the servant sayeth in his heart. My lord delayeth his coming" and shall begin to beat the servants and maidens and eat and drink and be drunken. The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh for him not. and at an hour that is he not aware And HE WILL CUT HIM INTO PIECES and will appoint his portion with the faithless. And that servant which knew his Lord's will and did not prepared nor commit to his will HE SHALL BE BEATEN WITH MANY STRIPES. But he that knew not and did not commit things worthy of stripes HE SHALL BE BEATEN WITH ONLY A FEW STRIPES. For unto much is given much is required.

Which is derived from Sirach 42
>But of these things do not be ashamed,
>lest you sin to save face:
>Of the Law of the Most High and his precepts,
>or of justice that acquits the ungodly;
>Of sharing the expenses of a business or a journey,
>of dividing an inheritance or property;
>Of accuracy of scales and balances,
>of tested measures and weights;
>Of acquiring much or little,
>of bargaining in dealing with a merchant;
>Of constant training of children,
>OF BEATING OF THE SIDES OF A WICKED SERVANT
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>Let us therefore enlist ourselves, brethren, with all earnestness in. His faultless ordinances Let us consider those who serve under our generals, with what order, obedience, and submissiveness they perform the things which are commanded them. All are not prefects, nor commanders of a thousand, nor of a hundred, nor of fifty, nor the like, but each one in his own rank performs the things commanded by the king and the generals.

- Pope Clement I 1 Clement 37 to the Corinthians
- This is St Clement of Roma who was taught and ordained by Apostle Peter and Apostle Paul. WHO IS IN THE BIBLE as verified by the Church Fathers.

Philippians 4:3
>And I [Paul] entreat you also, true yoke fellow, help those women which labored with me in the gospel, with CLEMENT also, and with other my fellow laborers, WHOSE NAMES ARE IN THE BOOK OF LIFE.
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>You have said that all these things are caused by us, and that to us ought to be attributed the misfortunes where with the world is now shaken and distressed...THE WORLD itself is now announcing, and, BEARING WITNESS TO IT'S DECLINE by the testimony of its failing estate...[SUCH AS] The layers of marble are dug out in less quantity from the disemboweled and wearied mountains; the diminished quantities of gold and silver suggest the early exhaustion of the metals, and the impoverished veins are straitened and decreased day by day; the husbandman is FAILING in the fields, the sailor at sea, THE SOLDIER IN THE CAMP, innocence in the market, JUSTICE IN THE TRIBUNAL, concord in friendships, skillfulness in the arts, DISIPLINE IN MORALS.

-Cyprian of Carthage Treatise V, To Demetrianus
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>>134950936
Noone was gay , just Thebes were faggots, everything else was anybodies business. It's not part at all of mythology, read more Aesop.
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Fuck off you kekistan larpers
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>>134935857
We hate faggots because its natural and we've always bogged them. We don't need any text to tell us, we're born this way. Are you saying you'd be pro-faggot if not for the bible? Because thats what it sounds like to me
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>>134952159
The word catamite which is the name for a boy in a homosexual relationship comes from the Latin translation for Ganymede, Catamitus, who was one of Zeus' mortal (gay) lovers.

It was accepted by religious standards, that guy does not know what he's saying.
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Ah I wonder... to wonder how I wonder. To feel the sands of the night... the light of the sun
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>>134953258
Ganymede was the only man that had been transformed into a woman and then back to man and said sex in his female transformation was better , you have only half the story and pretend to be a seasoned expert, get outta here.
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>>134953480
Saved
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REFUTE THIS
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>>134953629
Your welcome
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>>134953480
Holy fuck christcucks are beyond desperate and delusional, they see what they want to see in the jewble.
Stop trying to make terms mean what you want to fit your narrative. Beats literally means BEASTS. It doesn't mean niggers, it means animals. Sorry, but there is no passage in the bibe that forbids racial mixing. Stay desperate. This is the biggest flaw of your religion and will never be forgotten here.
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>>134934039
hello, fellow pagans.
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>>134934039
I AM A SON OF HADES
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>>134949659
Adonai your god is a lesser god.
Demons (daimonistai) are lesser gods.
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>>134954580
If only they saw their Bible it's not even original
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>>134946103
Christianity doesn't instill materialistic values. Christianity is about putting spirit above matter.
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>>134934442
>deus vult meme flag
>concern trolls about killing degenerates
Get your story straight.
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>>134954580
There is nothing in paganism that's going to stop race mixing either. Look at the pic in this very thread of the girl with thors hammer around her neck while being with a nigger. Race mixing is not going be stopped by religion anyways. Judaism is supposed to be racial, and the race mix worse than anyone. It will have to be enforced by law, or by geographic separation.
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>>134961202
Actually, according to Protestantism, you can do whatever the fuck you want with no punishment. Ie you can be materialistic, greedy, selfish, and go against your own tribe and it doesn't matter. That's why it promotes it, because it has no active rules against it.
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>>134961850
False. Aryans, according to Pagan myth, are the holy and most beloved of the humans. It is specifically outlined that the Aryans are the final and most proud creation of Heimdallr. Get educated faggot
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>>134961850
There is, you racemix, you aren't part of the ethnicity nor faith anymore. You are shunned.
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>>134961850
And reddit racemixers who claim to be pagan are usually Wiccan LARPers who follow a made up new age religion created in the 50s by a British Jew with zero basis in our ancestors' traditions and beliefs. If you unironically a 1000AD viking would be fine with the woman in that picture you're retarded.
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>>134962213
Antinomianist protestants believe that, you should say.
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>>134962435
>If you unironically a 1000AD viking would be fine with the woman in that picture you're retarded.
I didn't say they wouldn't be against it. Those are your words, not mine. Them being against it, and it being something specifically delineated against in the pagan religion are two different issues.
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>>134962418
That is not based on pagan myth though, that would just be a declared policy. Just like with the protestant anabaptists. And actually, all white christians, at least in the US, would have held anti-miscegenation believes until fairly recently.
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>>134938670

>HIV comes from bacteria in shit coming into your body
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>>134962329
Again
>There is nothing in paganism that's going to stop race mixing either.
Some hindu book talking about aryans isn't going to stop people from race mixing. Just as halakha doesn't stop jews from race-mixing.
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>>134944101
All the frescos depict Italians. None of them are non-italians.
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>>134962329
Ok? And this is going to stop a Swede from fucking a nigger how?
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>>134965271
Because under a pagan structure of governance and faith race mixing could be fully punished, as opposed to Christianity which has no rules against it and thus allows it the second its followers decide they think it's okay. It's like having a constitution that allows free speech vs one that doesn't. The one without a guarantee for free speech has no obligation to uphold it and as a result it's more likely that speech will be censored.
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>>134965459
WRONG AGAIN NIGGER
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>>134965459
>Christianity which has no rules against it
There doesn't need to be. Look at the christian town of orania in south africa. They simply make it a policy. All governance in a community doesn't have to be based on religious law. I am not arguing in favor of a christian theocratic ethnostate. I am simply saying whether or not christianity is a racial doctrine or not is irrelevant in the context of an all white ethnostate.
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>>134934039

Paganism as you almost certainly imagine it IS jewish propaganda. It is a construct made up by Jewish-dominated past-Enlightenment academia that has almost fucking nothing in common with what even ancient Greeks, never mind practicers of paganisms from which very little survived to our day, like that of the Norse, actually believed. It was made up to seem anything more than a collection of bloody and incosistent superstitions specifically to undermine Christianity.

Take a look at the most advanced paganism in history, Hinduism. A small bunch of Christian adventurers BTFOed a whole sub-continent its adherents and their descendants only failed to kept India under their thumb due to events that flowed from the Europe abandoning Christianity. Hinduism also was not very successful at teaching people to poo in loo of course.
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>>134934039

>LARPaganism general

God dammit, I missed it. These threads are always my favourite because the three or so commited LARPagans are hilarious to argue with

Jesus was the son of God. While many of his early followers were "Jewish" ethnically, Christianity rapidly spread throughout Rome, where it was shaped, then eventually adapted as the state religion. Roman influence is obvious up to the modern day.

Every notable achievement in European history has been done by Christians. There is no remarkable cultural, scientific, or architectural feat of pagans that can even begin to stand to what Christianity has achieved. The only reminder that it ever existed in the first place is the fact that some northern European cultures eat chocolate eggs on Easter and put a tree in their livingroom on Christmas.

Pagans know deep down that their "religion" is total horseshit, that the only records of its existence were recorded by Christians centuries after it died out. And yet many feel compelled, for whatever reason, to abandon the religion that made Europe great to LARP a long dead sorry excuse of a religion.
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>>134966201
That says beasts. You have no reason to think beasts specifically indicates the negroid race in that instance, other than wishful thinking and projection of your ideals. It is incredibly vague and unclear, which means it can be morphed in any way one sees fit.

>>134966366
This is the dumbest post I've ever seen.
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The strength of Christianity, just like the strength of Judaism and Islam, comes from the sheer amount of messages in the scriptures. I'm convinced christfags can reply to anything by quoting a related passage.

Explain why building the same thing, but behind a theology that actually emphasizes the strengths of the white race rather than trying to compound its weakness (i.e. excessive compassion) wouldn't lead to a far superior religion.

Also it's worth noting that in terms of real nationalism vs white nationalism/pan-European identity, polytheism is a lot more flexible.
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>>134966598

Why do you post with a swastika? Hitler was a commited Christian.

"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."

"The völkisch-minded man, in particular, has the sacred duty, each in his own denomination, of making people stop just talking superficially of God's will, and actually fulfill God's will, and not let God's word be desecrated. For God's will gave men their form, their essence and their abilities. Anyone who destroys His work is declaring war on the Lord's creation, the divine will."

My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross. As a Christian, I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice."

"We tolerate no one in our ranks who attacks the ideas of Christianity ... in fact our movement is Christian."

>inb4 4d chess

If you can't trust the words out of a man mouth, what kind of man does that make him LARPagan?
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>>134966598
Got EVIDENCE?
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>>134935857
"The Old Norse word used in the law code and literature for an insult was níð , which may be defined as "libel, insult, scorn, lawlessness, cowardice, sexual perversion, homosexuality" (Markey 75). From níð are derived such words as níðvisur ("insulting verses"), níðskald ("insult-poet"), níðingr ("coward, outlaw"), griðníðingr ("truce-breaker"), níðstông ("scorn-pole") (Markey 75, 79 & 80; Sorenson 29), also níða ("to perform níð poetry"), tunguníð ("verbal níð"), tréníð ("timber níð", carved or sculpted representations of men involved in a homosexual act, related to niíðstông, above) (Sorenson 28-29). Níð was part of a family of concepts which all have connotations of passive male homosexuality, such as: ergi or regi (nouns) and argr or ragr (the adjective form of ergi) ("willing or inclined to play or interested in playing the female part in sexual relations with another man, unmanly, effeminate, cowardly"); ergjask ("to become argr"); rassragr ("arse-ragr"); stroðinn and sorðinn ("sexually used by a man") and sansorðinn ("demonstrably sexually used by another man") (Sorenson 17-18, 80). A man who is a seiðmaðr (one who practices women's magic) who is argr is called seiðskratti (Sorenson 63)."
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>>134966783


>Polytheism is a lot more flexible

Because it has no substance. You don't chose a religion because you think it's co, you pick it because you believe it to be true. I am saved by Christ. There is a tangible benefit to my life, and because of it I will inherit eternal Glory. There is a benefit I gain in this that no pagan LARPing will give any of you. That's why we look down on you, because you advocate for something you don't really believe. You're just atheists who realise how stupid atheism is.

But anyway, lets turn it around.

Remember that Vikings sold whites as slaves to Arabs. White women were especially in high demand.

http://m.thenational.ae/world/europe/when-the-arabs-met-the-vikings-new-discovery-suggests-ancient-links

You can tell why it appeals to the modern Swede, there ancestors basically invented a religion dedicated to weaponised cucking. Not only did they allow their women to have multiple husbands, they actively captured white women, and shipped them half way across the world so they could give them to shitskins.

When that failed they just decided to let all the shit skins into their country and rape their women without consequence.

It's no wonder the only time Nordic people weren't absolute cucks was the few hundred years they were Christians.
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>>134966793
Hitler was committed to Christianity because it was the religion of his nation at the time.
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>>134966793
>>134966845
>>134966366

Top kek
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>>134966890

So the old Norse thought passive male faggotry was degrading, but the active partner was masculine?

That's gay as fuck. Are all you LARPagans closet faggots?
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>>134967033
Right now YOU ARE SHITTING YOUR GODMANED PANTS
STUPID GOY
PRENTENDING TO KNOW TORAH
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>>134966920
>literal copypasta
Is this what people do nowadays when they have no arguments?

The substance of Christianity doesn't come from it being monotheistic, it comes from how fleshed out the Bible is, like I said.
A theology that doesn't restrict that to a singular deity which is all-powerful is, by default, more flexible.
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>>134967019

See, you say that, and then give an (((unsourced quote))), but then I can listen to the words out of his mouth.

https://youtu.be/Sz42hBg4jys

I think I'm gonna have to go with what he said on this one.

Once again, if you can't trust the words out of a man's mouth, what kind of man does that make him?
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>>134967033

That's a mighty fine non argument you got there.

>be Norwegian
>live in a shithole, basicly mudhut tier
>"muh vikings"
>our only accomplishiments so far is infighting, "breddy gudd :DD" boats and shamanistic shit
>Hvitekrist (White Christ) comes and saves us
>Suddenly we have writing (inb4 muh futhark, runes are retarded), agriculture and society
>a few hundred years later we're amongst the richest countries in the world
>Centuries later some faggot welfare queen kills a man and tries to tell us christianty is bad

Why do you think LARPagans deserve anything other than ridicule?
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>>134967019
Like it or not Hitler was a Christian

He hated pagan cucks.Dont forget he banned all lodges including Thule.They were the darkness but Hitler was the Light
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>>134967175

>More flexible

Which is the exact opposite of what a religion should be. If it can change according to the whims of man then it's nothing worth saving.

The reason paganism is gone is because Christianity specifically existed to invalidate it. You no longer deal with powerful gods, they are nothing compared to the infinitely powerful god of the universe. You don't need to sacrifice anymore because God himself has offered his blood up for you to use. There is literally no reason to leave Christianity for reconstructed primitive beliefs.
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>>134967337
>muh mudhuts

t. doesn't know what he's talking about

>dude riches lmao, dude materialism lmao, dude material wealth and obsession over spirituality and connection with your people lmao
>but Christianity is definitely not Jewish despite promoting all the aforementioned materialism!

Get out and read a book faggot.
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>>134967218
You can listen to the words out of his mouth, being said into a microphone, and then projected through speakers to an audience.
He was a politician.
The quote I posted was according to Albert Speer. From private conversation.

Hitler was a pragmatist, and a cynic. Look at how he rejected taking idealist stances on things like economic policy, because ideology is useless there. All that matters is what best serves the German people.
To suggest he would've been content with just throwing everything behind faith in Christ is naive.
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>>134967415
This is objectively untrue. A devout Christian would not have allowed an occultist pagan (Himmler) to have one of the highest positions in the Reich, nor would Goebbels have said that he was anti-Christian, nor would he have a poem talking about Wodan
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>>134967626
>let's conveniently ignore Greco-Roman paganism XD
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>>134967476
>more copypasta
Not according to the whims of man, but to the different nations and cultures that makeup Europe.
Shill your pan-Euro sentiment elsewhere.
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>>134967626
Also the bottom right quote is from a single book by a Jew author trying to promote homsexuality. You'd only think it's a reliable source if you're a commie or a jew.
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>>134967569

>To suggest he would've been content with just throwing everything behind faith in Christ is naive.

I'm not suggesting that. I'm saying I believe what he says.

When there's a discrepancy between post war (((sources))) and the words out of his mouth, then what he says takes precedence.

I mean, it's not like anyone has ever lied about what Hitler or the Nazis did in order to defame then, is it?

Every public deceleration he ever made on faith he committed himself to Christ. I think you're playing some major mental gymnastics in order to turn that into 4d chess.
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Dude, just fuck off okay. I go to these threads to discuss heathen history and my own sense of spitprituality but instead all you people do is talk about jews. Shouldn't we like the jews, since they fight against Christians and Muslims? Why is paganism just about being white to you?

Fuck this board man :'(
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>>134967680
Except...
>>134944101
>>134942767
>>134936040
they're not your ancestors
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>>134967740
EXCEPT...
>>134944269
>>134944322
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>>134944322
>Celts are the exact same
>That wasn't used to justify a war
>First quote is literally debunked by my post as well.

Retard.
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>>134967711

He says, shilling his Skyrim LARP on a christian board.

If you faggots didn't want Christians in your thread, why mention us in the OP?

But ok, let's break this down to the real crux of the issue. Do you really, honestly believe that there was/is an Odin, and a world tree, and whatever else?
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hail satan
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>>134967415
Only superficially because the common german was still mindpozzed by cuckstianity. There were huge hints the the inner circle was definitely gravitating towards the ethnic germanic faiths and myths. I mean look at this, they named some of their largest 600mm guns after Thor and Odin. And thats just the beginning of references to european gods.
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>>134967061
No, it's saying that they had a word that's equal to our word faggot. But what you said is generally how it worked in Rome/Greece. Eating pussy was viewed as gay because it was a submissive role.
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>>134944269

Holy shit LARPagans literally worship a faggot.
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>>134965459
>under a pagan structure of governance and faith race mixing could be fully punished
This makes no sense. If your theology doesn't explicitly condone race-mixing according to its literature than you're just projecting an exterior and personal idea onto it. You think paganism is compatible with governance in 2017? Half the people in this thread wish they were in 3000BC and legitimately believe they are the same steppe invaders from 4000 years ago.
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>>134967815
>then what he says takes precedence
Not when you're actually considering the rest of the factors. Echoing Albert Speer...
Plus, how would Hitler criticizing Christianity be defamation? (((They))) aren't on christfags' side, lol
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>>134967415
Christians can enjoy reading about, and be inspired by wōden.
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>>134968185

So if you can't trust the words out of a man's mouth, what kind of man does that make him?
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Where you
Recognise evil
Speak out against it
And give no truces
To your enemies.
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>>134968039
What does skyrim LARP have to do with you failing to comprehend that an uncompromising religion undermines nationalism?
>on a christian board
You get lost on your way to the_donald?

>Odin, world tree
When did I ever say I was Scandinavian pagan?
This isn't the crux of any issue besides your own insecurities about faith.
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Anyone in here who considers the Jewish old testament to be canon of their religion has literally zero right to talk and can shut their snake kike mouth.

Christianity was a bacteria that white western philosophy managed to render inert. It is the enemy of the white man, a vector for Judaism.
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>>134968295

>Being inspired by a literal faggot

Yeah, no.

>>134944269
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>>134968397
>a politician
Read, please.
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>>134968486
If reading some christcucks propaganda piece of some christcucks biased interpretation of the eddas is your proof, fuck off brainlet. You are an honorary semite. Your saxon ancestors would bog you for sure
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>>134968464

So no, you don't believe in any actual God's, and you're just a LARPing atheists.

This is why we laugh at you faggots.
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>>134968777

My Saxon ancestors were Christian, and they all converted because, honestly, who would want to worship faggots?

Do you like Odin because he drinks semen?
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>>134969227
Look at the crude, vulgar language you use.
Why are christians so obsessed with homosexuals? Must be repression of sexual urges for men. I don't even think about gays honestly, if a faggot is cancerous, bog him be on your way. They aren't going away, the goal is to remove their influence from society, back deep deep into the closet.
But you guys are obsessed with the gays,its a constant witch hunt of projection likely, moralist preaching, then fucking the choir boy behind closed doors like your priests do. Sick judaized christcucks
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>>134969103
>"we"
>pretending there's a crowd behind you to reaffirm your stance

>he's not a Varg follower, can't use my copypastas against him
>better try to make him an atheist instead

Why are you so insecure?
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>>134969227
Anon you're making me laugh. They get mad when you say he drinks semen. They even get mad when you tell them they sacrificed humans for some reason.

Remember when the Vikings pimped out their women to based shitskins?
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>>134969631

>Why are Christians so obsessed with homosexuality

Says the man who literally worships a faggot.

Also, does it surprise anyone else that LARPagans suddenly take issue with homophobia when it's conclusively proven that pagans were actually quite fucking gay?

>>134944269
>>134944322

Must be great to be able to change your moral code when it seems convenient. That's what you get when you don't actually believe in anything.
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>>134969669
talk for you cuck, I agree with that folk
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>>134967939

>things that never happened

keep quoting a book written by a jew that blatantly lies and says that when "odin sacrificed himself" he jizzed.

How fucking retarded and hooknosed do you have to be to twist a sacrifice into an orgasm?

God I hate jews
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>>134970140
Varg? I don't agree or disagree, just never watched him.
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>>134934442
Nah his videos are great for the most part. Nobody is perfect.
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>>134970078
Why would the adherent of a book wherein a man offers his daughters to a mob of feral faggots so they don't rape a stranger be lecturing anyone about degeneracy?

Semites have such a problem with fucking animals that the creator of the universe had to explicitly order them to stop.
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>>134969103
>So no, you don't believe in any actual God's, and you're just a LARPing atheists.
Yeah that makes sense bud. You are a person other people take seriously.

BTW you're from the UK, learn how to use a fucking apostrophe.
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Deyr Fé, deyja Frændr
Deyr sjalfr it sama
Ek veit einn, at aldri deyr
dómr um dauðan hvern.
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>>134973330

Says the man who worships a cock sucking necrophile.
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>>134936040
I hope you are starting to read the source material and not just vargs videos. God knows I have a lot of reading to do.
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Christianity has failed to protect Europe
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>>134974111
There is absolutely nothing that indicates this wasn't made up
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>>134936278
Beautiful poem
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Jackson Crawford kinda blackpilled me on paganism lately. I go back and forth between thinking it can be reconstructed and practiced, and thinking it's wishful larping.
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>>134974269

Well, except peer reviewed archeological data.

>>134944269
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>>134974152

>Source material

>no holy book (Edda was written by Christians)
>no morals
>no culture (apart from LARPing)
>not divine
>undermines Christianity which is crucial for Western social order

You might as well just play Skyrim. It's about as legitimate.
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>>134936278

>We pagans go by the ACT

Then why do you act like such faggots?
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>>134967626
European pagans
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http://flyt.it/W9PSWF
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>>134974644
>scholars for hundreds of years never say anything about this
>all of a sudden two(2) people in the 70s and 80s say Odin was a fag
hmm weird.
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>>134934039
Greeks were white. OC here.

https://harvardmagazine.com/2007/11/dazzlers-html

https://www.ferocesmente.com/mythology/ultraviolet-light-revealed-that-ancient-greek-statues-were-actually-coloured/

https://moco-choco.com/2014/04/18/true-colors-of-ancient-greek-and-roman-statues/

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/true-colors-17888/

https://io9.gizmodo.com/5616498/ultraviolet-light-reveals-how-ancient-greek-statues-really-looked
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>>134974778

And you believe that Zeus and Hera, etc were real? That there is actually a Mt Olympus somewhere?

Oh wait you don't and you're just playing pretend? That's cool.
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>>134974828
So ture
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>>134974809
>http://flyt.it/W9PSWF
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>>134974828

Why does your picture not include Christian knights? Do you realize that the most elite Scandinavian warriors, the Varangian Guard, were Christians?

How many times were Jews kicked out of Christian countries? Google it - countless times. In fact, the religious plurality you are pushing with "making paganism acceptable", serves the Jews more than anything else.
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>>134974862

Well obviously the sources they reference were passed down. That's what a referenced sources is.

Did you attend higher education? It's not a difficult concept to understand LARPagan.
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>>134974999
>How many times were Jews kicked out of Christian countries? Google it - countless times
tbf they would let them right back in again lol
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>>134974999
>varangian guard
>a turkish mercenary group
>not traitors
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>>134975065
Yeah I'm sure these two nobodies had it all figured out and every other Norse scholar is wrong.
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>>134974828

Reminder that the 'united' pagans on the right became the 'divided' Christians on the left.

Also, you don't actually believe in Thor, or Odin. You just like the ascetic. Christians actually believe in the divine and as such even the weakest Christian belief is inherently more valid than any LARPagan.

There's no point advocating for a religion unless you believe it to be true.
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>>134975065
Do you think these sources are magic or something?

It's still just someones words

Again, there is no way to verify the authenticity of these claims
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>>134934039
Fuck off you religiousfags
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>>134975219
This is more about ancestral worship than believing folklore about magic.

All it proves is that we're not gullible idiots like Christians.
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>>134975142

Can't help but notice you don't have an argument.

When you do, you should make sure it's peer reviewed.
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>>134934039
That statue's in the Hermitage right? Looks like one I saw, the size is incredible
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>>134975336

So you admit you're just LARPing atheists who like the ascetic?

Thank you.
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>>134975219
You did great today, go sing a song about desert guy.
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>>134975336

>LARPagan literally admitting he's an atheist

Hahahahah hahahahah.
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>>134975338
What the fuck do you want me to do? Link every Norse scholar that never said any of this horse shit? I'll just say that Hilda Ellis Davidson is probably the most respected Norse scholar ever and she never mentions this in any of her books.
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>>134975341

Do you actually believe in Thor and Odin and whatever, or do you just hate Christianity?
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>>134934039
I'm afraid Dr. Crawford will end up noticing this association and stop making videos. He seems like such a cool guy, so I hope he doesn't. We can all hope he is a secret nationalist, right? He *did* quit teaching at Berkley, for reasons that are quite obvious.
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>>134975494

Actually, I imagine your Pagan Gods are probably on Grinder

>>134944269
>>134944322
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>>134975443
Wow, you actually think the stuff in the bible actually happened?

This is about ancestral worship and tribalism. You'd be hard pressed to find anyone who actually thinks that thunder is produced by thors carriage riding over the clouds.

Stay retarded, christcuck, it's the reason you're losing
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>>134975570
He talked about religion in a q&a video before and he doesn't care about Christianity or paganism.
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>>134975452

So you can't?

Fair enough. Have fun worshiping a confirmed faggot LARPagan.
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>>134975698
>christian can't imagine life without subservience

sad
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>>134975698
>one book said this
>therefore it's true
>let's just ignore hundreds of other works by scholars
okay bud
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>>134934726
Depends on what kind. Hellenistic is fine with it, but according to Tacitus it's not acceptable in German culture, though doesn't mention their religious stance on it. According to Caesar it's common in Celtic society so it was probably fine there. But then again both Germanica and De Bello Gallico are both considered history with a heady touch of mukraking, so take them with a grain of salt. Speaking about Norse paganism, it's not really looked on as being something one can find *acceptable* but it's probably not something that would be worthy of death or exile. Thor dresses up as a woman to get his hammer back from a jotun (under duress though), and Loki sometimes refers to himself as a woman, and has gotten pregnant given birth while in the shape of a mare, though he's generally not considered a role model God.
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>>134975415

One of the many amazing prophecies of Jesus Christ from the Old Testament is that of verse 1 from Psalm 22:

>"O God my God, look upon me: why hast thou forsaken me?"

Many people have said, "Jesus said God has forsaken him on the cross, how could he be the Messiah?"
Jesus was invoking Psalm 22 on the cross. The Psalm was wrote around 1,000 years before Christ was born.

This is significant because a few verses later in the same Psalm it says this:

>"They have pierced my hands and feet."

Some renderings have it;

>"they have torn holes in my hands and my feet"

Strange. It would appear that Jesus Christ invoked a Psalm wrote 1,000 years before He was born that seemed to tell of His very unique death, crucifixion; which did not even exist at the time Psalm 22 was wrote.

Psalm 22 goes on to say:

>"They parted my garments amongst them; and upon my vesture they cast lots."

This is another strange coincidence. It is known that the Roman soldiers gambled, or "cast lots" on Christ's garments as He was being crucified. If Christ was utterly out of His depths and defeated; why does this Psalm--that was invoked as He was in unimaginable pain--foretell of exact circumstances of the very death He was experiencing? Circumstances that no one could have known?

Not only this, Psalm 22 ends by foretelling the great rise of Christendom, which was achieved based on the very death that Christ Himself was experiencing, that the Psalm undeniably addresses:

>"All the ends of the earth shall remember, and shall be converted to the Lord: And all the kindreds of the Gentiles shall adore in his sight."

Remember, at the time of Christ, only one tribe was expecting a Messiah. This Psalm called forth by Christ on the cross predicts His death to an exactitude, and it just happens to predict the unprecedented worldwide conversion based on this death.

Can you give me any pagan source, from any religion, with even an iota of the validity of the Bible?
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>>134975634

>Wow, you actually think the stuff in the bible actually happened?

Yes, because I'm a Christian. The irony of someone telling people to worship Thor and then claiming that religion is retarded is literally amazing.

At least now I know that in future, anyone who claims to be a pagan is just an atheist who realises how stupid atheism really is.

Amazing.
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>>134975645
Oh yeah, I know, but at the same time I'm worried he'll be alerted to us and alarmed that a site frequently referred to as "Nazis and racists" will spook him from making more content. Which would be a shame, I'm looking forward to more of his videos on icelandic.
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>>134975634

>LARPagans are actually atheists

Amazing
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>>134975850
>Posts wise words
>Those words come from the fucking desert
>Those words were written by Jews
>He thinks he has an argument
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>>134975801

>Let's ignore peer reviewed and referenced work just because

Still not an argument
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>>134976106
100 books saying one thing, 1 saying another. Wow guess Odin was a faget. Really made me think
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>>134976031

So you can't find anything as valid as the literal word of God in ANY pagan religion?

Why do you think that is LARPagan?

And let me as you. Do you actually believe in Thor/Odin/etc?
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>>134976106
>S
>C
>I
>E
>N
>C
>E
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>>134976181

100 books claim he didn't suck cock?

Can your reference them? As in 'this claim has been disputed because X'

See, still not an argument.
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>>134975952
If that was going to happen I think it would've already. But yeah it would be sad if he stopped making videos.
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>>134976260

And the scientific validity of pretending to be a pagan when you're really an atheist, just because you hate Christianity is?
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>>134976207
Google: "Oral tradition"
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>>134975850
It's almost like someone with a keen mind for the Talmud, referred to by his followers as Rabbi, would have a good knowledge of the holy text of the religion he was fanatical about. Zealots like Jesus frequently commit their holy book to memory. Look at the fire and brimstone preachers of the US, the Huffiz (Muslims who've memorized the entire Quran), and Rabbis. Oral tradition is a huge deal in a society where not everyone can read. Keep in mind both the Poetic Edda and Illiad/Odyssey were both completely memorized by people before they were written down. Imagine you watched a video series a few times a week for a few years. Eventually you would know it inside and out. That was essentially how people lived back then.

Or, second, more likely explanation: whoever wrote down the gospel (who had been preaching Christianity for a while) stuck in the psalm because someone noticed that it fit the crucifixion narrative.
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>>134976374

And when that oral tradition is overtaken by a more valid faith, that kind of proves my point.

And answer me heathen, do you actually believe in Thor/Odin etc?
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>>134967626
Google: "Renaissance"

Those "Christian" artworks were all inspired by pagans.
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>>134976419

And considering all early Christians died horrible deaths, and got nothing out of it for centuries after these texts were written and combined, what would be the point in pulling off the most convuluted scheme in history?

The simplest solution is always the best, LARPagan.
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>>134976491
Not that guy, but I like snorri sturlusson's explanation. The gods were people long ago who did great deeds, or archetypes of people that had their deeds expanded by people who fit their personality/description and eventually things go out of hand, but were valued because they embody cultural and moral values of the society to which they are native.
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>>134975526
Do you not see that the gods are just avatars of the ancestors and/or forces of nature?
The word "god" in the original sense meant "spirit of the burial mound".
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Germanic/gud%C4%85
There is no guy who hung himself on a tree literally, that's just a metaphor.
It's a reincarnation myth. He hung on the tree (placenta) and was fed neither food nor drink (because he got nutrients via the umbilical chord), 9 nights (months of pregnancy) long, shrieking (birth cry) he fell down and took up the runes (knowledge of his past life, "rune" means secret in its original meaning).
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Germanic/r%C5%ABn%C5%8D
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>>134976568

Wonder why those pagans all converted once they saw true divinity.
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>>134976491
Nope, I believe in Perun, who is the same guy as Thor, Perkunas, Perkele, Ares, Mars, Zeus, Jupiter.
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>Calling it pagan
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>>134976287
Where is the proof in the book?
A random person says x happened when the vast majority of work on pre-christian Germanic society never mentions it.
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>>134976616
I don't know what convoluted scheme you're talking about. I'm not sure which (or if it's all) of the gospels has Jesus referencing the psalm, but here's how I'm thinking it happened. Peter and Paul and Mathew and Mark or whoever are preaching their narrative to the Jews, one of whom notices and shows them the psalm. Whoever it was is then free to either add that bit in later when it gets written down, or just simply say "oh gosh, you know what, he totally mentioned that!"
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>>134976669

So you don't believe in them, you just assume that maybe they might have been people that inspired stories?

Is it any surprise that such a weak belief system crumbled?
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>>134976773
Google: "Northern Crusades"
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>>134936197
Tbh, no.
Just in celtic gaul, there were hundreds of different traditions and tribal culture.
And some were flaming homos.
Same under roman empire.
Greeks and macedonians had mandatory faggot upbringing in half of their city states.
Homos were banned by middle age christians.
Basically, half of pagan cultures were gay pride with winged helmets.
Sorry to break your dreams.
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>>134976692

A more succinct reply would be 'no I do not actually believe in Thor and Odin, I just like LARPing to ideas'

How does that make you any better than people who base their world view on Star Trek? Or MLP? If there's no inherent metaphysical basis in a religion then it's not a religion.

And the irony of a self admitted atheist shilling for a dead religion is amazing.
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>>134974999
Christians gave jews special rights in order for them to charge interest, so the king could tax them later. They were used as a loophole around Christian doctrine(how convenient, almost like a self fulfilling prophecy) regarding interest charging. Christians handed the wealth of medieval Europe over to the jews.
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>>134976795

Are you claiming that Jupiter and Mars are the same God's? And that Mars was hung on a tree and died in Ragnarok fighting a world snake?

Oh wait, you're just trying to shoehorn your belief system into a dead religion and have somehow managed to combine Greek and Viking mythology together in some fanfiction-esque hojpoj of beliefs because it's easier than admitting you're actually an atheist who doesn't believe in any of it, but hates Christ.

Once again, amazing.
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>>134976841

>Peer reviewed archeological based on new discovery is wrong because

Finish the sentence.
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>>134977269
so you honestly believe yahweh is/was some kind of supernatural being?
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>>134977326
becuase there is no way to trust the intention of these (((peers)))
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>>134977053
Because the divinity is in my blood. Have you not understood what I wrote?
Odin and the gods are my ancestors. Thus I shall honor them. Their heroic adventures got written in a way children find entertaining, the way a child likes Santa Claus, but it also includes wisdom for the adults who know what the little things mean.
Take the rune song for example. A child will imagine a man hanging from a literal tree, a yew perhaps, while those who know see the metaphor for rebirth and reincarnation.
The thing is, I myself am a child of these gods and I shall live my life in a way that befits them, in honor and courage. If you consider living an honest life as LARP, then there is no use talking to you, as you don't want to see.
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>>134977077

Saying Christianity is jewdized is retarded. Under pagan Rome, Jews enjoyed full citizen rights, as in most of the pagan world, including Greece, Syria, etc. However, once Christianity became a political power, around the 4-5th centuries, Rome made it illegal for Christian citizens to practice Jewish customs, and even turned many pagan practices into Christian traditions.

By the turn of the 11th century, most European nations were already Christian and totally different from rabbinic or Talmudic Judaism. In fact, no christian nation has ever historically adapted anything from Judaism. (Which is why I use the term Christian values, not Judeo-Christian, as that never existed). There was no commonality in the practice of these two religions. Even the interpretation of biblical laws were different. In fact, even Jesus himself condemned the Jews of his day and all their unbiblical or extrabiblical laws. Jesus was one of the biggest opponents of "Jews", which is why they passionately hated him.

By the 16th century, many European countries already had a history of expelling Jews or making them pay extra fines/taxes to live there. Most Jews didn't enjoy full citizenship rights either.

The only reason why "Jews" have been able to get such power, wealth, etc, in these recent past centuries is because they hate Christians. Their whole purpose of gaining global power and influence is to destroy Christianity and Christendom (the Western world), or White people, who are the ones who spread Christianity to other peoples.

Jews were able to live with pagans because they mutually did not pose a threat to each other. They stayed separate for the most part, e.g. kept to themselves (in designated communities, e.g. Greece, Syria, etc). When Christianity came to the forefront, the world was turned upside down, and Christianity gained the most influence in every aspect of life. This turned certain "Jews" in power to become anti-christ, just as when Jesus himself came.
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>>134976878
It crumbled because it was facing a highly organized, codified religion. Codification is the only thing that determines a religion's survival. The Vedas are codificationof an offshoot branch of the same original Indo-European religion that spawned all indigenous European religions (ech, there might have been some enclaves of pre-IE religions with Basques in Aquitaine or on Sardinia or something, but they're irrelevant), and they've survived millenia of attempts to convert India one way or the other. They survived because they had an organized priest class and everything was written down. Further, it's not a localized religion. It doesn't matter where you're from, it's still applicable, in hindu dogma.

Honestly the only organized religion with a priest class and widely-available holy texts is Zoroastrianism (and maybe Manichaeism but that's really a synthesis of Christianity and Zoroastrianism), which got wiped out over time by Islam's practicality. Note, too, that the even more organized and codified Christianity was also wiped out in Persia and the fertile crescent. Save for a very very small minority.
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>>134977348

Yes. And he came to earth in the form of Jesus Christ. if

If you think that's absurd ponder this - the 'pagans' in the thread are self admitted atheists who are unironically shilling for Gods they don't actually believe in.

Just think about that for a second.
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>>134977384

Still not an argument.
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>>134977269

Read this:

>>134976692


Gods are old, very old, some stories got off the rail, but Gods are as they were.

Do you believe in everything minor christian religions propose? Catholic, protestant, yehowa, mormons?

Go be retarded some other places.
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>>134977269
He's just following Roman tradition by conflating the gods. Which is what you're doing by being Christian.
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>>134975850
That's typography. The New Testament was written to invoke the Old Testament on purpose. The Gospels were all Roman Flavian propaganda to subvert the militaristic Jews they had just conquered.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-jDH3Sn9Pw
CAESAR'S MESSIAH
Who was Jesus?
Why were the Gospels written in Greek, rather than Hebrew or Aramaic?
Why were the first Christian Pope and saints all members of the Flavius Caesar family?

In his book Caesar's Messiah, Atwill outlines a revolutionary discovery: the series of events in Jesus' ministry described in the Gospels are exact, sequential parallels to the the battle campaign of Titus Flavius, as recorded by Josephus in War of the Jews. From this revelation, Atwill unravels one of the best kept secrets of our modern era–that the origins and intentions of Christianity are far different than we have been led to believe.

The key came in Josephus’ War of the Jews, which describes Titus’s destruction of Jerusalem in 70 CE. The military campaign exactly paralleled over 40 moments in the ministry of Jesus described in the Gospels; an inconceivable coincidence.

As Atwill presents in Caesar's Messiah, the Flavian Roman imperial family created Christianity to pacify the militaristic opposition to their rule. Even more incredibly, they placed a literary satire within the Gospels to mark their handiwork. This symbolic framework is the hidden history of Western civilization. In his follow-up book, Shakespeare's Secret Messiah, Atwill shows how this typology was understood and employed by Marlowe and Shakespeare, and what it means for the future of the Christian world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=284&v=TY1_sYnr0gE
The Deception of Constantine
Constantine mixed Mithraism, Apollo worship, and Christianity to vault himself into popularity.
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>>134977394

So you don't believe they're Gods, despite Pagan belief structure deifying them as Gods, but you think you have some insight into them not being God's but you're unable to vocalise what that is?

Once again. You're an atheist trying to show horn your belief structure into a dead religion. You're advocating for 'gods' and then claiming they're not Gods. It's quite amazing actually.
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>>134977548

I responded to the LARPing atheist here

>>134977683
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>>134977683
God means "spirit of the burial mound".
Thus god means "spirit of the buried ancestor".
Thus god means "spirit of the ancestor".
Thus, the divine is my ancestor. Therefore, I am too divine as I am of the same blood.
Are you retarded that you can not understand something this simple?
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>>134937508
Except that we do. Now get in the bog.
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>>134977683
We believe in pagan Gods, because there fit us and are tens of thousands years old, they describe our nature and our dreams.

You believe in one God because some Jew wrote a book on a desert and then forced it on other people.
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>>134977862

And because miracles continue to this day, the miracle of the sun and the Fatima revelations for example happened less than 100 years ago. It's also shaped the world more than any other force and is the most logically consistent belief structure.

But yes, I have faith in God.

And you into believe in 'the gods' you've already admitted you're atheists. You just like LARPing. There's no more sense calling them God's than there is calling your grandparents God's
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>>134977793

I believe in my ancestors. Even met some of them. Doesn't mean they're Gods LARPagan. Do you worship grandma too?
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>>134977862

>They describe our nature and dreams

No, you're just shoehorning your belief into a dead religion you don't actually believe in.
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>>134978168
We just aren't brainwashed like you wannabe jews
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>>134978051
Perhaps you would be more satisfied with this: there is one divine essence, but it chooses to reveal itself in the forms most culturally suitable for various peoples. So all Pagan religions are in essence, part of a broader pantheos.

This is the essence of Hinduism, which is the oldest attested Indo-European religion. It was practiced by whites from the steppe before they began to write. This is also the general attitude taken by bronze age philosophers. The Egyptian gods exist in Egypt, but the Akkadian gods exist in Babylon. Both represent aspects of life forces of nature, and facets of the human psyche, but simply temper their representation by being passed through a cultural filter.
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>>134978051
Are you doubting the wisdom of your forefathers?
Are you valuing the word of some Jew more than that of your own blood?
Well, obviously you do.
>>134978104
Do you know of the Bon festival in Japan?
It's a Buddhist festival to honor the spirits of the ancestors.
So yes, some of us do.

But I won't spend more energy trying to do the impossible. Convincing someone like you to reason for themselves is a Sisyphus task.
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>>134978051
>But yes, I have faith in God.

Good for you, now fuck off.
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>>134978349
>>134978051
Oh, and the reason we even bother is because we realize our own insignificance. We seek to anthropolomorphize the physical order of the universe.
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