HAPPENING: OBONGOCARE REPEALED!

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>>134904458
Give me a quick rundown on this. What did John McBrain (An american Zero) vote?

McCain voted yes

>They voted to start talking about it
Can we at least pass a fucking bill first?

>>134904617
Voted yes, but the vote OP is talking about is just to decide if they want to debate it at all.

Kek is listening!

>>134904458
YES!!!
SO MUCH WINNING!!!

>>134904458
God emperor has driven the final nail into the nigger's legacy. This is the penultimate timeline boys. Glad we can share it with each other.

>>134904458
FUCKING LINK YOU FUCKING FAG SON OF A BITCH RETARDED AUTISTIC CUNT

They voted to debate it.

>>134904824
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/25/us/politics/senate-health-care.html

GOP in shambles.

>>134904878
Always archive or screenshot https://archive.is/vh5E6

It was just a preliminary vote if I'm not mistaken

I can't wait until he starts ranting about Russians....

Not what happened. This vote just allows them to discuss a reapeal on the floor.

PROOFS?

Is there a stream of this?

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its real

>motion to proceed means the obamacare is passed!

this is like the third version of repeal to get this far

summer conservatives

>>134904458
How the fuck is McCain recovered so well so quickly. Has he been eating abortion or something

Goddamn McCain is really laying it out. Come on talk about Russia... oh there he goes he finally is blaming Trump.

>>134904458
>repealed

you're a fucking idiot

they voted to continue debate you retards

>>134905050
He made a deal with the devil.

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Not repealed, Senate votes to start health care debate

Fucks up obamacare anyway since now insurance companies will jump ship. I hope you're happy. You fucking morons.

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>>134905050
Your tax payer dollars paid for his 100,000$+ health services. Better care than you'll ever get goyim, oh the irony.

>>134905176
fuck off leftist

>>134904907
Bless you, archiving Norwegian.

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>>134905050

>>134904458
This means literally nothing, unfortunately. All it did was open debate. Fucking RINOs are gonna renege on their PROMISES and block the repeal. I hate this country and this party

>>134904458
proofs or GTFO!

>>134904907
Thank you sir

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>donnie needs mikey to break a tie for a vote to talk about a bill

THE ART OF THE DEAL AMIRITE

>>134905312
literally google
>>134905037

>>134905176
>Implying Obamacare didn't do this to itself.
Stupid fuck

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>>134904458
>REPEALED!

>>134905050
>Has he been eating abortion or something

With Mayo. It's the secret sauce.

All they did was vote to debate it

Its still going nowhere

FAKE NEWS

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>>134904458
Nice sources.

>>134905312
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/25/us/politics/senate-health-care.html

inb4 screenshot

>>134904458
Thats a good start, at least. not too much to beexcited about yet

Just shut up McCain.

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>>134904617
A quick rundown?

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>>134904907

Universal healthcare is the real redpill. Prove me wrong.

>>134904824
Breathe lad. Calm the fuck down.

>McCain
Just die, man

>>134904458
Thank Christ
>Got taxed last year for being a healthy adult
>Decide to investigate healthcare costs
>Input my information
>Make about 4k a month
>Monthly premium is almost 1000
>Change my ethnicity to Black or Latino
>Monthly premium less than 200

This bill was never anything other than an attempt to subsidize health insurance for minorities by taxing white people.

>>134905423
UHH YOU CUNT i HAD A SEIZURE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>134905443
The gop is fucking themselves harder and harder in the ass everyday.

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>>134905489
>This flag
>This post

>>134904458
i am tired of winning and i am not even american. WTF TRUMP PLS STOP ICANT HANDLE THIS.

>martain colonization when?

He just said we that 'we don't hide behind walls', but he has a political ad saying he was gonna build that 'dang wall'...

God will he shut up!!!!!!

>>134905146
Fuck ye he must have

>we don't hide behind walls, we breach them

>we

>>134905257
Straw man
>>134905394
Implying Rome is built in a day

What else you morons got? You're just like these old ass republicans--thinking you know what the people want but still worrying about hundred year old GOP values when the people are telling you you're morons. Stop watching fox news

McCain thinks that he's gonna come back....

>>134905489
>Prove me wrong.
Forcing Doctors to work on people is nigger tier.

>>134905529
That's actually impossible, premiums don't work like that.

>>134905689
you'll know we're memeing fantasies into reality if the moment they remove the cancer from his brain he stops voting centrist

>>134905241
Yep theres a reason why they made themselves exempt from the abortionate care act

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So many shills ITT scared shitless trying to talk down the reality of the situation. It's moving forward even if we have to drag you dipshits by the neck kicking and screaming the whole way.

>>134904635
Bill already passed the House m8.

But they aren't even working off that pile of shit so after the Senate finishes, if they even can, whatever they whip up will have to be sent back to the House, so it's not like that matters in the least.

Is this going to be a repeal or some Trumpcare POS that only kicks the can down the road?

>>134905489
it only really works in small countries like Hong Kong. I don't think i'd work in our country considering our geography and our population. You can get basically the same as universal healthcare through changes in the free market.

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>>134904458
wrong

>>134905897
The latter.

>>134905176
Wow it's almost like making insurance markets dependent on the political situation in Washington is a dumb idea
>WHO
>WOULDA
>THUNK

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>>134904458
i thought trump & co where just gonna let Obamacare fail ?

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Now lock Kraemer and Obama up for organizing protests where police went to the hospital.

SINCE NOW EVERY PERSON DEAD IN US WILL BE TRUMP'S FAULT

I HOPE YOU ARE HAPPY WITH IT YOU FUCKING MURDEREEEEEEEEEEEEEEERS

>>134904458
Fuck Yeah! LOSERS WITH PREEXISTING CONDITIONS BTFO! HAIL TRUMP, HAIL INSURANCE COMPANIES!

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>>134904674
Oh, so it's literally nothing. Great.

When is the INSURANCE meeting over, and when do they actually discuss HEALTHCARE?

Lmao

-McCain said he will vote No on the current bill.
-They still have to send back something to congress if they can pass anything at all
-Trump's approval rating is so low that he can't even stump for this piece of shit repeal and replace attempt b/c he can't lend any support to anyone

>>134904458
Link?

>>134906052
>HAIL INSURANCE COMPANIES!

You what nigger? Insurance companies like Obamacare because its anti-competition and its also forced demand. kys.

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>>134906040
Not gonna lie, former Obama voter here. This is fucking hilarious watching Obama crash and burn. But in all seriousness we can't let this guy get the nuclear codes.

>>134904624
That senile old cunt hasn't redeemed himself just yet, for all the bad things he's done.

He'll still rot in hell.

>>134905443
The GOP is making sure they never have control again.

>>134904775
what's happening in the ultimate timeline, Hitler won the war?

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>>134905685
>Implying Rome is built in a day
Not an argument.

>Stop watching fox news
And start watching what exactly anon?

>>134904907
This guy.

>>134904458
who are those 2 reps that voted no?

>>134904458
just in time for the economic crash desu

>>134906052
exactly. preexisting niggers niggers need to be gassed along with the trannies and jews.

>>134904458
>WASHINGTON — With Vice President Mike Pence casting a tie-breaking vote, Republicans moved forward on health care reform Tuesday as the Senate successfully passed a key motion to proceed to debate on repealing and possibly replacing Obamacare.

yay, they have decided to talk about repeal/replace

BIG FUCKING WHOOPDEDOO

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>>134905566
>The gop is fucking themselves harder and harder in the ass everyday.
By following through with one of trumps campaign promises ?

>>134905566

He said a quick run down not a liberal spin up

>>134905991
>this isn't a chessboard, it's your grave
kek

>>134905814
This! Get fucked single payer pushing shills!

>>134906274
Collins and Murkowski

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>Tricare at the VA
>Medicare
Must be nice having government paid-for treatment for his brain cancer, not that he gives a damn about anyone else having the same benefit.

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>>134906040
Poor old people and blacks.

Young healthy people like me will have more CHA-CHING in our pockets. The Jews have taken enough from us.

>>134906274
Collins and Murkowski. Not really Republicans.

Maybe drudge is a little paranoid?

http://drudgereport.com/

Hope shit hit the fan in september... im moving out the country next month and i dont want problems.

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>>134905566

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>>134905176
obama and clinton should have thought about that before obamacare bullshit was even pushed through
but its not like they actually give a fuck

>>134906335
Trump promised not to touch entitlements, to cover everyone, and to do it cheaper. That is not what is happening.

>>134906274
The good guys.

>>134905050
Citizens in the US get "insurance". Senators and congress get a blank cheque.
If McCain was a citizen, he would obviously be at 80 years and after having skin cancer.
As it stands, he has had hundreds of thousands in medical treatment on the tax payers dime.
Let them eat cake, etc.

>>134905566
>GOP finally stops holding their dicks and actually seems ready to get some shit done
>This is a bad thing
I know you're baiting but this is really low effort shit

>>134906420
Do you think that this is going to go well for the republicans, and the American people as a whole?

>>134904458
YOU HAVE TO POST SOURCES! SPECIALLY WHEN YOU CLAIM A HAPPENING!

>AHSFLHAJADSFBGAHLFAB JFBASKFAFASFHAF I HATE YOU

with no replacement ready the Better Deal might actually be able to get some traction

maybe /pol/ will understand why single-payer is necessary when you start getting booted off of your parents' healthcare plans

>>134906245
>And start watching what exactly anon?
infowars

>>134904458
Congrats Americucks. This is gonna hurt the Progs bad.

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>>134905814

Needs the vice president to break a tie on a procedural vote. Ya, this is going to be a landslide xD.

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>>134904624
Hes still going to hell, He decided to get his head out of his ass a little too late

>>134904458
how is a healthcare program such a big deal it's not like they voted whether to build fema camps or not why are you americunts so retarded

>>134907068
They are incapable of helping who they promised to help. They only care about their donors. The poor whites will not see an improvement in their quality of live if the Republicans push through a bill.

>>134906981
Get your fucking shinebox coon>>134907074

>>134906647
Make no mistake those two are likely getting lured into swapping parties by Schumer. Same way Reid tipped the Senate back to Dem in 2001 by pulling over Jim Jeffords. "Be the hero America needs, ladies..."

>>134907074
I think it's going to end in you either dying or taking care of yourself.

Get fucked nigger. Big daddy government titty just ran out of the white mans money

>>134904624
Well of course he did. I expected him to. He hates Trump, the non-establishment, the non-good-ole boy, the one lacking the hive stink, SO MUCH that he uses his dying breath to force Pence into a tiebreaker vote so the media can bitch about it. A true RINO to the end.

>>134906801
I am glad hillary lost. I am glad this is happening. Republicans are showing us how effectively they can govern.

>>134906245
Of course it wasn't an argument. Neither was the initial response that beckoned it

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>>134907176
>Being on your parents healthcare when your 24-26
>implying its a bad thing that they get booted off of it

hahhahaha oh my..... Sounds like someone is a man child that is still living with mammy and daddy

>>134906855
This will end in millions losing coverage, several thousand dying, the GOP losing everything, and single-payer getting enacted.

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Amicus Humani Generis just posted the video of Mike Pence breaking the tie.
All hail our Electric Overlord.

Thank fucking god. Now I don't have to pay for my insurance and that shit stain cunt that goes to work on her back

>>134907535
Maybe they should get jobs. We do have Medicaid. And emergency rooms. Nobody is going to be "left to die." Liberal whiney-ass bullshit. "Don't take it awaaaaaay." GET A JOB. The only thing being "taken away" is money from the middle class to pay for worthless losers.

>>134907637
What's his name again?

>>134907507
the whole point of the post is that /pol/ consists mainly of man-children using their parents' coverage.

it will be interesting to see a libertarian-minded bunch deal with the consequences of a deregulated healthcare industry

>>134904458
they are only voting on whether to debate it or not. hurry up and wait

>>134907535
I love how the argument is

>Hundreds of millions will lose coverage tomorrow!!!
meanwhile
>Less than ten million got coverage

>>134907712
Mike "LBGTBBQ" Pence

This is awesome. I pay a little more than one full paycheck per year for "muh healthcare" which I can not hope to use because the deductible is 1300 dollars. So my "muh healthcare" is nothing but a subsidy for fat, indigent god damn fucking NIGGERS and now that week's pay is back in my pocket where it belongs.

(and will soon go to some hooknose's pocket because I need to get my CC debt down a bit)

>>134907343
>They are incapable of helping who they promised to help.
Lol yeah because the coastal liberals in Washington with their Tumblr-tier social agendas are veritable champions of the common man
>quality of live
Lmao

>>134907443
>>134907355
Many of the people who fly your flag are politically unsophisticated. They are expecting something good too happen to them because that is what Trump promised them. However, trump doesnt know the first thing about health care, and he is going to break his promise not to touch entitlements. I can guarantee you that if the Republicans pass a law, it is going to harm people you care about.

>>134905176
i am happy, yeah

>>134906240
Kel. It's surprising how many people use the word penultimate without knowing what it actually means

>>134905176
obamacare is fucked anyway. O is not there to steal money from Fannie and Freddie to prop it up

Gratz for uncucking yourself america!

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>>134905912
What about countries with affirmative citizenship, or greater restrictions on citizenship, with state provided healthcare to citizens?

>>134907926
Get spooked you fucking idiot. I'm a Yankee and no one I know has ever received or asked for entitlements. Your strawman of muh everyone uses it has no power here. Move to Canada you fucking faggot because your well dried up

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>>134907802
>implying we are man-children because you think ad-hominem attacks make sense
>Implying we don't understand this
>Implying we don't welcome this
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahh

>the whole point of the post is that I want free healthcare so im going to try and make /pol/ think its a good thing by calling them names

wew lads' we have an intelligent one here
Please kindly go back to where ever you came from.

>>134907261
Who said anything about it being a landslide? You liberal dipshits can only think in extremes. It's moving forward and there's nothing, especially some cucked leaf like you, can do about it.

>>134905489
Charlie Gard.

>>134905529
You get put in the poor house due to the premiums (with no realistic hope of using the services due to the deductible) and this offsets the premiums of migrants and minorities who hate you, and the liberals think THIS is fucking "moral." It's not moral, it's pure evil. This is tyranny.

Shut it down, string em up, boot em out. White Ethnostate now!

>>134907918
Say what you will about Obamacare, it gave people with prexisting conditions access to healthcare. For those with preexisting conditions, the value in that cant be overstated. The democratic administration made real change in people's lives for the better.

All that Trump will do (if he does anything) is give kickbacks to the rich, harm the elderly, harm the poor, and harm the sick. That's the reality of what is happening. The Republicans last bill had an approval rating of 17%. There is no public case for what they are trying to do.

>>134906177
>supermajority and owns the govt
>so much in fighting from demopubs that nothing is still not getting fucking done
Gotta love it

>>134905050
He's been suckling the sweet neocon milk out of his daughter's sweet mammary glands

>>134904907
If you ever put down a name, I will name my firstborn after you.
Heder og ære til deg, landsbror.

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McCain said he would NOT vote for the bill as it is.

>>134908238
>Sounds like someone is a man child that is still living with mammy and daddy

>im going to try and make /pol/ think its a good thing by calling them names

this is pretty low-effort bait considering i didn't even start the name-calling

>>134905045

Summer conservatives from 2015.

Amazing that in two years of being loud memeing GOP cucks they still don't understand how the system works and they think that this bill will make it all the way through.

>"hurrrrrrrr but election night you said the same thing!"

Yep, because your good luck won't run out ever. Underestimating the opposition hasn't fucked you guys over before OH WAIT a black guy got elected twice and still is loved way more than Trump will be

>>134906040
quit the cunt liberal fear mongering

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>>134904617
Just..... I love you.

>>134908223
Well I am a southerner, and I know a lot of low-income whites who will feel betrayed if this bill passes. When groups like the AARP come out
strongly against the republicans legislation, it makes people nervous. Trump sold these people a bag of lies, and now watching the Republican congress try and craft a bill that meets all his promises feels like watching someone try and pull a rabbit out of a hat.

>>134905037
Yeah the Senate is even more useless than a welfare recipient.
That passing to even talk about something is seen as an accomplishment is a travesty to governance. No wonder this nation is circling in the bowl.

>>134908691
You know so many that not a single southern state voted Hillary. Congrats you fucking moron. Yu come to an anime forum to try and shill your healthcare scam. Fucking neck yourself

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>>134904458
It's official, mates. We've lived long enough to witness it: the word "Happening" doesn't mean anything anymore.

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>>134908529
>tries to play the victim
>redd.t spacing
>shilling for socialistic programs
>is fucking retard and has no cognitive thinking skills
>Probably got all his knowledge about economics and healthcare from NPR or CNN

Single payer healthcare is some commie shit
please go rope yourself

>>134907230
Lets be honest here. Infowars is garbage.

>>134908691
Healthcare works when you dipshits in gov leave it alone. Go die now

>>134908413
>All that Trump will do (if he does anything) is give kickbacks to the rich, harm the elderly, harm the poor, and harm the sick.
Wrong. Repealing a program is not the same thing as harming people. No one has a right to have their healthcare paid for by the government. An unpleasant reality but a reality nonetheless.

They should just flat repeal it.

We don't want a new Obongocare lite.

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>>134908587
>a black guy got elected twice and still is loved way more than Trump will be

Holy shit the shills in this thread are unbelievably hilarious. For fuck's sake you sound like you're from NK talking about obama.

>be american
>get shot
>go to hospital
>-$15000

>>134906981
[citation needed]
he promised to repeal it you sophist fuck

>>134906335
nice meme, I'll take it

>>134907700
this

>>134908880
Infowars is garbage but alex jones is pretty entertaining and his memes are pretty good at purple pilling normies

>>134908691
I am a southerner. The only "low-income whites" I hear bitching about it going away are brainwashed college students, and unemployed losers who want to smoke pot all day and play vidya and eat Tony's pizza rolls. The legitimate complaints I have heard about this were from people who saw their payments SKY ROCKET, and were consequently bumped from lower-middle class to poverty. I know of several people who closed their businesses and went to find work at the government level for the insurance benefits.

>>134908975
Sadly, this is exactly what it used to be like.

Thou art a hero

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No one has a "right" to healthcare. It's literally a product that you purchase.

>>134908875
UHC is so profoundly dysgenic, it'll secure the end of white America, and thus America as we know it to be a good place to live. Fuck this place if that ever gets passed.

>>134909002
>t. newfag

>>134908975
>be american
>land of the free
>forced to get health insurance when you can't afford it

>>134904458
TWICE
W
I
C
E

UNPRECEDENTED VP POWERLEVELS

>>134909133
That's why healthcare is tied to employment, because it makes us reliant on asshole companies and makes us eschew innovating and starting a business and creating a handful of jobs. New businesses just means more competition, so we can't have that because the unelected donors who write the policy don't want competition.

Can't wait to watch Trump voters start to lose their health insurance, shit's gonna be hilarious!

God I'm so sick of hearing about health care.

Would you fucks pass it already.

>>134909371
Bingo. This is where all of the chips fall. Everybody, working or not working, is completely dependent upon the government to survive while big businesses take over our towns. Obamacare was one last horrible push in this direction. I can't believe more people don't see this.

>>134909402
>can't wait to see everyone get health care for the cheap
>can't wait for everyone to have more money in their pocket to pay for their cheap free market health insurance

ftfy

>>134905756
I'm p sure the hippocratic oath does that already

>>134904458
All they've done is vote to debate. They're back to square one and dems still won't help.

>>134904635
This, literally nothing is happening. All the libtards in a fury over this are equally retarded since this doesn't mean shit.

>>134908931
Really? Do you honestly believe that if there was zero regulation in the health care industry, things would be better for everyone? Do you think those with preexisting conditions should lose coverage? I would personally like the society that I live in to have values higher than just unrestrained Darwinism.

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>>134904458
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK MY HEALTHCARE UP SENPAI!!!!

>>134904458
Praise Kek. This is great news Indeed. Public debate will reach the normies via news. We will see the liberal media destroy themselves more. Now we have numbers to stop their "muh sick kids" debate. We can actually use real numbers when they have their shitty fake headlines.

This is great. It is a great place to start. I can't wait to discover how many hundreds of percent this is projected to cost over the next few years.

>>134909563
>for the cheap
t. underage

>>134909402
>This
10 Million fat fucks in a diabetic coma because they can't afford insulin anymore.
Top lek

>>134908824
I am not shilling for Obamacare. But between the two, Republicare is the scam. Its night and day.

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>>134904458
we are all screwed if the supreme court dosent black this

>>134909207
It will crush America that's for sure.
Sometimes I want this shit to pass so that America crashes and burns and all low-IQ monkeys of this country learn, but i guess they wont since its all happened before in other countries but hey "Thats not real socialism/communism"

as a mexican intellectual, what does it mean for my fellow americans? whowill benefit from it?

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>>134904674
://///////////////////// This thread will teach me not to get excited for sure. Thanks op.

>>134909744
short-sightedness leads to lower taxes being a more appealing prospect than security in healthcare coverage

those who vote by darwinism will die by it, drowned in hospital bills.

>>134907700
>Maybe they should get jobs.
>" Liberal whiney-ass bullshit. "Don't take it awaaaaaay." GET A JOB.
From who and at what wage? Maybe the government should outlaw being unemployed then. There are more people than jobs and less total wages than the total costs of healthcare that the unregulated doctors/hospitals demand in their rent-seeking.

>>134907853
The repeal of the ACA and every replacement bill so far scored causes more loss of coverage than repeal-only because of the changes the GOP inserted.

>>134908824
Because they are majority racist whites. Over time their ability to continue voting GOP on cultural grievance will be consumed by their economic deathbed. Remember every last state in the South is dependent on Federal support, especially in Medicaid which is the backbone of most births and nursing homes there which this bill is gonna gut funding of in expansion eligibility and inflation adjustments. Those states are going to go bankrupt because of this.

>>134908223
At least Canada pays less and gets more than you do.

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>>134908587
>"b-but my legacy"

>>134909980
shill

>repealed
drumpfys in charge of reading lel

>>134904878
It says 48 democrats but there are only 46 in the senate

King and Sanders aren't democrats, just democrat-leaning

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does this mean I finally get to use this?

>>134908943
I disagree with that premise, and I think a lot of people do.

But my point stands, if Trump signs something, the richest among us will be very happy about it, and the poorest and most vulnerable will suffer.

If that is the kind of country you want to live in then I guess you will be getting what you want.

>>134904894
So is the DNC. That's a good thing. It's why Trump was elected by the American people

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>>134904458
Suuu-wishhhh!! Pence strikes again!

>We are going to take 800 Billion out of healthcare to give tax breaks to the top 1%
>Much improved.
I can't wait for you retards to start dying off. Fucking jewed at every turn.

>>134904907
Oh you. We don't deserve you at all.

>>134910172
fug I thought it said repealed

>>134910073
No i'm not a fucking shill. OP put "Obongocare repealed" in the title and "Pence broke the tie" in the next line and I assumed it was actually getting repealed. Apparently its just a vote to have a debate ffs

>>134909994
>there are more people than jobs

AND WHOSE FAULT IS THAT, MAYBE IT'S THE PARTY THAT RAISED IMMIGRATION TO 1 MILLION A YEAR IN THE 1990S

>be liberal
>create problem
>offer government as a solution to problem

Fuck you

>>134905548
Kurt Go back to admining your CP website.

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>B B But I cant afford a real insurance
Get a fucking job you leech, no free rides

No one votes yes for debate and then votes no on the bill.

At least not on anything important where their vote matters.
Some do vote no on debate and end up voting yes.
It is a done deal lads. The only question is what will actually be in it.

>>134905130
Reddit cuckservatives are stupid. Who would have guessed

>>134909994
>There are more people than jobs and less total wages than the total costs of healthcare that the unregulated doctors/hospitals demand in their rent-seeking.
There should be more of an incentive to work than to not work at all. Ill be totally honest. I am middle class, have a family and ONLY 1 working person in the household (me). Motherfuckers on welfare have nicer cars and better "things" than I do. I never understood this. I guess its just my white privilege which is why I have a job in the first place. Because I love to spin my wheels in the mud barely putting a few bills into savings. I guess it beats having no retirement other than welfare.....Not that it matters, because COLA increases should make that a pretty good career choice.

>>134905176
Buy health insurance you worthless cunt

Or die
It makes no difference to me

>>134910490
So you're at least 80% sure the ACA is dead?

>>134909955
It will benefit everybody, especially the self-employed working class. The current system is collapsing as more insurance companies withdraw from the program, driving rates even higher. Lazy assholes who don't want to work don't care that the system is collapsing, or that it has broken countless working-class people financially - They just want their free stuff! So they bitch and moan and talk about how Republicans want to kill everybody. To have insurance in this country, you used to have to get a job. Simple. Those who did not work had to see if they were eligible for Medicaid. If they were not, it was up to them to get a job, or go fill up the emergency room with their coughing and their fevers when they got sick. People who work can pay for their insurance or get it through their job as a benefit. Children in low-income families get Medicaid. Old people get Medicaid. Disabled people get Medicaid. Lazy worthless layabouts had nothing until Obamacare. Now what happened? They continued to sit on their asses, not work, and run to the doctor's office for their bloodwork, their diabetes medication, their blood pressure medicine - All of these largely stem from slovenliness. If you sit on your ass all day and not work, then use your EBT card to buy garbage food, you will be fat, you will have high blood pressure, and you will probably develop diabetes. Nobody has ever "been left to die" in America, unless they were truly a useless person with no will to work, at all, and even at that they could go to an emergency room.

>>134904894
>shambles
Despair!

>>134908824
>forgetting Virginia

>>134905529
>penultimate
> Claim minority status
> get busted
> Claim t be transracial, transexual male to female lesbian
> ???
> Profit

>>134910651
not to mention they are going to let insurance be sold across state lines. never understood why this was an issue in the first place. and if they would allow meds to be bought from the leafs, US pharms would have some competition.

>>134908691
You do know that the AARP lost much of its membership over its support for the unaffordable HC act. They still have not fully recovered from it. The reality is that it is coming apart from how it was written, and now Dems want to blame the Repubs for it falling apart. It is not the job of the Repubs to fix the if you want to see what is in it you have to pass it bill. Well what is in it is now in practice, and the Repubs job is to get rid of it. IF they don't, they will get the wrath of the people come next election.

>>134905548
sorry

>>134905645
The wall isn't meant for hiding it's for keeping out shitskins like you. Idiot.

>>134910180
Because demand for healthcare is perfectly inelastic there is nothing that any human or single insurance corporation can do to stop it from growing without limit beyond the ability of anyone to pay for it. Only the very few rich benefit in this system and the ranks of the non-rich will keep growing as medical inflation continues to outstrip wages forever under this status quo. It's why the repeal effort is polling close to the single-digits.

This gulf and the reasons why it exist will make single-payer happen and the GOP are hastening the process by swelling the ranks of the non and underinsured.

>>134910180
>I disagree with that premise, and I think a lot of people do.
Disagree all you want. You're still wrong. No one owns government programs. They are privileges that can be revoked at any time.
>If that is the kind of country you want to live in then I guess you will be getting what you want.
I love how libtards have to resort to this exaggerated hysterical rhetoric because they realize it's absolutely impossible to make a positive argument for Obamacare in its current form

>>134910612
>So you're at least 80% sure the ACA is dead?
I would say that it is going to be a fairly straight forward thing. Publicly red-pill anyone who works AND pays into this. They will contact their lawmakers. The facts about this are horrible at best. The public debate needs to be done to reach real people....unlike how it was instituted.....

This would be a great way to erase Obama from the books. He used all of his political weight to get this to happen, and it is on the chopping block.

This makes me giddy.

>>134906040
Hopefully millions of your imported shitskin voting block dies off

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>>134904458
All they did was have a procedural vote on whether or not to debate the motion to repeal Obamacare.

ACA is still in place, idiot. The fact that they had to get Pence to break a deadlock for a procedural vote is a very bad sign for Republicans.

>>134909994
>>" Liberal whiney-ass bullshit. "Don't take it awaaaaaay." GET A JOB.
>From who and at what wage? Maybe the government should outlaw being unemployed then. There are more people than jobs and less total wages than the total costs of healthcare that the unregulated doctors/hospitals demand in their rent-seeking.

The government does outlaw employment. It's called the minimum wage.

>>>134907853
>The repeal of the ACA and every replacement bill so far scored causes more loss of coverage than repeal-only because of the changes the GOP inserted.

It was fake coverage. It came at the cost of people who work for a living and keep the country moving and design careful plans around that.

>>>134908824
>Because they are majority racist whites. Over time their ability to continue voting GOP on cultural grievance will be consumed by their economic deathbed. Remember every last state in the South is dependent on Federal support, especially in Medicaid which is the backbone of most births and nursing homes there which this bill is gonna gut funding of in expansion eligibility and inflation adjustments. Those states are going to go bankrupt because of this.

Every state in the South will be completely independent as soon as the federal government disappears from its daily life. They will do just fine. Maybe you will go bankrupt but they have enough people who know the value of a dollar that they won't.

>>>134908223
>At least Canada pays less and gets more than you do.

No you don't. Your costs are blended into the general expensiveness of society. You are poor and suffering and don't even realize it. When you really need your healthcare you will not have it because you will be in a long line and at last you will realize that you are part of the population that is not allowed to expand. That's right. You're not special. You have a killswitch too.

>>134909215
Not everyone made a meme folder right away, faggot-kun

>>134910651
We need to separate insurance from employer compensation. Full stop.

>>134904674
sad that that's how far retard dems have gone, hur durh we must stop them from debating the bill

>>134909744
You're not giving an argument

DO YOU REALLY THINK YOU WON'T DIE POOR

Wow just tax me at 50% now senpai

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>>134904458
>being this fucking retarded
Kys

>>134910897
I am not arguing that the ACA is without its flaws. I do believe that the republicans could not care less about poor white rural Americans. I also believe that Trump knows next to nothing about healthcare. I think the last part of your comment is a given at this point, whatever the republicans do, they will have a hard 2018 election.

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>>134904617
That's some dank Pepe man!

>>134910997
I am saying that as bad as the ACA is, whatever monstrosity the Republicans push through will greatly exaggerate it's flaws. Do you have confidence in them to pass a good bill?

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>>134910885
Same. It just seems like common sense. Is there something I don't know? A legitimate reason why people couldn't cross state lines to purchase insurance?

>>134910180
>I guess you will be getting what you want.
Yepper. I have private insurance through my "employeer". There are about 1200 people represented in this pool. I pay less per month for my entire family than most single people pay with obongocare. Oh, and my insurance is considered a "Cadillac plan".

How is this possible? This defies logic. A small group of men pool their resources and procure our own insurance....cheaper than ACA, and in addition we are exempt from paying into the ACA.

It is a failing/failed program. It is dangerous because they could hypothetically change it to FORCE us to purchase their product.

This is not right. It is only through coercion that people pay into it. The threat of a fine (taken directly from your income tax return) is enough to keep people paying ABSURD amounts.

Overweight diabetic america needs to wake up. Just because you are a fat slob does not mean you can't have a job.

I hope they repeal it. Our government has no business is forcing citizens to deal with private industry under coercion.

>>134911092
I the government should have some place in the healthcare industry. Do I really need to argue that point?

>>134911589
Did I ever say I wanted a replacement? Repeal only is fine by me.
>it's

>>134905130
Shills scared that the repeal will happen. Nuclear option is on the table, bitch. Simple majority, faggot.

>>134911716
So what will come of those with preexisting conditions? Do you care?

>>134911707
>Do I really need to argue that point?
Yes.

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>>134911707
>Do I really need to argue that point?
Did you proofread your first sentence?

Yes, Id love for you to argue the point that you missed a comma, and you are the Government.

I just donated $5 to Donald Trump campaign. It feels so good. I love DJT! God bless.

>>134904458
EASY D

>>134911853
>So what will come of those with preexisting conditions? Do you care?
That will be changed through law. That is something that the people do want.

>>134911853
Not really. Shit happens. People get sick. Not my or the government's responsibility to pay for them. Maybe try something besides pathos for a change.

>>134911919
Why are all conservatives so goddamn obnoxious and mean all the time

>>134911677
I can only guess follow the money. I'm sure at some point someone passed the law and got rich off of it.

>>134911707
Yes
You make a claim you need to back it up you colossal faggot
Charlie Gard would tell you government involved in health care suck..but he's dead I think

>>134904624
who voted no to need Pence to show up?

>>134911853
You shouldn't be able to get dropped from your insurance if you get sick. That literally defeats the purpose of insurance. But in the same vein, you shouldn't force companies to insure sick people who didn't buy insurance when they were healthy. That also defeats the purpose of insurance. You idiots don't even understand what insurance is. Maybe you would buy some instead of bitching for the government to pay for everything if you did.

>>134905991
this

they're not actually going to repeal it, they're going to let it fail and strongarm the democrats into voting for a free market healthcare bill that requires 60 votes.

>>134911707
>Because I said so

You fucking dipshit. Your inability to explain things and condescending attitudes like you all know something that others don't is why you won't ever win another election

>>134911853
if you get insurance through a JOB they don't inquire about preexisting conditions. At least not that I know of. My hubby is type 1 diabetic for almost 40 years and this has never been an issue.

>>134908223
They likely don't qualify to immigrate to Canada.

>>134911034
>t. butt hurt newfag

>>134912041
maybe sick of the liberals flooding our country with outsiders that leech of our system and cost us money to the point we can't even take care of ourselves?

>>134911853
not even 0.0000000000000000000000000000001% sooner you fucks die the sooner those states go red

>>134912041
You must be absolutely delusional

>>134912123

american intelect over here

>>134905756
You don't force doctors to work you tard. They can walk away.

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>>134912220
>My hubby is type 1 diabetic
>Type 1
Sure thing burger

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>>134910180
>muh rich vs. poor
you are poor. we are poor. are you buying up the 4 adjacent homes to your island property for 'privacy' reasons? did you trade in your 12 month old jet for a new one to get a tax break? how's the weather out from your superyacht?
do you think these dudes even notice the piddling amount they spend on healthcare? retard. they won't even notice, much less be happy. poor people like us go to the emergency room and just don't pay for it, dumbass. it's all in your local, state, and federal taxation.

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>>134912041
>liberal
>calling anyone else obnoxious

>>134912478
and your point is?

>>134904458
reminder that if done correctly universal healthcare is a weapon against jewry and extortion. any true national socialist supports universal healthcare but understands that obamacare is a pos that funneled more money into hebe wallets. we need a 1488 worthy replacement.

>>134912154
EXACTLY

You can't buy home owners insurance for a house that is already on fire or car insurance for a car you already wrecked

>>134912673
Your husband is a fat fuck with type 2 beetus

>>134912220
quit being fat and put down the soda nigger

>>134909666
No it doesn't, Satan. Involuntary servitude is illegal. In fact making healthcare a right would be an explicit violation of the 13th Amendment

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>>134904907

>>134912818
no, he isn't. diagnosed at the age of 19 and has had to take insulin every since. fat fucks get type 2 later in life and pills and diet treat it. educate yourself faggot

>>134912877
amendments can be changed

>>134912773
Sure but that will never work with a population like we have in America. It might work if you kick out the shitskins, but I honestly doubt it. Either way it will still be much worse quality of care than free market.

>>134904824
Wtf do you care?

>>134912866
not fat, don't drink soda. soda has sugar. diabetes no likey sugar. learn the difference between type 1 and type 2 you dumb cunt

>>134912928
Show your tits wench or gtfo

>>134904458
So does this mean it will actually be repealed? Or does this vote just move to another later vote?

>>134912956
Yeah let's just add the "slavery is illegal for everyone except doctors" clause, should go over very well

>>134905397
Someone should make a (you)coin cryptocurrency

>>134913050
you wouldn't enjoy it since you're a hairy ass licking faggot

>>134912041
>Why are all conservatives so goddamn obnoxious and mean all the time
Its amazing how much fast the liberal left went from being ravenous SJWs to being cry-baby sore losers. Honestly, get back in your crib and nap it off.

>>134905171
>Not repealed, Senate votes to start health care debate

THIS OP IS A FAGGOT

>>134905050

he went to the VA

>>134913317
I am not a SJW, I consider myself more of a centrist than anything. I just cant begin to wrap my head around why you all are so sure that the Republican congress in going to pass something thats good.

BREAKING: Feds picked up Imran Awan as he was trying to leave country

>>134911707
>I the government should have some place in the healthcare industry.
Government is a 3rd party payer. Never a good situation.

The less responsibility we give the government the better for everybody.

When we let the government regulate something those regulations end up being turned against small business to create monopolies.

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>>134911853
Unfortunately that is how insurance works. I'm a preexisting condition and I'm happy to see the ACA being repealed. Tired of being forced to buy healthcare that costs more than my rent.

>>134911397
>Republicans could care less about poor white
You are delusional if you think the Dems care about the poor, or whites. If anything the reason they lost is the whites poor to rich are tired of being demonized.
>Trump knows next to nothing about health care.
And what Obama was an expert? If anything his namesake's legislation proves he knew nothing. In fact it proves he knew nothing about much more that being a community activist.
The percentage of the population without HC insurance did not require a full blown system overhaul, it only needed a few laws revamping maybe Medicaid to allow people to pay for it as insurance, and allowing it across state lines. But the Dems did not like the last, because their med insurer lobbyists did not want full competition. So who really does not care?

>>134913580
sauce

>>134913580
have charged him with multiple counts of bank fraud. https://twitter.com/ChadPergram/status/889943929050845184

>>134904458
It's hilarious seeing all the salt on twitter when nobody on the left even knows what the vote was for.

>>134914338
I'm not sure I can handle this much winning.

>>134914600
>winning

Guess how I can tell the majority of this thread is underage

>>134914338
it begins

>>134914867
Aww sweetie. I'm 37. You just made my day.

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>>134915170
That is a fucking lie anon, I refuse to believe it

>>134908691
You're full of shit.

>>134915317
Just use your SJW training to feel and believe.

>>134915356
How do you think theyll feel when there healthcare is gone? Happy?

>>134915701
They wont feel a thing because they are 5% of the population

>>134908691
Obama screwed the poor in the south out of the ACA by letting the states opt out if they chose. Obama sacrificed the most vulnerable Americans to secure his legacy. I was living in Mississippi when this shit went down. Oh and don't forget Mississippi only has one Abortion clinic in Jackson. That is where mostly poor black people live.

>>134908691
I'm a southerner too. My family is paying over $10k a year in health insurance since obamacare came out and we are on the verge of losing our house because of it

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HOLY
FUCKING SHIT
>>134916814


IMRAN AWAN ARRESTED ATTEMPTING TO FLEE THE COUNTRY

>>134904458
Two Republicans voted against it. Guess the gender

>>134909666
Hippocratic oath says 2 things:
1) You don't perform abortions
2) You don't leak the secrets of the medical trade