>I am worth more than $5 per hour

>>134871392

Location, location, location.

If the micky ds is in a well populated area and gets more visitors, a higher skilled and higher paid employee might result in increased profits overall for the business through increased efficiency.

Using the government to force high wages? No thanks.

Doesn't mean all fast food workers are inherently worth less than $5 an hour though

>>134871392
Yeah, great, now give me my order, I'm hungry.
Gender studies you said?

>>134871392
>ask for snack wrap no cheese or lettuce
>get snack wrap with sticker
>only cheese

I dont go to mcd much but when i do they always fuck up the wraps.
Do they really deserve more money when they cant read an order right?

>>134871392
Let's be realistic: when was the last time you saw a white person working at a fast food place?

>>134871582
t. burger flipper

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>>134871392
>KIOSKD.COM

>>134871392
As a white man you are. The value of your labor is at least 30$ per hour, but because liberals rob working white people and redistribute it to subhumans you are making less than what you deserve.

>>134871639

t. never learned econ

>>134871839
>you should earn 3 times as much when you are white
Man I miss the /pol/ where you could have a discussion about economics without random stormfags shitposting all the time

>>134871392

not even your whore mother is worth that much to somali migrants hans, you're right that is A LOT of money.

>>134871392
If you believe you are worth more than 5 dollars an hour, what are you doing about it? Are you incapable of selfimprovement or is it down to McDonald's to decide your destiny?

>>134871639
t. non-argument

>>134871582
Divorce divorce divorce

You just got DIVORCED MATE AHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAUAUHAHAUAUGAHAHAHAHJAJAKAKALALLA

>>134871975
6times as much
>Man I miss the /pol/ where you could have a discussion about economics without random stormfags shitposting all the time
Stormfront is half right, but when SF starts talking about the economics of the white revolution they are as bad as all liberals.

>>134871612
Kek

>>134872187

I have never been married.

>>134871639
Are you retarded?

The problem is inflation. That $5 can't buy what it once could.

>>134872504
>That $5 can't buy what it once could.


You're just entitled, and don't understand economics.

>>134871392
Why?

>>134872192
because natsoc has soc in it and soc succs big time

>>134871392

The people who fight minimum wage on /pol/ probably don't even have a job.

It's funny how you guys always fight against your own interests, ubi coming soon fuckers.

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>>134871392
First of all what even is a dollar? Do you even know?
No, you're a child screaming at talismans in the wind in a desperate plea for sustenance,
All because you are unable to take care of yourself, which is really society at large and your parents in particulars fault

Get angry correctly or get dead, I don't care which

>>134871632
in the white parts of the country, all the time.

>>134871392
no your'e not
George Foreman grill is $20 and makes all the burgers I want

>>134872673
>because natsoc has soc in it and soc succs big time
NatSocialism would've won WW2 if Hitler had been willing to make the war effort more collectivist from the beginning. Aka total war.

The women who got raped in Cologne got raped because Hitler lost the war. Hitler would've won the war if he declared total war and full mobilization from the beginning.

I'm not a Nazi because contemporary Nazis are too liberal.

>>134871392
You may be but the job you're asked to do is not.

>>134871392
These people are completely not needed.
100% will be replaced by kiosks in 2 years.
If you think owners of fast food joints are not actively pursuing this, think again.
> No scheduling
> No muh 15 dollarz
> No employee drama
> No HR
> No drugs
> No ppl not showing up
> No workers comp insurance
Fuck. Should I continue?

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>>134871392
>two thin strips of shit tier mince,plastic cheese and a bunch of condiments to make it taste good is worth four dollars and seventy nine cents.

>NOT TO MENTION THAT IT WILL LEAD TO TYPE 2 DIABETES,HEART ATTACK,HYPERTENSION AND KIDNEY FAILURE IN EXCESS.

instead buy big freezer bags of 20/30 fat ground beef for maybe $4 a bag.

swiss cheese or provalone.

diced onion,tomato,lettuce

bread or burger buns

tartare sauce,vlasic pickles and ketchup for condiments.

assemble how you want.

get a big ass freezer bag of french fries and maybe a few 2l of soda.

congratulations, you never have to set foot inside that shithole called mcdonalds again, and the assembled meal costs $2 max.

lettuce provalone

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>>134874032
if some lazy fat jewish amerifat slob thinks people will put with this shit they are sorely mistaken.

the only good thing about mcdonalds is that it is fast and somewhat edible.

i can't care about mcdonalds or any company doing this anymore and will not give them my money or time and i suggest you do so too.

>>134871392
blue shirt and tie = floor manager

They start around 22K and could end up as an area manager making 10x that

>>134872614
ewww


kike shills are getting lazy

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>>134871392
>>134871392
No you're not. You just think you are because you're a beta leach

>>134871632

Serious question. Do you guys have those Smash Burger places? The ones that have the same font for their signs as GameStop?

Always black people working there. No whites, no asians, no hispanics. No one but blacks.

>>134871694
Kiosks dont work though.
Look at Walmart. You get 5 families bumbling around for 30 minutes to check out with the tender always coming over and correcting errors.
It works with some convenience stores but there purpose isn't to increase profits like McDonald's would be.

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>>134877784
>self checkout
>the same as ordering kiosk
no. that family you described tries to steal inventory from the store by entering wrong quantities or just outright trying to shoplift.
a ordering kiosk is just that. it takes orders from the user and sends it to the burger flipper

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>>134875688

>this fucking post

lettuce provalone/10

>>134878414
Self checkout is bad in its current state. They assumed everyone would be honest but they weren't and the problem only got worse when the equipment got damaged or the price wasn't entered correctly. They tried to fix the theft by adding a scale to the bagging area but it's unrealistic to recalibrate a scale several times a day. Then they added cameras to the kiosks..maybe it cut down on theft a little but the cost of maintenance and upgrades has got to be high. Meanwhile people just walk out of the store with a tv in their cart.

>>134876022

>282 Minutes for Mexico

They're always the shittiest at everything, aren't they?

>>134875688
wat

>>134874032
Do you retards ever think that robots will actually take over all the food jobs? That's fucking ridiculous, not only will the cost to retrofit would be insane, overall the cost to oay each cunt $7.25 would cost way less than building these fuckin thing s( and the ones that already work fuck up just as much as people) then you'd have to pay people to fix them, and pay people to watch the store so the place isn't constantly robbed/vandalised, keep fuckin roleplaying,never gonna happen anywhere near our lifetime

Yes you are. However the job you have, due to the decisions you have made, is not.

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>>134871392
Then go do a job that pays more than $5 per hour.

>>134882008

>Do you retards ever think that robots will actually take over all the food jobs?

red states are turning blue because of hispanics and demanding healthcare and a Living Wage for their employees

do the math

>>134871392
Great Thumbnail

>>134879121

Nah self checkout in most cases is sort of forced on people because they reduce cashiers and baggers making the line for someone else to do it really long.

Meanwhile the self checkout line is full of retards trying to figure out how to scan their dragonfruit and cant figure out the code to enter because theres no barcode on it. Then you have the guy who takes booze through the line and needs to wait on the one self checkout attendant to hit OK after checking his id...the self checkout is now a huge line as is the one cashier line.

I just want to throw what i want into my cart, then get the fuck out of the store, i dont care how its done i just want to minimize my time wasted in a grocery store. I prefer to have someone else ring my stuff up and bag it for me because they do it all day and its quicker than having to deal with a self checkout line that i have to place all my weeks worth of groceries on one weighplate with room for one bag or the machine thinks im stealing because i had to put my bagged groceries i already scanned into my cart due to lack of room.


Self checkout is great when i have one or two items, when i have my weeks shopping trip in a cart it becomes slower than the cashier line. Both scenarios i hate. Sadly when amazon gets their order online and pick up service up and running ill go there for eternity as thats the best way to keep me out of a shit store and minimize my day off time wasted on shit i hate doing.

I really dont care about loss of employment due to this, i already pay though taxes for the cashiers tax credit apartment and welfare if he/she has kids because even on $15/hr they dont make enough to live a normal self sustained life in today's society unfortunately.

>>134871632
Usually the elderly.

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>>134872504
What?
of course it can

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Who will repair your machines?

How much will that cost?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xr9s6-tuppI

>>134883791

machines cost less to repair than humans (healthcare is ~20% of GDP)

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>>134871392
>tfw i used to go out with my friend to these places but now he left me so I go alone when its empty beacuse seeing youngsters having fun makes me incredibly deppressed.
>now that i browse /pol/ i wont go there as the profit goes to the jews but still wish someone would ask me out

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>>134872504

funny, at in n out I made $13 an hour back in college

>>134871392
Can't wait to order through vending machines.
At least they won't fuck my order, plus I don't have to talk to some sheboon behind the counter speaking ebonics

>>134883791
Paying an maintenance guy to do a circuit around all the McDonalds in a certain radius to maintain the machines is cheaper than paying the cashiers they replace $15/hr.

>>134871392

i worked at fast foods and it taught me a shit tonne about productivity and managing multiple tasks. Dont know why you guys larp on fast food employees or essentially kids but always go on a tirade about the illustrious jobs of being an is somehow different. Im currently in my first year of internship as a mechanical engineer and dont feel nearly as much stress and worry as rush hour or 12 hr shifts. Really makes me think if you guy did some cushy retail position before moving onto your career (hopefully you did move on)

>>134871392

"Worth"

Why do people who espouse economic right-wing values babble on about this. It's literally not how capitalism works. There is no morality, there is only personal profit.

you're worth whatever you agree to get paid.

>>134871392
>am worth more than $5 per hour
According to whom?

>>134884721
Of course they did, most of these nazi larping retards have never done any sort of physical/shitty/dirty work. Most of them are neets role playing as aryan supermen that ride the tiger all day.

>>134871392
Why exactly does /pol/ hate the working poor so much? At least they're working, they're trying the best they can to contribute to society unlike welfare leaches and such.

But you think they should starve to death because they work a shit job.

>>134871392
You goys still eating Mc Donald's? we told you what was in that shit a decade ago.

>>134871632
Everytime I go to eat fast food.

>>134871582
>Location, location, location.
I can get behind this, there's a huge difference in the demand for burger flippers at the McDonald's in the average neighborhood vs a McD's in time's square. Most of them are still only worth about $5 an hour though and it's possible that the larger labor pool in those areas would just drive the wage back down to $5 an hour anyway.

>>134888010
Have fun paying rent near Times Square off a McWage you fucking dumbass.

>>134871392
> gets replaced by kiosk
> current worth = 0$/h

>>134872969
>Hitler would've won the war if he declared total war and full mobilization from the beginning.

Hitler was too much of a feminist for that, he didn't want women to work or mobilized in the war economy because feminism

>>134871392
Well, he is; he's created more value than that. Yes he isn't entitled to nearly all of it, but as someone who has managed decent resturants and pubs, and won awards for kitchens across the UK, and even set up a now well run resturant in south africa; the owner's skim off far more than they are worth, and in a business like McDonalds where the capital risk is low if it isn't run b spastics; there is nearly no justification for paying your workers so little.

These underpaid workers are then turning to welfare and state support. The government and taxpayer is now left with the burden of propping up a business owner who wants to scalp a few extra dollars in the top.

>>134875688
nigger thats 40 bucks worth of food with half of it thrown out after a couple days, not counting freezerburned frozen garbage

>>134871392
well he would be if the country wasn't overpopulated with immigrants

>>134875688

How fat are you who the fuck buys multiple 2 liter bottles of soda at once and yet you complain about type 2 diabetes and hear attack risks from food you dumbass american

>>134871632
I live in a rich area and the McDonalds in my town is 100% White staffed. Its like a fucking Michelin star restaurant compared to the ones staffed by minorities.

>>134871392
>He is not worth more than $5 per hour
Except he is, you dumb fucking faggot. Do you really think all those niggers would be working for those slavery tier wages if welfare didn't exist? The real welfare queens are the places that pay barely above minimum wage, they simply cannot exist without taxpayers picking up the slack.

>>134893198
If he's such a good chef he should open his own restaurant and reap the profits instead of being a fry cook at McDicks. It's not the government's job to hold your hand through the capitalism process.

>>134875688
You're paying for someone else to assemble it for you. Big mac meal costs about $6. You're saying you can make it for $2. Considering the time to fetch the food items and cook it, you're spending at least 30 minutes of your time on that meal. Difference in cost is $4, or $8/hr.

Is your time worth more than $8/hr anon?

>>134871632

McD corporate here, a majority of employees under employment at McDonalds restaurants are whites.
>>134871694
Kiosks have shown to increase sales and productivity of the restaurant. This not only allows more orders to be taken at a single time but it also allows more staff to be hired and shifted around.

Restaurant sales have increased because of this change.
>>134874032
see above
AMA

>>134871632
In a town outside of a city it's common. I'm white and worked at a McDonald's in Pennsylvania for a year and was paid $8.75. It was my first job and now I have experience to get a better job.

>>134894359
Wage compression means a lot of his generation could never hope to open a resturant. Your point is my point exactly. These people are not worth $10 an hour but they are worth more than 5. The state is holding the business owners hand through calatilism, subsidizing his underpayment and lining his pocket.

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>>134871392
No you're not. This an entry-level job for students and women... why are you still working there, Hans? You could be Filialleiter at Edeka.

>>134871392
>german minimum wage is 1498 euros a month

>>134871632
Someting around always, every single time

>>134871392
But McDonalds employees earn 10€ an hour which is more than enough for uneducated niggers who barely speak my language desu.

Every worker is worth at least as much as it takes to sustain himself. If a job won't cover the bills, there's no point in taking it, unless someone else is covering the difference, like parents or the state. If the minimum wage were higher, our welfare spending would be a hell of a lot lower.

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>>134871392

>>134871392
Well you are if you learn new skills OP, but if you want to make a career of picking up burgers from a shelf, I am afraid that you are not even worth £5. And by making business raise your salary you are forcing them to either invest in cost effective equipment (self ordering machines) or rise the prices of their products. Learn new skills OP quit being an absolute faggot.

>>134894869
>Kiosks have shown to increase sales and productivity of the restaurant.
If that's true, then those kiosks will eventually replace some or all of the cashiers anyway, regardless of what the minimum wage is. You can't beat (asymptotically) free. So we might as well go full out $15/hr and make the best of things for those who can't be replaced, and the ones who are can be retrained.

>>134896258
As I had said, people are shifted around, such as more people can be put bagging orders and the customer experience is faster.

Now of course, people will ALWAYS want some sort of people interaction so people will still always be cashiers. They will never be replaced even if O/O's want them to be.

>>134871392
Yeah, legally speaking you're at least worth $7.25 an hour.

BUT JORDAN /b/ PETERSON SAID MY TIME IS WORTH FIFTY BUCKS PER HOUR REEEEEEE

>>134894599
Have we also considered that by keeping the wages of fast food workers low with welfare and an unadjusted minimum wage, that we're also making the price of fast food artificially low? If fry cooks got $10-$15/hour, the cost of fast food would go up, and it would no longer be this stupidly cheap thing. That would force/encourage more people to make their meals at home instead of habitually eating this fat-soaked crap every day. It's well-known that home-cooked food tends to be much healthier than fast food, so raising the minimum wage would combat obesity and diabetes.

It's all interconnected Anons. Consider that.

>>134896553
>O/O's
I must be out of the loop, is this a new bit of polspeak for Jews?

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>>134895599
I fear for you, Bolan. You're very close to Germoney

>>134897194
Owner/Operators

>>134896258
are fewer high(er) paying jobs better than more low paying jobs (e.g. 10 $15/h jobs vs 20 $8/h jobs)
you realise that you'd either reduce hours by half or cut the number of employees by half in a situation like that
i say its better to have more lower paying jobs so that people dont just sit around at home waiting for nothing to happen and demanding welfare
see what is up with sweden, a shit job like this will net you only maybe $1000 a year more than living off of the welfare you are entitled to when unemployed

>>134897318
>i say its better to have more lower paying jobs so that people dont just sit around at home waiting for nothing to happen and demanding welfare
In a socialist society, you'd be right. We'd want to split the work that has to be done among as many people as possible so each of them is obligated to the minimum amount of work. But under capitalism, work is money, and money is survival. The (((ruling class))) only wishes to divide the work to keep as many people as possible at least minimally occupied instead of stealing to keep themselves fed, or worse, formenting revolution.

Right now, we could be spending money on putting the unemployed in college classes, but of course that will never fly. Can't have the people be too smart now, can (((they)))?

>>134871392
>immediately gets replaced by a robot

>>134897982
Being smart is genetic. College classes just squander inborn intelligence.

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>>134871392
Only Robert is

>>134897239
No sane rapefugees will immigrate here, gibs in Germany for a muslim often exceed average pay in Poland. All we can get is some Hanses and Britas.

>>134897982
you dont get it
in capitalism, more jobs are preferable
in socialism, higher paying jobs are preferable
you have a fucking commie flag, get a grip on your own ideology

in socialism if you dont have a job, or have a low paying job, you are entitled to welfare
in a capitalistic system you are not, therefore you need employment. thus more low paying jobs are preferable

>>134898216
If you throw enough education at someone, you can get even the dumbest hick to become proficent at brain surgery. Might take 50+ years to do it, but you'll get there eventually. That's how the Chinese do it.

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>>134898536
We're talking about social preferability, not individual preferability.

Also, pay eventually becomes irrelevant under socialism. All that matters is the work that must be done, and who's gonna do it. He who does not get with thy program, neither shall he eat.

>>134871392
>I am worth more than $5 per hour
No, frankly. You are not worth even that much.

>>134877784
You'd probably also have niggers breaking them and causing damage to the machines as well..

>>134898881
>Also, pay eventually becomes irrelevant under socialism.
no, you're projecting your filthy communistic ideals onto socialism
socialism doesnt naturally evolve into communism

>>134871392
>>I am worth more than $5 per hour
Then prove it by getting a real job...

>>134871392
no, you're actually not.

saged

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Says who? If you have no skills other than talking to a person and smashing some buttons on a screen you're really only worth $2.75/hour
I make ~$33.00/hour as an industrial electrical and instrumentation tech in the south east portion of the USA. Get a job where you're not paid for what you do get paid for what you know.

>>134871632
All the time. Its where the literal crack whores go after they finish rehab and/or birf Jamals baby until they ease back into their real calling, which being a literal crack whore. Compare backpage escorts to your local McDs

>>134890303
Why are you this retarded? I don't see why you couldn't commute from far away; I commute 6 hours a day.

>food costs $11.60
>Give a $20 and a toonie
>Wait for 5 minutes as the retard tries to do the math
>Get back $8.40
>"Hey I should get a $10 back since I gave you that toonie"
>Wait another 3 minutes as they confirm the math

Yeah they really deserve more

I make $43.17/hr($146,800/Yr) at base salary, but that drops down to $37.28/hr ($220,000/Yr) when I include my Total Pay, TRIOTR(Triple Overtime Rate), Pay Bonuses, Special Pays - Special Task Force Executive Officer Pay, OM(Operational Member) and Troop Executive Officer Pay on two other Task Forces, OM on the State SWAT Team and TEO of the State Counter-Terrorism Team, Hazard Pays, Rank Pay(Which is available only for Lieutenants and up with the Ground Units, Warrant Officers with the Aviation Unit and Ensigns and up with the Littoral (Coastal) Patrol Unit, Riverine Patrol Unit and Lakes Patrol Units) and Troop Executive Officer Pay Bonus($30,000/Year at my Rank[Major]). the Execute Officer and Director of the Highway Patrol, holding the rank of Colonel makes a $96,000/Yr with Rank Bonus Pay. It is pure Politicking for budgets, equipment and the necessary long gun requirements above being a Lieutenant and dealing with the bullshit and fuck ups of your lower ranks.

I am just glorified babysitter that has to politic with the State Assembly Senate, Lieutenant Governor's Office, and Governor's Office to get anything done.

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Self checkout kiosks are a fucking absolute joke. I found 2 exploits in safeways a few years ago and have paid under 200$ for max groceries for the entire 3 years or so. I'm sure McDonald's will be the same however I don't willingly eat shit so there's that

>>134884073
Ask someone out yourself?

>>134901063
Forgot to add, I work 5,900 to 6,200 hours per annum. My Base Salary is calibrated at 3,400 hours per annum, without accounting for overtime and bonus pays, which is a pain in the ass, when I do my State and Federal Income Taxes. I can be penalized up to $2,400 if I am off by even 10 cents.

>>134901103
Let's trade secrets.

One techniue I like to do is to to go to the foods that let you get a brown paper bag (so some bread rolls which are 33 cents each). I put expensive stuff in the bag and than one or two of the bread rolls ontop. Than I ring it up as half a dozen rolls.

Another thing is to avoid using the scale.

If you ever use the front check out you can bring a jacket into the store. After walking around just toss your jacket in the cart over some high priced item. Do it in a way so it isn't taking up a lot of surface area. 90% of the time if you go to the front check out they will just let you walk out with whatever you covered. This useful for things besides groceries.

>>134871392
federal minimum wage is like $7.25. state level minimum wages can be higher but not lower

california passed a law saying minors can be payed less than that in some lines of work. minors cant even have any job just some jobs legally

>>134898881
>controlled by the workers

The workers: a small group of people being catapulted into the elite to stay there and run this country to shit because they don't care about their own country anymore, are corrupt af and dunno shit about economics but hey it's better than when capitalists did it

>>134871632
im white and i work at subway
im one of 2 whites, the rest are black chicks
our only problem is the franchise manager who is a asshat and forgets to order supplies and food for us sometimes

>>134872159
This, only whiney little bitches cry about how they are worth more than they're paid... obviously not.

>>134871632
The staff at my local Taco Bell is almost entirely white. I'm in a predominantly black area too.

>>134871639
Fucking retard.

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>>134898881
really fucking funny mate