Why do I have to wage cuck ?

>>134866442
To live with some self-respect.
Hard to be a leach and have that without mental disorder or nigger mentality.

>better future job prospects
>muh career

>>134866611
Okay, so why does self respect have to come from capital? Are you suggesting that the work is the important thing or the money?

If it's work, could you not get that same self respect from volunteering or dedicating time to a productive project or something?

>>134866442
Socialists are retarded. They're dumber than children when it comes to economics.

"Why can't we all just follow our passions instead of working for wages?"
Because we would all starve
"But once we have automation, the robots will provide everything"
Bullshit. There's always been automation, yet we still face the threat of starvation. Besides, who's going to pay for these robots without any wages?

Socialists have a perfect world view, as long as there's a capitalist to fund it.

>>134866611
>yay i worked all my life helping build the pyramid's for minimum wage, I have lots of self respect now.

>>134866442
Be a fucking loser. Just kill yourself before your first NEETbux check arrives.

>>134867385
>Yay I lay in bed all day everyday, now I have bed sores and no ambition. But at least I'm not working for the man.

>>134867466
Not the same anon but I am a NEET. I spend most of my time volunteering or running errands, I wish I had time to develop bed sores.

>>134867385
A lazy bong. Color me surprised.

>>134866611
wageslave here, fuck off

There is nothing respectable about 95 % of jobs nowadays, you do them because you get paid.

>MUH HONOR AND RESPECT

Are you seriously equating military service (not the americuck one) and self-sacrifice with sitting in an office for 8 hours a day?

I was a NEET for 2 years and it was the best time of my life.

>>134867266
>Are you suggesting that the work is the important thing or the money?

the work obviously, being useful to society is the thing that matter.
money is a rather recent concept, people used to work before that, for social gratification and being respected as a person.

>>134867773
>sitting in an office for 8 hours a day?

I wish I could get that kind of work. Where I live the only jobs are 0-hour contracts in retail. It's 'sit at home until the manager phones you to stand in front of a till for 4 hours', then back to sitting at home. That's not something which gave me any self-respect or meaning to my life, it was just a way to not starve.

>>134867843
So as I said, you think doing something is important rather than wage-slavery? What about volunteering or artistry or achievements in sport?

You're confusing a job and doing something with your life. Self worth is more than a career.

>>134867895
That sucks lad

Tbh I got very lucky considering I live on the East German countryside.

Payment is slighty below average but it's comfy af.

I hope you enjoy NEETdom or find a comfy job.

>>134867773
>MUH HONOR AND RESPECT

yeah, problem in our societies is that we're brainwashed to think everybody deserve respect for nothing

trans people calling to be respected just because they are trans
black people calling to be respected just because they are blacks
etc. etc.

Respect should be deserved, not granted.

>>134868111
Glad things are looking good for you anon.

I'm lucky in that I don't have to pay rent I live in a house owned by my wifes family. It means we can live off very little, so I do a paper round and the odd bit of digital design work at home to pay the bills and eat. Might sound like a weird way to get by but it's a million times less depressing than the alternatives around here. It's like half-NEET mode and it's pretty comfy to be honest.

NEETs are retards

at least niggers still respect the hand that feeds them (democrats)

>>134868177
>Respect should be deserved, not granted.

Yup, that's why only people who do meaningful, challenging work that is actually dangerous or extremely important deserve respect.

Some IT-sperg or average engineer does not deserve respect.

Also I don't respect trannies or blacks.

>>134868317
Being comfy matters the most desu

Life's too short to wagecuck your best years away.

Wish I could go full-NEET because then I could sleep longer, but eh...

>>134866442
You must chuck wage because if a wage chuck does not chuck wage then wage do not get chuck

>>134868067
In our very leftist societies (compared to what we used to have centuries ago), there are a lot of "subventions" for people doing art, doing sport or doing work in an association and therefore if you're kinda good and/or kinda efficient in what you do you earn something most of the time.

So the "I'm a NEET but I volunteer" sounds unconvincing.

>>134868559
I disagree with you, every work deserve respect imo. At least in the private sector. They are a lot of fake workers in the public sector.

IT guys are usefull, they get paid because of it.

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>>134866442
You don't have you could go full terrorist mode and bring down the Government,
that makes working essentially mandatory the unlawful legal practices such as your inability to homestead(outside of a region in Alaska) and making home ownership essentially renting through property tax
But you don't want to go through all that effort, to essentially break civilization and live very hard to live off the land, so you go to work

>>134868722
So then it is about money? You said it wasn't.

>>134867466
>getting paid for nothing is a bad thing
I'm not going to be part of this shit, so give me my stipend and let me get fat and die at 30-40

>>134871305
Unless you work for the government(which makes it more questionable) getting money for work means you actually added value to society.

>>134867752
How do you afford a home, food, clothing, etc?

serious question.

>>134867385
>i didnt contribute to any kind of growth or improvement at all and sat idle for the short bit of time i got to be alive

>>134871805
But he said that it was about self respect, not value to society. Also the money there is sulfurous, the added value to society came from your labor. Would it have been valueless work if no money changed hands?

>>134871915
>How do you afford a home, food, clothing, etc?
see
>>134868317

I'll admit I have a good situation and most people couldn't live as I do without a full time job.

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>>134866442
Just get into independant contracting. You make whatever you work hard enough and you can evade the taxable jew through business deductions.

>>134872049
I'm trying to improve society all the time. its like pissing against the wind.


why would I contribute to a society that broken ,selfish self serving, the whole globalization system is corrupt.
>>134872049

any kind of REAL growth or improvement is kept down by rules and regulations.

see growing your own food. etc

>>134872101
this.


MONEY IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL.


Why would I work to further the agenda of evil ?

>I didn't contribute to helping evil grow and improve all over the planet, I sat and spectated as gigantic plebs worked as slaves there whole lives.

>>134872049
please can you give examples of the growth and improvement you speak of.?

>>134872101
>But he said that it was about self respect, not value to society
You get self-respect from adding value from society. If you don't add value to society you are essentially a useless leech who lives only because the government forces other people to provide for him.

>Would it have been valueless work if no money changed hands?
Most likely yes but not neccesarily. A wage is an indicator of how much value u added to society because that is how much other people value your labor. If no money changes hands it means that it's unlikely u actually provided anything.

Problem with your argument is that it's the typical marxist line of work being just a simply set of hours you are doing some stuff, whether you're a guy that moves around boxes or a doctor. The free market provides the most objective way of quantifying the value you add to society.

>>134873099
Define "Evil"

>>134873595
>Most likely yes but not necessarily

Two people go out to work and do the exact same job, lets say heart surgery for arguments sake. One gets paid, one doesn't. Does that mean one mans work held no value, but the other's did?

I understand a wage indicates perceived value to society, but that doesn't suggest the value comes from the fact they get paid as you and the other anon have suggested. Valuable work is valuable work, whether done for passion or voluntary contribution or payment.

>The free market provides the most objective way of quantifying the value you add to society.

Evidently not, as you're unable to tell me the value of work done without payment.

Thanks for throwing in the idea I might be a Marxist. I believe in the free market, just not wage cuckery for the sake of wage cuckery. It undervalues some important jobs and overvalues others, like nursing compared to telesales.

>>134873595

>define "evil"

extremely unpleasant.

>>134871480
Youre pathetic.

>>134866442
Because you're too stupid to be independant.

>>134874253
>be independent
>get invaded
>get cuked by invaders
>im free work for growth and improvement.