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How bad is the heroin epidemic?

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Is it really spreading to the middle class suburbs?
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>>134863173
all the white trash is chasing the dragon along the central coast
and about all the homeless
805 CA

>just smoke it yo
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>>134863173

Selfie stick level
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>>134863173
its mostly affecting sand niggers and race traitors here
i mean like 15% of afghans are addicted to opium
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Is it purely an American problem?
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>>134863173
Who heats up soup that way?
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>>134863495
Your'e telling me middle aged moms and dads are just like "fuck I think I'll smoke heroin today"?
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>>134863173
yeah i live in a rather wealthy area and it's getting worse... people are putting fentanyl in it too now which is causing people to die.. fent is 50x stronger than heroin
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>>134863611
also it's much cheaper... think i heard 12k for a kilo which i heard on some doc it is a million hits i think for something that strong and $20 per pill for the seller once they press it and sell it.. get rich or die trying
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>>134863599
Do you think they don't?
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>>134863611
People are putting fentanyl in the cocaine, here in Wisconsin. Ive never understood why a dealer would want to cut off a steady flow of cash by tainting drugs.
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looking for a hit, central ohio.
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>>134863780
I'd like to think that people in the middle class and have kids are responsible enough not to do that shit
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>>134863588
Yes, pikeys can't afford it.
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Mum and dad can't get oxycontin all you can eat scripts on obamacare
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>>134863894
Up the dosage a bit more so you can die before reproducing. Knowing how you junkies fuck though, you already have a child, don't you?
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>>134863173
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>>134863941
I'd like to think Tay Tay thinks of me when she rubs one out.
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>>134863780
Degeneration. Pure degeneration
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>>134863941
Yeah, I like to think that too. I've just seen a couple documentaries and they all show people that had normal lives and then got on ((oxy)) and from there all the way down to heroin. I guess if you are middle class you can keep bullshitting doctors or getting it in the black market, but if you are poor you go straight to h because of price .
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>>134863808
>tainting
It's making they shit BOMB, yo, gets you highER as fuckER!
They're not trying to kill their customers. Anymore than they were by peddling dope in the first place, anyways.
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>>134864088
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>>134863173
Lol heroin is so oldschool compared to shoting up on bathsalts. But yeah, drugs are easier to come by these days so more start using them.
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>>134863173
yep
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>$500.000.000 in military aid to Colombia, annually
>$1.6billion in military aid to Mexico
>1.000.000 incarcerations in the United States every year
>$46billion spent every year on incarceration and law enforcement against drugs

So how's that war on drugs working out?
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>>134863173
>heroin epidemic?

I'm calling bullshit on this. The news is just pushing this to rake in a few extra shekels.
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Here in Salt Lake City, I see junkies casually shooting up in broad daylight, fully in public view.

Cops do nothing.
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>>134864340
>Lol heroin is so oldschool compared to shoting up on bathsalts
You fucking retard. The entire point of using H is for the opiate rush. "Bathsalts" have fuck all to do with opiates. Don't try to sound clever when you don't know a fucking thing about subject in question.
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>>134863808
bcause drug dealing is not a steady job. you dont want to get comfortable in that buisness, you want to gather some capital and move on from black zone to gray zone asap.
unless you get addicted on your own stuff, or want to be the next escobar.
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Oh shit, just remembered this from long ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b25aL7bL11M
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>>134863941
Not really. Opiates fuck up your values i.e. after a while what feels good or bad is totally skewed. You have to remember how common surgeries, chronic pain and depression are too. Of course the older a person is, the less likely they are to use heroin. It's the teens and young adults who get their hands on all the loose pills and then have no problem moving on to heroin.
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>>134864080
heres your (you)
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>>134863173

I just kicked a heroin (snorting, not shooting) habit about 2 months ago. I was from an upper middle class white family. It's fucking everywhere.
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This is now a Duterte thread.
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What does it feel like to be on heroin? Should I take some for my chronic back pain?
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>>134866805
It feels so good you never want to be off it, but you need more each time to feel good and you feel progressively worse when you're off it. You run out of money so you steal from your family a dozen times until they work up the nerve to call the cops, at which point you go to prison and detox there, possibly dying screaming because heroin withdrawal can kill you.
No, you shouldn't.
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>>134865263
answer the question
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I literally just had someone steal my painkillers this weekend after my roommates birthday party...
I just had an appendectomy and I'm still in pain. People suck.
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dropping some redpills on the heroin epidemic
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>>134866977
>Heroin withdrawal can kill you
No it can't. You might feel like you will die, but you wont. Benzo and alcohol are the only two drug withdrawals that can kill you.
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>>134867448
Except all the fent currently in the street heroin is produced in Chinese labs.
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>>134865263
you have no grounds to stand on sub human trash, get your life together
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>>134863588
Canada has got it too (basically America anyway). Mexico has a lead poisoning epidemic.
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>>134863173
Oi bruv im fackin addicted to heroin
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Assuming this is actually killing people this might actually be a good thing. Only degenerates would buy this shit in the first place, them being dead can only be a gain for society.
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>>134868004
You'd be surprised.
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>>134866530
I bet he's killed loads of people who were neither on drugs or selling them but just in the wrong place at the wrong time.
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>>134866989
yeah i had a kid but he died after being born because of withdraw
>>134867581
i just made up the last thing i said, im actually a millionaire. prove me wrong. >protip: you cant.
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>>134863173
its already in the suburbs
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Middle class families are getting hooked on pain pills, and then once those destory their finances they switch to heroin which is cheaper.

Big pharma is to blame. Doctors are paid to push these highly addictive pills on patients.
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>>134868004
Most people on heroin were just normal people who had an injury and were prescribed opiate painkillers. Then the doctors just suddenly took away their painkiller medication and so the same people dependent on painkilling opiates to go through with their day and now physically addicted, hit the streets to continue medicating with opiates, such as heroin.
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>>134868547
Lethal doses of heronin and fent, so you see why so many people are dying from dealers sneaking fent into their drugs.
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My town had woman overdose in the park on 4th of july in front of her kids and a bunch of other families needle still hanging out of her arm, also one was found dead under one of the picnic tables back in spring. This place was nice till the drugs started funneling in from the 2 bigger cities around us.

>>134868269
>this
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>>134868396
Ths happened to my best friend when we were about 22. He hurt his back badly at work. Was prescribed 80mg oxy contin which helped him but within a few weeks he was hooked. Took about 3-4 years before he stated fuckign up at work. Sold his truck for a cheaper car. Then slowly devolved into a bum in the streets. Have seen him once in a while and now hes a total fentanyl addict, hopeless. Eveyone who sees him notices how a once proud man is now grey skinned, covered in a film of filth, and stinks to high heaven. He has sowly devolved into an actual bum in the streets and speaks of his own death as if its unavibale and imminenent. Abot a half dozen people from hy high school calss are alredy dead due to opiates.
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The first person I've know who did heroin was my mother. She was on it before I was born and I'm fortunate enough for her to have stopped using it during her pregnancy with me. It caused a lot of trouble for my father and I during my younger years, but she eventually was able to go sober. She had to move in with family in another state to beat it. She was in rehab and stuff when I was younger, and I would go visit her, but she wasn't ever able to kick the addiction in her own.

Now, I'm losing my two best friends to it. One is farther gone than the other, and has recently relapsed. We don't talk like we used to. I used to really cherish the time I spent with him. My other friend is just now getting into it. It's only a matter of time before he becomes too distant as well.

The weird thing is, is from what I've heard, my mother had a harder upbringing than my friends. She grew up poor from what I was told. My true d's are both from the suburbs, and one of them even has a nice house and car. Although they both still live with their mothers (we'll all be 21 by the end of the year).

How does anyone even end up on this stuff? I want my friends back god dammit.
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>>134872486
You're at a party and someone asks you to try this pill. You agree because you're no square. The pill makes you feel great, happy, blissful. You want to feel like that again so you ask the guy how to get more.

Except now you're taking pills not just at parties, but to cope with the pain of everyday life. You're not getting them for free anymore and the cost is starting to add up. You realize you can't afford this so you try and get clean but everything feels so miserable, you just want to be happy again, so you look for some cheaper way to feel that way and your "friend" (that got you on pills in the first place) suggests you try smack.
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>>134863173
>tl;dr its the br*ts
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>>134863599
I personally know one middle age mom who abandoned her children and her husband divorced her over it. Crazy woman slams heroin
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>>134867646
>(basically America anyway)

Seriously, why hasn't it been annexed yet? They all live near the boarder anyways, might aswell just take them and put them out of their misery.
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i can safely say 1:6 people in northeast usa are opiate users/addicts.

they use obamacare to build treatment and addiction centers everywhere.
and create industries off of the neo-cons self made heroin epidemic.

afghan war + northeast opiate epidemic
= not a coincidence.
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>>134863173

It's pretty high.

>>134863585

This. Almost all of the white women have a mexican boyfriend that gets them heroine. It's pretty bad.
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It's a giant myth that H is cheaper than pain pills. A 30 mg oxycodone pill (the holy Grail for most pill heads) goes from anywhere between 20-30 dollars a piece on the street. One bag of smack costs around 20 dollars. One bag = one hit. A gram of H here goes for 150 dollars. Maybe back in the day H was cheap, but these dealers now know that we'll off white people NEED this drug to get by every day, so the price has gone way up. Supply and demand.
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>>134873316
>kill China with opium 200 years ago
>now killing the US
THE ETERNAL ANGLO STRIKES AGAIN
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>>134863173
I mainly have people doing cocaine and weed around here, but no heroin.Maybe in the ghetto but not in normal areas.
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>>134863173
It's not even remotely as bad as meth & painkillers.
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>>134863173
Legalize everything.
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>>134874638
Bro, I was getting grams of dope for $100 here. 30's were $25 a pop. When I switched a half gram would get me 5-6 lines. Each line = 1 30mg Oxy. A gram would be 10-12 lines so 10-12 30's. Dope is way cheaper.
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It's crazy bad in Pennsylvania. You can go to McDonald's, order a happy meal, and find pure heroin right in the bag.

It's beginning to grow in California in SF among the Antifa and rave scene. Mostly the crust punk scene. You'll find moldylocks clones strung out on sidewalks downtown.
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>>134874638
Oh and 80mg OC's were the holy grail.
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It's bad man.
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>>134863173
it's mostly white trash and nonwhite varieties of white trash that I notice doing heroin
it also hopefully seems to be a self-fixing problem
>t. lives in heroin OD capital of us
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>>134872486
>>134873212
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUngLgGRJpo
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>>134874638
You're wrong. I'm in the drug treatment field. People are picking up bags for 4 to 5 dollars a piece, which is part of the reason things have gotten so bad
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begin total annihilation tactics.

priority targets:
dealers that sell to children.
dealers that deal in bulk

if local law enforcement will not act.
lock n load, and do it yourselves.
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>>134873680
We don't want them!
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Pills are still the big thing in my part of the country.
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>>134877398
Yeah, its called skag for a reason. H habit is cheaper than a smoking habit
Its only really expensive if you buy the highly processed 'fine china' stuff
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>>134863808
>fentanyl in cocaine
>mix upper with incredibly dangerous downer
what a shame
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>>134863173
What's the problem? It's their life, no reason to dictate what others should or should not do
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>>134877996
A nation suffers if half its population is strung out on junk
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I delivered indian food in Princeton, NJ.

Its my belief the owners of the restaurant were herion dealers, and a lot of the customers were the customers.

People you wouldnt expect either, very wealthy "family" people as well as the usual burnouts.

Creepiest people I ever met. Ivy league town and there are people puking on the street, in bathrooms, and the police do nothing about it.

Its a disgrace, money buys you whatever you want in this society, doesnt matter how you get it. Its all by design.

These people arent going to hell, they are already there.

They fired me, and now I get harassed everywhere I go. Including inside my own apartment.

Indian people are scum, at least most of them. They dont belong in this country. Time for the purge.
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>>134864585
But /pol/ told me Utah is a mormon non-degenerate white paradise
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>>134878140
If that's the result so be it, it's still no reason to strip people's freedoms
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>>134863173
It's pretty bad in the rust belt.

If you stay in the suburbs, you pretty much fall to heroin one way or another.
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>>134863808
Still just F mixed with heroin here. Dropping left and right from OD's.
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>>134863173
Afghanistan is growing it and our soldiers are protecting those fields. (((They))) wanted this.
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>>134873826
Yeah man, those white girls dindu nuffin
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>>134863744
Fent is extremely, extremely cheap to produce. The only reason you can't get a gram of it for 89 cents is because the gubment added a thing to the CSA which basically gives you an automatic life sentence.

Now that Mexicans are involved in it's production at biowarfare levels, aswell as the backstabbing Chinese I honestly don't know why it's not significantly cheaper.

Honestly though, it's still the cheapest option for addicts. Comes out to less than ten dollars a day @ 1$/mg. People only OD because they're fiending and don't take it slow with an unknown substance.

This whole crisis is just a bunch of bullshit that comes from a lack of knowledge on all sides. But then again you can't expect the goverment, nor people who IV illegal unknown substances to generally be shining examples of intelligence.
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>>134863173
I've lost 3 friends to fentanyl. Its not even heroin necessarily any more. There's powerful enough stuff out there that a piece the size of a grain of salt will kill you. Weird synthetic opiods from China are bad news.
I'm glad that dopey stuff was never really my bag.

It is moving out of the inner cities, and kids are getting on it younger. When I was in school 15 years ago, smoking weed, drinking and taking a little X was as hardcore as we really got. Now there are middle schoolers doing that shit and freshmen in hs are booting up on H or other shit like it. Blows my fucking mind. Heroin and meth dealers need to be executed on sight.
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>>134877398
No, you're wrong. You may be in the drug rehabilitation field, but up until very recently I was in the drug using / selling field. I'm not making this shit up. Those prices are accurate here in the southeast US.
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>>134867467
>>134866977
basically this with the corrrction. took lots of willpower to quit. still want.
>>134864080
opiates kill sex drive retard
>>134869259
:( yeah
>>134874776
heroin IS a painkiller, you dont know what you are talking about. also it is more addictive than meth. i like never get meth cravings.
>>134879846
fucking child prodigies
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Straight up fent isn't even the biggest issue anymore. There are things like carfentynal, norfentyal...much stronger than regular fent. Carfentynal is used as an elephant tranqualizer...it's also what the Russians used in that theatre terrorist attack where they killed everyone in the building.
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>>134878290
Downtown SLC is homeless central but the rest of the city is nice.
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>>134863173
I know a girl in the middle class suburbs who started doing it at 15 so I'd say it's likely.
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>>134863585
>its mostly affecting sand niggers and race traitors here

No it's affecting high class white suburbs. Why can't you admit your people have a problem?
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>>134863941
You sweet summer child.
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>>134863173

Ohio is the oppiate capital of america, and probably the world. Its total and utter shit here, you will not see more sorry souls in all your lifes experience. This place is doomed.
Ohio is boring enough as it is, people feel lost, and hopeless...and addiction springs upon them like a trap.

https://news.vice.com/story/ohio-lawsuit-reveals-jaw-dropping-stats-about-the-opioid-crisis
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>>134881522
Checked. Archived that
https://archive.is/btuH6
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>>134863173

yup.

nothing of value lost.
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My brother- Class 1993

Me- Class 2000

My sister and her boyfriend- Class 2006

Same school district. Suburbs.

Me and my brother never touched hard drugs.

My sister and ex husband both heroin, coke, and pill addicts.
My parents are raising my sister's child with another dope addict about the same age.
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>delivered indian food
>people puking on the street, in bathrooms
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>>134881522
>Ohio is the oppiate capital of america, and probably the world.
Ohio use is bad, but the USA isn't even in the top 20 of heroin use in the world
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>>134881198
Can confirm. Was there last week. Downtown is disgusting. Homeless zombies wandering aimlessly through the streets. It was the first time I was actually fully aware that my Glock was ready to go, if needed. You see, I carry all the time and get pretty used to my pistol under my shirt. But last week, while in SLC, I became acutely aware of my pistol.
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>>134881547

Bless you my Norwegian friend, the master of the archives.
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>>134866977

this is a massive exaggeration.

less than 15% of people who ever inject heroin ever get addicted to heroin.

realisistically, the vast majority of people just do heroin once in a while and it's not a problem. pol doesn't get out much so wouldn't be aware of what actually goes on.
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>>134863173
And you faggots say weed is bad lmao. Enjoy getting stabbed by methheads/fentanyl zombies over pocket change.
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>>134882016
Compared to 3rd world countries?

Also population density. Ohio is mostly rural. Its very well headed towards top ten in the world at this rate....believe me...
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>>134863808
>People are putting fentanyl in the cocaine, here in Wisconsin
By the time some of the cocaine gets to places like Wisconsin, it's been cut a lot so they are trying to strengthen it.
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It is spreading because weed is no longer the Cool and rebellious drug anymore, and Cocaine is for rich people
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>>134863808

>people are

(((((CIA/DEA))))) are.
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Guess (((who))) is to blame for the epidemic?
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I maintain substations in the UK and the amount of needles we find in them is disgusting. They break in, shoot up with methadone they got from the clinic which is funded by the government and then leave all their mess for us to clean up. I honestly wish every single one of them ODs and the government shuts down the programme.
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how do i quit opioids.

>>134877117
accurate.
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>>134868396
>Most people on heroin were just normal people who had an injury and were prescribed opiate painkillers.
How the fuck do you claim to know why most people are on heroin? Do you just make sweeping generalizations about everything you know nothing about?
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>>134863173
Where do I get drugs?
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>>134882573
you have to have friends
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>>134882625
What are those...
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>>134882625
Can I still do it if I'm a robot?
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>>134882731
yea just go on the deepweb and download the oxycodone.exe file, check for viruses and run the program!
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>>134882573
Aз cъм твoя чoвeк. Квo иcкaш?
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>>134882874
Little girls or boys or both.
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>>134867467
and barbiturates wd too.
In fact barbiturates wds are probably the worst.
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>>134880633
>southeast
That explains it then. I'm in PA and It's considerably cheaper here. Northeast is fucked. Southeast US is more crack and cocaine
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>>134882863
Sounds easy. Thanks!
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>>134881765

Would kill the demon drugging girls. Instant.
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>>134864585

Damn, the only place I ever saw junkies shooting up in public was in Amsterdam 25 years ago.
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I literally cannot get away from oxys and suboxone. I stop for a few days and all of a sudden my friend gives me a free suboxone. A sub will last me 8 days because im not a real addict. (Just a bored law student). So theres 8 days of being high and now im staying with my grandmother because my grandfather passed away a month ago and low and behold, bottle of tramadol that belonged to my gpa is in the kitchen. Now iv been taking a couple of those a night. I dont go looking for this shit, it finds me. I feel great without it but if its there and free i always end up taking it.
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>>134883414
You're an addict in denial you fool
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>>134873717
>i can safely say 1:6 people in northeast usa are opiate users/addicts

And I can safely say you're an idiot if you really believe this
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>>134883414

Can you get high just by tramadol alone ? I like to take cough syrup and tramadol, once a while but tramadol alone does not seem to do much.
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>>134883414

degenerate
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>>134883414
tramadol is boo boo. you're definitely addicted, friend, but you're at the top a very slippery slope. trust me, you WILL graduate if you don't stop ASAP.
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>>134874781
>Legalize everything

Yeah, that'll solve the problem
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>>134883550
If it was cocaine id do it too. Drugs are fun, and iv never spent money on them. They are always free. Im just bored as fuck this summer.
>>134883671
I take 200 mg and feel really nice. Not high like a real oxy but i feel good when i smoke a bowl on em.
>>134883721
But if i had something to do the next day i wouldnt touch it. Its summer and i just quit my job cuz of shit hours and work environment. I get so bored that if theres drugs around for free i do them.
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>>134883771

yes, it will.

you don't have the fucking balls to go full moonman and actually institute a fascist, prescriptive social order, so the best idea is to remove all safety nets and just let survival of the fittest go to work.

the laws currently do nothing except allow degeneracy to survive through intervention.
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>>134863424
Nipomo here, tell me about it
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>>134883906
Cocaine and opiates are literally the most addictive substances on the planet, you're an addict and are probably going to od on random pills
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>>134882521
Rehab, outpatient counseling, vivitrol, and people places and things. Go to meetings too. The continued structure of a recovery environment will improve your chances drastically. You need to give your brain time to adjust to the fact that it will no longer get its daily dopamine dump
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>>134863173
It's bad, but god bless the fentynal man! Taking these dobers down ebery day, fighting the good fight.
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>>134880633
>until very recently I was in the drug using / selling field


Only recently until your next relapse. Enjoy your OD
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>>134884007
Lol i dont take random pills. I know what i get, its my friends prescriptions. I dont buy it, therefore i dont get random pills from drug dealers, i see it come from the script, hell iv picked up my friends scripts for them before. And cocaines just an example, id do w.es on the menu. I might like it too much but when it comes down to my future and money the last thing im thinking about are drugs. Iv been like this since 14. I did nothing in highschool, got a 3.7 gpa graduating community college, now im getting paid 20 gs from a private college to attend their honors classes. Drugs have been in my life as long as i remember. Who knows, maybe im just a functioning addict instead of a pussy.
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>>134883906
boredom is the dumbest reason to get addicted to
drugs (also the most common). get a hobby and get your mind off this shit.

if your excuse now is you're only doing it when you're bored, you're going to have an easy time convincing yourself to do them when you are physically addicted.

but whateva mang, i aint your mom. also im addicted to oxy's so lel
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>>134863173
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what happens is kids graduate HS with no drive and they sit at home for a year and hate life so they end up getting involved with other miserable people and get kicked out of their home and live with shut heads and get addicted to meth, heroin, and shit. They usually meet the people in some way associated with a weed dependency.
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>>134881466
>No it's affecting high class white suburbs. Why can't you admit your people have a problem?

Did you see that Anon lives in Sweden? DO you really think you know what's going on there better than he does?
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>>134883960
I'm between Orcutt and Santa Maria. I heard Nipomo is fucked with meth.
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>>134884332
Its not like im telling myself im bored, IM FUCKING BORED. And i have tons of hobbys, i study cases and build computers and play guitar (not bad either). I do it all sober or high. Lately very high tho
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>>134884516
And iv BEEN doing it high for about 7 years
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>>134863808

Because they're melanated retards who don't think about future cash flow
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>>134884516
i feel you dog. but if you're not concerned about it then why feel the need to confess in a 4chan thread?
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Two of my friends got fucked by heroin. One was a poorfag and the other middle class. This shit is everywhere in my city.
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>>134884658
Im not confessing, just engaging in the conversation and stating not every user has a problem. Im a drug enthusiast :) i think everyone should consider using drugs at a young age. I see them as not getting high but understanding and gaining a higher level of consciousness and thought. I think addicts are just weak minded people and if it wasnt drugs, there would be other problems in the weaklings lives. You can do anything you set your mind too guys, remember that!
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>>134882134
>Ohio is mostly rural.
>rural

What is Cleveland?
What is Cincinnatti?
What is Columbus?
What is Dayton?
What is Akron?

22% rural population in Ohio
Source:
http://cber.cba.ua.edu/edata/census2010/Urban%20Rural%20by%20State%202010%20short%20ver.xls
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>>134882115
Are you literally retarded? People don't just tie off and shoot heroin "for a fun party night"

By the time people work up to needles they already have a serious fucking habit.
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>>134884920
fair enough.
i think most people can't experience things like drugs on a spiritual level, or anything on a spiritual level for that matter. most people really shouldn't do drugs till later in life because they just aren't mature enough for them. also most things have little to offer spiritually and should be avoided.

the rule of thumb to follow is drugs are bad
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>>134885221

stop getting your ideas from TV, retard.
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>>134884411
My sister was heading down that path though her lack of friends prevented her from finding connections to harder stuff. Graduated HS and dropped out of meme art school after 3 months with no direction. Basically just laid on my parents couch for months passed out on benzos until my parents got fed up and sent her to drug rehab. Seems like a common theme among upper middle class kids.

Though often times you'll read about an OD and recognize them as someone from your class or a few years above or below and not be surprised. It's pretty predictable and already by the time of graduation you'll have an inkling as to who'll be dead in the next few years.
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>>134884007
Hell I had a harder time quitting cigarettes than blow. Sniffing coke really isn't that hard to kick. Smoking it, I wouldn't know. Never smoked crack coz I'm not a nigger.
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>>134885310
Very true, thats why i said consider. Everyone makes you think drugs are bad but its just people that are bad
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>>134874905
Opana 40 stop signs were, they make oxys look like childs play
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>>134885349
Nigga you find me someone who one day decided to shoot up H, without any sort of previous habit, and ill find you a fucking unicorn. It doesn't exist. I lived with junkies for 2 years. I have had various habits myself. Once you start using needles you have a shelf life. No body is buying your retarded story. But by all means keep booting up and telling yourself you aren't addicted.
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>>134885513
sometimes drugs make good people bad. seen it happen many times. we all have a dark side.
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>>134863894
mansfield?
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You guys should know.


Its still the c.i.a it never stopped beeing the c.i.a.

Oure police is too afraid to stop the planes. After we disrupted the flights you motherfuckers went haywire.

FIX YOUR CORRUPT FUCKING SYSTEM ALREADY

http://countercurrentnews.info/2016/09/cia-jet-crashed-with-4-tons-on-board/

EVERY SINGLE PERSON HIGH IN COUNTER-INTELLIGENCE IN NORTHERN EUROPE KNOWS ABOUT THIS.

We have archived all the traitors. Day of the rope is coming.

>this thread is most likely made by a cia faggot wanting to laugh his ass off after beeing initiated.
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>>134863808
Can confirm that I just read in the paper the other day about a local bust where several people ODed because somebody put fentanyl in crack.

I grew up in a 90% white suburb and years back lots of people were popping pills. Some got clean, a few died, and others moved on to heroin.

I avoid hanging out with degenerates but at least a few times a month I hear about somebody who knew somebody who knew somebody who died or whatever. Seems to be out of control. At least 10 so far this summer in my extended extended extended network (not anybody I know personally).

Also hear about quite a few overdoses or drug buses every week.
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>>134885820

i don't use the shit at all, i just sell it. and yes, people go straight from oxies and hydros to shooting. they can't stand the pain. seen several die. they're better off that way.
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>>134867358
>People suck.
Yeah they do. What pills did they give you? I only got shitty vicodin.
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>>134882115
>less than 15% of people who ever inject heroin ever get addicted to heroin.

this is the dumbest fucking thing i have ever read on 4chan and i've been here since 04
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Why is heroin only hitting the US now?
It reached epidemic proportions here around the 80s-90s but its calmed down now
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>>134886094
CIA is literally the world's shittiest organization
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>>134883414
I fucked around with painkillers and benzos for years before it became an issue then i ended up losing 3-4 years of my life. Just about clawed everything i had back.

You're a fucking idiot. Stop
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I know,of 3 ppl who died from OD this year. I overdosed myself quite recently but i was lucky. Our communities are under attack!
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>>134878226

I'll believe it for the sole fact that everyone gets their heroin from Paterson and Paterson has their own little Indian section. I'll buy that no one is doing anything too since it's everywhere in this fucking state now
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We need the wall ASAP
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>>134885418
>>134885418
I went to school with a guy that died a few years back (in his 30s)

He was a dick and a lot of people didn't like him. But on paper he was a respectable guy. $100k a year job, college grad, had his own condo. His mom found him dead from an OD after she didn't hear from him for a few days.
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>>134882566
This is a fairly common story in places hit hard by the epidemic. I live in the i84 heroin corridor in NY and everything anon said is true.

Do you read the news?
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>>134885221
>>134885221
No normal person I know would tie off and start injecting drugs, and I've known some pretty massive pill poppers & coke heads in my day.
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http://humansarefree.com/2015/02/overwhelming-evidence-that-cia-is.html

The head of the DEA at the time, Judge Robert Bonner accused the CIA of being drug smugglers .

Reporter:

"A ton of cocaine was smuggled into the United States of America by the Venezuelan National Guard, in cooperation with the CIA?"

Judge Robert Bonner, Head of DEA:

"That's exactely what appears to have happened."


Its amazing how fucking stupid Americans really are.

>muh freedom 2 stay stupid

>pic related, this fucking otter is smarter than most Americans
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>>134885513
>Everyone makes you think drugs are bad but its just people that are bad

Sometimes, yes there are bad people and they do drugs. A douche bag doing coke only becomes an even bigger douche bag. Sometimes, no they're good people who are now slaves to their addiction. A person doing drugs might eventually take advantage of their friends and family who have only known them (or raised them) to be good, because life is painful otherwise.
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2 overdoses a week in my tiny little flyover town. One of them a year or two ago was the daughter of a close family friend of mine who's very upper middle class.
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>>134867509
yeah fent along with other additives now mostly come from pure powder developed in foreign countries. This goes hand in hand with the "gray death" epidemic where people easily overdose from using the diluted drug or touching or inhaling the source powder.
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>>134881198
Avoid Pioneer Park at all costs unless you want memorable encounters with subhumans. Can Portland please take back their residents?
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>>134885963
>>134887232
That comes down to a nature nurture thing. They were nurtured to be good, but their nature is bad, drugs make a person reveal their true colors.
>>134886986
Benzos are evil, just research the drug for 10 minutes and youll know how horrible it is. Especially for long periods of time. I did em for a while until i realized how horrible they are. Then the withdrawels wanted me to kill myself. Stay away from benzos. unless you have a serious medical issue.
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>>134886736
Because potato bro, we had that good Pharma shit (((they))) were pumping out from the late 90's till about 2009-2010. Then the DEA decided to end that little epidemic, not realizing that they did absolutely nothing to decrease demand. But at this point our good old CIA said, "Well, shit, we invaded Afghanistan 8-9 years ago and have been waiting for this moment, guarding all these poppy fields that have been increasing production 10x fold yearly and we're ready to meet that demand with a FAR worse epidemic."

Hence, you have the Heroin epidemic this country is currently in.
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>>134881522
Geographically Ohio is the perfect place to distribute anything from in the US.

Its within a days drive of most major us cities
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>>134886736
it's not just hitting right now
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>>134887660
Chicago is #1.
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>>134877996
Typical worthless cocksucker, Ancap whatever bull shit ideology for the genuinely autistic. Look at this cunt, they have no concept of familial duties or social responsibilities. Everything is a transaction for these moral sinkholes, these people are mothers, daughters, sons and fathers! Only a complete subhuman can watch as a society sacrifices its people to the soulless opiate god. Do society and kill yourself, I'll even send you a few Bitcoin you anti-social psychopath.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFySU7FUzhk

How many people did you guys kill off to make sure this never reached the brainwashed us public? Or how many more people did you need to transform into addicts?

>the cia torture planes flying "terrorists" are flying heroin all over the fucking world


YOU GUYS CANT SEE THE ANAMOLIES IN THE WAR ON TERRORISM?

>the parts of the afghanistan where us soldiers patroll is also where the fuckin opium is growing
>even the sandniggers use this in their recruitment

Fucking world is a scam
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>>134878336
>Being a slave to drugs is freedom
Slavery is Freedom
War is Peace
Libertardians are Smart
>>
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-real-drug-lords-a-brief-history-of-cia-involvement-in-the-drug-trade/10013

ClA-supported Moujahedeen rebels engaged heavily in drug trafficking while fighting against the Soviet-supported govemment and its plans to reform the very backward Afghan society. The Agency’s principal client was Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, one of the leading druglords and leading heroin refiner. CIA supplied trucks and mules, which had carried arms into Afghanistan, were used to transport opium to laboratories along the Afghan Pakistan border. The output provided up to one half of the heroin used annually in the United States and three-quarters of that used in Western Europe. US officials admitted in 1990 that they had failed to investigate or take action against the drug operabon because of a desire not to offend their Pakistani and Afghan allies. In 1993, an official of the DEA called Afghanistan the new Colombia of the drug world.

Im amazed at how efficently you guys can run these programs while its in the open.
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>>134886845
And you guys should really consider doing something about it.

Every action has a reaction.

The amount of shit oure intelligence services do too keep this justified is ridicliouse.

The whole libya bombing was forced on us. They want a stupidifed welfare voter base. We are the only functiong democrasies on the planet.

Soon the bubble will burst. Im certain theres been ultimatums given. Nukes are starting too look like the better option.
>drain the swamp
>"its more like a sewer"
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>>134888086
Next you'll tell me the war in Vietnam was actually about heroin and that the World Finance Corporation was created entirely to launder cocaine money :^)
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>>134863173
Why can't people smoke weed like normal peoole
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They shut down online drug markets so people are forced to buy fentanyl on the streets. This is some kind of government plot. I don't understand it, but it can't be otherwise considering the actions of government agencies.
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>>134888490
Any time you hear a high-ranking US military/intelligence official talk about "illegal mining" or "narco-terrorism" in Afghanistan, they are actually talking about American ambitions to control minerals and opium production. It's a pretty common in all politics though to just blame an opponent for the things you have done or hope to do.
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>>134888490
>>134888086
Thanks for this info senpai
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>>134863599
mostly pills, only takes a few times running out though before you're looking elsewhere
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>>134889376
signaling 101.

If we stopped the all the planes from landing in Europe tomorrow. The bodies would start dropping untill we allow them to land once agan.

The whole refugee crisis is a pawn in this game. Most everything in modern geo-politics is.
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>>134863173
yes, i know 8+ people who have died from heroin. All of them from upper middle-class suburbs.
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>>134889205
Vietnam and wfc i know nothing about.

I only speak on the current operations i know about. You guys have been dooing this for ages. It dosent take an intelligence operative too see what the fuck is going on
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>>134863599

At least part of the problem is Drs prescribing narcotics for pain, and one the script runs out, they are addicted and need to get it somewhere
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>>134890790
Can at least say Vietnam was a proxy war pushed by the Joint Chiefs of Staff (and hence military-industrial complex). Even being American, I don't have a good picture of the strategic interests outside defense spending and the location of Vietnam itself.
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Suburban N.Y. is screwed middle class areas on Long Island are struggling trying to curb the heroin flooding in from poorer areas known for crime and gangs.

The worst parts on the island are the majority non white areas.
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>>134891797
Was just in Manhattan this weekend. Maybe it's always been this way, but I was on edge the whole time with the number of people who clearly got fucked by drugs, talking to themselves, rummaging through trash, and having that 1000 yard stare.
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>>134891599
The fact that the cia does blackmail on European politicans i know for a fact.

The overall strategic intrest i personally belive is a myth.

I used to belive the strategic intrests was too keep a dominant force on hand for every situation. Aka world police.

That has prooven itself wrong time and time again.

It just looks like fat cats keeping their pockets filled and their friends out of jail.

Vietnam was a proxy war like the others during the golden years of espionage. Today its war on the streets of every western country.

Chaos in the works. If anyone is guiding it with purpouse their doing a piss poor job whatever their target is.
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>>134892377
Your not in kansas anymore
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work in an ER in NYC; not many whites here to begin with but its Hispanics OD'ing on heroin/oxy left and right here.
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its been there a long time
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>>134892377
I hate going to NYC now, I used to love going in on the weekends for a day with my grandfather in 2005 since we lived on the Island but now when I go it's just depressing.
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>>134882017
confirmed for having never traveled anywhere

I seriously can't believe I just read someone writing about how scary SLC is, holy fuck
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>>134881198
I actually overheard a white hair liberal complaing to his degerate son about the mayor yesterday. Maybe there is still some hope for that place.
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>>134893759
Yes, compared to eastern cities or California cities it's nothing. Compared to a decade ago it's very very different. I personally believe the turning point was the "free housing for the homeless" plan that got talked about all over the country.
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>>134894774
>Yes, compared to eastern cities or California cities it's nothing.

It's absolutely nothing compared to literally anywhere else in the world
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>>134863424
>just smoke it yo

t. early 20s soon to be in rehab jr. junkie
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