whats wrong with communism?

jews

It doesn't work

>>134823293
/thread

freedom

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>>134823203
Everything is wrong with communism. Do you have internet? No? Thank a communist.

>>134823203
what's right with it?

>>134823203
it is just an underhanded way that they can outlaw private property(and thereby take it for themselves via organized crime). its a scam. an old scam and part of a plot to invade and conquer europe. a failed plot.

>>134823296
it hasent been tried by any other country
>>134823346
you can have freedom in a communist country???
>>134823367
The internet could have been made in a communist country. The internet just happened to be made in a capitalist country.
>>134823432
Everything. No poor people, and people wont hoard wealth. Why is this bad?

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>>134823203
It doesn't solve the nigger problem

>>134823296
/thread

>>134823330
Do you even know what /thread means, because what you just did was upvote. Get it leddit?

>>134823572
What the hell are you on about lol

>>134823594
>people wont hoard wealth
>implying that is even possible
Its like commies have their head stuck in the sand or something

>3 post by this id in 5 minutes
>slide thread
Wow. The quality of this board has really taken quite a dive.

>>134823203
>whats wrong with communism?

a stupid idea that brainfucks the weak

>>134823871
stop ignoring my question
>>134823820
of course it is. do you know how rich people are compared to some other people?
>>134823918
not an argument

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>>134823594
>it hasent been tried by any other country

These threads are so fucking boring.

>>134823203

It's predicated on atheistic materialism, reducing humans to bio-robots in this life and condemning them to hell in the next.

>>134823203
it's great if you like killing your own people.

>>134823594
Hey Conrad I'd like to create an esoteric communication device that allows all people's in all worlds to communicate and transfer ideas freely. Care to fund my project with rubles? No? Oh I get a free trip to Siberia? Wow thanks comrade

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>>134823704
you see this image?
this is you trying to be funny and failing to fit in bombing so hard OMG HE SHOULD GO BACK TO REDSHIT THAT IS SO ORIGINAL OMG LELELLEELEL I BELONG HERE I AIN'T LIKE THOSE REDSHITNIGGER KEKISTAN PEOPLE NO I AM ALL 110% 4CHAN MAN EBIN POSTER OF SHIT.
It's literally the most over used non-content cancer post ever.
consider euthanasia for the betterment of the human race.

>>134824090
not an argument
>>134824097
wtf are you even on about

>>134824003

""""""never been tried""""""

>>134824182
not an argument
>>134824186
???
>>134824215
yep. never been tried.

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Read a fucking book, you know the one

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>>134823203
It's fucking retarded.

>>134824366
>hurr durr read a book retard
not an argument

You do not get to steal money from man. Communism functions only on theft. What the hell is wrong with people? Is this a bait thread, or are people seriously just getting less intelligent each day? Is it something in the water?

>>134824448
how?

>>134823203
Nice on paper but impossible to apply. Requires 100% of the people to be willing to do it and the gulags sucked ass. Communism is just a fancy name for judaism (Working class = goyims and Power = Chosen Ones)

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Nothing is wrong with it.

>>134824365

^^ speaks the deluded mind

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>>134823203
It is run by communists.

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>>134824003
Communism worked when people were living in tribes. Than we evolved. Its the product of selfish, nihlistic, inbred fucking retards. If you're ancestor helped found what is now know as socialism than you're related to a nihlistic, fact proof, zealotic faggot.
I hate this board now because i feel like i have to defend normies from bait they can't answer.

>>134823203
It's literally a scam, nothing more. Use people's emotions and empathy for the lower classes as well as their desire to live a work-free to coerce them into giving the government more control and power. That's all it is

>>134824647
Communism might work on limited scale like a village maximum

>>134823203
1.) Jews

2.) promotes cultural/national destruction

3.) it doesn't work

>>134824471
that's right it's not an argument especially since communists aren't allowed to read anything that isn't approved by the party.
communism doesn't work because people like him exist, they are true believers and legitimize the horrors of the reality of war, the power vaccum created by the toppling of a powerful nation will never, EVER lead to communism.
The only road that will ever to communism is the one where you fucking kill yourself for considering such a fucking non useful ideology.

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>>134824502
What isn't retarded about it?

Equal pay means no desire to work which means your economy goes down the toilet. Also le jews xdddd

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Pick up a Torah idiot!

Communism has nothing to do with Judaism.

>>134824365
Russia and China still use Bill Gate's Windows XP and Gentoo. Any questions gaffot?

>>134824471

It's about a particular island chain of prison systems, it would broaden your perspective

>>134823203
It's shit

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>>134823296

It's actually surprisingly effective at killing other communists though.

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>>134824911
>Pick up a Torah
Pick up a Talmud.

Name one Communist country that isn't/wasn't a complete shithole

>>134824522
we need to educate people that by redistributing wealth to the people that everyone will be able to live a normal life
>>134824638
not an argument
>>134824643
retard
>>134824647
communism is made by geniuses
>>134824681
theres people who cant go to school because theyre too poor. are you saying to leave them like that?
>>134824723
1. shut up
2. So?
3. Yes it does
>>134824758
WTF are you on about? I dont give a shit what you read
>>134824836
everything?
>>134824909
youre stupid
>>134824935
so????
>>134824993
no it isnt? its redistributing wealth from people that dont need and deserve it
>>134824994
no it isnt
>>134825032
How?

>>134825148
there were no communist countries. countries like the soviet union failed because it was a diversion of communism

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>>134823203
Tard. It's the political system for luzers and failures.

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Communism

>>134825152
lol what an argument, "you're stupid"

>>134825186
>muh "that's not real communism"

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Is

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>>134824365
you're 12 OR have the intellect of a 12 year old.
>Communism==='mom wheres my chicken tendies'

>>134825152
>theres people who cant go to school because theyre too poor. are you saying to leave them like that?
You just used an appeal to emotion to argue for your system, and with the lower class no less, just as I stated. Thanks for proving my point

>>134825199
no it isnt
>>134825238
the civil war had nothing to do with communism
>>134825253
>waahh i cant respond correctly to a post
>>134825326
it isnt
>>134825331
not an argument
>>134825359
no

>>134823203
There is no objective value to materials and its obtainment.

>>134825152
>>>134824522 (You)
> we need to educate people that by redistributing wealth to the people that everyone will be able to live a normal life


People are greedy, everyone want more and provide less as possible.

Redistributing wealth? There would be none to redistribute in a cashless society

Your only hope may be more automation and slack a bit on the "equality"

I'd rather see every family with their manor that share one for 5 families

Gommunism operates on the false pretense that everyone can be made equal. Bugmen think that every human being on this planet all have the same exact capacity for intelligence, work ethic, morals, etc. But this is simply not the truth.

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>>134825503
so you just let people die? just because something is a logical fallacy doesnt make the claim incorrect. thats colled the logical fallacy fallacy

>>134823203
Read the gulag archipelago

Communism tries to be the solution to all the World's ills.

Uses violence as a way to attain power

Can only get 3rd worlders to follow it and fails to appeal to the white European/American

Tries too hard to use the losers of society to attain power. There is a reason why the powerless and poor should never be used to get anything.

Communism fights against nature and forces equality on people who do not deserve it.

Communism creates pointless conflict where it does not need to be (children vs adults, white vs black, poor vs rich, smart vs dumb, etc)

Economically communism tries to appeal to the worker but is woefully impotent compared to what capitalism does for the worker.

Communism takes away free-choice

Communism forces out religion just to end up becoming a religion itself.

No matter what form communism takes (feminism, marxism, ancomm, maoism, etc) it always fails

>>134825528
The only thing of value is race and the autonomous servant of the races rights.

>>134823203
nothing. stalin did nothing wrong.

>>134823203
I dont want to be equal.

>>134825359
mom where's my ckihckne etndies?

>>134823203
Food

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>>134825152
>shut up
Not an argument.

>So?
The destruction of nations/culture/race is a big denigrating factor the the health of society. Look at how Yurope is getting rekt, thanks to commies and (((globalists))) importing so many muzzies. Look at Detroit. Look at Venezuela. Niggers + leftism is a recipe for disaster.

3.) No it doesn't; commie countries had lower GDP than the West throughout most of their existence. People in East Germany thought blue jeans were a luxury item when they made contact with the West again.

>>134823203
communists.

>>134825359
>>134825719
mame wheres my tendies chijken??

>>134825669
Each individual being has a right to own property and expand their personal wills and rights of themselves to their trade and such.

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>>134823203

>>134825629
Solzhenitsyn was redpilled.

>>134825528
retard
>>134825536
1people are greedy unless they get educated
2what the fuck are u on about lol
3 & 4. ?????
>>134825568
retard
>>134825629
>hurr durr gulag!!!!
gulag has nothing to do with communism
>>134825657
1. it is
2. no??
3. retarded
4. you mean using the people? whats this "reason" you talk about?
5. no it doesnt
6. no it doesnt (except poor vs rich which isnt pointless)
7. how
8. no it doesnt
9. no it doesnt
10. no it wont

>>134825898
Communists are the same as capitalists defining people by material value.

>>134823203

It comes from the notion that all human beings are equal. It totally ignores that human beings have different needs depending of our IQ, age, gender, race, religion and culture. Science has proven that we're not equals, and culture programming cannot overlap genetics.

Also, we've evolved into the notions of abstract freedom and justice, and communism keeps going back to the tribal concepts of equity.

In other words, it's outta time, anti-scientific and far from logic.

>>134825621
I know, but you never even refuted my original argument, instead going straight for the emotional appeal.

And yes. Some people die of starvation. It happens. Doesn't mean people can't go out of their way to help the poor out of their own free will.

>>134824643
Kek!

>>134823203
It is literally envy in methodological form.

>>134826003
There is no objective value to production or any matetials.

Why should you or I be defined by something that is arbitrary?

>>134826003
You clearly are a moron

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>>134823203
it's for furries

>>134823203
>whats wrong with communism?
It's Jewish

>>134826003
The Gulag Archipelago was written by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, he lived in the USSR for the majority of his life. His book shows how the culture and practical implementation of communism (Marxism-Leninism), led to the creation of gulags and a dystopian society in general.

You should probably read it, since you're obviously stupid as fuck.

>>134825506
>But, but, but, it wasn't real communism
Yeah, but it wasn't from a lack of trying.

Somehow the Jew Bolsheviks couldn't figure out why the Russian peasants didn't want to just give up the crops that they worked to plant and harvest for nothing. Then the Bolsheviks figured out that by killing a few peasants, it was easier to
convince the rest.

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>>134825657
well said. communism is horrific from what i have studied in college. i was taught by a person who lived under Mao, and the only reason she survived the cultural revolution was because her mother lied about her age so she wouldn't get sent to the rural areas. Her father was in the navy so their family got better ration portions than other people who eventually had to resort to eating grass and tree bark because the redistribution of the rice was so fucked up. people resorted to cannibalism and it was so bad that the people they ate where so malnourished they didn't even receive any nutrients from cannibalizing their children and neighbors

>>134826023
> defining people by material value.
Every one in the world does this whether they know/admit it or not.

>>134823203
>whats wrong with communism?
It is the greatest violation of the NAP ever conceived.

>>134826161
>be organized and defined by materials and its obtainment
>be organized and defined by peoples values rights and actual human values
Humans are the only thing of value not materials.

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>>134823203

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Pests_Campaign

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It gets too many replies on >>>/pol/
May the power of SAGE compel you to make better aurguments

>>134823203
rewarding everyone the same regardless of how much work they do or dont do causes everyone to put minimal effort.

>>134826347

I worked once with a Chinese woman who did get sent to the countryside during the Cultural Revolution. Her crime? Her father was a University professor.

>>134823203
Everything. Now move on bait

>>134826409
Ive never done this because I am not a low iq nonwhite subhuman.

>>134826609

Anyone who isn't a communist moron should be buying crypto. It is the way we are ultimately going to defeat these authoritarian faggots.

>>134826519

Old joke in the Soviet Union: It's hard to make more than 80 rubles a month and it's hard to make less.

Another joke: They pretend to pay us and we pretend to work.

>>134826652
I value human values over materials, I will not have any trade with materialists subhuman.

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>>134823203
The fatal mistake of the communist is to assume that because the slavemaster is evil, the slave must therefore be good. The communist ignores all measurements of genuine morality, and instead assigns superiority according to the mere condition of being oppressed. The National Socialist, in contrast, is aware that most slaves would gleefully become new slavemasters in an instant if given a chance to do so, and therefore are no better than the current slavemaster. Hence the National Socialist must look at the differing quality of an individual's character, including heritable quality.

The communist views history as a sequence of administrative improvements: serfdom an improvement over chatteldom; capitalism an improvement over serfdom. The replacement of capitalism by communism, according to the communist, is hence merely the last stage of a sequential progression from inequality to equality. In stark contrast, the National Socialist narrates history as a tale of spiritual degeneration: serfdom worse than chatteldom (because the serfs are less aware of their own enslavement, in absence of being overtly treated as property); capitalism worse than serfdom (because proletarians are even less aware of their own enslavement, having been given apparent choice in seeking employment). The National Socialist inevitably concludes that communism must be worse than capitalism because its success - portrayed as a proletarian victory over the bourgeois - would make its subjects totally unaware of their enslavement! National Socialism itself, on the other hand, is about struggling against this flow - which is not a flow towards increasing equality, but a flow towards increasing servility (ie. incapability of recognizing slavery).

http://aryanism.net/politics/national-socialism-and-communism/

>>134825669
idiot
>>134825694
youre stupid
>>134825719
not an argument
>>134825726
1. whatever
2. no it isnt. its because of the rich
3. those arent communist countries
>>134825727
not an arguement
>>134825854
go away pls :D
>>134826045
1. while its true that people are different based on things like age, gender, race, religion, culture, IQ, that doesnt affect anything.
2. the fuck are you on about
3. no it isnt
>>134826051
the problem is that people dont care. theres people starving here in america. the only way they will get the help they need is if the government redistributes wealth
>>134826150
no it isnt
>>134826165
you clearly are an idiot
>>134826326
Communism doesnt lead to gulags you retard
>>134826330
>killing peasants
not in communism retard
>>134826347
not an argument\
>>134826418
fuck off ancap
>>134826502
thats just a product of Mao being a retard.
>>134826519
idiot
>>134826609
thats not communism
>>134826647
go away
>>134826783
not an argument

>>134826003

>How does capitalism favor the worker?

Easy, workers have free-choice, workplace mobility, and can come and go as they please from their jobs to find a better job. Communism does not give these options to the worker at all.

>you mean using the people? whats this "reason" you talk about?
No matter how hard you try, you will NEVER train a black man to use communism. The muslim will never accept communism because it is in direct competition with islam and that is haram. The poor will never rise up because they are more than just poor, they are usually uneducated, are physically inept as well as poor at leadership and initiative.

>>134823203
What's wrong with you for asking that question?

>>134826652
Yes you do faggot. Everyone subconsciously wants to befriend people who they perceive to have high value while avoiding lower value people. Everyone does this. The value you hold high is subjective though and many people are after many different things.

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>>134826968

Nothing. It's the most humane and efficient socioeconomic system invented

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>>134826609
i believe you that isn't even the worst of it. here is an excerpt from John Pomfert's book "Chinese Lessons" pg 21
>"Under the twisted logic of the Cultural Revolution, she was automatically in the wrong, because her family had been labled 'rich peasant,' while her son's opponent came from a 'poor peasant' family. Zhou's Red Guard committee decided to teach her a lesson. they mobilized the whole production team, about one hundred people, to give her a taste of her own medicine-hundreds of slaps as she knelt in the village square. After the beating, the woman refused to admit she had done wrong. 'Eat shit,' she screamed at her assailants. 'Eat shit!' Zhou was then dispatched to a nearby outhouse to collect shit in a wooden bucket and dilute it with water. The Red Guard chief too a wooden ladle and poured the runny concoction down her throat. She kept quiet after that."

>>134826968
>>134826968
>>134826968

Hey authoritarian faggot, what are you going to do when crypto takes over the world and you low IQ faggots can't kill people and steal their hard work by force?

>>134827064
No, I do not you filthy non white nigger subhuman, I am Aryan.

>>134826968
>fuck off ancap
not an argument

>>134826968
You write like a retarded 8 year old, and you probably understand Communism about as well.
This is a bait thread though, so here's your (You). You fought valiantly for it, you autistic diamond.

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>>134826968
>2. no it isnt. its because of the rich

It's partially due to some rich bankers like Soros, but even they are considered to be on the social left; as are the many leftist/liberal institutions that fund pro-immigrant shit. The left are the ones screaming for more brown people to enter white countries. Go to any pro-immigration rally, and you'll see red/commies flags everywhere. You are the idiots falling for the Trojan Horse.

The social right is opposed to anybody who would import more niggers. That's why we hate Soros and you commies both.

>>134826968
Communism is inherently Jewish.

Jews are inherently anti-White.

Therefore, Communism is inherently anti-White.

>>134826968
Not an argument.

Communism doesnt work. Command economy doesnt work. Humans arent equal.

>>134825238
The Russian Civil War killed 9 million or so.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zbeIMQuVxY

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>>134823203
it's not Georgism

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>>134823296

/thread

>it hasent been tried by any other country

Yes it is. You just call it Socialism when it fails.

Which is always, by the way.

>>134823203
>whats wrong with communism?

Everything. Particularly for those who have relatives amongst the 100 million lives it took or remember what it was like in the warsaw pact. However the worst, the very worst thing about communism is that it is fashionable with American millennials its like watching those spoilt bone idle whinging dipshits take a big steaming crap on everyone who experienced the misery and fear, death, internal passports, rationing etc that was communism.

As a consequence I just physically attack communists. The only good communist is a dead one and the only good millennial communist is one that has had their face beaten in prior to execution

>>134827454
>Marx
Jew
>Friedman
Jew

Imagine that...

>>134823704
Relax faggot, there was nothing wrong with his post.

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>>134823203
Communists aren’t people. Communists reject our rights so we reject theirs. Rights must be reciprocated, given communists do not accept our rights we need not bother respecting theirs. Given that communists are historically notorious for their lack of respect for property rights and self-ownership and have been responsible for the greatest mass murders in human history, we can deduce that they do not apply rights such as self-ownership to others or themselves. Furthermore, this means that communists cannot be considered moral agents. One can not be considered a moral agent if one does not have an ability to make a moral judgement. Since these moral relativists reject the notion of morality altogether, we know they are incapable of acting in a moral fashion. In order for rights to exist between two or more beings, there must exist some level of reciprocation of rights. Such is the minimum requirement for one to be considered a moral being. Communists are incapable of reciprocating rights, as they do not believe such things exist. We can thus conclude that communists; being incapable of showing the characteristics of humanity, are therefore–for all intents and purposes–not human, and as such should be treated as dangerous primates.

>>134827255
The only thing of value is the race, and our issue economically isnt about the peoples rights to trade and eork themselves but the rights to resources, resources will be used nationally for all the peoples trades and such.

>>134827694
No capitalist created the resources of the nation smd so he has no rights to fully own it.

>>134826990
>Easy, workers have free-choice, workplace mobility, and can come and go as they please from their jobs to find a better job. Communism does not give these options to the worker at all.
so do communists retard
>>134826990
>No matter how hard you try, you will NEVER train a black man to use communism. The muslim will never accept communism because it is in direct competition with islam and that is haram.
youre an idiot
>The poor will never rise up because they are more than just poor, they are usually uneducated, are physically inept as well as poor at leadership and initiative.
Right, thats why with communism we will give those people proper eduaction and resources
>>134826998
nothing.
>>134827131
what about the poor?
>>134827213
fuck off
>>134827322
>hurr durr i cant answer questions properly
retard
>>134827337
>niggers
nothing to do with communism itself fag
>>134827349
>hurr durr MUH JEWS
>>134827360
>Humans arent equal
as of now, yes. Thats why we need to give them the resources they need to BE equal
>>134827519
Have you looked at denmark and norway?
>>134827566
>100 million dead
that has nothing to do with communism
>>134827644
Communism has nothing to do with rights being taken away. Neither do the death """caused by communism""".

>>134827644
>Communists aren’t people.

Agree. They are a disease, a threat of human misery on a vast scale of permanent fear, want and paranoia. A disease that hates individual freedom, conscience and wants to destroy humanity and culture

It's funny how people are born unequal right off the bat, yet communists are there to reject the fact

>>134827694
So long as you arent sn enemy of us you are free to continue your trade, if you are sn enemy to our revolution then you will be banned from your trade.

>>134823203
you are literally the worst kind of person, op. you deserve your life. never forget that, op, you deserve it. you are awful and bring about everything that happens to you.

>>134827931
>It's funny how people are born unequal right off the bat, yet communists are there to reject the fact

From each according to their ability. To each according to their need.

>>134827884
>>134827884
>>134827884
>>134827884
>>134827884

LMAOOOOOO "fuck off" is that it!? From what I hear, you faggots are actually worried about this. Good, you should be, it means the end of your lazy authoritarian faggot genes.

>>134826968
>the problem is that people dont care. theres people starving here in america. the only way they will get the help they need is if the government redistributes wealth
>only way
Not even slightly. This is what the corporate elites in the American government want you to think (keep in mind, I support capitalism, not corporatism; most commies don't realize that these are separate entities). The higher the taxes and more regulations there are, the more control that they have. I think you also underestimate the kindness of strangers, friend. Many people (especially those who are part of churches or other small community charities) are more than willing to go to inner city areas and help poor or starving people directly. Besides, the regulations that arise from our increasingly auth-left-leaning government make it harder for those starving people to get a job and help themselves. All the while, megacorporations like Apple and Amazon hire the best lawyers to find the loopholes in other regulations so they can continue their sovereignty without any competition.

>>134826003
You keep on mentioning people not making arguments but in all of your messages, you haven't either. This maybe helps define communism for you...having people benefit off of other people's hard work.
Communism is an authoritarian lazy intellectual utopia championed by useful idiots who are not emotionally equipped for the modern world.

You don't seem to be interested in the question that you are asking anyway so not going to waste my time here. Its really fucking boring but maybe reading more might help you out. Anything by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn would be worthwhile.

>>134826968
>But, but, but, that's not communism!

So Lenin and Mao were not Communists? Stop the presses! OP has discovered something historians have missed for the last hundred years.
All those people who called themselves Communists over the decades and carried banners calling for Marxist revolution were just misguided fools who didn't understand Communism as well as OP does.

Does that sound about right to you?

>>134827884
>nothing to do with communism itself fag

The vast majority of communists and the left in general are in favor of racial egalitarianism, anti-nationalism, and and immigration. So if you vote for a party with lots of red and yelloy symbolism, chances are you're getting more niggers soon.

What more is an ideology beyond its practical application?

>TFW arguing with a retard

>>134823203
It's an inherently false ideology that bags on the philosophy of gib me dats' for people who are low-minded and willing to relinquish their freedom to the highest bidder.

It's essentially just a wolf in sheeps clothing, posing as a proper ideology yet having none of the prerequisites to become a true one, it will forever be a primitive and substantially low-minded ideology that will forever cater to the illiterate.

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>>134827626
Except Henry George was not a Jew and was a critic of both communism and capitalism and his system, in places it has been implemented, has worked.

Jews don't really bother me. You would be happy to note that the (((neo-classical economic school))) was invented as a direct counter to the ideas of Mr George.

>>134827884

>Have you looked at denmark and norway?

The ethnically homogeneous countries that have markets and are part of a capitalist trade bloc and are defended by the US military? Yes I have looked at them.

>>134828083
wow

>>134827884
>>hurr durr MUH JEWS
Yes, it is Jewish.

You have no problem with the Jews controlling White countries via Jewish Communism. Which is why you and all Communists are anti-White.

>>134827884
>>>134827566 (You)>100 million deadthat has nothing to do with communism


It had EVERYTHING to do with communism. Which is why I have no compunction about killing communists. They view human life as expendable. I view them as expendable. That US millennials have embraced something that destroyed hundreds of millions of families and lives wellwithin living memory , that even banned literature says everything about the US millennial generation - they are worthless utterly utterly worthless and should be globally held in the contempt that their embrace of a system that spawns human misery. Or is the opinion of people who lived under 'communist' regimes so easily discounted by a snotty spoiled entitled American brat?

>>134828269
How would farms operate under a Georgian system?

If a family worked farmland and improved it over several generations, is it not theirs? Wouldn't letting some newbie get their hands on it be inefficient?

>>134823594
Excellent troll mate, you hooked a lot of fish.

>>134823203
communism is just a ghost who si used by jews to avoid see the actual problems, I´m more interesed in what is wrong about capitalism...

>>134828269
>Except Henry George was not a Jew and was a critic of both communism and capitalism and his system, in places it has been implemented, has worked.
Capitalism, Communism and Libertarianism are Jewish.

>Jews don't really bother me
Then you're not paying attention to what the Jews are doing to the White race and White civilization.

Do you even care that the White race will cease to exist thanks to the Jews?

>>134828083
And who decides one's ability and one's need? The state or the individual? If it is the state then who controls the state? If it is the individual then it is up to the individual to decide what he should give to the state for you cannot force an individual to give more than what he decides is his capability.

The problem with Communism is the denial of the individual.

>>134827884
>what about the poor?

Statistically, "poor" people in commie countries are poorer than the "poor" in Western capitalist countries; because commie countries have shit-tier GDP.

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>>134828445
It would help small farmers. Giant agro corps would get fucked though.

the LVT would fall primarily on urban land, not rural land, since land values are concentrated primarily in urban areas. In the second place, the increased cost of paying a higher tax on land value would be more than offset by (1) the savings incurred from paying lower taxes on everything else, (2) the reversal of urban sprawl (and thus of the inflationary pressure that sprawl currently imposes on the value of farmland), and (3) the increase in income that would result from both a higher margin of production and a surge in overall economic activity.

For supportive empirical evidence, see the following:

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>>134823203
It is inferior to Distributism in every way.

>>134828641
>It would help small farmers.

Define small. My family owns over 11 million in farm capital; but we only employ ourselves and 4 middle-aged men.

There's low productivity under communism

>>134828445
My regards to rights are based on earned and peoples values in community, obviously an individuals farm belongs to him and what he has obtained also belongs to him but land taken by oligarchs for the impoverishment of the people, that is the issue not a workers farm and his work and achievements the state will award him for hos work and achievement with more property not less.

>>134823203
cunt

that one day I may still get to kill western leftist communists thrills me

>>134828755
is your land being used efficiently?

>>134827931
yeah, like some are born rich while others are born poor. we need to stop that.
>>134828039
i dont see how im awful.
>>134828093
its not an argument against communism
>>134828095
>Many people (especially those who are part of churches or other small community charities) are more than willing to go to inner city areas and help poor or starving people directly
i agree with this. But im talking about the super rich people who have hundreds of millions of dollars, and they dont give their savings to help the poor.
>the regulations that arise from our increasingly auth-left-leaning government make it harder for those starving people to get a job and help themselves
how?
>All the while, megacorporations like Apple and Amazon hire the best lawyers to find the loopholes in other regulations so they can continue their sovereignty without any competition.
>without any competition
isnt this called a monopoly? youre ok with this?
>>134828125
well, actually i guess i guess they were trying to be communists. But what i mean is that things like concentration camps were not a product of communism.
>>134828200
i dont give a shit about racial egalitarianism, anti-nationalism, and immigration. it can go one way or the other. this has nothing to do with communism itself though
>>134828245
>people that are low minded
not if everyone goes to school, provided by the government
>>134828280
>ethinically homogeneous countries
>defended by the US military
nothing to do with communism
And as for the capitalist trade bloc, this doesnt matter, things like education,healthcare, etc is all provided by the government & from taxes,

>>134828755
and what kind of acreage are we talking here? You mean all told the improvements + equipment value at 11 mil?

>>134828842
there is fucking nothing under communism. you are nothing and have nothing except a share in nothing

>>134828427
>someone is a communist
>that someone does something
>that something therefore is directly a result from communism
nice logic

>>134823203
It has no basis in reality.

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>>134823203
It pushes for equality of outcome instead of equality of opportunity.

>>134828608

"The Jewish doctrine of Marxism denies the noble goal of Nature and sets mass and dead weight of numbers in place of the eternal privilege of strength and power. It denies the value of personality in man, disputes the significance of nation and race, and deprives mankind of the essentials of its survival and civilization. As a foundation of the universe, Marxism would be the end of any order conceivable to man. The result of applying such a law could only be chaos. Destruction would be the only result for the inhabitants of this planet. If, through his Marxist faith, the Jew conquers the peoples of this world, his crown will be the death and destruction of all mankind. Earth would again move uninhabited through space as it did millions of years ago. Eternal Nature takes revenge for violation of her commandments. I believe I am acting today in the spirit of the Almighty Creator. By standing guard against the Jew, I am defending the work of the Lord." - Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf

>>134829009
Notice how you can't actually refute the facts that Communism is Jewish and anti-White?

>>134828894
Pretty much. We got behind on spraying weed-killer in the pastures because we were building a sale barn, but that's negligible. We are actually trying to sell 1/3rd of our land so we can pay the (((bank))) for the loan used to make the sale barn. It's okay though, because our operation isn't what it used to be (10,000 cattle and 20+ employees in the '90s, now 2,500 cattle and ~4 employees)

>>134823203
Not everyone deserves to live and/or we don't have a place for them without lowering everyone else's standard of living even it's by a minute amount.

>>134827884
>>100 million dead
>nothing to do with gommunism
The blood of millions is not washed away so quickly or easily. You must reconcile that you will be issued a bullet by the end of your revolution, to make way for the truth of Communism. That to a true communist all idealogs are tools that outlive their purpose.

It's a Jewish ideology
>>134823293
fpbp

>>134828973
5,000 acres + muh tractors + irrigation systems for crops + well troughs for cows to drink from + silage pits (concrete slabs) + barns, silos, corals, and storage buildings + electrical lines to run much of it.

>>134829009
>>someone is a communist>that someone does something>that something therefore is directly a result from communismnice logic


The people who killed my grandparents called themselves communists, they had the flag you label yourself with. You call yourself a communist. I want to tear your face off and it was not just in my country Poland. It was the same in all communist countries, I have met Chinese whos grandparents were executed just for speaking English. People like you must be killed. You are the initial cancer you must be cut out before you make a tumour that attacks the boy of humanity, shreds families and destroys EVERYTHING to replace it with you NOTHING

>>134828950
>>134828950
>>134828950

How is it not!? Cryptocurrency is complete unregulated ancap greatness. When we keep all of our currency completely anonymously and you greedy authoritarian faggots cannot get a hold of it, how are you going to massively tax us or take our wealth to fund your nonsense?

>>134828950
why should you, a pleb who is likely a basement dweller get the same amount of money as an apple or google employee who is smart and worked hard all their life to attain a good education and job that pays big money, while doing something outside of that level of effort?

>>134829361
The only thing that matters in a Georgist system is the real value of the land so improvements are not factored at all

Determining the land value would depend on your location

>>134828450
fuck off
>>134828535
People are greedy and hoard wealth. and also capitalism results in invading countries because capitalists don't like the idea of other people developing againts the USA's interests.
>>134828621
stats?
>>134828842
how?
>>134828852
capitalists are so violent jesus
>>134829051
yes it does
>>134829073
what do you mean?
>>134829134
you can fuck off
>>134829195
see, this is how the capitalist thinks. There are lives that dont matter. ALL LIVES MATTER
>>134829209
you have no idea what communism is about. How is death in anyway related to communism? leaders like stalin were just retards
>>134829366
Communists dont kill BECAUSE theyre communists; theres nothing about killing in the actual ideology of communism
>>134829490
ok i guess some people should deserve to have higher wages; but with that people should use put in their efforts into giving college education to people, food, homes, etc

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>>134828950
>i dont give a shit about racial egalitarianism, anti-nationalism, and immigration

The general concept of communism is "all the poor people of the world unite under one banner", therefore communism is inherently anti-nationalist and destructive of native cultures and races. In practice, this has been the case, and communism has been especially detrimental to white nationalism and power. The USSR and China intentionally funded nigger nations and gave them weapons with the purpose of damage white nations.

Also, your opinion is irrelevant. Even if you were a full NazBol, the majority of commies are globalist, cosmopolitan cucks who want to damage white society, and/or niggers who support commie parties to take advantage of white ethnomasochism, and your voice would get drowned-out in the red and brown tide.

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>>134829732
You're going to Hell and you'll stay there for ever, Anon..

>>134829732
>you can fuck off
You're an anti-White that can't even justify his Jewish ideology.

>>134823203
How is it NOT wrong?
Everyone is equal, just some more equal than others.....like niggers and their waiver on paying child support, and keeping their babbling quiet in a library. Fact is Communism, just like Captialism, a jewish scam to control people. People like to conflate socialism with communism since they like to repeat what they hear and all they think of, since their talk head heroes tell them that, they say "left wing socialism" Sure it "could be" but historically it has not been, and we already have the nationalism part, which you are likely only scare of because of twisted history the victors wrote. Being self critical is of the utmost importance for everyone, even you. Read the "bad guys" side of the story and you start to see history repeat....

Communism was bad from the beginning https://medium.com/@alf_3d0/a-deeper-look-into-why-whorshipping-lenin-as-a-hero-is-evil-79449a801d0b

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One day you'll see the light

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>>134829732
>what do you mean?
What I mean is when your reward is completely separate from the work you have an unfair system. People should be given a chance to make a living for themselves, but if they can't cut it due to laziness or incompetence then that is their own fault and they shouldn't reap the benefits of everyone else's work just as much as the hard-working people do.

>>134828950
>i agree with this. But im talking about the super rich people who have hundreds of millions of dollars, and they dont give their savings to help the poor.
There is literally nothing wrong with people who have hundreds of millions of dollars. They aren't inherently hurting anyone by having accumulated that wealth, and many of them donate to charity frequently.
>how?
This was worded poorly on my part, sorry about that. What I mean is that the job market suffers when there are less growing business that need new workers en masse when they first form. For example, if a new company of say, potato chips is formed, they would probably need 30 or so workers right off the bat. Because of all the regulations, new companies or small family businesses occur less and less.
>isnt this called a monopoly? youre ok with this?
Yes it is called and monopoly and no, I'm not okay with it. In a truly free market economy, monopolies would have a hard time protecting their sovereignty, as new competition would constantly spring up and threaten that. But because of these government regulations, new companies to compete with existing monopolies are rarely as successful, and the monopolies get to stay alive because people only really buy from them, and also because they have the money and power to dodge regulations smaller companies can't.

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>>134829732
>stats?

>>134829732
>>134829732

^^^^ He has no answer, we are winning, we gonna make it mydudes!!! It will all be over soon.

>>134829930
>>134829903
>>134830012

>>134829361
if you wanna crunch the number check this out

http://www.henrygeorge.org/ted.htm

>>134829999
Also, quads.

>>134824097
this

>>134829930
youll go to hell
>>134830118
i guess so
>>134830177
hm ok
>>134830182
i dont think those are "communist" though

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>>134830506
>i dont think those are "communist" though

>>134830506
>youll go to hell
Which is ironic coming from an anti-White Communist.

>>134823203
the global economy is capitalistic. communist countries simply can't compete

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>>134823203
It destroys culture and religion, promotes degeneracy, doesn't allow people to own properly, and then expects the people to self regulate and they don't and the fallback for it is always a brutal dictatorship.

It doesn't work.
Democracy is the worst political system, except for all the others.
Capitalism is the worst economic system, except for all the others.

its way for the top to manipulate the bottom into destroying the middle so the top can live in their secret societies without opposition from the middle while the bottom (where almost everyone is in a communist society) live their lives in squaval devoid of competition, devoid of what makes us human. Also if you want to help the working class make a business and hire some people, free-market capitalism is the best system for the working class

>>134823296
/thread

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>>134825186
>real communism never been tried! hurr durr

You're fucking delusional

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>>134830506
>i guess so
So does that mean you'll give up Communism? (hint: embrace Distributism)

>>134823203

Good theory. Wrong species.

>>134823203
that is has not yet been realized

>>134831027

It's not even good theory.

>>134823203
Better question: Why must you make this shitty thread every single day?

>>134823203
>i don't really have a problem. you do, with history books, people that have lived under communism, documentaries about communism, the few communist nations left, and the most annoying thing is how much faggots love communism not taking into consideration that people who are divergent are usually the first ones banished to the gulag or just straight up kicked off of the planet in communism.

>>134830897
>free-market capitalism

objectively the worst

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>>134828950
>And as for the capitalist trade bloc, this doesnt matter, things like education,healthcare, etc is all provided by the government & from taxes,

Denmark is a 95% white country with a single white culture, and private property rights; but you're correct in that it has a huge state-controlled welfare system.

Have you ever considered that you might be a National Socialist?

>>134830506
>hm ok
Thanks for at least hearing me out unlike most commies I've interacted with. Can't tell you how many times I've been called capitalist pig or whatnot. You have some balls posting here at least, especially when your ideology is so hated here. Respect for that

>>134824698
many communist villages then

>>134823203

https://wiki.mises.org/wiki/Economic_calculation_problem

Here's why. This shit should be posted every time this shit thread is re-posted.

>>134831304
How are you going to get geographically-exclusive resources reliably under that system?

>>134825199
actually thats why forced migration happens tard

>>134824758
what party dumbnuts

>>134823296
>commies don't work

>>134823203
It's about one million years of evolution too early to implement.

>>134830177
>In a truly free market economy, monopolies would have a hard time protecting their sovereignty, as new competition would constantly spring up and threaten that. But because of these government regulations

C'mon now, do you really think a free market would stop monopolies? that is ridiculous. What about economies of scale? Large companies can simply push out competitors

>>134823203
Against human nature. If you have to kill all dissidents and anyone else who tries to leave you have a flawed political system. Not to mention the starvation.

>>134831482
Remind me why East-Berliners wanted to risk their life to climb over the Berlin wall again.

>>134831427
shut up negro

>>134830999
im not sure. i guess you kinda had a point back there but i dunno. people talk about how mass murdering was a direct product of communism & stuff like that & I cant see why
I dont know what distributism is
>>134831118
I dont, this was my first thread on this
>>134831133
??
>>134831185
I dont know what being ethnically homogeneous has to do with this
& I never considered myself that
>>134831293
im just not sure, cause i guess you make some sense
>>134831415
ill read about this
>>134831557
why?
>>134831610
well i dont ever think of killing dissidents, & im not sure why communism would lead to starvation & not from stupid leaders like mao & stalin

>>134826793
perhaps you know what is called. i used to know a professor of eastern european studies and this guy was from russia before it was full of cool shit like 10 year old heroin addicts and the gang rule of like everything. he talked about this drink dispenser thing that they had out on city streets, it would piss out some caffeinated drink. the part that stuck with me was that the cup was attached to the machine by a chord, so all of these people are all drinking out of the same cup on a block. im fucking blasted.

>>134831648
to escape the soviet union which was not communist

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>>134831782
>I dont know what distributism is
Pic related

>>134831782
Dissidents are killed because the political system is so bad that it can't stand any criticism. Generally, people don't like having the state tell them where to work and how much money they can make and where they can live or what the can say. Communism leads to starvation because when government allocates resources it ds so inefficiently.

Only everything about human nature.

>>134829732
as much as this is noise. rope rope rope rope rope rope rope rope. kill a commie save your kids. better dead than red. you are nothing.

>>134831737
Not an argument.

>>134832011
i guess this sounds good too
>>134832300
i dont know about not being able to criticize communism but i guess what you say also makes some sense. Wont the starvation problem be solved by making sure the government distributes resources more effeciently?

>>134832656
>Wont the starvation problem be solved by making sure the government distributes resources more effeciently?

In theory I guess but good luck with that. Maybe someday AI can take over and it will work

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>>134823293
/thread

>>134829280
>Ancap
>not Jewish

>>134832926
Who is Rabbi Waton and why should I care about what he said?

>>134832656
Not enough resources to fill and government is inherently inefficient at everything it touches. Free market means you have to be efficient or someone else will beat you and put you out of business. Communism has no mechanism to weed out shit people and shit practices. However it could work small scale like collective farm or something similar. Luckily in America people have the right to form such groups and have defects communism.

>>134831782
>I dont know what being ethnically homogeneous has to do with this

Whites statistically have higher IQ averages, which creates more stability and technological advancement. Being ethnically homogenous also leads to less conflict, because conflict = diversity + proximity. The Nordic countries also have private property rights and a capitalistic drive system, which encourages investment by the people who are meritocratically-proven by the market system. Private investors tend to be more knowledgeable about their trade than leftist party bureaucrats.

You should really consider being a national socialist. It's created the best societies, even when it's being hampered by too much leftism/non-native egalitarianism. See: Sweden's muslim problem.

>>134827884
>communism has nothing to do with rights being taken away

The primary tenant of communism is based upon the abolition of property rights. Would you care to offer a real argument now?

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>>134833192

>>134833716
You didn't answer my question

>>134823594
>thinks commies have r&d
>forgets that they kill the smart people

Fucking idiot commie garbage. Just bottom of the barrel scum.

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Fascism works.

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>>134833851

>>134833670
>>134833701
i guess these make sense
>>134833702
true

>>134834226
Can you talk? Are you a bot posting images?

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>>134833851
Jews hate white people always have always will.

>>134833701
you mean jews right? whites haven;t done shit

>>134823203
First of all, it doesn't work.
Second of all, even if it did work, it's a fucking miserable existence where individuals are just a cog in a machine.

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>>134834319
Sure I can talk Jews invented communism to place themselves in the seats of power forever
Isn't it funny how that kike Lenin still drove a luxury Rolls-Royce whilst lisping equality.
Funny there is always a comfy Jew at the top

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>>134834784
>Isn't it funny how that kike Lenin
Lenin wasn't Jewish though

>>134823203
It's immoral to steal. Just because the government does it, doesn't make it moral.

If 10 of us are in a room and 6 of us agree that we should take your wallet - that doesn't make it moral, just because the majority of us want to do it.

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>>134834312
Not even memeing, Denmark is almost exactly what Hitler wanted for Germany, besides it having a little more social liberalism.

>>134834596
Jews just took-over what whites built. See: Henry Ford, Walt Dinsey, etc. Many of them saw that Jews were using nepotism and discrimination of goyim to gain control of higher institutions; but after WWII and later the 1960s, it became taboo to question Jewish rule. Basically, whites let Jews take-over because we became too libcucked. Marxists were pushing for that shit, BTW. Even those commies that didn't do it intentionally, were helping to do it by proxy, via the USSR and other commie groups constantly attacking traditional white power structures.

people are greedy, the kikes who run it are greedier

>>134823704
fagget

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>>134834978
Do your homework or stop shilling if he dropped out of a kike whore he was a kike.
InB4 he didn't know
Communists had no religion
It was a Jew

>>134825148
Yugoslavia

>>134835330
His mother wasn't Jewish either, what are you talking about?

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Op having mental breakdown rn

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>>134834978
You think I'm new?

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>>134835479
Lenin's mother was a jew.
Lying to someone who knows the truth doesn't get you anywhere.

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>>134823203
Ask anayone who as lived under it.

>>134835864
No she wasn't. Her father was born Jewish and became an Orthodox Christian

>>134835602
>>134835864
This. Get rekt you fucking shill slime nigger.

>>134835479
Stalin, however, ordered Ulyanova to keep Lenin's Jewish roots under wraps. A few years later, Stalin began to purge Jews from among the leaders of the revolution. Prior to his death in 1953, furthermore, he was preparing to send the whole Jewish population living in the Soviet Union to concentration camps in Siberia

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>>134836058
Why are you replying twice to my same post dude

>>134823203
It was invented by a cocksucking houseboy.

>>134823203
It doesn't work.

>>134823621
Wow never looked at Vietnam on this image. Never knew they weren't that smart

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>>134835976
Crypto Jews......yawn

>>134836056
>muh shills

fuck off newfag scum

You cant suck Putin's dick when ever you please.

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>>134823203
The pilgrims almost starved because they were communists and they all stopped farming because everything was free, anyway. Thanksgiving redpill.

>>134823203
It's honestly a retarded ideology made for retarded people

>>134823203

The problem with communism is it is an attempt to romanticize what is essentially just cult behaviour. Looking past that, from an economic standpoint is doesn't make sense on paper or in reality. It wouldn't work even if human beings were by nature completely selfless, because there's a difference between being charitable and being a willing slave to parasites.

>>134836269
If you found out one of your great-grandparents was born Jewish would you kill yourself anon?

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If you identify as a communist you're either wilfully ignorant, an idiot or actively malevolent.

>>134836481
Yes but I would convert first so there'd be one less jew

>>134823203
>Expecting an idea that you can create a perfect utopia where everybody gets everything they want and they have to do nothing for it to work

>>134836597
You should kill yourself anyway just to be safe

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>>134823293
Try again

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>>134836636
That's only what the Jews at the top tell the wretched poor at the bottom after they loot their farm for the Sabbath table.

>>134823203
I don't want my shit stolen by the government.

Communism's problem is its ability to fail itself and the people every single time.

>>134823203
Everything. The very core of Communism is a contradiction of itself and it is laughable that anyone could possibly take it seriously after it's constant, glaring failures.

its only good for about 50 people or less

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>>134836685
I have no filth in my lineage. I'm not a mutt of unwanted ugly genetic sewage. My ancestors weren't rent collectors, coin clippers, or pimps.its you who should kill yourself for the abomination you are.

>1.
People are not ants, sharing to the extent marx wrote about is bullshit. It's not how humans or any animals (besides ants) are. He sourced his theory from the late 1800s view of cavemen, eg: they knew fuck all and thought that tribal humans shared everything.
And also it relies on everyone being Mary sues who never do any wrong ever, or mindless drones becuse it's easy to fuck up the system by cheating it. Which is why gulags and NKVD is required.
>2
there are not enough resources in the world to support everything being free and no way in hell supply can keep up with demand. Jamal wants 10 iPhones becuse shieeettt.
>3.
there are a lot of people who value work just as much as the money it brings. People get bored. Bored people create degeneracy like the world has never seen.

>>134837249
>there are a lot of people who value work just as much as the money it brings
I'm not defending communism but that is actually one of the arguments used in favour of it. People value creating things, not work itself. What communists propose is a world were people are free to create, to learn, rather than live in wageslavery
>there are not enough resources in the world
Also an argument used against capitalism

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>>134836565
>pic
>in 2017
Yep my friend,"The Gulag Archipelago" IS Author's work
And has nothing with reality

And gulags did not exist from 60 to 91 years

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>>134823203
Its essentially sold as the ideal that we take from the rich and give to the poor, when in reality communists kill the poor and become the rich. It's literally a political facilitation of a nation wide heist. What's stolen; kinship, solace and freedom from gulags, objective history, natural demography, societal future's and ultimately a governable sense of national duty and morality.

The fact it is so universally praised as a realistic solution tells us that humans are more likely to succumb to con's than to spot and stop them. Stalin was quite simply the greatest thief that stole and nations history and soul. Re-purposed and left in Stalin's image, communism lives on in the hearts of those who never truly built anything.

>>134837818
Is that a soviet passport? Interesting

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>>134823203

I hear a whole lot of arguments saying
>"it don't work"
But what if it could
What if everyone on earth was educated enough to understand the meaning of self sacrifice to provide for the success of the nation? What if everyone on earth was in cooperation And worked to benefit his/her countrymen?

>>134838054
>soviet passport
Nope Military ID

>>134837818
>>134838054
Actually nevermind, I dont think that is a passport, what is it?

It's a threat to humanity.

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>>134837693
The value is the feeling. The fruit of ones labors is the house and family and their well being, the money is only a means.
More often then not in communism, you have to work not becuse you value the work, but becuse you'll be shot if you don't.

>>134838149
Oh okay.How did the military work under the soviets, was there conscription, or always voluntary?

Absolutely nothing

>>134823203
The most pathetic faggots are the ones that want answers spoon fed to them. Go look it up on the internet you lazy dick riding nigger.

>>134838357
I know that conscription took place during the first patriotic war, WW2 , not sure about later wars however

>>134838357
nothing changed
Soviet-conscription
Russia-conscription

>>134838581
And you prefer the Soviet government to now?

>>134838107
And if I had wheels I'd be a wagon. ALl you need for the whole thing to come crumbling down is one individual taking advantage of the altrusim of his fellows. Wishful thinking will get you nowhere and that's all Communism is or ever will be.

>>134838525
Not all Soviet people go to war

Afghanistan for example

>>134838703
In comparison with present-day Russia, yes I prefer Soviet power.

>>134838704

This makes a lot of sense, I guess it's true that it looks great on paper but in reality it's only human nature and human nature is controllable in small groups but not in larger ones.

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Communism is Jewish con artistry on a national scale.

>>134838755
Do you mean that there was no mandatory service during the soviet war in Afghanistan?