>There are people in /pol/ who are not NatSoc Explain yourselves

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>>134818668
pol is a libertarian board

I am against statism in all forms.

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>>134818668
>there are dumb faggots

Basically they are ancaps and shills.
The ancaps got caught up in the "muh moralism" that wrecked part of youtube for several years, and now cling to their retarded ideology like commies

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>>134818668
>Explain yourselves

Adolph Doesn't give me a chubby.

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>>134818668

I'm a trap and also NatSoc

A lot of my friends tease me and say I look like Elsa Jean. What they don't know is that I dress up like her when I'm alone in my room :)

Lmao at all these suburban white boys trying to start up a nazi larp guild after school

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>>134819266
Post proof or don't comment

>>134818668
While I fully want gas the kikes race war now, identifying with being a Nazi openly is stupid because the names of National Socialism and Adolf Hitler have been so thoroughly dragged through the mud by kikes and liberals that normies will tune you out if you even mention them.

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Racial purity is a spook.

>>134818668
well half the nazis hate me and the other half think my entire culture was made by whites who suddenly turned shitskin even though they killed all the shitskins in their vicinity, so no

>>134818668
I'm against all kinds of socialism.

>>134818797
>>134818862
Individualism is for fags

>>134818668
I see no point in following a movement that will have no power in any political landscape for a very long time. I agree with some of the principals and think it could work in modern society in some way or another. Most of the people just spam degenerate and gas this. Basically it's a movement too many people of low IQ use as an excuse for violence that shit everything up for any kind of rational following to form.

NATIONAL = National interests (every single citizen, including africans, jews, mexicans etc.)

SOCIALISM = A range of economic and social systems characterised by social ownership and democratic control of the means of production.

/pol/ is dead. So hypocritical. I wonder what the next board is. First it was /b/ that lived with the Anonymous Guy Fawkes meme, that died. /pol/ lived with the pepe meme and that has also died.


Another observation to make is the unironic hate of jews which is basically Marxist (being oppressed by jews).

>>134818668
Ummm everyone here is NatSoc. All that non-NatSoc shit you see are just fellow /pol/aks larping. What are you a newfag?

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Ave Caesar

>>134820908
Fuck off, violence is coming whether you like it or not. Political violence is not the problem, tolerating kikes and multiculti leftist statism is.

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>>134821092
are you a shill or this is your first day?
If you don't know how to differentiate NationalSocialism from marxist socialism you should leave this board and then kys

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>>134818668

I don't like the soc part of natsoc.

>>134821303
Do yourself a favor and join reality nigger. You aren't going to get a race war, there will be no day of the rope, and you'll never be able to generate a movement strong enough to entice the violence you're craving. You're living in the wrong country if you think killing alternate opinions is what makes a good viewpoint. This is one of the low IQ retards I mentioned about earlier.

>>134821548
The leaf knows not why he must shitpost, only that he must.

>>134821717
Libertarians are worse than communists

>>134821776
The government won't even tolerate whites segregating themselves when shit starts to get ugly. Eventually, things will get bad enough for people that something happens. Enjoy the inevitable crescendo of violence as people have their backs against the wall, all thanks to kikes, useful idiot leftists and spic and nigger-lovers.

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>>134821717
Then you're stupid.

How can you claim to be nationalistic and not love your people? Hitler wasn't just an idiot who worshiped a flag/country, he was a hero who loved his people above all else. You can't be a "nationalist" without wanting to help your fellow countryman in need. Never forget this quote by Hitler

"We don't say to the rich 'Give to the poor', we say 'German people, help each other'. Rich or poor, each one must help thinking, there's someone even poorer than I am, and I want to help them as a fellow countryman."

Love for his fellow countryman is true National Socialism, sacrificing a part of your wealth so that all your fellow countermen can have decent standards of living is the penultimate form of nationalism.

>>134822147
When shit starts to get ugly it won't be because niggers, spics, and kikes live around each other dumb fuck. You trying to turn it into that just shows how fucking stupid you really are.

I don't dislike Jews as a whole.

>>134822495
Thats nice and all but he was still a faggot

i believe in zionism but i dont think all jews are bad

You have to drink the koolaid to believe NatSoc will work. IT's as much of a pipe dream as communism, it just doesn't have the death toll associated with it, and the people who follow NatSoc are marginally smarter than communists.

They still think that a certain type of government with relieve them of their current responsibilities and realities, which is will not and cannot.

>>134822495
any whites who cant become successful in capitalism need to die and be taken out of the gene pool.

>>134822829
you are a faggot

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>>134818668
Nat Soc will make US more like the UK. Uk anons unironically fap to infant sacrifice to the NHS.

I would rather live under Sharia law.

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>>134822829
Shut the fuck up kike

>>134823032
That "failure" would still be your fellow countryman, never forget that. The only people that should be taken out of the gene pool are those with defective genes that perpetuate misery and decadence through countless generations.

Luck is real, anybody can mess up and be at the wrong spot and at the wrong time to ruin their lives, have some empathy for your people, for common empathy between a nation is what makes it strong.

>>134818668
Just An-Caps that want the freedom to still be pieces of shit, but not accept the consequences of other people being pieces of shit around them.

>>134823110
That come back did not refute the fact that Adolf Hitler was a raging faggot

>>134822654
Things will get bad as we move towards socialism and authoritarian leftist statism as the shitskins and liberals have the voting numbers necessary to dominate the vote in our system. More gibs, more handouts, and white men are the largest part of taxpayers for said gibs. When people are having their children stabbed walking down the street because a nigger wanted to nig, when whites are paying the vast share of taxes so that niggers and wetbacks can get more gibs to go on nigging or running their cartel in the southwest desert, when the federal government prevents whites from segregating, continues to infiltrate white identity movements and subvert or Waco them, whites will have had enough. It might take a hundred years but leftism has killed this country. We were doomed ever since the Union won the Civil War and Booth shot Lincoln.

>>134823300
what happens to mentally ill children in muslim societies? (hint: they are quietly killed)

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>>134823300
>Baby is deaf
>Baby can't breathe
>Baby's heart can't beat without machine
>Baby intended to die very quickly on in life and not meant to survive
>Baby has constant seizures that would result in immense pain if said baby could even feel pain


>"H-h-hey guize lets keep it alive and let it suffer, at least we'll feel good about ourselvez!"

Kys, there's nothing that can even cure his conditions, only experimental therapy which might lessen his suffering

communism is ded why evryone is too corcened about?

>>134823396
>That "failure" would still be your fellow countryman, never forget that. The only people that should be taken out of the gene pool are those with defective genes that perpetuate misery and decadence through countless generations.

Precisely what I was talking about above. Accept people your color regardless, reject everyone else regardless. I grew up in a poor white area. Blind faith, regardless of it's source, will screw you over always.

The idea that if you get rid of all non-whites that things will magically work is a meme.

>>134818668
Socialism, in all it's forms, creates an environment where the weak thrives. Ultimately any such system will eventually collapse because natural selection will favor those who use all their allocated resources for breeding and thus spend none of their resources for the common good.

>>134821873
not an argument

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>>134818668
I'm not too keen on the socialism in "national socialism"

>>134823006
>They still think that a certain type of government with relieve them of their current responsibilities and realities, which is will not and cannot.
t. No idea what NatSoc even is

But enjoy our capitalist hellhole that we will have in a couple decades

>>134823899
see >>134822495

>>134823714
The government is preventing the parents from coming to the USA tho.

>>134823573
You're conflicting politics with your personal opinion and using it as a biased validation for why you hate niggers. I'll give you points though, you at least tried to sound rational.

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>>134824092
Good luck with that, Schultz.

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>>134818668
I'm a National Urbanist. It's like Nazis only instead of hating Jews we hate rural and suburban retards.

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https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/134761861#top

Blacks aren't human;

>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1635020/
>
>The gene microcephalin (MCPH1) regulates brain size during development and has experienced positive selection in the lineage leading to Homo sapiens
>Instead, our data are consistent with a model of population subdivision followed by introgression to account for the origin of the D allele
>the lineage leading to modern humans was split from another Homo lineage, and the two lineages remained in reproductive isolation for ≈1,100,000 years
>During this period of reproductive isolation, the modern human lineage was fixed for the non-D allele at the microcephalin locus, whereas the other Homo lineage was fixed for the D allele
>These two alleles are differentiated by a large number of sequence differences accumulated during the prolonged isolation of the two populations
>At or sometime before ≈37,000 years ago, a (possibly rare) interbreeding event occurred between the two lineages, bringing a copy of the D allele into anatomically modern humans
>Whereas the original D-bearing Homo population had since gone extinct, this introgressed copy of the D allele in humans had subsequently spread to exceptionally high frequency throughout much of world because of positive selection
>Speculation about the identity of the archaic Homo population from which the microcephalin D allele introgressed into the modern human gene pool points to the Neanderthal lineage as a potential (although by no means only) candidate
>Furthermore, the worldwide frequency distribution of the D allele, exceptionally high outside of Africa but low in sub-Saharan Africa (29), suggests, but does not necessitate, admixture with an archaic Eurasian population
>It would be of great interest to sequence the microcephalin locus in Neanderthals or other archaic Homo lineages, should it become technically feasible to retrieve and analyze nuclear DNA from ancient hominid remains

>>134823396
>That "failure" would still be your fellow countryman
I dont care. we only need winners in this country, we dont need people dragging us down even if they are white. you dont become the master race by letting the worst of your race to continue to breed.

>>134823714

How fucking noble of you to decide when someone's life is worth living.

Canadians need to be freed from the suffering of their existence. The day of the rake can't come soon enough.

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authoritarianism, while useful in short bursts to revive failing states, is not a sustainable form of government

>>134824393
I expected nothing smarter from A FUCKING LEAF.

>>134824475
Sweet shrine. Do you use it for invocation of Kek?

>>134824263
No, my validation for hating niggers is that they are useless, smelly, dumb apes, who rarely do anything of note except rob, rape, and consume gibs. The FBI crime statistics support this conclusion. The welfare expenditures support it, too. So does the pantheon of history.
>muh bias
You argue like a fucking kike. Try responding to content next time instead of weaseling out of any real response.

>>134824159
Socialist describes a political and economic system, not just helping you fellow countrymen out ffs

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>>134824475

Which they did;

>http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0010648
>from Neanderthal individual from Mezzena Rockshelter (Monti Lessini, Italy)
>We show that a well-preserved Neanderthal fossil dated at approximately 50,000 years B.P., was homozygous for the ancestral, non-D, allele
>certainly shows that speculations on a possible Neanderthal origin of what is now the most common MCPH1 haplogroup are not supported by empirical evidence from ancient DNA

Many other genes also show introgression into humans from Africa;

>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3174671/
>A long-debated question concerns the fate of archaic forms of the genus Homo: did they go extinct without interbreeding with anatomically modern humans, or are their genes present in contemporary populations? This question is typically focused on the genetic contribution of archaic forms outside of Africa. Here we use DNA sequence data gathered from 61 noncoding autosomal regions in a sample of three sub-Saharan African populations (Mandenka, Biaka, and San) to test models of African archaic admixture
>Three candidate regions showing deep haplotype divergence
>Interestingly, the Mbuti represent the only population in our survey that carries the introgressive variant at all three candidate loci
>Extensive simulation results reject the null model of no admixture and allow us to infer that contemporary African populations contain a small proportion of genetic material (≈2%) that introgressed ≈35 kya from an archaic population that split from the ancestors of anatomically modern humans ≈700 kya
>One candidate locus with an unusual segment of DNA that extends for >31 kb on chromosome 4 seems to have introgressed into modern Africans from a now-extinct taxon that may have lived in central Africa
>We estimated an initial split time of 1.25 Mya (95% CI, 0.7–2.1 Mya) and an admixture time of 37 kya (95% CI, 1–137 kya

>>134821548
Well both tax you a lot so whats the difference?

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>>134824231
His genetic disease is extremely rare and only 15 case have ever been recovered in history.

Assuming the baby could even "feel" pain, since it seems to be a vegetable, it would in considerable pain since it can't even breath anymore, can't even hear anymore, can't even move it's eyes, etc. Plus the kidney and heart are starting to fail.

Why perpetuate the baby's suffering? The US has no cure and will only "test" new experiments on him. The parents are really fucking stupid and deserve to be shot for prioritizing their "feelz" over what should actually be done for the baby. The doctors are right, parents should've listened to them and let the baby pass away peacefully and without pain.

>>134824582

Not mine. But I've talked to the dude it belongs to on here, and he's really cool if you ever meet him.

>>134818668
I'm a Jew so..

>>134824612
I know you believe what you posted was well thought out and could be considered content. It wasn't. You just rambled on about how whites will finally take up arms and start stabbing the nearest brown thing because of socialism, the left, and kikes. That's not content, that's you being a fucking retard. Go read a book son.

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>>134824518
So you think parents should be allowed to take their children whom are in extreme tormenting pain and take them somewhere else to prolong their suffering?

This wasn't the UK govt telling the parents they can't go to the US, it was the doctors preventing the parents from doing it. So the parents took it to court and the doctors showed the judge the facts and were gonna win, resulting in the parents willingness to drop the case. Trust the professionals, not your fucking feels.

>>134825818
>So you think parents should be allowed to take their children whom are in extreme tormenting pain and take them somewhere else to prolong their suffering?

Yes. It's not the place of the government to make this decision. Not government's business, not government's responsibility.

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>>134824545
>what was the roman/spanish/british empire
>what was the entirety of feudal history
>what was anything leading up to the great (((french revolution)))

>>134818668
I like to lurk And browse happening threads. Ignore racist threads, ignore hitler threads, ignore trump generals, ignore christian threads. Im here for a out 10% of the content and the occasional bait threads like this one. Natsoc is a meme.

I'm ok with socialist programs if they better everyone(healthcare). But excessive amounts of foodstamps and aid without asking for community service in return has gone too far. i believe we've gone way too far from basic. i don't mind taxes being high( i live in fresno california & combined wages with my wife are 86k). im greatful i live in america for the sake of 3 meals a day and the odds of being murdered in my sleep arent very likely. i love my life. My jimmy's are rustled by all the people who don't see what goes on in the rest of the world to appreciate how fortunate we are to even be in america. with that said the only circumstances for homosexuals being acceptable to me is being monogamous. abortion shouldn't be covered by taxes(should have to be a medical loan that can't be filed bankruptcy on). most of all i am ok pleasing peoples demands as long as it doesn't put us more in debt than we can make annually by a long shot. and it doesn't shove degeneracy down peoples throats. God Bless America, and I beg to the God i don't know so well to help us all. i struggle with some of the Gore i've seen and couldn't kill someone if the different was a color. But with time i'm feeling more vocal about diversity( It's ok to race mix, but to eliminate races from outbreeding makes me mad. all the shit about blacks and camel jockeys taking over is starting to make me a tad racist(white here)

>>134825166
You're fucking retarded and know nothing about history or even the current world. Brazil is a shithole because of all the niggers and shitskin mongrels that vote for socialism. Sorry if it hurts your feelings or offends your developed beliefs but it is a certifiable fact. Kikes engage in kikery, again a fact of you cared to look. You waving your magic wand of rhetoric and saying I'm not speaking truth doesn't make my words false. It makes you a pretentious cunt and a sophist, twisting empty rhetoric into a false argument in place of anything real. Eat shit and die.

intoxicated, so i didnt edit. it was a ramble with truths i felt like sharing. i wish all of you well. please always be the racist unfiltered people i've loved. i wish everyone was that way.

We need a new system, National Socialism was developed in the 1920s too much has changed for it to be a viable solution.

>>134826887
>twisting empty rhetoric into a false argument in place of anything real
That sums up (You) pretty well. I mean comparing Brazil to the US and saying socialist is the one and only cause makes perfect sense right? You're a simple minded fool and you get treated as such. Get mad at yourself and read a fucking book.

>>134827612
You just can't admit this truth, that white genes produce better cultures than brown genes. That's why for you everything has to be infinitely nuanced and the premise of racial differences never accepted. You've called me a retard or insulted my intelligence in every response, at the same time you don't acknowledge reality. Pathetic.

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I am Jewish and far right. I don't support you because I am not a cuck. Kahane was right.

Honestly the day of the rope applies to both commies and natsocs.

>>134820520
Fuck off wimp. Go get coddled by mommy.

>>134818668
I'm a mischling. I'm prowhite, but would never fit in and refuse to be sterilized.

>>134825818
fuck?

>>134818668
I believe that citizens should be motivated to work hard and improve themselves. Socialism is not very good at this, so i am a libertarian.

I am patriotic though and believe we should take care of our citizens. But the line between the useful ones and the incompetent should be clearly distinguishable.

>>134827873
Now you're talking to me like I'm the boogeyman you've taught yourself to hate. White race is best race nigger lover. You telling me to acknowledge reality is just the icing on the cake for this wonderful conversation we've had.
Key notes you've made:
>Kikes bad
>Niggers bad
>Spics bad
>Socialism bad
>Whites good and will riot... eventually
I'm insulting your intelligence because you clearly show very little signs of it. If you took an introspective view of yourself maybe you'd see why I'm telling you this.

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>>134818668
>OP is not NAtSoc

Explain yourself

captcha: Route Dresden

>>134818668

>nationalism is good
>being a cuck is bad
>Hey let's glorify the very same system our grandfathers fought against to protect their countries from foreign opression

HURR DURR

>>134818668
Politically Incorrect means Fuck you!

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Not being a National Socialist is being a cuck and traitor to the White race

>>134818668

Natsoc is for costume larping faggots. You stormfags have held back nationalism for years.

>>134818668
Because the ideology will never, ever, EVER be implemented again. With the racial demographics making the western world less racially homogeneous and Nazi Germany being seen as being both evil and a failure by the vast majority of the world's population,there's pretty much zero chance of natsoc ever being relevant in mainstream politics.

>>134818668
A bunch of die-hard ideologues who are more interested in staying on their high horse than in actually saving the white race.
I can respect them as individuals, but their beliefs will be the death of Europeans. Absolute freedom will only result in absolute slavery, so long as the kikes are able to import darkies and subvert our own society.

>>134819101
Kek. How have I never seen this image posted here before.

>>134818668
What is the difference between natsoc and socialism? If any.

>>134829549
pic is not national socialism; promptly kill yourself.
>>134830959
>held it back
If nationalism doesn't serve whites, then it's useless. I don't care if Tyrone waves an American flag in between muggings, it just makes the flag meaningless.
>>134831321
NatSoc is essentially just a state that eliminates debt slavery and explicitly defines itself by ethnicity/race. There WILL be ethnic conflict in the future, and you need to take back your countries. The best way to do that is NatSoc.

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>>134818668

Socialists of any kind must be physically removed.

>>134831790

You are conflating natsoc with an ethnic nationalist state which can be organized in many other ways besides natsoc. The brand is poison and its followers are faggots who only help the enemy.

>>134829322
>protect their countries from oppression
Yeah, worked out wonderfully for us, huh? Saying Britain for the British is now enough to get you jailed by your own government. Fucking kikes ruined the West; we would've been better off if Germany won.
>>134828933
NatSoc only would have workfare at most. Smoking pot in a warehouse will not get you welfare checks.

>>134829549
>Right to self-determination
Off to a kek-worthy start
>More land for the sustenance of our people
Or you can preserve the land further through free trade and let some third-world shithole grow your food and fuck up their land.
>Strong ethnic/racial/national identity. Citizenship is only granted to those who display those ideals
An asinine point. Citizenship should be granted to those bets qualified to produce in society, not how many pairs of flag underwear they wear.
>Laws that protect foreign guests from unjust/inhumane crime
Nazi Germany sure was great to their foreign guests.
>No foreign lobbyists. No non-citizens in seats of power
When the socialist party becomes entrenched, they'll do whatever they want and take bribes from whoever they want, and there aint shit people can do about it.
>social programs to help the unemployed, disabled, pregnant, elderly, etc.
Redistributing wealth? but I thought you said we'd have the right to self-determination?
>Prevention of immigration, and deportation of illegals
Yes, why should we possibly entice high-skilled specialists from other nations to become -insert nationality-?
>All citizens must have equal rights and obligations
See: Gestapo
>Abolition of unearned/stolen/slave-driven income
And who's to say what's unearned? The socialist party? What's to stop them from using this as an excuse to topple any economic competition?
>Personal enrichment from war........
Personal enrichment from war is bad, but state enrichment is a-ok. Really makes you think.
>Nationalization of Corporations.....
Because the State is tooootally going to be mindful of the environment and the people. China doesn't count, right?
>cont.

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>>134831790


Also nationalism in America will inevitably serve whites even if its civic in nature as most darker immigrants are undesirable and would not be admitted by a civic nationalist state.

>>134829549
>cont.
>Old age welfare
Keep your hands out of my wallet, grandpa. Just because you didn't work and save doesn't give you the right to fuck up my life.
>Indiscriminate punishment for all terrorists
Don't need socialism for this
>Education.....
Contradicts self-determination statement, try again.
>Child labor laws
Again, don't need socialism for this
>Legal opposition to known lies........
Might just want to toss out that whole self determination thing.
>Freedom of religion
Gee, how generous. Again, don't need socialism for this.

Gee-whiz, what a great list, certainly got me thinking.

>>134818668
I don't have to explain myself to you.

>>134818668
One word: socialism

>>134831976
A state unwilling to put people over profit, or reinforce morality, is going to be subverted. NatSoc actively guards both. Call the methods what you will.
>>134832178
>(((civic))) nationalism
There we go again. My belief that whites should get an exclusive state will already get me called a Nazi. Why should I shrink back from it? I like many of the basic principles of NatSoc.

>>134832384
>>134831616
How do you people stay here for so long and still think that NatSoc has anything to do with Marxist redistribution of wealth?
The only thing that NatSoc does is keep national wealth inside the nation, and insure healthy morality. For fuck's sake, just read the one paragraph Hitler wrote explaining his definition of socialism.

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>>134818668
I am as about as NatSoc as you can get but im still a young, weak, and low XP generation Z with very little resources at my disposal. so idk what i can do atm to propagate the ideology.

>>134832703
Hmmmmmmm I wonder what could have possibly given us that impression
>>134829549

>>134831824
Hitler wasn't a socialist, it was just a meme to draw in socialist agitators - as was the red flag. Once he consolidated power, he killed the genuine socialists like Strasser.

In Marxism, State socialism is when the State owns everything.
In Natsoc, socialism is when everything is shared among the people fairly who do work, either of mind or body -- creative or laborious -- so long as it benefits society in some way. So, for instance, stock market trading would become illegal. These traders are basically gambling on other people's work. They "earn" money off the work off others, and worse yet, then often use tax loop-holes to avoid paying their fair share back into the community. Natsoc also ends usury -- the lending of money at very high interest rates and other banking practices designed to leech the wealth of average citizens resulting in housing and financial crisis.

Nationalism isn't just the people celebrating the nation and government but also the government celebrating the people. The Government in this system exists to serve the people, unlike now where it's more the opposite. Government is also minimal because society will be raised to such a high moral standard that eventually law will become unnecessary. There will only be natural instinct and it will have been made good.

All this and moar is possible with National Socialism.

>>134832814
>Hitler wasn't a socialist
Nice meme, friendo.

>>134832510
Short of a flat out race war, which will likely require a obvious national emergency that's severe enough to threaten to wipe out the country, how do you expect to create a white ethnostate? I'm not against a white ethnostate in principle (I'd actually like it), but Implementing one will be far easier said than done.

>>134818668
it's become the domain of white trash meth heads

>>134832992
This had better be an ironic shitpost, anon, or I'm going to be very disappointed in you.

>>134833014
He wasn't, he purged socialist agitators from the party in the Night of Long Knives. He actually later went on to speak about his use of propaganda to draw in socialist agitators. It's not my fault you're too dumb to research this yourself, burgerblood.

>>134818668
These natsoc posts are boring.
I blame political correctness and lack of free speech.
This board could be way better without these vitriolic posts if we all had more freedom to express ourselves and the Overton window was wider.

>>134833147
you got sumthin ta say?

>>134833166
Dumb apologist.
He was a socialist who ousted competitor socialist parties. He recognized the power of socialist populism and decided to squash it by force to maintain his and his party's power. He redistributed the wealth and had his central bureaucracy control all the means of production, ergo he was a Marxist.

>>134833354
I'll say one thing, that was gr8 b8 m8. Really had me hooked.

>>134832807
That's a NazBol troll. He's been posting that for weeks. I assure you, that is not NatSoc. From left to right, and top to bottom: 2, 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 12, 14, and 15 are bullshit. No gimmiedats or """rights""" (read: privileges).
>>134833047
That's exactly my point. If desiring a white ethnostate in itself is socially unacceptable, we might as well adhere to the strongest system, which is NatSoc, imo. We just need an economic collapse to force ethnic divisions to the surface, which should happen soon. Worst-case scenario is UBI--that will keep people complacent, but it will allow us to fund a lot of pro-white activities.

>>134818668
>following a meme ideology that will never be tried again because it's not taking seriously even a little bit

Sorry guys, even though national socialism brings up a lot of good points, unfortunately we live in a society where fucking Stalinist Communism would be tried before National socialism wold be tried again.

It might sound cool but ultimately if a very serious politician tried to advocate for trying national socialism he would be laughed at and called a maniac. No one takes anarcho-capitalists seriously and no one takes national socialists seriously, so I would rather not waste my time shilling for it

>>134826171
The government of the Roman Empire was far less stable after the transition to absolute monarchy. Every couple of emperors you'd get a period of assassinations and civil war, which were essentially unheard of during the Republic era.

>>134833545
present an argument then?

>>134819266
KILL YOURSELF FUCKING FREAK

>>134818668
I don't like to be forced to do anything.

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I don't so easily buy into propaganda and youtube videos for my political beliefs.

Natsoc posters are on par with Aussies because of how much they shitpost. They're typically overly opinionated newfags with sticks up their asses about EVERYTHING.

>>134833397
He redistributed corporate wealth--that is, he gave back to Germany what the Jews had plundered from it. If you're a successful German, your shekels are safe as long as you don't sell out your nation for profit.
As for government control of the market, no shit, Germany immediately started shifting to a war economy for self-defense.

>>134818668
>spanish
>nazi

You are not a part of what they think is the master race you fucking idiot moor

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>>134818668
>being a cuck pinwheel flag loving idiot

>>134833147
Banning usury would unironically solve 99% of modern problems.

>>134833720
The difference between communism and NatSoc is fundamentally this:
Commies force you to DO something (what you rightfully hate) in the name of the nation, while NatSoc forces you NOT to do something so that the state isn't subverted.

>>134818668
Easy, OP. Socialism--in any conceivable iteration--simply doesn't work. If it did, Hitler could have won. He fell into the very trap the Jews he hated so much set for him.

Private property is all there is. Anyone arguing otherwise is just someone looking to steal your shit.

>>134834014
that's such a play on words and you know it

If you want to do something they don't like, they'll force you to do something else.

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>>134834014
There are no differences,you all are filthy socialists

>>134833166
>>134833014
It was a little socialist, at least as much as America + everyone had to work and no free gibs for losers. Everyone who cant get a job in the private sector gets a job with the state, like filling pot holes. >forced work omg
yea all able bodied people should be working. Problem?

>>134834014
"Anything" includes skimming my finances you nigger.

>>134818668
I'm an anglosaxon style monarchist

National socialism is a good alternative especially given the current political climate but its long term stability and potential for corruption are concerning

Libertarianism would be nice but is out of touch with reality and a complete doormat.

>>134833671
-sigh- if I must
>In Marxism, State socialism is when the State owns everything
So far so good, no arguments
>Socialism is when everything is shared among the people fairly who do work....
Wait, so who ensures that everything is shared equally? Who enforces that?
>Stock traders are leaches
Except for the millions of dollars of investment they bring in for the company. What the hell do you think "shares" are?
>Natsoc also ends usury
Again, who enforces this? Perhaps a large, central bureaucracy with overriding authority on all market practices? Maybe a political party that has a vested interest in keeping the average citizen from challenging their dominance? Hmmmmm
>Nationalism isn't just the people celebrating the nation and government
Nationalism is an arbitrary term used to describe feelings of pride and unity among the citizen base.
> but also the government celebrating the people.
Nice pipe-dream buddy. Governments don't celebrate the citizen base; as humans they'll invariably abuse their power when they realize it can go unchallenged.
>The government in this system exists to serve the people
Until they realize they control the means of production, the army, and there's nothing anyone can do to stop them from abusing their power.
>Government is also minimal because society will be raised to such a high moral standard that eventually law will become unnecessary
This statement alone confirmed this as a shitpost.

A for effort, buddy.

>>134834160
No, they won't. That's not how it works. You try to import shitskin labor? The state fucks you in the ass. They won't force you to pay a lazy piece of white trash, they'll just make sure you don't fuck around.

That is literally the point of laws. They criminalize certain actions. I wholeheartedly agree that our current government's (((individual mandates))) are BS, and nothing like that would be passed in a NatSoc state.
>>134834132
Tell that to SA farmers. Maybe they would still be ok if they showed Ngumba and Mombasi the deeds to their land. Honestly, how is your private property going to be respected, given how shitskins vote and how our current policies are going?

>>134818668
Nigger kikes , pretty obvious

>>134818668
White nationalism, hell yeah.

Socialism, fuck off.

I'm a free man and I can do whatever the fuck I want. And fuck taxes.

>>134818668
THE NAZIS
ARE FUCKING
LOSERS

>>134833796
>redistributed wealth
Woah wait, I thought you were going to disprove my point, not confirm it.

>>134818668
Different opinions.

>>134818668
Fuck off stormfag. /pol/ is a board welcoming of all shitty ideologies. That's why you have so many commies, stormfags, and AnCaps here.

>>134834728
>No, they won't. That's not how it works. You try to import shitskin labor? The state fucks you in the ass. They won't force you to pay a lazy piece of white trash, they'll just make sure you don't fuck around.

do you lack the ability to laterally think?

>be a company that makes a product
>want to make product A, not product B
>state says I am not allowed to make product A
>I have literally no choice but to make product B otherwise the state uses force to seize my assets
>"See? You're so free! We didn't force you to do anything!!"

I'm not even against state direction of the economy to some extent, but you're so fucking bad at talking about it. You give everyone else a bad name.

>>134818668
Why does everybody hate natsoc, all I want is a couple acres, nice house, wife/2.5kids and a stable 9-5 job. I'd gladly give the rest to a decent society.

>>134833147
i smell down syndrome or judaism which one bub

>>134833609
>No gimmiedats or """rights""""
That's the polar opposite of socialism, friendo.

>>134835069
And all I want is to not pay your healthcare and your children education,fucking socialist scum

>>134835069

> all I want is a couple acres, nice house, wife/2.5kids and a stable 9-5 job. I'd gladly give the rest to a decent society.

Start working for it you alternative bernie sanders faggot.

>>134835162
I thought Jews were supposed to be the socialists? They even have their own ethno-state with Marxist leanings. American Jews are statistically more likely to vote left/marxist. Anyone who supports socialism of any kind and says they're combating the Jews probably has down syndrome.

>>134820520
Says the commie

>>134834728
The defense of private property is the sole impetus for war.

If you truly cared not about private property, you could not possibly live. You'd literally suicide yourself so others might feed from your dead carcass. Of course, in a cruel way, that's exactly what communism is.

>>134835069
Then get off your lazy ass and fucking work, commie scum. Also, stop going to anime image boards and clean the cum off your "yes we can" shirt, you absolute cretin.

>>134821092
You sound like a new friend.
Pol was here long before the frogposting

>>134820520
>living free is for fags,while doing what some retards tell you to do is for alpha men

>>134835069
What's to stop you doing so in ancapistan, or right now, if that's all you want just go fucking do it

>>134834835
CORPORATE
As in, groups. You dumb shit. In Germany, national wealth belongs to the Germans. Kikes stole what they got their, and the state gave it back to the people. This is a core principle of ethnic nationalism, not even NatSoc, so if you disagree with this, you're a limpwristed nigger kike faggot, and not worth my time.
>>134834947
Make whatever product you like--unless the method of making it (i.e. importing shitskins, outsourcing) subverts the country. You lolbertarians get so triggered over any notion of regulation, and then you start forming ridiculous strawmen. I don't care if you start a business, I don't care if you want to make a bunch of completely useless wooden doohickeys, go ahead. I won't tell you what to make.
But if you paint those doohickeys with instructions on how to kill white people and shelter illegal shitskins, then we have a problem, because you are trying to attack the nation. How hard is it to understand what NatSocs want? We've been stuck together in this shithole for years, you'd think we would get a decent understanding of each other.
>>134835267
Yes, exactly. NatSoc is not (((socialism))). The "socialist" refers to collective identity and a will to protect said identity, nothing else.
>>134835625
I believe that groups also have inherent rights, not just individuals. And when the homelands of my people are threatened by foreign invasions, we absolutely must act.

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NatSoc somewhat destroyed Germany. Thats a huge Plus for them, but beign a fuckin German prototyp Nazi? Hell naaaah....

>>134835069
Typically associated with a loss of freedom.

>>134826605
This. Mostly I'm fine with welfare programs as long as the state asks something for the community in return, if you're unemployed you should be given small amounts of labor in a quota for that week, jobs that help the community. Ideally imagine if there were a database that anyone with a full-time job(or retiree) could input things they needed help with, like mowing lawns, watering plants, cleaning gutters, etc and those jobs would be assigned to the unemployed in return for their welfare until they're back on their feet. Not back-breaking labor, but enough that each person chips in and helps the community. This could only work in a white high-trust society though, probably. Thoughts on this model?

>>134821776
The racewar had already begun years ago. Whites just haven't started fighting back yet

>>134820260
HI actual jew

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>>134826605
>>134835895
>Mostly I'm fine with welfare programs

>>134818668
Because socialism doesn't make any sense to me in any form whatsoever.
Why would you want to work and then have it handed over to the person who doesn't?
>"well just make everyone work then"
That eliminates freedom, and freedom is a basic human right -- the freedom to do what you please. If you want to not work, fine. Just don't leech off of me because I chose not to be a NEET

>>134835895
I'm fine with it, but I could also live without it. I don't want to have my life controlled by the state, and I understand where the lolbertarians are coming from, but I also care deeply about preserving my race. I'd give up any form of welfare without a second thought if it meant getting the sneks on board with a white ethnostate.

>>134835853
So if the State decides someone is too powerful for their liking they'll confiscate their wealth at gunpoint and claim the wealth was "stolen," then ship off the dissenters to unchallenged State power to slave-labor camps? Wow sounds great, really got the brain marbles spinning.

>>134835895
Would likely involve a fair bit of micro managing, and like you said, it only really works in white high trust societies, so you can pretty much count out the cities for the moment.

>>134818668
>>There are people in /pol/ who are not NatSocExplain yourselves

Participated in two bloody conflicts over nationalism and think socialists are worthless people trying to control not worthless people. Plus most natsoc are either prison gang tier or scientology tier deluded.

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>>134818668
National socialism fucked every form of right wing ideology, anything that is not on the left hand side of spectrum gets ridiculed becase of it.

Fascism is a better alternative, Mussolini has less negative connotations anyway.

>>134818668
I've read 1988 and I pretty much let go of any extreme ideology.

Mainly because I wouldn't want to live in one, I wouldn't want my family to live in one or people that I care about.

A monarchy with a philosopher king interested in science and absolute well being of his people - would be amazing, but we all know this is just fantasy so for now democracy would do.

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>>134818668

I'm not a tryhard edge master for one

>>134836064
How many times do I have to tell you people? NatSoc refers to group identity. Nothing else. It has nothing to do with welfare socialism--if you don't want to work, you don't get a cent, and if you do work, what you earn is up to your employer.
>>134836075
No, it was only because the group was not German and had German assets. If you're rich, whatever, go ahead--that in no way contradicts NatSoc, as above. And how is your """nightmare scenario""" any different from our illustrious Jewmocracy right now? If you try to set up a business or make money, you're literally taxed and regulated into oblivion. But hey, it's the "will of the people."

If an authoritarian leader starts fucking with the people, you know exactly who the problem is. But a democracy diffuses the blame throughout the populace, and it is nearly impossible to correct a tyranny of the majority.

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Wtf I hate libertarians now

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>>134821548

I can't find a source for this quote, can you?

>>134836573
>not an ancap

Those are not real libertarians

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>>134818668
Im radical traditionalist. Is that a problem OP?

>>134818668
Because it's a fucking meme. You will never have political power again no matter if you were right or not. And I don't think all jews are bad, only the ones at the top.

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>>134824393

How the fuck do you get food or labor then?

>>134836442
That's the issue with you Marxist cucks. You unironically think a centralized government body with extensive overreach and full control over the body public will just somehow "respect" the sovereignty of the individual. I don't disagree on the taxed and regulated into oblivion part, but that only proved my point you absolute child. Less government = less overreach = less chance of abuse of government powers. With smaller government, the effects of government abuse are mitigated as well. No government with the extensive power to seize a corporation's wealth at gunpoint is going to respect the individual once they have all that wealth (see: power) in hand, and you're a fool if you think an arbitrary sense of ethno-nationalism will magically override the human tendency to abuse power.

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>>134836792
>And I don't think all jews are bad, only the ones at the top.

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>>134836668
Roads.

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>>134824545
Any capitalist democracies last longer than 300 years?

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>>134818668
Counter revolutionaries will be met by the revolutionary army and court.

>>134818668
I ain't paying for Boogie2988's healthcare, sorry bud.

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I don't understand why natsoc hates jews

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>>134836382
"""""""""""democracy"""""""""""""

banks literally robbing the people, holding them hostage for their fuck ups and getting bailed out.

people complain that nat soc steals wealth or some shit from some jew nigger. What the hell is this then?

Fucking trash interest rates. Just steal the fucking money. At least it'd be more fucking straightforward then.

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>>134837153
>I don't understand why natsoc hates jews

>>134836922
Yeah, I'd be willing to forgo basically everything ONCE I GOT A WHITE ETHNOSTATE
A state necessarily must have the tools to remove shitskins and keep them out. And frankly, if the choice is between freedom and destruction of the race, or slavery and the perpetuation of the race, I choose the latter.
Obviously, it isn't that simple, as you have made abundantly clear that abuse of power is not something whites tolerate easily.

>>134836980
>consensual

Anyway who needs roads when you have an helicopter to throw commies like you

>>134835466
too much down syndrome in this reply i'll just give you a (you) and save myself some energy

my ho-ohs won't stuff themselves nom nom nom nom

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>>134835710
individualism wins again!

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>>134835466
>Anyone who supports socialism of any kind and says they're combating the Jews probably has down syndrome.

This isn't a nation board. Edgy, faggot kids treating the Internet like it's some dominable entity need to get their sun quota for the week.

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>>134818668
fuck you, i wont do what you tell me

>>134837060
What the fuck is that flag?And why I have seen that shit with lions in multiple threads today?

>>134820520

> intentionally trying to warp the meaning of individualism to mean a society devoid of culture or large scale cooperation between a common people in an attempt to mask your parasitic socialist bootlicking nature.

KYS.

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>>134837434
>This isn't a nation board. Edgy, faggot kids treating the Internet like it's some dominable entity need to get their sun quota for the week.

>>134837386
That nigger is violating the NAP,just own a gun and kill him

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>>134837282
hol up

Jews were behind gommunism?

proof.

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>>134837434
>tfw so white absorbs enough sunlight in seconds

>>134837329
>I'd forgo my freedom
>arbitrary racial definitions are worth my personal sovereignty
>The state totally won't redefine race to justify seizing wealth when it wants

And this is your stop. You are now free to choose either stepping out of the helicopter on your own or having this gentleman give you a friendly push.

>>134835853
>I believe that groups also have inherent rights, not just individuals.

That's true of course, but whatever group rights exist are necessarily a function of the individual members' consent--preferably informed, but more often than not coerced.

But it's irrelevant to my point. My point is: Hitler lost because he sucked down meme cum from the most diseased cock ever. The cock of socialism.

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>>134837554
America's Communist Movement Owed a Lot to Jewish Support
http://myjewishlearning.com/history/Modern_History/1914-1948/American_Jewry_Between_the_Wars/Radical_Politics.shtml
http://archive.is/1no4Q

Anti-Semitism
https://marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1931/01/12.htm
http://archive.is/XxRXf
>In the U.S.S.R. anti-semitism is punishable with the utmost severity of the law as a phenomenon deeply hostile to the Soviet system. Under U.S.S.R. law active anti-semites are liable to the death penalty.

Bolshevik Propaganda
https://archive.org/stream/cu31924030480051/cu31924030480051_djvu.txt
>Senator Wolcott. Are they in favor of any particular religion?

>Mr. Huntington. Not the leaders of this movement themselves; no, sir. The leaders of the movement, I should say, are about two-thirds Russian Jews and perhaps one-sixth or more of some of the other nationalities, like the Letts or the Armenians. The assistant in the foreign office was an Armenian. Then there are the Georgians; that is, the so-called Gruzinians of the Caucasus, and the remaining number Slavs. The superiority of the Jews is due to their intellectual superiority, because the average Jew is so much better educated than the average Russian; and also, I think, to the fact that the Hebrew people have suffered so in the past in Russia that it has inevitably resulted in their cherishing a grudge which has been worked out by the movement.

Chinese Communism?
http://jrbooksonline.com/HTML-docs/chinese_communism.htm
http://archive.is/j9jhk

Communism and the Jews
http://volokh.com/2011/10/29/communism-and-the-jews/
http://archive.is/bBdhk

Communism was Jewish - Communism is Jewish
http://controversyofzion.info/communism_was_jewish.htm
http://archive.is/SRRIz

Communism's Death Toll, and the Jewish Role in Bolshevism
https://youtube.com/watch?v=km6u4L1JsmY

A Jew in Mao's China
http://blogs.forward.com/the-arty-semite/159051/a-jew-in-maos-china/
http://archive.is/zuvnn

>>134837472
>fuck you, i wont do what you tell me
>still supports a government to tell him what to do

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>>134834221
This

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>>134818668
I don't like Nazis, don't like Commies, heck I don't even like Libertarians. I certainly don't like the Republican Party (although the Democrat Party is even worse), and frankly I can't agree with any of the anarchists either. However, the monarchists are pretty great, the American Constitutionalists are some fine gentleman, and the Distributists are the bests of them all.

What I'm trying to say is, you're ALL faggots, except for a select few.

>>134837472
funny how that song was literally written by a Commie band

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>>134837554
Jews and Marxism - Socialism - Communism
http://come-and-hear.com/dilling/chapt11.html
http://archive.is/bzuaa

The Jewish Century by Yuri Slezkine
http://books.google.com/books?id=9QNuiuhPzzIC&pg=PA175#v=onepage&q&f=false

Jewish Communists
http://archive.is/gs9q1

Jewish Founders of International Communism for the One World Order
http://archive.is/FxwIc

Jewish Pre-Eminence in the Political Left/Communism
http://holywar.org/jewishtr/commun.htm
http://archive.is/9GVHi

The Jewish Role in the Bolshevik Revolution and Russia's Early Soviet Regime
http://ihr.org/jhr/v14/v14n1p-4_Weber.html
http://archive.is/kFzh2

Jewish Activists Created Communism
http://truthtellers.org/alerts/jewishactivistscommunism.html
http://archive.is/3Euel

Jews and Bolshevism
http://heretical.com/miscellx/bolshies.html
http://archive.is/it45j

Jews and Communism
http://archive.is/C7rMb

Jewish Bolsheviks
https://youtube.com/watch?v=7lBtS_KBYec

Jewish Faces in Chinese Government
http://archive.is/FDURV

Jews and Communism - The South African Experience
http://rense.com/general85/jcom.htm
http://archive.is/QqhGD

Judaic Communists: The Documentary Record
http://revisionisthistory.org/communist.html
http://archive.is/k41f5

Karl Marx
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Marx#Childhood_and_early_education:_1818.E2.80.931836
http://archive.is/rwTdC
>Ancestrally Ashkenazi Jewish, his maternal grandfather was a Dutch rabbi, while his paternal line had supplied Trier's rabbis since 1723, a role taken by his grandfather Meier Halevi Marx.

Leon Trotsky
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trotski#Childhood_and_family_.281879.E2.80.931895.29
http://archive.is/xMRhM
>He was the fifth child of eight of well-to-do Jewish farmers, David Leontyevich Bronshtein and his wife Anna Bronshtein. The family was Jewish but reportedly not religious.

List of Communist Jews
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/List_of_communist_Jews
http://archive.is/L080c

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>>134837282
>national socialism
>against the church

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>>134837257
>steals wealth
This is so laughable in a revolutionary court, there is no way to steal what never belonged to Jews.

Our law dictates that the right to issue loans to the people comes from the state, and the issuing of the currency supply comes from the state aswell.

Those possessions earned by the Jews are not worthy of mention, those unearned possessions are illegal thefts clearly in violation of revolutionary laws.

The Jews are free to a court hearing to defend themselves against the accusations of the crimes.

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>>134837554
Putin: First Soviet Government was Mostly Jewish
http://jpost.com/Jewish-World/Jewish-News/Putin-First-Soviet-government-was-mostly-Jewish-317150
http://archive.is/uNDV5

Putin: Soviet Government Was Mostly Jewish
https://youtube.com/watch?v=oIeYoF1VhHc

Sources on Jews and Communism
https://archive.org/details/SourcesOnJewsAndCommunism_700

Soviet People By Ethnic or National Origin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Soviet_people_by_ethnic_or_national_origin

Soviets Evacuating Jews
http://archive.is/0rw2L

Soviets Razed Churches, Spared Synagogues
http://henrymakow.com/001913.html
http://archive.is/hcyTf

Stalin's Jews
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html
http://archive.is/WAARm

Stalin's Willing Executioners: Jews as a Hostile Elite in the USSR
https://darkmoon.me/2015/stalins-willing-executioners-jews-hostile-elite-ussr/
http://archive.is/NaSDY

The Truth About Nelson Mandela – Communist, Terrorist, Murderer (With Jewish Handlers)
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2015/06/the-truth-about-nelson-mandela-communist-terrorist-murderer-with-jewish-handlers-3170156.html
http://archive.is/02SqB

Under the Sign of the Scorpion - Jewish Communists
https://youtube.com/watch?v=lZj1emEb1-g

Vladimir Lenin Was Part Jewish, Say Declassified KGB Files
http://content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2077413,00.html
http://archive.is/y5Pr8

Zionism versus Bolshevism by Winston S. Churchill
http://fpp.co.uk/bookchapters/WSC/WSCwrote1920.html
http://archive.is/NpjIj

>>134818668
I'm an adult.

>>134821092
Nation is not a synonym for country. No one should identify with their government instead of their people. The goal of nationalism is to create a government that represents a nation- for example, the artificial borders created by the government in "Austria" were removed by Nazi Germany, as Austria was and still is clearly just a part of the German nation. It's why I don't identify as a "citizen of the United States" (although of course I am one) but I do identity as a white American.

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>>134818668
>socialist
TO THE TRASH

>>134835938
Boom

>>134818668
Commies and NatSocs are not different. They both want to slurp the long shlong of the state. To lick its boot.

I reject your impoverished thinking.

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>>134837858
Church does not equal Christianity.

Debunking the Myths of "Nazi Occultism" – National Socialism was Christian!
http://justice4germans.com/2013/08/07/debunking-the-myths-of-nazi-occultism-national-socialism-was-christian/
https://archive.is/e4g8O

Christmas in the Third Reich
https://youtube.com/watch?v=RMT74PZTtiU

Exposing the Roots of the "Nazi Occultism" Myths, Their Purpose and Perpetuation
https://web.archive.org/web/20160528132742/http://justice4germans.com/2013/08/12/exposing-the-roots-of-the-nazi-occultism-myths-their-purpose-and-perpetuation/

Hitler States that Christianity is the Basis of the Entire Morality of 'Nazi' Germany
https://youtube.com/watch?v=KCwG13K7TAo

National Socialist Germany's Christian Movement †
https://youtube.com/watch?v=0fY1WoIkeAQ

Positive Christianity in the Third Reich - D. Cajus Fabricius
http://balderexlibris.com/index.php?post/Fabricius-D-Cajus-Positive-Christianity-in-the-third-Reich

Positive Christianity in the Third Reich
http://christogenea.org/podcasts/positive-christianity-third-reich-part-1
http://christogenea.org/podcasts/positive-christianity-third-reich-part-2
http://christogenea.org/podcasts/positive-christianity-third-reich-part-3
http://christogenea.org/podcasts/positive-christianity-third-reich-part-4
http://christogenea.org/podcasts/positive-christianity-third-reich-part-5
http://christogenea.org/podcasts/positive-christianity-third-reich-part-6
http://christogenea.org/podcasts/positive-christianity-third-reich-part-7-final

>>134837684
I mean I don't care how lolbertarian you want to make a white ethnostate. I just care about a white ethnostate. You can keep ideologically masturbating by coming up with excuses to stay in a mixed race abomination, but I'll continue advocating for my race, thank you very much.
>>134837719
Hitler lost because he fought almost the entirety of the developed world at the same time, thanks to international Jewry.

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>>134818668
Live and let live.

>>134837819
Distributed power is best power. It's literally how we torrent without getting caught.

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>>134836980
I don't understand this meme.

If the individual and the government agree to have that relationship, they are engaged in an Ancap voluntary exchange.

It's when the government FORCES the individual who does not wish to associate with the government that we have a problem.

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>>134818668
I hate niggers. What else needs to be explained.

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>>134818668
Because, faggot, imagery and symbolism are incredibly important. Nothing resembling a swastika will ever be the symbol of a major political movement. Anywhere. Ever again. Like it or not, (((they))) have run a successful campaign to ruin the imagery and meaning of that symbol. It stands for hate in too many people's minds. Look, I'm fine with it, the Nazis had amazing art and architecture, symbolism, uniforms, you name it. NatSoc needs a rebrand. A new fucking name for christ sakes. Socialism turns people off. Swastikas turn people off. What is the answer?

>Fasces?
>Roman Eagles?
>Lion?
>???

What this movement needs to get people like me to be 'out' with my political alignment...is a great thinker and leader with a fucking baller graphic designer...to rebrand and re-energize the movement under a new name. We can't even keep the colors. Fucking Red? Please.

>>134837981
>Commies and NatSocs are not different.
Well, you're an idiot. Why would anyone listen to what you have to say?

"As a National Socialist, how would you define the difference between a National Socialist and a Communist?"
http://americannaziparty.com/news/archives.php/%3CFORM%20ENCTYPE=?report_date=2011-06-09
https://archive.is/ome51

The Differences Between Socialism and National Socialism
http://differencebetween.net/miscellaneous/the-differences-between-socialism-and-national-socialism/
https://archive.is/80pgh

How National Socialism is Different from Marxist Socialism
https://archive.is/7CUMq

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>>134837550
>muh nap
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvUDVyySzQo

>>134837867
Is returning a bike stolen theft?

The rightful owner of Germany are Germans and Jews have no part of it.

The rightful owners of America are whites and Jews have no part of it.

>>134838079
Sometimes you have to physical remove socialist scum

>>134818668
I don't like Nac Soc economic policies, they have some really bad ones.

>>134819266
bullshit prove it faggot

>>134837858
You don't know anything about nazi Germany do you?

>>134838253
Adolf Hitler and the German Economic Miracle
https://youtube.com/watch?v=FQu3ovIlPh4

Adolf Hitler's Economic Reform
https://youtube.com/watch?v=_r9Z-hTn1r4

Against the Mainstream: Nazi Privatization in 1930s Germany - Germà Bel
http://ub.edu/graap/nazi.pdf

The Economic Plan of the NSDAP - Rodney Martin
https://youtube.com/watch?v=pKnFN8P21-0

Fascist Economics and Socialism of Duty [How National Socialism is Different from Marxist Socialism]
https://archive.is/7CUMq

The German State on a National and Socialist Foundation - Gottfried Feder
http://archive.org/details/GottfriedFederTheGermanStateOnANationalAndSocialistFoundation

Hitler's Coup: The German War Against Globalism
https://youtube.com/watch?v=epw-rISDJSE

Hitler's Economic Miracle
https://archive.is/hTgO2

How Hitler Tackled Unemployment and Revived Germany's Economy
https://youtube.com/watch?v=O99fWf_UIWs

How Hitler Tackled Unemployment and Revived Germany's Economy - Mark Weber
https://archive.is/XKACi

Manifesto for the Abolition of Interest-Slavery - Gottfried Feder
https://archive.org/details/GottfriedFederManifestoForTheAbolitionOfInterestSlavery1919

National Socialist Economics
http://pastebin.com/PPsmxdiK

National Socialist German Economic Policy
http://mk.christogenea.org/podcasts/national-socialist-german-economic-policy-part-1-june-15th-2013
http://mk.christogenea.org/podcasts/national-socialist-german-economic-policy-part-2-june-22nd-2013
http://mk.christogenea.org/podcasts/national-socialist-german-economic-policy-part-3-june-29th-2013

The Program of the NSDAP the National Socialist Workers' Party and its General Conceptions
https://archive.org/details/GottfriedFeder_TheProgramOfTheNSDAP

The Role of Private Property in Nazi Germany - Jonas Scherner
http://aryanism.net/downloads/books/buchheim-scherner/the-role-of-private-property-in-the-nazi-economy.pdf

Social Welfare in Germany - Werner Reher
https://archive.org/details/SocialWelfareInGermany

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>>134818668
B/c any kind of socialism is haram and breeds laziness

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>>134818668
Redditors

>>134838193
>vapid interpretation of the NAP

I see it very clear

>>134838253
you should be castrated

>>134838064
Don't play stupid with me son. Hitler lost because he was ultimately a commie seeking to use state power to devalue the private intellectual property of international Jewry; Namely, that of meme monies.

That is maximum Luddite. You simply can't destroy a technology that's already out there and is working.

>>134838626
>NatSoc
>Lazy
wut

>>134818668
Because NatSocs are race obsessed retards.

>>134838512
>Price Controls
>Inflation
>Shortages
>Betriebsführer instead of entrepreneurs
>Reichswirtschaftsministerium government tyranny of business.
>4 year plans

Not my thing

>>134838035
>the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth.
1 Timothy 3:15

Hitler was baptized Catholic despite whatever temporal/political issue was around the time. The Church has been around for thousands of years serving as the base of traditional European life.

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>>134838729
you dumb nigger we're all in debt thanks to international jewry.

>hitler was a commie

gas yourself

>>134838799
>Kekistani flag
Stupidity checks out.

>>134838774
Every person that works for the state is a fucking lazy cunt

>>134838799
Yes we define ourselves as living beings and such a race.

Should we classify ourselves as word beings or coin beings?
No all of that is tertiary we are race.

We live from our race we die for our race.

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>>134838638
>I'm everybody else

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>>134838908
>Not my thing
Well, you're an idiot.

>>134838931
>Hitler was baptized Catholic
Pic related.
Yes, he was.

>The Church has been around for thousands of years serving as the base of traditional European life.
And interesting how now it's not thanks to years of cultural marxist infiltration.

If the NSDAP won, we'd still have that pro-White church.

>>134838986
>Every person that works for the state is a fucking lazy cunt
Said the anti-White faggot that supports White genocide.

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>>134838799
this is fantastic bait

>>134838638
kek

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>>134838774
"We're in a shitty situation because of other people specifically this group"
nope it's all your fault. You could have prevented it. We warned you. It's happening because of you.

>>134839136
Likewise

>>134838064
>I was just kidding about being a Marxist cuck, I just want muh ethnostate

God this backpedaling is absolutely pitiful. Ask yourself, what is "white?" I don't identify as a Russian or Swede. That's why an ethnostate is a cuck's ideology; you're basically entrusting that the State isn't ever going to redefine what "ethnicity" is if it ever feels threatened. Let's say a number of ethnic Ukrainian-Americans start to make enough money to pose a challenge to your proposed ethnostate government. Now, what do you think COULD happen? Maybe some crooked ethnic-French legislator decides that he doesn't much like this influx of money funding an ethnic-Ukrainian political rival's campaign? Why not just run a smear campaign, claiming ethnic Ukrainians aren't just enemies to the ethnostate, get people riled up, and in the populist fervor use government powers to seize the wealth from his rival, then justify this action as "reclaiming the wealth stolen by the dirty Ukrainians?"

See? It all comes full circle. Now stop buying into the faggotry of Marxism.

>>134839087
If all the land is owned then go to another fucking land or work for someone who has it,is it too complicated for a burger brain?

>>134839218
>Likewise
The difference being, I'm pro-White and you're anti-White.

>>134819266
Proof or die.

>>134839136
>If the NSDAP won, we'd still have that pro-White church

Agreed. This doesn't mean our problem is with the church per se.

They lost to a bunch of commie faggots

>>134839248
>Ask yourself, what is "white?"
A White person is a human being of solely native European ancestry; or a human being who, if they have non-European antecedents, is nonetheless of a physical and genetic makeup that is within the range typical of people of solely European ancestry; or, the child of two Whites.

>>134838937
You're still not getting it. Fiat debt money is a technology.

"Oh noes, were all in debt." It's as asinine as crying about houses not pulling goods to market.

Don't object; Innovate. Only then can you hope to be relevant.

>>134839136
>anti-White faggot that supports White genocide

What?So every person that does not agree with you want to kill your whole race,right?Nazi logic works great...

>>134836396
>modern british are based
that's why britannia is becoming the next 56% hell-land right?

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>>134838981

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>>134839252
>all the land is owned
>go to other land

You don't know what the word "all" means, do you?

>>134839400
>So every person that does not agree with you want to kill your whole race,right?
Yes, because you support the beliefs and policies that will lead to the extinction of the White race.

You're either pro-White or anti-White. Which is it?

>>134818668
I'm a shill.

>>134839387
>dont complain about the Jews just sniff your own farts on imageboards and innovate

KYS

>>134821215
Ave Caesar.

>>134839316
>This doesn't mean our problem is with the church per se.
There are Christians that will side with the kikes against the White race. And of course their ideology is the only form of Christianity that is normalized and promoted. that aspect of the church is the enemy.

>>134829024
Anon is giving reasons for his beliefs, you are not. Repeating his point back to him and saying, "look at what you're saying, gosh read a book." shows absolutely no reasoning whatsoever. Furthermore, he eloquently explained to you what you were doing, and skipped like fucking record.

I think you're probably a Jew.

Because I don't want to have to give a shit about your ideology. You guys often come off as the sjws of the right because that's how extremists behave. Your collectivist shit is unAmerican. Your heros lost to commies. American capitalism beat it.

>>134839400
Yes, it's called being a race obsessed retard as I correctly pointed out earlier, to much immediate rustling.

>>134839496
Complete with binary thinking. The language of retards.

>>134839313
I never said anything of white or anti-white, don't make assumptions.

>>134835069
Wow, I actually pay out of pocket for ally medical expenses. It's not like I work 40hours a week oh wait I do.

>>134839371
Yes, because all European-descended people share the same, culture, heritage, ethnic identity, religion, sing kumbaya around a campfire and just love the hell out of one another. Just ignore the two world wars and how poorly the whole EU thing is doing.

>>134839476
You are implying things that are pretty stupid,how the fuck would be the whole world owned?And if so,just work for a person who owns it and try to buy some land

>>134838157
and you're an idiot for not recognizing the inherent outcome of both systems; authoritarianism.

>>134839659
If you're white your signing off on the death of your people and their accomplishments.

>>134818668
National Socialism is far too Marxist, far too Liberal, far too Revolutionary.

Real question is why aren't you a Traditionalist?

>>134838937
Also, Hitler was a socialist and a 'socialist' wouldn't exist without closet commies.

It all boils down to "should civilization respect private property or not?"

>>134839804
From who? The guy who owns all the land? why would he give any to you when he can just make you work for food and his profit?

I mean the Rothschilds practically own the world.

>>134839711
>Complete with binary thinking. The language of retards.
Of course you anti-Whites attempt to justify your support of White genocide. You're anti-White.

>>134839778
>I never said anything of white or anti-white
So how are you pro-White then?

>>134839842
>and you're an idiot for not recognizing the inherent outcome of both systems; authoritarianism.
Because you think if it wasn't for "authoritarianism" all the races could and would live together in peace...only in White countries of course...

And of course you have no problem with Jews and all the filth they promote.

im gay

>>134839496
I am pro-white ofc,and as an ancap I would support to deport minorities to secure the NAP,something that a lot of ancaps wont approve

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>>134839860
>Hurr Durr
>0101010101010101

>>134839883
>It all boils down to "should civilization respect private property or not?"
The Role of Private Property in Nazi Germany - Jonas Scherner
http://aryanism.net/downloads/books/buchheim-scherner/the-role-of-private-property-in-the-nazi-economy.pdf

>not in the whig party?
>explain self!!!
America 2017 is not Germany 1933

>>134839635
>There are Christians that will side with the kikes against the White race.

Yeah and Christ foretold this:

>Behold, I will cause those of the synagogue of Satan, who say that they are Jews and are not, but lie—I will make them come and bow down at your feet, and make them know that I have loved you.
Revelation 3:9

>And of course their ideology is the only form of Christianity that is normalized and promoted

Christ foretold this as well:

>Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.
Matthew 7:13-14

You ever notice how the disciples are wanting to go after Caesar but Christ always goes after the rabbis instead?

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>>134839804
I dont see how your lolbertarianism is good for the people, how is lolbertarianism good for those without property?

>>134840025
Don't even care enough about anything to form a fucking sentence.

This is what the Jews have done to our youth

>>134839979
>Of course you anti-Whites attempt to justify your support of White genocide. You're anti-White.

Of course you'd defend a critique of binary thinking with more binary thinking. You're retarded.

>>134839979
I think that European nations should stay white, I don't have to be a Nazi to be in favour of that.

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>>134840011
>is ancap
>supports government powers to deport anyone it deems undesirable
What does it all mean?

>>134818668
Im a nigger

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The latent occult shit.
USSR was also steeped in it. Look at the flags.

>>134839531
Do you want to win or not?

Ted Kazenski complained about industrialization. Where is he now?

You simply cannot reject a working technology because you don't like it's side effects. If the world actually worked that way, nukes would have never been invented.

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>>134818797

>>134818668
Because it will never happen,
and it's larping...
Try reality.

>>134836980
what are tolls

>>134840120
Because they can go and procure property via money they've earned working for those with property without having to appeal to the State?

>>134840143
>Of course you'd defend a critique of binary thinking with more binary thinking. You're retarded.
Said the kekistani.

"I want to live among niggers spics and kikes...just as long as they are nice to me!"

>>134840151
>I think that European nations should stay white,
But you don't want to support the ideology and policies that will make that happen.

> I don't have to be a Nazi to be in favour of that.
So how are you going to vote a pro-White government into power?

>Not a socialist faggot on a rightwing board
>Explain yourself

Um because Hitler and the NatSocs permanently destroyed the reputation of fascism with their Christian welfarist faggotry?

>>134818668

You know damn well you're a libertarian OP, and you know how easily this board likes to counter-signal against these threads. You're not clever. I actually agree with what you said. Why a libertarian is on this board is something I don't understand. To subvert? That's my only guess. They should fuck off to facebook and bitch about freedom (whatever that entails).

>>134840138

>Try forming a sentence

Okay, okay fair criticism...

>fkn JOOS

Oops. Retard Confirmed.