What was Breviks impact?

>>134804672
I have a Swedish friend who insists that Breivik harmed the right wing but the facts don't seem to back it up. He claims Norway learned from Sweden but it seems the migrant wave was turned off after the attack and not after Swedish issues.

>>134804672
>It seems he ended mass immigration in Norway, put the left wing party out of power for the foreseeable future, and killed virtually all of their future leaders and destroyed the life of most of the left wing elite in Norway.
How is this? Most right-wing attacks, especially those as wrong as Brevik's, usually strengthen the Left. Brevik killed the people he was purporting to protect from the hordes.
Norway was never big on immigration and was unlikely to follow the Swede path. They are good old fashioned haughty, isolationist, homogenous Nordics who have an easy position on the planet and protect it with strict border control and racial immigration policies, while criticizing the US as a land of Nazis. Typical eurotrash, and it seems Brevik had no effect other than making white men look like a bunch of deranged terrorists.
>I hate foreigners!
>kills a bunch of his own countrymen's children
He's an idiot.

>>134805299
Your absence of insight is astounding.

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>>134805299
This is what I always get. Two polar opposite views. Which is the truth?

>>134805299
>Teach kid sucking invader dick will let them survive
>Kid gets killed doing ^
>Stop doing stuff that gets your kids killed

Takes some high level math.

>>134807221
Well, no one was really talking about the immigration that was taking place before he killed the "future leaders" that were being groomed to take over.

Other countries seem to have escalated the population replacement, while norway seems to have slowed it down for no apparent reason. Maybe because the ruling elite are afraid there will be more brevik's? The west needs to realize it's not the immigrant's fault, it's our own political leaders. Brevik made a decent point in that regard, regardless of what you think of him and what he did.

>>134805299
he literally destroyed all militant leftism in the nordic countries except for denmark which get theirs from germany, not even other "right wing" organizations with thousands of members ever came close to anything like it that was and still is the aftermath heil Breivik

He destroyed the next generation of insane sjw leftists and sent a clear message to their parents. Can't see how he hurt anybody but the left.

Remember the average person doesn't want mass migration and multiculturalism. But all it takes is for a small clique of politicians (<50) to make a reality.

>>134808049
damn.. well that really makes you think

Poopoo

>>134804672
Why does wikipedia use a creepy sketch of him instead of pictures?

>>134804672
He had/has no major impact. Most Norwegians doesn't even mention this faggot anymore. If anything he has proven how shitty our justice system is.

>>134807644
> It’s home to some of the most important sites in Christendom
New government

>>134804672
Didn't he kill 50 white children?

Why does /pol/ like him again?

how bad was the ebil nazi narrative there?

>>134810413
>>134807644

Fuck.


> Other countries seem to have escalated the population replacement, while norway seems to have slowed it down for no apparent reason.

New government. Not in EU, (((they))) don't control our borders

>>134810528
I have heard he killed 50 future commies

Daily reminder that Breivik, like all based right wing Natsocs, was an Odinist/Wotanist (WOTAN = Will of the Aryan Nation)

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>>134810102
I was waiting for a Norgeanon to appear. So the claim above that Norwegian immigration policy changed after Breivik is not true? How is the affected AUF party doing these days in popularity?

>>134810528
Those white children were being brainwashed into allowing invaders to enter their nation unchecked. They were sacrificed by their parents to the leftist ideals. They were beyond saving.

>>134804672
>nazi flag
>loser worshiper
>concerned about culture
>sage in options
getting real tired of you nazi-loser faggots pretending to give a fat fuck about western culture.

>>134805299
>those as wrong as Brevik's, usually strengthen the Left.

Exactly, how did Breivik's actions help the left?

>Brevik killed the people he was purporting to protect from the hordes

We're protecting left wingers? It's no wonder there's mass immigration when you want to protect those that support it.

>Brevik had no effect other than making white men look like a bunch of deranged terrorists.

The only effect you're having is making us look like a bunch of cucks.

It would be nice if we could all hold hands and sing koom-buy-ya, but that's just not the world we live in.

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>>134804672
Well, let's see
>his bomb explodes during hours when nobody is in work
>killed literal nobodies, where thousands of those same kinds of people were ready to step in
>attacked when no VIP was present at the time, even though the schedule of their visits was freely available
>as a result the anti-immigration party plummeted in the pols
>conversions to islam have tripled after the attacks
>immigration became taboo
>his incoherent babbling during trial helped leftards to brand cultural marxism as conspiration theory
>spends his time in pic related
>complains that his Playstation 3 is out of date console

Either Breivik is a raging retard, or biggest false flagger I have ever seen.

>>134810926
What actually happened, is that the only party with a strong stance against immigration dropped 50% in the polls. It gave a massive boost to the left wing and their multikulti mania. Those effects have slowly been going away though. Overall, Breivik has made the life of immigration and Islam critics much harder.

>>134808049
you mean all the awful stuff we keep seeing coming out of Sweden are not a product of militant leftism? how would you label it then?

>>134807644
>it's not the immigrant's fault
Exactly. There wouldn't be any migrants, refugees, immigrants, or whatever they're going to be called next year, if not for left wing whites. You can say Jews this and Jews that, and Muslims did this or that, or niggers or illegals, but it is solely due to the treasonous whites that they are allowed to do those things.

>>134804672
>the left wing party out of power for the foreseeable future,
According to recent polls the left win coalition in Norway will win the 2017 election. also the conservative party in Norway (hoyre) isn't conservative, they are a bunch of globalists who have abounded all forms of classic conservatism

>>134809752
Probably because wikipedia has been infiltrated by Marxists and the sketch is more menacing-looking than an actual photo of the guy.

>>134805299
>Brevik killed the people he was purporting to protect from the hordes.
No he didn't. He killed an entire generation of leftist traitors who were being trained as activists and politicians.

>>134810836
Half of them were shitskins.

>>134811618
>left wing whites

Come the fuck on, leftards gonna retards, but right wingers were pissing themselves with joy at the thought of slave labor that would help destroy the native salaries.
I still remember the interview with the CEO of Audi, the guy was positively giddy with excitement when asked about migrants.
And all of those hotel owners who were more than willing to cram their businesses chock full of shitskins so that the government will pay the bill. Who the fuck do you think creates the pressure to EU governments to abolish minimal wage laws, so that they can hire them for 1 euro/hour?

>>134811425

Isn't Breivik mostly isolated from the other prisoners?

>>134810926
AUF is not a party, it's the Labor Party Youth Organization. Belongs to the Labor party (AP). The organization is still the largest political organization based on members. AP is still the largest party with best poll ratings, and they are most likely taking the power back later this year.

>>134811481
What are you talking about? After Breivik's attack:

"In national elections in September 2013, voters ended eight years of Labor rule. Two political parties, Hoyre and Fremskrittspartiet, elected on promises of tax cuts, more spending on infrastructure and education, better services and stricter rules on immigration, formed a government. Coming at a time when Norway's economy is in good condition with low unemployment, the rise of the right appeared to be based on other issues. Erna Solberg became prime minister, the second female prime minister after Brundtland and the first conservative prime minister since Syse. Solberg said her win was "a historic election victory for the right-wing parties"."

>>134812579
It's a weak minority government, and the right wing populist party got a much smaller part of the vote than they would have if retard Breivik didn't massacre a bunch of kids.

>>134811618
Well said generic fascist bro.

>>134812373
>right wingers were pissing themselves with joy at the thought of slave labor that would help destroy the native salaries
I'd suggest that we need to purge the right wing of capitalists.

>>134812579
In another thread someone said that the leadership of the leftist party said that the loss of the kids set the party back pretty hard. Of course, this is now third-hand info.

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>>134811618
and who programs thoses leftards???mudslimes?...no is ZOG! breavik is freemanson zionist so you work for who you paid f.

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>>134811618
I could point out how affirmative action was a Jewish creation in both Canada and in the USA, how they were the driving force behind opening our borders, how the lawsuits that allowed near unrestricted abortion in our countries were both lead by kikes or hell I could lay out the thousands of hooked noses behind the drug/porn/tranny degeneracy they target our children with.. etc. etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Feminists_by_religion

I think he did a good job. And he archives everything here as well. Good man.

>>134810926
>Italy
>3.7

I guess that map is pre-Soros era.

>>134812752
>the right wing populist party got a much smaller part of the vote than they would have if retard Breivik didn't massacre a bunch of kids.
You're basing this claim on... what, exactly? The fact is that the economic malaise usually necessary for rightwing populism to arise did not obtain in Norway at that time. But then Breivik came, and the right broke 8 years of leftwing governent anyway. What's your explanation?

>>134804672
It's really hard to say. He didn't have a negative impact, that's for sure. You'd expect people to bring up Breivik a lot more in arguments, but its like noone even remembers he exists.

>>134813054
LMAO their youth wing and their party as a whole got a massive boost in membership and in the polls.

>>134804672

He was a great man. I question his methods but his motives were obviously pure.

>>134811425

Nice, and you just have to kill a bunch of people XD

>>134813174
I know all that, but it takes a stupid goy to go with it. See, Ted Kennedy and Philip Hart. Overturning the 1924 law would have been impossible if not for white liberals.

Yes, the JQ is paramount, but we can't deal with that until the left wing mind control machine isn't as strong as it is today.

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>>134813582
The main cuckservative party is not "right wing" in the slightest. They barely lowered taxes. I'm basing the claim on polling data you absolute mongoloid.

>>134810528
>children
Their median age was 20.

>>134808379
Kids are leftist?

>>134812373
>leftards gonna retards, but right wingers were pissing themselves with joy at the thought of slave labor that would help destroy the native salaries.

This is stupid. The immigration wave over the last decades in Norway was 80% left-driven. Everyone marching in the street for immigration were very blatantly far-leftist, the organizations were leftist, the journalists with their talking heads are leftists, the talking heads themselves are leftist. The parties that have been the most vocal by far are leftist.The contribution from the right to immigration in Norway has been relatively small.

>>134804672
Correct

>>134804672
Well:
1. Left got a boost after the attacks in support/membership
2. Breivik was ignored completely from the political debate. Because Norway has a relatively healthy political climate, where neither of the sides would sink that low.
3. He is completely out of the picture now. Only from times to times mentioned when he cries about not having PS4 with the newest games.

Now, did he have some good effects?
- We are much better prepared for terrorism now.
- (speculation) The political leaders of the left might actually be frightened to support immigration too strongly now? He planned to target high ranking politicians, but he got "unlucky" and didn't get any of them. Uncounciously.

>>134814296
>be in an organization led by a man named Mani Hussaini
>kids
he literally stopped another Sweden

>>134809752
Probably because he's a fucking white man, and a handsome one at that, and they want to hide his charisma to discourage potential sympathizers

>>134814296
It's a matter of public record that Breivik deliberately let the youngest children live because they weren't brainwashed yet.

When Norway bombed Serbia, we didn't refrain from killing Serbians on the off chance that children could become collateral damage.

Everyone should see this list of the dead: https://sites.google.com/site/breivikreport/documents/detailed-oslo-bombing-and-utoya-massacre-victim-list

Almost everyone were political leaders, local leaders of their local youth indoctrination branches.

AUF is a recruitment pipeline for the left-wing Labour Party, a number of the most well-known individuals have come from there including Jens Stoltenberg (NATO chief) and Torbjorn Jagland (gave the peace price to Obama). There is no record of anyone from there ever changing allegiance and going right-wing.

>>134810102
I would say exterminating 60+ of the most elite future generation of monsters is having an impact.

Imagine the most psychopathic, evil person in Norway who does the most harm. We "lost" 60+ like that.

Oh, 100+ Muslims went from Norway to Syria to fight and kill Yazidi children. AUF imported far worse than Breiviks by the dozen.

>>134810528
>Why does /pol/ like him again?
For knowing you kill traitor before outside enemies or you lose.

>>134815078
>Imagine the most psychopathic, evil person in Norway who does the most harm. We "lost" 60+ like that.

hahahaha

>>134811425
To be fair, it was a Playstation 2.

>>134804672
His message was revieved by all. They had a manifesto to read, and his act drew attention to it. Who knows how many have read it, who knows what effect it had on them, or will have for future generations.

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>>134814030
>Yes, the JQ is paramount, but we can't deal with that until the left wing/right wing false dichotomy mind control machine isn't as strong as it is today.
ftfy

>>134811481
This is bullshit.

Steinar Lem spoke about how it was impossible to speak out shortly before Breivik.

It was completely impossible to be critical of immigration and Islam before Breivik. It doesn't matter whether it's somewhat less or somewhat more, when it was completely impossible before. Maybe you think it's impossible now? Worst case, it's no worse than before.

Personally, I would say the amount of criticism of immigration and Islam is greater now than before Breivik. Not the least because we got information showing that much of immigration is a net loss, something we didn't have before Breivik.

He gave the mudslims and pro mass-immigration their "Christian terrorist" card in every debate about the Islamic threat in the country.

>>134815163
Maybe you should read this? http://archive.is/wIBIv


We've had our Rotherham at a smaller scale.

Organizing this takes someone far more evil than Breivik. Breivik tried not to harm the youngest, and he even tried to surrender halfway through. AUF deliberately sacrificed the youngest, and show no sign of changing course.

>>134815670
Even though he was a pagan kek

>>134816018
What?

>>134815450
FrP still has'n't fully recovered from it. The more open criticism of immigration in recent years was in spite of Breivik, not because of him.

>>134816195
Breivik identified himself as an Odinist, he said he wanted to uphold certain Christian values but wasn't even religious and explicitly stated he did not have a personal connection with Christ.

>>134805299
He likely killed a lot of future 'Quislings' and probably made present day ones think twice about stabbing Norway in the back imho.
Although terrible, the mission was probably a resounding success in his eyes

>>134816311
What? Source

He identified as a Templar.

>>134816198
Without Breivik, we would never have our "innvandrerregnskap". The entire left wing spent literally several decades fighting against this, and only a few months after Breivik we got one. A few months is the time it takes to make it, so they would have to start pretty much when Breivik happened. Breivik felt there was a suppression of information, and leftists were worried others would sympathise.

FrP is just a couple of percent down from where they were. Meanwhile, Senterpartiet has jumped in the polls, based on a national-socialist message.

>>134816511
http://www.vl.no/nyhet/breivik-jeg-er-ikke-kristen-1.465538?paywall=true

He considered himself like a crusader for European values but was not religiously Christian.

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>>134805299
>Brevik killed the people he was purporting to protect from the hordes.

Wrong.

>>134810528
>>134805299
>kills a bunch of his own countrymen's children

Anti-white white TRAITORS are worse than any nigger or jew.

>>134816511
he really didnt believe in god and what the bible preaches, but he believed in the values christendom brought to europe, and thus the western world, and wanted to preserve it as such

>>134816893
Indeed, he described himself as a cultural christian.

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>>134816601
I don't get the SP meme, they have said nothing about stopping the rapefugees. Also, Vedum seems retarded.

>>134816612
>>134816893
Hmm, then I learned something new.

I think this is a view he has gotten after the imprisonment though.

>>134814479
Wouldnt VIPs have had an armed security detail which would make his job harder? Maybe thats why he didnt attack utoya when they were there?

>>134817628
before the imprisonment , he was alredy like I described, I read that during his imprisonment he has developed a National-socialist view

>>134817630
A former prime minister, Brundtland, was supposed to be there I think (he was going to film her execution). Also the current prime minister was supposed to be in the office I think.

>>134815257
Basically his manifesto turned out to be right too iirc:
Leftists, Islam & corporations (for different reasons) were collaborating to take down their nations

>>134818027
It's interesting to compare him to the Unabomber. Both could see some contemporary problems of the West much more clearly than the average Joe. Both wrote manifests, both bombed people - but the Unabomber blew fingers off of random Academia kikes, accomplishing nothing, whereas Breivik targeted the institutions of leftism and decimated the next generation of Norgay leftist leaders.

>>134819798
>the Unabomber blew fingers off of random Academia kikes, accomplishing nothing
Funnily enough, he seems to have redpilled at least one of them (or bombed a redpilled one, but what are the odds):
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Gelernter
"The Washington Post, profiling him in early 2017 as a potential science advisor to Donald Trump, called him "fiercely anti-intellectual ... a vehement critic of modern academia" and quoted Gelernter's book America-Lite as blaming an increasing "Jewish presence at top colleges" for what he sees as a decline in American culture."

>>134814296
yes kids are capable of forming world views before they turn 18

>>134804672
>It seems he ended mass immigration in Norway
You're fucking retarded, mate.

>>134816754
preach brother

>>134817628
he stated such in his manifesto

>>134819798
unabomber just bombed people to get famous and known so people woud read his manifesto, since he thought it was urgent for people to wake up to what he explained in it

>>134819798
A very strong similarity between Breivik and the Unabomber:

The Unabomber was subject to the MKULTRA experiment. In it, a person was invited to open themselves completely, to pour their heart out. Then, they were subject to an expert lawyer speaking from the darkness relentlessly picking apart everything they had written, mocking and insulting them, whilst they were videotaped in their impotent rage.

Norway when Breivik grew up MKULTRA at a societal scale. He grew up amongst immigrants, he wanted to pour his heart out, and leftist society relentlessly mocked and insulted him, and laughed at his impotent rage. Our media will videotape immigration opponents and their impotent rage is laughed at. It's the MKULTRA experiment as a culture.

>>134804672
>Breviks impact

Exactly as you described it (with too much sarcasm imo), I'd call this 'Hitler's effect'. He was the perfect candidate for a white, right wing terrorist. Neet World of Warcraft player, autistic loser, delusional moron with fake uniform and medals, and outcast with family issues. 'This is how they all are you see, they can't get laid, can't get a job like us normal people do, that's why they jump into this 'Western culture' concept. Let's mock and ridicule those pathetic dumbwits.'

One fucking guy has fully justified every Western state's attempt to prosecute White nationalist on par with Muslim radicals. Instead of 70 dead commie kids with some hard work in 20 years we could have 700,000 dead commies, but no, Mr Masonic templar autist had to have his little ourburst.

>>134804672
I think we should give credit to Sylvi Listhaug(Immigration minister) and a low jewish population for the strict immigration laws.

I also believe, tho no politician would ever admit it, that Breivik scared them a bit, "one outraged lone wolf did all that, imagine if there were 10" etc

Norwegians are natural introverts too(due to geography and winter) and without a massive propaganda push like they have in Sweden its hard to change what nature put there.

>>134810528
Half were blacks/brown, rest white but socialists, also only a few were below 18

>>134810926
The party AUF belonged to (AP) is the largest, and basically has been so the past 100 years or so. But they went from 64 mandates to 55 after Breivik let loose.

Its going to be a close election but I believe the more conservative parties' coalition will be stronger next election, a lot due to the success of our current immigration minister and AP's loss of a popular leader. He went to become secretary general of NATO

>>134823540
The mocking is actually less than before Breivik. Probably they became scared.

>>134814738
>brevik
>handsome
Nah. The fact that they decided to use a scetch when there are thousands of photos of him is however very unobjective. They might as well end the description that anders breivik is evil and we hate him and call it a day. Though I don't symphatize with his actions, the death penalty would be the only penalty that fits the crime. It's however somewhat funny seeing him take the piss out of the soft norwegian criminal justice system
>sues them because he only has a ps2, not a ps3 he could play adult games for mature adults like him

>>134823540
What the hell are you talking about?
Has Breivik really impacted Poland that much, cause he sure as hell hasn't had that impact on Nordic countries

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>>134804672

>>134824271
Well I said 'Western states', and in my worldview that's every country west of Poland's border with Germany.

It did not affect Nordic (North European) countries because your elites (and by 'yours' I mean Norway, Finland and Denmark) realized the economic burden Arab immigrants bestow upon their societes. So maybe that's how they signalled the Left with 'we are not content so we allowed this to happen'. We had many public figures, thinkers on the right side speculating that all of this Templars/Masonic obsession maybe came out of actual contacts with Norway's internal security forces (PTS? PST? don't remeber the name) who met with Breivik at some point and hinted to him that he is in fact a part of something bigger. And that would be enough to trigger the deluded fuck into action.

>>134823451
>The Unabomber was subject to the MKULTRA experiment.

and people still send their children to Harvard

>>134804672
a warning that nobody paid attention to
white europeans are going to be extinct by 2083 at this rate

>>134823571
>He went to become secretary general of NATO

so he's gay

>>134811740
He couldn't save you, he just delayed the inevitable.

>>134826798

they're just marketing another big war

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>>134816754
Cicero was right all along and history has proven it over and over
traitors are the first to die

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>>134823451
An interesting insight. Maybe it's time to just relax and let the hate take control.

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>>134827258
fug
helps if I post the complete quote