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How do I convert my atheist brother?

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How do I convert my atheist brother?
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>>134787192
By asking him how the Big Bang originated
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Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God
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Free food. Free rent. Gay orgy every night.
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>>134787192
Preach the gospel, then ask him how free will and morality can exist.
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>>134787301
Truth has been spoken, for while science can explain most, not this conundrum. Also, a slight problem with God: If he is all knowing, all doing, and benevolent, why does crime and disease exist? Further more, can he make a rock he can't lift, if he can lift ANYTHING?
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>>134787301
That shit never works. All they will say is who created god then??
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Hit him on the head very hard or come up with actually good reasons to believe in a god.
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>>134787192

Why would you want to condemn your own brother to a semitic ideology that would have him kneel in subservience to a false jewish god?
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>>134787192
God is a lie dipshit.
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>>134787518
>If he is all knowing, all doing, and benevolent, why does crime and disease exist?
Free will.

>can he make a rock he can't lift, if he can lift ANYTHING?
Yes, he can create such a rock.
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>>134787192
Offer him a virgin bride.
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>>134787301
You're right, that doesn't make half as much sense as there being an eternal, all-powerful guy in the sky that cannot be seen or heard or detected at all by humanity in any way, shape or form. Hang on, where did God come from anyway?

I'm not even an atheist but that's such a retarded way to convert someone.
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>>134787192
Disavow him and adopt a based Christian black brother.

Deus vult!
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>>134787192
you need to be converted, atheism is the ultimate redpill
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>>134787192
let him learn through his life , you cannot "convert" anyone
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>>134787192
You don't
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>>134787824
low effort larpagan bait
>>134787666
>666
Why should I listen to you again?
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>>134787192
>How do I convert my brother who is smarter and have higher iq than me?


?????
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>>134787824
>le edgy pagan heathen
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>>134788030
>>134788119
He ain't wrong though.
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>>134787192
Kindness and casual witnessing. When he recoils at the mention of God as all atheists/jews do, hit him with love and dont rebut any hate he spews. One day he'll ask why you are kind and loving despite his attacks, always remind him its Gods love you show.
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>>134787192
>what is preaching thr gospel
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>>134787192
see >>134787518
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>>134788097
Fix your English, soulless spook
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>>134787192
Stop hiding your past, ChristChan.
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>>134787192
Put a plastic bag over his head and kill of 40% of his brain cells so he too can be "enlightened" and part of gods plan.
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>>134787192
Start reading him various scriptures.

If your brother is depressed, show him scriptures which can show him that he can find hope and have a personal relationship with God.

If he is anxious, show him scriptures to calm him.

Finally, if you're able, have a meaningful conversation with your brother while viewing the night sky.

I typically bring people out into fields if I'm trying to convert them as there won't be any objects to block the night sky, that way they can feel the real immensity of our universe but that isn't necessary
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Feeling that immensity is both incredible and helps me feel closer to God.

Recount points about the scriptures you talked about before hand.

But just remember, some seeds fall upon good soil, some upon the gravel and some between the thorns.
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>>134787192

Point out the fact that assuming a negative position without knowledge is exactly as fallacious as assuming a positive without knowledge. You can't force feed people what you want them to believe, but you can spur them on to seek for themselves. Just keep reminding him that he doesn't know most of the things that he thinks he knows. If he says he knows something, ask him how he knows it and be prepared to call bullshit on bad reasoning. Humility is the beginning of the journey.
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>>134787192
God doesn't exist, the bible is just a guide to how you should live your life, which is a pretty good guide imo, everybody should live by the word of god, god being an honorable and humble human being. Heaven and hell are just fairy tales to convince the stupid
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>>134788376
I am not good at English. I cannot gix my english
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>>134787518
>>134787774
Early conceptualisations of God could only envisage a man. Science has opened up other avenues of thought but the question still remains; where did God originate from? What is God? Is God sentient or otherwise?
We may never know these answers.
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>>134789113
This right here if applied to a national scale is perfect.
Could you imagine a nation where everyone actually has a sense of community?
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very nice thread
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>>134789113
God the creator exists as surely you do. You should think a little deeper.
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>>134787192
Eight chan has a christian board, you'd have be better asking them
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>>134789113
This is astoundingly shoddy reasoning.

Why would anyone follow the bible and use it as a guide to live by if it isn't backed up by divine truth.

Sick of retards like you that think they can live in a Christian world without being Christian themselves.
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>>134789507
God is whaterever or whomever exists outside of time without beginning or end that was the first cause. Everything put to that test that fails isnt God.
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>>134789507
Furthermore, there is proof of the Big Bang.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redshift
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>>134789936
His existence is owed to generation after generation of Christian men who toiled and worshiped - legions of Christian farmers slaving to support our western civilization and institutions... Just for him to throw it away like garbage because a jew told him to.
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>>134787735
He created free will, and when he did (being all knowing) he knew it would bring evil. Literally created evil and suffering. That is if the Christian god even existed which is prettty unlikely.
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>>134789583
It would be a communism that actually works
>>134789683
I don't believe in god as the creator, its not an entity, there is no he, its the idea of being good, a loving person that spreads happiness is god
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>>134788255
Sanctimonious doesn't begin to describe this faggotry.
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>>134788816
>Gaslight your brother!

Christ cucks are pathetic.
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>>134790163
The atheist argument pre-discovery of the cosmic background radiation was that the universe was infinite in time and not God. The bigbang theory destroyed everything they believed and confirmed genesis 1. Like every atheist does, they twisted their beliefs on a whim to conform. Their beliefs are more accurately "anything but Christianity".
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>>134789936
Well, if god exists he probably hates your way of thinking, you should love others even if they don't agree with you, I'm guessing you are one of those that think 50% of humanity should die because they don't follow your god
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>>134787192

You can't. Once you swallow the biggest and ultimate red pill, there is no going back.

Believe in your Semitic fairy tails, quite ironic given your flag.

>(you)
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>>134789936
Also
>divine truth
Divine lies you mean, as I said they are there to convince the stupid and uneducated, which is pretty effective, a very good idea if that was their plan
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alot of edgy neopagans in this thread. If you dont believe in then leave this thread
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>134790845
This makes you sound like you dont believe you exist.
>>134790954
Love is sanctimonious ?
>>134787518
>bad things happen therefore God doesnt exist.
From whence do you derive your standard of measure? Because you cant live to 200yo there is no God? Because microbial life/viruses exist (that kill children) there is no God? Because you arent a soulless automaton with a determined and blissful infinite future there is no God?

(((Atheist logic)))
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>>134792018
>This makes you sound like you dont believe you exist.
How so? Let me explain, you can be god as in you can be happy. Putting yourself through things that make you laugh makes you happy, putting yourself through things that benefit somebody else that needs it without expecting a reward makes you god. That's how I see it
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>>134790714
He knows everything that will happen -- but that doesn't mean we did not cause it by our own free will. God is omnipotent, but made man free.
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>>134787192
You don't, keep your stupid beliefs to yourself ya cunt.
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>>134792460
Happiness is fleeting and circumstantial - You're confusing this with Joy, the kind only attainable through a relationship with Christ. Joy that you have irrespective of circumstance and tragedy. The peace of God that surpasses all understanding that guards your head and heart from these trivial thing you uphold as the ultimate goal. You are overflowing with pride and its blindedyou into denying creation - even denying your own soul.
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give him mushrooms. let him find god.
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>>134787192
This is the first version of Christ change I've seen without dark circles under her eyes
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>>134793900
You do not know joy anon, you are here with the rest of us.
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>>134793900
I didn't say god was joy or happiness :) read my post I explained them both separately for a reason. Remember that you don't know me anon, you don't know how I feel or why I do the things I do (I don't help others for pride, I do it because I care about them even tho Idk them). You caring about my "soul" makes me smile, even tho you dont know who i am you care about something that belongs to me, you are god, anon
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>>134790714
God didnt create 'evil', James 1:13 even says God isnt the sourse of temptation on you. "Evil" as you picture it stems directly from pride, your separation from God through sin. Why does your freewill upset you? Its your choice to be evil, so dont be, come back to the light.
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>>134787666
Satan here knows what's up
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>>134793944
>>>/x/

We don't need drugs to feel the holy spirit and be enlightened.

Caffeine helps me preach though.
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>>134787666
This
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The best part of religion is doing what you wanted to and then being smug because it was God's idea.
If it was my brother I would beat him with the King James until he respected my authority.
We're not due in Church again until Christmas so I think I'll just beat him with a phone book.
Teach that smug cunt to steal my character and beat me in Tekken.
Thanks for the advice anon.
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>>134794163
Dont be so sure. Is God's plan for you complex or nonexistent (deist)?

>>134794687
Youll have to be more clear then. Your idea of self-deification is common and the majority of atheists have this delusion.
>i care about your soul
Its quite unclear if you are an "empty vessel", whatever remains of your soul is sure to be wretched and tormented though. My love and compassion is for all Gods creation, my be you'll be saved despite your current sad state, i was.
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>>134795237
Who is she, that you keep posting?
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>>134787301
It was an egg. Mommy universe and daddy universe loved each other very much and they made a baby universe.
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>>134793900
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>The peace of God that surpasses all understanding that guards your head and heart from these trivial thing you uphold as the ultimate goal
Nono anon, that's something you say to your regular sinner, if you say this to me it makes no sense because giving money to the poor is not something I do to fake my happiness and flee from god, I actually can't stop myself from giving them money, I try to avoid them because reaching to my heart its way too easy, I can't help caring for them
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>>134795362
Spare the KJV, use the phone book. However, your prideful sin wasnt God's doing though m8
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Christcucks are literally the most autistic people on this board. They believe the most asinine bullshit imaginable and then spam "le fedora" over and over to drown out anybody who calls them out on their bullshit. I don't understand how someone can take redpolls on the daily, but one of the easiest ones to swallow/has the least impact on ones daily life, they just can't get down.

I think it's just a reminder that there are unironically people on this board who got red pulled instead of red pulling themselves. They're no different than normies desu. Christfags get the fuck off my board. This place is for becoming the ubermensch, not your faggy idolatry
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>>134796220
My waifu <3

Jana the Virgin, 27 and going strong!
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>>134787192
Show him how cancerous is atheism.
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>>134796115
>Youll have to be more clear then. Your idea of self-deification
Exactly, what is god? All loving, all good, mighty and eternal. No matter how dark the world becomes, we still have goodness in our hearts, and its so strong it can pierce through species (pets, even wild life can sense good souls). You can become god just as you become happy or sad, even if its for brief seconds
>empty vessel
I don't think an empty vessel can feel the things I feel anon
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>>134797216
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>>134797495
Atheism itself is inherently neutral, it's simply that the strength of social decline lately means many atheists start subconsciously worshiping the state
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>>134797588

Keep spaming your pictures like the good little autist you are. Remember, God wants lambs, not rams. Go be a meek little cuck for your sky daddy faggot.
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>>134796535
Suppose youre the model Christian on the outside that your parents always wanted, from your your deeds to your charity you're compassion has no bounds... yet youre a still an atheist with a God complex. Your supreme arrogance will always triumph, you'll crumple from circumstance sooner rather than later without the support structure only belief and faith can provide. Caring for your fellow man is just shallow idolatry bourne from your prideful self-deification, its selfish inward love not apage love. A means to an end, in your case an endorphine/dopamine response to keep your depression at bay? Dunno but i know your kind well enough.
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Stop trying to convert him to your position.

Have a rational conversation about God and Atheism.

Ask him if he can prove that he exists from first principles.(cogito ergo sum)
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>>134797955
You're not angry with me, you're angry with God. The question is why you reject goodness and salvation, when Jesus literally loves you and wants you to be saved.
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>>134798226
THIS.
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>>134797216
>atheist/jew ideology
How is your anti-Western worldview redpilled?
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>>134787598
Nice
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>>134787192
Simple: Bully him with G.K. Chesterton quotes.

No one can resist Chesterton, because he isn't making a material argument but a persuasive one that speaks to the transcendental desires of the soul.
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>>134798316
Stop worshiping foreign gods
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>>134798710
>stop worshiping foreign gods
>worships Mesopotamian dune coons instead
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Dont force him to do anything. Dont tell him to read the bible. The bible should only be read after he feels converted.

Tell him to check out links from Discovery.org and Reasons to believe website when he has time.

Tell him to watch James Tour Videos on youtube. Like this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_H4ntRloGWU&t=2632s

Good Luck
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>>134798316

Lmao, keep telling yourself that. I am in fact angry with you. I'm not angry with someone that doesn't exist, I'm angry at the men like you who represent him. Your cuckold ideology has destroyed the minds of too many.

Goodness and salvation do not exist in any objective sense, they come from within. Jesus cannot save a single man. God cannot save saves single man. Men can only save themselves. Only from the internal can you truly derive content in your actions. The only reason you follow God is because you lack the conviction and personal responsibility necessary to be true to yourself. That's why you are repulsive to look at, it's why he never answers your prayers. You're no man, you won't fight. You're just a dog.
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>>134798450
Christianity isn't western. It is Semitic. Existentialism, rationalism and the enlightenment are more western than your kike-on-a-stick ideology.

We must save our societies because we know in our hearts and our minds what we must do. God is an irrelevancy.
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>>134798710
I attended a church service there, STUNNING church!
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>>134797216
You are Marxist cancer, kys.
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>>134787676
God is real. Would you believe me if I told you there has been a divine intervention in my life? I am not kidding.
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>>134787192
Provide him with evidence of a god. For example: Create a dimensional portal to gods Dimension. So you can show god to him. Or. Find an artifact imbued with gods power. For example the hand of jesus. If it turns water to wine this will be pretty good proof. Find the staff of moses and part the ocean. This will also be solid proof. Or pray to god and make him do a miracle that can not occur naturally. Like let him create a flying pegasus that pulls a golden carriage. If one of these wont convince your brother than all hope is lost.
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>>134798226
Idk if I should label myself an atheist, I do believe in souls and the more pain you cause the emptier one becomes, I also think that my third eye (the spiritual eye) sees very clear, every time a love one dies 2 or 3 days before I was having dreams of my teeth falling off. I consider myself spiritualy strong but I don't believe in a guy that is above all of us, every living thing is unique and you will only die when you are forgotten, I wish to die as a hero
>depression
Sometimes I feel depressed yes, I do not fear my emotions and believe everything has a natural solution. Everything that brings me pain I can fix it, I just hope if I ever fall too deep somebody will be there to grab my hand, someone feeling like being god
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>>134787192
by not even trying.
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>>134799171
But rational Atheism IS kikery on a stick.

The Bolsheviks enforced militant Atheism as part of their Communism and we know the definitive positives of what is Communism crouched in militant atheism. We know the kikes were behind it so why would you think atheism is any better?
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>>134798316
You're spreading the good news anon, the jew will always recoil in a wounded manner.
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>>134798943
I'm going to pray that your eyes are opened and your heart of stone is softened.

You can have a personal relationship with God and you would be so much happier freeing yourself from degeneracy.

Jesus loves you, Anon!
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>>134799500
Tell us about the intervention please.
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>>134799516
Top kek
I know a better method: he should quote 10-page-long cherrypicked passages from the Bible, that is a surefire way to convince atheists
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>>134799500

This i'd love to hear, not that it carries any weight in proving the existence of a god, I just want the giggles.
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>>134799608

The pushed atheism to destroy the foothold of the Orthodox Church and consolidate power within themselves.

If the Jew intentionally dropped red pills and used the disillusionment they bring on to induce degeneracy, does that make /pol/ Marxism for propagating the truth?

You are like a little baby, clinging to the test of your mother because building your own comfort is too daunting a task. Any casual relation between you and your enemy and you break down, desperately trying to revert to your fetal state. You have along way to go.
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>>134799701
Well this will not help. If he does not have a personal relationship with me he will never find salvation and the path to heaven. Jesus is just something I made up to lead you astray and test your heart if you can see the truth when I call. I do this to everyone btw sooner or later now is now your time has come. Do you accept me the one and only god in your heart ?
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>>134787192
christians are annoying when they try to convert you
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>>134798943
Our belief in God offends your arrogance, simply put.
>>134799171
Western Christendom is where you reside. An 18th century ideological tragedy ( the enlightenment) that has thus far nearly destroyed Europe in a short time is what you choose to embrace, whereas you ignore the 2,000 years where Christian scientists invented everything ( literary ) and drug the rest of the earth into the modern era. Your secularist methods have never accomplished one thing good.
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>>134787192
Tell him to read the varieties of religious experiences by william james
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>>134787192
You don't. Just try to sell the morals and not the story itself.
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>>134789814
Having anti-opinions are good too. Plus eightchan's monarchist board is as dead as hopes for putting back into power.
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>>134799701

Your prayers mean nothing. Waste away on your knees, dog. Howl at the moon, begging for your bygone master to return and fill your bowl. When the hunger pangs become to much to bear, you will depart into the night for the great hunt, just as we all have.
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>>134800251
>it was just a power play
Way to shift the goalposts. Come back when you have a proper answer.
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You people preaching about how "enlightened" Atheism is, DO realize that the kikes are the ones pushing for atheism and secularization right? The kikes would be overjoyed if Christianity ceased to be, as it means that Islam would devour the West, and then they could swoop in to feast on the remains. You are literally playing right into their hands, and you don't even realize it.
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>>134800543
The death of God is a blessing and a curse. Weak men will posit their follies, and they will be cut down. But I have more respect for them than you. They recognize their agency and make an attempt, even if it is foolish. You're not even half the man the cancer of our modern society is.
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>>134787192
you don't. if he's that much of a faggot, he deserves no word from God.

if he repents you can welcome him to the God league.
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>>134787192
Pray for him.
It's what my brother did to get a heathen like me saved.
God talks to my brother, literally. And God told him when I would be saved... and it happened.

My brother walks with Christ.
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>>134797216
atheists are more likely to be autistic than believers.

sucks to be wrong from the very first sentence, you fedora cuck.
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>>134799516
Atheists will always find a new way to deny God, moving goalposts isnt new. You are afterall denying creation while the evidence for it is bouncing off of your retinas as you live and breathe. You dismiss God's kingdom as nothing you dismiss yourself as nothing (sad), and ignore the ping you feel as you blasphemise openly. God loves you, try to forgive him for it.
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>>134787192
Ask this question, worded differently,neutral, with a non-anime picture, on /lit/

Those fags know A LOT about the Bible and religion and philosophy in general. I think one of the most interesting conversations I've ever had was dong that there.
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>>134801603
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>>134801904
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>>134798226
Also
>Your supreme arrogance
I actually consider myself pretty average, make jokes about all the shit that happens in my life to make others laugh, its amazing the amount of shit that happens but sometimes I just laugh and sometimes I just look at the good side, just like Preston from fallout says "at least is not raining"
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>>134800415
It sucks when you're reminded of your sin for a brief second huh?
>>134800866
Pretty much this. Most people who make that argument ARE kikes, save a few very ignorant kids who hate their dad still. Those atheists who recognize the western identity defend the faith.
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>>134801023
Cringe post
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>>134800633
>he says, while simultaneously rejecting the fact that Christian society has been the most prosperous in human history because we followed the teachings of God
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>>134802196
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Ironically, I think god is essentially Richard Dawkins' definition of a meme.
"A meme is an idea, behavior, or style that spreads from person to person within a culture. A meme acts as a unit for carrying cultural ideas, symbols, or practices that can be transmitted from one mind to another through writing, speech, gestures, rituals, or other imitable phenomena with a mimicked theme. Supporters of the concept regard memes as cultural analogues to genes in that they self-replicate, mutate, and respond to selective pressures."
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>>134788119
EMPOWERING
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>>134787192
Crucify yourself in his bedroom
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>>134797253
Jana Marie?? Are you Marie's husband?? I am so happy for her man! Tell her Matthew says hi!
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>>134788400
>sinful
Not if you marry Christ-chan. Or if you don't ejaculate.
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>>134802780
this seems more like islam
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ID pray

Literally shaking
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>>134802620
No, our old society was the most prosperous because it was made of white people and evolved out of an environment which was bioevolutionarily condusive to the creation of strong societies. Christianity was otherwise a footnote save for where it injected itself unnecessarily.

>>134802475
Whatever helps you sleep at night pal.
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>>134803195
>>134802840
ID pray
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>>134787301
i remember reading some shitty theory by stephen hawking about how, given enough time (in this case infinite), something can materialize from nothing.

which is such a bullshit explanation. they're so desperate for the universe to come from nothing.

no matter how humans try to explain it, it always ends up in an infinite loop: if something created the universe, what created the thing that created the universe.

if we are a simulation, how did the thing that created the simulation come to exist? it always comes back to that question.

>>134787192
you can't convince an atheist to believe in God, i don't think. They would have to experience an absolutely rock solid, unexplainable supernatural event, but even then. I don't think you could convince them it was any kind of god

however, you may be able to convince them to support christianity. Richard Spencer is an atheist who identifies as a "cultural christian". I like that idea. I probably would also identify as a cultural christian.

I'm an atheist, but I love the christian culture and the western civilization it helped produce. I love christians more than any other group of people, and love being a part of a christian (even though they say it's secular) nation. and wouldn't want it any other way.

so, you can't make an atheist believe in God, but you may be able to get them to appreciate christian culture/people and prefer a christian society to any alternative.
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>>134800214
>>134787676
Are you truly spiritless in your shit material lives or what exactly?
What makes you say such retarded shit?
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>>134803136
They both share similar ideals (the destruction of Christianity and all those who oppose them), its just that Jews are *somewhat* better at hiding their evil, and having as much power as they do, nobody can really speak out about their ideals, without risking being 'silenced'. Look up Jews and their insane, morbid fascination with scatological processes sometime. It is rather eye-opening.
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>>134787301
If time travel ever gets invented or has been invented in some far off civilization, they could go back in time and start the big bang.

Just try and disprove that.
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>>134803297
Alright burger no reason to shake, but do share some prayers for me. Thanks m8
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>>134804126
The most prideful statement in this thread. You win.
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>>134788119
Why do all the people in the background look like they have an extra chromosome?
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>>134803443

Easy dingo, you just woken up or something? How is what I said in anyway retarded? He made a claim and I asked to hear about it. Admittedly I did make a snarky comment at the end, reason being that these personal stories or revelations tend to come up short.

If you do reply, care to explain what a spirit is? Where it is located? How it can be tested for?
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>>134801659
You base your belief on nothing aslong as you cant present me with evidence. Light is bouncing of my retinas. You act as you have some secret knowledge. Please share the evidence. I am not moving goalposts. Christians never met any goal post. Because they have faith (which is belief without evidence) so there is no evidence.
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>>134787192
send him a gospel tract

The million dollar question:
Will you go to Heaven when you die? Here’s a quick test: Have you ever lied, stolen, or used God’s name in vain? Jesus said,
“Whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.”
If you have done these things, God sees you as a lying, thieving, blasphemous, adulterer at heart,
and the Bible warns that one day God will punish you in a terrible place called Hell.
But God is not willing that any should perish. Sinners broke God’s Law and Jesus paid their fine.
This means that God can legally dismiss their case:
“For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son,
that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.”
Then Jesus rose from the dead, defeating death. Today, repent and trust Jesus, and God will give you eternal life as a free gift.
Then read the Bible daily and obey it. God will never fail you.
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>>134787192
>pretending to care about your brother while following a man who wants you turned against him
>For I have come to turn ‘A man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. A man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’
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>>134804972
You really think you dont exist? A+ delusion
>>134805003
Your standard for evidence rejects the reality of creation, life itself, time itself, this xyz spatial plane we inhabit, subatomic particles, literally anything and everything that shouldnt exist but does. A formless void of nothing is the standard, everything else beyond nothingness is evidense for God's creation that you dismiss outright. So your "standard" is that of a fool's, you have taken God's creation for granted and taken on your own faith that you're some extravagant accident.
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>>134806580
I hate my family too in comparison to my love for God. Its not that you as a Christian should 'hate' your family or anyone, just that nobody could compete.
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>loving a man who lived a millennia ago more than the people that begot you and wiped your ass
>loving a jew more than the child you created with your lover

>Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
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>>134787192
you don't
you leave him alone with your middle eastern desert abrahamic religion, it will backfire anyway and you'll end up by him hating you for it and thus you destroyed your family bound with him, because that's what religion does.. it puts faith above else.
and your flag.. you should know there is no room and no logic for religion in national socialism, which make me think you are an idiot, a chill or props a juden.
go away and sage this sheisse
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>>134787192
Just send him to Jordan Peterson videos on youtube
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>>134806628
Blabla first of all why do you assume that nothing that exists shouldnt be ? Because you said so ? Second of all why cant it naturally occour ? Why does a creative mind have to be behind everything ? And why dont you prove anything you said. I can do the same: subatomic particles time and energy are proof that there is no god. As a true god would have made a much better and more intricate creation. The fact we understand so much is proof that its not divine because its too simple that even our small brains can get it. You are trying to make things look divine while we are on the verge of figuring everything out. The world is not divonely created. Because an infinite god would make a much better world and to top that he could still make an even better heaven
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>>134787192
Doubt their god (them) out of existence.
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>>134806628

>You really think you don't exist? A+ delusion

Please explain. Are you going to talk about my consciousness and awareness being linked to a spirit or soul?

I see you are also conversing with others but i'd appreciate the reply.
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>>134787539
well?
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>>134808140
Spirit is not located.
Where is math located? Don't pretend to be dumber than you are.
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>>134808016
A formless void is the standard though when the big bang theory was solidified and backed up with multiple lines of evidence. Are you denying science? Your second question implies agreement too (that the universe had a beginning) if you werent aware.
>a real God wouldve made the universe 'better'
What standard are going by, you keep doing that. The rest of your comment is just insane levels of pride based on you thinking "we" have become God.

Why do all atheists have a self-deification God complex?
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>>134808140
Do you exist? Im not asking rhetorically.
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>>134787192
You don't, just tell him that Jesus is an option if he feels he needs help
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>>134808443
The universe has a start and end. God exists outside it. Nothing had to create God because the laws outside the universe are not bound by a beginning or an end. God is eternal
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>>134808827

>Spirit is not located.
How convenient. Nor can it be smelled, tasted, seen, touched, or heard.
>"But it is there I tell you!"
Ok.

>>134809647
I exist as much as you do, are we not existing in the same reality? I'm currently typing this out to you on my keyboard for you to read and interact with. Are you suggesting there is some other form of reality, perhaps a spirit world?
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>>134810867
In the same comment you argue that you dont exist though, absolutely fascinating. Are you oriental by chance?
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>>134787774
The Christian version of God would exist outside of the universe. Even if he didn't your argument is retardedly arrogant because it assumes humanity knows much more about the universe than it actually does
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>>134811219

Explain how. Throw me bone.
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>>134787192
1. denounce god in front of him
2. study science and do something productive for a change
3. proof the big bang really happend and was the first thing in and out of space time and there was nothing before and everything happend by chance and go into history as greatest man on earth to all atheist
4. on your death bed tell him you actually believe in god and blow his mind away
5. then hand him your private harddrive with your collection of all christchan lewds ever posted over the past 50 years and turn him into a christian
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>He is STILL bumping these slide threads
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>>134811358
>explain how
Your atheism was the first clue, next your irrational thinking, drone like personality, coupled with the high rate of oriental immigration to your country. Easy guess.
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>>134787192
>trying to convert people
Literally fedorafag tier.
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>>134811782

Really loving the fact that you thoroughly explained how, in my earlier post I argued in favor of myself not existing. Fuck, is this what being baited feels like.
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>>134809394
You are the one full of provide. You do not only claim you have faoth on god you claim that you know he exists and have evidence and then you deem it unecessary to actually provode evidence. Instead you combine a few buzz words you heard on a us space documentary. I was just trying to hold up a mirror. But ofcourse it failed you would never dount your conclusions. Typical religios hybris.You do not know gods will nor do you know he exists.
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>>134801442
So why are christians literally the epitome of autistic screeching?
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>>134801904
Bro, Jesus was a Jew himself.
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>>134787735
If he can create a rock that he can't lift, then he is not omnipotent.
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>>134810501
What created the existence that God inhabits? A conscious being is not a plane of physicality on its own, and God cannot simply be some copout eternal dimension with the conscious as is presented in the bible.
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>>134812538
Pride can be many things, but not that. Humbled piety and humility are the opposite of pride and hubris.. And why do you deny scientific fact?
>>134812388
You claim you're soulless, yet you exist in his image.
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>>134812872
2,000 of jews denying Christ contradicts your implication.
>>134813368
You must be 18+ to use this board
>>134813531
>anime poster making up rules for God
wew
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>>134789936
>Why would anyone follow the bible and use it as a guide to live by if it isn't backed up by divine truth.
Because you as an animal and a process of evolution are on this earth to do two things live long enough to hit puberty and reproduce. The Bible was a very good guide in historic times at living life as living by its teachings heightened your chances of achieving both those biological goals.
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>>134812784
Everything sounds like autistic screeching once you leave you're favourite subreddit
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>>134787192
fingerbang your mom...then suc dic...then you will be woke...
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>>134814428
TIL Italians are animals.
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>>134813668
Which scientific facts am i denying ? Nice strawman. You list a few things and say god did it because it must be like that, you are arguing on the level of a child. You are a good example why following old Legends as if they were facts is retarded.
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>>134813368
>If he can create a rock that he can't lift, then he is not omnipotent
http://youtu.be/s86-Z-CbaHA?t=3m36s
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People have to choose and untermenschen(atheist materials and anti-christs) will make the wrong choice.

Don't think I'll feel sorry for anyone who's frying in Hell. :D
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>>134790714
Evil doesn't exist on its own. Evil is lack of good, like darkness is lack of light, not its own thing.

t. Orthodox Christian
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>>134814023
>Using the image attached to a post to denounce a genuine argument
Pleb tier
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>>134815598
I thought most german jews learned english early and well?
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>>134815706
You will fry in hell tho. Because only Allah can save you.
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>>134816515
How big is your smug anime girl (surprised look) folder?
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>>134816555
You are the jew. Christianity is a jewish trick to keep you docile.
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>>134816590
You were atheist before and now your muslim?
>>134816762
To deny Christ is a jews action. Atheists are jews hans.
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>>134787192
>How do I convert my atheist brother?

Find a way to lower his IQ by about 50 points.
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>>134816730
I don't have a subset of smugs, just a really big reaction folder.
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>>134817081
I wont even explain myself its obvious what i did. I am neither related to a jew. Nor do i hold religious beliefs. You still did shit to prove any god.
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>>134787192
>>134816976
german state at it again....
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>>134810867
>How convenient. Nor can it be smelled, tasted, seen, touched, or heard.
Who smells, tastes, sees, touches or hears? You or the brain?
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You need to make him suck your cock.

That's how father McCarthy got me to convert!

Deus vult!!!
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>>134787518

>If he is all knowing, all doing, and benevolent, why does crime and disease exist?

Crime and disease came into the world after the Fall of Man. Evil exists as good can come out of it.


>Further more, can he make a rock he can't lift, if he can lift ANYTHING?

God can do anything which is logical. That means he cannot make a square circle. That does not mean he is not all powerful, but that your example does not fit into what the definition of God can do.
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>>134790714
why do atheists believe the point of a God is to make everything happy fun time and make it so nobody suffers or dies so they can go on with their pathetic "GOTCHA!" rant about how god must not be loving if people get hurt or make bad decisions.
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>>134817783
You deny Christ, ipso facto you are a jew.
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>>134818398
It's almost like he gave us Free Will to make our own decisions and decide our eternal fate. Hmm.
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>>134817791
>tfw shes a muslim now, been BLACKED and has one nigglet and one muzzlet
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>>134818747
and she still manages to show vanity even in modest attire. Vanity is a deadly sin and more obvious than glutony in many cases. A truly disgusting woman.
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>>134787192
Why would you convert your brother to another Jewish faith??? Fuck off kike.
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>>134822659
Yep, nothing worse than hearing an atheist/jew claim he hates jews while being one.
>>134818536
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>>134787192
Hey guys I need help. I believe in some sort of higher power because existence cannot come from nonexistence but I read the bible and prayed and all I can come to is that the bible and Christianity is bullshit.
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>>134823381
I know you're just trolling, but you probably weren't humbled. The next time you're completely broken to pieces try seeking God's face in prayer asking for strength or mercy. Most atheists just yell in anger at God during these tragedies or personal crisis.
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Watch this go down as you trying to convert him, but then he lays some heavy shit on you, effectively making you an Atheist
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>>134824322
Hadn't had a crisis happen to me in a long time. I live with my parents who are very religious and good people. What I can't get over is that stories such as Noah's ark and the Tower of Babel are supposed to be true, literal stories (Mormon household).
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Oh wow this thread is still alive, you guys like bait more than fucking /b/
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What are the biblical / christian views on violence / war?

I see the degeneracy around me and become more and more sure that the tides must be broken.
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>>134824690
Well as a former Christian turned atheist and reborn I'll say dont get hung up on dogma at your stage of renewing your belief. In your mind it seems youve surpassed the hurdle of the question of "is there a God", he's just not 'real' to you in your heart... mostly because you've not been humbled and broken. Jordan Peterson did a cliffnotes version of the Old Testament from an atheists perspective that might help you, these events (Abraham Noah Moses Adam Eve) all occurred pre writen language (6k 8k 10k years ago) and were passed down verbally until they were hammered in stone. Later OT books wouldve been more historical and recorded at the time of early hebrew (2k 3k 4k years ago). And of course the new testament was also recorded at the time 2k years ago through gospels and Paul's epistles and secular roman accounts.
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>>134827072
Wrath is not yours. Sell your cloak and buy a sword. Turn your cheek. Give no harbor to sin. Take your pick.
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>>134787192
don't worry you have an eternity to try, in hell. you came from the same parent after all.
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>>134787301
The non-retarded answer is to this question is, "I don't know, but it's probably not something sandniggers made up 2000 years ago."

Christcucks' attempts to use intuition-abusing word salad like "exists outside of time" or "all things must have a cause" (which is only the case WITHIN time and doesn't apply to time as a whole) is hilarious. As is their inexplicable leap in logic from "something must exist outside time" to "it's God from my interpretation of this one religion".

Bonus bingo round: "the resurrection of Christ is the best documented event in human history".

Double bonus round: "if God isn't real then that makes me sad/that makes people degenerate." Pro-tip, while these are valid arguments for the institution of religion, they are arguments against the truth of its ontological claims. The way to seriously deal with degeneracy is to exterminate people with IQ < 115, and get rid of universal suffrage, not christcuckery.

Christniggers should be gassed.
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>>134787666
Hail
>>134787192
you are deep in maya
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>>134789683
>You should think a little deeper
Says the christian burger hahahahahahahahaha
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>>134829772
You'd still be left with your Jewish overlords if you exterminated everyone below a certain IQ. I'm sure they'll stop being degenerate because of their enlightenment, though. Excellent plan, leaf.
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>Worshipping the heavenly jew.

Good goy.
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>>134787192
Touch his penis until it gets hard and tell him everytime you play with it, Jesus is making him feel gooood. Everytime he masturbates, or you fondle his penis with your delicate finger tips, pressing firmly on his tip, he will slowly come towards to the lord.
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your beliefs are washing away. As we evolve intellectual we're more prone to utilize science to move the human race. Keep your fairy tales to yourself and accept the possibility of others having a different opinion on religion. Your brother's probably way too smart to not realize every time you try to substantiate god's existence, you always thump your bible, hence using the Appeal to Authority fallacy.
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>>134836011
I can tell by your post's content and your autistic flag that you're underage.
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If God came down from the Heavens and said
>tada! I'm real!
How would you really know it's God? Sure, he may be more powerful than you, even godly...but how do you know he's THE God? For you to know that you'd have to know everything else in all of reality and in all realities isn't also God. And if you have all-knowledge you would by proxy have all-power. YOU would have become the God.

This is what it means to seek God and to find God.
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>>134787192
Become a pedophile
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>>134811340
> Even if he didn't your argument is retardedly arrogant because it assumes humanity knows much more about the universe than it actually does
>LITERALLY ASSUMES THE EXISTENCE OF A GOD
Holy shit Christians are fucking dumb.
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>>134836340
fuck right off, of course you don't use anything but ad hominem. And IQ does indeed increase along with atheism.
http://rosarubicondior.blogspot.com/2014/09/atheism-increasing-in-line-with.html
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>>134787192
You can try proving the existence of a god using more than a book
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>>134787518
>Also, a slight problem with God: If he is all knowing, all doing, and benevolent, why does crime and disease exist?

Just another variant of 'why does evil exist'. Evil does not exist. Read Augustine.

1. Everything that was created was created well.
2. Everything that was created can be corrupted; its good can be lessened.
3. That which has no good cannot be corrupted, for there is no good to be lessened.
Therefore, evil, which by definition has no good, cannot be corrupted.
Therefore evil does not exist in the same sense in which all other things created by God exist.

Evil is disharmony. That which is said to be evil in one context may be good in another.
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>>134837817
always loved his interpretation of evil. no matter how bad, disharmony can be fixed. it's an easy thing.
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>>134787735
>Free will
Free will was given to us by Satan. It was unintentional, was it not? And if your argument is that it was "all god's plan" then tell me why he would create Satan to grant us that free will, when he in turn would be creating murder, rape, pretty much anything evil?

>Yes, he can create such a rock.

How can you answer or prove that? You're assuming he can surpass limitations. So why hasn't he cured cancer?
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