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what is it like living in a baltic country?
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Safe, comfy, white, not plagued by sjw's.

Could be a a little richer, but if you dont work at a supermarket, then you can live a good life.
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Like shit, but we don't really have any prominent cuck groups besides ANTIFA LARPers
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>>134740089
I spent 4 years in Riga and studied at the University of Latvia. It's really comfy and the German cities are beautiful.
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>>134740770
>>134740770

what's the politics like in latvia?

is it true that the wealthy latvians are returning to their folk and pagan traditions?

are people racist there?

how come you guys can't get rid of your russian scum?

how vulnerable are you to future enrichment?
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We are constantly being labeled as Nazi just for pointing out that although Russia was on the winning side, we did not enjoy the next 50 or so years.

We have good internet. ~1800 EUR per month income will set you on nice middle-class lifestyle.

Roads are not Russia tier, but you will feel how your car dies a bit every time you go for a milk run.

People are mostly nice, but we have ton of Russians. Vocal majority of whom demand that russian is made second language. Can't be bothered to learn local language.

Corruption is a problem, but not very bad. Problematic to open business - State revenue services practices will make you either go bankrupt or find a gray-hat book keeper.

Little to no SJW, at least for now. Most of the 'muh poor rapefuges' run out of our country for ones with better GIBS.

You get 18 months paid (~~80% salary) maternity leave. You get 8 EUR / month child support payments.

Have reasonably good schools and beer.
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>>134740919
>politics
a clusterfuck of parties, russians have one party that they rally behind, Latvians have like 5. Thats why the government is stagnating.

>traditions
Why would only wealthy ones do it? Every Latvian holds up tradition to some degree, some more and some less. Our traditions and culture was the thing that kept us out of assimilating into Germans.

>russian scum

Missed our chance in the 90's, now they only whine how great and big russia is, but dont leave because its shit over there.

>enrichment threat
4/10

>>134740953
maternity and child support gibs are gonna get a lot larger next year
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>>134740953
We tend to loose 5 year old kids in forests on random. Police get slap on the wrist for that.

We like to kill wolves and lynx en masse due to ' muh dangerous animuls'. At the same time we have the most legal hunters who like to shoot deer. And by coincidence wolves and lynx do like to eat dear....

Most of our fields belond to Swedes who grow crops.

If you buy second hand car, you will get swindled since every car you can buy is from ' granny driving to church every other Sunday ', while they will fall apart as soon as you pay the money.

Lot of what we call ' pencils ' who drive BMW's and like to show how successfull they are for owning a rust bucket from 1992.

Car sevices are mostly reasonable, but you must be aware of what you are looking for or you will pay twice.

You don't need to tip and no one will spit in your drink.

Have some comfy places to hang out and spend time.

Reasonably safe country, chances of getting nig-nogged in some alley are small.

>>134741191
>maternity and child support gibs are gonna get a lot larger next year

was not aware. even now matternity leave is one of the best. we hope to have child on the way before wife emigrates.

people mostly have their hands in correct places, so can build geodesic dome homes and create diesel out of old tyres.

politics is fucked up. largely tug of war between local corrupt fags, pro-russia fags and soros fags.

beautiful countryside, if you buy a property and fix it up a bit.
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Comfy.
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>Be Lithuanian
>Go to Latvia
>Ask stranger in Russian a question
>Pretends that doesn't see me and hear me
>speak to a friend in Lithuanian
>His senses comes back to normal, and answers instantly
Why you hate Russians so much, Broleliai?
Also
>USSR fall
>Person I know lived in Latvia for long time
>Gets Latvian passport
>Nationality: No nationality
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>>134741586
>>134740770
>>134740897
>>134741484

>comfy
what do you guys mean by this?
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The only major problem is that all of the 1.5k+ wage jobs are in Riga.

If only Kuldīga had good jobs, I'd love to live there.


>>134741624
>lithuanian
>speaks russian

checks out, and you should stay out, l*th
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>>134741671
Coastal, nice cities, no nig-nogs.
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>>134741732
1.5k per week jobs?
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>>134741871
no, we're not australia, 1.5k a month
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>>134741871
It's Latvia that we are talking about.
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>>134741191
>Now they only whine how great and big russia is but don't leave because it's shit over there
So like turks?
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Estonia is comfy, haven't been to any of the others

nice cities, all white people, etc.
Eastern Europe will be the last bastion with how fucked Western Europe is
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>>134741903
>>134741927
wtf?

1.5k USD PER MONTH? surely this is after taxes or some shit?
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>>134740089
Lithuania:

The country is being ruled by mafia. Corruption is disgustingly high. Politicians are doing everything and for everyone except for the majority, us the citizens. Wages are really low, prices high. We travel en masse to poland and latvia to buy goods. The same lithuanian good, that is exported to europe is cheaper there than if you would buy it here in Lithuania. Reaching record numbers of emigration because our "newly" elected goverment is creating laws and legislations that completely ignore the public, they dont even hide it anymore. Our national simbols are being destroyed by the incompetence and the gov would rather talk about how we should for the 5th time tax alcohol even more. Middle class is literally non existing here. You either are a hobo who thinks that he lives ok, or are you rich. Income inequality is one the highest in europe. In Lithuania, prices are increasing the most compared to the rest of europe, while wages stagnate.
Hey, but at least we have no immigrants, am i right bros??? xDD
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>>134741927
>>134741903
Sorry, I don't know what eastern euro funny money is worth. Although that looks like a lovely town
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>>134740089
I went to Estonia and iyou could clearly see who was a slav and who wasn't. No disrespect, just pointing out that they are different people.
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>>134740919
>is it true that the wealthy latvians are returning to their folk and pagan traditions?

this is interesting question. there is a lot of ' shaman this, pagan that, and tradition other' clubs springing up. judging by the people who join mostly due to the fact people just don't know what will happen in the future and hope that traditions will help them understand how to act / be when DOTR comes.

racism. ask russians and they will tell we are nazi bastards out to get them. amongst people I mingle with - you can be whomever you like as long as you don't push your shit to me and my family.

problem with russians is twofold. one - old fucks who have been here for most of the life and who don't want to learn language and integrage. two - we are not really encouraging them to do so. also, they have non-citizen passports.

enrichment probably will not happen for a time - we are too small potato.

>>134741671
>what do you guys mean by this?
if you know how old German cities feel like and if you like that feeling, then you will be comfy here.

>>134741732
>The only major problem is that all of the 1.5k+ wage jobs are in Riga.
not quite. there are quite a few IT oriented jobs in other bigger cities as well (for everyone else 'village at most' ). you either are in one of the industries we are good in (like IT, chemistry, some niche production) or you are stuck with bad job.

>>134741871
>1.5k per week jobs?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. no. 1.5k - 1.8k per month is very good job here. and you can be reasonably good middle class.

>>134741978
>Estonia is comfy, haven't been to any of the others
Esonia is most differnet from two other states. They like to think they are like Findland. We like to think they are slow.

>>134742021
>surely this is after taxes or some shit?
yes, 1.8k after taxes is 2.5k before taxes and costs your employer something like 3.5k
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>>134741732
I'm not Russian by any chance, 100% Lithuanian. I grew up in Birzai region, not often you can meet a Russian here. The fact I know Russian doesn't mean I like/love/am Russian. It's mandatory second language in Lithuanian school. In Lithuania you get teached English and Russian. How other way you suppose for Lithuanian to talk to a Latvian?
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>>134742095
>They like to think they are like Findland. We like to think they are slow.
kek
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>>134741938
Exactly, only they drink more, commit more crime and smoke some weird russian weed that is mixed with chemicals.

>>134742021
Things are a lot cheaper here to match the wages, America has higher wages and higher prices.

>>134742095
I've got a place in my family company that has large salaries compared to the rest of the country, but its in Riga, so he most I can do to escape the city is to live in the close municipalities.

>>134742160
Lithuanians come here to steal cars and tractors, also scam pensioners.
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>>134741978
interesting that my flag shows USA, I'm in finland

>>134742095
maybe that's why I like Estonia, but I think I'd like the other baltics as well
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>>134742021
>>134742082
The thing is you look at wages as westerner here and might think we are poor but that is not the case, sure we aren't as rich but not as poor either, our products cost MUCH less here then american products, we have much more purchasing power here then we would have in america.Being raped by commies for 70 years put a scrach on us but we are healing and FAST one of fastest growing economies in Europe, i can see that in my hometown as well, new bars, new shops, new roads, new cafees, and so on.
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>>134741671
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>>134742524
I wasn't making fun of you, just wondering. You know some currencies like Hungarian monopoly money is like 8000 to 10 USD or whatever, so I thought maybe 1.5k Latvian shekels could be whatever in American dollars.
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>>134742160
>How other way you suppose for Lithuanian to talk to a Latvian?

if the person you are talking to is under ~~35 English. A lot of young people in Latvia don't learn Russian anymore, or know only cyka blyat. Older people will switch to Russian automatically.

>>134742298
>smoke some weird russian weed that is mixed with chemicals
oh right, there was that epidemics. quite a lot of young people messed up their health with that. For anyone interested it was 'spice'.

>>134742298
>close municipalities
Marupe is for stupid rich idiots from the bubble. Jelgava is too many ruskies. Kekava is nice. Valdlauci is very comfy. Ikskile is also very comfy.

>family company
Interetsing. Bread? Beer?

>scam pensioners
well... if you can convice some old geezer to part with 5-10k EUR just by calling in the middle of night and saying 'your grandson had a boo boo', although said geezer does not have a grandson...

Don't forget they like to ' fix up cars ' and sell them to our people ' straight from Germany (tm) '.
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>>134742298
>Lithuanians come here to steal cars and tractors, also scam pensioners.
They do same in Lithuania sadly. Heck, last time scums stole 4 car batteries/bike and etc from me(We use them for electrifying fence for cows). Go to sleep, it's there, wake up, it's not anymore.
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>>134742663
We use Euro as our curency since 2011 i think, but yes as i said we can but here 2 times as much products here for 100 euros then average german can buy stuff in germany so, it's not as bad as it seems, i even know one german guy who moved here, he says it's comfy.
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>>134742663
>so I thought maybe 1.5k Latvian shekels could be whatever in American dollars
We had Lats, which was most valuable currency in the world and looked nice. At one time 2 dollaridos was less then 1 Lats. It was fun to buy stuff from Amazon US.

Now we have shiteuro. If you can cook, then you can feed your self with home cooked meals for some... 50 or so EUR a week. Rent is like 200 EUR per month. 100MBps unlimeted internet over otpical line - 15 EUR. Unlimited 4G mobile data - 10 EUR.
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>>134742663
We use Euros now, when Lats were a thing, it was quite the currency. I think it used to be like 1 lats = 3 usd.

>>134742666
I have a big summerhouse in Carnikava that my dad and granddad put all their money in before dying.

Also Jelgava is a city.

>Bread? Beer?
Nah, Its really specific, dont want to dox myself.
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>>134740089
>baltic country
The only real country on the Baltics is Lithuania, Estonia and Latvia are typical non-countries.
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are the politicians mostly anti-refugee?

does it get very cold and lots of snow?

do you guys feel more like nordic country? germanic? slavic?
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>>134741871
>>134742021
h-haaa, j-just 1,5k EUR per month. p-poorfags, am i right
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>>134742832
>Rent is like 200 EUR per month. 100MBps unlimeted internet over otpical line - 15 EUR. Unlimited 4G mobile data - 10 EUR.
Damn. My internet would be like 40 Euros for 15MBps and another 50 Euros for 2GB per month 4G. Maybe I'm the poor one. Although I live in the middle of nowhere so there's that.
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>>134742933
>do you guys feel more like nordic country? germanic? slavic?
Estonia feels Nordic and Finnic. Latvians like to pretend they have a German heritage but they have driven out their Germans in the early XXth century. Lithuanians mostly feel suicidial.
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>>134742666
>if the person you are talking to is under ~35 English.
I know that one, that's why I was talking in Russian. because she was like ~40. In Lithuania it's pretty much same age barrier for English/Russian, not counting gopniks who can't speak neither in Lithuanian, Russian or Polish well, and majority of them steal/scam and etc.
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>>134742918
Explain your claim please, we won our batle of independance have our own culture/language and ethnicity.
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>>134742933
>refugee
the russians and liberals are pro
nationalist against
farmers dont give a fucm

>snow
yeah, i think the coldest was around -25°c this winter

>le feels
We're Baltic, but if we have to choose, then I'd say we're the closest to nords, then germans

>>134742997
hello, 200EURpermonth-garia
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>>134742997
We are still better off then you though.
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>>134742933
2 weeks per year you have +35, 2 weeks per year you have -35. Snow can be none on one day, and up to your dick the next.

It's less anti-anything more like they don't want to come. We were given some quota, who ran away as soon as they could for ' more gibs ' to other countries. They do get monitored the shit out of though. And they do like videos of chopping heads and beating kids.

>>134742933
>do you guys feel more like nordic country?
a lot of businesses feel that LV/EE/LT is like poor nordic countries - you get good quality for way less money. not sure if we feel to be nordic. LT / LV had a lot of common ancestry, even lot of words are still the same.

>>134742997
>p-poorfags, am i right
it's not amount of shekels, its about how much you can get for them.

>>134743036
>Although I live in the middle of nowhere so there's that
You can get 4G in ' 99.7% of the country ' here, althouhg, if you are in the middle of nowhere, you will have good speed only until some other people start to use it.

>>134743129
>gopniks
gop-stop, I remember that one.
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>>134743111
>Hungary
>Talks shit
Okay
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>>134742160
Russian is in no way mandatory. We learnt German as second foreign language.

Most people who lived during the occupation speak ruski because it was actually mandatory then. Now almost
everyone under 25 knows only English
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>>134743276
>Lithuanians are our brothers meme

We were seperared from 1300 till the 1900's. Our similarities end with the common language group.
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>>134740089

How are Germans seen in the Baltics? (I mean actual Germans, not Nu-Germans.)

Is it true that Estonians are Nazi apologists?
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>>134743314
Finno-Ugrians are white:
Confirmed.
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>>134742021
Nigger I get 400 a month and get by.
Anyone who earns 1.5k is Rich as fuck and can afford basically every luxury
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>>134740089

Also, what's the point of being separate countries if you have the population of a city?

Why not unite into a Baltic Federal Republic [of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania]?
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>>134743417
I said it wrong, you're right.
Second language is mandatory, but most common is Russian, and German far second to that. Sadly I didn't get a chance to choose German, because it was a small school
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>>134743509
>Nigger I get 400 a month
>lithupoors
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>>134743437
We used to hate Germans up to WW2, then they became our brothers in arms. We even did a language purge for Latvian to remove most of the German from it, since literal Latvian was composed by a German priest.

Nowadays, I dont think we really care, although the huge tourist groups in the center can be annoying sometimes.

>>134743536
Three languages, two cultures, nationalism
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>>134743583
Eastern Europeans have more access to essentials like education and health care than Americans, despite being far poorer.

Just think about that for a second.
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>>134743509
>>134743672
This
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>>134743672
>being too poor to afford health care or educations
>needing big daddy government to take care of you
>2017
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>>134743140
Pleane name one Latvian king, or saint, or any country in the middle ages run by Latvians.

>>134743314
Fucking Mongols.

>>134743604
>since literal Latvian was composed by a German priest
kek
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>>134743604
>then they became our brothers in arms
What the hell are you on about? The forest brothers would hang you by your balls for saying that.
Stop projecting your "MUH GOOD GERMS" cuckery upon the rest of us.
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>>134743742
That doesn't affect me, my 56% white friend. Neither does it affect most Europeans. It affects many of your citizen.

You measure your wealth by GDP, which is inflated by your ridiculously expensive health care. We Europeans measure our wealth by the amount of things we actually have.
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>>134743978
GDP has nothing to do with healthcare my muslim friend.
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>>134743417
>Russian is in no way mandatory. We learnt German as second foreign language.
I had a chance to do either Englsh-Russian or English-German. I went with former, since I knew Russian a bit already from Saturday morning cartoons. Not saying I'm proud of that decision.

>>134743421
>We were seperared from 1300 till the 1900's
Gee, I wonder why? Oh, right, those German bastards pushing the carpenter's agenda. If you compare the ' traditional ' things there is a lot of similarity.

>>134743536
>Why not unite
But Germanbro, there was a plan to do such thing (LT + LV). It fell appart due to stupid shit. also >>134743604
Don't forget those idiots in Latvia who think their dialect is seperate language.

>>134743672
>like education and health care
state health care is beyond shite and you will die if you have serious condition.
educaton is ok-ish.

>>134743809
>Pleane name one Latvian king
Jersikas Visvaldis (first word is place, second is his name).
>>134743809
>or saint
there official reports addressed to pope that ' those dirty bastards ' in Baltics have more advanced religion then one they were shilling for at the time.
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I don't know about Estonia, but avoid Latvia like the plague. Subhuman russian language is more common than their "official" one.
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There was a time when we and Latvians were such bros, inseparable, but here we are at each others throats?? WTF HAPPENED
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>>134741978
The sad thing is that were small countries with Russia as a neighbour. During soviet times eastern europe was filled with russians, we've got a lot of them lot of them are OK folks but a lot of them are total retards howling on muh oprression evil nazis and shit talking about glorious Russia but not moving there. Some of them are even waving bloody commie flags for fuck sakes.
And OK nor not the Russian administration will use them anyway as an excuse to mess with other countries business talking about protecting fellow russian interests* and stuff like that. Alway ready to "le liberate".
Thats why we suck up to Western powers like NATO and EU - unforntunately EU is trying to "enrich" its member countries as you all know luckily we're poor,cold and unknown place so the enriching elements do not want to come here and tend to leave soon anyway.
So here we are stuck in the middle of "liberation" and "enrichment".

* the disturbing thing is they call russians and russian speakers in other countries "compatriots". (Fellow landers?) So anywhere someone even remotely russian related steps is automatically Russian clay? It is very ironic how they call other people nazi-s and iperialists if they want to keep they'r small countries not becoming part of Great Russia. I cannot fathom the hypocricy - its probably that the popular words nazi,faschist and imperialist doesn't have any other meaning than "poopo-head" for these guys anyway.
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>>134743583

It's an unqualified job.
200 € rent, 150 for food 10 phone plan with 4 GB 4g , 15 for 200mbps internet.

Yah I get by. End game is to earn 1k+ for very comfy life
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>>134744071
It does. The cost of health care services produced flows into GDP.
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>>134743604
Soviet Union wanted to dissolve us into their 'peoples republics' and they did. And then Russification happened.
Nazi Germany wanted to dissolve us and form Ostland. Germanification would follow suit.
Stop sucking occupant cock.
>>134744177
Agreed. Stay away from this shithole.
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>>134744087
>House: Rurikids
>Vassal of the Principality of Polotsk
>Son of the Duke of Polotsk
>some swamp-dwelling bandit who owned a hillfort
Holy shit, and I thought you can't get any better than the "Slovakian" Greater Moravia.
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Wages are quite low but prices are much lower (not if you're trying to buy a pc or a car though). Pretty comfy, everyone is chill, piracy is very common and cops don't give a damn about that. Really nice elderly and the common folk, but the most of villagers are kinda dumb.
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>>134744274
Latvia: young country inferiority complex + tons of Russians
Lithuania: suicide issues due to the glorious past and shitty present I guess.
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>>134743536
Becouse we are realy diferant, culturaly.
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>>134743809
>name one Latvian king
easy - Namejs
>country in the middle ages
easy - Tērvete
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>>134743437
I personaly like germans but most of Latvians (who know History) feel a bit hateful towards them for northern crusades and 700 years of slavery that being said most of them don't hold any bad against modern day germans, if you would move here no one would hate you, we aren't Poles.
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>>134742032
t. Riomerio studentas


>the country is being ruled by mafia
The country is "being ruled" by dumb fucks who vote for other dumb fucks.

You sound like a little whiny faggot.
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>>134744367
t. "HAHA I'M SO MUCH BETTER THAN YOU, TINY NATION! HAHA"
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>>134744689
>700 year slavery
shit Ulmaņlaiku meme

serfdom started only in the Duchy of Courland
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>>134744689
>don't hold any bad against modern day germans
Germany literally wants to replace us with niggers and ragheads in our own nation. WTF are you smoking?
Andybody who knows even a bit of foreign politics hates Germanistan with a passion.
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>>134744698
kasdienis priminimas kad brazauskas komunistas o (((lansbergis))) vagius yra ir paksas nekaltas
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>>134744367
>some swamp-dwelling bandit who owned a hillfort
kek. well put. then again, those swamp dwelling bandits and 'kursi' were people whom Vikings were afraid of. One of methods they liked for torture was to cut your stomach open, cut your intestine and attach it to large oak, then beat you until you ran around and wound your intestine on it. then your ran out of intestine and fell down. Also, no hate the small nation.

>>134744462
>piracy is very common and cops don't give a damn about that
unless you are a company. then they tear you a new one as soon as they find that out.

>>134744698
>by dumb fucks who vote for other dumb fucks.
I remember we got ' priest party ' some years ago who was led by one of the upstart oligarhs.

>>134744846 look at this >>134742863
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>>134744918
?
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>>134742933
>are the politicians mostly anti-refugee?
We aren't as anti-refugee as Poles/Hungarians but not as pro as western euros neither,we are something in between and that is only becouse of EU gibs that being said we don't have any, refugees.
>does it get very cold and lots of snow?
Last years it's been warm, wintter can be as rough as -25C at times though.
>do you guys feel more like nordic country? germanic? slavic?
Fuck the SLAVS and fuck the NORDKEKS (except finland) we are our own thing desu.
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>>134744595
Namejs
>https://en.wiki.ng/wiki/Nameisis
>he is sometimes referred as semi legendary ruler in Latvian historiography
Tērvete
>another fucking HILLFORT of a "semi legendary" king
As shit our history has been in the past 500 years, at least we have another 500 of it as a real, European country (and then some centuries before that as steppe nomads). Though at least you haven't tried to find some ancient empire/kingdom as your ancestors to justify your claims to be a country.
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>>134743150
sounds like between the russians and the liberals you guys are kinda fucked
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>>134744881
It's their govermant, that is to blame just like we have Ushakovs at power.
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>>134745067
>as a real, European country
What makes a country 'real' or not?
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>>134744918
>kek. well put. then again, those swamp dwelling bandits and 'kursi' were people whom Vikings were afraid of. One of methods they liked for torture was to cut your stomach open, cut your intestine and attach it to large oak, then beat you until you ran around and wound your intestine on it. then your ran out of intestine and fell down.
See, I've always wondered why the Baltic countries have such a high murder rate. Especially Lithuania, which has the highest and has the least amount of Russians. Now I'm starting to understand.
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>>134745108
Not realy, all people i know held anti refugee wievs, i haven't yet found a single person who would whant them in.
also pic related
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>>134741671

If Europe was a one country and countries were cities, Baltics would be a nice village. It's small, quiet, clean, orderly. There's trees in the cities, you can walk everywhere. Comfy.
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>>134741671
Oh, and most importantly: no niggers/muslims/commies/SJW's
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>>134745256
We got an independent Kingdom in 1000 AD. We count the foundation of our state from that date, even though we have owned the Carpathian basin for more than a century before that, but we were busy raiding all of Europe or fighting as mercenaries on horseback to care about shit like statehood.
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>>134740919
>their folk and pagan traditions?
Ah, almost forgot. We have a lot of what we call 'castle hills' - supposed places where castles have been. If you count them, then there would be too many castles. Popular theory is that those hills were used in various cool pagan rituals. What is more interesting - in recent times some unknown people have started to steal dirt from these hills in large volumes. As in they dig large (some 5 by 5m pits) and take all the dirt away.

our pagan religion was prominent with fact that we knew very well what Devil is. There are quite a lot of folk stories about how Devil gets tricked and ends up with short stick. Also a nice flag with Devil in cage and being laughed at. And some letters / reports to pope how pagans have better understanding of some of the concepts carpenter came up with.

>>134745171
>we have Ushakovs at power
and reason is fact that we have ton of small parties, while russians have one.

>>134745264
yeah, and you manage to bleed even while playing water polo. we all can say mean things about each other if we want.
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>>134745067
youre on the spectrum

>>134745108
the liberal party just crashed and burned, the only threat are old commie farmers who just want more money for themselves and russians
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>>134745437
>history lessons
And here I was thinking that it's having ones own separate language, culture and ethicity today that makes it so. But of course only your historical elite denotes if you're real or not.
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>>134745663
tell me more about how your liberal party crashed and burned

as you may have heard, our liberal party is also crashing and burning in USA lol
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>>134745264
The jews fear the Balt.
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>>134745665
>But of course only your historical elite denotes if you're real or not.
At least you have learned something important today.
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>>134745752
Got caught stealing and laundering money right before the elections.
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>>134740089
it's great https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdI5y3iwhLU
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>>134745845
t. WE WUZ
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>>134745814
Wasn't Lithuania the first country to be declared "Judenfrei" due to the helpful assistance of the local paramiliaries?
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>>134745752
It all started when the old PM JUSTed a reform and resigned and then it was just downhill for the whole party thanks to a single redhaired cunt who wanted to grab the country for herself.
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>>134745388
you don't have refugees for the sole reason that refugees don't even want to come to your poor ass country. not for the lack of trying by your corrupt government to shovel refugees there.
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>>134745906
It has 'slav' in the title dumbass.
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>>134745845
So basically if a country has been around for enough years, its considered real according to you.
So Latvia is now in a process of becoming a real country.
so why the hate?
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>>134745906
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>>134740089
Poor and cold, but at least you always know who is responsible for that.
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>>134745943
>single redhaired cunt
I keep wondering how her nipples look like and is the cunt redhaired or not
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>>134744490
Just what the fuck is wrong with you?Seriusly i havene seen you on multiple times talking bad things about Baltics, if we aren't real countries then what is the point of you talking shit about us?
Tell me mybie this is 4D chess to protect us?Anyhow you are only helping us not to be enriched by saying shit about us.Thanks i gues.
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Oh shit I'm late for the party
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>>134746167
>Cold
Said norway
but yeah we are poor when compeared to you.
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THERE IS LITERARY NO FOOD

WE ALL LIVE IN MUD HUTS AND THE NATION-STATES ARE DE-FACTO CONTROLLED BY WARLORDS

PEOPLE ARE ILLITERATE AND SADISTIC

EVERYTHING SMELLS LIKE PISS AND SHIT

FOREIGNERS GET MUGGED AND RAPED ON REGULAR IN BROAD DAYLIGHT

IT'S JUST AWFUL

do not come here.
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>>134746329
Yeah Janka ur late bruh.
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>>134745918
You have no idea about the WE WUZ theories some of our fringe groups claim. We wuz Sumerians and Etruscans n shiet. Our Hunnic origins used to be disputed due to the prevalence of the Finno-Ugric theory, but recent DNA studies showed that the Hungarians conquering the Carpathian basin had East-Asian, Nordic, Caucasian and Slavic admixture, so them being Hunnic remnants reconquering their former clay is quite possible.

>>134746034
I don't really hate Latvians, but they are the most butthurt from the three Baltic countries and their history makes them an easy target for semi-shitposting. Also enough years is not everything, the USA remain an artificial abomination despite how long it lasts. Same about Romania. And in case of Germany I'd prefer them returning to being a bunch of bickering states for the good of Europe.
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>>134746400
>literary
i think you mean literally my baltic friend
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>>134746400
a...a....anon you don't whant to get culrualy enriched?
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>>134745491
>and reason is fact that we have ton of small parties, while russians have one.

You have to realize that Ushakovs is puppet.
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>>134746400
YES, AND WE ACCESS THE INTERNET THROUGH CANS ATTACHED TO STRINGS
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>>134746400
This. Keep out, stay out and never come here.
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>>134744918
My previous school computers had cracked ms office and an anti-virus. Even our IT guy/man had cracked and pirated games on his work pc.
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>>134746400
hahahaha
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>>134746522
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMx8hKfzWkI
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>>134746486
SORRY I AM AN UNEDUCATED GYPSY LIKE EVERYONE HERE
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>>134746306
I never said Lithuania is not a real country. And their high suicide and murder rates are an unfortunate truth. Just like your butthurt inferiority complex stemming from your history.
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>>134746473
>>134746634
Okay and what do you want us to do exacly?
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>>134746522
>Ushakovs is puppet
so where is the single to vote for non-pro-russia puppet?
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>>134746400
lmao
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>>134743509
>Nigger I get 400 a month and get by.
wtf, i got 9 grades of education and i make 1200€
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Gib eurobux
DO NOT gib refugees
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>>134746596
Not surprised tbqh
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>>134746742
are you new here ?

Have you've been to any Riga mikro rajons ? Purvciks Zepciks etc... those people eat Russia on breakfast and go sleep with that, they genuinely believe that Usakov is savor of Russian folk and shiet. And here we are same face in charge.
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>>134742524
>our products cost MUCH less
maybe thats a latvian thing, here its nordic tier pricing
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>>134746801
fak of you no balt anymore
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>>134746400
To be fair, rape tours to your country are popular here. Also human safari. Some warlords charge a bit high, but the experience is worth it.
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>>134746727
Idk, either unify with Lithuania or reform the Livonian Order and declare a Crusade againts the Russian schismatics.
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>>134746473
Because we just want to be left the fuck alone, yet its our destiny to be the crossroad of nations
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>>134746727
Become part of the mothalaand of course. He is a diaspora agent.
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>>134746923
Alcohol is fucking absurd now. I live near Valga and a lot if not most of my friends and family go to Latvia to just go and get beer. Prices here are still cheap compared to the west, though.
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>>134746944
>Belarus thinks he would have enough money to fuck with tha baltics
Dude your making even us look like rich
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>>134746918
did you read what I wrote?

I understand that the bear eared ahole is a puppet who like to wear beads. As per >>134745491 I'm asking where is single party with one leader to vote for that is not pro-russian.
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>>134742021

It's almost for sure after the taxes. But don't forget, everything else (food, rents) are much lower than the western countries.

I know some easterns whining about their low wages, but fail to understand that say rents in their town costs like 200eur, you come, pay, move in and that's the end of it. They dream about Uk, fail to understand the price difference and the fact that you'll be standing in line with 40 people, looking a dirty toilet size room for 1000eur, landlord asking for _references_ to take you in. It's incomprehensible for them, it was for me.

The bottom line: being lower-middle class sucks everywhere. System is deliberately made like that.
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>>134746923
>>134747061
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>>134747061
time to start only drinking laua viin,
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>>134747085
no offense just coffee
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>>134747015
I know that feel.

>>134747027
Fuck, so much about my rubles.
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Im an Aussie living in Latvia married to a Latvian.

Life here is great, granted i work in Denmark Monday to Thursday and from home on Friday.

We recently had a baby, three day stay in hospital was 190 euro (food included) epidural was 240 euro. In Australia i think it would cost 8k or more for a baby.

Beer is crazy cheap. Like 60 euro cents for a pint can.

The women, Latvian and Russian are stunning but Russian girls seem to love married men....been tempted many times.
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>>134747070
There is a reason why people go to baltics for shopping, you know. We have shitty prices here, and for those prices our slarys are shit too.
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>>134747267
what kind of piss water are you drinking ?!
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>>134747267
russians are gold diggers and 60 cent beers are shit, the good ones are 1 euro and up
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>>134747338
Probably the cheapest Bock tier shit desu. The type of stuff alcoholics drink.
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>>134747385
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>>134747116
change flag to lithuanias and you got as precise meme as this
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>>134747267
>Beer is crazy cheap. Like 60 euro cents for a pint can.
dont remind me the good times.
We got one fucking russian into power and he immediately ruins everything
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It is utter shit
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>>134747451
except we are going to LTU for cheap shit lol, but Pol is way more convenient.
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>>134747451
>>134747522

Also return our rightful clay bralukas!
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>>134747267
You have to go back.
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>>134740897
German? You mean Swedish right?
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>>134747643
fuck off

you tried to blow up our cities you dumb medieval arab
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>>134747639
yeah, another coup for sure would make our country more stable.
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Lithuania is shit, that's why I'm in the UK.

Ask me anything.
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>>134747576
what clay are you referring to?
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>>134747639
Where is "make Latvia grate again" cap ?
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>>134747272
Tell me more about that ''rape'' stuff, what you know?Quck rundown?
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>>134747267
How come so many Aussies come to balts?
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>>134740089
My own experience of balts is that they are based.

Every Estonian I know is based more or less, you fuckers work hard, play hard and generally have a low tolerance for bullshit.
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>>134747728
Nobody cares, Abdullah.
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>>134745923
No, Estonia was
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>>134747061
You haven't been to Germany I guess
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>>134747791
honorary balts
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is it very common for people in baltics to live with their parents?

it's common in slovenia
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>>134747734
Let's start with Palanga! HUE
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>>134747863
Forgot about the /balt/ & /ausnz/ alliance, fug.
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>>134747863
T./int/
We don't have anything to do with those anglo mongrels.
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>>134747772
Should I really explain sarcastic answer to sarcastic post?
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>>134744698
t.vilniaus gyventojas
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>>134747930
No
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>>134742258
Nah, we think that we are glorious Americans and that uncle sam will always defend us and pat our heads.
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>>134747791
During WWII a lot of balts moved there.
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>>134747110
>food is much lower than the western countries.
Where in the fuck are you getting this from? Go to a Lidl in Lithuania and in the UK, almost identical goods and the prices here are sometimes even higher. Higher quality stuff is more expensive there but that's irrelevant. The difference is, in the West after rent and all the expenses you have something left at the end of the month.
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>>134747930
Yes.

Houses are cheap, but jobs are shitty. It's also quite hard to get one. Most people don't want to slave away for 400 eurobux a month, so they live with their parents who get a state pension.
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>>134747971
No, what is up with it?Are you saying Belarussians are coming here to rape woman or something.(i am not being ironic i am seriusly confused)
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>>134747930
Why this even matter ? Most of flat people can't leave together, if parents living in house there is stuff and place for everyone.

Is there even such statistics lol ?
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>>134747936
as long as im concerned you can have that overrated shittown full of marozai in the summer. It stinks, its full of "urods" and the prices are high.
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>>134748118
Live*
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>>134748084
Lol no. My second post was serious, rape post was just ironic. Seriously, many people here find it cheaper to go to baltics to buy some stuff, cause prices here for many goods are total shit.
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>>134748151
oh shit thanks man, not like I need it but its first step of global Latvian expansion !
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>>134748207
>no visa for 7 days.

Also potato country
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>>134740089
You know the videos of white people cringe? We are it !
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>>134748277
>"WHY YOU HAVE TO BE MAD?!"
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>>134748454
yeap, 100%
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>>134742298
>Mixed with chemicals
Probably hairspray
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>>134748454

No, Slovenia is bordering the Balkans, that's near Australia
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>>134748454
Baltic is geographical and cultural region, slovenia isn't even near baltic sea and they are culturaly much diferant.
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>>134742933
From Estonia and definitely an Eastern-European country and/or Slavic, most people love to think we are Nordic though, lol we are not.
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>>134747804
>>134747841
>>134741786
>>134741586
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>>134748277
>>134748323
the fuck is wrong with Latvians?
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>>134748729
Potato diet obviously
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>>134748729
That is called a humor here.
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>>134748780
ReEEEEEEEEEEEE
Stop feeding the patatoe meme. we don't use any patatoes in our national cousine!
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>>134741191
>>russian scum
>Missed our chance in the 90's, now they only whine how great and big russia is, but dont leave because its shit over there.

Exactly the same situation in Estonia.
>b-but muh human rights! russkaja federatsija pls save us!

Most russkies are fine, they at least try to assimilate in some way but then there are those soviet-era grannies and just generally brainwashed/TV-culture russians, who think they are entitled to everything Estonia has and every non-russian can go and die in a prison.
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>>134747643
No he ment Latvian.
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>>134742258
Nah, we think that we are glorious Americans and that uncle sam will always defend us and pat our heads.

>>134748659
B-b-but estonia can into nordic! Shut your mouth you russian idjit! America number one, protects us from Putin!

Seriously though, our prices are nordic whereas we get paid two potatoes and a limp macaroni per month
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>>134748861
Dude, that dish screams , add potato ! Not even kiddin !
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>>134748861
>we don't use any patatoes in our national cousine
Atually, yes we do. It is the basis of most meals here. What you posted is one of the very few exceptions to that.
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>>134749024
>>134748861
that irrational meal with out potato my friend.
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The Baltics are nice. Drove through all the countries with my family back in 2009.

White and safe. The way I like it
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>>134740770
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnZsH4kNyLI
Agreed but if you aren't ethnic Balt you can fuck off.No one here cares if you are white, if you aren't ethnic Balt you can't come.
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>>134747936
If you want Palanga give us back Ukri village, Aknysta and lands close to Daugavpilis.
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>>134748621
i thought slovenia was baltic becasue of its name, like lithuania, estonia, slovakia,latvia, etc. they all end in enia or ia.is berry confusing for some burgers have mercy
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>>134749299
All of northern lithuania is Latvian clay, fucking thief
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>>134744462
Prices are low in Lithuania and Latvia yeah, in Estonia we've got third world salaries and 1st world prices.
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>>134749353
hamburgers :DDDDDDDDDD čīzburgers XX--DDDDDD
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>>134749299
FLAG
L
A
G

I'm not dealing with jihadi out out out
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>>134749299
You can take all of daugavpils.
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>>134749423
x-DDDDDDDDD
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>>134749398
>in Estonia we've got third world salaries and 1st world prices
its the same in Latvia and Lithuania, except the salaries r 4th world
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>>134740089
Cozy
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>>134749353
nah it's fine i didn't call you a retard becouse i know that burger education lacks behind, you guys realy need to fix your education, sadly becouse of niggs and spics you have to lower down your educational standarts so they can pass trough.
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Pretty good i guess
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Are there still a lot of German buildings and such left over in Klaipeda (Memel) or were they all torn down like in neighboring Konigsberg by the Soviets?
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>>134749427

Uh oh. Better change my flag now!

>>134749374

How so? The borders weren't fully certain until Commonwealth times and Russian empire times.

>>134749432

Thank you. We'll genocide the russians.
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>>134749280
NO NIGGERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
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>>134749607
Thats in Romania dumbass, you think that everyone here is stupid?
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>>134747688
You retards couldn't build anything for yourselves and were better off in our kingdom. You know it.
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>>134749607
looks like Lithuania, or Kaliningrad lol
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>>134749629
Klaipeda was bombed hard during ww2, there is some left but most are rebuilt
the old town is pretty nice though
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>>134749752
So much ne. You fucked your self big time my colored friend.
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>>134749673
yeah but you have to give us memel since scandians lived there before Lithuanians, also northern Lithuania , not much but a bit of north and we are good.
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>>134740089
wouldn't know
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>>134749694
>YYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
If you don't have any ethnic Baltic heretage you aren't welcome, sory burgerbro rules are rules.
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>>134749824
Shame about the bombing but good about the old town. Looks comfy. Is the city of Memel still Lithuania's main port or have more been constructed since 1945?
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>>134749870
Those aren't set borders, Latvian-Lithuanian border has been same since 1236 after Battle of Saule. And by that logic we actually have more claim to Latvian lands since our dukes actually ruled there.
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>>134749985
This.
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>>134749985
>>134750054
Then no deal, we will not excgange south Latgalia, for nothing desu.
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>>134749939
im 1/8th east prussian (native prussian that is). Am I allowed?
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>>134748861
milk(shake) with cabbage salad and cucumber. You are trying to invoke your inner Indian or what?
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>>134749939
holy shit what now, I have to pack and leave, my closest ethnic heritage are coming from Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth and in time of Mr. Ulmanis first traces of settling down in Broceni
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Estonia is good, pretty advanced and far above Latvia and Lithuania.

Latvia and Lithuania are pretty interchangable in most qualities, Latvians are more irrationally nationalistic, reciting arbitrary falsehoods to make themselves feel better, but Lithuanians are generally less educated.

Nice looking countries, not very smart people, lots of ingrained traditions, most of them on /pol/ are mindlessly regurgitating points they've heard without understanding them.
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>>134750189
it's Kefirs u dummy !
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>>134750182
>im 1/8th east prussian (native prussian that is).

No you're not, they wen't extinct in 1700's as much as you want to larp as one.
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The only good things here are the healthcare (although they are shitting on it too now) and free education but all in all it's a crappy life here 1/10 do not come here.
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>>134750146
Good. We don't need lands lived in by russians. Still sad that we won't be able to genocide them.
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>>134749939
Janka, stop being a fucking retard
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>>134747015
>>134744290
>>134747015
This
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>>134750246
actually they were assimilated, as in changed their language to german. Ethnically, east prussia was still mostly baltic until after ww2 when russians replaced the whole population
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>>134749939
well fine, i'll go to poland instead. They love the burgers and polocks are my type of white people anyway
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>>134749965
It's the only proper port, there are some smaller cities on the coast line but their small docks are mostly for tourists or fishers
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>>134750330
Kingdom of Prussia was proof to the fact that German autism and Baltic savagery can create wonders
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>>134749024
I agree 100%
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>>134750239
But man the result will be even more indian that way!
(tfw for some reason thought that kefir sounds somehow different on English)
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Latvians and Lithuanians, I'm wondering about one thing. Would most of you agree to unite into a single country?
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>>134750781
No
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>>134750635
Haven't you heard about stewed cabbage?! I tough it's also common in Russia.
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>>134750781
We are close enough, no.
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>>134750846
Sautēti kāposti is a german thing
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>>134743314
So based on this, how would you guys think of a national union?
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>>134750940
Reeeeee, leave us alone

A union similar to the EU, sure, but not forming a single entity
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>>134750913
stoveti kaposti* I'm fucking lost now, but cabbage meals are quite common in our region from Poland to Belarus
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>>134750204
>reciting arbitrary falsehoods to make themselves feel better, but Lithuanians are generally less educated.

You just did that yourself.

>>134750330
No it wasn't, by 1700 actual Old Prussians were only about 1/3 to 1/4 of population and vast majority died by 1700's plague because actual Old Prussians belonged to peasantry and rural areas were most devastated by plague and were resettled by Germans etc.
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>>134751014
Ok.
>tfw imperial colonial lands for Finland never
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>>134750940
>>134751014
HUE
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>>134748454
this is so fucking retarded that i cant even believe it
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>>134750817
>>134750912

Why not? To me it just sounds like a perfect idea to unite. Must be just me, then. Time to cry in the corner, I guess.
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This thread is missing autistic Western commie larpers and Russian rusemasters.
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autism
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>>134751014
>leave us alone
stop making alcohol so cheap
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>>134750846
Of course i heard it and ate a lot of times. It's a decent meal especially as a part of the pie. What confuses me on photo is combination of cucumber and kefir.Combination well known for it's laxative qualities.
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An old drunk bum is yelling all over public transport right now: I DON'T LOVE NIGGERS, I HATE NIGGERS, I DON'T KILL NIGGERS BUT I HATE NIGGERS. DIRTY/BLACK NIGGERS.
Fun fact, the word for dirty AND black is the same in Estonian (must).
Also if you're a nigger don't come here. For your own good.
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>>134751192
Lithuanian imperialism on the rise!

More news at 20:00

>>134751241
pls buy our alcohol
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>>134750781
Lithuanians are to Latvians same as swedes are to danes, close but not enough so answer is no.
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>>134740089
Awful. Stay away, burger.
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>>134751245
ahahahaha you weak!

drinking kefirs with pork and gray beans is fucking glory !
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>>134751322
How do you say "Fuck off we're full" in Estonian?
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>>134751418
faaaaak. oooof. veeeeeeer. fuuuuuuuul.
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>>134750182
ahh kinda i gues.
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>>134751192
Then we need common religion, ain't catholic.
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>>134751418
oopsi kaaksi puupsii beniz XXX---DDDDD
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>>134751487
>Estonians think Finns are slow
>Latvians think Estonians are slow

How fucking fast are you people?
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>>134750940
Would be nice to make something like V4.
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LARP
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>>134751592
by slow do you mean stupid or slow as in they do things slowly?
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>>134751592
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>>134751657
slowly
>>134751592
Six toes nigga.
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>>134751673
And now i imagine your people as multicolored anime hedgehogs.
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>>134751777
Wew digits....
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>>134751777
No matter how fast we run, we cannot run away from the pain
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>>134751063
Was looking at IQ stats myself, but genuinely don't care about that particular point.

https://iq-research.info/en/page/average-iq-by-country
shows a 7 point difference by IQ, but my wording was off, so the education point goes to you.

I'm still saying that people here aren't very smart.
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>>134751913
IQ points are easily explained by that we're not as centralized as Latvia or Estonia where a huge chunk of your population like 1/4 lives in one city. On average people are earn less are shorter and dumber in rural areas than in cities, that's just how it is for whatever reasons everywhere.
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I'm going to spend next year in Tartu, Estonia, it's probably as degenerate as our average Western student cities, but I'm actually glad to got to a foreign country which seems to be less degenerate than mine.
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Excuse me but
How present is English in the Baltics?
I'm a business guy and I have some money to open a new business like a cafe with actual coffee and Brazilian moonshine outside of Brazil
How would this idea work there?
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>>134747643
I mean the beautiful Romanesque and Gothic styles Germans brought to Baltic tribes.

>>134748939
Let's say Teutonic.

>>134741671
see >>134745313
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>>134752397
Young people speak English older people not so much.
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>>134752397
english works out ok, but knowing russian is a bonus
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>>134752473
And would they like to get wasted on moonshine and od on coffee?
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>>134743150
What are you smoking?
Since when are russians pro refugee? In fact no one i personaly know is pro refugee in Latvia.
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>>134752397
No one here knows English, fuck off we are full.
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>>134752557
Depends on area in capital cities you can always find retards who would probably eat cat shit if it was hip and trendy.
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>>134752557
Only in certain parts in Vilnius. The rest of the country doesnt give a fuck about fancy drinks
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>>134752590
Saskaņa atbalstīja kvotas, tu dauni.

>>134752397
You good
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>>134752590
Same, even russians don't whant them here.
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>>134752397
Don't, you will either get swindeled by local crooks or have your shop overtaken( as in customers) by local hipsters.
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NEW THREAD WHEN?
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>>134752729
WTF i hate saskaņa now.
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>>134752557
What are your intentions exacly?If you will just invest and not move i am okay with it, if you whant to move then fuck off we are full.Also what is your ethnicity?
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>>134752543
Why have the estonians in /pol/ become such faggots? Why don't you fuckwits get together and create a travel brochure for niggers and suck each other off while you're at it.
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>>134752729
>Saskaņa atbalstīja kvotas, tu dauni.

Saskana is nothing but bunch of commies and gopniks *not like half of saima is). They ain't representing most of "ethnic Russian and shiet"
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>>134753053
God, youre autistic
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>>134752877
>>134753069

NEW THREAD
NEW THREAD
NEW THREAD
NEW THREAD
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>>134753201
He asked about politicians, learn to read.
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>>134753207
>Implaying we all aren't
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>>134752729
Can you give me a link where they are openly supporting refugees? NEED PROOFS
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>>134753053
I'm on that portuguese white so probably not white enough for your taste
I'm thinking more of investing then moving but yeah
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>>134742782
Can confirm, there seems to be a weird connection between Germans and Latvians. If it wasn't for the language I would probably move aswell
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>>134746801

Kek I get 2500 eurocucks and have no higher degree whatsoever.
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>>134753153
>implying im not the klooga fun camp agent
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