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The so-called "Russian Meddling"

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So I was talking to a friend of mine who seriously believed the MSM narrative about Russia interfering in our election. For a moment, I would like to disregard the fact that the people making this claim have presented no evidence, and as far as I have seen haven't even said what the interference was beyond the lie that Julian Assange works for Putin.

That being said, let's assume that everything the libtards are saying is true, and Putin used his Russia powers to change the election, and Trump is a puppet of Putin.

OK, so, if that's true, then what reason do we have to prefer the Democrats over the Russians? They have yet to present a case for why they are objectively better than what we have now. For that matter, why should I have any special hatred towards Russia? I really want a serious answer, because insults aren't going to convince me to vote for the Democrat party.
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>>134724406
Why are you looking for reason or logic in the establishment's lies? Thats not what matters to anyone.
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>>134724406

obviously you are 12 and what is this
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>>134724406
why does putin always wear 3 button suits? it makes his already short frame look scrunched...
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>>134724406
leftists believe their positions are self evident and rely on others agreeing in order to push their positions. Mostly individual leftists are too untrained to be able to argue an untrue claim with any chance of success and defer to the "are you kidding me?" and "its not my job to educate you" lines. Those that are trained know they can only come out looking intellectual in controlled environments and dont engage with "little" people
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>>134724406
>What reason do we have to prefer Democrats over the Russians
When the Russians have better policies than the Democrats, they really fucked up

I can't wait til 2020 when we can start accusing the Democratic nominee of being a russian stooge
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>>134725179
If so, the Democrats would just say that Russia is cool and all their sheeple would accept it. Candy bar rations have been increased to one, and we have always been at war with Eastasia.
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>>134725077
I know, but it seems that their scheme of insulting people into voting for them is having the opposite effect.
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>>134724406
>Russia interfering in our election.
There's a shit-ton of hard evidence. Sorry comrades, but I'm an American patriot so I'm siding with the US Intelligence Community rather than the Kremlin on this one. Go spew your firehose of lies somewhere else you stupid slavniggers.
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>>134725996
>voted for Hillary
>American Patriot

Pick one.

-What did I say that's a lie?
-Are your insults supposed to make me want to vote for your party?
-How are your policies better than Trump's?
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>>134726222
They will do what they always do, double down. It's obviously your fault for not voting for her you bigot.
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>>134724406
>What reason do I have to support my own countrymen rather than foreigners?
You're not a very good nationalist, anon...
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<3 russia. if you were smart you would too!
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In intelligence circles the White House would be considered compromised. The near constant litany of lies, missing information, obfuscation of activities and the proactive attempts to undermine investigations all point towards some level of Russian meddling, collusion or control. I would be surprised if any ally would allow the White House access to there classified material right now.
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>>134725996
>There's a shit-ton of hard evidence
Post it
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>>134724406
Russian will look out for Russian interests which generally speaking means a weaker or at the very least one that would lift sanctions against Russia. You can argue whether this is a good or bad thing. Electing Donald Trump has strained relationship with allies and gives an air of uncertainty with American policy. This makes the US a less reliable partner and thus less likely to receive support itself from its allies.

Also, it does seem the intelligence communities are at the very least sure that Russian intelligence services stole and released info from the DNC. It is hard to know the full picture since the matter is still under investigation. So at the very least it seems that the government takes these hack or possible hacks seriously.
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>>134727249
Ehh
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>>134727241
OK, so roughly a 4th of the Mexican nation exists in the US and bloc votes for the Democrats. If (theoretically) I have to choose between Russia and Mexico, as a white man I'm going to prefer having white rulers.

I stated that I don't believe the rubbish narrative.

Assuming the narrative were correct however, can you produce an argument for why Democrat policies are better? Saying "it's foreign" isn't good enough, because Democrats want to flood my country with foreigners. Do you see my point yet?
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>>134724406
All you have to do is laugh and say they sound like mccarthy
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>>134724406
you can't help the brainwashed cultists, anon. there is no reasoning with them. you can only point out how they were brainwashed and hope the signal gets through.
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>>134727313
>Thinks the left doesn't lie.
>Believes MSM narrative.
I said, assuming you guys are right, what reason do I have to prefer the Democrat policies and vote for their party? Seems like you have nothing to say.
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>>134725996
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3254239-Russia-Hacking-report.html

Is
>RT Youtube views
>A picture with Putin and someone from RT
>"Twitter trolls"
considered "a shit-ton of hard evidence" now?
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>>134731895
Absolutely is, those people had no right to report on our election without supporting Hillary Clinton.
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>>134732050
kek
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>>134725913
Don't know if you are gonna ever see this, but I appreciated your 1984 reference you did here. More subtle than what people usually do of just saying something about big brother, or just saying 1984.
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>>134732335
Thanks
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>>134730158
>russia
>white
They're all like 1/4 Asian, my friend.
And as far as "white solidarity" goes... "white solidarity" will get you exactly 0 in Russia. If America lost influence in the Middle East and Russia gained influence, Russians would love it. The extra wealth and trade that they got would ****NOT**** be shared with America.
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>>134727947
Elitist globalist priorities are not my priorities. I don't want Muslims in my country, I don't want Christians being forced to participate in "gay marriages," I don't want to be a minority buried neck deep in violent mestizos who refuse to learn English and follow my wife around in broad daylight, I don't want to pay any more taxes for Obamacare because I was too poor to afford medical insurance, I don't want my money going to support guatemalan baby mommas while my child's future is uncertain, I don't want to depose any more secular Middle Eastern dictators, and I don't care to be allied with western European communists governments who are unwilling to defend their own people against the Islamic horde.
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>>134733167
They might be, at most, 10% Asian, and Mexico is 90% Amerindian, what's your point? Asians are better than Mexicans and Muslims.

I don't care about the savage Muslim countries. I don't want anything to do with those people. I don't want to depose secular middle eastern dictators and bring those savages to my country where they can allahuwackbar themselves in my favorite shopping mall. We have enough oil in the US that we don't need the durkas anymore. What is wrong with you people? Russia isn't communist, therefore the cold war is over. Russia was never the enemy, communism was the enemy, and the only reason the USSR was bad was because it was communist. Communism is the enemy, regardless of who and where the communists are.

IS there a reason I should support the Democrats? They want to make me a minority in my own country surrounded by people who invented chainsaw porn.
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>>134725996
Pics or it didn't happen faggot
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>>134735434
It didn't happen, and even if it did then it still worked out in our favor. Democrats are salty because not everyone wants to be a cucked up subhuan slave.
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>>134724406
Stop argueing on their terms.

There was no hack and they need to stop the temper tantrum and clean house
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>>134724406
we're pretty much fucked. we either take the russian cock or the mexican cock.

i personally prefer russian
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>>134727947
>still under investigation
as it will be until they find something (ha) or it is more convenient for them to make it disappear
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>>134736803
This. If they don't find anything, and Trump doesn't just dismantle the investigation, Mueller's investigator squad will have grown to a few thousand investigators by 2024.
It's a huge waste of resources that exists solely to baselessly poo-poo on Trump.
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>>134725996
Hi ShareBlue
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>>134736006
We have more in common with Russians than Mexicans.
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>>134735819
I know, I just wanted to see if they had anything to say.
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>>134724406
You should ask them to be more specific like "what exactly did Russia do?"

At maximum we are talking about Russia exposing the corruption in DNC and showing it to the world.

Whether Russia was involved or not, I find the accusations hilarious. US has been doing this around the globe and even to Russia (e.g. Yeltsin 1996, Soros 1989) for years.
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