Wheres the love?

if you cant get laid then thats on you
work on improving your value on the sexual marketplace

Women cant be changed, they always go for the chads when they have the freedom. Its their nature

>>134675083
nice ass is that you OP?

>>134675212
If you cannot read that's on you. If conforming to a bland reality that has been recreated millions of times is the only thing that increases sexual market value than I say the market is not free and must be reformed.

>>134675647
Its your warped head that somehow convinces you that you must be a chad to fuck women. A couple things first off lower your standards, hit the gym, become an interesting person. I have friends who are skinnyfat and balding yet still fuck plently of women, why? Because they live interesting lives and arent whiners and complainers like you MGTOW lot. There is nothing conformist about living a self fullfilled life, and once you have that the women will follow

>>134675983
>skinnyfat and balding yet still fuck plently of women
God damned skinnyfat balding Chads are the worst REEEEEEE.

>>134675983
>balding

Yeah you haven't met the millennial generation they're as superficial as it gets. I blame the liberals for this but conservatives are to blame as well because their only answer is
>if you can't get laid that's on you.

>>134675498
google 'rachel cook', you degenerate

>>134675983
also wtf
>hit the gym
are you just trying to prove my point anon? My point is it is not just one mans problem that all men must conform or become outcasts and unvalued in the sexual marketplace.

>>134676634
>hit the gym
Lifting weights improves one's confidence.

>>134676691
>American

Yah it's no wonder no one respects this country. Americans are brainless and conformists who's only diversity comes from being so stupid. What's diverse about a country where everyone tries to fit in and never stand out?

>>134675083
why should women settle for less? go to the gym you fucking degenerate

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>>134676691
As someone who works out, can confirm.
Shit feels so good too. You never feel more relaxed than after a good workout.

>>134676880
Im trying to help you, stop acting like a special snowflake. Their are things that can be done as a man that will improve your life. Have some self control and take a hold of your life, you are in control of your destiny.

>Corinthians 13:11
When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me.

>>134676880
I bet you think getting married and having kids is conformist as well.

>>134676891
why is having a lack of mobility in your arms from a excessive work out routine settling for less? Admit it anon you have been brainwashed. The movie Fight Club was right heck feminists harp on this all the time how we have all been tricked into what is and is not beauty by marketing campaigns. When the fuck will men qake up and realize the same beauty standards imposed on women and been imposed on men as well? btw this anon is /fit/ so your points are meaningless. this anon is also getting plenty of attention from women the problem is women in the western culture only go home with aggressive men who induldge materialism.

>>134677137
What if everyone worked out and was fit, wouldn't women just raise their standards and height, facial structure, etc, become the most important criteria? Women tend to only be attracted to the top tier males and they don't mind sharing them.

>>134676143

can you be a chad and be skinnyfat? I don't considr myself chad but I have a gf and have had 10+ sexual partners.

>>134675083
>Women compete with each other to mate with men as far up the success hierarchy as possible.

>Hierarchies naturally reward dominant personalities, therefore the more alpha the male, the more dominant his personality. Dominant women are therefore less efficient to cooperate with in mating than submissive women for alpha males as they seek dominance, and without female submission this forces both parties to pay the price of conflict to resolve disputes.

>Thus, selection will reward female submission to roughly the same proportion it rewards male dominance.

>As women seek dominance, and hierachies distribute power in pyramid (pareto) form, women will seek men at the top of the distribution (where they will be subject to the most marginal dominance) and polygamy will occur by default, unless Men redistribute them.

>Therefore, monogamy is enforced by the upper class men only to receive some marginal social benefit in reciprocity from the lower and middle class men (from which they receive peace), their upper class female partners (from which they receive greater psychological bonding and therefore loyalty) and each other (from which they mutually insure each other against “cheating” so they don’t risk being outcompeted by each other in quantity of offspring, to instead focus their competition on the quality of offspring, which is not eugenic to society at large, but highly eugenic to the upper class itself).

Monogamy causes a more even distribution of pussy and raises the satisfaction of a majority of men and lowers their propensity to violence. Diminish monogamy and permit cock carousel riding and growing dissatisfaction will manifest as violence. OP is right.

The problem cannot be solved by convincing or persuading women to act contrary to their nature. You must analyze society and troubleshoot it in terms of causes and effects: power, institutions, norms, and incentives.

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It's never been easier to fuck women in the history of mankind. They fuck complete strangers they meet on the internet.

It's depressing that you won't be able to easily find a loyal wife that hasn't had 40 dicks in her but if you're complaining about a lack of sex in the current year, that's just fucking sad bro

>>134677137
>bible thumper

All right get the fuck out you religous faggot. You're so conformist you have to read a book and conform to have a meaning to your life.

>>134675083
>the real cause is a lack of pussy in mens lives?
the real cause is the male mind.
the desire for pussy is simply a brain created impulse, like an opiate addict craving dope.
men are violent and aggressive mostly due to testosterone. we are not fully civilized animals.

>>134677621
Im sure rejecting traditional values will bring you a fullfilled life. By all means dont work on bettering yourself and finding a suitable wife, why would anyone be dumb enough to do such a thing? Stupid conformists know nothing.

>>134677471
This

thank goodness one anon who replied actually has a brain.

>>134675083
Young men without a woman are the men who fight and die in wars. Women temper mens' aggression and competition because they now have someone else to care for besides themselves. They have lives to build instead of fighting for their ideals and values. China is about to experience some serious shit because of their demographic problem. Too many males and not enough females to go around, because of biased abortions, with more females aborted than males. With all of these males unable to start families they will want to fight something.

>>134677838
Your flag and assumptions only prove my point further. Are all americans autistic from their vaccines? I actually have traditional values i'm just not a religous cunt like yourself anon. I get mocked for not whoring around like my peers and actually looking for a women suitable for marriage. So shut the fuck up anon youre not adding anything to this /thread your just some sad sack of american shit trying to justify being part of the problem and not the solution.

>>134677410
>What if everyone worked out and was fit, wouldn't women just raise their standards and height, facial structure, etc, become the most important criteria? Women tend to only be attracted to the top tier males and they don't mind sharing them.

Will never happen, there will always be weak-willed men and women. Both will be taken advantaged of

>>134675083
BRAAAP
>>>134676958
giv milky

>>134675083
>Why do normie's both liberal and conservative blame bullies and poverty for men becoming violent and anti social when the real cause is a lack of pussy in mens lives?
This underestimates the male drive to civilization, well at least in some of us. How many men gave up pussy to fight and die in a war..

>Can we meme the female sex into caring about the individual again instead of only carrying about the cookie cutter chad's we see getting all the females today?
You are overestimating the female drive to change, which is deeply ingrained in her nature. The female is realized through the male. Woman desires to be dominated by a self confident man, swept of her feet no matter what she says she wants. On the other hand there is her drive for financial security (to raise offspring).

Right now this drive is split in half and perverted: she will mistake the lack of self reflection in chads and niggers for confidence on the one hand and will be supported financially by government handouts on the other.

>All this anon is proposing is that females start looking for real beauty in the opposite sex rather than just looking at swollen muscle tissue and materialism.
Some other anons already pointed out that men have to step up to the plate. Working out can be part of that, but working on charisma is essential.

Recommended reading, this post but also the rest of the blog.
>https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2017/07/18/single-white-women-are-a-civilization-scale-shit-test/

>>134678109
Other anon >>134677471 seems to be right to me. Men can compete and fight for a better place in the hierarchy, but it will not change the overall distribution much. We're already under some kind of soft polygyny and more and more women reject monogamous marriage. Female promiscuity and hypergamy don't mix so well.

>>134675083
*funneled BRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaAaaAAAAAAAAAAPff!*

>>134678214
Russian anon do you think America is just a place full of niggers, other browns and chads? I just ask this because it really seems like burgers lack self reflection.

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>>134675212
>sexual marketplace

I can't find that anywhere on the Dark web.
>Need TOR link to find WHORE link.

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>>134676422
>'rachel cook'

>>134677476
>tfw when 2nd gen. immigrants get both

>>134678989
I like your sense of humor anon

>>134677862
Imagine the money makers would make them fight and sell the coverage to see who gets the bride

>>134675983
>There is nothing conformist about living a self fullfilled life, and once you have that the women will follow
What an awful, empty attitude/existence.

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>>134679234
This, so much This it's not even funny

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>>134679242
>tfw you avoid this monstrosity and find based waifu from motherland

>>134679234
>>134679651
You two are whiney brats, this world owes you nothing,

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>>134677476
When it comes to casual sex, women can have very high standards. Then those standards carry on for real relationships as well. More men and women are single. More and more women just fuck Chads and complain about how they wish Chad would be and that he would commit. More and more lower value men just stay home and watch porn and play vidyas.

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>>134679242
>You bloody bastard, no son of mine you make the bloody show of me on the 4chan. Look! Anon bloody laughing at me! I never should send you bloody America, fucking pansy pussy boy white man make the destroy you.

>>134679892
Thank you burger for proving my point and showing your lack of self reflection. Haha and you burgers call yourselfs a diverse culture. Sad really

>>134680329
At least I know the difference between Netherlands and Russia

>>134677453
'THats disgusting you degenerate whore.

>>134679234
the truth has been spoken

>>134675983
>hit le gym and get le boof to raise confidoonce xddd

wtf, i hate americans now
>herd mentality
>meat heads left and right

personally, i gain confidence through: getting good grades on exams (college level boi), after a study session (because i want to get somewhere, and muscles wont help me), or even after learning a new language (can be programming or not, doesn't matter)
there's a crap ton of ways to increase confidence instead of "muh muscle jooc and pawder" and "muh gaainnnzzz"

>>134675083

literally perfect ass

>>134675083
You're stupid.

Niggers often have 8 kids by 7 different women and are still violent as fuck. It's not a lack of pussy that's the problem.

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>>134680492
N-NANI?!??!?

>>134675083
Accepting that females are inferior is the first step in your redpilling. Why do you think it took us so long to give them voting rights?

What you should really do is ignore them, stop trying to get pussy this much, stop being desperate. You'll find someone eventually, but don't bite into these bitches's traps.

I hope that these useless pussy owners would die and leave only decent women, but then there would barely be any pussy.

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>>134675083
4th thread live about bitches and how shitty they are.
Fucking hell, I'm glad we're finally addressing the root of our problems.
Because THIS is what we need more discourse on, not niggers, not jews; they have 0 leverage over how we run our countries once we get women back into their place.

We need the fucking patriarchy back, we need men to be men but they won't be unless they have a reason.
Give a boy a girl so he doesn't masturbate his sexual energy away, and give him a goal to work towards.
Men like to create and impress inherently, we just need a fucking reason.

>>134680670
I agree with your post. Youre missing the broader point, work on bettering yourself and everything else will fall into place.

>>134680670
You can focus on studies and hit the gym as well you skinnyfat numale faggot. Plus exercise helps your brain a bit as well and being fit is always a bonus for your social standing.

>>134680978
this x1million

>>134676958
yeah this is so true. spend at least an hour at the gym a day and you will feel great afterwards both physically and mentally. get into a good routine and improve your aesthetics. you don't need to go full Mr. Olympia, but getting in shape does wonders for confidence. Women take notice too. If you don't want to go to a gym and lift weights, go for runs or join a local boxing gym or mma gym. great way to meet people and it never hurts to know how to defend your lady's honor.

>>134675212
the sexual marketplace is not free.

>>134681001
>We need the fucking patriarchy back, we need men to be men but they won't be unless they have a reason.
It is up to men and men only to want this, where men go women follow.

>Give a boy a girl so he doesn't masturbate his sexual energy away, and give him a goal to work towards.
Who do you propose gives these things? The state?

>>134681353
Women are attracted to angular faces, if you lower your BF% your face becomes more angular (ie stronger jaw, cheekbones becoming more prominent)

>>134681023
i heavily agree with that point my guy

>>134681028
>skinnyfat
>social standing
but WHY do you HAVE to hit the gym? Also, a brisk walk inbetween classes should be enough for your brain. No need for an exercise schedule

>>134681768
You dont HAVE to but it helps tremendously as far as physical attraction goes

>>134680492
You guys need to get your flags sorted out, shit just looks like a toothpaste

>>134681911
Careful, your lack of education is showing.

>>134675083
brap

>>134678660
I don't think it's a place full of chads that's about only 10% I think. Same with niggers. Since the US is a European outgrowth it will contain the whole spectrum of behaviors from pedophiles to saints, so you'll find all kinds of people there.

>it really seems like burgers lack self reflection.
It may just only seem that way though, as you say. Because those that lack self reflection will by necessity not be hindered by self knowledge, they will be first to speak up, loudly. That may give the wrong impression of the whole, however.

>>134681898
i suppose

>>134681993
I know the difference between the flags I just get confused because they look so similar.

>>134675983
>Its your warped head that somehow convinces you that you must be a chad to fuck women.

You have to be a chad, or a cuck.

Thats the problem, you stupid cuck faggot. You think you made it just because you got a GF or worse, a wife?

Your about to get the biggest wakeup call in your life

>>134682125
Make's sense Netherlands bro my bad for calling you a Russian

>>134675498
>>134678186
>>134678657
>>134680700
>>134682065
Degenerates

>>134682314
>Your about to get the biggest wakeup call in your life

THIS!

>>134682202
>I just get confused
This a prevalent problem in your life?

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>>134681389
>Who do you propose gives these things? The state?
There's a few ways to go about it. I think the path of least resistance would be to only allow people who agree to be drafted to vote.

We need to de-legalize adultery or allow violence between married couples.
The west needs to get it's priorities back on track, you can't have men's sole purpose in life being trying to impress the opposite sex.
It breeds almost every problem /pol/ is aware of.

>>134682428
>>134682314
*you're

fuck i meant to fix that before posting it lol

>>134682314
desu im guessing Chad
since he's emphasizing the whole gym thing

>>134681372
Speak for yourself, social autist.

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>>134682542
lol happens to the best of us anon

spelling is authoritarian anyways

*sips tea*

Dude, women will never change. They have always been like that, its their nature. It's just more apparent in today's society as opposed to other time periods such as the 1950's because our society encourages bitch behavior. There's nothing you can do about it.

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>>134682431

>>134675983
>lower your standards
If you want to fuck fuglies and fatties.
If you need to "lower your standards" you're playing the game wrong.

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>>134682892
>our society encourages bitch behavior.

Let's expand on this

>>134682944
Its a simple solution, not getting any pussy? Lower your standards. Want to fuck hotter girls? Raise your status.

>>134682944
Digits confirm what you are saying.
Kek is with us.

>>134682486
>you can't have men's sole purpose in life being trying to impress the opposite sex.

you can, the problem is that women dont go for men who have done anything of actual value for society anymore, until they're washed up old hags, OR if they're planning to cuck the shit out of you.

Because feminism has given them so much power over men, they dont need to go for someone whos actually equal to them. They can get child support, affirmative action, alimony.

All that matters is how hot and fun a guy is, or if not, how easily he can be cucked out of everything he's worth.

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>>134675212
what if I just don't care?

>>134683376
Then don't complain

>>134683137
Let's go back to the root of my question anon.
>raise your status

If status is only based on building muscles, being a degenerate dick to your peers, buying into consumerism and worshiping materialism, then where is there room for Idealism or individualism? The real question i'm asking is what has to happen for females to desire individualism, idealism and intelligence the real muscle behind the progress of the western world?

>>134675083
I have no muscle at all and I get girls faggot, you don't get laid because you have an ugly face. Motherfuckers who were born with an ugly face have it hard. The whole "lmao just go to the gym man, get swole and you'll get laid" thing is such a meme

Feel bad my best friend works out every day and has a nice physique but his face is ugly and girls are turned away from that

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>>134683335
>you can, the problem is that women dont go for men who have done anything of actual value for society anymore

Let's expand on this

>>134683335
>you can
No, you can't. It's perfectly okay if they're working hard on themselves and/or problems in general to impress society as a whole, or their wife.
But once the equation changes to trying to impress sluts, you get societal rot.

>>134683615
>be a burger
>make assumptions

Putin was right about you guys you all have excessive self importance and it leads to constant conflict.

I do fine with ladies btw I'm trying to address real issues and be a person of substance rather than a walking cum machine.

>>134679921
why do you care so much about other people making decisions you wouldnt?

There isnt just one catagory for how wemon judge men there are meny. making good decisions for a decade or two should work

weather your goal is a family or getting some dumb cunt to spread her legs for you

>>134675083
I don't agree to the star fucking chad rags out there but I also can't agree with OP.
Yea if men don't get to fuck their test rises so they become aggressive.

Solution is to show these sluts that their life style is not that glamorous and has consequences, stuff that the media doesn't show.

>>134683931
I made the assumption because you said this
>females start looking for real beauty in the opposite sex rather than just looking at swollen muscle tissue and materialism.

Either way who gives a fuck man, life ain't fair. This is really a non-issue. Society sucks in general and women are trash, get over it and try to have fun

>>134683137
Feminism allowed women to increase their standards to an unrealistic degree by holding us all at gunpoint and forcing our own obsolescence onto us with cuck laws.

Hell, french cucks even banned paternity testing. And many states in the US, and countries like canada, entitle a woman to alimony just if you fucking live with your GF in an apartment together for a year or two.

The answer?

According to even /pol/, men just need to fullfill even more ridiculous standards, just lift weights bra, just do roids brah, and ignore that this is all just a symptom of a disease which is also resulting in the collapse of birthrates, and consequently, eventually, the whole of western civilization

Nothing will ever chance because men are endlessly apologetic cucks to the female gender

>>134683545
>status is only based on building muscles, being a degenerate dick to your peers, buying into consumerism and worshiping materialism
You mean physical strength and financial security? Yes women are attracted to this.

>The real question i'm asking is what has to happen for females to desire individualism, idealism and intelligence the real muscle behind the progress of the western world?
With individualism, idealism and intelligence usually comes with it security of some sort.

>>134684050
Never mind me, it doesn't matter what I do.
What about the large scale consequences?

>>134675212
I'm not paying for a service tho, i want affection, respect and someone i can count on in good and bad.

>>134675083
Hey pal, just for the record the welfare state is responsible for replacing the father and husband in families. This basically means that women by their own evil nature will breed with alpha males regardless of whether they're stable or not.

All of a sudden Mr. Straight Laced and Moral doesn't seem so bad when you take away dem programs.

>>134684159
Lets just round women up in camps and slaughter them

That typically works for people who are causing problems in society

Does anyone have any statistics on how many people are having sex, and whom with? I'll start digging.

>>134684162
But I thought women wanted to be equal? How can one be equal if that one chooses to act as a freeloader? Tbh I don't care about sex at all. But because I don't have sex I am held back finacially and ridiculed by my peers. Your points are not well thought out and are fueled with frustration? I want you to explain why my points make you so frustrated?

>>134684559
I'm excited to find out anon.

>>134684678
>But I thought women wanted to be equal?
Sure they will say that, at the end of the day the majority of women ive fucked loved to be dominated in bed (choked, manhandled, wtv). This should really say it all.

>But because I don't have sex I am held back finacially
I doubt this

>and ridiculed by my peers
Aww you poor thing, Im sorry your feelings were hurt.

>I want you to explain why my points make you so frustrated?
Because you are acting like a manchild who wants everything handed to him.

>>134675083
Not a chad
Married now, before that it wasn't too hard to get laid.
Become an independent person, work on not hating yourself, or at least focusing on your shortcomings.
Realize you aren't eligible for 10's because you are a 3.
Stop complaining about things you can change. Women find it as disgusting as you find a fat chick gorging on cake.

>>134685018
Pretty much this OP
Grow up and become a man

>>134685018
This. It really isn't that hard. However, we are, I believe, witnessing a trend that is leading to societal ruin; It will just take multiple decades, if not centuries.

>>134680670
You ever consider the fact that non muscular guys are unattractive and that will make it harder for anyone to interact with you even?

>>134683921
>No, you can't.

Nigger traditionalism is all about making men work hard to have a wife and kids

Thats what makes civilization prosper. The "sluts" only appear in significant numbers when you start "liberating" women so they dont "need no man" in their early years of life, only to fuck men who are out of their league and be tossed aside over and over again, then finally settle with someone just for their money later on

THAT is fucking demoralizing to men, and makes them realize they should either give up entirely on life and be a mentally ill NEET waifu faggot or be a faggot chad dudebro who wastes all his time impressing women in the shallowest ways possible

Because anyone still foolish enough to focus solely on money or scientific advancement or what the fuck ever often just has it all stolen from them and gets cucked into oblivion by the niggertier "chads" going MUH DICK, MUH MUSCLES LOL U ARENT EVEN A MAN BRAH

That said im dedicated my life to being said niggertier chad because i cant imagine any other way of not wanting to fucking kill myself, so i guess im part of the fucking problem, but at least i dont pretend to be all high and mighty and more "manly" than people who actually focus solely on contributing to society rather than undermining that all with mindless sex appeal

>>134684162
>and financial security?

its 2017 bro, women dont need no man for no money (till they hit the wall)

>>134684492
>implying gassing single mothers and their future criminal bastard spawn wouldnt be a net benefit to society

>>134685018
That's fine and all but how do we keep her ex from bothering us?

>>134685012
Every women ive been with I got a really evil vibe from. Are all women this way? I know we meme a lot on here but are women actually evil? Starting to feel like they bring out the worst in us men and only divide men and cause us to fight with eachother where otherwise we would have unity in our beliefs or at least be able to find common ground.

>>134675083
>lack of pussy
No, it's the lack of any intimacy or trust. If a 10/10 approached me and said "I like you," completely seriously, but also mentioned she had another partner before me, I will lose all potential respect or trust I have for her. She becomes just another piece of degenerate scum to be purged, nothing more.
I'm 'antisocial' and 'violent' because the powers at large are actively encouraging this destruction of morality, and women keep falling for it. It's vile.

>>134685390
See the Iliad.

>>134685338
Damn you're right. I really appreciate your insight anon. Thank you for posting.

>>134685390
Yes, women by definition will fuck up an all-male environment by adding sexuality where it is not needed or wanted. This is why they were kept out of politics and the military, so those things could run based off of the very male traits of discipline, respect, and honor.
Women are almost complete sociopaths, and since the sexual (((revolution))), this facet of their nature has been praised, rather than scorned. Modern degeneracy is a result of this development, helped along by the kikes.

>>134685314
>You ever consider the fact that non muscular guys are unattractive and that will make it harder for anyone to interact with you even?

This is objectively not true. Don't be too skinny and don't be fat at all. Most guys really aren't that muscular that all. I'm normal size, 162 lbs and 5'11"

I've never felt like I needed to work out to get laid. If you have an ugly face and an unimpressive body than you work out to compensate for the face. If you're naturally attractive muscles only add to your appearance but without them it's not taking too much away. This is a meme bruh

>>134685624
What do you mean?

Does anyone have any personal anecdotes of these dynamics in play? For example, has anyone ever met a Chad? Has anyone ever known a women who fucked around in her twenties and hit the wall? Are these things being over exaggerated in our echo chamber?

>>134685924
>Are these things being over exaggerated in our echo chamber?

Things are always exaggerated to the max here. Take everything you read here with a massive grain of salt

>>134685314
Sure you can find a nonmuscular guy that is attractive. Always that one exception so fuck your grouping.
Also:
>1 post by this ID

>>134685919
The Iliad is a bigass poem, basically the bible of the ancient and classical Greeks. Its the story of a war that was fought basically over one woman, Helen of Troy.

>>134685924
I actually did.

I have a couple of friends that just got laid constanly until they decided to settle down and society give them free shit for it.

It's not a meme and obviously it's not a bad life if you can get it.

>>134686025
I've been here since the election. I know a few things.

>>134685924
more than i could keep track of

the worst is when its family

>>134685924
I have. what's your point? I'm a hybrid normie I go out I know plenty of people and what the /pol/acks say on here is actually true sadly. I met a femanon who admitted to browsing /pol/ at a bar recently and she was a spitting image of what all non chads on this /thread described, whore, degenerate, trying to cheat on her bf.

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>>134685338
Agreed.

>i cant imagine any other way of not wanting to fucking kill myself
The production of testosterone is tied to oxytocin receptors, the more you work out, the more sexual energy you pent-up; and the more you need intimacy and sexual release.

There's only two ways to stay sane and non-depressed as a man, you've chosen high testosterone, but it will involve a lot of pain along the way.
Personally, I've taken steps to reduce my testosterone levels. I still work out and play sports, but I wank more than I need to and I've adapted a generally apathetic, no-stress lifestyle.
Haven't felt more happy and at peace in a long time, just waiting for sexbots/vr or a collapse.

>>134685413
you're fucking crazy

>>134686116
Damn that really made me think

>>134685924
my cousin is a chad. he had 4 women over and took the he thought were hot into his room to have sex with and locked the other 2 out because they were fat. the fatties were banging on the wall asking to come in while he was dicking the other 2.

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>>134686469
Niceeeeeee

>>134686469
Please tell me you didn't witness this first hand.

>>134686387
No, he's actually the sane amongst the degenerate and insane.
There's a lot more to intimacy than sex, and you, along with 99.9% of women miss that point.

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>>134675083
There you go, that's a real ass, not the gigantic fucking thing on gigantic fucking thighs of fucking black cows

I wonder if Elliot Rodger shoukd of just taken a girl into his room and not cared if she liked him or not? That's the chad motto right? Just never care and just take their pants off? Why is rape even illegal what you Chads describe as sexual intercourse sounds a lot like rape to me.

>>134686387
>leaf
Elaborate. What have I said that is unreasonable?

>>134686723
missing the point on intimacy = scum to be purged? fuck off, idiot

>>134686943
Sowrry why does your country pronounce words like this leaf? Sounds like degeneracy

>>134677453
He's right, you know>>134680639
You are a whore, and the amount of sexual partners you have had is nothing to brag about. If anything, it only sheds light on the amount of times you have been dumped due to your worthlessness, or the amount of women you have used and tossed aside due to your childish inability to commit.

>>134686943
>scum to be purged?
100%, best exiled to africa or the middle east where she could taste the consequences of her decisions first hand.

The west was built by betas, on our (beta) values, they include trust & loyalty. If you can't see how they're important then you don't deserve their works.

what we really need is to do away with the monogamous "one man one woman" trope...

it does not work, it rewards betas, it promotes breeding of the lowest common denominator.

what we really need is for men to go through agoge like coming of age rights, have a 3-1 or better ration of women to men.

This way, the men who survive are actually the best, they get multiple women to exponentially breed the best genes.

They will have more sex, and the womynz will quickly get cold shoulders if they get out of line.

Then all we need to do away with universal sufferage, only those willing to fight for the country get to vote. dont exclude women overtly, but no special treatment, very few will get the vote as they will be unwilling to fight, those that are will probably deserve to vote anyways.

>>134679789
Pretty sure those are Hindus and not Muslims.

>>134687467
you are retarded.... honestly and loyalty are alpha traits.. betas are scum who just wait for their chance to stab you in the back.

alphas stab you in the front at worst...

>>134682363
such a fucking bitter virgin, you are pathetic. you are going to very unhappy if you never learn to incorporate your sexual instinct into your life. you dont make the rules buddy

>>134687484
I get your point, but you see how mudslime societies are?

And even if one generation is just alphas then, the alphas would come off with alpha-level violence to revolt against not getting pussy.

>>134686387
i agree with the guy, except only if she'd had a boyfriend within the last month or two, or had a highish number like 5+ at only the age 20 or something like that

which was every single single girl i met for a while, until i gave up

every single fucking girl apparently cant wait two fucking months before letting another guy jam their tongue down their throat

>>134687626
You can't expect that someone that had to live under constant betrayal to not be a betrayer himself.

>>134687484
I know youre larping but if youre not you are living in a fantasy world.
>fighting
I fight all the time it's never brought me pussy or success or status only hardships, jail and scorn.

>>134687775
you can expect him to despise it like he despises those who betrayed him

it´s the same thing with child abuse, some despise and fight it, some continue with being abusive themselves.

>>134687484
Meanwhile in your little fantasy land where you magically are not a fugly disgusting piece of shit and actually getting laid for once in your life, the hordes of sexless angry 'betas' are plotting to violently murder every single one of these 'alphas'. How ironic. Face it. Your stupid plan will only result in you swift demise with a violent end.

>>134687765
This

>>134687626
shut the fuck up about alphas and betas you fucking retard, in an ideal society, they do not exist, men are all similarly contributing and not trying to be fucking superficially "alpha" retards with big dicks and muscles or this or that retarded ass standard,

the idea of separating men from alpha to beta is so that women can have more alpha fucks and beta bucks, rather than just having a fucking balanced monogamous life with one partner

you "alpha" red pilled people are fucking stupid

>>134687979
It wasn't betrayal according to female society, he was a beta and it deserved what happened.

Therefore being an oportunistic isn't a morally ambiguous action, just the way the game it's played.

>>134687626
Maybe you should ease on hurling pointless insults at some random online and focus on your terms and how you structure arguments around them.

A beta is simply a man who is monogamous.
While an alpha is a man who is polygamous, if he lacks the ability to fulfill his desires we call him an omega.
Every other trait is derived from these preconditioned stances.

>>134688206
Haha, you're right.

>>134675647
That's literally like something a giga-triggered feminist would say.

>"waah the women aren't attracted to me so it's the beauty standards of men that are bad, so women are the ones that need to change"

>I never get any POWSI ;___;

go shoot up a neighborhood, Elliot

>>134677471
>>Women compete with each other to mate with men as far up the success hierarchy as possible.
>>Hierarchies naturally reward dominant personalities, therefore the more alpha the male, the more dominant his personality. Dominant women are therefore less efficient to cooperate with in mating than submissive women for alpha males as they seek dominance, and without female submission this forces both parties to pay the price of conflict to resolve disputes.
>>Thus, selection will reward female submission to roughly the same proportion it rewards male dominance.
>>As women seek dominance, and hierachies distribute power in pyramid (pareto) form, women will seek men at the top of the distribution (where they will be subject to the most marginal dominance) and polygamy will occur by default, unless Men redistribute them.
>>Therefore, monogamy is enforced by the upper class men only to receive some marginal social benefit in reciprocity from the lower and middle class men (from which they receive peace), their upper class female partners (from which they receive greater psychological bonding and therefore loyalty) and each other (from which they mutually insure each other against “cheating” so they don’t risk being outcompeted by each other in quantity of offspring, to instead focus their competition on the quality of offspring, which is not eugenic to society at large, but highly eugenic to the upper class itself).
>Monogamy causes a more even distribution of pussy and raises the satisfaction of a majority of men and lowers their propensity to violence. Diminish monogamy and permit cock carousel riding and growing dissatisfaction will manifest as violence. OP is right.
>The problem cannot be solved by convincing or persuading women to act contrary to their nature. You must analyze society and troubleshoot it in terms of causes and effects: power, institutions, norms, and incentives.
/thread

>>134688259
There is still the possibility to have some own intrinsic morality, which probably DOES correlate with alpha traits, like high IQ and EQ

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>>134675212
this

nigger tier behavior

>>134675083
>Why do normie's both liberal and conservative blame bullies and poverty for men becoming violent and anti social when the real cause is a lack of pussy
Wait wait wait waait
"Violent and Anti social" isn't shitposting in the internet, "violent and anti social" is being part of a street gang and robbing old people, raping women, and doing drive by shootings; and they all have a lot of pussy

>>134688295
There are no Alphas or Betas when it comes to humans. These are terms used by retarded muscle heads to make themselves feel special and justify their use of steroids and lack of intellectual pursuits, all while abandoning functioning human society for a more animalistic, wolf-like approach.

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>>134681353
>defend your lady's honor
I like going to the gym too, but you need to stop with that.

>>134688793
>I´m new/don´t belong here - The post

>>134688778
We can only hope that this is the case.

>>134686723
1 partner can't be deal-breaker, come on now.

>>134688919
>There are no Alphas or Betas when it comes to humans
Idgaf about the terms, the archetypes stand both in the sexual marketplace and in how men relate to the rest of society.
Although I would agree that they can also be viewed as a spectrum, we should focus on getting back the society in which they weren't even considered.

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>>134675083
sad thread

>>134675983
How does one become interesting? Honestly, I am a boring guy. All I do outside work is fish, kayak, and mountain bike. Oh and post here when I'm done.

>>134676422
the 'e' be silent

>>134689396
Archetypes made and used by morons, therefore not valid at all to the majority of functioning and productive society.

>>134689781
none of that sounds boring to me

>>134675212
Your a dumb fuck

>>134677471
pottery right here

reminder that organized gangs of single, underfucked, violent men are able and likely to end civilisation, the expected outcome should the current trend continue

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>>134675083
2D women never have any of these problems.

>>134677471
this
OP is right. Monogamy exists in many societies and religions as an established way for betas to have something in exchange for their contributions to society.
Arabs in Europe have a reputation for violence and sexual violence because of the extreme amount of pussy they can see, but can't touch

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>>134690148
Without these 'morons' you'd still be a clueless, cucked simp.
And if the origin of a concept bothers you beyond even considering it, then it's you that's the moron.

Believe in whatever you want, doesn't change reality. I suggest getting off of this website entirely if comfy delusions are what you seek.

>>134690200
You're* But I agree with you anon.

>>134675083

This thread is going to get a lot of cancerous comments but I will say this, OP is 100% correct.

Men commit 90%(ish, whatever) of actually serious violence. Am doing the worst of it, depending on the culture, all shares the same cause: sexual frustration. From the Eliot Rogers's to the jihadi camelfuckers, male sexual isolation is the Tinder's on which the world fucking burns.

It is a basic (and widely known) psychological fact that individuals whose needs for intimacy are fulfilled are less likely to participate in socially destructive behavior, be radicalized, etc.

The solution is, quite possibly, a government agency that would provide for those needs. Since that would destroy the current sexual market, and drive nearly every females stock down by a hefty margin, it will never happen, and we will live under the constant threat of terrorism an s school shootings. Until sexbots.

Interesting thought I had while writing this out, it doesn't seem to apply to blacks. Maybe it only describes human behavior.

>>134690776
>The solution is, quite possibly, a government agency that would provide for those needs
Fuck off commie

>>134690703
Haha, what? You don't even make sense. Humans are not wolves. The origin of the concept if from the societal structure of a wolf pack. Dumbass.

>>134690559
You also can't fuck them...
...YET

>>134690776
You know prostitution is widely legal in Europe right?

I wish I was more popular so I could fuck women and share them and their friends with you anon's not getting laid. We need to stop pretending that we are happy just because we are getting laid, have gf or are married and realize its miserable besides the cum in the fold aspect. We need to stop calling people losers, betas, virgins and start showing them empathy instead. If men really do lead women then we have lead them into being so cruel to these sexually frustrated individuals. I don't believe women being so cruel is mens fault but I do believe women are followers and mimic this chad culture of beating your chest the moment you see someone who has less than you. Let's open our eyes anons chads and no pussy getters unite for a common good to restore order to the west and find a piece of heaven on earth that we all can share.

>>134691412

paying for sex ruins the satisfaction

what good is sex if she's only doing it for $

>>134691412
>Europe
you mean the netherlands, germany, austria and probably some other places
there's no such country called europe nor will there ever be

>>134691735
>what good is sex if she's only doing it for $
implying that women want anytjhint else...

>>134690198
its boring to women. Having interests in life that dont yield a shit ton of money, to women, is simply nothing to care about. Its a status thing.

>>134691735
>>134691742
Just saying, this guy seems to be advocating government sex stores. That would probably be a hole in a wall with a vacuum cleaner, and them selling your sperm to some lab on an island trying to impregnate chimps.

>>134691828
You're fucking dense. Please realize that you don't need money to have sex and all you need is to put her hand in yours and go find somewhere private.

>>134688919
But there are, when we become uncivilized

Before civilization, 80% of men died without offspring

That happened throughout the course of human history, for at least 100 times as long as monogamy, or civilization has existed

Leftists want us to return to our natural ways, hence communism and capitalistic sexual selection

They accuse republicans of needing to "get with the times" or be "progressive", that traditionalism is old, and old is bad. Which is a fallacy in itself. But they're the ones actually degenerating into archaic uncivilized ways. Traditionalism is what makes us the most civilized and prosperous, because it guarantees a mate for each male, and gives us all something to work hard for. This is actually a relatively new and progressive way of humans living their lives. But leftists are too shortsighted to look at the overall course of human history and realize they're the ones who are advocating we live like savages

>>134690776
>The solution is, quite possibly, a government agency that would provide for those needs. Since that would destroy the current sexual market, and drive nearly every females stock down by a hefty margin, it will never happen

Or we could just not ban prostitution, which makes their pussies value inflate artificially, same as what happens to any commodity that is taken off the free market and shoved into the black market.

And maybe not pay women to shit out kids from chad, jamal and tyrone

>>134691412
And how many white males go on shooting sprees in Europe?

Oh right. Basically fucking none. We may be actually onto something here.

Who would have thought that banning hundreds of millions of men, isolated on an entire continent, from being able to directly buy women at their actual value, and instead forcing them to either lift weights all day and be a mindless chad, or get cucked out of their minds by the feminized legal system, would cause some of them to become violent sometimes.

Really makes you think

>>134692147
Sounds like a good script for a (((movie)))

>>134675083
Did you get this from generation kill?

>>134690976
Maybe it's not my points that need further explaining or scrutiny, maybe it's your iq?

>>134692251
Maybe that's how Planet of the Apes got started.

>>134692182
Not trolling you but you are prolly the most intelligent anon on this /thread

Everything you said I 100% agree with and I hope you post more here because you are a voice of reason.

>>134676880
>what's diverse about a country where everyone tries to fit in
nothing you dolt, that's why under its ability to unify behind a common cause they're incapable of being stopped.
get the fuck out of the circle and stay out
why is that so hard to understand?
Adapt to the situation and grow
learn to lead yourself through these obstacles not pull others away from their course to adjust to your journey
piss off you whiny cunt I don't have time to wash diapers all day
this is the attitude of the men who are leading their families into the future
whilst you beg and bitch behind the boot of the shitskins beneath are cities
fuckin RWDS WHEN????

>>134692182
One last thing I wanted to say to you anon is how wierd is it the progressive liberal types are always the ones to compliment eachother by saying the word savage
>You're so savage!
>He's so savage I want his cock!
>Savage bro!

>>134690776
This is sounding a lot like One State from We. People got to pick serial partners and had to have sex if presented with a sex ticket. Men and women could do this and it was considered a right.

>>134692166
Youre either attractive or youre influential. There is no other way, and im sorry to break it to you but based on a relatively recent study ( to which i have no link for, sadly ) out of 5 categories of attractiveness, about 70 or 80% of men fall into the bottom 2.
Women want to breed with the most influential, strongest man there is, its in their nature. However only a small number of men fit this narrative and due to sexual liberation women can openly pick and choose whichever man they want , and as it seems, they want the top 10% or nothing which is harmful to the general population. Its easier to get laid when youre young since what constitutes a successful man is much simpler and much easier to achieve, but as you get older it becomes more difficult, and lets not pretend like youre going to be rewarded, because as you get older these women will just fuck whatever seems good in their age group regardless of how id look in their future mostly, again, because of the status they can get immediately compared to other women
t. Non virgin.

>>134692631
I have a feeling you're going to die in a car accident or of alcoholism.

>>134690776
>Maybe it only describes human behavior.
>Maybe
Well yeah, we should probably ask a zoologist or something regarding nigger sexual dynamics.

>>134675083
Where i come from it is common that Beautiful girls go out with ugly guys, confidence is key

>>134692846
I guess i'm the top 1% cuz ive never had that problem. My biggest problem is I question why we don't raise the bar like Men and Women did when they formed conservative ideology in the first place?

>>134693049
this

>>134692182
should have quoted & greentexted
meant about the government part

I don't see how if sexual frustration is a problem should even be an question.
That's what the whole Indian & Chinese rape epidemics were and are about. Disproportional amount of males vs. females and everyone goes apeshit.

Stop enabling whores by being whores yourself or utterly shut the fuck up about muh used vaginas and degeneracy

>>134675083
>>Just remeber /pol/ alpha male and beta male are just words every person is unique and has worth. All this anon is proposing is that females start looking for real beauty in the opposite sex rather than just looking at swollen muscle tissue and materialism.

Sorry NEET, no one will ever love you.

>>134693175
word

>>134693258
Looks like I missed one of chads insults
>t. add NEET to the list

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>>134693258
I do, but only as a distant cousin.

>>134693068
Because raising the bar requires unity.
If you and me decided to not fuck unintelligent indecent whores that have nothing to offer but their holes and are ridiculously bad mothers, there are , for you and me 2 males, about a thousand of males who are just looking to put their penis into a vagina for about 5 minutes until they cum and be done with it.
You and i could hold all the moral and intelligent standards that we can possibly think of and determine between other, equally intelligent and moral, males but in the end we are ridiculously outnumbered and women follow the path of least resistance. Why should a woman bother to put in effort into being desirable to us, about 5 to 10 % of the population, when she can easily, without any effort, go to the rest of the 90 to 95% of the population and get whatever she fucking needs purely because some immoral and unintelligent idiot wants his penis in his vagina and will offer great amount of material goods for it ( material = mostly the only thing women care about ). Ive been with some ridiculously good women but in general id consider all of these relationships, intellectually, stepping down for me. All they did was simply being born and taken care of by their parents to turn out that way while i study, work out and practice many elements of my life to reach what i am. Its a joke, but a joke played on me in particular ( and maybe you) by other idiotic nonmoral males.

>>134693281
>>134693175
Seconded.
Only virgins (not involuntarily) and committed married man must be given voice regarding the topic of sexual degeneracy.

>>134676958
Cute Italian

>>134693175
The cause is ultimately feminism, which yes, is mens fault, but the answer isnt for alpha men to all just magically altruistically will themselves to not get laid all the time, because that simply will not happen

On another note, banning prostitution also creates a demand for sex trafficking and sex slaves, on top of increasing sexual frustration in males which causes other forms of violence.

So i really dont fucking get why the fuck girls are allowed to do porn and get gang banged and bukkaked by 50 men they dont know for thousands of dollars on camera and likely spend the rest of their lives in total infamy, and be ridiculed for it, but i cant fucking pay a girl to fuck me in private

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>>134693668
> Ive been with some ridiculously good women but in general id consider all of these relationships, intellectually, stepping down for me.

I know this feel bro! Maybe we are outnumbered but is there anyway men who feel as you or I do can start a country with these ideals like many have before?

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>>134693668
change needs entropy

>>134693991
>The cause is ultimately feminism, which yes, is mens fault
>feminism
>mens fault

KYS YOU KEK!

>>134688206
>in an ideal society, men are all similarly contributing

In an ideal society there are helicopter rides for commies such as you.

>>134694282
Stop meming and get serious

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STOP POSTING SEXUAL IMAGERY WITH YOUR POSTS, YOU AUTIST FAGGOT RETARD SCUM!

AND STOP RESPONDING TO AUTIST FAGGOT RETARD SCUM WHO POST SUCH IMAGERY.

YOU GODDAMN SUBHUMAN GARBAGE.

>>134694027
>>134694092


I dont think you understand what i mean by overnumbered. When i say 5% to 95% that might be an overstatement and even if there isnt, thats about 7.5 billion compared to a couple of million.
And >>134694027
Refer again to the path of least resistance, even if we start a country that is prosperous, why would a woman bother doing any effort to fit the standards, when she can have it equally as easy in any country other than our own, by simply being born. Women are not hard working, women do not improve, women do not hone their skills throughout years ( skills other than manipulating men and their, equally, retarded friends).
Our country would have to have a minimal wage as big as the average wage of the people that have the most women, which would be 6 figures i believe ( I could be wrong).
As ive said, its not that simple. I am discussing the rich part but not the influential part. One of my ex's is now with some, absolute, imbecile and from what i gathered ( from 1 talk ive had with her since departing) she mentions the fact that he is the top of his "friend" circle the most. There is the influential part which is much more complex but equally as valid. But when it comes to pure material goods, our country would have to be, quite literally, the richest country on the planet, so rich that even the poorest man is earning more than 6 figures of american dollars.
>>134694092
Id say that change, most of all, requires unity. Believe it or not but your biggest issue when it comes to indecent whoreish women are indecent whoreish men. Men dont realise that women are submissive as fuck and theyll listen to anything you say if you say it with enough authority in proper measures. The issue is if your authority requires some effort, they can simply chose a man whose a authority requires no effort.

>>134694146
because we gave them the right to vote

we will be doomed to repeat our mistakes throughout history if we cant even admit to ourselves what they are

>>134694282
in a purely capitalist economy, sexual relationships will occur in a more communist type of way, because women arent given socialist safety nets to waste their youth fucking men who are out of their league and or dont care about them

thats the irony in communism and shit, they want everything to be equal, yet in making men and women economically "equal", they're creating a system where relationships are a total rat race and most people end up losing in the end

>>134694894
There isn't an incentive for anyone that doesn't share your problems to join your cause.

>>134694894
Meaning unless something happens, the only way for change to happen is to rather invest that energy to change yourself.

>>134694869
what day of no fap are you on anon?

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>>134694869

>>134695244
I completely agree with you. However id argue that whoever doesnt share my problems is an immoral and unintelligent waste of oxygen who should be removed off of the planet in favor of the future generations. Sadly, no matter what others say, everyone is individualistic in their very nature one way or another. Only a small number of people care about helping another if it means no help, what so ever, to themselves.
>>134695420
Indeed, a step to changing everyone is changing yourself. Being the shining beacon in the world of darkness, there is no better advertisement. However being 1 in about 3,7 billion, no matter how right you are , will lead to nothing. How many geniuses throughout history have been considered bat shit insane during their lives? You should not only aim to change yourself for the better ( relatively ) but to change your environment for the better as well ( neighbors, family, friends). The reason i said the "relatively" part is because if whats considered absolutely good is jumping off of a cliff, by not jumping off of one you risk social alienation and hate by everyone around you, so there is a duality between whats good for you now, materially and morally, and what will be good for the next generation.

>>134675212
The only marketplace that matters is the free market.
Taught myself how to have multiple orgasms so I NEVER feel the need to get a gf or sex ever again. Now all I do is make money because that drive is always satisfied now.

Anyone want to teach yourself look up The MultiOrgasmic Male.

>>134675083
i'd dive down on that

>>134695420
men could band together and fight feminism before we're overran by muslim hordes thanks to birthrates, but our nature is to just throw each other under the bus to get laid

women compete with each other as well somewhat, but its also in their nature to band together and deceive and complain and lower everyones standards, once a society is prosperous enough for them to have the privilege to sit around doing so, hence feminisms existence

mens nature is to kill, be competitive and shit all over each other and endlessly increase the standards held for ourselves, which is kinda why we build civilization, but its also how we allow it to be destroyed, sometime after we create enough prosperity for the cancer of feminism to begin proliferating

>>134695974
Exactly, there's no point fighting a losing battle. Only to work within the limits, and hope for the best.

>>134675083

If they admit that they would have to try to be proactive and fix it

This means either robopussy or legalized prostitution.

This means women lose their ironclad stranglehold they have on western society by controlling the men via sex

This means they will not do it

Expect the next civil war to be fought over whether or not men can fuck robots. (Women say no it's demeaning and makes women into sex objects)

>>134675212
fpbp

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>>134694894
Let me set the record straight. Men without a women atm think women want material goods, muh alpha status or in other words confidence but the truth is women are just horny if you just decide to make a move with 8/10 girls they will leave the room with you to make love no matter what you look like or how rich you are. The one true thing said on this thread is just like men being rewarded for being dominant which is basically saying
>oh fuck it
and just going for the girl with instinct women are rewarded in the same way for being submissive. Now that thats out of the way let's talk about men who are with a girl or married. These men complain about all the sexual partners their wife has or how much money and little work she does or their womens political views. On the opposite side of the spectrum you have women with a bf, FWB or husband because lets be honest there's almost no women not having sex with some guy or lesbian. That being said women's complaints are why don't he settle down with me? They don't realize by treating men so poorly with sex and laughing at them for commitment they have sewed their own fate and caused a ripple where men think to get married, love or cherish a women is to be a muh beta male, virgin, NEET, low t, loser and will deminish their sexual market value and to some degree they are right. The anwser is i don't really have a answer but my observation is everyone is unhappy wether they have a partner or not. ive only had sex with one women and only one time but when I focus on myself and not sex i'm as happy as could be.

>>134692892
you're absolutely delusional and there is no basis to your claim
kick rocks

>>134696384
Feminism is an idea, you can't exactly invade the nation of Feministan, and kill the feminian scurge.
You assume an idea like that can easily take over and cement itself. There is a chance that it just will collapse like a house of cards, as more hypocrisy is exposed. Just like at public perception of SJW culture. It's getting there.

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>>134696804
you mad bro?

>>134675083
That's a beta male attitude. If you knew anything about women OP is that they want to be dominated. Persuading a female won't change the subconscious of her wanting a strong, wise dominating partner

>>134697044
scourge* just look at the*
sorry bad english day

>>134697164
I like how those words you reply with get you through the day as you sit in your basement but let's get back to the real question and not how dominating a man is in the bedroom.

>>134696384
I am going to tie what you are saying to the jews seeing as this is pol and its incredibly fitting.
The reason the jews can scheme their way out of anything and be as disgusting as they are is unity. Imagine if men, back in the day, decided to fuck off feminism and all this cuckholdry, everything would be different. But in reality, in creating a life in which women are moral, intelligent, capable and good mothers, your biggest enemy is your male neighbor. People who think like you and i, and aim to make a country inside of which everyone has their distinct role and is important within it, which is based on research and history, we are a completely ignored minority. Because for every man that holds standards there are a thousand men who think "hole is a hole."
>>134696426
Id say there is one thing to fighting a losing battle and that is dignity. Id rather die in the most gruesome death than abandon everything i sand for. It is a shame that most have forgotten or dont care about this principle. It is all about personal profit. Sell your neighbor that you dont know too well, who cares, you get some material goods out of it, right? Sell the prosperity of the next generation at least you get material goods and tons of pussy right? Where do we draw the limits? When we turn to niggers? By that time itll be too late.
>>134696784
The thing is, getting laid is easy as shit. But getting laid does not provide anything, what so ever, for the future generations and by that extend the planet. Look at all the bix nood niggers, they all get "tons of pussy" and they never get married, 80% of black children come from single parent households and 90% of black children ( in america, which are the statistics i speak of ) are absolute fucking trash that do nothing but collect welfare.

>>134697338
You've met every dissenting opinion in this thread with baseless, childish, personal insults. Your lack of brevity, thought out arguments, and insistent need to blame your failures with women on society showcases your lack of maturity.

>>134697431
we are in agreement. Traditional roles and conservertive values are what brings value to male and female relationships. My point was women don't want to whore out they want to be mothers and men want to settle down, get married and raise a family but this culture all civilized nations are caught in is pushing us in a direction that no one even those with success are enjoying. we are not dolphins and I think its time we stop acting like we are.
>inb4 but muh mammals of the sea

>>134697431
It really does feel like the jews or someone is pushing this culture tho because when you have a heart to heart conversation with chad, or roastie, or beta male they all want traditional gender roles, familys and trust

>>134697695
nice pasta buddy. keep trying

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>>134675212
>Get laid
3d is trash, 2d is the ultimate redpill

>>134692519
You are an incredibly stupid person

>>134683545
I used to think that women weren't wooed by status, then I got into med school.

On the other hand, shit's hard. I expect to have sex with no less than 200 women in exchange for the effort I invest here. Before, when I was a NEET, I thought that one woman was enough for me.

Status can be seen as a high place, but it's also a vantage point--women being one of the many things I've surveyed.

>>134692182

> Who would have thought that banning hundreds of millions of men, isolated on an entire continent, from being able to directly buy women at their actual value, and instead forcing them to either lift weights all day and be a mindless chad, or get cucked out of their minds by the feminized legal system, would cause some of them to become violent sometimes.

Actually.......you never hear a mass shooters wife or girlfriend make a statement about it because they don't....exist. I think you've maybe just hit the nail on the head there guy.....mind blown.

>>134698246
Yes, that's exactly what I said to you.
Maybe not all hope is lost after all.

>>134675083
>I'm a virgin because women are cruel!
Of course.

>>134697044
>There is a chance that it just will collapse like a house of cards

name 1 time in human history where a civilization got rid of its feminist influences without completely committing suicide

much less, feminism alone spontaneously collapsing in on itself without a cohesive movement fighting it, leaving civilization in tact

what are you smoking?

>>134698255
>med school
>browsing /pol/

hahah my fucking sides! good one!

>>134697865
Yes, influence of media and surrounding is incredibly strong. Women in general spend almost insignificant time looking at alternative sources of entertainment and information ( not tv) and it effects us all. You notice how whenever a woman tries to prove herself as strong and independent she compares herself to a man? No matter what they do, they know they are inferior in the subjects they participate in. Ive mentioned it before but women dont know that there is tomorrow ( abit extreme i know ). They simply look for immediate profit when theyre young and they can abuse the shit out of the fact that they were born a certain way, because its easy as fuck and thats how they evolved. Once they reach a certain age where their genetics regarding their body are not relevant because they are only a shadow of their former self, thats when they want to "settle down" because they finished having "their fun." But their "fun" was nothing more than taking advantage of their youth and abusing it to no end while doing absolutely fucking nothing. And once their mother instinct kicks in, 20 years after their prime, they think they are somehow worthy of even being looked at, let alone married. But again, there are so many men left out in their youth by the fact that women go for these ridiculously high standards purely because theyll get them anyway, that theyll marry these women anyway further encouraging this sort of behavior. When youre negotiating always put your price to a level thats something unobtainable and let others try to reach you. That way if your product is worth 5 dollars. You meet at half way at 10 dollars if you advertised it for 15. And both parties end up happy even though you ripped them off. Thats how women work.
>>134698024
Its quite simply that whores and chads want to abuse the living shit out of their initial benefits without bothering to improve themselves.

>>134698488
digits so ill take the bait, the post is not about you or I it's about the west wondering everytime some mass shooting happens why HE did it? We know why because women wouldnt give him a shot and it made him into a outcast.

>>134698792
Semester starts tomorrow. Look up any academic calendars. 4chan is a habit from the four years I was NEET.

>>134692182
>80% of men died without offspring
Due to wars. This has nothing to do with them being 'betas'. Would you call these childless warriors 'betas'? Do you not see the flaw in your logic? If anything the 'betas' would be the cowardly skinnyfat cunts that order the real men to die battle as they grab all the women for themselves after the fact.
>That happened throughout the course of human history, for at least 100 times as long as monogamy, or civilization has existed
And there were a lot more women than men due to the men dying in battle. There is a difference between polygamy due to excess woman, and polygamy do to barbaric greed.
>Leftists want us to return to our natural ways
Is that why they support transgenderism and faggotry? Is this natural to you?
I agree with the rest of what you say, but you have some seriously flawed logic in the rest.

>>134697431
Fair enough, but what fight against though? Killing random feminists only reinforces the idea.
>>134698629
Absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence. Feminism is a very recent concept. And be honest, can you name a civilization that got rid of it and commited suicide? I can't.

>>134698824
A few things id like to comment on, tho I do see where you are coming from. Number one older women are easy and have never asked me to settle down they only wanted my dick but I wanted a real relationship and not let my spite for the roastie deminish my chances at a happy marriage. Number two young women with great sexual market value might fuck chad but then they complain about where are all the nice guys when theyve rejected them all and made them feel worthless? It's weird i kinda feel like the buddhists were right about MAYA and people are mentally ill and self destructive. Men are this way to they ask why am i not rich? But the answer is so clear because you do not save your money and waste it on booze and things to chase women around with. I think are education system is to blame. The parents are not teaching their kids a good plan for life and neither are the schools so males and females are wasting their entire fertile years learning from their mistakes instead of building their futures.

>>134699000
alright alright I was just pulling your leg buddy i believe yah

>>134698423
You have no argument, there are no alphas or betas in human society.

>>134690703
I need help understanding the final panel. Is the "girl" a trap or is getting into a relationship with a girl getting trapped by the vaginal jew?

>>134699820
He says while in the Congo right now there are two dudes letting their pet pygmies fight eachother.

>>134699375
There is simply no fight. There are only 2 options, win and have no dignity and lose and save your dignity.
Every problem, not only inside or between countries but in the universe, would be resolved in a matter of days if humans were to simply reach unity. Until 80 to 100% of men unite under the same goal of benefiting future generations and life on earth, women wont do it either. I always advise, first kill the traitor than the enemy. However violence wont solve this issue until its a really big amount of violence of global scales. Best a single man can do is influence his surrounding to follow the path that helps future generations and hope it spreads enough.
>>134699655
Sure, older women can also be whores, in fact maybe even bigger ones since less people want them and theyre thirsty. Thing about all these women asking where are the good men gone? Is that they do not bother meddling with any good men purely because they do not immediately give them status by being with them. No woman wants to be with that poor nerd that studies all the time because he doesnt flaunt his money or doesnt have money to do so. All of this starts at early age where mammas and daddys boys who have alot of cash get to spend it mindlessly because they dont know what it means to earn money and this attracts women, the other part of males that do not have such benefits are left out and become bitter and angry, loneliness is the worst situation a man can be in and this is a sentence coming from a person thats been in a psych ward for depression, anxiety and schizoprhenia. Id rather be all these things than lonely( lonely is not the same as alone ). And then what happens, daddys boys ruin their fathers companies because they are imbeciles more often than not and these poor nerds start earning cash and women start flocking to them, but they dont want them at all and for a good reason.

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>>134699820
The very fact this sub is even discussing the idea is proof of the contrary, even if only up to a degree; which still proves it being a spectrum.

This is my last reply to you since you've provided 0 points but some cheap insults and skepticism.

>>134700191
Yes, it entails today's legal system and family courts.

>>134700309
>human societies

>>134700528
Good, go be an epsilon semi moron somewhere else.

>>134700382
Thanks for elabroating I totally understand what you mean't now and I 100% agree. You seem like a smart guy so I guess my question for you would be what do these poor nerds do? For myself I really reject the idea of ever finding a women because I would rather be alone than share the fruits of my hard work at the end of my journey with a female who acts like a parasite. To me she either has to ride with me on the journey to the top or no ride at all. Females riding the cock carousel and meeting me at the top when i'm finished working and she's finished being a roastie just won't work. 40% of millenial women are unmarried for a reason and that number is growing. Not sure whats gonna happen to birth rates but women need to learn how to be companions and partners and not just free loaders and cum dumpsters. That was the point of this thread that it really seems women can never be held responsible for the problems they create by a lack of morality. I can steal that doesn't mean I should steal or I will steal, I just feel like females don't understand the statement I just made.

>>134700877
Replace pygmies with midgets & Congo with Las Vegas.

>>134675083

Think she ever got her shitter licked like an ant eater?

>>134701288
Neither does chad for that matter, it's no wonder females and chad go hand in hand they both have arrested development. real brainlets

>>134701483
idk but i'm interested

>>134701288
Females shouldnt be held responsible even for the things they eat, theyre simply that stupid on the grand scale. What do these nerds do?
Influence their surrounding to follow the better path and try to find unity within men. Unity is the strongest thing there is. Yeah you could beat up a 100 babies, but you wouldnt come close to 20 dwarves no matter how big you are. They should take small steps, big for them but small for the man kind ( he he ) , because in reality no matter what you do now is going to be that influential. But a building is not built at once, instead its built brick by brick. We should aim to be those bricks, nerd or not.

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>>134701397
>moving the goal posts
So the fighting midgets are 'beta' while the fat out of shape guy that does not fight, and capitalizes on the real men fighting is 'alpha'. Don't you see the contradictions and flaws in your logic? There are no alphas or betas in human societies.

>>134701962
Well said.Your conversation with me might of been the first bricks layed depending on if the other anons in this /thread can put down their swords labeled
>beta male, virigin, NEET, low t, loser, supreme gentleman
and actually remeber how it felt to have that women cheat on you who you thought you really had something with. Or how it felt or will feel when that roastie wife takes half your income and maybe your kids because she finds some reason why it's not working anymore. Unity above all, I like that anon and I will keep your words in mind as I continue the good fight.

>>134702513
I brought alot of positivity so i think its only fair to be negative for a bit.
The path of least resistance is sadly the path not only women thread. Most men do so as well, it is in their nature. However to get to the point we are in today, in the town you live in, we had to surpass a lot of our nature, it is possible, but most dont try. A lot of men wont follow this path and due to that even less women, this change wont happen in a week, but maybe if we play our cards properly itll happen in a decade. And even if it happens after our life time, if there is such thing as after life, youll sit in it peacefully witnessing fruits of your labor and knowing you did well. And if there isnt, when you are at your death bed, have no regrets for you fought for the future and not for today. Not all of us can be nikola tesla or socrates and soon, but we can all have their mind set.

>>134699375
>Feminism is a very recent concept

no it isnt

>>134685338
There's more than one type of Chad. Sure, you have your meathead Chads who play the numbers game and do very well in the sex market, but you also have status Chads. I'm in med school and women literally throw themselves at me when they discover my status. I'll be at a friend's birthday party and answer the obligatory "what do you do?" question, and if a girl overhears, there's a strong chance she's going to be proposing sex soon. Dog-sitting for my sister and out walking, stuck at a red light with a talkative chick, same story. At another sister's housewarming introducing myself to the guests, same story. Heck, my standards went from 4/10 girls when I was NEET, to 7.5/10 White/Asian girls now. Looks, status, and many more things can make you a Chad. However, these Chads operate in parallel, not in unison.

>>134703421
That wasn't negative at all I took it as positive but for someone who might think otherwise I would say you were being a realist. Also I like how you brought up Tesla he's a great example of what you and I were talking about.

>>134699368
none of that makes any difference

yes, beta males are disposable males

i dont think the ones giving orders were the weaklings

>>134703816
>going for girls by using money
>"hey lol im on birth control"
>"Jk im not"

>half your paychecks are now stolen from you for the next 18 years even though a male lying about using contraceptives is considered rape in our cucked western civilization

smart

>>134703850
Tesla has a quote talking about people stealing his inventions from him and providing alternatives. He said something along the lines of "They provide for today and i provide for tomorrow. Let future answer who was the greatest." And i feel like we should all live like that. If a mind like teslas was some bix nood nigger mind that wanted to just get pussy money weed all a nigga need type shit we literally wouldnt be here. Fuck the present, the present is always trash, because no matter what you do it doesnt improve the present greatly, but it may improve the future greatly. In a way same goes for all the negative things too, but i hope that at least the positive to negative is being outnumbered 4 to 1, if not i suppose we do deserve nothing, not on a individual basis, but on a global basis of us as humans.

>>134704155
Digits confirm this

>>134704215
Have you ever read this article about why Tesla never married anon?
http://www.returnofkings.com/43036/nikola-tesla-explains-why-he-never-married

>>134704155
No worries, I got a vasectomy when I was NEET and blackpilled, though I had to visit over a dozen doctors. I have no fucking idea how I don't have an STD yet.

>>134704742
It's prolly because you're not having sex

>>134704427
This is a pretty interesting article and ill read about it more shortly. I know tesla said that a true scientist has no passion for women for his passion is put towards his craft. But this article raises some other points i didnt know about,
Honestly, i might be biased towards teslas opinions because i believe he is not ahead of his time, but ahead of time itself.

>>134698230
Die pedo

>>134703816
what city do you live in?

>>134704968
Meanwhile Elon "roastie" Musk is pursing actors like Johnny Depp's sloppy seconds and slandering Tesla's great name and legacy. I agree with you on Tesla but what are your opinions on Musk? I think Elon is a fraud riding on the coatails of Tesla's great name.

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>>134703877
>took orders from the WWE corporation for years, was told when to win and when to lose, typical 'beta'
Your logic is flawed. Your eyes are clouded. You thoughts are contradictory. There are no alphas or betas.

>>134704742
there are several you may have without ever realizing

>>134704968
Musk is pursuing*

>>134705397
Keep red pilling them leaf. Some of you leaves are all right from what ive seen in this /thread

L

>>134705405
sounds like he took the HPV pill

>>134705319
Pennsylvania

>>134705405
Very true. I can't be genetically immune to them all. I predict that I'll see a few manifest the next time I get a cold or flu which weakens my immune system.

>>134705326
I think he is doing the numbers game, he has so many thoughts and ideas but only 2 of them has been thoroughly thought of, spacex and tesla. You know, people rip alot on tesla for taking the government gibs, but every renewable energy source is doing just that, if anything i believe that tesla is advancing the fastest out of all renewable government gibs ideas. Spacex has produced recycleable rockets which, in my mind, is enough for a man to do.
Its like chasing women, some try few times but have a really good strategy, some try a million times with a poor one. In the end they all reach the same goal of having 1 woman they agree with. I feel like elon has that 1 woman already ( spacex ) if he really wants to go for another one, sure thing. In reality he is sucking americas money and in my mind thats a good thing, america spends too much money on things that shouldnt have that much money put into them. If in any case he is pretending to be the new tesla, then id say he is overestimating himself by a large margin.
If anything i admire his way of thinking, he shows the "if you want something to be done do it yourself" idea with electronic cars. His tesla motors cars need better batteries? Hes opening his own battery factory.
Sometimes you try and you fail however. Most people dont realise how many times they failed in their lives and id argue that they get to rip on musk because his failures are public and theirs are not and as such they are to be viewed through their own, biased, lens.

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>>134704968
Saw a comment that stated how women still have the same mindset of favoring caveman traits that function well in a primitive world, but are repelled by traits that help advance society. really good comments in that news article!

>>134705555
checked

>>134705875
I am not a religious person, even slightly, but ill always respect my theology teacher for stating simply one thing: "First pull a splinter out of your own eye, then a tree from another mans eye.
>>134705948
Id say that women are simply incapable of understanding the historical and traditional framework within they live in. They feel like all they have has been and always will be, i believe this is why they indulge in such relentless hedonism, they simply dont understand the consequences.
An opportunity to do something wrong rises almost every day but an opportunity to do something good is much rarer than that, as such it is easy to do whats wrong but more difficult to recognise and do whats right.

>>134705622
The only thing I know I have for sure is oral herpes. I got it from my second gf, I thought she was a safe bet because she was a virgin and had never kissed a guy before me. inb4 "lol she lied to u she was secretly a whore lololol", sorry, not this time. She got it from her filthy mother kissing her too much as a child. People treat oral herpes like it's no big deal, but most don't even know what it is, naive kids fall for the "cold sore" meme and don't even find out it's herpes until they research it. It really pisses me off how people blow it off even though it's more dangerous than HIV in some ways, and far more dangerous than genital herpes. The big problem with oral herpes is that likes to hibernate on nerve endings in your face that happen to be very close to your brain. Every time the virus flares, it slides up the nerve and gets just a little bit closer to your brain. Once it finally gets there, it's game over, you now have herpes on your brain and are guaranteed to develop a neurological disorder ramping up to full blown Alzheimer's. Some people even go blind. It's like having microscopic time bombs embedded in your face.

>>134706395
"Good" and "bad" are subjective concepts. Women wall leap at the good act of donating food to Africa to virtue signal, but they don't understand how this could be bad in the endgame.

>>134707333
Indeed they are. And even if they were objective, there still arent many things that are 100% good nor 100% bad, life has many nuances.
But the second part of your claim actually supports mine. You see, when women look at whats "good' they look at whats beneficial today rather than whats beneficial tomorrow. Id argue that capability of looking days and years into the future and preparing for such is what differentiates us from animals the most. Women fail to see whats behind the eyes, it is in their nature, they are materialistic creatures in every specie since the dawn of time, males are too in this regard, however a male human and a male chimpanzee differentiate more than a female human and a female chimpanzee id say.

>>134707991
Very true. In the past, the shortsightedness was curbed by their partner. I wonder what the era of independent womyn will culminate with.