CUCKSTIANITY GENERAL

Bruh did you never heard about dyonysus cults?
Pagans were degenerates christians outbred them
Also history always repeats itself

>>134669513
The roman's paganism was a shitty watered down version of the greeks.

>>134670248

mystery cults weren't the majority of the population. mostly just weirdos. Rome's degeneracy waxed and waned over the years but I wouldn't conflate either religion with it

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>>134670248
>dyonysus cults
Not an argument. A cult does not represent greco-roman paganism as a whole. It is foolish to say that, for example Slavic or Germanic paganism were the same
>Pagans were degenerates
[CITATION NEEDED]
Also, is there anything more degenerate than turning the other cheek and living in a shed so tyrone can have you bed
>inb4 muh morals
Moral values have been around since Plato and are not a Christian creation but a delusion you've talked yourselves
>christians outbred them
lol what are the northern crusades?

>>134671492
>northern crusades
>rome
You're wrong about everything. And Plato is not part of roman paganism

Christianity = Western Civilization

Reminder that all non Christians are no different than the 70iq invaders from africa.

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>>134669513
Religion is not the cause, perhaps it can delay it.

>>134670248
>Christcucks outbred followers of the old gods
>Rome promptly falls
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>>134671841
>t. atheist larper
Yeah we saw your flag.

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>>134671710
>northern crusades
said it about christianity as a whole, not exclusively rome,
As for the outbreeding part, it it not fully true, the christians weren't part of the pagan Rome's army. The imperial cult, forced any soilder to recognise the emperor as divine, which is a contrast of the christian belief that there is one god. Therefore, while the pagans were dying in the fileds trying to keep rome safe, the christians were breeding like rabbits.
A nice jewish trick, won't you say?
>And Plato is not part of roman paganism
Read carefully, i referred to greco-roman paganism

>>134671841
>what is the renassiance?

>>134672686
>the christians weren't part of the pagan Rome's army. The imperial cult, forced any soilder to recognise the emperor as divine
Neither true. Rather soon at least among front soldiers christians got tolerated because there were so many of them. In the civil war noone could afford to discriminate against christian man power

>A nice jewish trick, won't you say?
No. The jews fought bravely to defend Israel from the foreign occupationers.

Neither is Plato part of Greek paganism. Have you even read Plato? Don't answer I already know.

>>134672686
Also thor's hammer looks weird stilisized like this. Does nordic paganism not have a symbol for the whole religion?

Why are Pagans so grossly retarded

Goddamn Augustus was 10/10. Muh dik.

>>134669513
>>134669513
ironically enough christianity became more popular to counter such things.

Op is a faggot. Christianity was an ideal meant to counter nihilism of a degenerate culture.

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>>134669513
>Pagan

>>134670883
they wore more about Law then being religious

>>134669513
DELET THIS

>>134669513

Saying Christianity is jewdized is retarded. Under pagan Rome, Jews enjoyed full citizen rights, as in most of the pagan world, including Greece, Syria, etc. However, once Christianity became a political power, around the 4-5th centuries, Rome made it illegal for Christian citizens to practice Jewish customs, and even turned many pagan practices into Christian traditions.

By the turn of the 11th century, most European nations were already Christian and totally different from rabbinic or Talmudic Judaism. In fact, no christian nation has ever historically adapted anything from Judaism. (Which is why I use the term Christian values, not Judeo-Christian, as that never existed). There was no commonality in the practice of these two religions. Even the interpretation of biblical laws were different. In fact, even Jesus himself condemned the Jews of his day and all their unbiblical or extrabiblical laws. Jesus was one of the biggest opponents of "Jews", which is why they passionately hated him.

By the 16th century, many European countries already had a history of expelling Jews or making them pay extra fines/taxes to live there. Most Jews didn't enjoy full citizenship rights either.

The only reason why "Jews" have been able to get such power, wealth, etc, in these recent past centuries is because they hate Christians. Their whole purpose of gaining global power and influence is to destroy Christianity and Christendom (the Western world), or White people, who are the ones who spread Christianity to other peoples.

Jews were able to live with pagans because they mutually did not pose a threat to each other. They stayed separate for the most part, e.g. kept to themselves (in designated communities, e.g. Greece, Syria, etc). When Christianity came to the forefront, the world was turned upside down, and Christianity gained the most influence in every aspect of life. This turned certain "Jews" in power to become anti-christ, just as when Jesus himself came.

>>134674407
Christianity is the retarded child of Roman mystery cults and Judaism.

But go on, goy. Pray to the son of a jewess and read the Holy Torah. Nothing jewish at all.

>>134674623
>Pagan effortposts

>>134674407
>Christian effortposts

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Poland:
>made Jesus Christ their King
>97% Christian
>vast overwhelmingly majority white
>VICIOUSLY anti Muslim and daily beat leftists
>fully aware of the Jews

Sweden (or anywhere "Pagans" are):
>Majority atheists
>"Sons of Odin" Pagans don't do shit
>overwhelmed by Muslims
>literally a caliphate at this point

Pagans are worthless, and are simply too filled with vanity and pride to submit to Almighty God, and the Lord Jesus Christ. Because atheism was mocked into oblivion, and because it is, by nature, associated with leftism, the ones who abandoned that sinking ship hopped onto the Pagan one to further avoid accepting Christ. So now, they are simply the same old God hating heathens as before, except now LARPing as tree worshipers.

Begone from here, swine. Christ, and the ages, have conquered you.

>>134675099
One's handwritten, the other copypasted.

>>134675150

Poland is more culturally pagan than Christian.

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>>134675560
No amount of ridiculous lies can change the truth.

>>134675150
>97% Christian
oh sweety

>>134669513
Weakness is ingrained in Christianity. Its in its teachings. Even when the Church was supposedly at its strongest, its still barely repelled Islamic Jihad.
And don't get me started on literally "my wifes son" aka Jesus.

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>>134675174
>Pagans are so anachronistic they can't even copy and paste their good posts to replace their shit low IQ/effort ones

>>134675955
I thought when you used the word "effort" you actually meant it, sorry.

>>134675735

Jews hate Jesus Christ because Christianity demands that they denounce their racial heritage, you retard.

Only a goy would fall for something as stupid as that.


>Racist
>fertility festivals
>strong and extraverted
>punishes criminals severely

All of these things go against Christian teachings and you know they do so why on Earth would you assume what people admire in Poland is thanks to Christianity? Get a grip.

Right Wing politics are concerned with the long-term survival of Civilization

Christianity is only concerned with personal salvation to become part of a nebulous afterlife for which no evidence exists, and for which this world needs to be sacrificed, which is best expressed in the way early christians like Martin of Tours refused to fight enemies of their nations, insofar killing in this world could cost them heaven

When Jesus says "if they take your coat, let them have your shirt as well", "do not resist evil", "I have come to turn a man against his own household", "if you don't hate your self and your own family you can't follow me", "love your enemies, pray for your persecutors", "the meek will inherit the Earth", "those that wanna die will live", "blessed are those the persecuted, for they will be my Kingdom", "do not save treasures for tomorrow", "carry your cross so that you can receive eternal reward", "Sell all your possessions and give the money to the poor, and you'll have treasure in heaven", "it is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye than for the rich to enter Heaven", "Woe to you who are well fed, Woe to you who laugh, for you will mourn and weep"...

... he is not kidding, or meaning the opposite, but actually setting down a morality where the world is a lie and only the afterlife is the real deal, so destroying your life in this world, "carrying your cross" as he says, is completely logical

/pol/ "christians" seem to believe Jesus actually meant the OPPOSITE of all that, and that Jesus wants you to defend your family, that Jesus wants you to kill your enemies, to become prosperous, well-fed and rich in this world, and to avoid persecution and death!

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>>134676097
>IT'S NOT BECAUSE OF JESUS CHRIST GOY

I thank God every day that I do not have it in my heart to be as much of a soulless liar as someone like you, with no honesty, integrity or honor.

>>134676365
Only a person that does not actually believe in the Heaven for the persecuted, the meek, and the martyred would actually re-interpret Christianity as a cult of earthly power which declares "the strong shall inherit the Earth", "my kingdom is of this world" and "you must destroy the enemies of your nation"

Only some one that just wanna use Christianity as an empty shell devoid of any true religious promises would claim that Paul and Peter misinterpreted Jesus when they submitted to their enemies and died to them while praying for them, instead of fighting the romans back and establishing a crusader kingdom, thing that one would expect them to do if Jesus meant "be a fighter and impose your will on your enemies" when he said "love your enemies and lend all they need to them without expecting anything in return"

But using Christianity as a shell devoid of any religious promises simply allows its poisonous morality to survive into the next generation.

You can tell your children that Jesus wanted them to be earthly warriors because "I didn't come to bring peace", but you can't stop them from reading the rest of the paragraph and realizing what Jesus wanted is for them to put christian morality above the good-being of their own families.

>>134676440
You can tell your children that Jesus wanted them to be earthly warriors because "Buy a sword", but you can't stop them from reading the next chapter and realizing that Jesus stopped Peter from using the sword to fight and defeat the romans, and reprimanded him for misunderstanding, all while asking him to carry his own cross (Peter, fully realizing that Jesus meant all the stuff about embracing death and his kingdom was not of this world, that angelic chariots were not going to slay his enemies and bring him victory, realized he was doomed, and would then deny Jesus 3 times)

You can tell your children that Jesus wanted them to be earthly warriors because ""Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces", but you can't stop them from reading the rest of the paragraph and realizing that Jesus was asking them, not to destroy their enemies, but to not put in risk their own moral position by criticizing others. You may want them to believe that Jesus, in the middle of a speech about not judging other people and sharing, suddenly decided that speak against the muslims that didn't even exist back then!

That is not going to fly.

Sooner or later, your "strict catholic crusader" state will be reformed into liberalism, because the Gospel will still exist, because your children, like Peter, will realize that Jesus meant it when he said "you are to be persecuted and martyred for me", that Jesus didn't say "you will live in a stable and powerful civilization, free of oppresion and death, thanks to me".

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Can't say anything bad about christianity when it saved my nation. Sorry, I can't take you guys seriously.

>>134672686
>Christians divided
>Pagans united

You need a history lesson. Christianity was pretty much the only thing that united Europe against the moor and the Turk. Were it not for that, Europe wiuld be as muslim as the Middle East today

>>134669513
God damn it I fucking love your flag Macedonia.

>>134669513
fake post from a fake country. Give back that rightful Greek clay so they can build Greek Orthodox churches on it.

>>134676366

Cool strawman. What do you know about honor? You're literally disregarding everything Christ taught. He was in favor of transforming the consciousness of society. His disciples went all over the Mediterranean "infiltrating" Goy societies and teaching the principles of "blessed be the meek" and "harder for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than a rich man to enter heaven"

Socialism "overwhelms" Christianity because it's the same exact values repackaged as a political philosophy.

You're the "soulless liar" because you twist the teachings of Jesus Christ to conform to your beliefs instead of manning the fuck up like the rest of us and realize that what you believe is in direct opposition to the teachings of Jesus

>>134676365
>"I have come to turn a man against his own household"
Dividing the faithful from the faithless; the ones who will receive the bread of life and those who will reject it.
>"if you don't hate your self and your own family you can't follow me"
Realize that all have sinned. There is none on earth who is without sin. And thus through recognizing sin; accept Christ for salvation.
>"love your enemies, pray for your persecutors"
This doesn't mean physically submit, for even Christ said to buy a sword. It means pray for them, for they know not what they do. It is the thought of compassion for those who are lost, not the willingness to succumb to tyranny and Godless evil.
>"the meek will inherit the Earth"
Those who reject materialism and wealth. And instead choose the bread of life.
>"blessed are those the persecuted, for they will be my Kingdom"
Blessed are they who keep the faith through all difficult times. Christ warned there would tribulations in this world for all who follow Him for the world is sinful.
>"do not save treasures for tomorrow"
Everything is temporary in this world. What matters is you live a righteous life and believe.
>"it is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye than for the rich to enter Heaven"
Exactly as it says. Reject materialism. Reject earthly vanity.

>>134677085
>What do you know about honor?

Says the slave of Satan who spits in the face of Christ.

>>134677173
>Christ said to buy a sword
he never said anything about using one

he also prevented peter from doing exactly that

he also said those that live by the sword will die by the sword

he also said that evil should not be resisted by force

but whatever, i suppose you will twist this so that it doesnt mean what it quite clearly means...

>>134669513
Checkmate christians.

https://youtu.be/MMh8V04s7Ts

>>134677332

Do not point out the splinter in my eye when there is a plank in yours. Are you without sin? Let he without sin cast the first stone. I have not come to judge, but to save from judgement.

face it, you cannot live to the standards of Christ but feel guilty about it so you use him as a scapegoat so you can continue to be a vindictive twat.

Jesus Christ was NOT a racist. Jesus Christ WAS a socialist and believed in wealth distribution. It is not voluntary if there is punishment for failing to help the poor.

If you go to hell for not redistributing your wealth than that is the same as coercion by the state. You're a walking contradiction

>>134674407
This guy is a fucking genius.
Not to mention that the Roman elite of Pagan days WERE ALSO JEW CONTROLLED.
The Babylonian Talmud is more PAGAN than anything, and Judaism is more related to paganism, than to Christianity.
Christianity is the polar opposite of Judaism though.
The religion Jews gave the world was PAGANISM....not Christianity. As per usual these morons have everything bass-ackwards.
Most of these morons are essentially saying they want a religion for only people who look like them, and allow them to shit on people who don't look like them.
Perhaps they did not know...but that religion already exists...it is called JUDAISM.
None of these moron pagans have a FUCKING CLUE about the teachings of Christ.
As I always say, whoever is claiming to be most woke to Jewish manipulation, 99% of the time are those most deluded and brainwashed by whatever Jews tell them. Almost invariably.

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>>134669513
>women dont slut
You do know debautchery and fucking slaves was as popular as it could get in rome. Fucking slaanesh is based on roman practices, along with their homosexual and pedo practices.

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>>134676670
Western Europe is beyond saving now, but I guess an unemployed paellanigger wouldn't know that.

>>134669513
>be rome
>several gay pedophile Emperors
>Elagabus was a tranny who got fucked in the ass
>blame Christians for all your problems
Why the shilling against Christianity recently? Christcuck name calling has always been around but there's a ton recently.

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>>134677881
Not an argument, fucking faggot. The fact that you hide your flag takes all seriousness from your posts away.

>>134677789
Jesus was not a socialist...you MF'n MORON. You too. stfu unless you know wtf you are talking about.
None of any of you know wtf you are talking about.
Luke 22:36 Then said He unto them, "But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one."
"Be broken, O peoples, and be shattered; And give ear, all remote places of the earth. Gird yourselves, yet be shattered; Gird yourselves, yet be shattered. "Devise a plan, but it will be thwarted; State a proposal, but it will not stand, For God is with us." For thus the LORD spoke to me with mighty power and instructed me not to walk in the way of this people, saying,
"You are not to say, 'It is a conspiracy!' In regard to all that this people call a conspiracy, And you are not to fear what they fear or be in dread of it. "It is the LORD of hosts whom you should regard as holy. And He shall be your fear, And He shall be your dread. "Then He shall become a sanctuary; But to both the houses of Israel, a stone to strike and a rock to stumble over, And a snare and a trap for the inhabitants of Jerusalem. "Many will stumble over them, Then they will fall and be broken; They will even be snared and caught." Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples.--GOD
Luke 10:19
"Behold, I have given you authority to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing will injure you."-Jesus Christ.
Exodus 15:3
"The LORD is a warrior; The LORD is His name."
Isaiah 42:13
The LORD will go forth like a warrior, He will arouse His zeal like a man of war He will utter a shout, yes, He will raise a war cry He will prevail against His enemies.
Malachi 4:1
"For behold, the day is coming, burning like a furnace; and all the arrogant and every evildoer will be chaff; and the day that is coming will set them ablaze," says the LORD of hosts, "so that it will leave them neither root nor branch.

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>>134677569
>he never said anything about using one
Why else would you buy one?
>he also prevented peter from doing exactly that
Peter was different. Jesus was talking about your average person.
>he also said those that live by the sword will die by the sword
The sword is for defense. The followers of Christ would be attacked. Those who live for offense (murder) will die the same.

>>134677789
More twisted lies and out of context quotes.

Truly; I thank God that I do not have it in my heart to sink so low in lies and dishonesty out of pure hatred for Him.

>>134678063
There's been an autist spamming these general threads. He and another guy made about 70 and 40 posts last night when I checked here. It is awful.

>>134677809

>This guy is a fucking genius

Thank you. I forgot to add that Paganism as you almost certainly imagine it IS jewish propaganda. It is a construct made up by Jewish-dominated past-Enlightenment academia that has almost fucking nothing in common with what even ancient Greeks, never mind practicers of paganisms from which very little survived to our day, like that of the Norse, actually believed. It was made up to seem anything more than a collection of bloody and incosistent superstitions specifically to undermine Christianity.

Take a look at the most advanced paganism in history, Hinduism. A small bunch of Christian adventurers BTFOed a whole sub-continent its adherents and their descendants only failed to kept India under their thumb due to events that flowed from the Europe abandoning Christianity. Hinduism also was not very successful at teaching people to poo in loo of course.

>>134678063
They have been getting ass raped on their ridiculous lies and ideologies, by people who actually understand history, and have read the Bible, and do not just fall for all the Jewish BS. They are figuring out they are the morons, and the true cucks...so it makes them believe their Jewish lies all the more.
It is wtf all leftists do.
>>134678285
All true.

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>>134678124
The Moors will fuck your women again goy, it's only a matter of time.

>>134677809

>Judaism is more related to paganism than to Christianity

Exactly, the Jews have their own spiritual heritage just as Europeans used to have. That was taken away from them by force after the papacy promised power to powerful pagan converts that used their new-found authority to establish kingdoms.

Jews hate Christianity because Jews themselves are at high risk of being converted. Jesus Christ said that he came for the sake of the Jewish race first. This is the reason why he died in Jerusalem.

If you truly believe that the God of the OT and the God of the NT are the same person and that both compilations are divine then you must accept that both the Jews and Christians are correct. Keeping kosher is an eternal covenant and Jesus Christ came to break that covenant in order to establish a new one.

How could Jesus possibly be representing the same God if he is breaking an everlasting covenant which he himself made?

>>134677569
Nice try faggot pagans.

Or should I said Atheist? Literally 90% of pagan LARPers are atheist shills trying to cause shit. A mix of leftypol and atheist cucks. Pagans were divided and easily crushed thanks to the unity of Christianity, and while countless pagan tribes and the like were crushed and destroyed utterly, Christianity kept it's flame going even after the Islamic conquests of the Levant. The only thing that has caused it's massive decline is the advent of souless materialistic atheists funding the advance of Islamo-facists, that aim to remove anything that isn't salafist/wahabi islam. Atheism has weakened the west greatly (The ruination of Orthodox Christianity for years by atheistic communists that only now it has begun to recover).

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>>134678285
>tfw all these fags shilling for a ''pure paganism''
>tfw they don't shill for the pagan Holy Trinity of Mars, Jupiter and Imperial Cults.
Fucking plebs, these guys are just acting like good goys.

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>>134669513
Christianity was created by Jews in Judea and spread throughout north african Rome as an attempt to get goyim to believe in the "old testament" aka the Torah and let Jews lend to them. Carthage was the first city where christianity took hold and soon enough the Jews started lending to the christian goyim. The pagan goyim got upset because the prices of cattle, building material, tools and other long term investments skyrocketed and reported the practice of usury to the leaders of Carthage. They didn't care tho because the jews had bought them, so the pagan goyim had to go to the emperor of Rome. The punishment for usury was death but since there were too many people involved the emperor just banished all jews from Carthage instead. The rich Jews responsible for the usury went on to Alexandria because it was another christian stronghold. By stronghold I mean that about 10% were Christian. They befriended all the rich and influntial people and started really pushing christianity hard among them. Their goal was to make all of Alexandria christian so that no one would have a problem with them lending money. In the meantime, they also bought all the businesses that they knew was gonna make lots of money once they started lending to the working goyim. After about 100 years of preperation and turning about 50% of the population christian, they started their usury business again and the same things that happend in Carthage happened in Alexandria. The same things sky rocketed in price, the pagans complained and the jews went "oy vey!" They knew that they would eventually get banished from the city so they planned for this by transporting all the silver and gold they made to banks in other parts of the world. After about 70 years they got banished and moved on and they have kept this shit up for 2000 years and these faggots still bow down to a kike on a stick, monetarily enslaved by their jewish masters.

>>134669513
that is not wrong well done OP

Ive thought about it myself, that christianity sort of began the age of decline in rome. Not because of its doctrine though. As rome lost its native religion and its identity and began its downfall, it did so by adopting a foreign religion and that religion incidentally also began a whole new age

Burn in hell faggots

>>134678219
maybe he didnt mean an actual sword, there is a thought for you

>Peter was different. Jesus was talking about your average person.
he was talking to Peter along with the other apostles when he said the line about "sell your cloak and buy one (a sword)". make up your mind, is peter different or do the rules that apply to peter apply to everyone else? why would peter be different anyway? was peter some sort of alien species, or was he just a man like the rest of us?
>The sword is for defense. The followers of Christ would be attacked. Those who live for offense (murder) will die the same.
again not what he said, when he said "those that live by the sword will die by the sword" he was chastising Peter for taking up a sword to DEFEND christ from the authorities

>image is stupid christchan crusading larping cartoon

oh i see, you are YET ANOTHER person on 4chan who claims to be a christian but in fact is just larping as one and instead contradicts christs teachings by supporting organised mass murder like the crusades. i imagine that you will continue to contradict christs teachings while still claiming you are a christian all while demonstrating a less than stellar knowledge of the bible

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Nietzsche said it all in "The Antichrist."

>>134677789

I hear the hippie argument from liberals/atheists who try to make Jesus a socialist/marxist. He wasn't. Jesus obviously didn't fight and conquer countries. That wasn't his purpose. The main purpose of Christ was to bring grace, faith and salvation to people. However, next time he comes, there will be a great reckoning.

"Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the Lord, and against his anointed, saying, Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us. He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision. Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure." Psal. 2

'Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee. For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken... Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle." Zec. 14

"For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the Lord of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch... And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the Lord of hosts." Mal. 4

"And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, King Of Kings, And Lord Of Lords." Rev. 19

>>134678597
i am a christian, i follow christs teachings. what do you do? make it up as you go along and then pull out some nonsense excuse as to why christs teachings dont apply to you specifically? protip they apply to everyone

>>134678581
I wonder who were the ones to expell all moors and protect Western Europe for centuries. I bet you're an amerishart.

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>>134678588

The covenant wasn't everlasting, and ever since the ten commandments the Jews have been awaiting a Saviour.

>>134669513
All those destructive qualities you attribute to christian Rome were already made manifest on a large scale for hundreds of years before Constantine, and even before the transition to empire. During the republic, Rome's large-scale military victory on all fronts enabled the material conditions to cause a people to degenerate. The city of Rome became a metropolitan zone with many underclass beggars and freedmen. It depended on outside food shipments for the whole population and a proto-welfare grain allotment to buy off the underclass, which had the unintended effect of motivating inaction. The citizen-soldier died long before muh germans took over the military, and the land the formerly agrarian roman republic dispersed among all its people was largely concentrated in the hands of equites and senatorials, and worked by slave populations from greece and elsewhere. 75 years before Christ was even born the third major slave revolt happened with Sparticus. In the age of Augustus, after coming out the other end of nearly 80 years of continuous civil war and 700 years of Roman prowess and expansion, the citizens of this long, storied empire are going to become complacent. Think along the lines of postwar and especially post-cold war America: during the 90s many thought we'd reached some end of history, where everything from now on would be peaceful and martial skill and virtue are no longer necessary. Why should we act virtuously? Shouldn't we harvest the fruits of our labor and suffering? So you get what you had. Cultural nihilism in antiquity. We're the big winners of forever, the slaves will toil in the farms, the poor will be fed, and the rich will prosper and dive into increasing bouts of depravity spirals.

>>134678956
(cont.)
Some noticed this. People like Cicero and Cato wrote about the steep decline of morals in the time of Julius Caesar, and imperial successor Augustus would codify virtue into law through various things like harsh punishments for adultery. It didn't really work, and ended when he died. Subsequent emperors would attempt the same with harsher punishments, and would fail the same.

By the time Christianity became a major force in the empire in the 4th century, Rome was already rotten from the inside and only kept in motion through the force of inertia and uncommon will of a few certain men like Diocletian or Constantine. What people who accuse Christianity of killing Rome always seem to forget is that it turned out pretty damn well as far as holding Byzantium together for 1000 years after the west ostensibly "fell" into divided feudalism.

>>134678201

You think that some quotes where Jesus condones violence changes the fact that he was a socialist? Are you retarded?

2 Thessalonians 3:10
10 For even when we were with you, we would give you this command: If anyone is not willing to work, let him not eat.
Acts 2:44-45
And all who believed were together and had all things in common. And they were selling their possessions and belongings and distributing the proceeds to all, as any had need.

2 Corinthians 8:13-15
For I do not mean that others should be eased and you burdened, but that as a matter of fairness your abundance at the present time should supply their need, so that their abundance may supply your need, that there may be fairness. As it is written, “Whoever gathered much had nothing left over, and whoever gathered little had no lack.”
Ephesians 4:28
Let the thief no longer steal, but rather let him labor, doing honest work with his own hands, so that he may have something to share with anyone in need.

Acts 4:32-35
Now the full number of those who believed were of one heart and soul, and no one said that any of the things that belonged to him was his own, but they had everything in common. And with great power the apostles were giving their testimony to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus, and great grace was upon them all. There was not a needy person among them, for as many as were owners of lands or houses sold them and brought the proceeds of what was sold and laid it at the apostles' feet, and it was distributed to each as any had need.
Matthew 19:21
Jesus said to him, “If you would be perfect, go, sell what you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me.”

Luke 3:11
And he answered them, “Whoever has two tunics is to share with him who has none, and whoever has food is to do likewise.”

These are a few of many many scriptures that are in favor of Socialism.

https://www.openbible.info/topics/socialism

>>134678720
Luke 22:38
And they said, Lord, behold, here are two swords. And he said unto them, It is enough.

Luke 19:27
But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

>>134678946

Sabbath was in fact an everlasting covenant

Exodus 31:16
Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.

If Jesus Christ broke the Sabbath and said that it was more important to help those in need than to obey the Sabbath then he is in direct opposition to the God of Israel which is precisely why the Jews rejected him.

>>134679046

Excellent post.

If like to add that the idea that Christianity caused or significantly contributed to the fall of the Western Empire has long since been rejected by modern historians. It clearly wasn't a significant factor, since while the Western Empire collapsed, the equally (or even more) Christian Eastern Empire continued for another 1000 years without collapsing and without any "Dark Age".

>>134679050
i must have missed the part where jesus gave a sermon on ownership of the means of production

just how dumb are you anyway?

>>134679133
>But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.
are you SERIOUS? or do you not understand what a parable is? next you will take another parable out of context and claim that jesus recommended building houses on sand

like i said
>less than stellar knowledge of the bible

if you really believe that this quote means jesus condones violence you make christianity and jesus himself completely incoherent

luckily for you and for everyone, jesus did not condone violence, and thus his religion is perfectly coherent

>>134677173
>for even Christ said to buy a sword
To fullfill a prophecy you larper. He said not to use it

>>134669513
paganism = no honor

Christianity = The Truth

REPENT & TURN TO CHRIST BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE FOOL!

>>134669513
Pagan Rome
>Enslaved and killed millions
>Women were notorious whores
>Practiced homosexuality and bestiality
>Empire destroyed by their drifting further and further into depravity
Christian Rome
>Called Constantinople
>Lasted 1000 years longer than Stronk Pagans
>Incidentally started Deus Vult
>Did not practice homosexuality or beastiality
>Banned gladiatorial games and killing for fun
>Responsible for causing the European Renaissance.

>>134678588
Yeah..and now everyone except dudes like you, and fucking Jews, have evolved to not be racist POS.
However you want to gussy up acting just like fucking Jews...go right ahead...but you dudes will always be the white version of Jews.
...And by the way you are TOTALLY WRONG...could not be more wrong in fact. White people were never united under paganism...a few pagan rulers ruled all of Europe...under all different kinds of Paganism...and as a result were a non-collective and were manipulated AGAINST one another, more than whatever fantasy you have cooked up in your retarded head.
I say again...you have ZERO understanding of history WHATSOEVER...save that which can be learned hanging out with ANY group of non-Christians on Fascistbook.
I know every Christian here, knows EXACTLY wtf I am talking about.
YOu all sound JUST LIKE THEM. Creepy how much you sound like them really.
>>134679050
You think Jesus saying be sure to take your purse, and buy and sell shit until you can buy a sword is SOCIALIST? Are you sure you can read?
All of those verses you refer to, are commands Jesus gave his disciples, so no one would fear they were trying a financial coup...this was one of the big obstacles to getting people to follow their message...these were only commands to His disciples, those Jews he wanted to spread His message...as was the turnning the other cheek thing...all of this was to prove how serious they were....not commands to be followed FOREVER. And then later Jesus gave them the command about swords and purses, buying/selling.
Your retarded ass DOES realize that the Gospel is a STORY, with a beginning middlel and end....your logic is to pint at one page of a book, and say, see this person said this, at the beginning of the book, so even if there is a plot twist later....his will always be true.
I say again...stop talking about shit you do not know anything about...you obviously do not.

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>>134669513
>greatest empire
sorry buddy

>>134679050

All of those quotes are directed at the individual.

Charity is an act that elevates man. This is known, but socialism is the opposite of that. Socialism is the state taking from man and destributing as it sees fit.

Jesus didn't take any position upon government. Christ himself said as much - 'my kingdom is not of this world'.

You're posting a website made by some fedora advocating for a hippy Jesus, which is about as far away from Christ as it's possible to be.

>>134677881
america is beyond saving

western europe can be saved. Despite the fact that it is close.

>>134679427

Are you even following the argument you simpleton? Jesus Christ was in favor of the redistribution of wealth which is the principle upon which socialism is dependent upon. Just because he doesn't cite Das Kapital 1900 years before it was written doesn't mean he wasn't in favor of it's key principles.

Why don't you use your brain instead of being a smarmy little bitch? That's what Jesus would do..

>>134679427
>two swords
it is enough
>two swords
it is enough
>two swords
it is enough
>two swords
it is enough

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>>134679889
Incorrect. Could not be MORE incorrect in fact.

>>134679889
God AND Jesus are the original Capitalists, and the original drawers of borders, and defenders of sovereignty.
Quite LITERALLY.

>>134679889

Sorry, but Christ said the exact opposite.

>Render unto Caesar what is Caesar, and into God what is God's.

I'll prove it. Quote one line Jesus said, from any Gospel, that shows he was in favour of the state taking control of someone's personal property and distributing it as they saw fit.

Psalm 119:139
My zeal hath consumed me, because mine enemies have forgotten thy words.

>>134679889
>Jesus Christ was in favor of the redistribution of wealth which is the principle upon which socialism is dependent upon
no
he was not any more in favour of it than every person in history was in favour of stealing from the corrupt and evildoers to give to the innocent and poor.
that is nothing special that does not belong to socialism and not even to jesus it is a common sentiment

socialists have rather hijacked this, and then turned it into take from all rich irrespective of their deeds or their character, and give to greedy and demanding people who do not deserve the money

The Bible is a right-wing handbook for Dummies.
That the Dummies apparently have yet to actually read.
PS: Jesus says repeatedly that the meek shall inherit the earth.
Daily reminder there is NOTHING meek about taking other peoples' hard earned shit at gunpoint, because you are a lazy fuck.
>>134680397
True...even the Caesar part is about nationality. It means follow the laws of the nation you find yourself in.

>>134679642

>only some of Jesus' teaching should be followed because of chronological order

Okay, so you are picking and choosing which teachings you will follow based on how it suits your own personal morality. Cool story.

>white people were never united under paganism

I never said anything that even hinted at this, this is just more projection on your part to try to paint Christianity as a unifying ideology rather than something that caused division. Different Christian sects were waging total war against one another only 300 years ago. We have seen very little peace under Christianity and you are delusional if you think otherwise.

>have evolved not to be racist POS

So you admit that you are a multi-racialist, which is fine but I am arguing from the perspective of someone that values their heritage.

If you don't see any value in your ancestry or race than of course you won't see Christianity conflicting with this aspect of yourself. My argument isn't that it bothers you, my argument is that it undermines the institutions of race culture.

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>>134669513
Augustus was pro Jews. He made lots of them citizens and had the high priest offer sacrifices for him in the temple of Jerusalem every day and a second for the men of Rome

>>134671492
>dionysus cults dont count
Except it was the most popular cult in all of Italy and it involved mass murder

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>>134680845
Oh he re legalized Judaism and funded and built lots of Synagogues which to this day are called "augustuan" by the Jews. His Father Jewlius Caesar legalized Judaism. whose body was mourned over by the Jews

Psalm 44:5 Through You we will push back our adversaries; Through Your name we will trample down those who rise up against us.
Psalm 139

19 Oh that You would slay the wicked, O God;
Depart from me, therefore, men of bloodshed.

20For they speak against You wickedly,
And Your enemies take Your name in vain.

21Do I not hate those who hate You, O LORD?
And do I not loathe those who rise up against You?

22I hate them with the utmost hatred;
They have become my enemies.

23Search me, O God, and know my heart;
Try me and know my anxious thoughts;

24And see if there be any hurtful way in me,
And lead me in the everlasting way.
>>134680810
Everything you have said is dumb af...and Jewy af.
I follow Christ...which means people are allowed to make their own decisions...I thought you understood Christianity?
One last time....stfu about things you know nothing of....or keep showing everyone how dumb you are. Personally, I hope you do the latter. No one helps my cause more than morons like you.

>>134678763
He praises Islam...

>>134669513
Wew lad you're pretty dumb.

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>>134680397
>>134680660

Have you ever even read the bible, you idiots? Do you think I decided to oppose canon teachings of Christianity just to be edgy?

Jesus Christ flipped the money changer's tables because they were changing the coinage of Judea for the coinage of Rome IN THE TEMPLE.

The Temple was a symbol of the everlasting covenant of the land shewn to Abraham's descendants and their SEPARATION from ALL OTHER NATIONS ON EARTH.

Because they were playing the harlot with Rome and using the opportunity to make a few shekels (market speculation and free trade which is capitalistic) he flipped the tables over and told them to render unto Caesar his filthy coinage (as it had his face on the coin which is idolatry) and to keep the temple holy and not to defile it.

also

>Quote one line Jesus said, from any Gospel that shows he was in favour of the state taking control of someone's personal property and distributing it as they saw fit

Easy.

Romans 13 6-7

6 Pay your taxes too, for these same two reasons. For government workers need to be paid so that they can keep on doing God’s work, serving you. 7 Pay everyone whatever he ought to have: pay your taxes and import duties gladly, obey those over you, and give honor and respect to all those to whom it is due.

Jesus, you people are laughable. Instead of accepting the word of God you will reject this scripture and call me a liar because you CANNOT COME TO TERMS WITH THE FACT THAT THE BASIC TENETS OF CHRISTIANITY CONFLICT WITH YOUR WORLDVIEW

>>134669513
>men are strong
The soldiers were. Everyone else was a boyfucking ninny
>women dont slut
Most of the men of any status preferred boypucci so the women were the hugest sluts seeing as their husbands only fucked them to procreate. Barely any of the emperors before marcus aurelius sired their own children even.
>honour is important
Yea but having an army/praetorians to defeat your enemies was far more important. Honor meant dick if you were up against 10 legions.
>bring honour by going to the legion
Maybe in the days of the early/middle republic, but once they started flat out paying people to serve it was honestly all about money and bitching until you got even more money.

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Without ceasing, for all our emperors we offer prayer. We pray for life prolonged; for security to the empire; for protection to the imperial house; for brave armies, a faithful senate, a virtuous people, the world at rest, whatever, as man or Caesar, an emperor would wish.
-Tertullian

also
The oldest church in Israel again from the 200s AD. Has the following inscriptions
“Gaianus, also called Porphyrius, centurion, our brother, has made the pavement at his own expense as an act of liberality. Brutius carried out the work.”
This city was a Roman fortress back in those days, where all the Roman soldiers lived. This is the city of Megiddo, or Armageddon in Greek, the very same infamous Armageddon in the book of Revelations. This church was funded and operated by Roman soldiers, and one was even a Centurion.

Luke 14:31-32 - Jesus speaks well of large expensive armies.
>Or what king would go to war against another king without first sitting down to consider whether his ten thousand soldiers could go up against the twenty thousand coming against him? And if he didn’t think he could win, he would send a representative to discuss terms of peace while his enemy was still a long way off.

>>134681572
That does not remotely sound like socialism.

>>134681572
Your quote for why Christianity is BS...is the Book saying follow the LAW?
You pieces of shit fascinate me...the level you morons go to believe your BS.
You do not like the taxes, change them with revolution. That is the part of giving to God, what is Gods'
Sorry dude, you lost. Hard fucking core. Anyone who thinks Jesus in any way would have approved of socialism, is the biggest moron who ever lived.
As I said...keep spewing your Commie BS. No one is believing it. Even the pagans know you are full of donkey shit.
These Commie Christians get even more butt hurt than storm fags.
These are the most dangerous people on earth...EVERYTHING theybelieve is an utter lie...and they KNOW IT.
This dude is DEFINITELY a Jew spy...normally I am jesting when I say that. Not this time.

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>>134669513
lol if christianity is so inferior why did it win?

The strong always win.

Islam is stronger than secular liberalism btw. Look at how after 16 years of "war on terror" the terrorists have their own state and a few in africa too. Taliban won in afghanistan. Islam is cobquering the west. You may not like them, call them sandniggers, backwards, medieval desert cult, but they are winning.

The same goes for christianity. You may dislike it, rave about a kike on a stick or how un-European it is, but the sole fact that christianity eradicated paganism proves it was stronger.

Anything else is pagan denial and incoherence of the pagan worldview, where they mock christianity for being weak and meek in one sentence and cry about how savage and ruthless christians were when they conquered them in the next.

im an atheist btw.

I Timothy 5:8 says: "But if any provide not for his own, and especially for those of his own house, he has denied the faith, and is worse than an unbeliever." TRANSLATION: America FIRST.
NEW TRANSLATION: NOT SOCIALISM.

>>134682745
>The strong always win.
Mashallah

>>134675735
Jews pretend to hate Christ so we would stick with cucktianity, you idiot. They will never try to stop return to paganism until the neopagan movement starts to exceed cucktianity.

>>134681572
It's Paul preaching that dumbass.

Romans 13 1-5
1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
5 Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.

>>134677789
>works determine if you go to hell or not

Fucking lole

>>134674407
THIS

>>134683210
6 For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.
7 Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.
8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
11 And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.
12 The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light.
13 Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not in rioting and drunkenness, not in chambering and wantonness, not in strife and envying.
14 But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.

>>134683151
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahh------ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Sure thing bruh....I bet they are lying about to trick us....it has nothing to do with Him telling them that they were the Sons of Satan.
Read John 8 31-47....He says if they do not accept Him, and that there is not even such a thing as Jew...then they are the bastards of Satan.
It is even the part where HE says, And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free."
Now all you morons know the truth.

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>>134678720
NO it says those who use it will fall by it. It was something pagan romans who were generals said too btw it's a famous pagan phrase as well as jewish one. Meaning be careful about using deadly force, because theyll use it back at you. An eye for an eye, not a condmenation but a strong warning to MAKE SURE.

>>134679427
Except thats what jesus said hell do multiple times in the gospels, he said he's going to be king and anyone who doesn't like it will be thrown into the furnace, Parables are for instruction this one is a warning

>>134680845
The jews were so badly treated in rome that every person not enslaving or killing them for fun were seen as the nicest men alive by them.
The romans fucked them more often over than anyone else. Caligula even build a statue of him in the tempel of Jerusalem and made it his own temple.
>Except it was the most popular cult in all of Italy and it involved mass murder
Nice propaganda. Not true tho. It was neither the most popular cult nor did in involve mass murder. Don't even know where you got that idea from

>>134669513
>Christian rome
>>men are cucks
>>women are sluts
>>honour means nothing, only money matter.
>>get the germans to fight for us
>>become a faggot
>>accept jesus and nothing else matters

Most of this stuff is projection or poor trolling, but to get ze Germans to fight for you was a decision made before the Christening of the Roman nobility:
>90 BC: law passed that allowed allied tribes to get Roman citizenship in trade for service in the army
>extend right this to barbarian tribes
>hire German mercenaries
>oops no monies
>ex mercs get paid land in the provinces
>provinces turn less loyal to Rome
>Julian the Apostate, the only known man who is more anti-christian than Varg hands out even more gibs to the Franks
Sure is a Christian problem

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foederati

>>lose empire and Rome falls
>I'm a proud LARPing pagan remembering his past except Orthodox Constantinople and the whole rest of the Eastern Roman Empire that lasted another 1000 years.

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>>134679831
>beady eyes

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>>134683151
>until the neopagan movement starts to exceed cucktianity.


which will never happen because pagans are literally autistic and failed to achieve anything politically, not even running a town or sth even in countries where christianity collapsed decades ago like Sweden, Britain or the Netherlands.

>>134681278
So did Hitler

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>>134683834
Yeah sure Caligula did, but you don't understand Caligula. Otherwise Augustus and Jewlius were very pro jewish
>treated badly
Vespasian had to hire arab mercanaries to sack Jerusalem. They were not Romans. The jews were well treated by the Romans if you ever read macabees 1 youll see that it's good for business, jews were joked about all the time in Roma like on pol but it wasn't hatred

>nice propaganda
no it' isn't this is said by Livy himself go read it. It was a serious issue they had to execute thousands of them it was all over italy for MURDER

>>134681278
To be fair, not everything about Islam is bad. Just almost everything. I find Nietzsche's praise of it kind of embarrassing though. I don't think he knew much about it, and mostly praised it to piss off Christians. I'd agree that it is a manly religion though, if nothing else. Make of it what you will.

>>134669513
>pagan rome
>women dont slut
are you a fucking idiot? of course they slutted. low culture has always been low culture, will always be low culture. read the pompeiian graffiti if you dont believe me.
http://www.pompeiana.org/Resources/Ancient/Graffiti%20from%20Pompeii.htm

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Well I ahve other things to do now so If I don't reply that's why not because I don't have an answer most of this stuff is cut and paste anyways by bots for pagancucks

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>>134669513
Christian west
>men are strong
>women dont slut
>honour is important
>bring honour by going the army
>build Greatest empire the world will ever see
Atheist west
>men are cucks
>women are sluts
>honour means nothing, only money matter.
>get the 3rd world to fight for us
>become a faggot
>reject jesus and nothing matters
>lose empire and the west falls

Your hypothesis that christianity brought those characteristics to roman society does not account for the fact that the same things are happening to christian societies while they lose christianity.
A better hypothesis is that both the behavior you pointed and the change in metaphysical principles are symptoms of a dying society, one that has lost the vision of its guiding principle and its will to act in the world and is now just trying to keep itself together and enjoy a meaningless life while it lasts.

>>134684571
How is it manly?

>>134669513
divide et impera

Stoicism is the right way forward.

>>134684564
>macabees 1
Can you give me a quick rundown? Because Wiki says it's about when Alexander and his succesor ruled over Jerusalem. Looks like the jews were treated pretty badly by them.
>said by Livy
>implying that's not propaganda
He wasn't even alive when that happened. He wrote about it several hundred years later. The cult wasn't even a thing when Livy lived, they were fractured and almost non existing plus they were a mystery cult so even people living at the same time didn't know jack shit about them.

>that pic
Can't refute everything, but I remember the story the first text is talking about to some extend. Some man had sex with a priestess. So the oracle told them to be sacrificed, they were both killed. I believe after that some hero or something came did some quest for the oracle to make the godess less angry and "the human sacrifice" became washing the most attractive men and women in a river.

>>134685296
Originally it was a religion for warriors. Most of the Islamic virtues are martial virtues, including abstaining from alcohol, rising early in the morning for prayer, submission to the will of your superiors (Muhammad, er, excuse me, "Allah"), etc.

In Islam men rule over women and keep their hypergamy in check (not that this is always a good thing, since female hypergamy is key for natural selection). It was originally, and still is, a hard and warlike religion, whereas Christianity has always been more or less weak and sentimental, i.e., feminine.

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https://youtu.be/2D8isFaQ2PM
Jesus. They're talking about Jesus, the whole time.
The stars did not forgive us...there is only one who ever did....
Everyone needs forgiveness, as we are all sinners...and this is what Jesus does.
Even before any of us had realized we even need forgiveness....He ALREADY forgave us.
Even you pagans, atheist larpers, and the Commie 'Christian' (OXYMORON)....you're already forgiven...all you have to do is reach out your metaphoric 'hand' and take it.
Worship Him!! LOVE HIM!!
On your bellies, worms!!

>>134686181
>human sacrifice
Nigger we have on record from the Romans themselves that they occasionally preformed human sacrifice (they did it in the Punic wars, with children if I remember correctly). They themselves claim that they druids did it fucking constantly, and if they were lying they we know fucking nothing about the druids.

>>134669513
Paganism got Commie'd just like Native American Traditions:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legend_of_the_Rainbow_Warriors

How are you going to [ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING!!] to repair the debasement of paganism?

Or are you just going to reference it?

>>134685861
Going to any meetings or stoic organizations anon?


People really need to put their money/time where their mouth is and go out and get things done.

>>134687351
That was just the way things were in Arabia when Muhammed started his religion. So you think Arab culture is manly then? The religion also condones assassinations because that is what Muhammed did and Arabs did not do that before because it was considered cowardly, men met at the battlefield. Islam is cowardly, it is ok to lie if you are underpowered so you can then murder everybody when you have the upper hand. Your view of manliness is war? Are the ISIS guys manly when they murder and rape little girls?

>>134670883
Nope, Roman Paganism is by far the best religion.

>>134687875
>they did it in the Punic wars, with children if I remember correctly
That's my favorite story. It wasn't children is was a racemixing pair. Don't remember exactly but I believe it was a Roman women with a barbarian as husband (which I believe was illegal). They killed a racetraitor. It was literally the day of the rope, nothing bad about that.

>>134687974
I would if there were any, but unfortunately there aren't any that I know of. I don't people here even know what stoicism ist

>>134688679
think*

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Do people actually think this way?
OR is this just mental gymnastics for not blaming Atheistic New Age Morals and hedonism for destroying the West in this Post-modernist era?

>>134669513
>pagan Europe
>faggots

>Christian Europe
>conquers the world

>post Christian Europe
>fags again

>>134689342
Do Christians actually like the crusaders or is it just mental gymnastics to ignore the fact the crusades were a giant failure, so they can have something to LARP as?

>>134689528
>Pagans
>Build Western Civilization

>Christians
>Chimp out and ruin it for centuries, retarded Medieval savagery, repression of knowledge, burning of books, etc

>Christian Reformation happens, Christians are still retarded but the power of the church is put in check

>Europe becomes powerful and prosperous again, as opposed to the time when Christian theocracies ruled during the Middle Ages and Europe was getting raped by Arabs and Mongols

>>134679589
Is this the fruits of burger education? Almost all your statements are factually incorrect and meme history.

>>134690207
who knows, I do. They were the closest thing Christians had to Legionaries.

>>134690207
Personally I am proud of every single Christian who ever defended the truth, and died for their country, and their values, and their beliefs.
Oddly I feel the same way about my pagan ancestors....maybe not as much...but it is there.
Why is this so hard for everyone else? Why are people who feel like this so rare? It makes no sense to me.
I don't mean neo-paganism either...that BS that seems dependent on Christianity being their adversary to give them any kind of cohesion.
Just like Judaism, and Kabbalahism, and Satanism, and Islam, and atheists, and New Agers, and communism....holy fuck!!
Watson get in here!! I've discovered another CLUE!!
These dudes are ALL literal SJW's Watson...it is all a front to come after us....different religions, all the major ones, different rhetoric, same goals.
They have even distilled all this BS down into a new religion they are pushing through the UN.
For more info read here:
https://www.lucistrust.org/
SCARIEST SITE ON THE WHOLE WEB!!
DARK WEB IS LESS SCARY!!

Has anyone else ever gotten the weird recorded message in the Captcha that says due to need to protect their users, please contact, yada yada yada....anyone else?
>>134692611
I am sorry, I said the religion is new...this is BS. Same old BS.
Is the same Kabbalah/Talmud/Freemason religion as it always was.
The same religion in nearly every movie....especially those with huge cult (LMAO) fanbases, like Harry Potter, and Star Wars.
Luke Skywalker is Light that Walks the Sky (Sun), and this whole movie series is about the Osirian religion, where they believe Osiris, or the Sun, came to us from a star (Sirius) long ago.
It is a movie series about the Old Religion, from a galaxy far far away, long, long ago.
PS Yoda is a Masonic/Kabbalah/Talmudic demon, they summon who helps them focus their magic...or dare I say FORCE...?
Seriously most people have NO IDEA wtf they are looking at 99.99% of the time.
The stuff in the Bible, about towards the end everyone will be deceived, while the religion of mystery babbylon is all arounnd them, but they will not see it?
Welcome to near the end my friends.

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>>134669513
The Pagans broke away from Christianity through Protestantism because of the differences in culture.

> Pagans don't believe in greatness, they believe in simplicity, hence no idol worship and muh equality in Sweden
> Romans believe in honor, greatness, invented banking so Pagan society could function

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Osiris=Moloch=Satan btw.

PIC RELATED: Thought everyone could use a copy of the Bill of Rights.

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Reminder that Christianity's time of greatest influence was during the dark ages.

Christians stand opposed to all human progress

>>134669513
Women were sluts and stopped having kids. You got that wrong.

>>134692611
Man dude I was just shitposting. Please calm down.
I respect people who believe in something so much that they can die for it. But Christians praise the crusaders way too much and LARP as them way too hard
>>134693706
>> Pagans don't believe in greatness, they believe in simplicity, hence no idol worship and muh equality in Sweden
I hope you mean Christians

>>134694456
Reminder that it is science, and atheism, who invented the nuclear weapons, and all the technology that has dehumanized us, and nearly destroyed our world.
Reminder that it is fags like these who think they have a clue, and what is best for everyone, that are the biggest threat to the safety and sanity of us all.
Reminder that this wtf atheists sound like, "I have all the answers to the universe, where we came from, have been, are going; and most of all wtf is best for EVERYONE....Who me, no I am not religious...HOW DARE YOU.
What we have here, is another unwitting follower of Mystery Babbylon....or I suspect more in this case, a KNOWING follower.
>>134694826
Your whole thing is blaming a whole group, while not allowing this to be done to you. Fuck off. IDC wtf you are posting desu....I barely read it. I can tell if i am reading the truth within 5 words.
You must have been lying to someone though...or I would not have bothered to say anything, and even when I did, it was not solely for YOUR benefit.
Not everything is about you.
Liars and morons trigger me...what can I say. They do most sane people.

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>>134686181
>several hundred years later
We have contemparoray law records calling for their deaths and extreme measures to control the cult.

Rome did not have religous freedom, you were watched by the state, this is why all pagan rituals had to be in public. You are just denying what makes you uncomfortable, because it's a redpill and that's what redpills do. From early plays in Athens there were lots of rumors of womyn killing their husbands for power. now that's just a play but the man who wrote them came from an area that was already rumored to have these issues, Macedonia (northern Greece) anywyas the point is that Livy is reporting on something that was already believed to be true by lots of religous greeks and romans for hundreds of years. You may not buy it but they believed it, and Livy reported on something he got from roman law records, that already verify those rumors.

For 1 macabees just read the first few chapters its the section on the golden shield and an exchange of gifts between Romans and Jews, until Nero Romans had good relations with them, they were made fun of sure, some hated them like Cicero, but Jewlius and Crassus were fond of them. It's like the United States

>>134672686
this retard posted a pick of a thracian being the same as a celt..

man these 13-17 yr old kids are retarded

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>>(Everyone)
Consider this an invitation, to my congregation.

https://youtu.be/XVIO1vdd2FA

PS: The West is the Best!!

>>134669513
>Rome was good but then it was bad!!!
Wow, and it only took two millennium, multiple demographic shifts and declining religious unity...

>>134688517
Regardless if their deaths were called for is not the issue. The issue is if it is human sacrifice. There is a specific word in latin, greek, hebrew and other ancient languages for Sacrifice. It can be "offering, victim, scapegoat, offscouring, sacrifice...ect" the point is that a human sacrifice is to buy favor from these deities, its' not about justice, a criminal being offered up will do little good since the blood is impure, you need many wicked men to equal one innocent life. Which si why they 9/10 times just went with the pure virgin, since they were the criminals most of the time. Anyways its' about the worth of a soul, it's not justice it's about buying and selling with lives, they don't care if it's just or not, it's about business

>>134695144
Are you on drugs? Calm down and collect your thoughts.
>>134696052
Most modern historians think that Livy just made most of it up and misinterpreted the rest. I know of the rumors but they are just rumors, nothing more. It was a mystery cult. Most people had no idea what was going on there so they made things up because people are scared of what they don't know.
>some hated them like Cicero
Yeah, I read about Cicero's antisemitism and also about Tacitus so I looked it up. There were more people in rome being antisemites than being friendly to Jews. 6 a.d. Augustus, who you said where a friend of the Jews, made it legal to do literally anything to them. You could walk into their house and take their stuff and there was nothing they could've done. Rome was everything but nice to the Jews. That's why they rebelled that often.
>>134697400
What are you talking about? They never sacrificed virgins. They sacrificed them because they were racemixer. That was literally the reason. They thought that they somehow made the gods angry, lost their support and were losing the war because of that. So they tried to punish those people they thought made the gods angry, by sacrificing them. It was pretty much a ritual execution of a criminal. It was all about Justice

>>134698267
I love it when the stupidest people always pretend I am crazy, or excited, or the dumb motherfucker in the conversation.
Is this truly all people like you do? Invert reality?
That shit is amazing to me for real. That these people brainwashed you to this point. Makes me sad. And scared.
I sure af am not mad at you idiots. If anything you scare the fuck out of me.
Most of all I am scared of wtf the good among us will be forced to do to stop people like you.
That bothers me more than anything. I see it every time i close my eyes.

https://youtu.be/9RY83mAr5uA

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>>134694826
> I hope you mean Christians

No I mean Pagans and Protestants, picrelated is what a Protestant church looks like, no sculptures or decorations to avoid idol worship and each individual has their own idea of God, in contrast to the Vatican.

I believe this is what led them to think they are equal to Muslims if we just have an open enough society

>>134700908
That's a children's show btw............................................................

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>>134698267
>what are you talking about
>NEVER NO NEVER
Never been outside the house anon? They do it today in DC. Comon youknow about Podesta and Hillary. this isa tale as old as time, Carthagians did it, Greeks did it, Aeztecs,

Criminal blood is impure and disgusting blood. Only the blood of a virgin will make an idol truly pleased
By admitting it is sacrifice you are giving into defeat, you have admitted that it is profane.

>>133408089
>>133410197
It's only ritual execution. If ithey called it a sacrifice then it's a sacrifice not a ritual execution, those are two very different things. Killing a criminal for murder you do not earn favor from the gods, it was expected of you to carry out the law. Romans did do human sacrifice from time to time under the law, outside the law Livy records that it was very common depending on the cult and the historial era

>>134700908
I love how lightly dressed she is, the devil right there

>>134701226
Makes me cry. Literally. With anger.

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>>134701131
I will note however that the Romans regarded it was horrible, turly horrible, they were far more resiliant to human sacrifice than the Greeks. The Romans would do it, but it was met with harsh punishment, I mean tortured to death. Imean THOUSANDS of womyn and betas being tortured to death for human sacrifice. Greeks weren't' like that, most other groups just put up with it. Before Plato and Socrates you would have puges SOMETIMES but it wasn't like "the usual thing" as it was with Romans.

Reminder these are the same groups that the Christians "persecuted" seems like everyone "persecuted" these cults