How can there still be actual communists in 2017?

north korea is not communist

There aren't, just lazy niggers who want free shit.

Replace North Korea with Venezuala

>>134666278
DPRK isn't commie. Cuba is a friend now. China is barely commie.

>>134666278
That pic is false because none of them are communist.
Real communism has never been tried before.

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>>134667815

shut up kike

>>134667815
>Real communism has never been tried before
I hope you will starve to death in your utopia

>>134667815
>Real communism has never been tried before.
Oh, it's been tried. It just can't come to fruition because it is based on the false premise that workers could win a class struggle.

>>134666278
I think most people that support communism are uneducated and see in a vacuum how everyone is equal and everyone gets "free" or "almost free" money and stuff. Then they deny and ignore everything that could make this idealistic utopia not feasible and there you have it. Communists in 2017.

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>>134667815

Translated: I am so narcacisstic and arogant, and so convinced of the rightness of my ideology and my moral purity, that if was the dictator of a communist/socialist state, the utopia would have come in as promised.

>>134666278
What about Vietnam? Aren't they communist too?

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>>134667815

>>134666278
Because they live their lives with impunity in the United States.

>>134667815
It's been tried you can't even implement your retarded ideology without starvation, secret police and a murderous dictator taking power. Never been implemented, ok. But it's definitely been tried.

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>>134667815
>Real communism has never been tried before.

>>134668363
Are there any "But it's not real capitalism" people?

>>134666278
china isn't communist you fucking retard. they are national socialism without the socialism. there's no equality, egalitarianism, or other mental illness that goes along with communism. it's state run capitalism and fascist to the core

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>>134667815
And it never will be.

>>134668604

Its communist in the countryside and state capitalist in certain places. because they realised that decades ago there is no way to implement a communist economy.

>>134667815
Has 'real' anything ever been tried? Like full on balls to the wall Communism? Implementing 100% full capacity of any ideology would not be possible. Nazi Germany wasn't even close to 100%, though it may have been close. Your argument is in favor of dictatorship which contradicts 'muhh equality'. Its not possible otherwise, not unless the community is literally a hivemind.

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>>134666278
The only ones who fell was the Soviet Union, its puppet states and Yugoslavia.

Since then, several countries turned communist instead, and all different Marxist movements are alive and well, and if anything, it is the Liberal ideology that is reeling in the modern world.

Cute how no no-meme-tier Nazis ever existed, since Hitler ate a bullet.

>>134668363
>>134668311
>>134668250
>>134668091

No, he is a troll and you are nu-polacks to not see it

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>>134667815
>Real communism has never been tried before.
You say that every time it fails. "Um, that wasn't REAL communism. Let me run shit."

Die, you fucking kike!

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>>134667815
Your chariot awaits

True Communism could work if everyone was a soulless automaton bereft of free will and lacking in any human vices, who is dedicated exclusively to serving The Collective to the extent that they'd also go off to kill themselves voluntarily when they become a net drain on The People's resources. So until we get rid of that pesky human spirit we'll be stuck with fake communism which are just brutal bloody-handed authoritarian dictatorships run by tyrannical SJW fucks.

Communism will always win in the end. Because the have nots will always want to take the money of the rich people. The majority of people are just useless and will never be able to live without being dependent on the government

>>134667708
>cuba is a friend now
No

>>134669108
>I've never heard of eugenics.

>>134668564
There is no need for that because capitalism is actually productive

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>>134666278
Because socialism and egalitarianism is the eternal refuge of envious mediocrities. And we'll never run out of those.
>>134668564
You called?
The difference is that I can actually define what I mean by real capitalism: a society in which the rights to life, liberty and property are under absolute legal protection. Note that I don't play the game the socialists do: I don't say 'TRUE capitalism is a society in which the rights to life, liberty and property are under absolute legal protection, AND there are no harmful monopolies, AND the free market has raised everyone to a high standard of living, etc, etc.' I recognize that I have to logically demonstrate that the positive results of implementing real capitalism follow from that implementation. When a socialist says it wasn't real socialism because there was a cult of personality, death squads, gulags, everyone was poor as shit, and so on, he is defining socialism as its allegedly positive results while neatly evading the question of why or if those results follow from socialist reforms (because they obviously and evidently don't). It's utterly childish, like someone who fills a balloon with sand and then complains it wasn't a REAL sand balloon because it didn't fly. A capitalist will say 'helium will make a balloon fly, because we've seen it happen and can prove it with reference to the theory of buoyancy; therefore a balloon filled with pure helium will be the most buoyant.'

>>134669185
You don't understand human mentality. If everyone had jobs that provided them with unlimited food and housing, people will be just as discontent as starving africans in mud huts. It's not about what you have. People are only content if they are better than others. So there will always be a majority of people who'll want what the top 1% have.

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>>134668363
Hi Dr. Peterson I'm a big fan of your work

>>134668564
Everyone with weird yellow flags.

In general, people use no true scotsman arguement all the time. Basically, all that is good is somehow "my" achievement, and all that is bad is somehow "your fault".

In this very thread: "China is doing good, therefore it's not a real communism"

In truth, of course, everything communist is, actually, real communism.

>>134666278
NEETS wanting gibs. They don't know that they'll be the first ones shot.

Millennials are too young to remember when communism was an actual thing, it's been over 25 years since the collapse of the USSR. What we need is more coverage of the carnage going on in Venezuela. My generation needs to see that shit, although here in Canada at least the left-wing media doesn't want to cover it.

>>134666278

>China
>NK
>communist

China hasn't been communist for years. They went national capitalist years ago.

North Korea isn't communist. It's a fascist dictatorship.

The only communist nation is Cuba and it's been communist since Castro took it over and it's still communist today with no sign of collapse because people are generally happy with their daily life.

>>134666278
Over the next couple years China will be the number 1 world power.
North Korea will reunite South Korea
Radical Islam will move from Syria to the northern African coast before fully invading Europe. They will take Rome as there own new capital.
China saves Europe and Communism takes over Europe eventually spreading worldwide.
Our colonies are Mars dont like that and will become independent. Permission will be granted as they are a nuclear power.
Back on Earth the Polar Ice Caps will have melted and more of the population will be forced to live around and or under water.
>Under water
Yes. With help from Aliens Earth residents will live underwater..

Baba Vanga has said it and her past predictions check out.

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>>134669458
The reward-and-punishment mechanism will never go away in Communism.

First things first, it'll do away with capital, but goods will still be available depending on how much values you yourself produce.

In the latest stage, the most important value will become the social standing and reputation- and if someone really wants to go full NEET, he will be kicked out of everywhere and sit on some barebones wellfare still.

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>>134666278

College.

>>134670137
>national capitalist
You realize that's a piece of (((commie))) newspeak to lay the iniquities of failed communist collectivist states at the feet of capitalism, right? Capitalism is defined by individual rights to property. A state in which nobody but a clique of rulers has that right is as far from capitalism as it's possible to be. Commies got queasy when they saw the results of their collectivism, and decided to save face by calling that failure 'capitalism' as well, because they're delusional quasi-religious fucktards.

>>134666278
Only real communists are millineals who grew up post cold war and Gen xers who believed the Russians love their children too.

Easily. Because there is social inequality and capitalist exploitation of society by (((them))).

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>>134670334
wow, sounds like a real utopia

>>134667815
You cunts and the ancaps are fucking retards.

>>134666278
>no canada statue

its not real communism brooooo not real socialismmm broooooo

>>134670615
lol youre always cocky little commie cunts

>>134670528

Except that the US has the same system.

Hows the US system?

Propped up by prison programs?
Propped up by tax programs?
Propped up by MIC programs?
Propped up by medical programs directly funded by all of the above?
Propped up by government wages?

The list goes on. Capitalism collapses in every instance that it is applied if it does not have a state backed debt system, which means that capitalism cannot function without a nationalist backing.

Pretty much the entire developed world uses that system as well. It's just called 'Capitalism' by capitalist shills who don't want to accept that actual capitalism only functions when theres an excess of finance and once it shrivels up, it dies.

>>134666278
Actually 4. If you count Maduro land.

>>134670890
Am I wrong? Would you say that (((They))) do not exploit the working class through the power of their capital?
Is that not how we got illegal immigration in the US and Europe? Is that not why things like the Clinton Foundation exist? Is that not why porn is such a big industry? Why women are now in the workforce and why wages are stagnant?

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You know what you should read

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>>134666278
It's so funny that Commies actually buy into the "muh real communism" meme. Communism has always been an experiment, like most "ism's", to put oligarchs into place. The fact that they can't admit this is proof that they are idealist foolish plebes.

>>134671426
It's so funny that capitalists actually buy into the "muh invisible hand" meme. Capitalism has always been an experiment, like most "ism's", to put oligarchs into place. The fact that they can't admit this is proof that they are idealist foolish plebes.

>>134668798
That is an impressive list of countries you named that turned Commie. Stop LARPing as an academic and go back to your japanimation masturbation.

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>China
>North Korea
>Communist
Haven't been communist since the 70s, get the fuck out

>>134671717
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6-tlCvVgLw

Aren't they using this hymn again?

>>134666278
>old school communism is slowly dying
>more and more countries adopt capitalism
>world is in a much more shittier state
Really activates my almonds.

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>>134666278
With Jews, you lose.

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>>134666278
>How can there still be actual communists in 2017?

Biggest one is the united states of america.

Tens of trillions of taxpayer money has been siphoned into private pockets.

Corporate welfare state.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smedley_Butler#Business_Plot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y06NSBBRtY

https://youtu.be/zdMbmdFOvTs?t=310

>>134669562
Why is Jordan Peterson leftypol's boogeyman?

>>134671805
Using communist symbols and songs doesn't make a country communist. I guess Russia and all the Soviet-bloc countries are still communist because they still have soviet buildings and use soviet anthems.

>>134666278
>Communism doesn't work
Bahahahaha! Capitalists unironically believe this!
The USSR emerged as a superpower after a war that would cripple most countries for centuries. Every other Communist nation was instantly thrown into the Cold War and mercilessly bombed, blockaded, and had terrorist groups being funneled in to destabilize the government. Just imagine the roles were reversed and someone bombed the shit out of every country that tried becoming Capitalist and then faggots saying that Capitalism doesn't work because every country that tried it went to shit. LOL

>>134671969
Because he's right

>>134666278
China is not communist anymore. They are closer to Mussolini's definition of fascism.

>>134671868
>modern communists dont actually care about the working class
>much more concerned with "pee oh cee" and fags
tfw

>>134671969
Because he relies on sweeping and embarrassingly misinformed strawmans of post-modernism and critical theory to make his points. Dude's just fuckin ignorant about philosophy, he should stick to his positive psychology.

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>>134668798
I saw this image on the socialist reddit once, talking about how they prefer their militaries to look like that, disorganized barely equipped rabble, instead of a proper military, because having discipline and uniforms is "bourgeois" or some shit.

>>134672153

This desu. Their merger of corporation and state is something that only a fascist could properly appreciate.

>>134666278
CHinks arent commies at this point

>>134666278
If you mean in the sense of the governments in that political cartoon, those governments are basically organized crime that have managed to stay in power through propaganda, intimidation, etc.

china: brainwash the public with past grandeur, great humiliations, making the world tremble at the future chinese master race, everyone who disagrees with us is racist and on the foreginers' payrolls, give people enough economic freedom so that they're further blinded by mindless consumerism

north korea: keep everyone poor and ignorant by default, they get more only if they're totally loyal to the government, get unconditional support from china to keep the real Korea off their border, have one of the largest militaries per capita and make deals with devils like pakistan

cuba: conveniently for the government, be an island, enjoy the patronage of libshit idiots like justin trudeau and barack obama, keep cars from the 1950s running with creative maintenance and repairs

>>134666278
Should probably have West European leaders stepping up to take their place.

>nk
>communist

>>134671909
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rootless_cosmopolitan
>The campaign included a crusade in the state-controlled mass media to expose literary pseudonyms, which were used by many Jews, by putting real names in parenthesis
DAILY Reminder the (((meme))) is not a meme.

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>>134672127
>ust imagine the roles were reversed and someone bombed the shit out of every country that tried becoming Capitalist and then faggots saying that Capitalism doesn't work because every country that tried it went to shit
You're acting like Communism never opposed Capitalism during the Cold War.

>>134671654
Capitalism isn't an experiment but the natural state of the world

>>134672410
So they're like every other government.

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>>134671654
>"muh invisible hand"
You don't actually know what the invisible hand is, do you?

>>134672819
So everything before capitalism just didn't happen, huh

The USSR literally needed to open the market for a short period of time because their economy was going shit.

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>>134671654
Is that all you got you buttblasted cunt? All I heard was "reeeeee why won't they belieb in communism reeeeeeeee". Plz move to fucking Cuba where your not allowed to have inets faggot.

>>134672924
I'm not sure what you're implying.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invisible_hand

In a choice between the two extremes of complete laissez faire and gommunism, the choice goes to gommunism for me. However, the real world isn't america, that is, it's not black and white. There's shades of gray to it.

>>134673015
Is that all you got you buttblasted cunt? All I heard was "reeeeee why won't they belieb in capitalism reeeeeeeee". Plz move to fucking Detroit where your raped by niggers daily faggot.

>>134672577
Literally never happened in the same sense

>>134666278
>How can there still be actual communists in 2017?

Our social, environmental and economic reality is constantly changing. A planned economy might work with powerful enough computers to forecast and shape demand.

>>134672173
We must eradicate the neo marxists, comrade. Also daily reminder that marx was part of the London bourgeois.

>>134672859
Much worse, you have clearly never lived in a despotic country.

>>134673299
I was born in the USSR and now live in the USA. I'd say I lived in two despotic countries.

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>>134673239
>A planned economy might work with powerful enough computers to forecast and shape demand.

How will computers help when people controlling the system at gunpoint falsify input data?

>>134673172
At least I would die quickly instead of slowly starving or being cannibalized in your shitty commie state

IT'S 2017!

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>>134673212
Well if Communism can't stand up to any resistance then what good is it?

>>134673453
Remplace them with more computers
Also remplace the workers with machines
In fact take away humans all together, when the cogs in the machine are literal cogs in a machine is when it works.

>>134670334
Is money people earn per year not an effective way to determine their value?

>>134673239
>with powerful enough computers to forecast and shape demand.
Why the hell would you need computer-based planned economy when you already have computer-based economic planning? Serious question.

>>134671426
>real communism has never been tried meme.
Real communism has never been tried, it is impossible to implement. The anarchic society can never be achieved. This is why commies, libertarians, ancap, ancom flags ideologies etc etc are fucked, they can never be achieved.

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>>134667815


>all the dumb faggots taking this dumb faggot literally
>can't see it's some faggot LARPing as a retarded commie

Anons, please...

>>134671654
Capitalism is the most natural state of The Market in existence. Cavemen literally came together and voluntarily traded sticks for rocks in a voluntary exchange where they both saw added value at some point. Capitalism.

Socialism/Communism has to have unnatural forces applied to the market by The State in order to even exist. Then you wonder why it doesn't work when it collapses back into the natural state of things? Fucking retarded.

>>134673423
If that's actually true, you'll notice that the USSR isn't one of the statues in the political cartoon, because the government wasn't able to keep everything together. It was very poor toward the end but not as bad as the rest.

>>134666278
China isn't a communist country.

The ruling party has the label, but their government simply doesn't have the fundamentals of communism.

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I really don't see any problem that communism might solve that Distributism doesn't already solve better.

>>134666278
why is it our problem? Team america world police.

>>134670636
Ктo нe paбoтaeт тoт нe ecт

>>134666278

Because contrarianism will always be a thing.

>>134673423
>I was born in the USSR
This is how I know your a fedora tipping larpfag. If you were that old you wouldn't be acting like a 5th grader on a Tibetan Testicle tying forum. Literally every Russian I've ever met had nothing but disdain for the communist system, especially those that left it and came to America.

>>134673734

>Capitalism is the most natural state of The Market in existence

Nah, barter is.

If you wiped banks away, that's what humans would use.

>>134673734
By that logic sharing things in communal living like early tribes did proves that communism is just as natural.
Trading sticks is to capitalism is what a tribe leader telling you to chop wood for the tribe is to communism.
Literally not an argument, the precursors of both systems always existed simultaneously.
>>134673769
And the US will fall too in time. We see it already as people are starting to wake up to the manipulations of our corrupt government and the economic and military dominance of the states diminishes abroad.

>>134672347
Your right theyre edging closer to nat soc in a big way.

>>134672819
caputalism isnt sustainable with fiat currencies and every nation cant back their currency with precious metals

every single economist is taught that maintaining growth over time becomes more difficult and at a point impossible. without gdp growth at sufficient levels minting more currency will depreciate any fiat currency

its why the euro declined so much after just a decade. even with the regulations they minted to much to often and their gdp growth tanked. 0.3% gdp growth in france first quarter 2017

>>134674144
Yes, only libshits who have had the privilege of living in countries like the US their whole lives say they can't tell the difference between the US and North Korea, that's why I responded that way.

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>>134674286
>By that logic sharing things in communal living like early tribes did proves that communism is just as natural.
Except those tribes still had property, tribalism, and hierarchy.

>>134674144
>Literally every Russian I've ever met had nothing but disdain for the communist system
Cкaзaл oн нa бopдe гдe вce пocтoяннo нoют чтo pyccкиe yвaжaют Cтaлинa...

>>134674373
>every nation cant back their currency with precious metals
>precious metals
>precious
>metals

There is nothing precious about precious metals. They are just lumps of clag.

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/pol/ BTFO

sassy socialist memes is the best fb page possible. Why wont you just try real communism for once?

>>134670334
>Goods will be available depending on how much you produce.

Gee Mao, it's almost like you could set up a system where people can work, but workers with more valuable jobs and skillsets are better rewarded. Instead of just giving them bread, how about we give them tokens instead, so they can choose what to exchange those tokens for, or simply save them for later consumption. You could even have specialty markets for those tokens where they can get superior goods for more tokens, like chocolate cakes. That way, more jobs exist and more tokens are exchanged. Those with a lot of tokens could even put them in a big vault, where they have people to protect/manage those extra tokens.

I wonder what we could call this system?

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>>134667815
>Real communism has never been tried before.

>>134674497
Yup. As I clearly said in that post.
What part of "the precursors of both systems always existed simultaneously" do you not comprehend?

>>134674513
Nice keyset faggot, I have one for every language on earth.

>>134674497
Source or fuck off. Tribal communities survived by mutual co-operation and shared resources. Every member having a role for survival=/=hierarchy

>>134674651
Communism only happens after socialism, which can only happen after capitalist infrastructure has been established. Neither of those conditions have ever been met by the big Commie states.

>>134674513
>Cкaзaл oн нa бopдe гдe вce пocтoяннo нoют чтo pyccкиe yвaжaют Cтaлинa...
You're not on sosach tho

>>134672819
Nope not even once
Tribalism is the natural order of the world.

and Venezuela, there's gotta be more than that right?

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>>134674599

>>134673604
Communism is an unstable system. Apart from merely economical instability (superrich get all the money, consumers lose all the money, here you go, a crisis, a meltdown), it results in accumulation of power and resources in the hands of those who do not contribute anything of value, who than start harming the society in various ways.

Of course, economy can be regulated, but that would be socialism too.

Literally all the problems that /pol/ is concerned with: depopulation, mass migration, shitty government in service of corporations, shitty fake news in service of corporations are direct consequence of unrestrained capitalism.

>>134674286
>Trading sticks you found on the ground voluntarily with another individual....

>...is the same as an outside force (tribal leader) telling you when and how to trade and for what amount.

The funny part is you don't even realize how fucking stupid you sound. What part of 'natural state' does your peabrain not comprehend?

>>134673806
Distributism is literally a pipe dream.

Communism and socialism perfectly align with Christian faith, but also have a practical and applied theory and politics behind them.

>>134675020
>depopulation, mass migration, shitty government, shitty fake news
literally every single one of those things has happened under communism already.

>>134674948
awful content, absolutely low effort aping of a counter signal meme which were ALREADY low effort to begin with.

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>>134674817
>Source or fuck off
Well we know from archaeology and anthropology that early humans fought with each other (and with Neanderthals), and considering how the Native American and African tribes lived and how in the rest of the world when they formed civilization they always were hierarchal in nature that would give the strong suggestion that humans have never been communist.

>>134673606
>computer-based economic planning

Macroeconomic models are endlessly fiddled with to get the results people want.

>Why the hell would you need computer-based planned economy

Because it might possibly be cheaper, better or quicker. You could scrap the entire area of economics, sever the unholy mating of politicians and economists and let the machines decide what to do. If you lived in most countries in the world the results could not be much worse than the politicians and warlords you currently have. You could outsource your economic policy to a server farm somewhere and just get told what to do by email.

Also in the near future we will leave this planet for Mars and settle there. Obviously there will be no malfunctioning markets on Mars, and we cannot send people. Resource allocation and productive activity by the robots could be regulated and controlled through AI without human interference. If we settle something further away where the signals take forever to get there, we need to leave robots in charge with full administrative privileges so they can get on with the multiyear projects required to make it work and react in a timely fashion to changes.

>>134667815
if 200 million people were killed during processes trying to implement Communism, imagine how many would die if they actually achieved their goals... anyway, Communists that say it was never implemented never actually did any reading on the subject... It was implement in its purest form, they followed exactly what Marx told them on his books. You can't judge a system by the results it could potentially get, but by the ones actually seen while those systems ran.

>>134672336

Because they envision themselves as the cool rag-tag rebels, like in the movies (Star Wars, Hunger Games, and probably some more teenage bullshit)

All life is basically a big LARP to them

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>>134675204
>Distributism is literally a pipe dream.
Far less so than socialism or communism.

>>134666278
The current year argument

>>134667815
This is actually correct because communism is unachievable.

>>134674252
Barterism?
Did we just invent a new ism?

>>134675390
>depopulation, mass migration
>has happened under communism already
Oh, don't be so rude. They impose tax on childlessnes when they don't kill anyone in class warfare and purges. And borders are closed, so nobody can't leaave which solves migration issue completely.

>>134674817
Acephalus bands are what you are referring to, and that was like below 10 people. After that they form societies based on complex rules of kinship and marriage. If you want proof, take a look at the Baltic during the Northern Crusades. It was a meeting between two different social make-ups, with the Christians with the more hierarchical system based on law, whereas the pagans tended to still have a stratified system, but based upon social standing and family. This is all assuming that we have moved beyond the hunter-gatherer stage, however, although there is still great reason to believe that hunter-gatherer societies would be stratified based upon individual skill and ability. The strongest get the best resources for example. If you disagreed, fucking fight him for it.

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>>134675204
>Communism and socialism perfectly align with Christian faith, but also have a practical and applied theory and politics behind them.
Convenient, so does Distributism.

>>134675390
>depopulation
Never happened.
>mass migration
Pretty much zero migration
>shitty governmen
China is the most competent government right now.
>shitty fake news
Communist state propaganda is at the very least anti-degenerate. Corporate propaganda is worse in all aspects.

>>134675204
>>134675981
>Communism and socialism perfectly align with Christian faith

"Jesus was a communist" Is the most infuriating of the commie "arguments"

Christianity teaches to share and live a simple life with minimal posessions, but it doesn't permit you to force someone into sharing at gunpoint

>>134675981
>>134675550
Name me a single practical application or real-life influence of Distributism.

>>134675204
Didn't himself Marx say that religion is the opium of the people?

>>134676288
>Christianity teaches to share and live a simple life with minimal posessions, but it doesn't permit you to force someone into sharing at gunpoint
Lol no. Sin must be suppressed and kept at bay with force. Christianity punished sin with extreme prejudice for all of its' history. Some greed and pride-related parts of doctrine were simply suppressed due to its corruption.

>>134676393
*Marx himself
Same thing effectively.

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>>134676330
Western economies between the age of feudalism and the industrial revolution.

>>134676288
Yeah, but they'll completely ignore Jesus teaching's as long as they can push their political points across.

>>134676230
>China
>zero migration

There are more people moving around China looking for work than there are living in Pakistan. China had the largest migration in human history as their people moved off the land and into the Pearl River Delta cities.

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>>134674651

Oh, are we doing this again?

>>134666278
>this is what subhumans believe

>>134666278

Dunno but national socialism is diffrent amrite? :^)

>>134676230
>Never happened.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambodian_genocide
>Pretty much zero migration
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_transfer_in_the_Soviet_Union

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>>134676554
>provides a list of 8 failed socialist societies
What did he mean by this?

>>134676507
>Lol no. Sin must be suppressed and kept at bay with force.

Citation needed motherfucker

And before you pull an Old Testament quote: The Old Testament promotes hard-core Jewish chauvinism, wars of conquest and human sacrifice

>>134676554
I guess poor socialism never had a chance in the Soviet empire, even though the West has faced a thousand times the opposition and still flourished.

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>>134667815
Real National Socialism either then

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>>134676507
>Sin must be suppressed and kept at bay with force
Envy is a sin anon. Communism is the ideology of envy.

>>134676230
>depopulation
>Never happened.
Cambodia, early USSR
>Pretty much zero migration
Merely because borders are closed in both directions
>shitty governmen
Gorbachev and, for some, even Brezhnev and Khruschev
>shitty fake news
>b-but at least they aren't degenerate
They're still fake

>>134676330
Essentially its renaissance economics without the feudal lords. It existed between the 14th and 17th centurary where it was replaced with capitalism.

>>134676393
Marx isn't a prophet, he is a philosopher.
His opinion of religion was critical of religion in this quote, merely describing it's property in his contemporary society.
>>134676517
>Western economies between the age of feudalism and the industrial revolution.
I do not know the doctrines of it but I believe you are LARPing. You are looking for justification of a doctrine some 200 years before it was born. You cannot show how it itself actually worked.

There are numerous Christian communists and socialists around the world. Not a single serious one of your meme doctrine, and never was since its conception.

>>134677127
Yes, look up famous Cambodians born after 1975, most were born in refugee camps outside the country, especially in Thailand.

>>134676554
>libertarian socialism
Really activates my almonds

>>134677081
You don't know communism, Anon. Communism from a Christian perspective is a strive to return to the garden of Eden on Earth. And while Christian ideals may be unattainable for mere humans, to strive to them both spiritually and physically is a duty of every Christian.

>>134675204
>So I hear you be sayin'
(Launches state sponsored destruction of religious structures)
>that we was
(Wipes out millions of religous minorities in every country it's taken hold in)
>hold up
(waits in line for 10 hours to pick up bread rations)
>christian alligned and shit?
(Destroys priceless cultural artefacts by the truckload in the name of the social progress)

Communists are so retarded it's not even funny

>>134677735

And you have completely skipped my question about any justification of forceful distribution in the New Testament

Probably because there isn't any lol

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>>134677735
>I do not know the doctrines of it but I believe you are LARPing.
That's pretty rich coming from a communist.

>>134677735
>You are looking for justification of a doctrine some 200 years before it was born. You cannot show how it itself actually worked.
Actually yes I can. Check out pic related for the actual ideology itself, and check out (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_history_of_Europe#Crafts_and_urban_growth) for how it worked from the 14th to 18th centuries.

>>134677580

>>134677127
>early USSR
Wasn't a consequence of of communist policies or communists at all.
>Cambodia
Yep. One country.
>Merely because borders are closed in both directions
No shit Sherlock! Also the borders were only closed in Warshaw pact and only after Stalin came to power.
>Gorbachev and, for some, even Brezhnev and Khruschev
Everybody can fail sometimes. China didn't.
>They're still fake
Still better in terms of /pol/ values.

>>134666278
They forgot Laos and Vietnam

>>134677905
Name a single successful communist who was also a devout christian. The only thing real communists have ever worshiped was dictators and unrealistic ideologies

>>134677735
The doctrine was named after it existed. This is not uncommon, feudalism wasn't a common term until long after feudalism had died out in Europe.

Essential doctrines of distributionist economics are. Private property. Freedom of association In guilds where people congregate but everyone is self employed. Work goes to the guild and you take the job you want. Banking would usually be nationalised but it doesn't have to be, only requirement is bank cant charge interest.

Societal views are pretty much be a good Catholic.

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>>134678152
>>134677002

I respond to you like this. The New testament values (that didn't contradict the interests of the ruling class) were enforced with extreme prejudice. Thus, the only reason socialist values were not is because they contradicted those interests.

>>134678448
Ironically Vietnam is becoming our best friend in Southeast Asia because we have a common enemy, china. Naturally Thailand is still our "Israel" in the region.

Also ironically Laos is the poorest country in Southeast Asia and basically a big nothingburger.

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>>134678717
You seem to be conveniently leaving out the parts that you don't like, calling the support of capitalism a "corruption" while the use of violence is apparently completely natural to Christianity.

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>>134678543
ARE YOU KIDDING MEEE!!! Fucking everyone in Latin America.

>>134678717
>historically the Church has often misinterpreted the Scripture and done some bad things
>thus, socialism is a Christian ideology, even though there is no basis for that in the Scripcture

The jump in logic is fucking beyond me

>>134677735
So, him saying that religion is the opium of the people is him describing the actual ideal state of religion is his society?

Explain further, because that doesn't sound logical to me at all, I've never seen any interpretation that resembles that. He has stated that it is "the sigh of the oppressed worker, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions" and some people look at that as a positive outlook on it. however he also said "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is the demand for their real happiness"

Your mileage may vary, but I think what he was trying to say is that it's a way for capitalists to validate the work load they place on the worker, saying "work and you shall be rewarded in the afterlife", and beyond that I don't think that it had any place in his society given that he viewed it as "fake happiness"

Many communist states have issued state atheism as a result.

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>>134678955
Even the Pope, cucked as he is, doesn't quite know what to make of that level of retardation.

>>134667815
Can you define communism if it has never been tried? what makes a system communist?

>>134670137
>Cubans
>happy
Not according to my cuban coworker, so i don't believe that,
Also only a few percent of the population has internet and you practically can't get beef

>>134674948
You have a point, but you completely fail to understand the essence of smuggles, the lowest effort and easiest memes to make.

>>134678955
>popes face when
Kek

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>>134667815
obligatory

>>134678389
>give examples
>th-those examples aren't good enough

>>134678955
>everyone in Latin America
>devout Christian
>Communist
most non-devout Christians are gang members and thugs, most communists aren't devout Catholics
t. spic

>Wasn't a consequence of of communist policies or communists at all.
lol
>kill 150k
>cause 1,5m to flee
>Wasn't a consequence of of communist policies or communists at all.

>Yep. One country.
Previously it was "Never happened". Now let me guess, NK famine is also not a result of communist policies, right?

>>134680621
meant to >>134678389

>>134678389
China isnt communist you stupid fuck.
China stopped being communist in 1978.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_economic_reform

It allowed private enterprise for the first fucking time since 1949.

>>134667708
but therefore western civilization have increasingly accepted marxist ideas

>>134671132
>proppe up

Bullshit. It isn't propped up by that, it'd dragged down by it.

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>>134680913
>b-but they call themselves the "Communist Party"
I swear commies have no principles, they flip back and forth on whether the USSR and China is communist whenever it's convenient for them.

>>134678389
>better in terms of /pol/ values
>implying /pol/ is one person
Would you starve to death already anon.

>>134680913
You are illiterate fool. China allowed private enterprise since 1949. Russia was mostly a market economy till the 1930s.

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>>134666278
Communists are the entire public sector of our own nation(s). The state is insolvent yet it "employs" people

Turn off the TV, OP

>>134669458
I like the stuff I have. I wish I had more. I could give a fuck less what you have.
Wrong.

>>134681094
Communists have no retarded dogmatism. Also, communists and marxists are a huuge number of people and movements, who do not have a uniform opinion.

>>134681094
>>134682090
Communism is what you feel inside! :3 :3 :3
P.S. That wasn't real communism, tho. :3 :3 :3

>>134681094
How do you convince left wing ancaps to become right wing ancaps?

>>134680024
>no alunya rule34 of her getting fucked by porky
god damnit

>>134679160
Marx himself was an atheist and he believed it to be the most enlightened position obviously.

>him saying that religion is the opium of the people is him describing the actual ideal state of religion is his society?
No, the description of what he saw in a real society he lived in. Neither positive or negative.
>Many communist states have issued state atheism as a result.
The only notable antireligious campaign, though, was carried out by Stalin till the 40s.

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>>134682031
Hi, member of the public sector of my nation here.
I'd like to keep my property and don't feel entitled to anyone else's, thanks.

>>134668798
Lol, Franco literally tortured leftists to death to see if communism was a biological illness. He was a fascist. No punishment ever came for him.

NatSoc works better than Socialism. Deal with it.

>>134666278
Forgot Chile

>>134682235
How retarded can you be?
What do you make of the fact that there are numerous variants of Liberalism?
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=variants+of+liberalism&title=Special:Search&go=Go&searchToken=4k34nvjtbd7b7nuaq8oapx5eo
What do you make of the fact that there are thousands of Christian or Muslim sects in the world that vary and disagree on the issue of Christianity or Islam with each other?

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>>134682244
Bullets! Apply directly to the forehead!
Bullets! Apply directly to the forehead!
Bullets! Apply directly to the forehead!
Bullets!

Available at Dick's Sporting Goods.

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>>134682480
the money you "earn" is printed to pay you. This devalues all the currency in circulation. This is your entitlement to the value of others. You are not paid with tax revenue since your nation is in trillions of dollars in debt.

Think about it - you pay income tax to your employer but you are paid by your employer borrowing money to pay you. So your employer is making a loss at your benefit (in the short term) and in the longterm your employer will fail economically, just like every socialist system.

Its guaranteed.

>>134666278
vietnam?

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>>134682090
>Communists have no retarded dogmatism
They can't even seem to agree on whether private property and hierarchy is communist or not.

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>>134682516
Still preHitler. Still fell. Communism lives and has enormous influence. Fascism no longer exists.

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>>134666278
>How
Kike brainwashing.

The truth about immigration, by the numbers:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE

Cultural Marxist Jews Admit Organizing White Genocide

The plan to eliminate the white race:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOgkGzMdieI

Cultural Marxism in action… Political Correctness, the tip of the blade:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6c_dinY3fM

Cultural Marxism & Social Justice Explained:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnqIj8C2Aek

Why are we in Decline - Cultural Marxism:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VggFao85vTs

also see

The facts about slavery in North America:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5tci36bNjg
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFHa4db3hA0

Cultural Marxist Jews fund media propaganda against whites on an enormous scale:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4Ojbi6lXQI

Does this sound familiar at all? (starting at 6:52)
>https://youtu.be/kPdxhLUKZYM?list=PLo0ThsDnveH5nv5TNviBrGTX9P6IrYfIe&t=412

The Holocaust:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPc899uUb-A
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgGP_evkvOk
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxpIsep4160

>>134668864
Can someone post expanded version of this?

>>134683000
>You are not paid with tax revenue since your nation is in trillions of dollars in debt.
>if you owe money the only way you can possibly pay anybody is by printing money
Shit I guess I've never bought anything in my life since I have a credit card. Wish I knew how I was printing money though...

>>134666438
>There aren't, just lazy niggers who want free shit.
Or to put it another way, this.

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>>134683038
>Make one choice

Stay outraged, faggot.

>>134666278

>CURRENT YEAR
>HAVING DIFFERENT POLITICAL OPINIONS THAN ME

Wow, the irony is delicious

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>>134683227
The state merely extends itself credit to pay your salary. This devalues all currency in circulation. Your credit card is the same - you are creating new currency with each use. You are screwing yourself over, along with everyone else in your nation who have to take the "hit" of a devaluing currency.

Believe me - you "employer" considers everything you buy with their credit theirs.

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>>134683456
That must be your dream, no one having a political opinion that isn't deemed accepted by the party.

>>134667815
bait

>>134673044
>Wikipedia page
>Understanding as broad a concept as the invisible hand
>Doesn't know about creative destruction

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>>134683038
>Communism lives and has enormous influence
Over North Korea?

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>>134683881
>The state merely extends itself credit to pay your salary.
No, you idiot, the state, like any other economic entity, distributes resources based on needs.

If I have $10 and I haven't eaten I'm not going to say "well I have to pay off my credit card this month so I guess I shouldn't eat until I'm solvent"
The debt can wait, food can't.

Similarly, employee paychecks can't wait, international debt (which is designed to be held as leverage and not paid off, by the way) can.

>>134668456
Rare

>>134680024
omg that prole is about to be exploited HARD

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>>134672285

>any argument i don't like is a strawman!

kys commie

>>134684214
>the debt can wait
Until it can't because it has reduced you to a 3rd world country.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-developing-nation-regressing-economy-poverty-donald-trump-mit-economist-peter-temin-a7694726.html

>>134684476
Archive or screenshot please
https://archive.is/Qpmod

>>134684476
That's not because of debt that's because of retards like you that have no idea how to use debt effectively and just see it as free money.

Debt is an extremely useful tool that can be easily used to increase your assets but morons just like to pretend they're rich by buying shit they can't possibly pay off.

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>>134684502
So what I'm getting from this graph, is that communism supports unsustainable growth.

>>134667815
Wow Im amazed such basic bait and so many replies, cg anon

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>>134684214
>the state distributes resources based on needs.
This is literally a communist slogan.

The state has no resources - its insolvent to the tune of 20 Trillion (about)

www.usdebtclock.org

>>134684691
No. Capitalism is very inefecent t resource distribution which makes it have a weaker economy.

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>>134666278
Because girls in college are fucking stupid. American here, only communists I've ever met have been college campus feminists. They're as stupid as they come

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>>134667815
nice bait

>>134684838
It distributes its personal resources. I thought that was implied but I forgot I was dealing with someone who understand economics at a 3rd grade level.

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>>134667815

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>>134666278

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>>134684855
So then why did the USSR collapse?

>>134681516
You are correct mao didnt officially end private enterprise until 7 years later. By 1952 private enterprise constituted 17% of the economy, by 1956 private enterprise didnt exist.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_history_of_China_(1949–present)

Also the SU flirted with private industry and ownership throughout its short brutal history, it failed on all accounts to strike a decent balance.

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>>134668456
r a r e
a
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>>134684916
it prints its "resources" as needed and this devalues all currency in circulation.

You are basically a government backed thief.

>>134682244
>Left wing ancaps
What does this mean, what does a left wing ancap look like?

>>134685122
>it prints its "resources" as needed and this devalues all currency in circulation.
If that's how it worked all currencies would be in zimbabwe tier inflation

Protip: that's not how it works.

>>134673539

there is no resistance in communism because all of the capitalist class has been liquidated by then

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>>134671969
Nothing scares commies more than an academic that doesn't buy into their bullshit.

>>134684855
What the fuck am i reading
>i want x
>buys x
>money is now distributed to x
>resources shall now be diverted to x to make more x and so person making x can make more money

THERE ISN'T AND NEVER WILL BE ANYTHING MORE EFFICIENT

>>134667815
>Real communism has never been tried before.

>"I'm still hopeful I can live off handouts.'

>>134685008
Well, thank you for acknowledging some facts, which is a rarity on the imageboards, actually.

>Also the SU flirted with private industry and ownership throughout its short brutal history, it failed on all accounts to strike a decent balance.
Failed or not, it was significantly more successful than pre- or postsoviet Russia.

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>>134685347
So you admit it's impossible then? If communism can only work if the capitalist class has been liquidated, but communism is incapable of defeating the capitalist class, communism therefore must be impossible.

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>>134685263
The US can export its inflation since its the worlds reserve currency.
Theres way more dollars outside the US than inside.
When those dollars come back to the US when the world no longer trusts or wants dollars he US will experience Zimbabwe inflation. Its already happened, really, its just theres also methods of manipulating the inflation you experience currently. Derivatives for eg.

>>134669108
>Communism will always win in the end.
As long as people like you control the rules of the game.

>>134685468
>more successful than pre or post soviet russia.
For whom? Soviet russia the people were all equally poor.

Pre soviet russia was most successful, seeing as the Tsar was the state and he had all the money, nobody else mattered. Post soviet russia is debatable, for the first time since the Cuban missile crisis russia is throwing it weight around and the yanks actually give a shit.

>>134685811
Wow go figure, you have no fucking clue how currency trading works either.

You can't "export inflation"
ALL countries hold reserves currencies from other countries to offset the volatility of their own. There is no one singular reserve currency.

>>134684855
Fuck being directly responsible for my own place in society right? Why have the freedom to make choices about how I can live my life when the government can decide everything for me?

>>134685586
zero (0) replies

There's no way out of the fact that automation is going to take everyones job very soo. Either we institute universal basic income or we kill the poor. I don't want to kill the poor.

>>134686201
>There is no one singular reserve currency.
bitcoin

>>134686541
but please ignore my post as it pertains to the quotechain. I didn't read it, and I'm not arguing.

>>134667815
(You)

>>134686444
I've seen these breaches in logic all the time, talk to a communist long enough and eventually he becomes unable to defend his ideology using logic. I've had about 3 or so commies admit that communism will probably never work, but as they put it, "if communism can't work what reason does humanity have to live for?".

>>134668091
Aaaand there it is.

Helicopter ride for you

>>134668890
Hivemind

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>>134668864

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>>134686201
I know how currency trading works. Its not currency trading.

Its hilarious that you are a government "employee" and you are basically quoting Marx.

>>134686201
Debatable https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reserve_currency

The US dollar is 60% of the globe's reserve I can only assume the US has enough euros and gold and denbt owed to offset stupid inflation. I am by no means an expert though.

>>134686162
IMO the problem with soviet russia wasn't the communism it ws the isolationism. The first world's technology advanced faster basically because the first world was bigger thn the second and had more resources, when the communist block shut itsself off behind the iron curtain it made it a lot harder for technology to reach them. so quality of life stagnated. Then when they started taking down the iron curtain and everyone saw how much more advanced the west was, communism collapsed. Its no surprise that the one remaining communist power is china, the most resource rich and populous country in the world.

>>134666373
>north korea is not communist

North Korea is the ultimate end result of any true attempt at communism.

>>134667815
Communist regime survivor here, came just to laugh at you.

>>134686702
>"if communism can't work what reason does humanity have to live for?".
that's an easy one

killing commies

>>134687222
>I know how currency trading works. Its not currency trading.
I literally JUST proved that you didn't so...
>>134687260
The USD is the most used reserve currency, yes but it's not the only one. The point I was making was that, if it worked like that idiot thought, we'd be importing just as much inflation form other countries as we are exporting.

>>134686702

People will rebel when they come to see the contradictions of capitalism one day in sufficient numbers or their living conditions become ridiculous compared to the capitalist class, the gap between the rich capitalist and the prole is getting wider and wider, is a matter of time that people will say that it's enough, as it has happened in fact in the past, it will most probably happen again, only scenario I see it not happening in the future is that humans go extinct for x reason.

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>>134686201
PS - the US exports its inflation - its a fact.

Look it up

https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052748704405704576064252782421930

>>134686444
My first (you) in this thread came from that anon.
My first (you) from a communist was because I got some historical date wrong on when China ended private enterprise.

They seem incapable of defending their shit.

>>134667815
>Real communism has never been tried before.

If communism is such a natural end stage order of human political evolution, why is it constantly and universally failing in its implementation?

Could it be that it is actually not so natural at all? Just Utopian pie-in-the-sky bullshit? Incompatible with nature?

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>>134687083
"innocents"
go away commie

>>134687579
Remind me of the "proof"........

I think you are defining things incorrectly. Which makes it impossible to communicate and is why you are so confused.

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>>134687617
And what if they choose fascism or distributism to solve their problems instead?

>>134687842

>constantly

only one single attempt in the USSR and it lasted almost a century, that's a pretty good result.

>>134687622
Nigger...
Lower inflation is a side effect of what is actually being done.
As I said.
>ALL countries hold reserves currencies from other countries to offset the volatility of their own.
It's possible to trade your currency and INCREASE your inflation as well.

As an aside, I love how I can hear your frantic googling from here as you try to quickly educate yourself on shit you obviously don't understand at all.
>>134687900
You think currency trading is "exporting inflation"
That's retarded.

>>134687957

They are inferior systems and they will show eventually.

>>134670399
thanks freind! my daughter will be a brainlet like me now!

>>134671132

Who is asking for "true capitalism"? That's not even the point. The point is that attempts at capitalist systems have proven to work better than communism. Better by far. Of course it needs to be governed and therefore implemented through government.

>>134688270
Lol says the commie

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>>134688270
How are they inferior systems? They seem to have had far fewer problems than communism did.

>>134688428
>Of course it needs to be governed and therefore implemented through government.

do you people even know the DEFINITION of capitalism?

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>>134671254
Slay the Dragon of Chaos and save your father from the belly of a whale.

>>134687389
China isnt communist, communism ended in China in 1978. China also has an extremely high rate of income inequality something characteristicly uncommunist.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_inequality_in_China

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>>134688032
its easy - google "US exports inflation".
I'm not the one proving it - top economists are. Austrian, not keynesianism.

The fact you used "frantic" to describe my behavious shows how insecure your position is - and you know it.

At the end of the day, you are a government employee quoting Marx. You shot your self in the foot with that one.

>>134687391
You actually have to hand it to the norks, theyre the only ones who stuck with it proper.

>>134688012
>it lasted almost a century,

As a brutally repressive, impoverished regime whose accomplishments absorbed almost the entirety of its GDP. Leaving the people with shortages in basic necessities.

North Korea might last as long, but that is anything but a "good result" for their people.

>>134666278

By being an ignorant 19 year old upper middle class College student who wants to be given even MORE, while being more wealthy than most of the population.

>>134688670

There was income inequality is the soviet union.The red party would be living in palaces and having orgies while there were people locked in a gulag.

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>>134688735
>gets called out on "single google search" tier knowledge
>admits it
Guy, you seriously have no clue how any of this works. 3 seconds of google searching isn't going to put you on par with someone who does.
We're arguing on completely different levels.

>>134666278
>>134666278
Global IQ's are dropping so expect more communism in the future

>>134688558
>do you people even know the DEFINITION of capitalism?

Yes. Your rhetorical question notwithstanding, you do not.

>>134666278
You're asking the wrong question. What you should ask is: "How in the actual FUCK can there still be actual capitalists in 2017?"

Hint: The last time the fascists tried to take over, the communists saved us all.

>>134688893
This. We had whole years with no basic necessities, and we always had to buy cars 10-18 years in advance. (basically, first payment is when your child is born, until they turn 18, then they get what the state gives them, like a Jigula or Trabant)
Fuck communism, fuck free child labor during spring break, fuck manifestations, fuck getting friends and family executed or thrown in prison camps for a pollitical joke!

>>134689083

Your previous post indicates you don't have a single idea of what capitalism means

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>>134689118
>implying the commies weren't the ones in need of saving

>>134689118
>the communists saved us all.
Fuck off, you piece of shit! You killed all people with any college degree, took all their posessions, lands and homes, and gave them to your filth! Then you put them in power, destroying our contry for decades to come! Nazis did no harm to Bulgarians!

>>134689292

>Being mad at people who are all dead now.

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>>134689022
I knew the facts before.
I googled searched for your benefit.
You aren't really arguing anything. You are not saying much of any weight. You are just making yourself look stupid.

Its funny to me, but keep trying - and always remember:
>government employee quoting Marx.

>>134689219
>Your previous post indicates you don't have a single idea of what capitalism means

Your objection proves you are a jackass. We can do this all day, little man. Express a real opinion or get back in your brazilian hut. I don't waste time on apes.

>>134689449
I am this mad to all communists, and my grandpa is just as dead now as he was when they killed him.

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>>134669108
#OpenbordersforIsrael

>>134689292
That's your counter-argument? "Nazis did no harm to Bulgarians?"

Try to see the bigger picture.

Hint: Bulgaria signed the T. Agreement in 1941, effectively making them adjunct Nazis. They would certainly have been squashed otherwise. Later Soviet interference in Bulgaria was as a result of Stalin's arguably paranoid construction of a bulwark in Eastern Europe to draw a line that capitalist aggression would not cross.

>>134689292
Well, you became our puppet state and for good reason. You were a willing member of Axis. Some purification had to be done. Some Nazis had to go. You had to pay a price for attacking us.

You aim at Russia - you better not miss.

>>134689492

You don't know what's capitalism.Calling me a "jackass" and "little man" won't change anything.