Stop being authoritarian.

>don't like murder, don't murder
>don't like cp, don't watch it
>don't like organs trafficking, don't buy organs

>>134646412
I know you're mocking me but I don't see a problem with any of these except the murder one because that violates one of the human rights (life, liberty, property)

>>134646412
This.

>don't like raping puppies, don't rape puppies

>>134646258
Stop coming from reddit.

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>>134646556
literally
>b-but muh NAP
kys

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Authoritarian nationalism is the only way forward

>>134646671
Stop being a hypocrite.

>>134646556
What right to life does a drowning man alone in the ocean have? Can he just yell for the waters to subside and they will ebb away because he has a right to his life?

>Don't like living in a decaying society of degenerates? Uh... just uh...

>>134646258
Don't like what others think? Keep living according to your own values. Nobody is stopping you.

>SOCIETY CAN HAVE A COMPLETELY FREE MARKET, WITH NO GOBMENT TAXES OR RESTRICTIONS, MUH NAP, HELL YEAH!

>SOCIETY CAN HAVE A COMPLETELY FREE CLASSLESS STATE, WITH NO CAPITALISTS GETTING RICH, MUH REVOLUTION, HELL YEAH!

:thinking:

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>>134646890
>stop living

Dont like a marriage with trees and walking naked with banana in you asshole on the streets? Don't do that :D

>>134646258
As soon as you stop destroying our civilization

>Don't like being ethnically displaced? Just..well

Wow, bet you think rape is cool too huh?

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>>134646556
Youre admitting that Ancap is just a complicated justification for prostituting children?

>>134646258
>DON'T LIKE THINKING? DON'T THINK JUST LIKE US

kys

>>134647099
Stop blaming others for your peoples failure to reproduce
>>134646890
Why do you care about what your neighbors do?

>>134646258
I will stop being authoritarian when you stop LARPing as an American post-enlightenment, egalitarian you silly goose.

>>134646556
t. pedo

>>134647201
It's fine if the child consents

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>>134647285
Yeah who cares if your entire community is dying from heroin overdoses.

#justlolbertarianthings

>>134646743

This.

The vast bulk of humanity are fucking stupid animals. They're capable of great things, sure--but ONLY when guided and constrained by a strong hand that also sets cultural norms, just like a plowhorse. That's how nature hardwired us.

The so-called Enlightenment has been a failure on every last single level. Historians in later, saner eras will look back on the last three or four hundred years or so as a peculiar, ass-backwards and destructive anomaly.

>>134647344
>so subtle
MOOOOODS!

>>134647285
>Why do you care about what your neighbors do?
They share the majority of my genes. Organisms don't operate on the level of the individual or even the level of the family (nor do they operate on the level of species.) Everything is structured around the gene, which explains the complex societies humans have created. I want the best for my people, and if I see that they are dooming themselves, it's my moral obligation to take a stand. Individualism is nihilism, by the way.

>>134646258
literally none of those things are rights, you fucking faggot

>>134646258
>Stop being authoritarian
make me

>>134646258
>assuming any sane person reads this

the problem isn't the status quo agreements(don't murder, don't steal). It's the people who enjoy stealing and killing.

That argument doesn't make sense when you factor that in.

>>134646556
>don't like people violating human rights?

>>134646556
Picking those three things as "human rights" and "self evident" is a cop out. Why can't I make "ethnically pure homeland" a fourth human right? Why can't I make "traditional household" a fifth one?

>>134647414
If the sane era comes.
My suspicion is that the text"books" in 100 years will have a section about this decade saying "Russian Interference in the 2016 Election: After a campaign filled with anger at the growing diversity in America...Blah blah blah" And will be presented to a country of 80% illiterate Mexicans.

>>134646258
Don't like authoritarians? Stop telling me what to do.

.>>134646556
>violates one of the human rights (life, liberty, property)

that makes no sense
>nigger doesn't want to work
>doesn't work
>asks for food stamps or payments
>for his and his nigger kids
that violates my property rights
but also violates animal rights (nigger life)

>>134647344
fucking pedofag ancap

>>134647285

My community should have the right to set standards of behavior that we all abide by as a part of that community. If you are my neighbor, then what you do has the potential to impact my community, my family and myself. By being a neighbor, you are a part of my community and therefore you have agreed to abide by the rules my community sets. If you violate those rules, you should face sanctions, punishment, exile from the community or worse, just as I will.

Your behavior, in public OR private, IS my business. If you can't abide by the rules our community sets, you should feel free to move to another community where the rules are more to your liking, or even start your own and compete with the rest of civilization, instead of demanding that we kowtow to your whims and complaints.

>>134647414
When that "strong hand" is a batch of fundie clowns, it is time to say "fuck off".

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>>134647948
DXDXDXDX

>>134646258
Don't like farts on public transportation? Don't fart

>Don't like Jews?

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NAP seems to be something that only ever comes up when people criticise AnCap, never actually heard someone who is pro ancap talk about it.


Probably because its not really a part of ancap. If an ancap hears about people prostituting children, then they can put a bounty on the scumbags. How is this so hard for anyone to grasp?

The world doesnt decay into barbarism because under anarchy the people who are covolozed enough to do things like run companies and build equipment (which requires teamwork) can hunt the barbarians for sport without losing a single man.

>>134646258
dont like child rape? dont rape children
dont like terrorism? dont terrorize

>>134646556
>implying organs aren't private property
>implying youthful innocence isn't private property

I see you commiejew.

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>>134646556
libertarianism is such a meme ideology.

Don't like pedephilic?
Don't bang kids

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>>134648223
The only lolbertarians left are pedos and other degenerate freaks

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I think everyone should at least try a psychedelic at least once, by law. Punishable by death.

>>134646412
False equivalency. It clearly says "Don't try to take away the rights of others" - Murder, CP and stolen organs take away the rights of the victims. How does doing drugs or being a faggot take away someone else's rights?

Try using your fucking brain.

>>134648515
That makes no fucking sense. Ideology is memetic by definition. It wasn't until ideology became a thing that we ever knew what memes were.

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i swear to god the only reason libertarianism exists is because they are all pedophiles

you can't tell me what to do

don't like getting called a nigger? don't call people niggers
don't like being poor? don't be poor
don't like being sick? don't be sick
don't like starving? don't starve

btw. you are violating my property rights when you die inside the appartment that I rented to you and you don't pay for

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>>134648282

What you are describing is complicit with ancap. No one who supports ancap has anything against you having a community that holds territory and is internally governed by fascism.

>>134648515
What is wrong with libertarianism? Pretty much everyone in charge is a complete asswipe and incapable of telling others how to live their lives.

>>134646258
>Stop being authoritarian.
It is impossible to not eat GMO in the USA. 100% of us wheat is GMO. Many other foods are following.

You also forgot a few. You can add them to the list later:

>Don't like bacon? Don't shop where they sell it.
>Don't like people out walking their dogs? Don't go outside.
>Don't like western ideals and values? Stay in your 3rd world shithole.
>Don't like freedom of speech? Go find a successful communist country and move there (Protip: You won't)

I just wanted to update your list so that it is more inclusive to the muzzies and the faggot commies.

>>134646258
>Don't like 3rd world shitheads
Tough, they are going to replace you and if you don't like it you're a bigot.

>>134646258
I guess you don't understand the basis of society.

>>134648400

Well said. Anarchy is only as bad as your neighbors. My neighbors haven't killed me yet. Is it because of some words written on paper that say killers go to jail? Or maybe because my neighbor isn't a murderer. I don't think anarchy would change that.

>>134648623
>CP and stolen organs take away the rights of the victims

OP already said that it's fine when there is consent

>starve or CP, your choice
>starve or one of your organs, your choice

>>134646258
Stop being a lolbertarian. You are a laughing stock.

>>134648282
Somebodys behavior in private is nobodys business except their own. If somebody is on your private property, that is one thing. But you have absolutely no fucking right to tell somebody what they can and cannot do on their own private property, unless they are physically harming/stealing from others. Nor do I, nor does anybody else.

>>134648859
>OP already said that it's fine when there is consent

Am I OP, cunt?

Stop bullying me /pol/ I don't have the energy to reply to everything

>>134646258
If the consequences of poor choices only applied to the one making the choice, you'd have a point.

>>134648623
Why are lolbergtardians all such snowflake faggots that sperg out when people point out legitimate flaws in their reasoning? It's always:
>muh false equivalency
>muh NAP
Try using your peabrain instead of Rothbard's, shrimp dick.

https://youtu.be/C-SsMQMFq8c

>>134648687
What are you gonna do, bitch, sue a corpse? Even if the corpse was still alive, if he is renting an apartment and doesnt own his own home, chances are that he wouldn't have shit to sue for in the first place.

>>134646556
a lot of autists on /pol/ believes that gay marriage is a precursor to cp, Drugs and Alcohol is a precursor to murder...etc.

You are choosing to narrow your locus of cause and effect to include include the effects. Some individuals on /pol/ has a wider locus than you and even though they may be wrong and i disagree with them on some things (because /pol/ is not a person) you need to answer the question the propose ("Does gay marriage lead to cp") for example instead of just saying they are stupid and discounting a possibly good question.

Fuck off OP. Human rights are for cucks and homos. Take everyone's rights, kill everyone.

>>134649098
No, just turn whatever family you have into sex slaves. After letting them celebrate that you're finally fucking dead, of course.

Don't like nativity scenes? Don't look at them or don't buy one

Don't like churches? Don't go to one

Don't like Halloween and Christmas parties? Don't go.

Don't like Christmas being called Christmas? Ignore it.

Don't like that Christian baker not making a fag-cake? Go somewhere else that will.
Oh wait I forgot this is a one-sided argument by hypocrite leftists who don't give a shit about rights and only give a shit about exerting their will onto Christians and ONLY Christians.

>>134648687

Seriously?

You just described the point of ancap.

The point is to let the poor, the sick, and the hungy die. While all you stormfags rage around about how niggers and fags and degenerates are a drain on society, Ancaps just understand that nature will sort it out.

Why genocide some shithole when all you have to do is stop sending armed peacekeepers.

Half the world is another rwanda waiting to happen

>>134648927
>"Don't try to take away the rights of others
>>organ trafficking
>stolen organs
not the same
also
>there must be victims here, there can't be consent

>>134647848

I really don't think it's going to come to that.

Trump's election signaled a massive, permanent change in this country. For the first time in decades, people are finally beginning to wake up en masse and understand where the real sources of our national problems and weaknesses--liberal progressive "democracy," cultural liberalization and cultural dilution. More to the point, they're finally beginning to understand that they're actually free to begin discussing this in a public forum, without immediately being shouted down. And they're getting angry. We should be doing everything we can to encourage and stoke this rage in everyone around us at every turn, and giving them useful targets for that rage.

Honestly, I don't give a fuck about Trump the man. He's a means to an end, a first tiny step, nothing more. He's the one who signaled to the rest of the world that we're Nationalism is alive, and Natiionalism will win out. If he does nothing else but that, then he will go down in history as the greatest leader of this country. If we're lucky, perhaps in ten years, we'll finally be culturally mature enough that we'll be able to handle the cultural optimization, mass societal cleansing and reorganization that's we're going to need. But make no mistake, it's coming.

Take heart. If one small European country with virtually no resources and a devastated economy can physically remove millions of troublemakers in the middle of the worst war in human history, imagine what WE can do when we're finally fed up enough.

>>134646258
>>/leddit/

>>134646258
Impolite!

>>134646412
great examples cause not affecting other people is the same as directly affecting people. can you also add "dont like shit, dont take shits"

all your memetext bullshit involves someone directly affecting somenone else negatively. i believe that as long as your bullshit affects no one but you, its ok. as soon as you start forcing shit upon those who dont seek it, you should be held liable. all your examples feature a victim, some entity unwilling and negatively affected by someone elses decision. u dont have a right to deny other living things their rights.

i dont give a shit if u smoke like a chimney, but if u tie me down, take a deep drag, lock lips with me and exhale into me, that is not the same as 'you smoking'.

do what you want but dont force your bullshit on others. any memetier rejection of the OP will 100% involve forcing shit onto some unwilling entity which only proves that you tards dont get it.

>>134646258
Don't tell me what to do, stop being authoritative to me, hypocrite.

>>134648282
Ancaps just dont want their money going towards a global welfare/peacekeeping system. If you want to send your money to ethiopia so bonquiqui can have four more kids be my guest. I (and other ancaps) just dont think we should have to

>>134648892

>Muh rights!
>MUH PRIVACY!

No. You agreed to abide by our community's rules, remember? If you're running a heroin den in your house or selling atrocious porn out of your basement, then yes, you're affecting ME even though your behavior is confined to your house. We'll hang your mankey ass from a tree.

Don't like it? You should probably move somewhere where they don't mind that kind of thing, then. I would.

>>134649206
>The point is to let the poor, the sick, and the hungy die.
that's just neo-libs.

The fags should also die and shouldn't get supported by tax payers because they "married".

Also this makes no sense, because it still allows such animals to have so called "rights". They should have no rights, because that automatically means that someone will have to pay for niggers, fags and other degenerates in some way or another.

>>134649198
I agree with everything here

>>134649403

I'm sorry, would you like to point out where I said that I'd like to support third-world shitholes?

For all the authoritaricucks here I have some great recommendations for countries that function how you want suck as North Korea, Older China, and Kazakhstan. As you can see they're all economically developed for the average citizen and have a much higher standard of living than more libertarian countries

>>134649553
don't like polluted air and chemical waste everywhere? don't pollute air and dump chemical waste

>>134649776
Some people are born to follow and are in love with their rules. Some of us want to be left the fuck alone.

>>134646258
>dont like guns, dont buy guns

Its funny how liberals are so quick to defend their own rights but no one elses.

>>134649403
Charity is a million times more effecient than government welfare and people would give to charity way more when they aren't paying absurdly high taxes.

Red states give more to charity than blue states :)

>>134646258
A property owner can ban all of that.

don't like incompetent quacks, that will kill you b/c incompetent instead of properly treat you? don't be an incompetent quack
don't like violations of rights? don't violate rights

>>134646258
>Don't like your neighbours partying and keeping you up at night? Don't Party and keep others up at night.

the problems people have with the things you listed is that they do harm us in the end.
even if i don't eat GMO's non-GMO foods will die out because some fat gay slob doesn't care.
then i will have to eat GMO's or starve to death.

>>134646258
A lot of these are damaging to society, so these are not "rights" but dangers.

>gay marriage
>drugs
>alcohol
>fastfood

>>134649032
He clearly pointed out why it's a valid false equivalency. How about you you come up with an actual argument that's not; "you use have an argument I can't refute so I'll call you out on using the argument too often''.

>>134646258
Growing GMO crops takes away everyone's right to have GMO free food

Besides how do you if what you are eating is gmo without labelling?

>>134646258
this faggot doesnt understand what societal pressure is

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>>134646556
Don't like human rights? Don't have human rights.

>>134650311
>>134650479
>>134650842

THIS. All of these!

>>134646855
'Twas the sea that took his life, not another man.

>>134650914
OP:
Don't like GMO not being labeled? Label GMO yourself
Don't like GMO not being labeled? Analyse it yourself

The worst thing isn't even genetically modified plants. The worst thing is actually that they make plants literally immune against certain poisons and then dump tons of poisons on that plant. And then they say that those poisons, which do make farmers of such fields really sick, wouldn't be a problem at all.

They are literally poisoning fields and people intentionally. That should be a problem for OP's ideology, but it seems it isn't.

>>134649206
>>134649206

THANK YOU.

You understand what no liberal and all too few so-called conservatives will ALLOW themselves to understand:

Individual human life isn't precious. It's exactly as precious as the dump I took an hour ago. People are a commodity, and their value to the community is equal to their base economic and cultural output. They're the equivalent of cells in a human body.

Sure cells are important...in the aggregate. But you lose a few thousand of them at any given time without harm, and it's even beneficial to the body as a whole. More cells will grow in their place. Your body sloughs off the useless refuse.

The people you describe are roughly equivalent to metastatic tumor cells. You've got a few of them in your body at any given time, but as long as it's ONLY a few and they're dealt with--starved, removed by your immune system--there's no harm. Too many, and systems are compromised. Organs stop working. The body eventually sickens and dies.

Western society is the equivalent of a human body that's raddled with cancer. It will only survive through radical chemotherapy and extreme medical intervention.

It's time to remove the tumors, and let the cancer cells die. Humanity depends on it.

>>134651796
I really like you.

>>134646258
>dont like debt? dont pay
I could get behind that

Except drugs and alcohol actually hurt others through proxy.
Whoever made this is retard and obviously didn't heard of drunk-driving.

>>134648852
Well, that's exactly the reason I don't resort to killing, though I am not your neighbor.

>>134646258

If you are a responsible and educated adult, you can see why all the things in the list are to be avoided like the plague.

But children (0-20 year olds) cannot comprehend the implications of such things and won't see the bigger picture.

>>134651952
That's not how it works but good try at being clever.

>>134652486
>OP makes retarded post
>respond with retarded post to mock him
>hurrr wai yo made retard poost

>>134651796
>Individual human life isn't precious
yes, so remove the cancer that is niggers, fags, kikes and so on.

But OP isn't like that. He still thinks that those degenerate animals should have rights. And that's the problem.

Worse: at least kikes would continue kiking.

He's also okay with degeneracy like porn.

OP is a Jew. I feel it.

>>134652637
Yours was especially retarded because the idea would be to not get something you can't afford rather than not pay your debts. A broke nigger doesn't need a $30k car.

>>134646258
Don't tread on me treading wherever I please.

>>134652095
The problem with Libertarianism is that it assumes humans are islands and follows a general idea of "if it feela good, it is good". Unfortunately for them, humans live in societies and degenerate behaviour has a negative impact upon society as a whole.

GMO crops violate the NAP.

>>134652727
I know burgers struggle with education and all but try to keep up with the rest of the board ok?

>>134651952

>In debt
>refuses to pay on debt

The ones to whom you owe money should be able to extract payment from you, since you agreed to their terms in order for them to lend to you to begin with because you gave them your express, explicit consent.

Whether that payment comes in the form of forced seizure of assets at the point of a gun, or imprisonment and a period of involuntary servitude, is purely irrelevant. You agreed to the terms when you took on the loan.

At the very least, other people should be strongly encouraged not to deal with you, and treat you like a pariah until your debt is finally paid.

>>134651224
Kek

>>134647344
>>134647344
>>134647344
>>134647344
GAS GAS GAS

>>134653061
>dont like reddit spacing? dont read the posts

>>134652655

As I said earlier, we're at the early point. This is the beginning. We're finally discussing the problem and doing so in a public forum.
That's a vitally important first step. We should be doing everything in our power to normalize and encourage this.

Once this happens, we can begin discussing possible practical solutions. This is an important step toward cultural maturation.

>>134653206

If you want to skip reading my posts because you're functionally illiterate, be my guest. I'm not talking to you.

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Dont like the true masterrace? COPE faggot.

>>134653470
>has to resort to ad-hominem to attract attention to him
Here's a (you), (you) need it more that I do.

>>134652784
Who gets to define degenerate behavior? Certainly not the current clown show of the US administration.

>>134652784
Nothing wrong with libertarianism, it's just retards that misrepresent ideology.

>>134653616

You're funny. I like you. You can come over to my house and fuck my sister. Just roll her in flour and go for the wet spot.

>>134647201
Children dont have rights,they are just property,is totally legit to fuck them

>>134646258
>Dont get gay married.
Gay marriage leads to an acceptance of degeneracy and decay that end up affecting my life. Ban it.
>Dont do drugs.
People becoming addicts leads to an acceptance of degeneracy and decay that end up affecting my life. Ban it.
>Dont drink alcohol
Drunks end up abusing themselves or their family or at worst killing someone and leads to an acceptance of degeneracy and decay that end up affecting my life. Ban it.
>Dont eat GMOs
GMOs are the end result of sinister corporate efforts to line their pockets that fucks up the natural order and leads to an acceptance of degeneracy and decay that end up affecting my life. Ban it.
>Dont eat Fast Food
Fast food promotes a life of unchecked wanton gluttony and leads to an acceptance of degeneracy and decay that end up affecting my life. Ban it.
>Dont drink raw milk
Raw milk is a liberal plot against hygienic pasteurization and leads to an acceptance of degeneracy and decay that end up affecting my life. Ban it.
>Dont smoke cigarettes
Cigarettes are an addictive and deadly product that serves no actual purpose other than leading to an acceptance of degeneracy and decay that end up affecting my life. Ban it.
>Don't shop at wal-mart
Walmart is a soulless corporation that is singularly dedicated to destroying the fabric of small towns where the community had to rely on each other's business instead of a single store sucking all of the revenue out of a community leading to an acceptance of degeneracy and decay that end up affecting my life. Ban it.
>Dont watch porn
Do I even have to say it?
>Dont wear baggy pants
Baggy pants are an indicator of a person that has never worked an honest trade a day in their life and allowing it to continue supports an acceptance of degeneracy and decay that end up affecting my life. Ban it.

I don't want to take away other peoples rights so long as they don't want to take away my right to live as a normal, healthy, upstanding citizen of these United States of America

>>134649032
Strawmen aren't legitimate points

>>134654034

Are you me?

>>134654034
You are a literal retard.
How does it feel that 99,9999% of your nation doesn't conform to your views and doesn't give a shit about what you think

>>134646258
>Don't like X? Don't Y
It's not that simple. Homosexuality, for instance, is a gateway for more degeneracy. Just letting people do whatever they want would lead to the faggots eventually forcing their faggy views upon others and even try to make people fuck faggots or prison. The foundations of that "fuck faggots or prison" push are already laid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5GYlZKfBmI
First, they guilt-trip/shame/harass people into fucking trannies, then move towards making laws forcing people to fuck trannies.

Once you open the floodgates to any degeneracy, it all goes downhill from there. You need that firm hand to keep those gates closed, and that hand is authoritarianism. Besides, if you just let degenerates do what they want, they eventually go authoritarian on you and force you to become like them or be punished. Best to prevent the degenerates from doing that by being the authoritarian and keeping them in check. There must always be an authoritarian.

>>134654546
What happens when no one is qualified to be the authority? The orange clown certainly isn't. I am doing what I want to do. Fuck off if you don't like it.

>>134654546

Exactly.

When fags insisted on coming out of the closet, we should have told them no, and that SHOULD have been the end of it. If they persisted, smash them flat. Hard.

We're now at the point where cleaning society is going to be godawful painful, because we let social libs set our policy and control the discussion for decades.

>>134655020
>no one is qualified to be the authority
That's the beauty of authoritarianism. Many are usually not qualified, but you don't have a choice after they're installed themselves. The only choice you have is who will be installed. So /pol/ can pick right-wing people to take over so at least policies enforced by them would be to /pol/'s best interests. And "qualification" is subjective. Commies would disqualify someone qualified if they're not a commie like them.

>The orange clown certainly isn't.
The fact that you seem mad that the "orange clown" won proves that he just might be "qualified" enough.

>I am doing what I want to do.
If it starts affecting me or will affect me in the long run, NO YOU FUCKING WON'T. My A2 will see to that.

>Fuck off if you don't like it.
No. I. WILL. NOT.

>>134655020

The reason why there are so few qualified to lead (the distinction here is important, you cannot have leadership without authority and leadership is what is required in our society) is due to the cultural atmosphere that has developed in our society, in large part due to media and educational institutions. You cannot simultaneously lament the lack of leadership while also advocating that people should not have the authority to change the situation.

>still believing the "rights" meme

>Don’t like necrophilia? Don’t fuck corpses.

>>134646258
>BAKE THE CAKE YOU BIGOT
>BAN GUNS
>HATE SPEECH REEEEE

>>134655820
You will not stop me from doing as I please. You are welcome to go fuck yourself if you believe that you can. I think I will go smoke a joint and fuck a random chick in your honor. If she gets pregnant, I will buy abortion pills online.

>>134656469
>It's a slave thinks his servitude to his whims is freedom episode

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>>134646258

>i want to be a leader
>but i dont want to serve one

>i hate democracy because i can't get what i want
>i love authoritarianism because.. i hope the leader agrees with me..

>>134646258
tyrants lecturing others on taking rights while vandalizing marriage and the society

nono I go with the authoritarians here

>>134656735
I prefer slavery to my own desires rather than slavery to an asswipe dictator.

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>>134646258
MAKE ME

>>134646556

> lets make special exceptions for things I don't like, because I have the authority to do so

You're doing it wrong. But the only way to do it right is to admit the "don't like drugs? don't do drugs" line from your poster is the same as "don't like murder? don't do murder," so just keep on being a crypto-authoritarian, I guess.

>>134653929
>>>134647201
>Children dont have rights,they are just property,is totally legit to fuck them
Lol no one has rights

>>134656857
>I prefer slavery to my own desires
You prefer being slaves to the Jew then. Now it's all making sense.

>>134657803
You bring out the most retarded authoritarian argument. What I choose to put in my body is absolutely none of your business. Murder involves taking life from another person.

>>134658162
If that is what you want to call it, I guess so. Apparently you prefer to worship those who tell you what you are allowed to do.

>>134646258
Don't like murder? Don't murder

>>134646258
Don't like unplanned babies? Pay for it yourself
Don't like working? Pay for it yourself
Don't like guns? Go the fuck away

>>134646412

fpbp, had a sensible giggle

>>134647825
you can have a "traditional household" if you want. Gay marriage doesn't replace that.
You can keep your own family and life as "ethnically pure" as you want. Your rights and freedoms stop when you start denying other people theirs.

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>>134646258
Why are lolbertarians so paranoid ?
Also why does their understanding of human nature reach communist proportions all the time ?

Is it the fedora or their mental illness?
Are they oversocialised ?

>>134647538
Your last point is pie projection.
My individuals means I don't want to live around degenerates and it is in MY interest to have a stable and save comunity around me.

Stop beeing a drone. It is such a clishee of you asians.

>>134649196
Ok you are officially a moron. You could try, sure. But you would not succeed.

>>134654034
this this this

>>134646258
>don't want to participate in "gay weddings"
>use force of law to make you comply
Every private action has public consequences. Error has no rights.

>>134651796

good post

>>134646258
>GMOs are being put in everything tho.

>>134646258
>>134646556

Libertarians are just Jews who are too Jewish to pay taxes.

>>134647285
Nigger, they are bringing in boat loads of niggers.
Are we supposed to have 20 kids each in the current economy to offset the niggers?
It's hard even taking care of more than 2 without becoming a gibs recipient.

>>134661727
Trying to outbreed other races is just assuring the destruction of all. The attitude "If I can't have our country exactly the way I want it, burn it all down" is too common. It seems to be the mantra of the religious right.

>>134647285
>be me
>live in ancapistan
>cant leave my house without paying the road toll
>Have to pay for my oxygen intake, some dude just bought all the air space
>see 5 year old children doing heroin
>see some dudes running over puppies for fun
>some dude is burning rubber and pushing smoke into the neighborhood with huge fans
>another guy bought nukes for fun

guess I should just ignore all of this

>>134646258
>Stop
t. authoritarian

>>134646556
>Pedotarianism
Kek.

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>>134647360
This is not the job of the government to fix.
This is the role of the "civil society"

>>134662183
>some dude is burning rubber and pushing smoke into the neighborhood with huge fans
classic NAP breach you can kill him,
> initiating or threatening the use of any and all forcible interference with an individual or individual's property

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>>134649900
Or, you could not buy from businesses that pollute air and dump chemical waste?
Who pollutes air and dumps chemical waste for fun? It's businesses that do it, and if you don't like what they are doing you can boycott them and convince others to do so.

>>134646258
>Don't drink alchohol
>Don't do drugs
Wow that is so going to help when a drugged or drunk driver wipes out half a family-again .
Thanks anon.

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>>134650842
Who gets to decide what is and isn't damaging to society?

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>>134650914
>Growing GMO crops takes away everyone's right to have GMO free food
How?

>>134665580
Are you arguing it is somehow worse that some drunk driver wiping out half a family is worse than a sober driver?
If not, your complaint isn't about the person doing drugs or drinking alcohol, but the person wiping out half a family.

>>134652380
Again, how is this the government's job to enforce?
You may think alcohol and porn are reprehensible, but somehow you think that using the threat of force and death to stop other people from doing these things is okay.

>>134652784
Who defines what is and isn't degenerate behavior then?

>>134654546
There's no legitimate authority to define what is and isn't degenerate behaviour.

>>134655820
>That's the beauty of authoritarianism. Many are usually not qualified, but you don't have a choice after they're installed themselves
Why are you arguing this like it is a good thing?

>>134647344
Children do not have the mental capacity to consent. They can't sign a contract and be legally obligated to follow it

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Don't tell me what to do you fucking loser, I'll punch you in the heart

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>>134666422
Why is there no test on the mental capacity then?
Plenty of 16 year olds are smarter than 21+ year old aboriginals, especially if the latter is huffing gasoline. But the latter is able to sign a contract and the former isn't.

>>134665824
>Are you arguing it is somehow worse that some drunk driver wiping out half a family is worse than a sober driver?
No, I'm arguing that simply not doing what I don't like won't create a perfect society.

And the NAP won't bring back half of a family that will forever be missed by the other half.

t. Do the fuck what you want if it doesn't violate another's rights.

>>134666633
Well obviously there is a grey area that is why each geographical area choose their age of consent I think 16 is the sweet spot for age of consent. Still parents should be the ones to decide when is it appropriate for their children to be sexualy active.

>>134666633
>Why is there no test on the mental capacity then?
Bc nobody has invented a objective one yet.
Why haven't there been people on Mars yet ?

>>134646258
>larp flag
>beeing completly retarded

as usual

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>>134646258
ancap thread? ancap thread.

>>134646258

We live in a society, so in general it helps to be concerned about it. Eg. It costs society one way or another to treat the diseases caused by cigarettes.

>>134646258
Don't like not having roads? Build your own roads.
Don't like getting raped? Try being the rapist for once.
Don't like getting murdered? Try murdering that faggot first.
Don't like being enslaved to your corporate city-state? Tough shit, faggot.

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>>134666991

>>134646412
doesn't like murder...
what is the military ?

what are you a pacifist ?

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>>134666715
>And the NAP won't bring back half of a family that will forever be missed by the other half.
What system does?

>>134646743
says the slave...

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>>134667611
Some do.

>>134646855
the right the drowning man has is the same right the drowning man has always had...

to drown.

>>134667788
Let's switch to that system then.
Wtf I hate libertarianism now

>>134646910
no they aren't
nor will i allow them to.

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>>134646258
We're arguing on the forced promotion of certain things that attract the masses.

How do you explain the rise of gay marriage, transsexualism, laziness, hip hop culture and the such? it's almost like it's not in every movie in each street sign on every video game in all corners and every thought bubble.
I could just turn my back and not care but then you're looking at a complete black pill scenario where everything will evidently dissolve into a post civilized post purity and post rationalist civilization of utter failure and irrational irrecoverable degeneracy.

i don't drink but drunks still impact me.

hurrrrrrr

Too much liberty (code word for degeneracy when it comes to libertarian) produce mediocre obese people.

I want the better for my white fellow.

>>134646258
>dont like being stabbed to death by muslims?
dont be islamophobic

>>134646924
whats wrong adolf ?

still hung about how you lost

you might choose to be another mans slave
but few others will

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You're thinking about this the wrong way.

>If you don't like something you believe is wrong, degenerate, or immoral, just don't do it! Stop telling other people not to do it because that's in violation of their rights!

No it isn't. If you believe something is immoral, you have the right to persuade as many people as you want not to take part in it, as long as it's not at gunpoint or some crazy shit like that. Your picture essentially says that social activism is wrong, but social activism is how the good of society is achieved in the first place.

Quit fuckin' making us look bad.

>>134668115
>Playing sci fi game
>Suddenly ghetto hood rat "music" starts blasting over the audio when an action sequence starts

>>134646989
don't like living as another man dog...

And i don't know why you have so much anarchist, in Switzerland anarcho-capitalist/communist/what you want-ist are see as the degenerate they are and we all hate them.

>>134647063
liberty is destroying our civilization is it ?

>>134668191
That's not the roll of government
That's the roll of civil society

>>134646258
>don't like living in a degenerate country? tough shit!

>>134647179
a nazi who doesn't like force...

>>134668607
Who has the authority to decide what is and isn't degeneracy?
It's not the job of government to punish people for living in ways that you don't like.

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>>134647414
>humans are fallible, selfish and frequently make mistakes
>the way to get around this is to give a small group of humans supreme authority over all the others

>>134646258
I find it sad that people need to dictate the behavior of others. A leader sets an example. Show us how happy you are living (((pure))) and maybe we will follow that example.

>>134651077
>that gif
I honestly expected the guy to be russian for some reason.

>>134668606
I don't made a separation so clear between civil society and governement, governement is a tool not an end.

>>134667758
Are you really a slave if you would have done it without being told to do it?

>>134646258
I agree with all of these, but I would make one qualification. Drugs can have negative externalities (for example cigarettes and second-hand smoke) and therefore should be taxed and/or regulated. I wouldn't ban them altogether, but I would be comfortable with banning their use in public spaces. So you could still use them in your home, businesses that allow it, etc.

>>134647278
intellectual nazism

"kys", another pacifist perhaps?

>>134668783

People are often more rational in an objective position. Eg. It's hard to be careful with your money, but it's easy to say that saving is good.

>>134648859
>your choice

Another fallacy. Do or die is not a choice, its an ultimatum that relies on the fact that most people don't want to die/suffer.

>>134668783
Sounds like something a cuck says before Tyrone exercises supreme authority.

>>134647317
authoritarianism is the greatest LARP of all !

>>134646258
You have to be in the presence of Communists. How the fuck do you think we got where we are?

>>134668732
Stfu you dumbass leaf just look at our country and you will see that letting people live how they want was a mistake

>>134650842
Set an example. If you show us how happy you are we will follow that example.

>>134647322
the church and state are full of pedos...

authoritarianism enables pedoism more than liberty

>>134649343
DON'T LIKE CANCER? Don't be cancer.

It's intolerant not to let malign growths grow on you anon.

>>134647360
if you cared you'd legalize so they can get help

>>134659044
How about nation wide "traditional values" ? There are things that are ok and not ok, regardless if they are harmless or not.
You don't deserve any special rights just because you have a different sexual preferance, different non normative gender etc. They all just seem so arbitrary.
There are many groups, minorities, which are also endangered, and discriminated against, that doesn't mean they should get any and all rights in the world.

>>134646258
Some of those, like WalMart and porn are going to be forcibly removed.
Dress codes for public as well.

You'll like it though, you just don't realize the grip degeneracy has on you.

>>134647414
humans are a plowhorse on my farm...

im not your horse or your dog.

>>134668221
>few others will
Been outside lately Crocodile Dundee?

>>134669268

I somewhat doubt that this works in practice.

>>134648864
spoken like a true cuckservative.

>>134647538
so if the state lobotomized you it woul be okay because you as an individual doesn't really matter

really ?

>>134649478
nice strawman

Fuck you, niggers.

>>134647603
liberty is a right

>>134649487
>The fags should also die and shouldn't get supported by tax payers because they "married".

What do you mean by this? How does getting gay married have anything to do with leaching tax dollars?

>>134647614
the proud defender of his own servitude

>>134650842
>drugs&alcohol damaging to society
2 things which gets most people through their shity modern day. I know that it is hard to grasp it as a german, but normal human beings like to think that there is more to life than competition and infinite work.

>>134647603
Pursuit of of happiness.

>>134670020
>How does getting gay married have anything to do with leaching tax dollars?

He's likely referring to different tax rights for married couples filing jointly.

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>>134670270
>different tax rates

>>134647615
the problem isn't the status quo...

a recipe to do nothing ever again

>>134670185
Competition is they only thing that gives life meaning. Take that away and society fails.

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>>134646258
The rules of a prosperous and orderly society need to be reflected onto every individual.

Faggotry is the destruction of the nuclear family, and should be treated as a harmful idea that will negatively affect the prosperity of society.

Limitations can be prosperous.

>>134646258
>Don't like authoritarianism?
>Don't be authoritarian :^)

>>134670270
That isn't somebody else's tax.

>>134662183
be a good citizen and mind your own business or else

>>134670319
In my experience the difference is very small. The major benefit to marriage is property and custody of children in the event of death.

>>134647344

All ancaps are just closet pedophiles. Ancapism is just nambla by another name

>>134669257
Compare American and Canadian crime rates

>>134670505
I like how you blame a minority for the failures of the welfare state.

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>>134646258
what makes you think you have "rights" like pic related? society effects everyone involved. so as a tax paying citizen I abso-fuckin'-lutely have the right to call you out on your nation breaking degeneracy.

>>134646258
Don't like Nazis? Leave /pol/

Simple libertarian-minded advice for the lolberg fags

>>134662183
So many strawmen so little time.

>>134669024
But you also don't care when you're spending someone else's money.

>>134665630
muh (((holy book)))

>>134646556
>life, liberty, property

Prove that those are human rights without an appeal to authority

Alternatively, just admit that you're sixteen and have never read a book on philosophy that wasn't written by (((Ayn Rand)))

>>134669324
Who defines what is and isn't cancer?

>>134646258
Your "rights" are violating my rights for a safe society

>>134665690
The pollen has a tendency to spread to nearby fields.

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>>134646258
Stop being lolbertarian.

>>134670395
That's not true for a lot of people. Talk to parents, or at your local church with people and you'll see what you're saying isn't true

>>134670505
Again, who has the authority to dictate what rules should be imposed on the people?

>>134670935
No. I'm simply explaining why it shouldn't be accepted.

Society needs to have a family structure that will produce good children. A gay family cannot produce children.

>>134646258
Don't like starving?

Get a job.

>>134665824
DUI is illegal because it has potential to harm others.

The state is supposed to protect us from others not ourselves.

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>>134646556
(YOU)

>>134670963
You have the right to call him out sure, but not to step on his freedoms.
You are not the supreme authority on what is and isn't "nation breaking degeneracy"

>>134669277
>If you legalize pedophilia, fewer people will do it

Lolbertarians actually believe this

>>134671156
What does the bible say about doing heroine, getting abortions, or fast food?

>>134671384
The people of the nation.

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>>134646556
>tries to "don't tread on me"
>ends up getting caught like the dirty snake he actually is

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>>134646258

Don't like being shot? Don't stand in front of my gun.

>>134670395
nope, each individual has own meaning to life. only thing competition leads to is corruption, envy and despair. you can be productive without competition, honestly i dont get the idea of people seing other people as mile stones, just do what ever you do and hope for the best, that s how natural selection works

>>134671547
Couldn't the same justification be used by communists?
The people of the nation could decide to kill Rich people and take their stuff, and impose communist regimes

>>134646258
I don't like eating food.

>>134671466
>dont like rights taken away, dont take others

his picture doesn't imply removing freedoms...it says if you dont like it dont do it. no fucking shit im not going to do it...but telling you its "nation breaking degeneracy" is absolutely my right. more of a "right" than anything listed in OP's faggy picture.

>>134652637
How is making about about the not needing the state to protect us from ourselves retarded? I guess you don't need freedom. Allow me to dictate what religion you should follow and maybe you will realize why we don't want the state making these kinds of decisions.

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>>134671290
There's still non-GMO Crops out there.
Unless of course you mean crops which are "natural", and weren't selectively bred by humans, in which case you're right there isn't any "Non genetically modified" crops

>>134671848
oops
>How is making a post about not needing the state to protect us from ourselves retarded?

>>134671848
we do need the state to a certain extent though...my god look what gommunism is doing to the west...imagine if we didn't have any kind of state protection.

>>134646743
yet you'll still maintain:
>i don't like guns, we should take them away

>>134671407
But, there's no evidence the amount of deaths prevented by DUIs has been caused by the law changes, as opposed to cultural changes.
Which again goes back to the question of whether or not the role of stopping people from driving drunk (not murdering people with their car) is the role of the government, or the civil society.

>>134671930
One of the things GMO crops are doing is putting pesticide in the genes of the crop. We really don't know what the long term effects of consuming that will be. People go for organic because they are hoping to avoid toxins. GMO pollen can fuck that up.

>>134671979
Yes to protect us from others. I don't see how keeping stupid people from killing themselves is benefiting society.

>>134671683
They have in the past. And they failed.

It's not prosperous to do redistribute wealth.

However, there are rules we have followed and they have giving rise to civilization.

We do not murder, or rape. Marriage is a rite for building a family.

>>134646556
some of those degenerate choices have an impact on society as a whole. Drinking, using drugs, gay marriage and the right to adopt kids, porn and many other of these so called individual "choices" lead do unfulfilling lives, breaking up marriages and families, which has a direct correlation with violent crimes and overall disrespect for others.

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>>134646258
All these faggot fascists virtue signalling and acting moral lmao

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>>134646258
Saffers need our help goys

>>134671164
>>134671164
>>134671164

>>134672047
This

>>134646258

People need guidance in life, and no man is an island.

>>134646258

You forgot:

>don't like your children doing these things and undoing all the hard work into raising them right, and instead chosing a life of hedonism and the ending your family line... don't have children and end your family line

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>>134646258
DON'T WANT TO GET RAPED? DON'T DRESS LIKE A WHORE.

>>134648623
>Be forced to use your religious institution to do an act that is against your religion.
>Not taking away rights
come on now

>>134673245
You don't get to decide how your children live. Once they turn 18 it's their life not yours.

>>134673631

that's the point the marxists are teaching them to be faggots long before that bro

Don't like smoking in restaurants; don't smoke in redtaurants!

This is a stupid fucking analogy and was debunked long ago.

The odiousness and unavoidability of many actions aren't quarantined.

Like drunk drivers killing people or drug addicts stealing. You have to stop the source

Don't like Nazis? Don't be a Nazi!

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>>134673925
What's the cause of drunk driving and how does making it illegal "stop the source"?

>>134674493

ban automobiles