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IDENTITARIAN MOVEMENT GENERAL

What are the Identitarians?
The Identitarian Movement is a European Youth Movement in the History of the French Nouvelle Droite and the German Conservative Revolution. It rejects all (Neo)Liberal, Communist and Old-Right thought and replaces them with a profound critique of Modernism which seeks a Europe - and subsequently a world - of homogeneous, independent nation states. After several years of consolidation, the movement has now reached a degree of organization and size which allows them to bring their demands to a broader audience through spectacular direct action.

###BREAKING###
The C-STAR has successfully made it through the Suez Canal and is now on her way to Catania, ready to start her mission to #DefendEurope. Rumors say, a thousand leftist hearts shattered, when she finally got her clearance.

Support the mission to Defend Europe here: http://defendeurope.net/


GET INVOLVED:

COUNTRIES WITH ACTIVE CHAPTERS OF THE IDENTITARIAN MOVEMENT:
France: facebook/GenerationIdentitaire/
Germany: facebook/identitaere/
Austria: facebook/identitaeroesterreich/
Italy: facebook/GenerazioneIdentitaria/

NEW: Identitarians on the British Isles: facebook/IdentitarianMovement/
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>>134641822
Nice Im glad they went thru the canal

happy hunting
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>>134641822
Are they there yet, with their boat? How many pirate ships did they sink already? Two?
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>>134641822
>of homogeneous, independent nation states
what's your opinion on south africa?
should the europeans return or stay as they are
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>>134641947
They should return to Europe pretty much.
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when will they start sinking niggers?
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Identitarian Demonstration in Berlin earlier this year.
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I always get so happy when I see these generals. Keep fighting the good fight.
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>>134641822

>The C-STAR has successfully made it through the Suez Canal and is now on her way to Catania, ready to start her mission to #DefendEurope.
>Rumors say, a thousand leftist hearts shattered, when she finally got her clearance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whytAReStUQ
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German Identitarians occupying the Brandenburg Gate.

The large banner reads: Secure Borders - Secure Future
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>>134641822
This is good news, they are finally making progress lets hope the mission is successful!
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The Irish chapter is also currently getting started.
So if there are any Irish bros who want to actively defend their homeland - drop them a message and get involved.
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Godspeed and be careful brothers!
UNITY = Survival
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Good luck brothers.
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>>134643375
I think it's save to say that even if the Identitarians manage to completely tank their organization right now, it has been the first nationalist youth movement which managed to actually bring together over half a dozen different nations to progressively and constructively work together.
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>>134641822
Thanks for the thread brother, are you an activist yourself?
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>>134641947
As an identitarian I am conflicted, they are clearly Europeans so they should really come back to their homeland but then again when the boers conquered those lands, nobody lived there.
But this isnt really the issue, most whites remaining in SA can not afford to leave and need our help to prevent a possible genocide.
Only love and prayers for our afrikaaner brothers.
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>>134643290
The irish chapter is unofficial, they are not officially part of the movement yet as far as i know.
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>>134645459
Ah, ok. They looked fairly official.
I will refrain from advertising them until further notice
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>>134645588
They're just a bunch of guys who started on their own like the Scottish or Spanish ones. We don't know who they are, we didnt endorse them and they may be damaging to our image.
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>>134641822
>The C-STAR has successfully made it through the Suez Canal and is now on her way to Catania, ready to start her mission to #DefendEurope.

But what do you plan on actually doing there? It's not like you can actually shoot down refugee boats, you'd be shut down and labeled terrorists the second you tried.
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>>134645588
There's even a """"""""""spanish""""""""""" chapter taking interviews pretendign to be an official branch, these things can be very dangerous for our movement. I tried contacting them on twitter but got ignored twice.
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>>134645764

the spanish one is a meme, pretty sure it was just adopted it by their own account
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>>134645739
I assume they are working with the coastguards, plus taking videos of those humanitarian cunts actually ferrying around the afrikangz could help spark some shit
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>>134645739
Pic related + Showing to get them to Italy, like NGOs do, is not the only way. Showing NGOs actively help or even communicate with smugglers. Showing something can actually be done and it's not a fatality. And spreading our ethnonationalist anti immigration anti islam message in the MSM.
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>>134645739
actively blocking until they sink their own boat = no crime
And apparently watching people drown without helping isn't a crime at all either. Hell, record the shit and upload it, you still won't be charged.
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>>134645996
i tried contacting them in english and spanish but they ignored me.
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>>134641822
Red white red.
The work I dread.

What classification of vessel is that?
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>>134646034
>taking videos of those humanitarian cunts actually ferrying around the afrikangz could help spark some shit

Yes it would hopefully spark further support for the humanitarian efforts in the Mediterranean. These "humanitarian cunts" (interesting choice of words btw) save lives on a daily basis, they are heroes and do deserve more recognition.
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>>134646058
>And apparently watching people drown without helping isn't a crime at all either. Hell, record the shit and upload it, you still won't be charged.

Yes it's a crime. But the "migrants" on those boats won't sink it themselves, they won't even understand what's going on. We'll just have to call Libyan coastguards (we're in touch with them) so they can pick illegals up and get them back to Africa.
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>>134646046
>This is what (((french journalists))) call another shoah
I was lmaoing the other day when I read an interview of some (((lawyer))) calling the initiative literally hitler because IG would be murdering them. What's funny is that his definition of murder is bringing back migrants to where they came from like they should fucking do
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>>134646219
I cannot wait for the courts to sue your crook asses, traitors
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>>134646204
This is her
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>>134641822
That ship is going to get sued for human trafficking.
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Thank you and everyone with you.
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>>134646306
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>>134645710
>>134645764
I know these problems from when I was still active in the organization of our Identitarian movement myself.

As much advantages as the internet brings to the cause, the biggest downside is still retards who think that it is okay to simply hijack the imagery of a group and use it for their own goals.
It is purely a right wing problem as well. Nobody would even think about starting their own Greenpeace group without at least contacting someone else as well.
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>>134646354
No legal basis for such a thing.

>>134646399
Thanks

>>134646456
Why aren't you active anymore?
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>>134646046
Those are some good ideas. Dealing with actual authorities is the way to go.

>>134646034
This is a bad idea. In the eyes of the general populace, the africans are still victims and the humanitarians are selfless heroes. You'd be shooting yourself in the foot.
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Why did they copy the overwatch logo though
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>>134646517
>Why aren't you active anymore?

I served my cause and there is too much stuff going on in my life to keep dedicating a significant portion of my time to the Identitarians.
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>>134646529
Not if you see them working hand in hand with the smugglers, and it would seriously hurt the "we are saving lives" narrative. Not to mention that it would help in the legal cases against them, jndeniable evidences would be really great
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My body is ready.
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Will identitarian groups ever accept American volunteers?
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>>134646626
Low quality bait
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>>134646718
They already do. What the Identitarians won't accept though, is American Branches, as that simply makes no sense.
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>>134641947
>>134642042
South Africa was built by Whites and settled by whites, with the exception of the Khoisan people who were oppressed by the Bantu peoples (which make up most of the niggers running SA today).
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>>134646626
I hope this is bait, but the identitarian mouvement is active since 2003.

The Lambda was the first letter of Lacedaemonia, the land of Spartans. They fought with some other Greeks as 1.500 against the Persian emperor, Xerxes, and his army of 50.000. They braved the religious interdiction of not going to war during the sacred olympian times, met the invaders and held the Thermopylae pass for 3 days, giving enough time to the rest of Greece's cities so they could unite and ultimately repell the invasion. Spartans had a Lambda symbol on their shields. We use it as we believe it's now our time to make some sacrifices, money, friends, maybe a carreer or reputation, but all of this is nothing when compared to what we have to save: our land and our people.

>>134646640
Sure, I hope what you have to face is nothing to bad

>>134646718
What do you mean by volunteering? If you ever came to Europe you could jooin, as long as you're white.
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>>134646718
>>134646768
I'm pretty sure there is an American chapter. There was a thread about it a few days ago.
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>>134646768
Excellent, never knew that. Thank you, and best of luck!
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>>134646626
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>>134646832
There's none. There was a scam built with our name and logo, but we managed to have it closed.

But there's a similar mouvement, inspired by us, called Identity Europa and led by Nathan Damigo. They're good guys.
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>>134646827
>>134646754
>>134646877
wait so blizzard are white supremacists?
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>>134646754
I would rather call it a running gag. And why not hijack it for your own purposes [spoiler];^)[/spoiler]
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>>134641822

Sink them all

Please. Sink them all
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>>134646626
This
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>>134646779
The USA was built by whites as well. But that doesn't that mean they aren't illegitimate invaders.

>>134646832
Back in my day, a few Americans tried to hop on the Bandwagon and created a website clustered with Identitarian heraldry begging for donations.
The French - which are exceptionally sensitive to that kind of stuff - immediately closed it down.

>>134646827
Thank you, I'm coping. And I still support the Identitarians where I can, as is evident from this thread I hope.
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>>134646997
They better be careful when helping those migrants. PR nightmare:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43xfDxgCt-M
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>>134646933
shhh
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>>134647091
is that picture suggesting we should up our game and start drowning boat people?
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>>134647163
Yes. Stop slacking
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>>134646933
Also checked
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>>134647163
It is suggesting that Europes "refugee" policy kills more people than it saves.
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>>134647163
>See migrant boat
>Guide it 'safely' to shark area
>???
>Profit
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>>134647133

Don't film. Sink the vessels. Let 'em drown.

This is far more important to Europe than WW2 for the Germans.
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>>134647299
They will be surveilled 24/7
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>>134647299
I'm glad that you have no say in this mission.
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>>134647361

So, they have a government escort? If so, then the government should be stopping the boats if they have the resources to watch private people.

You mean NGO? Sink them.
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based farmers
https://www.rt.com/viral/397243-anti-migrant-field-art/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=RSS

>A large-scale piece of crop art intended to send a powerful message on the migrant crisis has been ploughed over on a field near Verona, Italy.
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>>134647557
Absolutely based.

As an Italian, can you enlighten me as to why you would join the Identitarians over CasaPound?
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>>134647535
Why don't you sink them internet tough guy?
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>>134647449

Sorry, but the time is past to film and call the people that will just rescue them.

You need to kill them. Kill them and they won't come.

They only come because the risk versus reward is far in their favor.

Your governments are helping them.

When the state fails, you can then call on vigilante justice.
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>>134641822

Godspeed anons
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>>134647702
Then how about chartering your own boat and sink some migrant ships, faggot?
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>>134647651
CasaPound is mostly stuck in the past, focuses too much on fascist values instead of being open to people of any ideology that share the same goal, saving europe from the invasion, stopping the great replacement.
I Respect their passion and I have nothign against them but they are borderline irrelevant, we probably got more press coverate in the last month than in their entire existance. Go figure why I chose Generazione Identitaria.
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>>134647682

Because my government intercepts the boats and turns them back.

If my government didn't, then yes, your point would be valid.
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>>134647702
If you sink one boat with or without deaths, each and every government will label you as terrorist group, instantly killing the movement, because no one wants to take part in a group known as terrorists.
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>>134646933
Of course they are. How new are you?
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>>134647783

See >>134647852

If I was a European, yes, I would be doing such with my own offshore fishing vessel.
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>>134647834
From the limited reports we receive here in Germany it seems that CasaPound is a huge group with a membership of several thousand of people.
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>>134647956
>If I was a European, yes, I would be doing such with my own offshore fishing vessel.

Of course you would. You're a big boy.
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>>134647979
Their actions and tactics are not working, if they were working they would have some presence in the national scene but they dont, trust me.
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>>134647875

And you get coverage and the governments now have to do something.

If citizens stand up and say we won't stand for foreign invaders and do something, then they'll be forced to stop them coming.

Do you think the IRA got what they did by not doing anything?
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We need a Greek chapter
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>>134648052

Yes, yes I would.

If you want to kill your country simply because the state isn't calling you up, then by all means let it die.

Nationalism begins with you, not the state.
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>when you don't need to defend already lost countries because you are moving to Switzerland in 2 months
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Reminder that Georges Soros funds Hope not hate, our most vocal opponent.

>>134648408
Why not, are you interested in starting one?
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>>134648184
>Do you think the IRA got what they did by not doing anything?

>he has sympathies for the IRA

You're one giant fucking moron.
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>>134648421
agent provocateur tier argumentation
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>>134647875
>no one wants to take part in a group known as terrorists.
You sure?
It might be a good idea having an extreme group and one more moderate which are not officially together, but share some common ideas.

As the strayan says right >>134648421
, coverage for an idea is coverage and having somebody like the RAF will ultimately just help the moderates who try to hijack the institutions too know better how to sell normies their ideas. And well, some death enemies are not really bad, less real opposition I would say.
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hey belgibro

My parents are from two different European countries? Will I be gassed once you take over
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>>134648442
found the traitor.
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>>134648408
Then start one up. I am sure that you would receive lots of support from the already existing Identitarian chapters.
After all, ancient Greece was the cradle of European civilization.
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Wait I dont get it
Isn't the goal of this thing to shoot down migrants
Isnt it still murder?
Do ppl work in multiple countries? or does the same ship move between countries
Did they even get approval by each countries
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>>134648184
They get coverage now too without losing support. If you're labeled a terrorist because the government said so, you'll lose a lot of your support already. In times like this, with social media all over the place, you need to act smarter, not just brainless violence which leads to nothing. But if you don't do anything illegal, you'll get more sympathy from the majority of people who don't agree with the current migrant policies.
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>>134648853
>Isn't the goal of this thing to shoot down migrants
No.
That's just the wet dreams of some /pol/acks.
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>>134648773
This is bait I guess, but I'll bite anyway. Of course not, first because nobody's getting gassed but remigrated instead, and second because if both your parents are Europeans you are too you moron.
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>>134648421

Why do eurocucks always make fun of individual initiative?

I went to two of Blumpfs rallies. I voted for him, advocated for him to my friends/coworkers and gave money to him and the NRA. If I lived in Europe I'd willingly participate in Identitäre Bewegung or something similar. But these fags are so cucked they literally can't imagine doing anything of their own volition.
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>>134645710
What activities does the Belgian branch do? Are there regular boxing/sports classes or is that just occasional like an excursion? Do you guys do debates and lectures as well among members? Other intellectual activities? Cultural activities? Trying to get a better picture beyond "some dudes in a clubhouse".
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>>134649011
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not bait at all
but will there be any inter-European remigration?

I.e. will you tolerate Polish plumbers in the UK? What if my mom is Polish but my dad is a Scott?
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Warning:

The cultural marxists faked our Twitter account, should be obvious to every /pol/ack, but you never know:


FAKE https://twitter.com/DefendEuropelD

REAL https://twitter.com/DefendEuropeID
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>>134649145
I'd be okay with that desu
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>>134649072
>average american post
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>be fugee scum
>sail your little dinghy into the middle of the med
>see ship approaching
>capsize boat, thrash around in the water, "help me, please, I'm drowning"
>wind changes to reveal the IG flag
>swim effortlessly back to your boat, right, it, "haha, it was just a fun game, ha ha, pls no rescue"
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>>134649145
If you're European, you're European. Don't be a degenerate and you can go wherever you want. Nobody is being deported back to their country if you're not a criminal shitstain.
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>>134641822
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>>134649241
Make sure to report the imposters as well.
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There already is an American "branch" of the Identitarian movement. Identity Evropa is working its way up to becoming the size of the European branches. We are the future of civilization. Join or Die.
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>>134649252

>Government please save me!
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>>134649145
It's up to each country and each people to decide, if a Pole doesn't respect the law, refuses to speak english or to assimilate it should be UK's right to send him back. But if the Pole behaves well and UK actually need workers it couldn't find in the native population, no prob.

>>134649078
The Belgian chapter is still fairly new, and it's a Flemish one, centered around Ghent. I'm not Belgian myself. It's only starting so they still have to find their marks.

What we do overall: regular activism (sticking, leaflets, protests, local campaigns reacting to local issues), sports, intellectual/political formations with conferences, learning how to speak in front of a crowd, a camera, to a journalist, discover, appreciate and promoting your local culture (most people today have no roots and don't realize all the marvels their ancestors have built, created or even eaten) and european culture (folk songs, dances, languages, culinary specialities), and the most important is building a community of people you can trust.
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>>134649660
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>>134649372
Not an chapter of the european Generation Identity, but same spirit and same goal.
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>>134649701
Do you have social media presence?
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>>134649311
> you can go wherever you want
Wait wait wait... are you suggesting that the EU as an idea isn't that bad, arguing for some kind of central institution too regulate smaller units, ultimately (((creating))) a (((European Identity))) too enslave the nations and regions, playing right into the One world One Government scheme? Well have fun Yids, the rope awaits you.
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>>134650010
The Belgian chapter? They have a facebook page, generatie identiteit. It's really new.
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>>134649817
Of course not a chapter, but we are working towards the same goals. We should all try and organize a convention of some sorts in the future.
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>>134650138
Where did anyone say there would be a (((central institution))) regulating anything?

No one needs to create a European Identity, it already exists. The movement only wants to preserve the western values Europe has, without losing them to hordes of migrants with conflicting views on these values. If you don't understand this simple concept, that's your problem.
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>>134650491
Damn, that looks horrible.

Can I drop you a message and help you polish some of the graphics you use? One of the competences I had, was being part of the media design team.
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>>134641822
>What are the Identitarians?
A nice big honeypot run partly by the Mossad?
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>>134650138
Read this >>134649701

>>134650523
I believe Nathan may come over at some point, ask him. But we can't really organize something together yet, because you guyscan talk about everything and we don't have free speech in Europe. We would quickly get portrayed as an "international nazi militia" or whatever. We still received Jared Taylor for a conference in an official event a few years ago.

>>134650711
I'm not with them myself, I'm French and not near Ghent. You can contact them, maybe you already know Bo?
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>>134650138
There is a difference between population replacement between different nations and the healthy exchange which has shaped the European People since basically forever.

In the world envisioned by us, there would be no need for protecting your borders since there would be no large migration patters in the first place.
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>>134650590
define western values, or lets be more specific, European values, and if we are at it, what is with the 3th Generation Invaders, in which I include Italians coming too Germany during the 50's.
>without losing [...] to hordes of migrants with conflicting views on these values
Well that means remigration first and concentration camps later for those who didn't heard the message, and would need armed groups getting rid of the traitors who oppose this, as those invaders of the 3th generation who consider Europe their homeland.

Really as far as I see it, at this point you are larpers with a boat. You really need some strong opposition further right, else this movement will ultimately start to go left centre again and repeat the betrayal the 68er made themselves guilty of.
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>>134649311
what if i am a non-criminal shitskin? can i stay or better yet, join?
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>>134650971
o.k, this sounds kind of o.k
>>134650848
>There is a difference between population replacement between different nations and the healthy exchange which has shaped the European People since basically forever.
Just an ahistoric Faustian could take such a crap serious. Nothing more then 68er ideology with a new paint job
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>>134651242
>Really as far as I see it, at this point you are larpers

>t. We need right wing death squads and concentration camps larper
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>>134650971
>since there would be no large migration patters in the first place.
But how do you stop migration patterns? Ensure that every single region of every country in the world has a well-running economy capable of sustaining a middle class or allowing for upward class mobility?
As long as there are greener pastures, people will want to go there to support their families, be it to a neighbouring town, a distant city, or a far off country.
How do you stop people from wanting a better life for themselves without resorting to either worldwide socialism and forcing economic equality, or an authoritarian Determinist government in every state that restricts both physical and economic movement that indoctrinates people into believing that things are already the way they should be? Because both of those would directly counter the last 400 years of European Enlightenment.
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>>134651435
No.
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>>134651474
You realize our very first manifesto was "a declaration of war against 68er"...? You know nothing about this mouvement and yet you talk shit. Ask questions before drawing conclusions.

>>134651435
No. Why would you stay?
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>>134651503
I'm death serious about that. How will you get the leeches to remigrate by themselves. Flowers and a present bag with some Avocados
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>>134651646
We've published a book about how to enable a massive remigration, with 30 pragmatic political mesures to take as a start.
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>>134651540
That ideal world is probably not achievable anywhere in the near future, but envisioning it helps drawing out plans on how to approach it. The first tiny step, is the Defend Europe mission in the Mediterranean.

>>134651734
And you only published it in French. I need a translation asap.
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>>134651549
>>134651638
racists
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>>134651886
I believe Martin is planning to do one, but he's busy with many things right now. I'll ask him during the summer camp.

>>134652103
*ethnopluralists
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>>134651638
>Declaration of war against the 68er
>Ready to sell out too the same yids your parents did for different shiny stones
you really need some heavy right wing opposition crushing the skulls of your weaklings so you get back on track.
>>134651734
Jewgle doesnt spit out anything, link would be appreciated for the probable lulz
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>>134652103

You have to go back.
That's how it is.
This is our continent.
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>>134652273
https://www.amazon.fr/mesures-pour-politique-didentit%C3%A9-remigration/dp/B06X9184CQ

+ this >>134651503
I'm done talking to you, retard.
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>>134652434
>I'm done talking to you, retard.
>butt hurt detected
Go and whine a bit too your 1/4 Maroccan, 1/4 Belgium, 1/4 spanish and 1/4 japanese butt body
btw, thanks for the link
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>>134652381
b-but i like it here. i don't wanna be sent back to sandniggerland
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>>134652381
>This
Make your country and your people better by actually being there doing shit. Maybe then you won't want to leave so bad,
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>>134652962
see, that's somebody who only can be driven back to the sea by putting a gun against his head. But I wouzld be o.k with you if you would be o.k if we sterilize you and put you in a reservation
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>when all you need to do to stop the migrant crisis is just expose the Jews responsible for it
>but then Jews instead want you to send them money for a boat
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>>134652962
Have you never considered that the reason why sandniggerland is shit is because nobody takes responsibility for making it better?
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>>134653164
i don't want kids anyways but what kind of "reservation"
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>That logo

Is Blizzard /our game dev/?
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>>134653164
>by putting a gun against his head
Wait until they start pointing guns back at you
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>>134653426
i'm part of a very narrow minority who think it's shit and most people want to make it shittier ( more islamist)
you can't change a people that refuse to change so i said fuck them and denounced my identity to them
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>>134653540
Like those in North American for the indians. You know, booze, Casinos, a swimming pool and of course a big fence around it with armed guards shooting anybody who tries to get out and spread his culture and stories.
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>>134646708
That Italian girl is such a cute.
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>>134653957
Traditionnal girls often are
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>>134653807
>t.Achmed
You mean 3th Generation clowns who start running when they get separated from their butt friends and a Pole with crazy eyes and a baton beats their toy Glock out of their hands tacking it and pointing it back at him laughing like a crazy man? Or are we talking about actual invaders who are roughly 1K and will probably blow themselves, some shitskins and liberals up at some point
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>>134653540
Throwing out an idea here... it could be it's own country. Like, a quarter the size of Belgium. With protective walls all around, and 5 year contracts, with mandatory jobs offered by white people to any comers. Pay rates 1/3rd higher than found in some African countries.
All profits coming from Zooland could go in proportions to whatever each Euro nation invests into maintaining the defense of it's borders and maintainance of it's operation. A true vassal to the European continent. A camp, solely for immigrants and refugees to stay.

I could be called... Zooland. A place for Non-Euros in Europe.
Just an idea.
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>>134653820
nah fuck that shit
i worked too hard to come live in the lands of freedom and to escape dogma and oppression
come at me faggots. i will die here if i have to
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You guys should be doing a 24/7 feed or stream.
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>>134641822
>The C-STAR has successfully made it through the Suez Canal and is now on her way to Catania, ready to start her mission to #DefendEurope.

Nice but cut the hashtag shit please, make you sound like an average libtard crusading social justice on twitter
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>>134654371
so you're just gonna stuff me with other sandniggers ? that defeats the whole point of me leaving
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>>134654139
>Or are we talking about actual invaders who are roughly 1K
If they're only 1K, what's the issue?
Do you feel threatened by 1,000 browns in a continent of nearly 700 million whites? Gee, you sure aren't confident in your race, civilisation or nation...
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>>134654887
As I wrote above
> will probably blow themselves, some shitskins and liberals up at some point
they are our greatest allies, and them looking for the house of peace in death just makes them more useful. But in the end the one drop rule holds true, if you are slightly brown you need to get drowned
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>>134654745
social media presence, whether you like it or not, is needed.
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>>134654573
well there we have it again. There is NO WAY around a genocide on European lands. IG are pussies, and no story telling can change this. The next Green party
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>>134641822
>Identitarians on the British Isles
No, fuck off. I hope we collapse.
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>>134641822
Good luck, OP and friends.
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>>134655231
Yeah, I guess we need to use the same weapons as our enemies if we want to win.
I just don't like it.
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>>134647091
What makes USA an illegitimate invasion? Muh peaceful noble savage trope?
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>>134656054
It doesn't matter if the natives were a high culture, noble savages, or crude savages living in mud huts. An Invasion of living space with subsequent displacement of the native population is illegitimate no matter which way you put it.
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>>134646306
>Our media making a bid deal out of it being a 'Finnish research vessel'
>It's sailing under a Djiboutian flag
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>>134656331
It happened countless times in Europe, especially the UK. If you condemn one ethnic conquest's winning side, you condemn them all.

Your real complaint should be that the US let some native americans survive instead of finishing the job properly.
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>>134648442
If europe falls mountain jews will be surrounded si a slower death would come but death,if the rest of europe falls for the migrant shit Switzerland will be forced by europe to open borders etc etc or face closed borders itself and trade embargos,Switzerland won't want to fight a siege against all europe so they'll sell their country for inmediate gains like all leaders have done
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>>134656413
It's because you also have a ship called the C Star, they messed up. But after the first articles in Finland we started receiving some donations, one guy gave 500$, so it's not a bad thing.
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>>134656575
> If you condemn one ethnic conquest's winning side, you condemn them all.

I do. That's pretty much the foundation of Identitarianism.
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>>134656676
Are you ever going to open a chapter in reims?
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>>134656676
The boat in the picture literally has the Finnish coat-of-arms on it and is called Suunta (Direction)
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>>134656790
That means you'll have to split up almost every country in Europe and restore it to the state it was in several thousand years ago, and kill all the mutts that resulted from every major conquest, because they're "illegitimate"
This probably includes yourself.
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>>134656413
sailing under a Mongolian flag actually.
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>>134657137
autism tier
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>>134657212
the nazi flag should have given that away.
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>>134657171
Is this supposed to be a 'Finns are Mongols' joke? Cos if you look at the picture the country is literally there in the info box
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>>134656575
>especially the UK
The UK has only been around for around 200-300 years and Britain hasn't had a foreign soldier step foot on its soil since 1066.
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>>134657383
except william of orange and his lads
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>>134643290
The Irish chapter is a load of idiots. They told the public where they were meeting and the far left predictably showed up

https://twitter.com/WSMIreland/status/888781459502370816

They are a load of idiots and are involved with Identity Ireland, idiots who don't even know what way to fly the Irish flag and who wouldn't press charges when they got attacked by antifa.

I anticipate the day when I can be a part of the Identitarian movement but these aren't real identitarians. I and others were under the impression that they were a honeypot until their failed meeting and even then I'm not so sure they aren't.
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>>134657212
Saying that another country is illegitimate after it has already existed for over 300 years unchallenged is autism tier. What is even your solution to the problem of its existence? Have every one of those with mixed European blood immigrate to the European country of their choice, leaving a ridiculous amount of fertile and resource rich land to be shat on by savages? What about all the infrastructure that's been set into the land? Do Americans have to just haul that on their backs to leave the land clean of all foreign touch?
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>>134657564
>invasion
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>>134657572
they are fake! Unofficial and must be ignored. They do not represent us!
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>>134657637
Holy shit, calm your tits.
I couldn't give less fucks about the existence of the USA. I was only explaining why there will never be an official Identitarian Group there.
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Has anyone a link too a free pdf of
>30 mesures pour une politique d'identité et de remigration
The video of the book presentation was shitty propaganda pandering to the left
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>>134647834
di che città sei scusa? gli identari sono ancora pochissimi, quindi qualche capoluogo, immagino.
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>>134641822
odd are they will get captured, shot in the head and buried in unmarked graves
but best of luck to them
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>>134657984
Why not spend the few Euros and support Europes largest and most promising right wing youth organization?
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>>134658055
>implying the Niggers will not just mutilate their bodies and throw them into the sea
Remember to keep the Ganges clean and stop shitting in the streets
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>>134658093
Donate to our honeypot, goy.
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>>134641822
identitarians are pro-israeli numales
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>>134657678
Everyone I know plans on ignoring them.

What I want to know is when the Identitarian movement is really coming to the British Isles.

It is needed.
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>buyed followers
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>>134654075
Damn, I really need to find a nationalist gf, but there are only basic bitches around me.
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>>134658234
>What I want to know is when the Identitarian movement is really coming to the British Isles.

When someone worthy on the British Isles takes up action and creates an Identitarian chapter. It's not like we have the resources to fly around Europe and force chapters into existence, like a certain Soros chap.
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>>134658093
Because I work 1.5 hour for that, taxes included and could spend the money either on food for a week or 100 .22 bullets, which seems more rational than showing a bunch of Nipsters the money in their asses, from which I currently think that they are repeating what the extreme left did in the late 70's, being the next traitors selling some more generations ahead to the yid
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>>134658541
Stay out of the Isles, faggot.
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>>134658710
>muh national action gonna bring fashy back guis
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>>134649011
>nobody's getting gassed but remigrated instead,
So niggers will be shot for resisting arrest?
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>>134658710
fite me irl not online
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>>134658234
your country doesn't deserve any movement, what it deserves is 5000 horny niggers and 50 nuclear bombs dropped on its major cities and ports
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That would make just about every nation illegitimate if you go back far enough.

Is there a cutoff date when a nation is legitimate and when it is not?
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>>134658790
>implying I support national action
I support National Socialist movements but nowhere did I say I supported NA.
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>>134658846
give address and bring a gun
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>>134658849
Get back to me when your capital city is majority English
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>>134658883
>Is there a cutoff date when a nation is legitimate and when it is not?
1648 for current Europe
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>>134658924
Dirty Irish Monkey, go extinct already.
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>>134658908
Go suck Joe Owens dick then.
>Helllloooo, YESSSSSS
>muh dafties
>muh security services
>muh local politics for local people
>muh dangerous people with dangerous ideas

National Socialism is retarded.
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>>134659029
Who you think it is: Charles Baker

Who it actually is: Muhammad abu hussein
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>>134657118
Oh, maybe it was waving a finnish flag before? It was indeed named the Suunta before being the C Star.

>>134657984
Previously the Poland proxy faggot I guess?.

>>134658193
No.
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Is there a Scottish branch? I've seen Scottish Dawn but they're just Fascists that fuck up on camera.
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>>134659528
no there's no branches in the UK at all. I've heard people are trying to plan them, but nothing official.
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>>134659173
This
Fuck the Brits, send the IRA over to help us gain Independence please.
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>>134645764
>these things can be very dangerous for our movement

It's bound to happen. One needs to be prepared, stay calm and be intelligent.
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>>134659611
>>134645764
basically if they don't go to the summer university they aren't official.
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>>134659604
>IRA

If you have any positive thoughts about those Marxists you're a subhuman
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>>134659401
Oy vey, I have been found out
SHUT IT DOWN, and provide link too a free version
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>>134646306
Nice.
How many people are on board? Does everyone have prior experience (on ships)?
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>>134659722
>IRA
>Marxists
please elaborate
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>>134659966
are you fucking joking?

The original IRA (1916-1920s) were not marxists. The ones during the troubles were.

There have been multiple versions of the IRA
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>>134641822
Any portuguese chapter?
go on bro's for europe, for our nations and white identity
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>>134659966
This anon explains it:
>>134660105

They're the typical cuck left wing nationalists. Sinn Féin, the party that is an IRA front, wants open borders and is pro islam.

There was a shift in the 60s/70s and the old IRA was no more.
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>>134656790
Why do you follow such a pussy ideology?
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>>134659923
The crew is 25 people, some identitarian activists and mostly experimented sailors/ex military.

>>134660138
Not yet, but are you interested in starting one?
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Great work,
I am happy that I gave my money to good hands
Keep it up IB!
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>>134660349
should be added that the ships normal role in east Africa is to provide security against pirates. So the activists will be pretty safe when they are on the sea.
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>>134658290
iktfb
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>>134660301
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inqWWXA469o
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>>134660105
I asked for an elaboration not a leaf being a leaf.
>>134660301
not an elaboration, just a 4/10 macro
FYI This is an elaboration of some kind
>https://archive.is/V8ky5

Fuck, ID propaganda division is shit tier. Literally a bunch of egomaniac ideologist who can't provide basic information, counter the most basic forms of shilling, nor sell their shit to the platform from which they currently try to recruit. Keep lurking goys. I rate your resilience 1/10
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I like what I have seen so far. This movement can go far (if managed correctly).
Is this meant for young people only or can anyone join?
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happening
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>>134660871
Then google it yourself you lazy kraut cunt
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>>134660974
Well you are the one trying to sell your story, I'm just a lazy cunt shitposting in a PR thread
>Kraut
>implying this isn't another proxy
Please, don't embarrass yourself
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>>134660964
Primarily people below the age of 30
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>>134660349
I think we had some but found little info:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfM3434oA_s

they also cooperate with thi nationalists

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mnagRmzYTw
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>>134661116
>sell my story

It's common knowledge that Sinn Féin and the IRA are Marxist, your ignorance is your own fault Kraut
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>>134661235
>Common knowledge
For Irish and island inbreds maybe. For those having an erection for the history of terrorist movements too, but well, that is not even 1% of the world population. If you try to sell something, assume that the one you selling it too is a moron who thinks he knows it all, and be prepared too drop third party sources and play the appeal to authority fallacy, not just shitposting
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>>134660964
The activism part is for under 30yo people, older ones help in other ways (intellectual production, think tanks, organisation, having a good job and many kids).

>>134661168
Whatever Portugal may have as far right groups, I'm positive the "official" identitarian mouvement has no tie with them, but why not? We should try to get in touch with them and see if we share the same views.
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>>134661499
Ignorance is not an excuse
>>
What is the state of the identitarian movement in the UK? At present there is a gap for middle-class people who want to support this type of movement - although I have sympathy with people who follow things like EDL, it's probably fair to say that they're mostly just a bunch of football hooligans.

Secondly, do you see yourselves as an inherently right-wing movement, or is it a single issue movement that can transcend political ideology? I unironically see myself as a left-wing, liberal environmentalist, but I still wholeheartedly reject globalism, accept the need for strong borders, and think western countries should remain homogeneous and independent. Would I be welcomed amongst identitarians?
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So what are the actual steps for founding a local chapter? I can't do it (yet) because I'm on my own 'Long March Through the Institutions', but we could really use a more proper and positive and above all youthful nationalist group up here. The Nordic Resistance Movement, the Finnish Resistance Movement, Finland First and MV-Magazine are all absolute shit, filled with drunks, criminals, idiots and Russians (all three).
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>>134661607
>You have to be a specialist for my piece of crap or you are an ignorant
2/10 ad hominem
How about you tell me about the struggle of the Belgians in 1830 and how Luxembourg was involved in it, and why. And if we are at it, have you ever heard of the Gottschee and their role in the Habsburg Empire.
well here have a shitty wikipedia link
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgian_Revolution
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gottschee


Just stop posting
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Thing is though, there needs to be a fine line in which we don't step over. We don't want to be seen as "far right, fascists". If we want to expand we need to appeal to a broader general public. White nationalism can still be brought up, but to gain a proper following the movement would need to start of relatively moderate to avoid ridicule and scepticism.
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>>134661791
>What is the state of the identitarian movement in the UK?
It's nonexistant

>Would I be welcomed amongst identitarians?
You have more in common with them than you might think. Unfortunately, contrary to the heavy focus on theoretical education, only little theory has been made available in english.
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>>134661989
>you have to be a specialist to know anything about the biggest European insurgency in the past century
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>>134657802

Go ahead and deprive yourself of your strongest allies

Enjoy failure
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>>134661791
liberalism is cancer. The German Identitarian motto is: Heimat, Freiheit, Tradition.

Homeland, Freedom, Tradition. Left-wing is diametrically opposed to tradition.

Also the IM isn't a middle class movement. It's for every ethnic european. Yes its better to have well spoken people and to cordon off idiots but working class people and upper class people are totally welcome as far as I can see.
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>>134662208
Unable to properly respond to common sense, the eternal Kraut
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>>134662066
this is true. Most of it is in French and German.

Arktos translates some stuff, but there's still large body of work that isn't translated.
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>>134662050
This. If people just go full Neo Nazi 14/88 mode, you'll be seen as nothing but yet another fascist group and lose all credibility.
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>>134662066
Yes, from what I've seen of them I think I'd definitely get on well with them. My opposition to right-wing politics is more in terms of economics - I'm opposed to free-market economics, that's all.

>>134662126
I don't think there's any problem with social liberalism, although I don't like any sort of modern day liberalism I have seen today. I just think people should be free to live their life the way they want to (so long as it doesn't impose upon the rights of others) without fear of violence or imprisonment. If you want to be an atheist tranny then that's fine, it's your choice, and you'll deal with the consequences of it. It's not the state's job to interfere in such matters.
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>>134645710
spanish ones? literally who?
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>>134662108
Where exactly is the USA our "strongest ally"?

>>134662268
I would also consider the range of Arktos library... suboptimal.

>>134662620
>My opposition to right-wing politics is more in terms of economics - I'm opposed to free-market economics, that's all.
Volksgemeinschaft ist immer auch Solidargemeinschaft.
A folk is always a community of solidarity as well. Welcome aboard.
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>>134662050
>We don't want to be seen as "far right, fascists".
So "we" need to play the Jew's game by (((his))) own rules like good goys?
>>134662290
What the fuck are you lot politically even? You just sound like a bunch of pro-white liberals. You do understand that the (((replacement))) issue is systemic, right?
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>>134662620
social liberalism will always naturally lead to what you see today. With liberalism everything becomes replaceable and changeable.

It starts with you can easily choose divorce, then you can choose abortions, then you can choose to be gay, then choose to change your gender, and eventually you'll get transhumanism where people can choose to be human or not.

A conservative social stance is better for society. You can tolerate things (don;t kill homosexuals) but the active promotion of it continues the slope downwards.

In my Grandads day (he was a working class labour voter) the left was socially conservative.
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>>134661902
First steps of a chapter are a long preparation. You'd have to meet with some leaders from another country so they can evaluate if you have what it takes. As I said, we can't just take anybody in, so we'd have to trust you. Then, intellectual formation so you have the ideological basics and can speak to newcomers, to journalists, in front of a camera, etc. You would have to come to our summer camp, a one week formation with conferences, activism and sports with your fellow Europeans (last year vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36cfUbDXUbg).

And finally, you will have to be active alone or with a small group of friends until you make it with sticking, handling leaflets, such small things. To give you an example, the Belgium chapter opened in December, and two months ago they were with 25 people in Gent alone. In our biggest cities (Paris, Lyon) we're around 100. Something like 2.000 just in France. So it's small steps, a long way, but very fulfilling.

>>134661791
Ah, you posted in a thread yesterday I think, it faded just I was answering you.

We may agree on some things: rejection of globalism, favoring localism, protecting nature and end the veneration of economic growth..

But in the end, all this belong to the right, it is traditionnalism to the core. Gnothi seauton and Medèn ágan. We are inherently right-wing, because as another Anon said our vision is the exact opposite of the left's one, which is one of infinite progressivism.

If you're a liberal, you just won't fit in. Equality, progress, modernism, all of those are false gods. They all are facets of the march toward an all powerful market ruling over indistinguishable, rootless, formless individuals with no ties to each others.

>>134662677
I don't know, but they're not with us. They claim our name and logo, they do interviews in our name, yet we don't know who they are and they refuse to answer us. They're probably a scam. We've met a group of good guys in the South of Spain, near Jaen
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>>134658290
It took me a while and a lot of searching but I found the needle in the haystack - a hot nationalist qt who is smart and has traditional values. The fact that we are aligned politically makes it all so much better.

I had to bust my ass to get here though - if I was going to attract a girl like that, I needed to be in good shape, stand up straight and be full of confidence. When she sat next to me for the first time and we started talking, it only took a minute or two before we knew what was up.

Keep searching. And keep working on yourself too. It's worth the effort and wait.

We're all gonna make it bros.
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>>134662725
I wish Kubitzchek would translate some of his works, and stuff he's translated, into english.
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>tfw no national identity
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>>134645710
Is there an official UK Identitarian movement? I want to get involved with some activism but there's not a great deal too choose from here.
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>>134641822
I know that identitarians say that they're not for violence, but let's be honest here: If you want to get something done, you'll have to put some people six feet under. That's just the state of things. Take the gibs away from Merkel's pet muzzies, and it will be chimpout supreme. The super wealthy are using immigration to try to maintain their wealth and power. Europe is primed for a conflagration. (So are we, but that's another issue.)

I'm not saying that to imply that Identitarians are violent, just saying that you'll have to become that way, and if that comes to pass, you had better have alternate supply chains in place. Start thinking about food, fiber, lead and medicine, anon, and not just for yourself.
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>>134663167
Wasn't National Action, yall's equivalent?
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>>134660970
saved, its wonderful
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>>134641822
sink the migrants, there are no camera in the sea do want you must do.
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>>134662782
>You do understand that the (((replacement))) issue is systemic, right?

We do. But reducing the systemic aspect to that of a single (((scapegoat))) is not only a incorrect reduction of a complex interdependent system of different actors and interest groups. It also is wrong, and would - both in the short and the long run - do more harm to our group and subsequently the people we are trying to save, than it would do good.

>>134662993
A dream I had for a long time, is teaming up with a few like minded /pol/acks and translate the most important essays and host them somewhere where lots of people could read them, so they could actually understand the identitarianism we talk about in these threads. Right now they pretty much have to resort to reading Evola and similarly autistic authors.
Maybe its due to the American market, but only the bottom of the barrel thinkers are being translated into English.
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>>134662782
The bait is real, but fine, let's do it your way.

Say that suddenly we start going full fascist 'kill all shitskins' mode. Not only would you scare away everyone and their mother until all that's left is some group of Neo Nazi degenerates with 2 brain cells, but you'd be barred from demonstrations, social media, anywhere, unable to get supporters because you'll be seen as just some violent niggers just there to hit people.

But by all means, how would you do it then? And without spiderman shit this time.
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>>134662926
I favour an approach from behavioural economics known as nudge theory. The state can (and should) put in place measures that will lead to happy lives, but the citizens should have the right to reject them and suffer the consequences. So if people want to divorce, be homosexual, be tranny, take drugs, etc, then they can do - and they'll put themselves in a self-imposed state of suffering because of it. Then they can either see the state welcoming them back to a better way of life, or carry on rejecting it and carry on suffering. Abortion is a slightly different issue for me, because that isn't just harming your own life but someone else's (the fetus).
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>>134661902
>drunks, criminals, idiots and Russians (all three).

Fuck you.
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>>134663267
no National Action are just neo-nazis who used GI and ISIS (seriously) as a model for their aesthetic look.
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>>134663218
People are aware of that fact. It's called optics.

That don't posture as explicitly violent or militant group because that gets the attention of authorities.

All euro far-right parties are on extremely thin ice. Their governments have the power to make anything to the right of Merkel an "illegal terrorist group."

Don't want to give them an excuse.
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>>134663167
No, there's, none. We were in contact with 3 guys who were good enough, but they stopped trying after Brexit. We're still looking.
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>>134662954
Yes that's right, I posted yesterday. Do you not think the left can theoretically support traditionalism and nationalism (even though so few of them do)? What about national socialism? Like I said in another post, I describe myself as left-wing pretty much just from an economic point of view, because I think free-market economics just leads to another form of corrupt power grabbing.
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Salute to GI!

You guys are the best right wing movement in the world right now!

America doesn't have a movement and GI's ideology and methods aren't a great fit for America, but Americans can and should support the struggle by donating a bit of cash annually to help support GI operations.
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>>134663408


Say what you want about ISIS' aims, they managed to take over a huge swath of the middle east and have functional and effective cells in pretty much every country with any amount of muslims.


ISIS is an excellent model for a decentralized radical movement.
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>>134663318
it's because the university system is so lefty and authoritarian that there's never been an intellectual development in a broad sense for right-wing material.

The best you will find is someone like Roger Scruton. Anglo-conservatism is so much more based on economics as the primary factor so it is totally defenceless against leftist cultural critique.

I've tried to explain Identitarianism to people through my readings of Kubitschek, Faye and identitarians themselves who I know personally who write on the subject.
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Is R.A.M. identitarian?
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>>134662954
I should also add that although I support liberalism at the state level, at the individual level I support traditionalism and conservatism. I think these are the right choices to make to live a purposeful life and would always argue that, but I would never want the state to impose that lifestyle on people.
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>>134663267
Nah. They're openly National Socialist. Attractive organisation nonetheless - really good aesthetics - but I don't know if I'm down with the whole standing behind a banner that says #HitlerWasRight on it.

I like having a job, and shit.

>>134663517
Hmm. Interesting. How can I ever find out if there are further updates on this? I'd be interested in contributing to a UK movement.

What are the identitarian views on the JQ btw?
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>>134663556
>GI's ideology and methods aren't a great fit for America,

The activism and summer camp seem like a perfect fit for America to me but that's just me looking from the outside in. Maybe if they switched it up a bit and made it more political than identitarian, sort of a right wing conservative thing.
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>>134663882
Aren't they banned now anyway? Sad to see them go. Not a N/S by any means but they had a cool aesthetic and their rallies were usually pretty good.
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>>134663836
Respectable Asshole Munchers?
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>>134663836
Nah they made it clear on twitter they were different from Identity Evropa who are pretty US Identitarian.

Still based as fuck tho. Those guys are sick I really need a uk movement like that or identitarian.
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>>134663524
national socialism didn't really support tradition. It created national myths and venerated them.

If they were traditionalists they would have brought back the Kaiser, restored the aristocracy, given the churches more prominence (instead of making a quasi pagan Hitler worship religion) and much more.

the real traditionalists in Weimar Germany were people like Ernst Junger, Edgar Julius Jung, Carl Schmidt and Martin Heidegger.

some of them joined the nazis thinking they would restore tradition, but they soon realised they weren't going to.
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>>134664032
You had National Action until they were banned
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>>134663438
I understand why they do it. I'm just pointing out that they had better think beyond just how to fight, and had better think back to "An army marches on its stomach." SHTF means that they'll either be cut off from today's supply chains, or those supply chains will break. I know how to grow food without synthetic inputs while building soil, and am willing to point them to some resources if it will help.
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>>134663882
This. Any totally serious political organisation wouldn't be so dumb.
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>>134663696
Yes. I, too, think that the greatest problem of the American Right is it's focus on financial questions and underlying culture of materialism in every aspect. The American Right is a movement of Engineers, while it should be a movement of Philosophers and Artists.
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>>134654573
You wont have to. Just look at the language they are using, look at what they are planning on doing. These fucks are just commie-lite but without ANY violent tendencies. Nothing is going to get done, and no matter what the normies and plebs will just label them terrorists because "oh those poor economic migrants!"

>We report the boats to the coast guard, did we do good, libya-senpai?

>You sure did goy....I mean fellow "activists"! Now run along while we send this boat load to ita....I mean back to africa, and dont forget to not violate the NAP!
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>>134663836
>>134664032
Looks like the US Version of the now banned National Action.
Do you have a facebook link or something?
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>>134663318
It's not reducing a complex problem to a single scapegoat, the Jew is one of the major problems facing Europe, and I know for a fact you twits are well aware of this. If you reject internationalism - you reject the Jew.

That doesn't answer my question: What the fuck are you politically? You reject globalism - fine, but what else? Do you reject democracy? Do you support a Third Option? I know you're afraid of the "fascist" boogeyman-word, but what are you proposing we replace this global system with? And I know that the right of a nation to self-determine is inherent to your movement, but what do you advocate for your own country?

>>134663329
By pushing the limits of socially acceptable speech until "1488" is fine. My major concern is that this movement won't end up anywhere. You'll be stuck in (((Overton Window))) hell forever. Make vague fascist references like Dicky Spencer, for example, at that interview with the two niggers.

As a /pol/ac you should be well-aware how the game goes
>Trump is worse than Hitler.
>These libs are mad, Trump is nothing like Hitler
>These cuckservatives should be gassed, Trump is way worse than Hitler

Without a clear direction, what's the point? Is the end-game supposed to be secret?
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>>134663882
The "JQ" is a distraction. It's the practical things that need to be done (stop mass migration, then remigration).

Singling out jews just makes all jews go against you, when you can find allies among traditionalist jews (especially Israelis).
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>>134663524
There will always be power grabs, anon. Left, right or otherwise. It will always be so, unless you have mechanisms in place to reliably punish corruption by those in power. Sociopaths will be sociopaths.
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>>134642042
I absolutely agree.
Hypocrisy has no place in the movement, if one rejects the colonization of their own country by third worlders, they must reject the colonization of the third world by their own people, even if a few generations have passed.
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>>134664296
twitter and IG

https://twitter.com/rise_above_mvmt

https://www.instagram.com/rise_above_movement/
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>>134663991
Rise Above Movement. They were quite numerous at the various battles of Berkeley.

>>134664032

>they were different from Identity Evropa

Weird because they are always working together.

>pic related
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>>134646046
"back to africa"
i'm sold
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>>134664367
Solving the small problem while ignoring the general problem is a very tiresome and time-consuming way of doing nothing.
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>>134642371
Sexy
What's with the Overwatch logo flag, though? Wouldn't it be more appropriate to use the flag of one's own nation instead?
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>>134663983
They were the most effective Nationalist organisation ever in the UK. Really radical though. Unfortunately all UK movements are just full of idiots, old washed up idiots who just hate brown people.

Or pro israel groups like Britain First, the wannabe loyalist paramilitary party. Fuckin Clowns.

Proscribed as a terrorist organisation in December.

>>134664077
Yeah Im speaking about them

>>134664143
Meh, they're hardcore neo-nazi. Go on Ironmarch.org and you'll see where they get their ideology from.

>>134664296
I don't think they're openly NatSoc like NA were, they just don the facemasks. Youtube "Rise Above Movement".
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>>134664494
So going after jews as a whole (many of which have nothing to do with those ideas) will counter their ideas?

Why don't you think rationally instead of emotionally?
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>>134664367
I would rather kill myself than become friends with an Israeli. If you can't see the blatant manipulation of this refugee crisis by jews you're blind and a moron.
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>>134664434
Yeah. I stumbled across this today though.
https://twitter.com/Rise_Above_Mvmt/status/888858913638031360
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>>134651242

Could someone explain to me what the 68ers are? I know central Europe had hippie like movements in 1968 and then the Soviets sent in the military to normalize the situation in Prague. But what impact did the 68ers have? Why are they so relevant and what blame falls upon them? I was under the impression the movements in 1968 were effectively suppressed.
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>>134664223
Actually, our right focused on morals and culture for a while and really started turning people off. They stopped that because they kept on losing, and they are better off for it. Politics in the US is such that, campaigning on morals can bring short term gain, but it is a long term loser. Political correctness and its corresponding identity politics could be considered "morals," albeit very very twisted morals, but a value system none the less, and look at where it is getting the Dems.
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>>134664403
They certainly do get their aesthetics right for what they want to convey.
They probably haven't published any theoretical statements thus far, have they?

>>134664511
It emphasizes the idea that Identitarianism transcends any national border and is a broadly European movement.
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>>134664632
>Why don't you think rationally instead of emotionally?
I am thinking rationally, Shlomo.
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>>134664635
I'm not arguing many jews are involved in it. They are leftists and guess what, Israelis fucking hate them as well.

did you not see how Netanyahu now supports Hungary and Poland? If he's pro open borders then why is his party supporting people who w ant to fucking close them?

Seriously you guys who constantly spout off "ITS DA JEWZ" argue only on emotion and how fucking successful have you been in the last 60 years?
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>>134664056
I don't think the nazis are a good example of national socialism in practice, so I don't think it's necessarily the case that all national socialists would just use national myths in this way.

>>134664388
True, but I think they can be avoided at least to a certain extent with clear laws and transparency in government. It's naive to think that would work perfectly, but it would definitely make it more difficult to steal power.
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>>134664299
>By pushing the limits of socially acceptable speech until "1488" is fine
I'll agree with you on this one, people need to be 'converted' so that the current (((PC))) culture dies out, because right now, it's pretty much what this anon says >>134663438 sadly enough.

The left is so ridiculously retarded that everyone who doesn't agree with them is a Nazi. The demonstrations of GI + the boat thing is already pushing the authorities probably, but for now they'll allow it. If the boat project succeeds, it'd be good for the image of the movement as well. That's one step closer to '14/88'. And you go on from there.
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>>134664849
I forgot the part where you prove they all know each other and work together with a common plan that is so amazingly secret that no one has ever seen it.

Are there some Jews who are lefty fuckfaces? yes. Are all jews lefty fuck faces and all of them are elites? no.

In your irrational world all jews are mega millionaires who control everything. Sorry the world isn't that simple or stupid.
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>>134664948
Except economic leftism requires authoritarianism. You have to take resources from one person to give them to another, and most people aren't going to give up enough to make it work without the looming specter of force over their heads. It also leads to layers and layers of unnecessary bureaucracy, which is anything but transparent. Somebody has to manage all of the shit that was taken from the productive.
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>>134663556
Thank you very much! Identity Europa is the closest thing the US has to the european mouvement. They are trying to copy our methods and I think it can work quite well.

>>134663882
>What are the identitarian views on the JQ btw?

Anon, we're in Europe, you know we can't even talk about that right? Just talking about jewish elites and their communautarism would get you in jail if you're not jewish yourself.

And yes, there's indeed a problem with jewish communautarism and how their elites undermine nations, but 1) it's not only jews but overall a global oligarchy 2) it is counter productive to see all jews as a nearly single entity with a common goal. Just a week ago, Netanyahu supported Orban against Soros. I'm not saying Netanyahu is our guy, he has his own agenda, but it's not autistically screeming "da jooz" that will get us out of our current situation. Some are good and are just as afraid of islamic invasion as we are (in France we have a very famous one, Eric Zemmour, who uses his jewishness as a bulwark to speak in favor of white French against islam, immigration and the globalist agenda), some aren't and actively work against us.

>>134663857
Wouldn't you say you're a libertarian instead of a liberal?
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>>134654371

>wall off and fortify land with only one entrance/exit
>here shitskins here's a piece of land for you
>wait for it...wait for it
>shitskins have relocated to land
>put sarin in gas line or drop from above
>bye bye
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>>134654573

What hard work did you do faggot? Fuck off. Your people are shit and we don't want you.
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>>134665186
Muh not all joos
Muh not all muslims

It's not like they've ever deceived anyone else before hey? There is a disproportionate representation of jews in corporations and industry fields that push and influence people into supporting this.

Everything ties back to the jews. Cultural Marxism, degeneracy, multi-culturalism.

http://ropeculture.org/2016/06/13/there-are-no-good-jews/
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>>134664518aThe only way for Europeans to get enough steam is to convince the middle classes that action has to be taken against being over run and to boot out the traitor law makers, judiciary media and academics I certainly believe that the armed forces and police (which crosses over into the intelligence communities) must know about these traitors and can't be happy about it either.
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>>134664773
> Politics in the US is such that, campaigning on morals can bring short term gain, but it is a long term loser.

Actually, your example regarding Political Correctness incidentally proves the opposite. Turning PC around, is not only a moral loss for leftists, but also a moral win for rightists who didn't win that battle (which is actually far from over) by generally discrediting moral systems, but rather by (emotionally) mocking PC-culture and putting their own moral compass against it.

However, in one aspect you are right. A campaign purely based around questions of moral can not work without the necessary groundwork in the field of metapolitics. Influencing Metapolitics is ironically also the determining strategical maxim by which the Identitarians do their work.

You should really look it up.
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yo where can I get more info on this whole Identarian thing?
Also, is the Italian branch active at all?
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>>134665186
I just gave you the numbers and you're straw manning me in to oblivion. I don't think all of them are, I told you how much I KNOW of them are elites. No, it isn't that simple, you're right. Nuance will get your country wrecked, Shlomo. We're talking about generalities. Are ALL kikes leftist fuckfaces? No. Are most of them - YES! Are most of them more loyal to their tribe than their host nation - YES!

Of course there are nationalist kikes that adopt the ways of their host nation. But that's not how you deal with a general problem.

Kikes have been shoah'd throughout history, of course it would be an evolutionary, if you will, advantage for them to stick to their own and work against the national interest of their host nation, as the national interest is AGAINST the (((international))) interest.

Do you think I actually harbour a burning hatred towards Jews? No, I don't, shill. Sorry. I have reached my conclusions rationally.
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>>134657383

>sandniggers
>not foreign soldiers
>IRA
>not foreign soldiers
>luftwaffe
>they flew above us but didn't touch our soil lol semantics
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>>134665750
>Also, is the Italian branch active at all?
Yes.
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>>134647091
Ok I thought IG was based but it turns out that you are the most cucked pro-white group. Good luck defending europe and all but if you keep counter-signaling frontier nations you can fuck off.
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>>134663404
No, fuck you. Our homegrown (and not so homegrown in the case of the NR) are a fucking joke, both intellectually and in terms of activity.
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>>134665750
Italians in the lead for a mission uniting all our european chapters in order to send a boat near the libyan coasts and send back some rapefugees in Africa. Look up for Generazione Identitaria.

What do you want to know?
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>>134665977
xoxo ;*
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>>134665977
He meant some Americans tried to set up a scam to get money by creating a fake "generation identity", of course we're pro whites, we are ethnonationalists.
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>>134666054
Literally anything.
I never heard anything at all about all this, and power reading through this thread got me super interested
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>>134666054
>far right
>refugees
>anti-islam
OY VEY!
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>>134665750
hey ciao! CHiedimi tutto quello che vuoi!
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>>134666236
Really quick rundown:

https://www.counter-currents.com/2017/06/what-is-identitarianism/

Identitarians are (generally young), media savvy, people that are proud of their heritage, country and culture. We embrace European/White identity, while trying to distance ourselves from nutters. We have a long term strategy of cultural war, focusing on issues where we can count on a wide ranging public support.

We piss off the left because they use the same non violent protests the left uses. We're reproducing what worked for the left: non violent protests what get a lot of publicity, positivity about being European instead of constant negativity about migrants (though that's of course there and necessary too), thoughtful and well educated leadership, and we are counterculture while remaining a semblance of mainstream comfortable enough for people on the fence.

We're mainly inspired by the French New Right.

We're kind of a right-wing Greenpeace. Pro Europe, and thus anti EU. Europeans are a people, with different nations and cultures, but the same civilisation, roots and ennemies. We believe that even though a French, a German, an Italian, a Swede or a Pole are all Europeans and should band together against our common enemies, they’re still not the same and they should stay different. This is the true diversity we want to present. Same roots, same people, same homeland, mostly same interests, yet we’re different.
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>>134665498
Socially, I guess I could describe myself as either libertarianism or liberal (is there any difference there? I don't know). From an economic perspective I don't support libertarianism though, which is why I stopped describing myself that way a few years ago.
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>>134666236
To each people its homeland. Ours is, of course, Europe, and that's why we can't expand in the US. We still feel brothers with whites all around the Earth.

Our identity is on three layers. As a Frenchman (culture and language), I’m also a European (race and civilization) and a Norman (traditions and were my ancestors are buried). They complete each other and should not be opposed. Non non white of a european citizenship can ever claim that.

Most non whites (almost all of them) have to go back, and they will be remigrated, either by incitation and with help or, if needed, by force. But we aim to avoid a race war in our countries, because that would weaken us, so a political solution is favored.

We need to have our traditions and cultures live on, so we need to maintain them alive by loving and rediscovering our lands, by sharing our traditionnal songs, dances, legends with an accultured youth.

Everything that can be bought to our neighbour should be, then our region, then our nation, then our people, then maybe outside of Europe.

Democracy isn't inherently bad, look at Switzerland. It's all about where and how it's used. I'm personnaly in favor of direct democracy for cities and maybe regions, but that's up to everyone to have their own preferences. We're not a "full package political ideology", there's no economic, political, religious model.

Everything that can be done at the local level should be, and only going to a state level for important issues. We like subsidiarity and federalism, as it prevent an all powerful state or entity (like the UE) from erasing local ways of life, traditions, particularities and so on. The nanny State taking care of everything is killing us.

What we say can apply to virtually everyone: ethnically homogeneous nations, strong traditions and culture, localism, etc... I want for other people what I want for mine. We're not racists, just proud of who we are and we don't want to die.
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>>134666282
Is the Hungarian Chapter official?
I should put it into the /Identitarianism General/ Op then
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>>134662620

Do you not read about national socialism? Do you support shit like gays, trannies and other degenerate cultural poison? If not you sound like a NatSoc. I used to be free market but I see now that it ends with your people being replaced. Culture and People above all else.

How do you feel about shit like bathrooms where the law is built to justify a mental illness. The media and government feeding into a mental illness is what pisses me off.
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>>134666351
I see, and actually goes pretty much along with my pov about this topic, at least for what I understood.

Thanks for the rundown btw
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>>134666243
Dove posso trovare roba riguardante il ramo nostrano di questa "organizzazione"?
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