The Golden Armada

>>134599300
Let's make a plan. I need a bigger boat. Also I'm the guy with the sailboat to use for this operation.

>>134599501
Yes, let's. Since you said you need a bigger boat, do you already have a boat or was that a joke?

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>>134599300
But OP you forget about the Nazi moon base. This utopian nation you speak of already exists.

>>134599501
A farm ship would have to be the first priority. Do you think an oil tanker would work for that?

>>134599992
I have a 37' sloop and a 32' ketch in the water and a 35' motorsailer on land that needs work.
>>134600050
Like I said I need a bigger boat, like, big enough to use my 32' ketch as a dinghy.

>>134600050
Oil tanker would work, but it is probably better to build new.

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>>134600427
Are you this guy by chance?

>>134601507
Correct.

>>134601703
Nice, I remembered you had that sloop from last week. The first course of action should still be scouting the territory. Would you be able to reach the location easily enough?

>>134602260
Yes, and quickly. It is a racer built to withstand heavy weather conditions. It needs to be customized and upgraded. It would make a decent test bed but that said there are operating expenses involved. Plus work and lots of it. Just like owning a house there are things that need doing on a routine basis.
basically if you packed this boat full of food and supplies you could spend a year circumnavigating the globe and never touch the shore.

>>134602696
Would you need a crew to run the ship? If so how many?

>>134599300
can i be the Chef?

I'd join.

It's whites only yes ?

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>>134603260
It can be single handed but you have to be /fit/ and highly skilled. Much easier with two, and if you are going places you need to be on the helm 24/7 she's got tiller steering it's a real bitch. My Ketch is worm gear steering master race and I can leave the helm and make coffee in storm conditions and she just sails herself.

I'll probably end up selling her; need a walking foot sewing machine and a portable scuba air compressor among other things. Pic related is a different boat I renovated and sold for pocket change. It's like a hobby for me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIPtWBBxqaY

>>134604089
Ok, so would 4-6 people total work and have them work in shifts of 2 people?

>>134605131
Yes, that would be ideal in terms of safety and comfort.

We need a boat that will make fresh water. We will also need to make a man made island with trees and other land like features so our people at least have some standard of living and aren't living in scrapes of fucking metal

>>134605565
Alright, we can start building you a crew whenever you have the time to work on this project and this can get underway. Meanwhile I can start amassing an exodus from the Gulf and east coast and we'll be good.
>>134603621
Sure you can join, though since you are so far away you'll need to get yourself a ship.
>>134603345
I want my pizzas boneless.

>>134599501
hey john :---^)

u trying to survive a pole shift buddy

i have an extensive agrarian background in both crops and animals and will join

>>134606088
We need more socialism, but this time with a nationalist ring to it. What could we possibly call it?

You can buy old oil rigs to use for a solid base too.

>>134606088
It's called a watermaker and I can get them used or build from scratch. I use seawater for flushing the head and washing dishes, freshwater is used for cooking and drinking. Also there are manually operated watermakers availablefor emergency use in liferafts or as a backup system in case of primary unit failure. >>134606105
Sounds like an idea. I'll give it more thought. I can only afford one boat, so there has to be a serious commitment here in terms of funding and labor.

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>>134606342
h...hey there.
>http://london.sonoma.edu/Writings/SouthSea/whiteman.html

>>134606088
Artificial islands would be a waste of time and would anger states. Just buy an island with a harbour.

You need money just as much as you do food and water. You need to be worrying about income streams. Set up a business model where you can generate profit. Otherwise it won't work.

>>134606866
This is true 100%. Participants should either crew a ship or buy their own, at least in these early stages. Knowing how to sail is another important thing to have obviously. I'm currently looking at getting a schooner out of Kemah and will start building my crew once that's set to go.

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>>134607182
Pic related was made in Japan, really nice woodwork. Isuzu diesel engine.

>>134607556
Right. I'm considering a fractional ownership arrangement with a local fellow who has funds but no time to work on the boat. Also consider that the target area is the Pacific ocean. Don't buy a Schooner in Texas, come to Pugetopolis by plane and take over the sloop I don't need and is ideally suited for this kind of thing. Protip-you can get boats for cheap to free up to a limit. It's all about how much work you want to put into it.

>>134606866
Well That saves time. How about energy? A White ethno states would be embargoed by at least 1 super power. Being self sufficient should be key, renewable energy like solar panels would be a start

>>134607182
Very true, income is our biggest obstacle. Agriculture would be a good idea. Advances in hydroponics and other areas of farming means we might be able to sell crop to other nations for a fraction of the cost. But their isn't many resources at sea, tourism is another idea but thats a major investment with a high risk.

im not fully on board the idea of a 'fluid' nation so to speak, i think we should be based on an island and develop both land AND naval 'sovereignty'
anyone remember tuvalu, or namibia?
also remember public relations is really important

>>134607173
haha holy shit that was actually a shot in the dark, good to see you are still around though, do u recognize who i am yet?

>>134607999
>Bluefin tuna sold for over $600,000 at Japan auction

>>134599300
There's a reason desalination isn't widely in use today

>>134608427
Yep. I remember from like a year ago.

Califag checking in. Is a discord server up?

>>134608630
also this

>>134608183
I'd come up there and do that but I want to make sure everything goes well over here, along with finishing my job contract this winter.I should be good with something here as well as I intend on bringing the ships through the Panama Canal and coming in from the south.

>>134609056
How much is that schooner going to set you back? What's she got in terms of gear and systems?

Gimme boat life please. I have a degree in biology and know how to culture sea critters.

You guys should just buy an old oil platform

AND NO NIGGERS RIGHT /pol/!?!??

>>134609590
Haven't finalized yet but looking at the 10k range. I also went full retard and forgot to add that the Schooner was going to be way to expensive so it will probably just be another sloop similar to what you have.

>>134609607
Ok.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LG5ZNrOusWM

>>134608630
what is it?
better be damn good

>>134606088
also no manmade island, we need a real island. you know there are tons of islands in the pacific that literally no one lives on and where government is practically non-existant to the point they only barely have a claim on the island.

also first things first you guys need to get face-to-face meet ups organized. countries arent built with talk

>>134610520
I can get you a nice boat for much less money here. Cheap to free. I shit you not.

>>134610909
how long is this offer open? can you wait 3 or 4 years?

Thats American sea clay though, you cant just put it there

>>134611019
Well hopefully I will still be alive and kicking so yes, but just in case how you can get a boat is at marina auctions of boats to recover moorage debts. There are also boat storage yards full of boats people have abandoned. You just have to be prepared to take advantage of the opportunity when it presents itself and know what you are getting into.

Has anyone here ever actually lived at sea?
I've lived at sea for over 2 1/2 years in the past 5 years, and it sucks.

>>134610909
I'll see if they are having any auctions here but if they aren't or there's nothing good I'll come up there for sure. >>134611164
We can if we get protection from Russia in exchange for... warm water?

>>134612391
elaborate please
i would like to hear your opinion because i have been planning to live at sea for a while now

>>134612536
In the navy and I've been on two deployments, deployment consist of sitting of the coast of middle eastern countries for months.
I am not a person that gets sea sick, but when those waves start people cannot function. I get head aches and don't feel like doing anything (which I guess is a form of sea sickness).
And you feel trapped. I hate not being able to just get up and go. Sure you can just sail your boat where ever but it's just more water

>>134613014
I thought you were a liveaboard. Different.

>>134608630
Israel uses quite a bit of desalination and they have a water surplus despite alot of the country being desert

What's the plan for storms? Seems kinda risky when the typhoons/El Nino come swooping in. Can a whole nation of tightly packed boats not destroy itself?

>>134613946
Heave to. But why hang out where there are storms?

>>134613946
Well the boats won't be tightly packed, first off. Considering the size of the territory we are taking, people should be able to avoid storms fairly easily.