Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm
It is recommended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.
Resources:
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm
so what happens if i want to own my own stuff
>>134576786
> t. 14 year old kid wanting communism
Fuck off. Russia proved that communism is FAILED ideology as well as nazism and fascism.
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
https://www.gommies.gom/fug/
https://www.gommies.gom/starve/
GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
https://www.gommies.gom/ohfugme/
It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.
Resources:
https://www.gommies.gom/ohshid/
https://www.gommies.gom/1984/
https://www.gommies.gom/guck/
https://www.gommies.gom/probaganda/
https://www.gommies.gom/XDDDD/
https://www.gommies.gom/wheresfood/
https://www.gommies.gom/benis/
Da sdages of gommunism.
>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
>Sdage four
Nod real gommunism. Move on to nexd goundry :DDDDDDD
>>134577024
>so what happens if i want to own my own stuff
Personal property is alright in communism
FAQ for washed liberal-morons, kekistani egdelord teenagers and normal people who simply do not know much about communism:
1. Communism is the USSR.
The USSR is a socialist state, not a communist state.
2.1. Why, then, does the Communists all the time refer to the USSR?
Because the USSR is our historical experience of the practical construction of a communist society. We highlight the positive aspects of the experience of the USSR and study the negative experience. It is also worthwhile to understand that the USSR is for us a certain significant Symbol.
2.2 Communism is a dictatorship
Under communism there are no classes, accordingly there is no dictatorship.
3. What about the dictatorship of the proletariat?
The dictatorship of the proletariat is a temporary form of political power called upon to ensure the observance of the rights of the proletariat during the transition from capitalist society to communism.
4. But Stalin ...
With regard to the period of Stalin's rule, we can identify a lot of positive and negative aspects of his activities. But unfortunately, all-round propaganda has distorted the history of this period too much, therefore, without a comprehensive historical analysis of this period, it is impossible to draw unambiguous conclusions on the basis of ALL declassified documents.
5. And yet Stalin ...
We adequately perceive the figure of Stalin and treat him normally and without hysteria. Nevertheless, Stalin - though significant, but by no means the main figure of the communist movement.
6. What is the main figure, if not Stalin?
Marx
7. Ie you are not Communists, but Marxists?
Communism is part of Marx's teaching. At present, Marx's teaching has evolved into many directions. As for the precise definition, the terms "Communist" and "Marxist" often very much depend on the context.
8. Communism is the antithesis of democracy.
By no means. Communism is just a true democracy.
9. Under communism - all work in the Gulag for workdays on 24/7.
On the contrary, the Communists set their task to reduce the number of working hours, by increasing the productivity of labor. Ideally, we should work for 4 hours in fully automated production, the remaining time dedicated to self-development, art, hobby.
10. But wait! This is a capitalistic post-industrial one!
You are deeply mistaken my young friend. This is precisely communism. And under capitalism you will not get it. Communism is the highest stage of development of society and economy and if capitalism is similar to what I described above, then it turns into communism.
>>134577419
Spreading the lies already comrade
Have you ever heard about collectivization?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collectivization_in_the_Soviet_Union
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collectivization_in_Romania
The only personal property you'll have will be in the gulag.
>>134576786
Report and hide
>>134577419
so am i allowed to own means of production
(farms, machines, etc)
How's Venezuela doing???
>>134577926
In marxism there is a distinction between private property and personal property.
>>134577222
Fascism has actually worked you massive faggot of new.>>134577250
“The state is, therefore, by no means a power forced on society from without; just as little is it
'the reality of the ethical idea', 'the image and reality of reason', as Hegel maintains. Rather, it is
a product of society at a certain stage of development; it is the admission that this society has
become entangled in an insoluble contradiction with itself, that it has split into irreconcilable
antagonisms which it is powerless to dispel. But in order that these antagonisms, these classes
with conflicting economic interests, might not consume themselves and society in fruitless
struggle, it became necessary to have a power, seemingly standing above society, that would
alleviate the conflict and keep it within the bounds of 'order'; and this power, arisen out of
society but placing itself above it, and alienating itself more and more from it, is the state."
Engels
>>134577926
> be farmer
> work really hard
> commies came to power
> you go to siberia
> all your shit earned by hardworking goes to lazy drunks.
Fuck collectivization.
>>134578342
Didn't mean to reply to >>134577250
>>134578342
Fascism is lost its fight. It's now ideology of past.
>>134578390
>(((Engels)))
Is that why the Communist Manifesto calls for the creation of a (((Central Bank)))?
>tfw small business owner
>tfw OP is an unemployed Spaniard
Maybe if he applies himself, he'll make my coffee someday.
>>134576786
You have your own fucking website
fuck back off to lefty/pol/
>>134578653
Yes. Go on.
>>134578700
> t. commie edukation
Lul.
>>134578856
<<< Korolev. He made USSR rocket.
>>134578638
Yeah, and in the Soviet union he would get paid as much as a worker because of communist le worker is le most powerful class meme.
>>134578638
A fool and their money are soon parted.
>>134576786
Free Market.
Private central Banks.
Best thing to ever happen.
>>134578821
I have this website too. Is like if I tell you to fuck off to the donald or stormfront forum
>pic is average commie
This shit ain't working we tried it
>>134579221
>I didn't fight for this
Yes, (((Karl Mordechai))), yes you did.
>>134578467
Exactly, what I find ironic is these people will claim that they'll never do such a thing, and from a certain point of view they're right since they'll be shot when the true communists take control.
>>Be a commie supporter
>Shitpost all day trying to convert people to your ideology
>Sparks happen around your country, people want change
>You fight thinking you're fighting for the people
>Communism becomes a reality
>True commies appear without you even knowing they existed in the first place
>Secret police are formed, they'll have the task to analyze each of the so called party members estates.
>You're charged with treason in the first few weeks
>Spend the rest of your life working for the party whilst thinking "This isn't true communism"
Free markets >
>>134579602
>>pic is average commie
cyrillic says "right to bear arms"
Ez katka.
>>134579021
Russians deserve death by nuclear fire for abandoning communism your grandfathers fought for.
>>134579598
>its paradise, we swear
>>134579781
Actually fat people are lighter under the water than skinny people
USSR against science.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%B8%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0_%D0%B2_%D0%A1%D0%A1%D0%A1%D0%A0
>>134579924
My grandfathers was sent to siberia for not being lazy drunks.
Hello.
>>134580128
>Ruskie is making the Commie Spaniard mad.
>>134580128
Lysenkoism stopped being a thing after Stalin death, USSR corrected that mistake
>>134579221
If Communism is supposed to unite the workers, how come the working class always votes overwhelmingly right wing?
>>134580128
So he was a criminal and you are the offspring.
>>134579739
Only the kulaks and traitors will go to gulag
>>134577419
Can i have two pickaxes?
>>134579739
I agree, these fags don't realise that they'd be accused of plotting against the regime with their "true communism" ideals. Think about Trotsky. Communism has failed, fascism has failed and soon capitalism will fall. We need something new.
You know why commusim is so terrible ?
Because It's state owned.
Ahahahaha.
>>134580128
I was reading up on the bolshevik regime the other day.
Turns out Lenin actually wanted some kind of perfect anarchic communist state. But then when the Bolshevik party lost the elections by 2:1, he seized power, disestablished democracy, claiming that allowing it would destroy the revolution.
He then went full dictator. Most of the programs people blame Stalin for were actually started by Lenin. The gulags, the political persecutions, banning all opposition parties.....etc. All started and enacted by Lenin, continued under Stalin.
>>134580557
KOROLEV is traitor. OK then.
>>134580388
USSR is mistake.
>>134578700
Death is not have consent and therefore is not real capitalism.
>>134580425
It requires class conciousness and in marxism-leninist opinion it requires a revolutionary vanguard party instead of the democratic socialism approach *using the bourgeoisie pseudodemocracy apparatus.
>>134579739
>>134580647
>This far in the thread and nobody's posted commissar cletus
What are your thoughts on race realism and religion (Islam)?
I know a few girls in a marxist society that are pro islam and all that tranny faggy shit.
>>134580825
What do you think about the fact that Communism is Jewish?
>>134580825
Lol, so basically it requires everyone thinking exactly like you? But they don't, and they never will
Bet you $100 you aren't from the working class
who /naztrot/ here?
>>134580735
You are a mistake. 100 millions was not enough because youre alive.
>>134580931
It happened in the past, we know it is possible.
>>134581060
What do you think about the fact that Communism is Jewish?
>>134580425
because they are ignorant due to social circumstances, you can't think with sweat under your forehead every day
>>134581108
>It happened in the past
And failed miserably.
>>134580702
> t. american edukation
It's all totally wrong.
Before october revolution commies were really weak. They would suck without monarchist uprising against Kerensky.
Lenin was pretty cute guy. He even started NEP (capitalistic thing which helped soviet economy): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Economic_Policy
All of shit like gulags and collectivization started after his death.
>>134577250
>>134578528
Well I do mean it. Thanks fellow gommieposter, your effort is appresiated!:DDD
>>134580897
I know it is not jewish by definition, then you can invent any jewish conspiracy if you want with your tinfoil hat on.
>>134580876
They fell for the capitalist idpol meme, they are tools of the bourgeois.
>>134580557
And who decides who the kulaks and traitors are? It won't be you who decides. You'll have to hope you kiss the right asses and keep your mouth shut or you'll be locked up for being a traitor.
I'm happy that US is pumping that Oil from ya.
Communism at it's finest.
Easiest ADR's of their life,
>>134581399
>I know it is not jewish by definition
Created by Jews.
It's policies and beliefs are Jewish.
It benefits the Jews.
It harms the goyim.
Yes, Communism is Jewish.
> then you can invent any jewish conspiracy if you want with your tinfoil hat on.
It's no conspiracy. It's fact.
But hey, if there's nothing wrong with the Jews then you should embrace the fact that Communism is Jewish, right?
>>134581228
Stalin sent jews to siberia so no it isnt. Google jewish autonomic oblast.
Why did Soviet union fell? (Use google translate)
http://solidarizm.ru/txt/ruxso.shtml
>>134581602
You know Marx despised jews?
>b-but marx was a jew!
This is true, but only in an ethnic sense, his farther denounced judaism and became a christian.
>>134581241
Or maybe they're actually pretty smart people who understand how the world really works?
You're trying to redesign society for these people, and you've never been one of them. It's like trying to decide what's best for the penguins having never visited antarctica
>>134580557
Do you know who kulaks are? They were basically hardworking peasants who refuse to share. They had every moral right to do so.
>>134578225
That's some pretty insane mental gymnastics right there. I went school with this girl who said she did mental parkour. R U her?
Give me a quick run down on how you came o that conclusion.
>>134581602
It is a conspiracy. But not a conspiracy theory, it is conspiracy fact, as in: They are conspiring.
words matter. dont forget to bring sage.
>>134581695
>Stalin sent jews to siberia
Stalin was surrounded by Jews to do his dirity work.
Marx, Trotsky and Lenin were Jews.
First soviet government was mostly Jewish.
USSR protected Jews.
>>134581792
>You know Marx despised jews?
You know everything Marx did was Jewish?
>This is true, but only in an ethnic sense
Yes, Jews are a race.
>>134577722
>>134577855
Here's your (you). You work too hard writing this for no one to fall on the bait :(
>>134581958
You know that crazy orthodox priest, Brother Nathaniel? Marx was like him, an ex-jew.
>>134581876
They have no idea wtf they're talking about anyway.
>>134580844
Ty brit bro, couldn't find it ffs.
>>134581602
>Created by Jews
Karl Marx was atheist and disliked jewish usury. Bankers were bourgeoisie to be shot against the wall.
>It's policies and beliefs are Jewish
Moneyless classless society is direct opposition to jewish banking capitalist system.
>It benefits the Jews.
It benefits the working class and not the capitalist jewish bankers.
<<< This is what commie do with workers.
>>134582135
>Bankers were bourgeoisie to be shot against the wall
The communist revolution was funded by bankers
>>134582073
>You know that crazy orthodox priest, Brother Nathaniel? Marx was like him, an ex-jew.
Difference being, Marx is a Communist and Communism is Jewish.
Also, Communism is inherently anti-White.
>>134582135
>Karl Marx was atheist
Jews are a race.
>and disliked jewish usury.
But loved the Jews lording it over the goyim through communism.
>Moneyless classless society is direct opposition to jewish banking capitalist system.
Capitalism is just as Jewish as Communism.
>It benefits the working class and not the capitalist jewish bankers.
Communism benefits the Jews and the Jews alone.
IT says anarcho communism, but if communism is truly stateless, isn't anarcho a bit redundant according to you?
>>134581958
>You know everything Marx did was Jewish?
in what sense?
>>134576786
>>let's establish a communist presence on pol
>has no way to censor right wing speech
Good fucking luck cuckboy
>>134581958
You are too brainwashed by blatant lies to have dialogue with. Everything in your infantile mind is a jewish conspiracy.
>>134582560
America's Communist Movement Owed a Lot to Jewish Support
http://myjewishlearning.com/history/Modern_History/1914-1948/American_Jewry_Between_the_Wars/Radical_Politics.shtml
http://archive.is/1no4Q
Anti-Semitism
https://marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1931/01/12.htm
http://archive.is/XxRXf
>In the U.S.S.R. anti-semitism is punishable with the utmost severity of the law as a phenomenon deeply hostile to the Soviet system. Under U.S.S.R. law active anti-semites are liable to the death penalty.
Bolshevik Propaganda
https://archive.org/stream/cu31924030480051/cu31924030480051_djvu.txt
>Senator Wolcott. Are they in favor of any particular religion?
>Mr. Huntington. Not the leaders of this movement themselves; no, sir. The leaders of the movement, I should say, are about two-thirds Russian Jews and perhaps one-sixth or more of some of the other nationalities, like the Letts or the Armenians. The assistant in the foreign office was an Armenian. Then there are the Georgians; that is, the so-called Gruzinians of the Caucasus, and the remaining number Slavs. The superiority of the Jews is due to their intellectual superiority, because the average Jew is so much better educated than the average Russian; and also, I think, to the fact that the Hebrew people have suffered so in the past in Russia that it has inevitably resulted in their cherishing a grudge which has been worked out by the movement.
Chinese Communism?
http://jrbooksonline.com/HTML-docs/chinese_communism.htm
http://archive.is/j9jhk
Communism and the Jews
http://volokh.com/2011/10/29/communism-and-the-jews/
http://archive.is/bBdhk
Communism was Jewish - Communism is Jewish
http://controversyofzion.info/communism_was_jewish.htm
http://archive.is/SRRIz
Communism's Death Toll, and the Jewish Role in Bolshevism
https://youtube.com/watch?v=km6u4L1JsmY
A Jew in Mao's China
http://blogs.forward.com/the-arty-semite/159051/a-jew-in-maos-china/
http://archive.is/zuvnn
>>134582395
>jewish banking usury exist in communism
Just how stupid are you?
>>134577722
What happens if you don't have infinite resources at your disposal?
>>134582560
Jews and Marxism - Socialism - Communism
http://come-and-hear.com/dilling/chapt11.html
http://archive.is/bzuaa
The Jewish Century by Yuri Slezkine
http://books.google.com/books?id=9QNuiuhPzzIC&pg=PA175#v=onepage&q&f=false
Jewish Communists
http://archive.is/gs9q1
Jewish Founders of International Communism for the One World Order
http://archive.is/FxwIc
Jewish Pre-Eminence in the Political Left/Communism
http://holywar.org/jewishtr/commun.htm
http://archive.is/9GVHi
The Jewish Role in the Bolshevik Revolution and Russia's Early Soviet Regime
http://ihr.org/jhr/v14/v14n1p-4_Weber.html
http://archive.is/kFzh2
Jewish Activists Created Communism
http://truthtellers.org/alerts/jewishactivistscommunism.html
http://archive.is/3Euel
Jews and Bolshevism
http://heretical.com/miscellx/bolshies.html
http://archive.is/it45j
Jews and Communism
http://archive.is/C7rMb
Jewish Bolsheviks
https://youtube.com/watch?v=7lBtS_KBYec
Jewish Faces in Chinese Government
http://archive.is/FDURV
Jews and Communism - The South African Experience
http://rense.com/general85/jcom.htm
http://archive.is/QqhGD
Judaic Communists: The Documentary Record
http://revisionisthistory.org/communist.html
http://archive.is/k41f5
Karl Marx
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Marx#Childhood_and_early_education:_1818.E2.80.931836
http://archive.is/rwTdC
>Ancestrally Ashkenazi Jewish, his maternal grandfather was a Dutch rabbi, while his paternal line had supplied Trier's rabbis since 1723, a role taken by his grandfather Meier Halevi Marx.
Leon Trotsky
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trotski#Childhood_and_family_.281879.E2.80.931895.29
http://archive.is/xMRhM
>He was the fifth child of eight of well-to-do Jewish farmers, David Leontyevich Bronshtein and his wife Anna Bronshtein. The family was Jewish but reportedly not religious.
List of Communist Jews
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/List_of_communist_Jews
http://archive.is/L080c
>>134582550
this board is pretty empty, most of the posts are bots and shills
>>134582759
>>jewish banking usury exist in communism
Oh look, the judeo communist is putting words in my mouth.
Communism is Jewish.
Capitalism is Jewish.
Both are soulless materialist systems that give power to the Jews to rule over the goyim.
>be NEET without any prior qualifications, education or job experience
>let me tell you about the struggles of the working class
>>134582560
Putin: First Soviet Government was Mostly Jewish
http://jpost.com/Jewish-World/Jewish-News/Putin-First-Soviet-government-was-mostly-Jewish-317150
http://archive.is/uNDV5
Putin: Soviet Government Was Mostly Jewish
https://youtube.com/watch?v=oIeYoF1VhHc
Sources on Jews and Communism
https://archive.org/details/SourcesOnJewsAndCommunism_700
Soviet People By Ethnic or National Origin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Soviet_people_by_ethnic_or_national_origin
Soviets Evacuating Jews
http://archive.is/0rw2L
Soviets Razed Churches, Spared Synagogues
http://henrymakow.com/001913.html
http://archive.is/hcyTf
Stalin's Jews
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html
http://archive.is/WAARm
Stalin's Willing Executioners: Jews as a Hostile Elite in the USSR
https://darkmoon.me/2015/stalins-willing-executioners-jews-hostile-elite-ussr/
http://archive.is/NaSDY
The Truth About Nelson Mandela – Communist, Terrorist, Murderer (With Jewish Handlers)
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2015/06/the-truth-about-nelson-mandela-communist-terrorist-murderer-with-jewish-handlers-3170156.html
http://archive.is/02SqB
Under the Sign of the Scorpion - Jewish Communists
https://youtube.com/watch?v=lZj1emEb1-g
Vladimir Lenin Was Part Jewish, Say Declassified KGB Files
http://content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2077413,00.html
http://archive.is/y5Pr8
Zionism versus Bolshevism by Winston S. Churchill
http://fpp.co.uk/bookchapters/WSC/WSCwrote1920.html
http://archive.is/NpjIj
>>134582727
Communists dislike racism because we focus on class conflict. We want to gulag all the bankers and capitalists no matter the race.
>>134576786
>GOMMUNIZM
wow... its like disneyxD
>>134582917
Define how an ideology can be "Jewish"
>>134576786
die commie rats
>>134583010
fuyck you/
t former commie state/
we have freedom now.
>>134582174
Can I have the history on this picture? First time I see it
>>134582928
Well, capitalism isn't benefiting neets at all, in fact capitalism is the reason for neets, these are people who have given up, they do not want to compete.
>>134583170
>>134583010
>Communists dislike racism because we focus on class conflict.
Therefore you're anti-White because you support the beliefs and policies that will cause the extinction of the White race.
Also, there's literally nothing wrong with being racist.
>>134583038
>Define how an ideology can be "Jewish"
Created by Jews.
Inherently Jewish in its beliefs.
Let me guess, you don't think the religion of Talmudic Judaism is Jewish either?
>>134583038
>Define how an ideology can be "Jewish"
how new are you?
>>134576786
OP
>Hey guys, I am totally not some young idealist who has no real experience outside of my coddled city life.
>Let me show you how I would make something that cannot work, work. Dont worry, just because every other time this has been tried it resulted in untold death, destruction, poverty, and suffering, THIS TIME it will provide life, liberty, and happyness.
>At least its not evil capitalism! am I right!
>>134583076
No it is the nazi that got killed to last man when we fought last time. The weak should fear the strong.
>>134583219
i cant see poland there
fuck gomies and fuck judeo-bolsheviks.
>>134583170
You should be shot against the wall.
>>134583335
>>134583219
>be me
>be born in communist Albania
>family lives off rationed shitty food and dad works 12 hours a day
>literally no luxuries at all
>be 1993
>communism falls in Albania
>uncle first one to come to America
>starts his own trucking business
>I begin working with him here in 2007
>he owns 30 trucks now and I own 4 and make around 6000-8000 dollars a month
THANK YOU CAPITALISM
>>134583177
> 1962
> labor strike
> 30 killed by Red army, and 100 wounded
Most of Russians only learned about it in 80-90s
>>134583435
>You should be shot against the wall.
You judeo commies should be deported from White countries. Maybe sent to Africa to be among the niggers you love so much.
>>134583435
you should tell where you live? btw i hate capitalizm also.
>>134581767
> 1918.12.10
> No. 933. Decree of the Council of People's Commissars. On surrendering weapons.
All citizens and all institutions of the civil department must hand over all the serviceable and faulty rifles, machine guns and revolvers of all systems, cartridges to them and checkers of every type.
Ignore shill posts, ignore shill threads.
>>134578638
Communism did no-one rich and successful outside the politbyro
>>134578700
Nice sources
>>134579007
>private property caused statist wars
>>134583567
Thx m8. I'll have a shot of vodka on your name.
>>134583906
*made
>>134581767
> 1918.12.10
> No. 933. Decree of the Council of People's Commissars. On surrendering weapons.
> All citizens and all institutions of the civil department must hand over all the serviceable and faulty rifles, machine guns and revolvers of all systems, cartridges to them and checkers of every type.
Ignore shill posts, ignore shill threads.
>>134583529
Why did you leave glorious capitalist Albania? Has capitalism not delivered glory to Albania?
>White pride flag
>Albanian
>>134584153
Albania is still recovering you know, like most former communist countries.
>>134583435
in the 80\ here punks was against gomunizm, you ask why? think for yourself. all systems are anti freedom.
>>134583574
The only thing jew here is you and your pro capitalism propaganda.
>>134583582
I live in finland and my greatgrandfather killed many russians. His father got killed in the finnish communist revolution.
GAY.
>>134584030
Of course the judeo commies want the goyim disarmed. Can't fight back that way.
Interesting how so many jews in the USA are gungrabbers as well...
After Newtown, Jews Lead Renewed Push on Guns
http://forward.com/news/168063/after-newtown-jews-lead-renewed-push-on-guns/
Bay Area Jewish Moms Take Leading Role in Campaign Against Gun Violence
http://www.jweekly.com/article/full/67916/bay-area-jewish-moms-take-leading-role-in-campaign-against-gun-violence/
Gabby Giffords and Jewish Groups Back Barack Obama Push on Guns
http://forward.com/news/breaking-news/328694/gabby-giffords-and-jewish-groups-back-barack-obama-push-on-guns/
Jewish Groups and Lawmakers Seeking Gun Control Get Major Boost from Obama
http://www.timesofisrael.com/obama-backs-california-senators-assault-weapons-ban-as-jewish-groups-work-toward-gun-control/
ewish Gun Control Backers Plan New Push
http://forward.com/articles/175270/jewish-gun-control-backers-plan-new-push/?p=all
Jewish Politicians Lead Chorus Calling for Tighter Gun Laws
http://www.timesofisrael.com/jewish-politicians-join-chorus-calling-for-tighter-gun-laws/
Jews Lead Gun Control Charge
http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=783
Rabbi Michael Lerner: Banning Guns is Necessary But Not Sufficient
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rabbi-michael-lerner/banning-guns-is-necessary_b_2308272.html
U.S. Jews Support Gun Control, but the Political Debate Ignores it
http://haaretz.com/opinion/u-s-jews-support-gun-control-but-the-political-debate-ignores-it-1.453018
>>134583177
a scene from an anti-communist movie funded by a Russian-Jewish oligarch
I am not an antisemite, but is it too much for right-wing anti-semites to stay consistent
>>134584153
>Why did you leave glorious capitalist Albania?
because it had been ruined by communists. because politics, judiciary, police are all "former communists" (i.e. communists). you scum ruined my country for 50 years. you think we can clear that up overnight? stupid pinko bastard.
>>134583432
>>134584377
>His father got killed in the finnish communist revolution
good
>>134584331
The punks in the 80's eastern bloc were socialist anarchist not fucking capitalist bootlickers like yourself.
>>134584612
He was a martyr and i will honor his sacrifice for the greater good.
>>134584647
>calls others capitalist bootlickers
>licks Jewish boots.
lol
>>134584761
>the greater good
>judeo communism
Pick one.
>>134583435
>>134582560
>>134581241
>These brainwashed idiots deserved to by lined up and shot!
>Why isn't anyone being nice to me or considering what I'm saying? :((((
>>134584647
no, don't mingle us with your gulag menatality. how many words you need? dont steel our movement for your political gain. fuck off
>>134584296
It has been "recovering" for 20+ years
>>134584496
Are you a Muslim?
Albania was a fucking Italian colony with people killing children over feuds, you people couldn't read or much of anything else
Communism develops you and then it is done away by the corrupt ignorance of your people and now you still blame communism?
What did communism do wrong to you?
Prevent ethnic cleansing? end child murdering feuds? build hospitals and universities? teach you to read? stop barbaric Muslim practices?
now you have your glorious capitalism for 20+ years and you still blame communism
If you love Albania go back and develop it instead of taking American jobs you probably use corrupt connections to get
20+=/=overnight
communism advanced Albania way more in that time frame than capitalism has
>>134584761
he was a useful idiot with a parasite's heart and too low an IQ to understand economics
>>134585226
what happens in 2 days?
>>134584784
Its ironic that you defend jewish bankers and jewish capitalists. I blame the judeo-american propaganda that kids nowdays have no idea what communism really is.
>>134585364
punks are always anti system, and anti flags right? so fuch your flag
>>134581767
> 1918.12.10
> No. 933. Decree of the Council of People's Commissars. On surrendering weapons.
> Hiding any weapons, delay in surrendering them or opposing this process, will cause an imprisonment for a term of one to ten years.
Ignore shill posts, ignore shill threads.
>>134585364
>Its ironic that you defend jewish bankers and jewish capitalists
No, I don't because I'm not a capitalist. Does my flag say "capitalist" on it? Have I once defended judeo capitalism in this thread?
>I blame the judeo-american propaganda that kids nowdays have no idea what communism really is.
I learned everything I need to know about Communism on my own. It's Jewish.
>>134585126
Communism is the opposite of parasitism. Its judeo-american propaganda that socialism is "high taxes and welfare state". In communism working man gets to keep the full value of his labor that he has produced. But its up to you to read the basics of communism.
>>134585589
fuck you too, nazi larpers
>>134585364
>who did Schiff, Warburg, Rothschilds and Baruch fund
>>134585589
What does Judaism and communism share?
Christianity is more Jewish than communism.
>>134585887
>fuck you too, nazi larpers
Nope not a LARPer, not in the NSM.
Though I do understand how a Pole could be anti-NatSoc. You more than just about anyone has received mega doses of commie lies.
The Forced War ~ David Hoggan
http://jrbooksonline.com/PDF_Books/David%20Hoggan-The%20Forced%20War.pdf
Adolf Hitler Explains Reasons for Invading Poland
https://youtube.com/watch?v=VQL2D3uBvSI
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Djk8oqLrrAY
Death in Poland: The Fate of the Ethnic Germans
https://wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/deathinpoland/dp00.html
https://archive.is/krBrL
The Gleiwitz "False Flag" Incident is Pure Fiction
https://carolynyeager.net/gleiwitz-%E2%80%9Cfalse-flag%E2%80%9D-incident-pure-fiction
https://archive.is/WvBdi
The Heretics' Hour: The False Story of the Gleiwitz "False Flag" Incident
http://reasonradionetwork.com/20120319/the-heretics-hour-the-false-story-of-the-gleiwitz-false-flag-incident
https://archive.is/EgOvk
Poland and Falsifications of Polish History
https://cwporter.com/loeser2.htm
https://archive.is/u1lcI
Polish Atrocities Against the German Minority in Poland
http://jrbooksonline.com/polish_atrocities.htm
https://archive.is/KOYwn
The True Reason Why Germany Invaded Poland
https://youtube.com/watch?v=zYZjcz4LU6E
The Unknown History of the 1939 German-Polish Conflict
https://wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/articles/wrsynopsis.html
https://archive.is/ZKifR
>>134585769
don't fool your self, its not freedom, we are to dumb, always some dictador wilkl bor to take advantage
>>134585769
>"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" (French: De chacun selon ses moyens, à chacun selon ses besoins; German: Jeder nach seinen Fähigkeiten, jedem nach seinen Bedürfnissen) is a slogan popularised by Karl Marx in his 1875 Critique of the Gotha Program.
>>134585589
Fascism is the capitalist answer to imminent communist revolution. You are the ultimate good goys for the rich bankers that financed Hitlers rise to power. The bankers fear most the communist not his fascist puppets.
>>134586092
>What does Judaism and communism share?
Both were created by Jews.
>Christianity is more Jewish than communism.
Christianity is anti-Jewish. Christianity makes Judaism and the Jews a defunct faith and a defunct people.
Christianity is Not Jewish
http://pastebin.com/9cxmXPCB
>>134586135
good, fuck germany as a cuntry also
>>134586239
here is a good vid for you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9Lievywdoo
>>134586239
>You are the ultimate good goys for the rich bankers that financed Hitlers rise to power. The bankers fear most the communist not his fascist puppets.
Hitler Arrested Baron Louis De Rothschild
http://beforeitsnews.com/power-elite/2015/09/hitler-arrested-baron-louis-de-rothschild-2449826.html
https://archive.is/tYZyn
Hitler versus Rothschild
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Wk7F3OYhp4Q
Hitler Was Not a Rothschild or a Zionist Agent
http://mk.christogenea.org/podcasts/hitler-was-not-rothschild-or-zionist-agent
Hitler's Speech Against the International Bankers, Warmongers, England
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Kj3aKE4M5bk
How Hitler Defied the International Bankers
https://archive.org/details/HowHitlerDefiedTheInternationalBankers
>>134586239
Adolf Hitler and the German Economic Miracle
https://youtube.com/watch?v=FQu3ovIlPh4
Adolf Hitler's Economic Reform
https://youtube.com/watch?v=_r9Z-hTn1r4
Against the Mainstream: Nazi Privatization in 1930s Germany - Germà Bel
http://ub.edu/graap/nazi.pdf
The Economic Plan of the NSDAP - Rodney Martin
https://youtube.com/watch?v=pKnFN8P21-0
Fascist Economics and Socialism of Duty [How National Socialism is Different from Marxist Socialism]
https://archive.is/7CUMq
The German State on a National and Socialist Foundation - Gottfried Feder
http://archive.org/details/GottfriedFederTheGermanStateOnANationalAndSocialistFoundation
Hitler's Coup: The German War Against Globalism
https://youtube.com/watch?v=epw-rISDJSE
Hitler's Economic Miracle
https://pridecomethbeforeafall.wordpress.com/2014/02/10/hitlers-economic-miracle/
https://archive.is/hTgO2
How Hitler Tackled Unemployment and Revived Germany's Economy
https://youtube.com/watch?v=O99fWf_UIWs
How Hitler Tackled Unemployment and Revived Germany's Economy - Mark Weber
http://ihr.org/other/economyhitler2011.html
https://archive.is/XKACi
Manifesto for the Abolition of Interest-Slavery - Gottfried Feder
https://archive.org/details/GottfriedFederManifestoForTheAbolitionOfInterestSlavery1919
National Socialist Economics
http://pastebin.com/PPsmxdiK
National Socialist German Economic Policy
http://mk.christogenea.org/podcasts/national-socialist-german-economic-policy-part-1-june-15th-2013
http://mk.christogenea.org/podcasts/national-socialist-german-economic-policy-part-2-june-22nd-2013
http://mk.christogenea.org/podcasts/national-socialist-german-economic-policy-part-3-june-29th-2013
The Program of the NSDAP the National Socialist Workers' Party and its General Conceptions
https://archive.org/details/GottfriedFeder_TheProgramOfTheNSDAP
>>134586239
again, >>134586062 communist, coercively enforced state monopoly is the best thing that could ever happen to a Jewish banker. White identity of course is destroyed in the process. Just follow the money; the banking Jews knew who really share their interests
>>134586239
The Role of Private Property in Nazi Germany - Jonas Scherner
http://aryanism.net/downloads/books/buchheim-scherner/the-role-of-private-property-in-the-nazi-economy.pdf
Social Welfare in Germany - Werner Reher
https://archive.org/details/SocialWelfareInGermany
Terramare Publications #11 - German Economic Policy - Wilhem Baur
https://archive.org/details/GermanEconomicPolcy
>>134576786
P R O P E R T Y
U B E R
A L L E S
bullets are free for your kind tho
>>134586373
>This video is not available in your country
>>134586289
communism predates Karl Marx, Feuerbach promoted it before Marx and there have been numerous communist movements before Marx
such as the Diggers in England
were the Diggers and Feuerbach Jews?
>Karl Marx
>Jew
Was Jesus not a Jew? As most of his disciples who were former Jews
If you believe in Christ, then why not hold all property in common as he instructed?
>>134586184
Communism is simply put equality AND freedom. Its very close to anarcho-socialism but the marxist-leninist have this idea to make "proletarian dictatorship" until we get freedom. It has not worked as we can see from history and im strongly opposed to it. Communists need to learn from past mistakes and the ideology has to evolve.
>>134586615
https://www.proxysite.com/youtube/
So the leftist vermin's over at /leftypol/ seem to be really hellbent in keeping their mass false flagging campaign to take down "problematic" videos, see link, these are the videos they are targeting:
https://pad.riseup.net/p/9V7NYv7j32fl
It's a growing list, lot of /pol/ content in there, other more mainstream shit, even harmless partial pro-white videos are enough to make it on the list. They are really pump-up about it also, they feel like they are truly "fighting the ebil nazis" or some shit. These are the same ppl responsible for all the Murdoch Murdoch videos being taken down.
Is /pol/ going to have any response to this or what?
>>134586373
give one example of Fascism/national socialism outlasting the life of a dictator?
rate > https://youtu.be/reVROFEBnAg
pank kurwy
>>134586622
>Was Jesus not a Jew? As most of his disciples who were former Jews
The Jews of today are not the Jews of biblical times.
The Religion of Talmudic Judaism of today is not the religion of biblical times.
>If you believe in Christ, then why not hold all property in common as he instructed?
Why would I take my opinions on my faith from someone that doesn't understand it and probably even hates it?
>>134586713
I don't get into the weeds of labels and shit, but it is necessary to have a vanguard party, there has not bee nor will there ever be a mass outbreak of revolutionary fervor, you need a vanguard to lead the way
>>134586213
This is the end goal of communism. It will not happen until the society is so rich that all your needs can be fullfilled. Until then workers own the factories and workplaces and get all the profit the co-operation has made in their own pockets where it belongs because they worked for it.
>>134585769
> In communism working man gets to keep the full value of his labor that he has produced
This is bullshit though.
The state gets it and then gives it to people who are more lazy... or just their figureheads because communists are corrupt like that
>134586761
>give one example of Fascism/national socialism outlasting the life of a dictator?
Yeah you capitalists and communists can't stand it when Whites rise up and overthrow your entire system can you?
Give me one example of real communism actually working.
>>134586622
not a Christian, but
>Not to covet and scheme to acquire another's possession (Exodus 20:14)
>Not to desire another's possession (Deuteronomy 5:18)
>>134586713
>Communism is simply put equality AND freedom
Anti-Semitism
https://marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1931/01/12.htm
http://archive.is/XxRXf
>In the U.S.S.R. anti-semitism is punishable with the utmost severity of the law as a phenomenon deeply hostile to the Soviet system. Under U.S.S.R. law active anti-semites are liable to the death penalty.
Soviets Razed Churches, Spared Synagogues
http://henrymakow.com/001913.html
http://archive.is/hcyTf
Stalin's Willing Executioners: Jews as a Hostile Elite in the USSR
https://darkmoon.me/2015/stalins-willing-executioners-jews-hostile-elite-ussr/
http://archive.is/NaSDY
>>134587056
Should've linked to >>134586761
>>134587002
>It will not happen until the society is so rich that there's no scarcity
Haha lad. Maybe you should start with getting food on the proletariat's plates and work from there
>>134586968
Marx never even called himself a Jew, yet he is more Jewish than the disciples who did?
Communism existed before Marx and was popularized by non-Jews
If the communist parties of the world were to abandon Marx and embrace Feuerbach would they then count on your support, now that they have eliminated Jewish influence?
>Why would I take my opinions on my faith from someone that doesn't understand it and probably even hates it?
I didn't know you had such a low opinion of Jesus, to accuse him of misunderstanding and hating the religion he founded
>>134587116
>old testament
fuck of rebbe
the word of Jesus supersedes all
>>134586982
We have seen it and it failed. Its time for real democracy where the workers decide how the economy is run. They know what they need and specialists help them to plan it. Of course there will be markets but it will be socialist market where the workers own the corporations.
who SKA here? https://youtu.be/dWBhX4hboKY
>>134587383
>Feuerbach advocated liberalism, atheism, and materialism.
I think it's Jewish and anti-gentile to its core, m8
>>134587234
not even one example, pathetic
It is not asking for much, just one fascist state that had a peaceful transition of power from one dictator to dictator-protege
>>134587383
>Marx never even called himself a Jew,
Jews are a race. Destroying the goyim is in his DNA.
>Communism existed before Marx
No, it didn't.
>and was popularized by non-Jews
Communism is inherently Jewish even if some good goyim go along with it.
>If the communist parties of the world were to abandon Marx and embrace Feuerbach would they then count on your support, now that they have eliminated Jewish influence?
No because communism is inherently Jewish.
>I didn't know you had such a low opinion of Jesus, to accuse him of misunderstanding and hating the religion he founded
Not that I'd even consider the opinions of a judeo communist atheist, mind you.
You Jews are of the devil. Your father is the god of lies.
>>134587487
no it doesn't
If you're going to assert that Jesus was for stealing, the purden of proof is on you
>>134587702
>It is not asking for much, just one fascist state that had a peaceful transition of power from one dictator to dictator-protege
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/loaded-question
>>134587352
I admit every socialist needs to look in the mirror and learn from the horrible mistakes we did to eastern bloc workers. Capitalism will end sooner or later but we decide what comes next.
>>134587599
xDDDDDDDDDDDD
>>134586622
Jesus never said to hold all property in common, in fact He made a clear distinction between private property and the state.
Matthew 12:17
"Render unto Caesar what is his..and unto God what is His...etc etc."
Clear and distinct separations, how could you be dumb enough to read that any differently?
>>134576786
Please die
>>134587188
Communists kill jewish bankers but have nothing against innocent jews. Its about class not race.
>>134587967
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNznrYVP0hw
fire
>>134587967
better start working on some theories on how to allocate resources, then. You do know how to push your demoralizing culture and break windows, but you still actually need to come up with a system that is AS FAR AS POSSIBLE from all your previous attempts
>>134576786
>>134580557
Are you currently self-employed, or part of a commune or coop?
>>134588562
Socialist market economics is the best answer to our current needs. Until automatisation will make communism inevitable.
>>134588320
>>134588465
>Communists kill jewish bankers
Communism is Jewish and the first soviet government was mostly Jewish.
>but have nothing against innocent jews.
There are no innocent Jews. Pic related.
>Its about class not race.
Jews don't care about the existence or survival of the White race.
Communists don't care about the existence or survival of the White race.
Jews are anti-White.
Communists are anti-White.
>>134588759
>>134588656
My profession is plumber but im now studying capitalist economics in university.
Comrade, this fell out of your pocket!
>>134576786
You better be LARPers. Commies were worse than NatSocs. Nobody in their right mind and with even a semblance of knowledge of recent history would willingly be communist.
>>134588777
Only thing jew here is you. Fuck off jewish capitalist bootlicker.
>>134587562
you need a vanguard party to lead and educate the masses, of course running the means of production is the prerogative of the workers.
It can and has been done look at pic related, Cultural revolution China was the closest humanity got to communism
read Mobo Gao' book on the cultural revolution and Dongping Han's book "the hidden cultural revolution"
>>134587610
materialism says that only the material exists, Jews believe in yahweh and sheeit
Atheism is by default not Jewish
what is Jewish about liberalism? now remember that the 18th century definition of liberalism isn't the 21st century American definition
>>134587713
>Jews are a race. Destroying the goyim is in his DNA
have you sequenced Karl Marx's DNA? maybe his dad got cucked by a black man
>No, it didn't.
make a positive claim, this argument won't go anywhere if you make a negative claim, because you can't prove a negative. My evidence for pro-Marx communism is the Diggers movement and many other some with even based on Christian teaching such as the Hutterites
>Communism is inherently Jewish even if some good goyim go along with it.
how so?
>No because communism is inherently Jewish.
prove it
>Not that I'd even consider the opinions of a judeo communist atheist, mind you.
I don't think Jesus would like being called an atheist
>You Jews are of the devil. Your father is the god of lies
I am sensing some projection here, who hurt you?
>>134587893
still waiting on that example
>>134588222
Acts 2:42-47
> They devoted themselves to the apostles’ teaching and to fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer. 43 Everyone was filled with awe at the many wonders and signs performed by the apostles. 44 All the believers were together and had everything in common. 45 They sold property and possessions to give to anyone who had need
who instructed them to do so?
the verse you cited doesn't say anything about private vs common property
>>134588753
>planner's preferences---->scarcity prices---->opportunity costs----->planner's preferences (repeat the cycle)
yeah, that'll work surely just splendid. No need for decision-making based on decentralized knowledge and private property constraints.
in plain English: you do realize how that is unfeasable?
>>134588759
This is awful bait.
>>134588969
Are you a self employed plumber?
>>134589052
It's /leftypol/ shilling again.
Just remind them that:
COMMUNISM IS THE ULTIMATE POLITICALLY CORRECT IDEOLOGY
Because they don't know how to respond to this. They are utterly lost on politically incorrect board.
COMMUNISM IS THE ULTIMATE POLITICALLY CORRECT IDEOLOGY
>>134588969
word https://youtu.be/rgyKgPZ9n9E?list=PL0B5897D19FDF1F19
>>134576786
>>134588759
Marx was a far-sighted man: his projections have still not come true
>>134577419
Kindly define the difference between property I am allowed to own and property I am not allowed to own?
>>134589077
>Only thing jew here is you.
I am that which you jews fear. A National Socialist.
>Fuck off jewish capitalist bootlicker.
Again..Said the Jewish bootlicker.
You can't even comprehend that anyone others than capitalists oppose you commie faggots.
>>134588777
>Communism is Jewish and the first soviet government was mostly Jewish
what does "mostly" mean? The first Soviet government was not by any means majority Jewish and Baltic ethnicities and Ukranians were more overrepresented than Jews
How many diggers were Jewish?
>>134589083
>still waiting on that example
And I'm still waiting on you to stop being a Jewish faggot.
>>134586023
Literally compare Hong Kong's growth with any communist/socialist country and get fucked. You guys are deluded beyond belief.
>>134589085
Are you truly this stupid? There is no planning in market socialist economy where the workers own the means of production. Only when the society reaches post scarcity is planned economy a viable solution.
>>134576786
Pipe dreams will die.
>>134565406
>>134565406
>>134565406
>>134589083
*pre-Marx Communism
>>134588759
You guys are such retards. Please kill yourselves
puppet trump
trumppet
>>134589275
revolution is here. tight now
>>134589404
>what does "mostly" mean?
75%+ Jewish
Putin: First Soviet Government was Mostly Jewish
http://jpost.com/Jewish-World/Jewish-News/Putin-First-Soviet-government-was-mostly-Jewish-317150
http://archive.is/uNDV5
Putin: Soviet Government Was Mostly Jewish
https://youtube.com/watch?v=oIeYoF1VhHc
>The first Soviet government was not by any means majority Jewish
Of course it was.
>majority Jewish and Baltic ethnicities and Ukranians were more overrepresented than Jews
Who were Jews.
>>134589438
why are fascist so obsessed with the male body?
>>134588969
You're a self-employed plumber, right?
>>134576786
>communism general
Here we go again.
Staff Sergeant Kurt Hummel, Military Post Number L 31 605 Lg Pa. Paris, to his local group
Northern Russia, 12 August 1941
Bolshevist conditions are indescribable. I had never imagined that such misery was possible. People here know nothing about electric lights, radio, newspapers and the like. One can't call what they live in houses. There are only shanties with rotten straw roofs. Huge neglected fields lay around. We haven't yet found even a small shop. This is what people call the Soviet paradise. I wish the few outsiders who still remain in Germany could be shipped here. There is misery wherever one looks. One has to see it to realize how beautiful Germany is.
>>134589714
Why are you jewish commies so obsessed with destroying the white race?
>>134589083
The passage I cited makes a clear distinction between the State and private property/monies/etc. You really are being willfully dense or just don't know how to read from left to right.
Acts 2:44-45
>All the believers were together and had everything in common. 45 They sold property and possessions to give to anyone who had need (That is, to their brethren; as every man had need)
There is a reason this has been translated by scholars multiple times since KJ and it's funny how you tried to leave that last part out. They weren't just handing out things to anyone and everyone and this doesn't support your little socialism/commie ideologies. They were giving voluntarily within their in-group, not just giving randomly outward to citizens of the Roman Empire especially considering the type of hell-storm they were suffering under during the reign of Marcus Aurellius and later Commodus. Try again.
That's why there are schools to learn the context of this stuff and kids like you just throwing around verses to try and justify your idiocy are borderline intolerable and infantile.
>>134576786
Soldier Heinrich Stähr tells his work mates at the Hamburg Hochbahn A. G. about conditions frequently mentioned in other letters as well:
The roads. We in the infantry are probably the best judge of good and bad roads, since we have to march for kilometer after kilometer on them. Here too the Soviets haven't lifted a finger. The main roads are no better than field paths. Believe me, my dear comrades, the soldiers have had many a justifiable curse after marching 40 or 50 kilometers on such a road. Besides, it is 30-35 degrees C. in the shade, and huge clouds of dust make it almost impossible to breathe. Swamps, forests, and bad roads make military action unpleasant, but we keep moving forward.
Medical corporal Paul Lenz, Military Post Number 7 14 628 Posen, to the local group of the NSDAP, Arneburg:
Only a Jew can be a Bolshevist; for these bloodsuckers there is nothing better to be, for there is then nothing to stop them. Wherever one spits there is a Jew, whether in a city or a village. As far as I know (we asked the people, wanting to know the truth) not a single Jew ever worked in the workers' paradise. Even the smallest bloodsucker had a post with big privileges. He lived in the best buildings, if one can call them buildings. The real workers lived in small buildings, or better, in animal stalls, just like day laborers in old Russia. It makes no difference whether one is in a village or in a city like Minsk with over 300,000 inhabitants, the stalls are everywhere. Even before the war, most workers knew nothing but hunger, misery and slavery. Some may be interested to know that there were theaters, operas, etc., even big buildings for them, but only those with money got in, and they were the blood suckers and their lackeys.
Soldier Walter Sperath writes to the [NSDAP] county office Hamburg 6
Everything I have seen of the so-called workers' paradise is everything but lovely. One should send every citizen who even slightly criticizes our efforts here. He would thank the Führer and the movement that these conditions are not found in our Fatherland. Animals by us live in better conditions than the people here. Our successes so far have been great, and we will not stop until we have rooted out this evil root and branch, which will be a blessing for European culture and humanity.
>>134589714
Hitler was very effeminate man. When he took his drugs he would move his body like a female in his speeches.
>>134589872
Imagine what it was like before Commies started industrializing.
>>134590120
>literally believing every Jewish lie told about Hitler
I bet you even believe the Holocaust happened, don't you?
>>134590149
You know, for some reason I'm not a huge fan of Communist industrialization.
>>134589644
>75%+ Jewish
you know nothing of history
Poles, Latvians, Finns, Lithuanians, Ossetians and Estonians were all far more over represented than Jews in the Russian Revolution.
Yet nobody cries about "Finno-Bolshevism". Just mindless screeching about da jooz.
>>134590149
At least the Tsar never started famines on purpose.
Flyer W. M., Res.-Lazarett Salzlwedel to his Cell Leader Schroeder
I have seen the "wonderful workers' paradise" in the Soviet Union with all its terrible misery, and wish that those who thought differently could spend a few weeks here to see and experience what we have. The misery and horror of Bolshevism is terrible.
I hope that volunteering for our proud army may atone for my earlier sins, and that when I am back home, you, dear party member, will accept me as an honest person. In that hope, I send you my warmest greetings.
Heil Hitler!
signed W. M.
Corporal Otto Kien, Military Post Number 18, 756, to the Factory Leadership t the Conrad Scholtz Factory. Barmbeck
Russia, 8 August 1941
Anyone who earlier had different opinions of the Soviet Union is quickly cured of them here. The poverty is terrible. Not even the farmers have anything to eat. They beg from us. There are lice and filth everywhere. One has to be careful one doesn't get them from the inhabitants.
These people don't know anything else. They sit in their huts and remove lice from each other. They don't mind if anyone watches. I've had my fill of this workers' paradise. We'll be glad to be out of here. In the past we saw pictures of malnourished children. They were not exaggerated. One can't believe it if one hasn't been here.
>>134589352
The jews love the right wing. Right wingers are good goyim that support jewish banking usury and jewish ownership of major corporations. Its not a coincidence that most of right wing supports israel and leftist are pro palestine.
>>134590120
>>134590612
Neither did the commies.
Corporal J. F., Military Post Number 26,280 to his Local Group
In the Field, 3.8.41
What we have seen of the so-called Soviet paradise is worse than we ever imagined. Anyone back home who still has any doubts should come here. All his doubts will disappear. Everywhere we go, the people are happy to be freed from Bolshevism, and looks to the future with confidence. We soldiers can say to those back home that he [Hitler] saved Germany and all of Europe from the Red Army. The battle is hard, but we know what we are fighting for, and, confident of the Führer, we will win. In the hopes of a victorious return,
Heil Hitler
Corporal J. F.
>>134589460
>we'll just have normal markets
>but workers own the capital
holy shit, it's YOU who are stupid
>>134590931
*is
haha lel
>>134590564
>you know nothing of history
Said the Jewish Communist.
>Poles, Latvians, Finns, Lithuanians, Ossetians and Estonians were all far more over represented than Jews in the Russian Revolution.
Those are countries of origin. Jews are a race.
I've already posted more than enough evidence proving that Communism is Jewish.
>Poles, Latvians, Finns, Lithuanians, Ossetians and Estonians were all far more over represented than Jews in the Russian Revolution.
>Yet nobody cries about "Finno-Bolshevism"
Jews and Bolshevism
http://heretical.com/miscellx/bolshies.html
http://archive.is/it45j
Jewish Bolsheviks
https://youtube.com/watch?v=7lBtS_KBYec
>Just mindless screeching about da jooz.
So you're saying there's literally nothing wrong with the Jews?
You have no problem with Jewish infiltration of Communism?
>>134590735
>The jews love the right wing
The left and the right are two sides of the same jewish shekel.
>>134590931
Socialism = worker ownership of the means of production
What part did you not understand?
>>134590931
There's not even a way to enforce it, there are so many loopholes that it would be absurdly easy to form a capitalist business within his communist system.
Capitalist:
> "Name just one time socialism has in any form saved an economy"
Commie:
...
Realist:
Well maybe just once
> Zieg Heil!
>>134590735
It's funny that children like you try to keep up this meme when it's obvious you've never been to either Israel or Palestine yourself. Take a walk across the border sometime and laugh yourself silly when you realize how stupid you are; Palestine is literally shit-tier on par with poo in loos. You should see first hand what you're "supporting" which is base degeneracy and garbage piles taller than the average man on every street corner.
>>134589900
I didn't leave that out, the bible translation I found did
>implying state-churches didn't edit things in order to keep the peasants from crusading against the state
why don't you live in a voluntary Christian commune?
https://youtu.be/rfECPYfLRfQ
For anyone who wants to know how the communists treated their own civillians, skip to 5:35
>>134589900
>The passage I cited makes a clear distinction between the State and private property/monies/etc
the word property does not even appear in the text please provide some illuminating commentary
>>134591230
>The left and the right are two sides of the same jewish shekel
Communist want to gulag bankers and get rid of all shekels once and for all. Its direct opposition to judeo-capitalism that you not socialists defend.a
>>134591605
>Communist want to gulag bankers and get rid of all shekels once and for all
Not that you would be able to, what with the loopholes in your system.
>>134591259
Sieg Heil!
\o
>>134591245
Have you even thought your shitty system through? Ever wondered why socialist economists died out after the 1900s?
How about just not spouting buzzwords, and giving your definition of "market socialism," since it doesn't have economic planning, nor is it capitalism where workers own the capital
>>134591259
>debt (to jewish bankers) financed rearmament programs save an economy
You're worse than ancaps in understanding economics.
>>134591248
>not even way to enforce worker ownership
Please you are making this too easy for me.
>>134591230
did you not see the chart I posted, Jews are counted separately from other nationalities, how dense are you?
>So you're saying there's literally nothing wrong with the Jews?
yup, Trotsky wasn't the best guy but it wasn't because of his "Jewish DNA"
>You have no problem with Jewish infiltration of Communism?
how could I have a problem with something that doesn't exist
>>134591892
How are you going to stop the worker owned businesses from voluntarily trading for a profit? Hell, how would you even stop the workers from selling their time and labor in exchange for money?
>>134590149
>>134590120
>>134590211 (ch)
here we go crazy friends
http://chomikuj.pl/dudi_/Muzyka/The+Analogs/Trucizna/The+Analogs+-+Gdzie+si*c4*99+najeba*c4*87,53019332.mp3
>>134591892
>>134591724
here we go brothers!
>>134591949
>>134584612
>>134591475
Quit trying to move the goalposts now, child. Next time use your critical thinking skills so you don't have to cherry-pick shit and get BTFO. That translation isn't from any state-sponsored church. Try again.
Who said I was Christian to begin with? Don't try to slide away into some pseudo-character assassination when you get proven wrong. Maybe take a moment to consider your ignorance and realize why you are patently wrong instead of assuming things about an anonymous stranger. You're the epitome of some wannabe-smug douche 18 year old who thinks he knows everything and can't fathom the thought of being incorrect.
>when the captcha is also your intended response to the thread
get in the helicopter commies
>NOT REAL COMMUNISM
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Reminder that the Decree against Communism is a thing.
>>134592158
Don't worry, Poland. Nobody wants to deal with Polish nationalist egoism and narcissism.
>>134592524
We are very much aware of the Catholic Church's crimes.
http://www.socialism.com/drupal-6.8/articles/pope-francis-catholic-church-and-argentina%E2%80%99s-%E2%80%9Cdirty-war%E2%80%9D
>Among the best known accusers were two of Bergoglio’s former teachers, Orlando Yorio and Francisco Jalics, Jesuits who were determined to work in the slums of Buenos Aires and interact with leftists who were doing the same. When they rejected Bergoglio’s orders to stop their work, he kicked them out of the Jesuit order. Shortly thereafter they and six parishioners were kidnapped by junta thugs. The priests were tortured for several months and then dumped on the roadside. The six lay Catholics were disappeared. Yorio declared in the first trial of junta leaders in 1985, “I am sure that he himself [Bergoglio] gave over the list with our names to the Navy.”
>>134592545
i luv you so much, you dot even now : *
come on !! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLhu0xnc5Q4
>>134591695
>Have you even thought your shitty system through?
No never. I just came up with this shit not after thousands of hours of reading economics and debating other communists.
>Ever wondered why socialist economists died out after the 1900s?
Planned economy. There needs to be advanced technology and material conditions for a planned economy to be able to compete with capitalistic economies. Market socialist systems could easily win them in their own game.
>How about just not spouting buzzwords,
Goddamn i hate this meme.
>and giving your definition of "market socialism," since it doesn't have economic planning, nor is it capitalism where workers own the capital
Its a model that works already inside capitalist economy in the many worker owned co-operatives.
>>134592827
>Market socialist systems could easily win them in their own game.
Market socialist systems will inevitably fail, as you fellow communist friends have told me. They have all the same problems that capitalist systems have.
>>134576786
My one question for any communist is what do you do if someone chooses not to work? Are they still entitled to whatever is provided for them by the group? Or is that what the gulags are for?
>>134576786
>Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.
Pretty fucking sure communism follows the socialist stage, not the capitalist stage.
>To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state
>socialist state
Oh look, I'm right. You can't even talk properly abotu your own ideology. Communists are a joke.
>>134592133
>How are you going to stop the worker owned businesses from voluntarily trading for a profit?
What the hell? Workers own the means of production and keep the profit. Its made from their labor and they are the only ones deserving to keep the surplus value.
>Hell, how would you even stop the workers from selling their time and labor in exchange for money?
The state enforces that the capitalists cant leech from the workers labor.
Workers can form cooperatives or be entrepreneurs individually so all the surplus value goes to the worker.
>>134592256
Holy fuck! so much butthurt
Where did you get your translation?
Why so fucking butthurt?
If you are not a christian just say so and stop arguing biblical quotes, if they have no meaning to your life why get into internet arguments about them?
>You're the epitome of some wannabe-smug douche 18 year old who thinks he knows everything and can't fathom the thought of being incorrect.
says the guy who unironically posts
>pseudo-character assasination
don't worry kiddo I am sure Alabama State will accept your application
>>134592827
Who would start businesses if the state won't do it and whoever starts one isn't allowed to enjoy any economic gains?
Half the people in here are probably using Apple devices.
Get a job
>>134593472
>>134593472
>>134593382
cmon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0c_dv0TUmU
>>134593472
>The state enforces that the capitalists cant leech from the workers labor.
But if the workers do it voluntarily and the owner does it voluntarily it would be absurdly difficult to stop them, heck they could just not tell you that they're doing it and you would never know.
>What the hell? Workers own the means of production and keep the profit.
Sorry, I was arguing with a communist the other day who said that market socialism could never work, only a planned economy, so I assumed you were like him. You guys really need more flags to differentiate yourselves.
>>134592995
It has the same flaws as any other market system and state intervention is needed in economic depressions.
>>134593647
We learned from past Communist regimes (USSR China Cuba), state central planers will never refrain from power.
The natural course for Communism, if done right, would be anarchy followed by libertarianism. We know now humans are incapable of getting beyond fear, pride and greed.
If a form of Fascism were devised to control the population in various aspect, ala Brave New World, the human race could do well and prosper for a 1000 years or more, depends on any unforeseen catastrophe(s). However, in order to move in that direction what has come form the past that is no longer useful and unable to evolve would have to be eliminated. This notion bothers a good number of people, but one way or the other it will eventually happen.
From that point onward, Communism overall wouldn't work because it tends to rule from the bottom up - low IQ, your society is never at its best.
An Oligarchy is out, as is Democracy - obvious reasons, greed and mob rule.
A Fascist Republic is probably best provided its power is limited and secured by the Bill of Rights. We could probably tweak that a bit too.
What is best now is separation cultures and dividing the races - any mixing has to occur naturally or it will create endless conflict, like it is now.
evolution doesn't happen overnight - we might be ready as one whole species by the time we lose the little toe, until then secure your borders and stick to your own kind for a nice peaceful life.
However, if killing is desired, should start by killing those who desired to kill, then all the pedos and then put down the mentally unstable at least until science catched up to fix these people.
>communism
>>134593559
I don't agree with market socialism, in communism people would produce things because they need it and have the ability to do so
why would anybody ever innovate or automate things? creative drive and the desire for more time off
>>134579564
You also have /leftypol/, so go back there carlos.
>>134593865
https://youtu.be/MYp_gJQwRx8
>>134593744
>But if the workers do it voluntarily and the owner does it voluntarily it would be absurdly difficult to stop them, heck they could just not tell you that they're doing it and you would never know.
Wage labor for a capitalist would be illegal but workers would be free to work individually or collectively with cooperative ownership of the means of production.
>Sorry, I was arguing with a communist the other day who said that market socialism could never work,
He was a fucking idiot that does more harm to working class than any liberal or nazi.
>only a planned economy, so I assumed you were like him.
Planned economy is the end goal of socialism but it needs to be implemented carefully so we dont make the same mistakes that we did in the 20th century.
>You guys really need more flags to differentiate yourselves.
We have in /leftypol/ many different flags for many different communists.
>>134593544
>but b-b-butthurt! HAha! Right guize?!
>degenerate name-calling and no actual rebuttal
This isn't /b/, kid. If you don't know what you believe and why you believe it just stop making yourself look uneducated and give it up honestly.
>>134593472
>Workers own the means of production and keep the profit.
So no investments unless every worker agrees to one.
>Workers can form cooperatives or be entrepreneurs individually so all the surplus value goes to the worker.
This is nowhere near as efficient as capitalism. To start a cooperative, you need to have all the workers hired in advance (if you hire new ones after establishing the cooperative, you have to cut him in in order to not "leech" off of him. This doesn't exactly support having new workers come in). The cooperative's founders would need to know beforehand how big a share each of them is entitled to, for there's not an objective measure (in most cases) for measuring it on the spot, while producing commodities. Transactions costs would also be enormous; think of all the negotiation that is needed for all workers to agree on the distribution of income.
>>134594107
The market is not just about guys like Edison innovating. The market system signals a need for resources in a certain area of the economy by higher yields. If starting a cooperative isn't an activity equipped with that natural market signal, how would anyone know that investment is needed in that certain sector?
Saged
>>134577722
>The USSR is a socialist state, not a communist state.
Well yeah, that's because they collapsed before they implemented communism fully.
>>134594724
for you my frined, ;;listen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2fz0nKG9NU
>>134595173
>So no investments unless every worker agrees to one.
Its in their interest to get money for investment from state owned banking sector. Workers would keep their money in state owned bank and the state bank loans money for investments.
>This is nowhere near as efficient as capitalism. To start a cooperative, you need to have all the workers hired in advance (if you hire new ones after establishing the cooperative, you have to cut him in in order to not "leech" off of him. This doesn't exactly support having new workers come in). The cooperative's founders would need to know beforehand how big a share each of them is entitled to, for there's not an objective measure (in most cases) for measuring it on the spot, while producing commodities. Transactions costs would also be enormous; think of all the negotiation that is needed for all workers to agree on the distribution of income
The deals would be made locally between the workers. The cooperatives that cant meet the demands of the market would fall out of competition until the most efficient are left.
>>134595974
Sounds good. It was all worth it. If only have had not betrayed us.