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Why does the world not talk about the first world war?

In the west we constantly wank and suck ourselves off over WW2 and Pat each other on the back but no one ever wants to talk about world war one. No one even bother to teach it in schools either.

Why is this?
Was it just so vile and shameful?
Did nobody win?
Are we all concious of how bad it fucked up the world but never bother to admit it?

Also why is it so aesthetic?
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>>134575214
We talk about how it basically caused ww2
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>WWI
>more aesthetic than WWII
please
>>>/wsg/1791060
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>>134575214
i have no idea what you are talking about, i have been learning about ww1 since 7th grade lel
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>>134575214
Another a*glo atrocity.
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>>134575273
>basically
>BASICALLY
Are you serious?
The Polish corridor was THE ONLY REASON WWII started in the first place and it within itself was an issue with the Treaties of Versailles moving the borders to make the city of Danzig Polish territory even though all the citizens were proud German citizens.
Poland got what was coming to them.
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>>134575214
only the countries that jumped in later won i guess because they to the least damage Romania is one that comes to mind and US build its arms industry on the war gave loans to both sides
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Nobody talks about it because of this guy.
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>>134575762
I wouldn't say thts the only reason. Hitler was demanding land from everyone. It was just because the Polish didnt give in like everyone else did. If they gave in, Hitler wouldve kept demanding land from other people until someone finally had enough.
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>>134575821
Jews will be Jews
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>>134575214

there is lots of coverage of world war 1 on the BBC
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>>134575214
pic related basically
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>>134575560
I don't know about you but every single time I learned about it from 5th grade it was
>uSA USA USA USA
>Muh lucitania
>Muh Versailles
>Muh league of Nations

Hell 5th grade seed the only time a teacher bothered to focus on it
>Learned it wasn't all muskets and cannon balls
>To children teacher described the horros of flame thrower gas and Verdun
>To kids
>Learn about Kaiserschlact
>What the Soviets did to the royal family
>League of nations was set up but was entirely impotent without the USA being apart of it
>Woodrow Wilson basically had a mental breakdown following the end of the war
>Something about tribes in the middle East being arbritairly divided into modern Iraq Syria turkey and Iran thanks to the Brits and france turning their backs on the Bedouin tribes.
>No one ever taught it in more debt and infact was less detailed to people with greater mental development with age.
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>>134575214
it was a looooong time off, and most people could give a fuck even though it began the cascade of events leading to the cluster fuck we call today.
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>>134576081
Because those kikes made that shitty treaty that nobody followed (look up the nations that actually disarmed) that told Poland this was their territory. Hitler didn't demand shit he negotiated for over 6 years with Poland. Even allowing them to keep the land, resource and territorial rights in exchange for the citizens being allowed to call themselves Germans. Poland denied then later started to oppress the German citizens by burning their farms and raping their women.
I repeat. Poland got what was coming to them. The other nations had no business getting involved.
Historians the world over agree WWII started because of the Polish Corridor. Attend a lecture sometime for christ sake.
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>>134576253
>>134575585
Is the eternal anglo meme a JIDF psy-op to try and hijack the truth that is the eternal Jew?
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>>134576081
Hitler was reunifying German people. He hated the French, with good fucking reason. He would have eventually invaded Bolshevik Russia, but did not want war with US and UK. He was foolish for thinking tptb (Jews) wouldn't have found a reason to eventually intervene. Poland was the easy in.
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Because the whole dn thing was pointless. Avenging Archduke Franz Ferdinand was not worth the deaths that the war caused.
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It was the greatest mistake of the white man; our grandest error.

The worst of all the problems we face today can be traced back to the First World War. We avoid this topic because it is, admittedly, incredibly shameful.
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>>134576957
*Damn
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The last war in wich the French were competent
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>>134575214
ww1 gave birth to communism and respect that. without it our movement wouldve never got off the ground. so thank the allies for creatign the greatest political ideology of all time

now wit that we will use communism to destroy white suprmemist capitalism and create a more unified world without war and starvation.
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>>134576957
it was long time coming that war the murder of the Archduke was just an good casus belli
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If anyone is really interested into learning about WWI in great detail, there's a really good youtube channel called The Great War. They follow the war week by week, exactly 100 years ago. They also have specials where they go into greater detail about all kinds of things. Very interesting.

Here's the most recent weekly episode:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=286aZvaFGQE
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>>134575214
bumpity bump for history
and if there is a comprehensive learning program i'd do it
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>>134577537
not really you were pretty good in ww2 you just got outmaneuvered funny charles de gaulle was talking about the same tactics

ps thanks for sending him over
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>>134577717
Love them.

Here's a great series from BBC with sad music. Really good series.

https://youtu.be/6_uljaIkiYI
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>>134577717
best thing on youtube that and Military History
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>>134575214
It's pretty obvious isn't it? Muh 6 gorillion
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>>134575214
We (central powers) should have won...
And you should have stayed out of it.
The world would be a better place
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>>134578553
and the "good vs evil" thing
someone post the brainmeme
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>>134577537
You had plenty of competent people in WW2.

It's just that half of them were competent in a style of warfare that had been irrelevant for twenty years, and the other half didn't get a say.
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>>134577993
You should check out the book Price of Glory

It details the battle of Verdun from start to finish detailing how absolutely fuck it was.
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Reasons WWI sucked:

Germans couldn't solve trench warfare.
Austrians and Italians were equally terrible.
Russia imploded and we got commies out of it.
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>>134577552
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>>134575214
Because only goyim died
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>>134575214
someone pls post the feels story from the trenches when that german soldier took another ones mask to safe himself from gas.
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>>134579738
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WWI was the first move by the Zionists to destroy rule by the bloodlines of the people and replace it by rule by finance (controlled by the Zionist bankers). WWII was just a continuation of this. This century-long war continues today, as the Zionists prepare to step out from the shadows and sit upon the the world's thrones themselves - as they have forever coveted.
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Ww1 was just scary. The battlefields looked like some Martian landscape
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>>134580837
"HELL"

Painted from memory during Verdun
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>>134575214
We learn all about it here, in a relatively unbiased way.
Get educated brown-burgers
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>>134580796
Wew
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>>134580837
If you read price of Glory there's accounts of soldiers losing their minds from thirst during drum fire then running out into craters to drink water that's infused with mud, blood, shit and piss, and with a layer of chemical sludge from gas attacks.

French reinforcements during Verdun died just trying to get to the front line, falling into craters and drowning in the efluent below.

Horrific.
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>>134580796
Imagine being this balls deep into arbitrary conspiracies instead of looking at the logocal reasons past events happend
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>>134577717
A fun but depressing little flash game

http://armorgames.com/play/2267/warfare-1917
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>>134581046
>LIONS
>DONKEYS
>SOLDIERS SHOT ON A DAILY BASIS FOR MINOR INFRACTIONS
>INCOMPETENCE
>LIONS DONKEYS
>POINTLESS
>NO ONE KNEW WHAT THEY WERE DOING
>DONKEYS
>READ THESE POEMS
>WATCH BLACKADDER GOYIM

Yeah alright
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People like to feel righteous about WW2, in retrospect most people agree that there was a "good" and "bad" side. The allies had to fight to stop Germany's expanse, and they achieved that goal, regardless of the horrors of the war.

WW1 didn't really achieve anything. It was noblemen playing at war with their fancy new equipment and being utterly out of touch with the reality of "modern" war, leading to unprecedented industrial scale slaughter and the breakdown of lots of the old notions about honor and glory in combat.

Not to mention just how excruciatingly bad the conditions were. Millions of men being annihilated over what? A couple of miles of farmland that's now toxic anyway because of the heavy metal pollution in it.

I would gladly charge into medieval pitched battle to my death if the other option was rotting alive in a freezing trench for months whilst being constantly bombarded by artillery.
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>>134581815
>Vast simplifications used to teach younger children.
WEW
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>>134575214
The massive loss of life was stupid. Some people made money. In the end it was just really dum and people realise how fucking retardet it was killing millions because of nothing. Europe just got fucked hard and realise they where fighting for nothing
>tips hat and sell you a can of rats
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>>134581815
the Donkey part is quite unfair plenty of generals killed in combat 58 british i believe and that was a sign of a bit of pride leading from the front
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>>134581975
They spent one week out of each month at the trench. It went front line, rear, support, rest, front. You had much, much higher odds of surviving WW1 regardless of role than any medieval battle.

In the western allies, and among most other armies, they were fully aware of "modern" war. They understood it, worked with it and did the best they could with the hand they were dealt. The idea that they had no clue what they were doing is one that comes from GCSE history text books and other people who have it in for Imperial Britain. There are exceptions; mostly of a Slavic or Ottoman nature, but by and large the officers and soldiers of the Great War had a far more sophisticated understanding of what they were doing than in most other instances.
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>>134575214
Because nobody killed 600 trillions of jews, so they cant make profit from it
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>>134582376
I think it's less saying that the leaders were cowardly, and more that they were just dumb. Or at least, out of touch with the impact of modern weapons on their old tactics.

When you have cavalry charging machine gun nests you know there's been a lapse of judgment somewhere along the line.
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>>134576436
>League of nations was set up but was entirely impotent without the USA being apart of it

Isn't this that institution that was championed by america, who mostly begged the world to join?

Isn't it that thing Wilson brought with twelve points to the French president who then laughed at his face and said:

"Mon Dieu! Even God only asked us to obbey the 10 comandments."

Burger education is real.
But we don't get much better in Europe so... one has to educate oneself.

The Christmas truce of that war is legendary though.
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>>134576632
The Jew meme was invented by AIDF so we will forget about The Anglos
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>>134578107

How come the French were good in WWII?

Do you mean they were good for Romanian standards?
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>>134582376
It is absolutely unfair, and is a major gripe of mine. You were more likely to be killed as a junior officer than as an enlisted man. Only at the rank of Major did it start to balance out.

>>134582268
They shouldn't bother at all. It's propaganda, plain and simple.
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>>134577552

What are your thoughts on Venezuela?
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>>134582607
If I recall correctly, he campaigned hard on it throughout Europe then was shocked and appalled by the treaty of Versailles and complete disregard for his twelve points. Then when he went home he again campaigned hard for the US to join and Congress didn't want to do it exactly how he wanted and basically had his party torpedo it because he was a meglomaniac with this vision of himself as a white knight to save the world.

That's my take.
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>>134582592
Based on what? What else would you have your cavalry do?

In 1916 a horse was faster than any car, could traverse through any terrain you threw at it, was largely immune to the weather and had a crew of 1. You could put the animals to work, and if they died cleanly they could in an emergency be used food. The Germans kept this going until the Second World War, and smaller/irregular forces have kept it up since.

The perception of staff officers of the war is entirely based on plain lies.
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>>134582794
i often find that its almost becomes a sort of class warfare the lazy nobles sending the poor workers to die that is why i am suspicious
also funny thing it was considered cowardly for british officers to duck they could take cover but when in the open had to stay tall
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>>134583045

Pretty much correct.
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>>134582792
plenty of good modern weapons better than german ones in some cases so no by romanian standards
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>>134575214
all i got taught about this war is trenches are very spooky
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>>134576632
No, the Anglo is literally and truly the cause of all wrong in the world. Thank God we broke away from them in our war (I just wish that we broke economic links too and spoke French as well). If we didn't we would have been forced to be fodder in Gallipoli like invasions and never expand past the Appalachians.

You see, the Anglo caused the brutality of many wars and removal of European powers. The Anglo destroyed the Spanish empire (seriously look up how they planned to steal Spanish colonies after the Napoleonic wars, classic Anglo strategy), and caused the destruction of France multiple times! Then to make matters worse, the beady bastards would often betray their allies as well. Germany was a British ally until they grew in strength and the British plotted the elaborate backstab by allying France in a defensive alliance against Germany. They also had the nerve and lack of any emotional sensibility to betray the proud Portuguese people and make a ultimatum for a strip of African land or else (similar to a cause for another war, maybe Danzig, typical English perfidious nature).

Never trust an Anglo. Ever!
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>>134583098

Just a curiosity, I remember reading some time ago the requirements for a Lusitanian horse in proper shape to be used by some side of the forces in the Civil War during the early XIX century.
They required the horse to be able to make 50Kms non stop in about two hours or so.

Also, I know nothing of horses.
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>>134583410

Oh yes. They had grade A equipment.
And the Maginot line was a legendary fortification.
They also mannaged to mostly stop the Italians.
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>>134582792
There were people in the French administration and command who wanted to restructure the order of battle and rethink their military doctrine in a way that would have allowed them to counter a German offensive.
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>>134583771
the Maginot line was high tech and they had the plans to improve it and french tanks were superior to german ones if they did not have the czech 38t
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>>134583385
Always makes me sad because if he hadn't been such a little cuck and the French and British not faggots, we could have gotten a decent treaty that would have not allowed the conditions to give rise to WW2.

Everyone goes
>Literally kill baby Hitler
But they forget that he only rose to power because of the conditions beset upon Germany by the allies of world war one being complete shit heads.
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>>134584057
>>134583771
this was one of their best
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>>134584151
>>134584057
>MFW half the production run of both tanks fell into Axis hands
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It's too complex for your average person. In leaf land we talk about the battles but that's it, the cause and results of the war are only given in an extreme simplified sense.
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>>134584285
plenty of other tanks but really does not matter they were good tanks and the axis could not even get to were it was without using massive amounts of captured weapons and armor of all kinds
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>>134582878
its a country standing up to imperialistic capitalism. and its failing is only due to white supremist capitalism putting embargos and other restrictions on them. dispite them never attacking another country. you see white supremist imperialistic captialism does this. they claim a country like North korea or iran are dangerous even tho these countries have never invade anyone. these countries are seen as a political threat and it scares white imperialism. in other words they need fake enemies to justify exploiting poor nations. capitalism leeches off poor and helpless societies
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>>134583568

Basically, they are good people.

Keep in mind that the British strategy is to never allow a dominant power in Europe. They are like the thunder of Jupiter that will destroy the mighty and arrogant.

About the ultimatum:
We wanted to keep the territory between Angola and Mozambique, namely Rhodesia and some other shit.
The Brits did not want that, and we knew it.
We had little capability to effectively control and colonise the area but that was not really the problem.

The Brits wanted the French and mainly the Germans to get as fewer colonies as possible.
Then emerges the problem of the Congo.
Of course, no European power would be able to effectively colonise that huge territory, but who ever controled it would have an imense wealth of resources.
The English wanted us to have Congo. We wanted to have Congo but were more interested in Rhodesia (easier to colonise and it would create an axis of Portuguese colonies in Africa that would be rather "centralised". Also, our troops had already "pacified" some tribes in the region and our explorers had made a huge effort to chart the area).

Also, we had already Christianised part of the Congo, had relations with them and their Kings had Portuguese names already.

The British campaigned hard for us to get the Congo. It ended up in the hands of the Belgian King. It is unthinkable that such a joke of a country as Belgium would get colonies in Africa... what about the Congo!

Anyway, we pushed for the control of Rhodesia and the English eventually send us the ultimatum. I do not blame him. Too much shit was going on with our elites finding a new French orientation.

I blame the English, and their "Whig" government for interveining in the "wrong" side of our civil war. But I honestly don't know much about it. I consider a betrayal more of the "whig/labour" party than of the English as a Nation. But that quadruple alliance shit was ugly.
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the problems of world war one have already been addressed with the advent of hitler
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>>134584151

Thanks, Ovidiu.
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>>134575214

>Commies won't talk about it because they undermined Russia and accepted a terrible peace treaty
>Wehraboos won't talk about it because it was 4 years of stalemate for Germany until it finally collapsed
>Anglos won't talk about it because it's hard to sell as the battle between good and evil
>Burgers won't talk about it because they barely showed up
>Jews won't talk about it because no 6 gorillion

I think WW1 is important to the French, though.
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>>134575214
We did, but it wasn't well explained and was blamed on Muh nationalism is bad
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>>134575214
>Why does the world not talk about the first world war?

so... you consider you inner circle "the world"?
typical case of american narrow-mindedness

People talk about it all the fucking time over here
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>>134584622
It's a shame they weren't employed properly. French tactics in 1940 assumed the German invasion would be another WWI and they didn't pay attention to how Poland and the Low Countries were beaten.

It's interesting to see how the captured vehicles were modified too. Romania had some of the most outdated tanks by 1942 so they had to come up with some pretty interesting designs their limited industry could build.
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>>134584660

The people of Venezuela are starving and have little acess to medication. Besides the violence, there are stupid deaths everyday out of "economical disfunction".

Yes, the poor of Venezuela were better off with this system, but look where it lead them.

I hope they get overthrown and are made an example.

Too many people here had big dollar business with the "Bolivarian" elite of Venezuela.

I fail to comprehend how someone can defend such a sorry regime.
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>>134575214
>Why does the world not talk about the first world war?

Do you not in America?

We certainly do in New Zealand, and I imagine our ANZAC brothers in Australia do too.

WW1 was big shit for us, even though we were on the other side of the planet. Being a small country, we lost a larger proportion of our population, and we were a young country, still very connected to and proud to fight for the British Empire.

The fact the ANZACs got butchered at Gallipoli is a big part of the remembrance and ANZAC Day is one of our major holidays.
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>>134575214
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4Pd527GN48
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>>134584660
What oppressed race and gender are you brother comrad?
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>>134576598
>then later started to oppress the >German citizens by burning their farms >and raping their women.
Citation needed
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>>134575214
Best mele weapon was sabre! OHK every time. Able heal self AND replenish munitions! So great.
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>>134584979
yes our main weapons supply came from france and the czech so you see our problem
fun fact we used to call tanks war chariots and that says chariot hunter
here is a tank hunter we made before the hetzer
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>>134581624
Whether that's conspiracy or not, the portion about bloodlines has a significant nugget of truth. The death totals of WW1 hover around 18 million with 11 million being military. Millions of Europe's best & brightest marched off to what was essentially a genocide in the pastures of Europe. Many of these men were quite young and never bred or had the chance to breed again. Their individual genes, capabilities & potential lifetimes of contributing to society were lost forever & buried in the pastures of Europe.

Make no mistake, Europe's genetic destiny was forever altered, indeed damaged. This was carnage on a scale equaled by the Huns. The world is considerably different because of this war and the natural trajectory of the European gene pool was changed massively by what was a man made catastrophe.
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>>134583098
Scout, screen and act as a mobile reserve to exploit breakthroughs and counter breakthroughs by their opponent. But charge machine guns and artillery fire? No.
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>>134585517
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>>134575949
Mustafa Kamal? Why?
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>>134585517
Too bad King Michael cucked out and joined the Soviets. Didn't work out to well for him in the long run. Hitler should have invested a lot more in Romania because Germany could not afford to lose the Ploesti oilfields when they failed to take the ones in the Caucasus.
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>>134585825
He is the mastermind behind the Gallipoli defense.
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>>134585085
the captialists at opec are making sure the price of oil is down. this isn't the "free market at work" its purposely done by capitalists to kill its competition. so you can't say people are starving "cuz communism don't work hurr" its because capitalists are doing what they always have done... by using violence to kill its competition. white suprememist capitalism always does this. just look at the hisotry of cuba they have been exploited for decades then they get theire indepenence and till this day. cuba is considered an "enemy of freedome' even though they have higher life expectancy and the best medical care in the world.

sorry but capitalism is the cancer kiling the world

WORKERS UNITE!!!!!!!!!
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>>134585865
Germany refused to give aircraft engines to Italians provide weapons without pay to Hungarians and at least modern weapons to Romanians and Fins sure they arent the industrial power of the US that gave tanks to soviets for basically free but damn at least let us buy them and make some for ourself
another fun fact all that oil we did not see a coin for that germany still had money to give us until a few ears when we droped the ideia
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>>134586248
Hitler didn't remove enough Jews from the German weapon industry from the looks of it. The Axis could have prolonged the war by a few more decades if Krupp and co weren't so anal with their patents.
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>>134586524
i think at this point they were taking in some of the jew traits on themselfs i mean fuck tell italians about Radar after cape matapan really nice guys
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>>134575214
letting the goyim learn the truth about WW1 would be too much a redpill(hey goys guess what, less than 100 years ago you were living in culturally superior empires under the rule of hereditary monarchs until WE fucked everything up FOREVER) best just keep reiterating the point of that questionable number of Jews who died during WWII
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>>134586740
Italy could have achieved Mare Nostrum with radar and their battleships wouldn't have gotten sunken in port by fucking biplanes.
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>>134576081
Hitler was peacefully uniting lands. Polish people would have voted to do the same if Jewish communists hadn't started attacking voter housing and burning down polling places.
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>>134585561
Both saddening and infuriating.
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>>134577717
>>134578186
>>134578217
>>134581652
Don't forget '37 days'. A bit anglocentric, but still a very good (mini)series
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>>134586828
/thread
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>>134577717
Dan Carlins podcast on WWI is also top notch.
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>>134583568
And we will not stop till every last man, woman and child is placed well and firmly beneath the heels of our boots.

The age of the Aryan is over. The Age of the Anglo is here.
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>>134576081
About an hour before the invasion began, Poland actually did give in to the demands and offer Danzig, but Hitler ignored it because he found an excuse to take all of all of west Poland.
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>>134586969
yes probably but after that they were to timid to go out of port for fear of getting sunk
and in the mean time allies are sharing tech tanks planes even tho they fucking hate the soviets and all for free

in stalingrad romanians first were not supposed to be there neither the germans but
they had one fox hole every 20 meters or so and one man in each with 120 rounds and two grenades
the veterans said the russians could have come at us with no rifles in hand and still we could not stop them you shoot one work the bolt and the other one behind him gets closer
we have stories of soldiers fighting t34 with a sledgehammer dont get me started how shitty allies they were
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>>134585561
Reading journals and letters from common soldiers confirms this. These people were god damned warrior poets. They wrote beautifully and referenced esoteric mythology that few people today have even heard of.

Their strong sense of duty and trust in their leaders were both horribly bastardized and taken advantage of, and it's unforgivable. A real holocaust can't come soon enough for those conniving manipulators.
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>>134575214
WW1 is super boring, no one cares about it.
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>>134575214
I agree. Ww1 is much more interesting to me than ww2. I have loads off ww1 shit including a helmet and a luger
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>>134587695
i wonder (((who))) was behind this post
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I have a huge interest in WW1. I own some weapons, equipment, and trench art.

It was the war that doomed the West to liberal democracy. Had it been avoided it is likely the Empires would have survived.

No EU, no USSR.
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>>134582794
Do you have a source for that officer/enlisted mortality rates? Interested, not doubting
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It's an unfinished war cont'd onto WW2, and muriccans didn't do anything major.
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>>134585561
You mean those same young men who helped in teh butcher of africa? or those same young men who were willing to oppress POC. to be frank with you and keep it 100.. fuck those bastards. those boys were kiling machines for white imperialitic capitalism and them dying only done better for the world. only if the world wouldve realized white imperialitic capitalism was a desease destroying the world. then these young men couldve done something. instead they join the army and wanted to kill other humans. im sorry but if you haven't notice that the only good guys in teh war were the bolsheviks. they killed tha bastard nicolas 2 and helped make russia into a world power.

fuck those dead pussies. soldiers of white western capitalismistic imperaials are trash
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>>134587695
It really isn't tho.

Go play bf1 and then tell me it was boring
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>>134587976
Don't cut yourself on that edge comrade.
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>>134587976
i wish they just killed all of the nonwhites
i think there was a point in time where this might have been within our reach, we could have secured the future for white children, we could have truly secured it if we just purged the unclean races from the earth when we had the chance
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>>134587966
Woodrow Wilson fucked over Germany pretty hard. Not like common Americans had any say in this though. Our government hasn't been by, of, or for its people since Theodore Roosevelt.
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>>134588152
Hindsight is 20/20.

Hey at least we have twerking now!
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>>134588231
does Roosevelt has any living relatives?
he was a badass his oldest son was on Utah beach
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>repressing Prussian militarism
>November Criminals.
>Malignant Anglo Empires (US, Britain)
>Black Horror
>Germanophobia
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>>134586050

Cuba does not have a high life expectancy.

Venezuela's problem is not the low price of crude. It's problem is its reliance in one export only like a good banana republic.
That is basically the "economical disfunction" I was talking about.
And it's not just this disfunction, there are many others.

Venezuela had everything to be a rich country.
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If we just seized control of germany none of this would've happened
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4Pd527GN48
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>>134588231
Pfft. Try since Jackson
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Their first strike. Then, degeneracy (Weimar). Finally, global destruction of warrior cultures.
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>>134585561

Basically, shit happens.

What's new? WWII was even worse.

And I fear what's coming.
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>>134577717
>>134578217
>>134578186
what's the best ww2 youtube channel?
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>>134581815
Did you finish school lad?
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>>134587592

... interesting.
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>>134576081
Bluepilled the comment
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>>134588718
to me Military History Visualized removes some of the myths of ww2 and kinda gives insight
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>>134577552
In case any fucktard SJW burger takes this seriously. My parents grew up in the oh so glorious USSR communism where everyone was equally fucking poor.
Empty store shelves or otherwise full of overproduced rubbish that's unwanted by literally everyone like tons upon tons of the exact same shoe in different sizes.
Massively long lines of people just to buy some food to survive. Kolhoz farms that either failed to produce anything or whatever was produced never ended up on the plate of the workers themselves, instead the workers before finally getting any rest would go to their small gardens to do yet more work just for some food to actually live off of.

Owning a car was a luxury of all luxuries and even bicycles were uncommon, certainly not like any parent could buy a little bike for their kid whenever they felt like it. In fact most kids were lucky to ever get to learn cycling when someone shared a bicycle with them.

Traveling was very restricted even within the USSR and to ever get out beyond the iron curtain you'd have to grease more hands than muricans greased gooks in Vietnam.

Every man had to serve in the military and only those who managed to get into higher education were spared the full standard service term instead getting a cut down version. And serving in the USSR military was little better than being in a murican prison surrounded by thugs.

The government forced Russian as the official language throughout the union and the occupied territories since the end of the war were all subjected to massive deportation of locals over to Siberia and often to gulag work camps while in their place in far larger numbers came or rather were forcefully imported immigrants as the new work force. These immigrants came from all over Asia and ended up race mixing with much of the leftover locals further destroying the original people genetically and culturally.


In short the only good commie is a dead commie.
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>>134575214
Nothing interesting happend in WW1, possibly the coolest thing was Battle of Jutland. Other than that it's just mindless trench warfare and artillery barrages.
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>>134584843
Trianon was a mistake.
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>>134588452
Venezuela has very little oil left, and not much else to export. They do have a lot (app. 1,000,000,000,000 barrels) of low quality tar.
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The Great War series on YouTube by Indie Neidell is really well done and the week by week format gives a good sense of pacing. They cover lesser known stuff (ie things beside the western front) so you get the "world" war aspect.
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>>134588820
oh man is frustrating to read how germany and germans were ubermensch who could do no wrong if only their allies were as superior as them and brave they would have never been defeated
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>>134588932
the eastern front had mobility and its not just that
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>>134589348
Balkan front, Middle east front, and African fronts also get no attention.

Trenches were actually not the norm despite popular imagination.
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>>134584660
You realize that Marx thought most shitskins were inferior right?
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>>134589091
Never heard of this but looks good.
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>9000 hours in a trench
>lose 10k soldiers to advance 50 meters
>repeat ad infinitum
>Pseudo Status Quo Ante Bellum, as it basically achieved nothing but fucking Germany
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>>134589666
i recomend you watch it its really nice seen all the videos
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>>134588932
WW1 produced modern infantry tactics. Fire-teams and brigades taking over as the standard infantry unit are all WW1 innovations.
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>>134587976
Reminder: commie trash hangs first on day of the rope
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>>134589574
and the Italian front but outside the western front no attention and its a bit of a shame
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>>134588718
I really like world at war, bbc documentary. It's really good with tonnes of great footage and first hand interviews.
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>>134588904
This.
Of course communism creates equality. Everybody is equally fucking poor and starving.
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>>134578744
Filthy goyim.
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>>134589691
it was more than that that was just the western front also soldiers at least the entente were not always at the front units would go behind lines for R&R they were rotated
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ww1 was inevitable so was ww2
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WW1 was the worst thing to happen to Europe since the Black Plague.

We don't hear about it because Jews didn't die in it.
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>>134589919
looking at the number of antifa.. you guys will be the first to hang. all you fucking facist and libertarians will not last a day in the comming communism. teh workers of the world are gettign fed up with getting raped and exploited by white supremeist imperialistic racist CAPTIALISM. when the non whites take over white countries. this will be the end of white suprmemacy. Africa can finally recover from decades of exploitations. the POC aroudn the world will no longer be oppressed by capitalism and all its fuck shit
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>>134590797
Top larp
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>>134590797
da comrade tell them
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>>134590998
Faggots go to gulag kek.
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>>134590797
Africa hasn't recovered from colonialism in the 18th century yet fucktard. I'm afraid you dumb nigs will have a long way to go before that.
>Thinks antifags are tough despite getting their shit pushed in Everytime conservatives counter- rally against them
Communism is a mental disorder, I swear.
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>>134584070

Any sympathy for Germany with Versailles is vanished when you look at the downright rapacious treaty they imposed upon the Russians with Brest-Livosk.

The only thing I would have done differently is completely emasculated the Prussians but left the Bavarians and Saxons and others off the hook. Not only did the germans not need to suffer for the Prussian fools' sins but it would have helped to divide and conquer them.

But seriously look up Brest-Livosk. They forced the Russians (who came to them hat in had seeking peace) to give up all the land they had gained since PETER THE GREAT, give up something like 1/3rd of their arable land, 1/3rd of their population, 3/4ths of their railway and coal production.

>>134585561

I see it less as the zionists and more the courtly intrigue and sociopathic parlor politics and gaming of the aristocracy. The affluent Jews simply engender themselves into the good graces and circles of these aristocrats who have long played chess-games with the rest of us - in the past it was games of war, in the present outside of places like the Mid-East they play games of sims and social drama with multikult and socialism. I sound like a bolshevik but I am not and I hate gommunism. But to the absurdly rich and powerful and ennui they play games with people's lives - not just the poor or middle class but even the lower rich are their pawns. Plenty of blue-bloods went and died horribly in war, the American forces in WW1 were often WASP aristocrats leading the lower classes like some modern retelling of the Iliad.

When you had a good god-fearing Christian Marine warrior like Smedley Butler wise up to the greedy and avaricious you know something is amiss. I may hate gommies today but I cannot blame veterans and witnesses of WW1 to turn to the false promises of communism when they were raped and ravaged as they were.
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>>134588904
Perfect summary of communism
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>>134589348
Any good book or documentary recommendations?
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>>134590998

Commies confuse me. 9/10 of them look like the kid in your pic but 1/10 look like the chad behind him.

What drives these otherwise respectable men to communism?
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>>134575214
>germany bout to win
>jews offer american support in exchange for israel
Balfour declaration. Also every major war was planned and manufactured using false flags.
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>>134590797
Aren't you just the silliest kind of shitposter
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>>134591631
as most here said it the Great War series on youtube follows the war week by week and can not say about a book others might recommend you one
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>>134575214
WW1 was the start, we're nearing the end.
>>134565406
>>134565406
>>134565406
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>>134576081
>demanding land from everyone
You mean demanding it back?
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>>134591704
could not tell you here no one wanted it it just came to us on top of tanks and we kinda just tried to deal with it until we could not take it anymore
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>>134576081
>demanding land from everyone randomly with no context

yeah places like austria, sudetenland, danzig which were 98% german. and were part of the HRE for a thousand years.
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>>134591836
i follow it but the viewers are the most bluepilled cucks ive ever seen in any youtube comments.

and many of the latest episodes have become cringe worthy with autistic flo and amerifat indy sperging out with their edgy intros and one liners.
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>>134575762
Actually it was mostly the fault of America, if they didn't join in the war would have resulted in a stalemate between the Central Powers and the Entente. America's entrance massively shifted the war in Entente's favor allowing them, the French in particular, to fuck Germany hard with the Versailles Treaty which then caused World War 2.

>>134575214
There is no real narrative, most powers weren't that distinguishable from each other and there was no real victory as u had a massive economic crisis right after. WW2 was European nationalism versus liberal and communist globalists, the powers that be(jews) hate Europe and control the media and WW 2 gives them the narrative to shit all over nationalism.
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>>134592452
the edgy intros and one liners i guessed they were to gain more views never liked that but what can you do now as for the commenters never cared i think its still pretty good
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>>134591431
An interesting point about the treaty of Brest-livosk, the Germans did intend to fuck the Russians pretty hard.
What about the territorial changes forced on Germany? Maybe if they had been allowed to keep their borders and simply forced to demilitarize, they wouldn't have gone on their adventure to win them back 20 years later? I know that simplifies it, but who knows?
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>>134590797
this is an entry-tier shitpost

git gud
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>>134592874
It's education but yes, the staff does skew left.

They blocked a ton of commenters after a huge argument broke out about the Jewish bankers just flooding both sides with credit to buy arms. I was surprised by the sheer number of people in agreement.
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>>134591728
its amazing how no one regularly brings this up. with russia defeated, the german juggernaut could bring all manpower and arms on the western front for a thrust to paris.

and then the stab in the back with german jewish factory strikes, balfour declaration bringing in a fresh enemy, communist uprisings in the navy, antiwar socialist newspaper propaganda, ect
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>>134592452
Literally a roach.
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>>134593024
yes did notice the jew talk there honestly was not surprised it seem logical conclusion to make and yeah they do lean left quite a bit
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>>134575214
WW1 doesn't get the attention it deserves but was definitely a brutal, ugly war.
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>>134591431
The Bolsheviks were in power at the time. I have a lot of sympathy for the Whites who opposed the Reds but after the Reds took over, Russia was compromised. Any removal of power or territory from the influence of that government is a good thing.
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>>134593721
people should have helped the Whites win you could still have a monarchy with no Tsar nicholas poor Tsar tho
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>>134583568
>An American blaming the Bongs for stealing Spanish colonies
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish–American_War

They did steal a fuckload of Dutch colonies after the Napoleonic wars, like South Africa, half of Guyana and Ceylon
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>>134576925
>Hitler was reunifying German people

Which he had no right to do and was not even necessary.
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>>134594039
>>134593721
Grand Duke Nicholas would have made for a better monarch perhaps
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>>134594181
>>134594039
Nothing but respect in my heart for old Russian royalty. I count their deposition among the great tragedies of our time alongside what happened to Germany in the aftermath of the world wars.
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>>134594805
monarchy in general gets an autistic emotional response these days and we act like liberal democracy its was always part of europe and monarchy is bad
also poor Kaiser Wilhelm II gets a bad reputation because the allies called him literally Satan and a warmonger
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>>134589851
Yeah, the entire shift from line tactics happened during WWI. The Russians and Germans created the base of shock trooper tactics while the Canadians perfected them.

In the Somme there was still a focus on single battles, and adaptations to the failed British and French strategies meant not only democratisation of military structure but also non-linear battle strategies. Flanking, practising with frontline soldiers and getting their feedback, the creeping barrage, and multiple attacks in separate areas all developed during WWI.

And largely, it is seen as a turning point in modern thinking. It is one of the most significant events of modernity, if not the key event. It is the moment when man became a machine and the will of machines was the source of all adaptations in strategy.

The war is not discussed because basically everything about it undermines democratic thought (apart from the usefulness of democratising military structure to a certain degree). For anyone with basic logic it is pretty clear that the British/Allies were the real enemies, both before and after the war. And the combination of devastating losses and mostly inept leadership make for difficult stories worshipping the winners.

It was bare war, stripped down to the most basic elements, without heroism, and leaving only devastation in its path. Perhaps most importantly, it signified the failure of the European economic project, as the national borders they had set out in the Congress of Vienna were supposed to ensure permanent prosperity, a balance of power, and an end to religious wars.
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>>134593721
The Bolsheviks were in power, with a great big helping hand of the Germans.

Shit, the Germans are starting to look like the Jews. Maybe they were just getting rid of competition in ww2?
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>>134588904
Hmm, sounds a bit like millennial life under capitalism.
Shit food.
Long lineups.
Shit jobs or no jobs.
Trash clothing that all looks the same.
Can't afford a car or house.

The collapse will be epic.
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>>134595568
well the germans sent Lenin in to Russia
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>>134592140
>yeah places like austria, sudetenland, danzig which were 98% german.
Between sudetenland and danzig you skipped the rest of the Czech state, which had roughly 5% german speakers and 95% non Germans.


In fact, the Germans literally got everything they asked for until that point. Oops ey.

>>134595652
They not only sent him there but financed him as well. In fact the germans planned to put the bolsheviks in charge. Weirdly enough the same bolsheviks surrendered to Germany and handed half of Russia to them in the peace treaty.

Even stranger, the Germans literally have a word for subverting nations trough revolutions "Revolutionierungspolitik".
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>>134595189
True. I understand the criticisms of monarchy. Lines of succession are always a roll of the dice, but at least someone is accountable in a monarchy. In our liberal democracies, no one is. Monarchs at least have a level of responsibility and connection to their people. Modern politicians do not. They just keep their heads down and do their "jobs".
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>>134584057
>A howitzer as secondary armament
It's an abomination, but a cool one at that
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>>134583568
Until the American came along.

You didn't break off from them. You took everything they did and made it even worse.
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>>134596105
i see that as an odd crticism of monarchy demcracy is far more of a roll of dice then literally breeding your leaders from birth and having them trained by the best minds your nations can offer can get you a far better outcome
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>>134596067
yes i know its kinda hypocrite a bit much to hate jews but behave like them
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>>134583098
>Based on what? What else would you have your cavalry do?

Pull carts.
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>>134596154
pretty tough abomination at that search for one
Pierre Billotte he gave the germans a real scare with that tank
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>>134579065
Actually, the Germans did solve trench warfare, along with the Canadians. It's just that they had so many losses, morale was low, and the entry of Americans left them severely outnumbered, there was no way they could win.

Their strategy was excellent at times, and against the Americans they were literally dealing with century-old warfare, but there was no way to shift troops around for reinforcements without creating further weakness.

It became a lightweight vs. two heavyweights.
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>>134582444
This couldn't be more wrong. When the Americans entered the war they were still using civil war strategies to fight the Germans. literally line fighting.

And there was a lot of resistance to how Canadians were restructuring the military and its strategies. The Brits and French were notorious for suicide missions and, similar to Americans, old war strategies. Better off just firing more artillery than sending lines of men over the top to face machine-guns.

The massive waves of mutiny also suggest how 'well' they were dealing with things.
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>>134583098
A monarchist defending monarchist stupidity 'cause MUH MONARKIZM.

The amount of training that goes into the horse and the rider isn't worth what you get out of it in horse meat.

And you're forgetting that if that horse feeds anyone it is the other side.

One of the reasons why the military is different now is because the Canadian commander did interviews with both officers and common soldiers and found that the officers were bullshitting and didn't really understand what was happening. Go read up on Arthur Currie, there's a reason why he became leader of the Western Front.
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>>134584038
Any idea of their names?
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>>134599484
first cavalry isnt or was not a bad ideia you can look how the bulgarians used it when they gave it motorised infrantry to go along with it was deadly really fast and cavalry was not always in hand to hand with sword and lance it was more like mounted infantry
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>>134599962
and fuck i really need to go to sleep
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>>134588063
BF1 is pretty unrealistic, apart from some of the maps.
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>>134590218
So what does it say about America where people are even more poor, and where the fed are essentially starving but also obese?
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>>134592879
Of course, but not just borders. The economic sanctions, the cucking of the military, and the open desire to turn Germany into a proxy slave state basically forced extreme nationalism to take over.
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>>134599962
Yeah, wasn't saying it was bad, just disagreeing with his reasons which sound like suicide cavalry.

The cavalry were also there because of tradition, and because tanks only came in the second half of the war, and in limited numbers. But mostly the cavalry were used for quick movement rather than charging trench lines.
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>>134596404
Exactly, that's why I consider democracy less of a roll of the dice and more of a guaranteed bad situation. At least there's a chance for a good outcome when you roll the proverbial dice in a monarchy.
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Go back even further. Study the Franco-Prussian war of 1870...
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>>134591431
>But seriously look up Brest-Livosk. They forced the Russians (who came to them hat in had seeking peace) to give up all the land they had gained since PETER THE GREAT, give up something like 1/3rd of their arable land, 1/3rd of their population, 3/4ths of their railway and coal production.
No, that were the commies who besides killing the Royal family had no problems with giving up russian clay.
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>>134585279
You wouldn't know, being brainwashed by Polish education and all.
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>>134575214
>the world
>in the west
>no one ever
>no one teaches it in school
Just because you're a fucking retard living in the most retarded country on Earth doesn't mean everywhere else is the same or that your ridiculous trailer park constitutes 'the west' let alone the world Jamal
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Becuse it was more complex then good guys vs evil empire vs an even worse evil empire.

Politics had not caught up to technology, most of Europe was still ruled by kings, of which none of them could into politics, or some were just retarded (see tsar Nick II). Europe was still in the Victorian era despite having industrial era technology.
>France is still butt hurt about the 7 years war and wants an excuse to fight Germany
>Bismarck invents political 4d chess and uses it so no major wars break out again
>but becuse the kings and leaders are retarded and that only makes it more likely a fuck huge war will break out
>Germany is also worried that in case a fuck huge war happens, they would be surrounded on 3 side and get btfo
>they create the schlieffen plan so they can zerg rush France and take it in a very short amount of time so they aren't surrounded
>archduke dies and the dominos fall
>schlieffen plan is put into action but France holds the line, Germany is surrounded and BTFO
>Nick II wants to fight soley becuse he wants to be a big boy and swing his weight around, however Russia is in no shape at all to fight, this only guarantees communism will happen, while Germany is surrounded, they stil BTFO thed Russian army.
>communism happens and Lenin pulls out of the war
>at the last second the US comes in and helps, but the war is pretty much already over
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>>134575214
Ever heard of trench warfare? Goddamned moron Brit's and French especially threw millions of men a day at machine guns. They were absolutely mad. Fuck them for putting Europe back 200 years.
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>>134599484


Chill comrade tovarish quebec
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>>134582792
Because we fought and we won. Get an education, Holywood betrayed you.
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