Confederates

Men doing what they thought was just for a home they loved.

Soldiers

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>>134573372

Freedom fighters who embodied the founding ideals of this country.

They were also a bunch of stupid rednecks manipulated by the uppers class elite.

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Why do losers always have the best flags?

>>134573372
Rebelling against what was to become modern day degeneracy

>>134573372
it's pretty clear the good guys lost WW2 and the American civil war

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I think Yankees are godless faggots that are mostly German and non-Anglo trash by now and have no blood claim to America anymore.

The Confederation lost, The Union won.The Stars and Stripes are our flag.

I don't mind if people want to fly the flag privately, I just think it's very silly.

>>134573372
It's the equivalent of Iraq wanting to keep ISIS flags up and put up monuments of ISIS leaders. As a southerner, this shit is embarrassing.

>>134575144
>As a southerner
You mean as a carpetbagger transplant that practices homofaggotry within the confines of a shithole urban center.

>>134573372
Considering the Confederate Rebellion was to decide whether or not the Mid-West and Westen parts of the country would have Afro.-plantations brought into them, I say the Confederates were in the wrong, O.P.

Do you really wish that Kansas and New Mexico had the same amount of blacks there that the American South has today?

>>134575279
I bet you haven't even held the door open for your own momma.

>>134573502
Then it wasn't about moving Afro.-plantations into the Mid-West and farther west? It seems you and I have studied different versions of history, Anon. You talk about "home" and I talk about the fate of Kansas and other places being decided once-and-for-all by the people who _did_not_want_ the slaves coming in.

>>134573591
Civic nationalists... Like you, Anon.!

>>134573372
Nobody in history has come closer to defeating the us than Robert e Lee

>>134575609
No that's not cool

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>>134573372
fags who died for a planter class that treated them like shit because they were so debased and degraded that all they could see is their meaningless "superiority" to blacks, even though that "superiority" was just a bullshit way for the planters to keep them in line and exploited

kind of like the GOP today, fancy that...

Occupation and struggle is one of the reasons we haven't forgotten how to be men. Our losses are only temporary.

>>134573372
Freedom Fighters, the South didn't invade the North after all. States can leave the union if they so choose, it was built that way on purpose, It is a state's right to leave if their populace has that big of a grievance with the union and federal government. It would be like if today, the EU raided the UK over Brexit and forced them back into the EU. It was total bullshit, and we should never forget how we were treated when we decided to leave. There is a lesson in there, the feds would rather spill blood than lose money. No matter what the history books say, war is always about money. No matter what moral bullshit they try to prop up as "The real reason", its all smoke and mirrors. Bottom line, we left, they didn't like it, and killed us over it. Fuck em.

>>134576530
>the South didn't invade the North after all. States can leave the union if they so choose
wrong on both counts

>>134576264
could you be a bigger faggot?

>>134576683
I didn't think so, but then I met your dad, so it's clearly a possibility.

>>134573372
Ally of Britain, sorry for not getting involved in your civil war :(

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>>134573372
I wonder what the North-south split is like on /pol/? I feel like southerners are over represented here.

You have to separate those who were fighting for their homes & families over those who had others fighting for their money. Especially when the Confederate government was being proxy supported by the Central Banks & their kike warlords in Europe.

>>134573866
because the right can't fight but they are good at making flags and memes

>>134577022

Top fucking kek

>>134576938
I actually have nothing against southerners, there's things about the culture I don't like but that's true of everyone, and I appreciate the progress they've made over the past 50 years.

>>134576812
the ones on /pol/ are just the ugly remnants of the bad old days. But yeah, you're going to have more frothing southern racists than frothing northern racists.

Traitors that are the direct cause of the US' black population. Lincoln wanted to send them back even after the war but low and behold a Dixie cuck killed him. Add in that Johnson from "steers and queers" Texas expanded their rights even more.

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>>134577293
>muh racism
There's a place called Reddit for your kind. Yankees love it.

>>134574684
If the South had won then the US black population would be larger than the white population. We would have had a slave revolt worse than Haiti.

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>>134577468
>Lincoln wanted to send them back even after the war but low and behold a Dixie cuck killed him
Yankee babby's favorite legend.

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>>134573372
>Traitors
Yah because the U.S. is doing OH SO WELL right now with real "patriots" running the country. Totally not on the brink of social collapse, $20trillion in debt, and swamped in degeneracy. Everything is great!

all rebels are traitors

>>134577580
>slaves revolt
>most of them are killed and the rest learn their place

I fail to see a problem.

>>134573372
Traitors to the republic.

>>134573620
This guy knows what's up

>>134578037
>>134577751
Anyone who supports this current Jewish consumer vessel state is a fucking traitor. My family fought for their people, and their sovereignty

See, the ultimate problem here is that the common belief is that the majority of common people and soldiers are lumped in with the elite.

For the most part, the Confederates were decent people being manipulated by a grossly corrupt upper class that would rather start a war than to lose a single inkling of power or influence or territory. Just like just about every nation ever.

There is nothing new under the sun. What has been done, shall be done again.

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a lot of federal bootlickers in this thread

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>>134578173
>secession was lead by the upper class

lol open a book for once

I see them as freedom fighters who picked the wrong hill to die on.

>>134577933
Anon you know that is bullshit. Haiti fucking happened. Southerners wanted to breed slaves like rabbits because more slaves meant more power in Congress because of the 3/5s rule. We would have probably 30% white population if Dixie wont the war.

>>134577751
>Rebelling against leftism since it's birth
Seems like a Catch 22

>>134578037
what do you have against the right to self determination?

>>134577718
Where did those nogs originate from Cleetus. They sure as fuck didn't come from our vaste New England plantations. We are in the current situation because of the South.

>>134578189
pls marry me

Civil war was about resisting federal power over state power. (((Yanks))) can get fucked.

freedom fighters

I see them the same way as the men who fought in the revolution.

The patriots are heroes because they won.
The Confederates are traitors because they lost.

History sides with the winners.

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>>134578369
>black percentage of the southern population decreased since revolutionary times
>only 2 small scale slave revolts over 70+ years
>yet somehow they would become a 99% black haiti if Lincoln didn't "liberate" them

lol yankee arguments are hilarious

>>134578189

YES, the real GA flag. I live near Covington. Are you also in GA or just a coincidence you chose that particular pic?

>>134578774

Confederate Government never formally surrendered, fucker. So the war is not lost; it's still ongoing.

>>134578545
>Where did those nogs originate from
Jews.

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>>134578920
no, i'm in SC. I just saved that pic from another thread.

>>134573372
where does the traitor/treason shit even come from? the south wanted to be left alone to do their own thing and the north declared war on them. leaving an abusive relationship is treacherous?

R I S E A G A I N

>>134573372
can't be worse than the tranny north

This is the perfect thread for southerners
>>134578534

>>134578545
Wrong, we were 90% white before your northern businessmen decided to start importing millions of foreigners.

>>134573372
Butthurt shithead traitors who we are too nice to. Do we fly the British flag anywhere in the United States? No. Because we beat those traitorous shits who rejected the rule of law and enacted taxation without representation. Meanwhile we let inbred sister-fuckers fly their flag while they tell whiney bitch tales of how the Union army stole their slaves and married Southern war widows to niggers. I wish we would have had the cruelty to execute every single last Confederate traitor instead of letting them live. All they've done is whine and shit on themselves for 200 years. The world is a worse place for them.

I'm looking forward to General Sherman Part 2. Can't wait to execute me some big tough confederate strongmen who feel safe because they have a rack full of rifles. I've knifed motherfuckers like you in the back while you felt safe and watched you bleed out. Praise the 2nd amendment from prison while you're paralyzed, you racist retard.

>>134573372

If they won the world wouldn't be a pile of shit now

>>134573372
states' rights = freedom
federal umbrella authority = slavery

>>134579652
Except even Madison, who wrote the constitution, was considering a secession of virginia and kentucky. So much for le ebil traitors

>>134575279

Fucking This.

Always californifags move here fleeing their ruinous effects of their leftisf policies and think they can identify with the south now because they can blend in

Basically they're jews

>>134579652
>flag

like pottery

>>134579799
You lost the war, you lost jurisprudence, you lost everything. And you deserved it. And you know it. And you still can't let it go. Kek.

NO one in the world is as butthurt as a neo-Confederate. Even Nazis have more to proud of than you do.

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>>134576264

>superiority of even poor whites to niggers was a propaganda trick rather than an actual biological and statistical fact

Ok schlomo, sure...

>>134580201
I'm from cuckifornia
Anyway, what's your point? Neither side fought for what we have today.

>>134576264
The poorest white states have iq averages of about 98, on par with most of developed europe

You're just spewing meme cliches

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>>134573372
Making an attempt to leave a larger nation to create their own because the larger nation they were once part of doesn't represent their ideas. Hmmm kinda like...

>>134579652
I love reading about noguns faggots being this jealous.

>>134580451
The Union fought for the Union. Which we still have to this day. Nice try, retard. Next time--try to not be retarded.

>>134580671
I love killing neo-Confederate meth heads and lighting their shacks on fire. No one cares if they die, and even if the cops show up, it's just another dead hillbilly in his meth-lab.

>>134577022
Yeah the right sucks that's why the Soviets won the Cold War

>>134580745
Nice projection, lad. So you are a methhead arsonist anti-racist? Why don't you just join antifa? Do you have a drop of nigger in you as well?

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>>134573372
The land of the free unironically killed a million of its own people because some farmers wanted to leave the union voluntarily.

Why do us Anglos BTFO each other so much over freedom that never materialises?

>USA vs Britian
started a war over 3% tax, now pays 40%
>USA vs South
confederates legally leave a union of liberty and then the union kills them

Get our shit together lads.

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>>134580631
But what ideas were they fighting for? That's the important part.

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>>134574843
>non-Anglo trash

Based Dixie. Would support you indirectly again.

>>134575872
>our state doesn't want this thing
>no state can decide for itself if it wants this thing
In all of your studies, did that ever jump out?

>>134580686
Yes, it fought for a christian, white union in which everyone could carry guns freely. They did not fight for a technicality, my half literate friend

>>134577022
Say that to my face yuppie faggot

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The Confederacy had every right to secede from the Union, and the southern men who fought were righteously defending their nation.

Collett Leventhorpe is my hero, the only British Brigadier General in the Confederacy. He was wounded in the battle of Gettysburg as he was leading his men into a bloody charge. He got captured by the Union but he refused to take anesthetic offered by Northern surgeons when he went though surgery for his wound because he said he would have died, rather than let an enemy see that a Confederate Officer could not endure anything without a complaint. What a chap.

>>134581167
Certainly not the degeneracy, the freeing of niggers, and the overwhelming loss of national pride you see in america today.

One of the disappointments of Jefferson Davis' life was that he was not tried for treason after the war.

That was a battle that the Lincolnites couldn't afford to lose.

kerdasi amaq

>>134573372

Confederates were patriotic heroes.

>>134581586
Yankee states were planning secession themselves in the midst of a war with the British.

>>134582410
I'm all for secession. The Irish pretty much seceded from the UK. The smaller the nation, the more accountable it is to the local people, and the smaller the government too. City states when???

>>134573372
Faggots that need to move on

>>134581764
Valid point. The Confederacy was much better than most countries at the time, we typically look at it in comparison to, say, New England at the time, but they had some of the finest Western institutions too.

Beyond that, us as individuals just gotta do what we can do.
>degeneracy
I don't watch or listen to anything that comes out of Los Angeles.
>the freeing of niggers
At the same time the slave trade was responsible for bringing blacks here, while said New England produced without “the peculiar institution.”
>the overwhelming loss of national pride
Thankfully it's still strong where I live and Trump did get elected as a nationalist.

The US couldn't bear the thought of another power sharing N America with them. Hell, they threatened to invade Mexico unless Maximilian stepped down. They didn't see Canada as much of a threat.

>>134584139
except it was the Confederates who started the war by attacking the Union. Don't start what you can't finish Southern retards

>>134584139
We still had plans on the books for invading Canada for a long time, as was taught in my public high school a decade ago.

>>134584345
that's just having a smart and prepared military in case of the worst coming. Your military has plans to fight everyone. The difference is that the USA hasn't invaded Canada, while the Confederates invaded the North while unprepared and got btfo

>>134583835
>I don't watch or listen to anything that comes out of Los Angeles.
good man

>At the same time the slave trade was responsible for bringing blacks here
Don't understand why you'd free them in that case? I mean its like bringing a caged monkey into your house, then opening the cage and being upset it was brought in in the first place?

>>134584584
It was a defensive war. The CSA wanted to defend itself as an independent nation. I'd invade my neighbour too if he wanted to kill me and take over my home.

>>134584237
The Republican Party wanted war. Lincoln gave them what they wanted.

>>134573372
They were freedom fighters no doubt. They rebelled against a government they felt was unjust which is the purpose for founding a free country like the USA. The morals of slavery are another story, but there's nothing inherently wrong with seceding the union.

>>134576681
It's not a union if one party is forced to be in it.

Confederates were assholes.

Germans leaving Europe because of the 1848 revolutions went to the midwest and west of the present day USA.

They wanted to establish these new territories and states as free states without slavery.

The states that would become the Confederacy were sending bandits to the new territories and states to intimmidate them into being pro-slavery. FUCK THE CSA!

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>>134584584
Correct that the Confederates started the war.
>The First Battle of Fort Sumter opened on April 12, 1861, when Confederate artillery fired on the Union garrison. These were the first shots of the war and continued all day, watched by many civilians in a celebratory spirit.
The San Francisco Bay Area still has defenses in case the Confederates came after the gold for buying European mercenaries.
>>134584800
However I think the Confederates did know that the US wanted to do what it ended up doing.
>>134584685
>Don't understand why you'd free them in that case?
I mean, what were we supposed to do at that point in history, keep them enslaved forever?

>>134573372
>11 colonies declare independence
"AAH YEEAAH MUH LIBERTY"
>South declares independence
"WTF NO YOU CAN'T JUST DO THAT"

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Fucking dumbass traitors
>muh south pride
They were dumb enough to go to war against a force they couldn't beat because they were unwilling to change their economies to confront the modern needs of the world.

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>>134573372

>be me
>grow up near Henrico County, Virginia
>Be Sons of Confederate Veteransfag
>used to attend reenactments all over the state when I lived there
>realize the Diary of Anne Frank was published on the exact same day the Seven Days Battles (mainly took place in and around Henrico County just outside Richmond) with began in 1862
>Robert E. Lee successfully repulsed McClellan's advance on Richmond and gave chase, but was stopped at Glendale and Malvern Hill and thus were unable to prevent the Army of Potomac from retreating back across the James River
>one of several missed opportunities for Lee to destroy the Union Army in open battle and win the war
>Union victory in the American Civil War marked the beginning of increasingly aggressive U.S. expansionism that ultimately culminated in the World Wars and the rise of the Superpowers
>rise of the Soviet Union, the Nazis, and the human tragedy that followed is in part the blowback of American meddling in the First World War
>if the Army of Northern Virginia had broken through at Malvern Hill and destroyed McClellan's forces while they were still trapped on the banks of the James, Lee would've been free to move against Washington and could've forced Lincoln to sue for peace
>realize the entire tragic chain of events over the course of 83 years that led to the World Wars, the rise of the Nazis, the Holocaust, and Anne Frank's death could've been prevented at least partially or in their entirety
>Anne could've been a happy housewife and mother, enjoying a peaceful life in Amsterdam, if only Lee's plans had been properly coordinated and executed in the last days of June, 1862

My God... We failed her.

TL;DR We were right.

>>134576681
"Wrong on both counts" isn't an argument. Refute the central point or admit defeat.

>>134586274
They thought they had a chance because of the home advantage and possibility of getting other countries involved, basically how the US had won.

However, I don't get why hollywood romanticizes them so much considering that they would have been a leftist's nightmare.

>>134585942
>keep them enslaved forever?
Yes

https://www.abbevilleinstitute.org/clyde-wilson-library/why-the-war-was-not-about-slavery/

"Delegation after delegation came to Lincoln in early days to beg him to do something to avoid war. Remember that 61% of the American people had voted against this great hero of democracy, which ought to have led him to a conciliatory frame of mind. He invariably replied that he could not do without “his revenue.” "

Yankee Patriotards aren't interested in the truth; only forcing everyone else to tell them what they want to hear.

>>134573372
They were still american soldiers and sons, and should be buried as such. The military wing of the confederacy deserves much more respect then the political.

>>134584237
War would have stopped then and there had Lincoln permitted it to

Since they fought because of slavery, I guess traitors would be the more accurate of the two options. Immoral would be my choice if it was a fill-in-the-blank question.

>>134586878
You're from my county faggot

Your name start with B?

>>134587239
Not a likely scenario, probably because of you guys. After Haiti revolted and the French became disillusioned with slavery, there was no way we could keep it on our own.

Too much pressure from Europeans. Would have been nice to not fight a juden war for it, though. The slaves didn't get freed, they just stopped only being black in the new era of wage slaves.

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>>134586206
>>11 colonies declare independence
Win war for independence against the world's strongest military
>>South declares independence
Lose war for independence against the other half of the same country
You lost, get over it.

>>134573372
I can't help but sympathise with them probably because my family faught for them when the civil war was happening

>>134587923
Behave, Britain supported the south. Look up the CSS Alabama. British built ship with a British crew fighting for the Southern right to keep slaves. It was only because we had access to domestic cotton in India that we didn't get involved. Plus we only abolished slavery once we realised indian coolie labour was cheaper. Don't blame us for the North getting horny over letting wild ape niggers free.

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>>134575053
I have been saying this all along. Fly it at your house, fly it on your truck, get it tattooed on your ass, see if I give a shit. It tells me all I need to know about you really. But no, you can't fly it over the courthouse because you lost the fucking war, sorry, that's how it works.

>>134587202
There wasn't really a big belief that they could win, just a belief in fighting for their autonomy, and to not become wage slaves and have their entire economy destroyed, only to be recovering more than 100 years later.

Seeing what happened after they lost is all the justification they needed to fight in the first place. Seems they were fucked either way.

>>134587924
What Yankees don't get is that they lost, too.

Enjoy paying your income taxes!:D

>>134588223
Not blaming, just pointing out how it was incredibly unlikely it was that we would keep slavery. Y'all buying the cotton was what propped the cotton farms up in the first place. As you say with India, switching to them as a main source puts no real reason to keep cartel farms running.

Why take care of the slaves when the cotton they produce isn't selling well? Most other crops didn't really need the kind of slave labor cotton plantations did.

>>134584800
no the confederates fired first. Just like today the Southerners are war mongerers

>>134581167

I'd like to buy a enormous monster truck like that just to outrage faggots like you driving to hot yoga in your prius

>>134588660
>nations have never baited other states into attacking first
The north knew what they were doing.

>>134588660
>what is a preemptive strike
You can be the army to fire the first shot and still fight a defensive war, dingus

The Lincolnite refusal to surrender Fort Sumter was itself an act of War.

>>134588611

Yep... freeing niggers ten years early was totally worth 600K white lives.

I mean, look how great they've done with freedom since then

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>>134588507
Do you really think there would be no taxes if the south had won the war?

>>134587714

Nah, starts with a J.

Why?

>>134588938

https://youtu.be/N1SoYTKhK4s

Obviously niggers really value one anothers lives

>>134588611
The point is that matter (slavery and the freedom of slaves) should rightfully be decided by the individual states themselves, not by a federal government.

>>134588938
Agreed. A long, drawn out diplomatic solution would have been a lot better for the nation.
But where's the (((money))) in that? Easier to destabilize the wealth via war than anything else. I don't see how people can look at the reconstruction and still defend the union jews and their antics.
It was no myth that Lincoln wanted a reasonable reconstruction, and that is why he got popped.

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>>134588660
>Southerners are war mongerers

But I've been opposed to every US Military action since I was old enough to vote.

>>134589004
The type of taxes would probably be different, as if the anti-central gov side won, why would there be taxes like income tax that only benefits the fed.

>>134589116
Our (((masters))) decided enslaving the nation was a more profitable solution.

>>134587923
Ironically we sort of became their slaves, at least to the ones living off the taxpayers today.

>>134588307
They set themselves up this way by building an economy on slaves though.

>>134588716
kek well I drive a pickup, just not a truck that tips over at the slightest touch and has so much space for your wife's sons

>>134579903

It's more than just that. These people actually ruin the economies that they decide to transplant to. First, they bring in their high wage IT tech jobs that only they have the education to acquire, completely upending the blue collar labor-based economy of their newfound locations. This is only worsened when they start voting like they're still in California - and buying up all the decent hunting land that they'll use, maybe, a day out of the year.

>>134589524
>compares paying taxes to chattel slavery
poor baby

>>134577022
The south at the time and for a long time after the civil war was left leaning and democrat.

>>134589524
>it's their fault they read market needs and acted on them accordingly
Not the entire agricultural sector relied on cartel slavery. It was mainly cotton and I think tobacco.
The war, on the other hand, destroyed the entire economy with no prejudice. All railroads destroyed. All fields salted. All able bodied men, dead.

Stupid thing to destroy half the country for, but then again the civil war was not about slavery. That is the excuse given so the goyim don't wake up.

>>134589417
Yeah, we're the slaves now, to mass media, debt, wage slavery, dysgenics, and the breakup of traditional cohesive communities by mass immigration, crime, poverty, endless consumerism, big government, welfare state, pollution, urbanisation, destruction of our foundational principles of church, family, marriage, liberty etc.

But at least the niggers are free

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>>134589610
There's a difference between paying taxes for the police and military, and paying taxes for fellow civilians who don't want to work and just vote for more gibsmedat (and have better standards of living than people who work 15+ hour shifts in the Balkans).

And yes, involuntarily working for someone else is slavery.

>>134589968
It's disturbing how much of our current world order grew from that war. Almost like it was the experimenting ground for implementation in Europe, and then the rest of the world.

>>134585942

The Presidio looks a lot smaller up close compared to the bridge the bridge

t. have been there

>>134573372
They fought for what they believed in. Lincoln could have avoided a civil war but instead chose war instead of negotiation.

>>134589943
Naturally the slaveowners dragged everyone else into the war and got poor men's sons killed. My frame of reference is the humble New England farmers who worked their own land and for some reason weren't attacked by the Judeo-Reptilian conspiracy that Southern apologists talk about (only the Southerners were).
>All railroads destroyed. All fields salted. All able bodied men, dead.
"War is hell." -General Sherman

>>134573372
FREEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOM

>>134590058
>involuntarily working for someone else is slavery.
It really isn't

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>>134573372
>What is /pol/s consensus on Confederates, freedom fighters or traitors?

Absolute cucks.

>>134587924
So the only objective approach is to watch who wins and nothing else?
>>134589004
Centralization vs. CONfederation. No, you don't pay federal taxes in confederation desu.

>>134573372
fuck y'all yankees son

>>134590155
The Presidio had a spoopy satanic child abuse scandal involving Michael Aquino I believe in the late 80s, now I believe it's closed an civilians live here.

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>>134590926
The only ones who got fucked were you inbred white trash sister-fuckers desu.

>>134573372
Used to be against them, despite being a southerner, then as time went by and the left basically became communists, that are comparable to ISIS in that they deface and tear down monuments.

As a result i support them, i dont support succession just the spirit of dixie in the face of this heritage destroying Leftist beast.

>>134590099
Yeah, half of me feels it could have all been avoided had the Germans won the second world war or the South won the civil war, but the other half accepts that this is all destiny and has been pretty much inevitable since the industrial revolution (and perhaps even the enlightenment). One thing for sure is the times are changing, either we're headed for anarchy or full autocracy (probably the former then the latter) but one way or another this is all going to come grinding to a halt. The only white men who will survive are those who have communities to rely on and have prepared. Frankly I have faith Jesus is going to come back soon and sort the wheat from the chaff so to speak.

Mathew 38:42
38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

>>134590580
You seem to willingly forget about the reconstruction, and the general degradation of ALL of rural America (rust belt for example).
The South was the beginning of the take over. Once they lost, there was no stopping the (((feds))) from strongarming the rest of the country over the next 150 years, which is exactly what happened.

Seriously, go read about the reconstruction. You think the confederate shaming is new? It's been employed since the war ended to justify northern interest coming in and buying out all southern resources.
They would literally use their connections to the federal government to go into Texas and force landowners and small towns to bend and kneel, or face federal judgement, which always sides with northern interest.

Have you even educated yourself on the matter, or are you going off of what was taught in high school? Naturally, what was taught in school isn't even close to the entirety of the conflict. The real eye opening events happened after the war, not during.

The reconstruction was an occupation, not unlike Afghanistan and Iraq.

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>>134591095
>muh spirit of dixie

Where was that when your participation trophies got taken away?

>muh south will rise again!

Couldn't even stop monuments from being removed, top kek.

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It was decided back in /new/ that The Civil War, Great War, and WW2 had outcomes where the wrong side won
Anyone who says otherwise is a faggot, Yankeecuck, or Bong

>>134591204
It isn't a mistake that all of the conquered nations from that time are still angry at all foreigners.

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>>134591380
>Yankeecuck

Except it was the South who got cucked.

>>134573620
You're retarded
It was right to break off because the globalist elite in the north were destroying our rights and it had become a nation that no longer embodied the ideals that the founding fathers had set for us.
You didn't have to be rich or an upper echelon member to know that leaving was the only option
Honestly I think had Dixie won the leaders of the north and the politicians who started all of it would have been executed and the north left to it's own devices.
Unification mostly would have been thought of as a bad idea

>>134590580
>>134591267
Building off of this, consider the conflict of the Hatfields and McCoys. There were hundreds of conflicts like these, and they are almost always able to be split between northern-supporters and southern-defenders.

The north supported side always won, and the southern people's were always the ones being stolen from and suppressed. Same story repeated across the entire south.
>conflict
>federal guys come in and side with the northern interest
>southerners have no route for justice besides more armed conflict
But like the war, the southerners never win because the money was on the northern side.

Funnily enough, it was often times a Scot vs english/Anglo conflict, mimicking the border conflicts in Britain.

>>134590580
>North provoked south for years
>durr we had to invade them

>>134591268
How the fuck would we stop the monuments from being taken? It was literally funded by out of state interest, and was done under cover of night.

It is hard to prevent such things when under occupation.

>>134573372
It's no worse than Communists waving USSR flags, basically hammer and sickle.

>>134573372
Reminder that the Confederacy was a state made by and for jews

>>134591380
I'm a bong and I agree in those wars the losers should have won. What British people have you spoken to who have disagreed?

>>134590305
Stanton, Bates, Chase and the other failed Republican nominees wanted war.

Mind you the Yankees underestimated the fighting ability of the South. They thought they could send their army south and it would be all over in a week.

>>134592107
If that were true, why is America today such a juden nation? Your rational is flawed.

>>134592056
You could have fought back you weak-kneed cuck. Right now your attitude is "oh well we're under yankee control there's nothing we can do about it I guess ;( it's just too hard ;'(

>>134577580
You're ignorant as fuck
Two Virginians started a program in the early 1800's to send niggers freed back to Africa that eventually spanned the entirety of the south and parts of the north. They even created the nation of Liberia to send them there.
But because of that kike faggot Lincoln and his buddies in 1856 Liberia was talked into declaring Independence despite it being nowhere near ready and as a result sending people back there became incredibly expensive.
The union is the reason the niggers aren't gone plain and simple

>>134591047
>mindlessly repeating telavivision (((memes)))
>not knowing that niggers actually have the highest rates of child sexual abuse and incest... just like every other crime
>b-b-but that's not what they showed on CSI SVU!?!

>>134592200
You are retarded. If you fight them, they WILL shoot and kill you. Worse part is the nation would never hear about it, either.

Better to play the long game and just put the statues back up. The mayor who approved it is losing his mind, and people are noticing. He isn't wrapped too tight, and his opposition is exploiting it.

>>134592394
So in other words, you're completely, hopelessly cucked and under the boot of the yankee.

>>134581239
this

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>>134573372
Their agrarian lifestyle would have saved them
>>134565406
>>134565406
>>134565406

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>>134573372
Real Americans, they lost to Yankees and since then the country is a travesty of what it used to be

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NIG HATE THREAD
>>134585136
NIG HATE THREAD
>>134585136
NIG HATE THREAD
>>134585136

>>134573372
All Freedom Fighters are Traitors'
But they were trying to keep slavery so I support

>>134573502
fpbp

>>134592444
Is this news to you? You do realize Waco wasn't very long ago, right?
Do you even know of Waco or do you still believe the narrative?
>he was totally a weird, incestuous pedophile, goy! Now stop digging into it!

>>134591935
>it was often times a Scot vs english/Anglo conflict, mimicking the border conflicts in Britain
Yeah the South was largely settled by Scots (jacobites and royalists (Carolina = King Charles)) and borderers/ulster scots especially in the Appalachians today, while the North was traditionally more English (East Anglian puritans and quakers). Look up Albion's Seed by David Hackett Fischer.

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>>134592489
>meanwhile, in reality

>>134592613

Ruby ridge was even worse

>>134592056
Unfortunately. it's illegal to mete out an appropriate punishment to the scalawags, cultural Marxists and carpetbaggers who are responsible for this vandalism.

In a way, the compact that led to the refounding of nation is revoked by this desecration.

Anyway, when the Cultural Marxists are finished with the South; Yankeeland is next in the firing line.

>>134592703

How dare anyone have a kind of fun that's outdoors and doesn't involve chardonnay and brie

>>134592673
Yep, and will do.
It is very interesting to me how the civil war is so reflected in the border conflicts. It really helps understand who was associated with what side, particularly in regards to most American conflicts from the era.

>>134592778
this

They're just butthurt that white Christian communities still exist

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>>134591380

WW1 and WW2 could've been avoided altogether had the Confederacy won

>>134587088
where was Gettysburg fought? North or South?

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>>134592778
>southern "fun" is literally just jumping around in filth

>>134591562
Yankees won ww1 and ww2. Even Alabama Yankees.

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>>134592056

Well we can always shoot the workers removing them...

>>134592709
Yep, which is why this is more than a southerners concern, but an issue for the entire nation to consider. It started in the south, but the style of control was executed throughout the nation, and then the world.
>>134592777
Fortunately, America has many traditions to deal with such hurdles. The law is very fluid for this reason, and people don't forget the grudges easily.

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>>134592896
There's literally a nigger right there in the pic. Which is unsurprising, really.

>>134592394
Would it be appropriate to name the largest waste treatment plant in New Orleans after this turd of a Mayor?

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>>134593010

>claims to be redpilled about Jews
>citing TLC as evidence of Southern inferiority

>>134573372
Traitors by definition.

If you join the enemy we will show you sympathy.

>>134593010
>he has to spend money to have fun

>>134591935
You're describing events from after the Civil War, while I was arguing that the South would have been fine like New England if it hadn't a) had slavery, and b) seceded and attacked our Fort Sumter. The arguments against us come across as trying to shift the aggression onto us, who used violence to keep people in slavery and put down slave revolts in the first place?

After the Civil War, no doubt the carpetbaggers and their ilk committed many injustices, but that was the consequence of losing a war, it would not have happened otherwise, as it never happened in rural New England.

>>134591966
>North provoked south for years
Sorry we didn't let them expand slavery to Cuba and New Mexico.
>durr we had to invade them
Nobody leaves the United States of America senpai.

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>>134579652
>kekistani
More that cancerstani

>>134593110
Having just one nigger in that pic, in a state which is probably under 75% white is a fairly good result

>>134586878
>>134589053
Did the only girl you ever love was born with roses in her eyes?

>>134593036
They took that into account, and is why they only worked to remove the monuments at night. They also had military grade equipment on the police guarding the workers, so it would really just be an exercise of futility to try.
Even worse, you end up giving them ammo to use against the entire cause. Better to let it happen and allow the anger to be fermented for the proper time to act.

The confederacy in the civil war acted on emotion, and not a lot of rational and strategic thought. Let's not make that mistake again, especially after all the damage it caused.

>>134593194
>Nobody leaves the United States of America
Why not? You lot left the British Empire. Good double standards there.

>>134593194
>bad goy you should have just taken up the butt without a peep look at the other people accepting of their rape they dont get beat up
>so what we have a military base in your land goy

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>>134593177
>BOI

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>>134593363

Yeah

from what i was taught, the civil war wasn't started because of slavery at all. it was later towards the end of the war that lincoln decided to pursue freeing slaves because others backing him were pushing him to do so.

the war was started because the north were taking advantage of the south, trying to take them over/control them, wanted what they had, etc. and the south were sick of it so they decided to fight back instead.

the south were the actual good guys.

>>134573372
Misguided but also misrepresented

>>134593445

You don't even need to hit them. Merely popping a shot off in their direction would be enough scare 90% of them into quitting.

>>134593165
No need, the dude is totally out of touch. Go check out his recent activities. He has a black mistress he left his wife for, dresses like a biker to go to a policeman ceremony where he rode horses, and many other things that slip my mind at the moment.

It goes to show you who the DNC has to rely on to have control in such areas. Have to pump them full of cocaine to keep them focused on their job, and even then they don't do well.
Letting the state degrade isn't enjoyable, but if the administration remains powerful we will never get rid of the cancer. The corruption tendrils run deep.

>>134593445
Yeah imagine the (((media))) response to an attack like that.

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>>134593532
But the UK is a German monarchy and we're a constitutional republic.

>>134593578
The rural people in the parts that stayed here were not attacked, only the rural people in the former Confederacy. If the Southern states had stayed, their rural people would have been fine, too. Your enemies are the wealthy slave owners.

>Freedom fighters
>Traitors

Idiots who attacked a Fort for no reason rather then building a nation like they claimed they were doing.

>>134592162
Most, that was more for those who disagree

>>134593891
>yeah goy just take it up the butt, you shouldn't have strike your hand against the rapist, its your fault

>>134593445
Yeah, adopt a get the bastards approach(legal though).

like not joining foreign armies, foreign air forces, foreign navies and foreign marine corps, would be a start.

look confedertes are part of americas history the people trying to to wipe them from history removing statues etc wont learn from the past but make more mistakes
also blacks owned black slaves in america

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>>134573372
Dumb traitors, if they only let Lincoln do his term there would be no CSA and no civil war. We would be way ahead of many other countries right now, and wouldn't have this dividing shit with SJWs and Liberals separating the South from the North. On the other hand they did make a pretty sweet flag.

>>134593194
You are purposely separating the war and reconstruction to preserve your argument. You are a fool if you believe the post-war events weren't already part of the plan before the war even began. Just like you seem to believe Fort Sumter was anything other than but bait so the union could retain the moral highground so the reconstruction could go as planned.

>we
You are not part of the union, you suffer from their victory just like the rest of the nation. This isn't north vs south, it is independence vs control, and you are essentially bragging about choosing the controllers as your banner. How is that delusion any different than the disconnect between the average southerner and the slave owners?
>protip: it isnt

>>134593891
So in a monarchy communities (nations) have the right to secede from a disconnected executive authority in the face of perceived injustices, but in a republic communities (nations) don't have the right to secede from a disconnected executive authority in the face of perceived injustices, because you let your executive be selected by party politics, business interests and mass media rather than by God's divine mandate?

Hate them. They are the reason we have so many African Americans here in the first place, and the main reason the majority of said African Americans are unproductive and want everything handed to them. We will never appease them, 300 years from now they'll still be like "yo dawg I deserve money fo ma 10 kids cause slavery n sheeit" and it's solely the fault of those who imported and owned slaves.

confederates where normal people but they where infiltrated by the (( freemasons )))

((albert pike ))

>>134593734
They were ready to shoot to kill, which is exactly why no one tried.
I'm kind of happy no one was stupid enough to take the bait. We don't have the brightest bunch around here, admittedly.

>>134594401
You pointing the finger at New Englanders and (((them)))?

>>134593989
My point's that there was no "rapist" until the war, which the South started.

>>134594335
>God's divine mandate
Doesn't exist.
>but in a republic communities (nations) don't have the right to secede from a disconnected executive authority in the face of perceived injustices
Not if they practice even worse injustices like slavery. However, it would be cool if a moral, libertarian state were to form today.

>>134594036
Are you saying southerners shouldn't join the military? If so, I disagree. The southerners participation in the military is one of the things driving our clout in the first place.
For instance, the feds would have a very hard time occupying the south with the current makeup of the military. Too many would side with their homes over the gov.

>>134594646
>yeah goy i have my hand on your ass why they hell did you slap me
gee its like a nation doesn't like another nation's fort in their land
:^)

>>134573372
Since they lost I'd have to say traitors.

>>134594646
>worse injustice like slavery
Slave owners were legally required to house and feed their slaves in some states.
Where is the similar northern legislation that ensures such luxuries to wagers? How do you rationalize how wagers has a similar, and sometimes worse, life than literal slaves?
Educate yourself.
>inb4 no slave protection laws
New Orleans had many such protections, as well as Louisiana. Your ignorance in regards to slavery will not work here.

>>134592994
Pennsylvania, Gettysburg was not the fist battle of the Civil War. To your detriment, Fort Sumter was in Carolina and the first real battle of the war. The North drew first blood as an invading force after attempting to sail in Confederate waters. We're there battles in northern land? Of course. That doesn't change the fact that the North were the aggressors. The vast majority if all battles took place on Southern soil, get fucked yankee cuck.

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>>134573372
Puppets.

>>134591268
>ate] [Auto] 74 new posts
States like Alabama and Georgia wont let it happen, they have plenty of people who would fight for dixie.

>>134594281
>You are a fool if you believe the post-war events weren't already part of the plan before the war even began.
The evil stuff you describe never happened to the states that stayed in the US. If it had, I might have given the South more credit for trying to get out before things got bad. Instead, the slaveowners hoodwinked everyone into leaving to protect their ill-gotten gains, and then everyone got AMERICA'D.

>You are not part of the union
Well I'm a natural-born citizen of the US, not sure what else I could do to be more a part of the Union...

>>134594646
>My point's that there was no "rapist" until the war, which the South started.
By opposing troops statined with in their territory? lol
And even so, no one forced Lincoln to use mere incident as propaganda for his great war
>Divine mandate
tell lincoln that
>Not if they practice even worse injustices like slavery.
You mean like mass murder?

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>>134573372
Friendly reminder that post war carpetbagger governments pulled communist tier land and wealth redistribution schemes from whites to nigger in the post war south.

>>134594646
God's divine mandate does exist. The divine right of kings. Jesus was the king of the jews, not the president of the jews. God granted earthly authority to King George III, and so he was your rightful king. Didn't stop you seceding though when we raised taxes, so why the double standard to the South? At least they weren't in direct violation of Gods will when they disobeyed your presidents authority.

>Not if they practice even worse injustices like slavery
The enslavement of niggers is not an injustice.

>>134594700
By an act of Congress Confederate soldiers are classed as veterans. Disrespecting their memorials with the tacit sanction of Washington D.C. is an outrage.

D.C. has to hit where it hurts, otherwise they will have no incentive to stop these macro-aggressions.

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>>134594700

I think NBF best summarized the quandary of Southerners joining the U.S. military

>>134595166
>ruby ridge
>the rust belt
I would go on but you seem to only be here to argue and not discuss nor debate. You should educate yourself on such things before coming start conflict.
That you believe the oppression was only limited to the south, as opposed to starting in the south and becoming the norm across the nation, reassures me of my conclusion.

>>134575872
>Free staters lose election
>Have judiciary appoint their own government after crying to the feds
alright

>>134573866
evil looking*

Used to think they were traitors but with all the bullshit involving retards defacing Confederate monuments and muh racism, I'm starting to think that maybe they were right about seceding

>>134573372
fools who fought for a traitor country that rebelled against america for the right to own people as property to continue supporting the interests of the rich

>>134573372
>freedom fighters

If crime fighters fight crime and fire fighters fight fire, what do freedom fighter fight?

>>134595359
Yeah, unfortunately Trump is a bit busy with more important things than our statues. Luckily they don't dare mess with the numerous soldier memorials. They know not to kick the nest too much.

Notice they only remove statues in cities, where the left keeps control by gibs.
>>134595378
Subversion tactics. Getting destroyed by the jews taught the south a few valuable lessons.

>>134577022
because we are not backed by (((them)))

>>134575872
What do you mean the "fate?" Not a single slave was to be imported

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>>134595551

>UN flag
>complaining about supporting the interests of the rich

You literally exist so the most powerful countries on Earth can bully the weak under the air of legality.

>>134576681
>wrong on both counts
States can secede its in the constitution.

>>134577549
This, the "dems are the real racists" horseshit always leads into civic nationalist grade conservatism.

>>134595406
>the rust belt
1992
>the rust belt
1980s

So the South was able to predict that cultural marxists would take over the media, education, etc. over a century into the future?

I would have to see examples of serious abuse from the government toward New England farmers shortly after the Civil War, but even then, I would assume that the Civil War (which the South started) would have impacted its behavior by a lot.

>>134575872
Incorrect. The issue was that slave owners didn't want to risk losing their "property" by traveling to nonslave states, which is what started happening towards the end of the pre-war period.
Not saying they should have remained property, but losing such a expensive asset isn't the best feeling in the world.

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>>134595682
>Getting destroyed by the jews taught the south a few valuable lessons.
>you realize one of the South's most celebrated architects whose works grace Arlington and VMI was a Jew right?

>>134596015
>which the South started)
kek

>>134596015
Cultural Marxism didn't exist in America prior to the 60s, and was confined to the west before the late 90s.
The New York jew has existed since America's inception. You would do well learning your enemies, else you might find yourself serving them.

>>134596047
>one good jew excuses the entire Jewish conspiracy which has existed for hundreds of years

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>>134596015

"I can only say that while I have considered the preservation of the constitutional power of the General Government to be the foundation of our peace and safety at home and abroad, I yet believe that the maintenance of the rights and authority reserved to the states and to the people, not only essential to the adjustment and balance of the general system, but the safeguard to the continuance of a free government. I consider it as the chief source of stability to our political system, whereas the consolidation of the states into one vast republic, sure to be aggressive abroad and despotic at home, will be the certain precursor of that ruin which has overwhelmed all those that have preceded it. I need not refer one so well acquainted as you are with American history, to the State papers of Washington and Jefferson, the representatives of the federal and democratic parties, denouncing consolidation and centralization of power, as tending to the subversion of State Governments, and to despotism."

>>134595406
>>134596015
Actually this reminds of Europeans who say that the wrong side won World War II, well the Soviets did fuck up the east, but us Americans gave them the 90s, and its not our fault that they decided to create the EU and turn their capital cities into cucksheds.

>>134596047
>a jew was the "most celebrated" architect in the south
More evidence of the goals of the reconstruction. You don't seem to realize what you are implying, do you?
There are not many Jews in the south.

>>134596245
>Actually this reminds of Europeans who say that the wrong side won World War II, w
Not at all the same thing. The South was not le evl boogieman

>>134578545
Yeah, instead your yankee industrialists wanted all that cheap labor and more, which is why they fought to "free" your based niggers. They didn't migrate to the northern cities looking for watermelon. :^)

>>134596181
So what the Civil War was REALLY about was resisting the Jewish conspiracy? I'll try winning my next debate with that one.

>>134596245
What do you mean you gave us the 90's? Are you exclusively talking about the eastern euros?

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>>134573372
“In time, even death itself might be abolished; who knows but it may be given to us after this life to meet again in the old quarters, to play chess and draughts, to get up soon to answer the morning role call, to fall in at the tap of the drum for drill and dress parade, and again to hastily don our war gear while the monotonous patter of the long roll summons to battle.

Who knows but again the old flags, ragged and torn, snapping in the wind, may face each other and flutter, pursuing and pursued, while the cries of victory fill a summer day? And after the battle, then the slain and wounded will arise, and all will meet together under the two flags, all sound and well, and there will be talking and laughter and cheers, and all will say, Did it not seem real? Was it not as in the old days?”

— Private Barry Benson, Army of Northern Virginia, 1880

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVjD2DaB4bY
3:09 to 4:16

>>134596382
If the South won the Jewish conspiracy in the US would have been severely weakened, and the South to an extent knew this >>134596211
Remember the Jews love big government and centralisation of power

>>134596245
>supply them in taking over said territory, fully knowing how they act and who their leaders are
>not our fault
Keep avoiding accountability like the rest of society. You are doing a great job contributing to the degeneration of our culture.
>inb4 he says America has no culture

>>134596327

He built them because he was a soldier in the Confederate Army and was proud of it.

He has given dozens of accolades over the course of his life, yet when he died, his tombstone simply read "Moses J. Ezekiel Sergeant of Company C Battalion of Cadets of the Virginia Military Institute".

Sounds like he was devoted to his comrades and to the South to the very end to me.

>>134596546
Again, one Jew who probably had nothing to do with the Jewish conspiracy

>>134596382
>the civil war was about resisting a oppressive, more powerful nation
Yes, that's the jist of it.

The industrial North was using its growing economic power to bully the agrarian South and push for policies that helped wealthy Northern businessmen at the expense of the Southern populations, and the South decided they had enough and rebelled against a government that they believed no longer represented them. But the North (unsurprisingly) won the war, and therefore get to paint themselves as noble heroes and the South as evil racists, and if you question that you're an evil racist too.

>>134596488
>>134596657
No doubt (((they))) are nepotistic people who want everything good for their "tribe" and nothing good for the rest of us.

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>>134573372
As someone from the North, I honestly have great respect for them. Perhaps not what the political elite manipulated them into, but definitely the desire to stand up for the constitutional right to be an independent state to a certain extent. A state identity is something I as a Minnesotan crave. Something beyond frozen tundra jokes and "Minnesota Nice". And while as hind sight is 20/20 and I don't agree with the rationale for buying and owning slaves, I do side with the south that a United States that are not a country of United States, we are just like every other country then.
I dunno, as someone who learned about it in history class from the side of the winners, I can still say that stronger states rights is an ideal all of us here in the USA should strive for.

>>134596686
Summed it up pretty well

>>134596989
>Perhaps not what the political elite manipulated them into
And were Jefferson and Madison manipulated into Kentucky/Virginia secession?

>>134596443
Interesting, 1913, the Federal Reserve was founded, World War One was already planned with the full intention of involving the United States. So, how to dupe Southerners into fighting that war? A fake reconciliation.

>>134596642

Fair enough.

In my experience, the problems with any ethnic group tends to stem from the actions of the few on top rather than the average person on the street (who tends to be on the receiving end of the backlash to the elite's actions).

TL;DR George Soros and his Open Society is the problem, but the Jewish couple down the street who own a fruit market aren't.

>>134573372
>fighting for freedom
whoever fight for freedom is acuck

>>134578173
>reddit spacing
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>>134597482
The Jews fundamentally deny Christ their lord so to me, they are the problem.

Rednecks don't need acceptance though.
We enjoy more freedom than anybody and we own some of the most fertile land on the continent.

Outsiders just go back to mocking southern accents and shit. Come try to find us when you get mad.

>>134596831
Their actions imply that, yes. Thanks for following along the conversation.

>>134596528
Like I said, the Soviets fucked up the east, including their own countries. At least the Poles and Czechs still exist today, Hitler had other ideas.

>>134596387
When I lived in Europe in the 90s, no communism or nazism, countries had their own borders and currencies, it was very nice, too bad they wanted something different.

>>134596354
It's the same kind of argument though, America late 19th century was very different from today, that was the America that people were fighting for, not an America of slutwalks.

>>134596211
Anti-slavery forces got enough influence in the government and ended slavery, everything else is hair-splitting and empty posturing.

>>134579652
>kekistani
How in the fuck are you against guns you neo-liberal /leftypol/ faggot?
Oh wait, I just answered my own question, nvm.

>>134597936
>Thanks for following along the conversation.
I've had only two shots of vodka so far :-)

>>134596546
If true, good to hear. This perhaps explains why they aren't very outspoken about being jewish.

>>134573372
One word: Democrats.
>>134574684
Hahahaha

>>134596181
Cultural Marxism came to America in 1933 when the Frankfurt School of communists fled the Third Reich. They invented critical theory where you mendaciously criticize social values to destruction just because they're there. Their long march through the institutions began to bear fruit in the sixties and has finally reached maturity with our SJWs.

They hate all Americans including themselves.

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>>134597459
It was the 50th Anniversary of the Civil War held in 1913 at Gettysburg and the 75th Anniversary in 1938. Some of the last Civil War Vets

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>>134573372

Fucking LOSERS

>>134598222
My Kung-Fu is strongest.

>>134592673
That is a huge generalization.

>>134597967
>invade the other half of the country and set up puppet governments
>"guys we have enough states to ratify an amendment!!"

lol, typical jew tricks. The United States that the founders made died the day it had to be held together through force.

>>134598388
Read Albion's Seed

>>134573372
Traitorous faggots.

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>>134581085
>3% tax
Is that what they're telling you guys across the pond was all your country did?
Yes, because 3% tax was all we were upset over.

They should have won the civil war.

>>134597482
I believe that a Jewish sport is to bore their fellow tribesmen to death with stories of how their put one over on a goy.

>>134598388
True...my ancestors came from a part of Texas called Germania.

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>>134598441
Appalachia was heavily Ulster Scottish, but lowland South had more English. There were also pockets of Germans here and there in the south.

>>134598578

Midland County?

>>134598578
My ancestors came from a region in South Carolina that had the word "Dutch"(as in Deutsch) in the name.

>>134577022
Yeah it totally isn't because leftists are always supported by huge banks and rich groups/families such as rothschild and what not.

>>134597482
>rather than the average person on the street

Read The Other Side of Deception.

>>134598741
That's the one. In the Civil War, the elder family men rode for the South. and the younger the North. Most died.
Father and son type shit.

>>134598811

That was a actually a fairly common misconception in the 19th Century. Germans were mistakenly called Dutch because "Deutschland".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennsylvania_Dutch

>>134599254
It wasn't a misconception at the time because Dutch was a valid word for German

>>134599254
But my German ancestors were 18th century settlers, not 19th century plebiscite immigrants. My blood was 100% American in 1783.

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>>134573372
Confederate "General" Julius Howell Recalls the 1860s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHDfC-z9YaE

>be me Canadian born
>move to South Georgia at 5
> hate niggers love freedom
>find out my ancestors are from Germany and Finland
>have southern accent but no sense of belonging

Does anyone have any good national socialist literature they can link?

I still dunno how to feel about all that shit...aside from all the shit I talk...I am kind of proud of BOTH.
Surely we have matured enough as a people to see that possibility.
Like most things in history it was manipulated by the bad Jews, and others like them to maximize their profits.
There has always been, and always be a part of humanity that preys on war/division to profit most from it.
The vultures. IF you kill them, more will take their place.
The best defense though is the knowledge that they're always circling over our heads.

>>134599446

Well I imagine people from the Netherlands might take offense.

>>134600107
Probably not because what they call themselves would translate to Netherlanders and Netherlandic.

>>134579026
who is that semen-demon?