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>there is no Jewish state, only an Israeli one
>there is no international Zionism, as it is a national ideology
>any action taken by diaspora Jews in the name of Israel is illegitimate, as we are different peoples
>any action taken in the name of Judaism is irrelevant, as we are Israelis before we are Jews
>the only method on which you can objectively judge Israel is on the actions that the state itself performs and the reaction of Israeli citizens to it
>Israelis who live abroad are as illegitimate as natural born diaspora
Stop memeing and accept reality
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>>134571711
Is it safe to go to Israel alone? I'd love to visit sometime.
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>>134572853
Pretty much, just be careful of Arabs and niggers as you would do in any other place. Tel Aviv and Jerusalem are especially safe. Keep in mind that it currently looks like a new intifada is developing at the moment, so try and stay in the news loop if you're visiting soon.
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>>134571711
That's right, the Jews are under the curse of God and murdered Jesus. Israel is a fraud! The Bible is extremely clear.
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>>134571711
Do people realize that the North of Israel looks like pic related?
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here's more
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>>134573561
The "Jews" aren't the biblical Jews. Those "Chosen People" from the old testament followed Jesus Christ to Rome in the new testament and are what we know as Christians.

Ethnic "Jews" today are Pharisees of the bible.
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>>134571711
So why can a Jew born abroad get Israeli citizenship?
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>>134573598
>>134573647
looks comfy, would invade Palestine over.
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>>134571711
#notallmuslims
Sorry, wrong one.
#notalljews
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>there is no international Zionism, as it is a national ideology

Some of our politicians are kikes, mind taking them back to their promised land then?
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What happens here?
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>>134573647
>>134573598
Looks hot and humid. I can feel the gnats hitting my face.

5/10 for landscapes. Israel seems like an odd kind of country.
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>>134573791
I know, the Bible clearly calls them the Synagogue of Satan. "Jews" in the Bible were originally the people in Judah (later called Judea in Jesus' time). Jesus came there but they received him not. Instead they murdered him, and as a curse God destroyed the city and their temple and scattered them across all nations.
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>>134573408
>>134573979
It looks stunning here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoizSL-TEJQ
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>>134571711
Never forget the USS Liberty
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>>134574233
Ive experienced nightlife in 3 different countries, couldnt imagine what israel might be like. May have to make a visit in the future
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>>134571711
1. Doubtful
2. Jews aside, Christians are often pro-zionist
3 / 4 / 6: Slightly fair, but close to no true scots
5. Sure... and its usually pretty shitty
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>>134573598
>>134573647
here's more
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>>134574506
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>>134574152
>>134574492

>2. Jews aside, Christians are often pro-zionist

Check out "Marching to Zion"
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>>134573801
Because we are an ethno-religious(due to the blurry lines regarding Jewish ethnicity) thus we give ethnic Jews the option of joining our state. However if they do not live here they are no true citizens, but are just using our nation as a potential bunker in case of an anudda shoah. Furthermore they can never be truly Israeli to the degree that the natural born children can, they will be a first generation that needs to prove itself as a good citizen first and foremost.
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>>134573966
Your job, our job is to accept them.
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>>134571711
Question: Why do so many people act like Palestine is a nation, or ever was in the entire history of ever?
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>>134571711
The state of Israel needs to be dissolved immediately. They are a greater threat to the United States than any other country in the Middle East. Any American citizen who willing seeks out or accepts an israeli citizenship should be charged with treason.

Justice for the USS Liberty when?
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>>134574815
Are Israelis friendly? /pols/ obsession with Jews has only made me more fascinated with Israel.
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>>134575197
Ew, so you support the paki Palestinians?
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>>134575236
Usually yes, especially in Tel Aviv. But one again, one should always be careful around obvious non whites.
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>>134574815
Then don't claim there is no international zionism, just because you are not part of it doesn't mean it doesn't exist
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>>134574815
heard you guys are buddy buddy witht he pajeets now, i thought we were friends goys. In all seriousness tho, remove kebab from morocco to pakistan and ill be happy

t. Giovanni
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>>134575557
My argument is not that the practice does not exist but that it is both not Zionist by definition and is not a legitimate representation of Israeli national goals. That was the point about separation between citizens, citizens who live abroad and pure diaspora. The last two are leeches on your nation and on our concept of a nation.
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>>134575423
I am apathetic to the plight of the Palestinians, I have no real dog in that fight. My issue is strictly with the current state of Israel.
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>>134576028
Israel or Israelis are not a threat to you as dual citizenships and anti white diaspora is, don't kid yourself. No threat is greater than treachery.
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>>134575435
If I was to visit would you recommend Jerusalem more than Tel Aviv? I might just take my camera along and have a few beers in the evening.
>Not into all that modern clubbing nonsense.
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>>134576384
Are Muslims always chimping out there?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TD4bOk2rdo
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>>134576516
Tel Aviv is more of a club scene, with some nicer bars and a cute underground scene down in the south. I personally hate Jerusalem because it's full of religious Jews, but maybe you've made peace with the fact that you'll going to have them around you.
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you fucks keep calling it a jewish and democratic state and insisting on the intrinsic jewish nature of your country, discriminating against non-jews, and all while encouraging liberalism abroad
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>>134573647
and more
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Why do you pay nigger Jews to leave, then?
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>>134574506
looks like UK
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>>134577905
Israel and the Middle East iare going to be fucked by global warming.

You need to get some inspiration from the Dutch to prevent the floods
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>>134575197
Fuck off. Go dance on Trumans grave, he made it happen.
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HUR DUR OBLIGITORY JEW INSULT!
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>>134578452
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>>134579207
Cool
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>>134571711
Lol I don't believe anything jews say
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I cannot wait for non-Jews to become a majority in Israel. I can only imagine how American liberals will justify the imposition of religious apartheid in Israel in order to preserve the Jewishness of Israel.
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>>134579334
You have zero indication on whether I'm a Jew,a Christian or a Muslim.
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>>134579571
I have all the indication I need, Goldflash
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>>134573408
Is the West Bank safe for western tourists?
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>>134579705
A Christian btw. You're more of a Jew than me mr. Mutilated Penis.
>>134579822
I wouldn't.
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>>134580029
Do you attend the gay pride events in Tel Aviv?
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>>134579264
Let me guess you're one of these retards believing global warming is false.


Bye bye "Chosen people"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/an-epic-middle-east-heat-wave-could-be-global-warmings-hellish-curtain-raiser/2016/08/09/c8c717d4-5992-11e6-8b48-0cb344221131_story.html?utm_term=.8d1eda6831ca
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>>134580029
But you're a jew so maybe that's why they're resentful

What would happen? Kidnapping? Robbery? Murder?
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>>134580218

https://archive.is/bD0Zc
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>>134571711
>>there is no Jewish state, only an Israeli one
Wrong. Yours is a Jewish one. Jews from all over the world are allowed to and encouraged to move over. Non Jews aren't allowed this privilege.
>there is no international Zionism, as it is a national ideology
Of course there is. The biggest sponsors/funders and establishers of pro Zionist/Israel lobbies are international Jews.
>any action taken by diaspora Jews in the name of Israel is illegitimate, as we are different peoples
Somewhat true, but only when it doesn't suit your needs. If it does suit your needs, you're always ok with it.
>any action taken in the name of Judaism is irrelevant, as we are Israelis before we are Jews
Not entirely true, see the first point.
>the only method on which you can objectively judge Israel is on the actions that the state itself performs and the reaction of Israeli citizens to it
True.
>Israelis who live abroad are as illegitimate as natural born diaspora
Which is why most young Israelis and diaspora prefer living abroad in their youth and returning when they're older. Your country is shit, it's expensive and even the most hardened Zionists are fed up with religious law engineering on their daily lives. Namely public transport.
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>>134580029
>Zionism doesn't exist!
>Okay, it does but its not Israel's fault, its your problem!
>shills for israel
>but really, it doesn't help us jews, just us israelis!
>can't hide muzzie hatred.

back to your hole, reptile
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>>134580184
Nope, I really don't support the whole thing.
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>>134580254
Thanks Norwegian autist, you really are one of the hero of this Origami en terre de glaise de Provence website
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Too much lies. I can't handle anymore lel
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>>134580236
I do not look like a Jew nor do I wear any religious indicators. It could be a terrorist stabbing or shooting or whatever, they are pretty indiscriminate in the heat of the moment, that's your main problem. Any non Muslim is in danger just like in your European Muslim ghettos.
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>>134571711
NICE TRY SCHLOMO

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>134580462
>>134580973
OP is the prime example of JIDF. Trying to pander to some "alt-lite" group here, as if he's got their backs while pretending to hate on his own. Very sad that this is what Shlomo's life has gotten to.
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>>134581106
i know, its so obvious.

you just take exactly the opposite of what they say, you can literally never trust a jew
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>>134571711
>>there is no international Zionism, as it is a national ideology


HAHAHA
So very tricky

>Meir David Kahane was an American-Israeli Orthodox rabbi, ultra-nationalist politician, teacher, and writer, whose work became either the direct or indirect foundation of most modern Jewish militant and far right-wing political groups.

Do you know that google exists?
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>>134581464
>there is no international Zionism, as it is a national ideology


what a crock of shit.

Jews are loyal to israel as a diaspora, jews take upon themselves zionism, jews move out into the world with their sense of zionism, national ideology then becomes international

just like them to contradict themselves in the same sentence.
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>>134571711
I think this guy was the second prime minister of Israel?

Am I right?
Would make you wrong if I am right wouldn't it?
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>>134573970
BOG controlled.
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WHERE HAS HE GONE!
WHERE HAS THE JEW WHO CLAIMS HE IS A GOYIM GONE!

WHY HAS HE LEFT ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>134581845
I was going to say the same thing

>"I've been found out!"
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>>134581742
Oh I was wrong, this was not the second Zionist prime minister of Israel it was the fifth.

This was the second.

Dont worry though, Israel is not a Jewish Zionist state.
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>>134571711
Illegal for jews to marry goyim in Israel; nice try stienberg.
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There are too many who are awake to the Jewish usury and degeneracy for you to stop us again. This time there really will be a Holocaust.
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>>134574233
Israel is incredible. Definitely go if you have the chance.
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You know he is right about one thing.
Christian Zionists are scum.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RY83mAr5uA
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>>134582384
Are you one of those useful idiots that Bibi thinks is scum?
>>134582420
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Reminder to never trust Jews no matter how friendly they seem.
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>>134580439
No, ours is an ethnic one, convert have a very hard time getting a citizenship unless they get genetically involved (marriage or reproduction). While we have some religious legislation due to our many orthodox Jews, our country is foremost a nation for Jews rather than a Jewish one. When I say Jewish I hope you understand that I mean the religious aspect of our identity.
International Zionism is an oxymoron. I can call myself a Dixie, a Nazi or a Jihadist, but if my actions do not accurately AND honestly corresponds with the ideology I'm a fake, probably using the title for my own benefit - which is exactly what international Zionists are.
>>134581742
See how he says bi national and not bi religious? That's because Israel is not a Jewish nation, its a nation for ethnic Jews.
>>134581845
So? Idgaf about shit about what Sharon thinks. And kahane was a citizen who moved here and died here. Also you still did not demonstrate how international Jews are the legitimate representatives of my national ideology.
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>>134571711

I'm a diaspora Jew and I like Israel but I don't consider myself to be a Zionist.
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>>134571711
Diaspora jews are such fucking garbage
Take em back, please
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>>134571711
why is every fucking building in israel sand colored? do they not have paint there?
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>>134582703
Send them.
>>134581106
>>134582524
I am absolutely honest and I do support your struggle as well no matter how many times you call me a liar.
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>>134582531
He is arguing against the occupation of Gaza and West bank because he does not want it to be a bi national state.

Literally every Israeli leader wants Israel to be a Jewish state and the majority of people want it that way to.

Which is why Albert Einstein turned down the position of Prime minister to Israel.
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>>134582908
>I do support your struggle
What struggle? White nationalism?
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>>134571711
Ye right get fucked
>purge the Palestinians
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>>134582519
I'm Jewish.
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>>134583009
The point is that we are not a Jewish religious state, which is why I argue that the actions of religious Jews do not represent our state automatically. I do not in any way reject the notion of us being an ethno state that is interested in a homogenous society.
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>>134582908
>I am absolutely honest

We have a lot of palestinians in Europe. Who to blame?
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>>134583534
Then why could I, a jew from America, emigrate to Israel and become a citizen if Israel isn't a Jewish state?
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>>134583107
Yes.
>>134583576
European liberal corruption, I'm gonna also blame whatever ideology originally determined that exterminating your enemies is immoral. I'm assuming that you're pointing at diaspora Jews, and yes a a large portion of those responsible really were diaspora Jews.
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>>134583576

Palestinians aren't even a problem in Europe I'd be more worried about Pakis and Dindus and all the other subhumans you retards are letting in.
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>>134571711
>>there is no Jewish state, only an Israeli one
>>there is no international Zionism, as it is a national ideology
do you know what theodore hertzl, the founder of zionism, thought about his ideology?
he said it's jewish supremacism
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>>134583885
You're the only one. Even the most hardened rightwing/Zionist Israelis aren't race-based in their support. Even Meir Kahane was against white nationalism. You're trying to hard. How can I trust a guy that will take in every Jew of every race/ethnicity and then trust him to have my best interest when it comes to my country's white nationalism? Sorry Shlomo, no one is trusting you.
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>we are Israelis before we are Jews
Yes i am Australian before i am white.
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>>134583885
>I'm gonna also blame whatever ideology originally determined that exterminating your enemies is immoral.

So the national socialist europe would be the best thing.
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>>134583720
Bloodline as opposed to religion. If you lack the blood but have the religion you'll have a much harder time than if the opposite was true.
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>>134571711
how do I fuck an ultra orthodox chic?
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>>134583950
No contradiction. It is an ethno state, which implies supremacy, but it's not a religious one, and hertzl did not believe that it should be.
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>>134585082
op says
>>there is no Jewish state, only an Israeli one
hertzl says
>zionism is jewish supremacism
op says
>It is an ethno state
"no contradiction"

just how many levels of mental gymnastics are you on?
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>>134584543
I'm not suicidal. But generally I don't see how ethno fascist states are bad for anyone who is not a minority.
>>134584144
Eh, we live in a globalized world and thanks to the internet when a racial awakening will happen it'll happen everywhere at once. Our old corrupt (and mostly not natural born as wears 70 to) leaders say absolutely nothing about the future of our far right.
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>>134585528
We're 70 yo*
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>>134585528
damn jew, is your DEX skill 100?
because you dodged my post
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>>134585751
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>>134571711
Most Jews are NOT of original Israelite bloodline. You are closer related to Arabs than you are original Israelites.

So there in Israel, you have Imposters, claiming rites to stolen land.
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>>134585390
An ethno state does not imply any connection to Judaism, nor does Jewish supremacy. We are a nation of Israelis who are of the same bloodlines and are slowly mixing into what will perhaps be a new ethnic group.
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Yourself Gas >>134571711

>there is no Jewish state, only an Israeli one

Occupied Territories of Palestine

>there is no international Zionism, as it is a national ideology

As a jew, you can perpetrate crimes outside IsRaHELL then escape in IsRaHELL. This makes every jew an international threat.

>any action taken by diaspora Jews in the name of Israel is illegitimate, as we are different peoples

That's an extremist view of some talmud-bashing jew rabbi who should be gassed for a better future, Shlomo.

>any action taken in the name of Judaism is irrelevant, as we are Israelis before we are Jews

That's a millenial neokike idea. Enjoy your jobless jewish life, fag

>the only method on which you can objectively judge Israel is on the actions that the state itself performs and the reaction of Israeli citizens to it

It's a criminal puppet state creted by the Rothchilds. Gas yourself obnxious kike

>Israelis who live abroad are as illegitimate as natural born diaspora

There are so many double citizens !! Your phrase will backstab at (((You))),

jew
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>>134586190
>>134586190

>occupied Palestine
>IsRaHELL
>Shlomo
>fag
>criminal puppet state
>(((You)))

Sometimes it's good to remember what it was like to be a 13 year old on the Internet. Those were truly halcyon days.
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>>134571711
>there is no Jewish state, only an Israeli one
WRONG

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Autonomous_Oblast
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>>134575423
>says ew like effeminate spoiled brat
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>>134573598
>>134573647
Lol SENPAI that looks like my backyard. Nothing to be proud of
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>>134572853

The irony of reality is that Israel is one of the safest countries on earth, if not the safest.
Just don't get any funny ideas like going to the west bank, our responsibility should end there but we occasionally have to bust your asses out of there when shitskins try to rape you.
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>>134573408

Typical shitskins running their basic typical "allah this cannot happen!" propaganda, every fucking holy place on earth have fucking metal detectors Their leaders just have to entice the situation bitching about them.

If you have nothing to fucking hide, why bitch about metal detectors ? fucking shitskins. They are like snakes.
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>>134571711
I agree.

It's impossible that all Jews are in on the plan of "The Jews".
But that doesn't change the fact that there are Jews (like soros, de Rothschild et al) that are actively attacking the west.
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>>134588365
They all are in the plan
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>>134579822

Why would you want to go there ? There are arab settlements and jewish settlements there, the reason there are also jewish settlements there is because without them, the shitskins would flock the boarders, and that means they could more easily penetrate.

most of the shitskins who are being raised as terrorists are coming from settlements in the west bank, the only reason you only hear about the ones who are from within Israel is because we are successful at preventing the fucking horde from crossing if you know what i mean.

Nothing to see there anyway.
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>>134588415

I'm not...
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>>134571711
>>739736836
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>>134571711
>>739736836
.
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Nice bait

please fuck off kike.
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>>134571711
None of these are objective. All of your assertions are basically "yeah, well, I'm not like that".
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>>134580439
>>>there is no Jewish state, only an Israeli one
>Wrong. Yours is a Jewish one. Jews from all over the world are allowed to and encouraged to move over. Non Jews aren't allowed this privilege

Country was funded for Jewish people, that was the plan.
Arabs that already had land here got to keep it to this day.
Then gypsie arabs from all over came flocking over because this was a sweet deal back than, these gypsie scums are what you call "Palestinians", the shitskins no other country wants. gypsies basically, middle eastern version.

Why should non Jews be allowed the privilege to begin with ? Can I live anywhere i choose to ?
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>>134571711
Why do Semites hate plants so much? All their cities look sterile and dead. Where's the palm trees swaying on the beach?
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>>134572853
Yes goyim very safe. By any chance, are you an organ donor?
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>>134571711
>nu/pol/ won't sage this thread
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>>134571711
>>134571711
>>134571711
>>134571711

Yeah but Israel is a shithole.

Sorry but no, the Russians, Arabs and Niggers need to fucking go and I am serious. We've recognized their existence and this was our problem. Also stop giving citizenships to people claiming to be Jewish. I DONT FUCKING CARE ABOUT JUDAISM OR ORTHOKYKES, I WANT FUCKING ISRAEL FOR ISRAELIS ONLY REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I want to believe we'll have a civil war to wipe them out. I want to believe, but it's fading away. Israel is going to disappear in the next 20 years, and not because of wars, but because we'll be replaced by shitskins.

>>134590439
Your mom is a nu/pol/ you fucking potato nigger. We're hated by both leftists and right wingers.
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>>134571711
Israel looks like a bit of a shithole actually. Even the countryside looks scrubby.
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ALL THIS MONEY SLIPPING AWAY FROM US SO THAT ARABS, AFRICANS AND RUSSIANS CAN LIVE HERE

FUCKING NUKE ISRAEL I WANT TO DIE WITH ISRAEL BEFORE IT IS GONE
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There is a Jewish state, it is in Russia.
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>>134590893
better than australia, now go lose another war to emus you fucking failure
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>Be a Pharisee.
>Realize I fucked up and murdered God.
>Create secret society built on destroying everything God has created.
>ZOG
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>>134588701
I would love to visit Bethlehem, Hebron, Nablus and Ramallah in order to get a fully scoped view of the country
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>>134571711
Burn in hell kike, your time is getting close.

>>134565406
>>134565406
>>134565406
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>>134590724
>>134590934
Cry more
t. Boris
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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